I ran this set up (I couldn't see in the video if it was me driving one of the machines here), we were making a long haul, about 2 miles if I recall off hand. This set up is very good for long hauls and simple dumping. It WAY out performs running a single unit. As for the push loading, we could get far more earth into the units in less time. The machine was back on the road in almost the same amount of time as loading one unit with out the push. As for the tractor pushing, we tried a D6 and D7, they couldn't keep up...lol. Adding the push made the loading easier, faster, larger loads and more consistent filling for the operators. Maxed out, we could make loads that were taller than the tractors. We measured some of the bigger loads, but I don't recall the numbers any longer. Good times. :)
They are hauling this dirt over 2 miles. Having one power unit hauling the dirt means one less engine burning fuel, one less machine to buy or rent, and so one. On short haul applications, the train concept is not so effective. And the tractor pushing is a small, old tractor, that could not pull a scraper.
AgrartechnikHD Thank you for the kind words! These large scrapers can fit inside a sea container to reach German ground for any earth moving projects you are aware of.
The only problem is that capacity (yardage) does not indicate the amount of weight transfered onto the tractor. The problem is that a 18 yard scaper can and does (depending on the make) put more weight on the rear axle of a tractor then a K-Tec 1233. Its all about the weight transfer (scraper design), hitch point, and properly balancing the tractor.
@zbeck68 quite simple: in pushloading they apply the lugging force of two Steigers on to one cutting edge. If they each pulled a pan, they would have to load with half the drawbar pull...
@Gavin84w @Gavin84w I've heard the whole idea behind this type of setup is to save on money...real scrapers are a lot more versatile, but also drink up a lot of money in fuel and operating costs. If conditions are good I can see this working, but I can name at least 2 dozen things a scraper can do that could never be done with these things (I love scrapers).
I ran this set up (I couldn't see in the video if it was me driving one of the machines here), we were making a long haul, about 2 miles if I recall off hand. This set up is very good for long hauls and simple dumping. It WAY out performs running a single unit. As for the push loading, we could get far more earth into the units in less time. The machine was back on the road in almost the same amount of time as loading one unit with out the push. As for the tractor pushing, we tried a D6 and D7, they couldn't keep up...lol. Adding the push made the loading easier, faster, larger loads and more consistent filling for the operators. Maxed out, we could make loads that were taller than the tractors. We measured some of the bigger loads, but I don't recall the numbers any longer. Good times. :)
Люблю работу скрепериста, работал на разных скреперах был молодой и 😅 ,был СССР. Сейчас мне 60л и россия 😢😢😢.
This is on the Red River Flood Way project close to Winnipeg Manitoba.
They are hauling this dirt over 2 miles. Having one power unit hauling the dirt means one less engine burning fuel, one less machine to buy or rent, and so one. On short haul applications, the train concept is not so effective. And the tractor pushing is a small, old tractor, that could not pull a scraper.
Nice!! That's a new way to use a 9380
Put some rippers on back of the B tractor. And some Hungry boards. Go hard. XD
In Germany, we are dreaming of such a machines ;-) Nice Video!
AgrartechnikHD Thank you for the kind words! These large scrapers can fit inside a sea container to reach German ground for any earth moving projects you are aware of.
The only problem is that capacity (yardage) does not indicate the amount of weight transfered onto the tractor. The problem is that a 18 yard scaper can and does (depending on the make) put more weight on the rear axle of a tractor then a K-Tec 1233. Its all about the weight transfer (scraper design), hitch point, and properly balancing the tractor.
very good run fully loaded and very fast ,good use of the machinery..
Your pretty lucky to get dry gumbo like that around here, I'd rather see a D9 or D10 pulling scrapers they don't need a push.
@zbeck68 quite simple: in pushloading they apply the lugging force of two Steigers on to one cutting edge. If they each pulled a pan, they would have to load with half the drawbar pull...
Ive never seen pushcatting like that before great video
Strange to watch a tractor for a push cat. Thanks for the vid.
thanks. when will i see you and your equipment working via video?
No. It is Speciality Flood in Winnipeg MB.
@Gavin84w @Gavin84w I've heard the whole idea behind this type of setup is to save on money...real scrapers are a lot more versatile, but also drink up a lot of money in fuel and operating costs. If conditions are good I can see this working, but I can name at least 2 dozen things a scraper can do that could never be done with these things (I love scrapers).
are that strawbales in the background?
Put some side walls on those scrapers.. what a waste
is this F&K excavating? from wisconsin?
l still buy a26yard miskins and move more dirt that?
And move half the yards.
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Thanks!
awesome tho.!
This is true :-)
Manitoba, Canada
why wouldnt you just hook up the 2nd mover to the 2nd tractor?
needs more wind !
@unclestinkyfinger In reality the whole thing is strange, just a cop out for real scrapers