Which filter wins, in your opinion? I have one not made by Able (it’s by Barista Warrior and it’s their gold titanium one) and I’m going to do a shootout between it and the Chemex filter when I get some more beans this week.
Great video, as a coffee purist, love your attention to the detail, yet keeping it light. I didn't know that Hario had a combination scale + timer. P.S. I found you when I was googling what is the best filter to use with my new chemex
@@orangecactuscoffee I am going to lab test the difference in taste between the metal filter it came with and the #4 I already have and was using on a V60 pour over. On the metal filter I like the idea of letting the oil through but the cleaning is a hassle, so I will try a split test tomorrow, I have already exceeded my caffeine intake so I'll do it manãna
Great vid, the whole pour over dripper is overrated (slow pour from my cromagnon pot is comparable) ... I use my chemex for coffee as well as filtering my cider as well ... one secret I found is when using my 10 cup chem-ex ( means chemical extraction) on larger pour overs I add a sprinkle of ground during the last two slow pours and I swear it produces a salty note to the brew ... try it ... works great for 6 Plus cup brews ... Something magical happens when the brew is sitting and the fresh sprinkle of grounds (5grams?) reacts with the co2 gas’s during second brew gas fermentation. The closest to this method is doing a cold brew for me which I always filter through some chemex filters after 18-24 hours of brewing.
Thank you for the tip! We’ll have to give that a try sometime. We also like to filter our cold brew. Usually do it with V60 papers but I bet the Chemex paper produce a super clean cup.
Orange Cactus Coffee The Best filters oddly for most body have been the kalita. I have a feeling the v60 is a lot of hype. The Paper does more than any of the brew type vessels. I dare you to try every paper in the chemex and you will find ... the paper makes the difference more so than anything else. Thanks for the vids ... keep up the great work. I really like your down to earth reviews ... very entertaining.
Thanks for the video. A suggestion if you don't mind: I think you should start your Able Cone pour (after bloom) by using the same pouring process you used to bloom the coffee, by pouring small concentric circles, then switch to a center pour. That would ensure those grounds floating towards the top were wetted again and then the slow non-agitating pour in the center allows the process to work. This would keep the grounds on the water's surface from just floating up there practically dry. Personally, I don't care for the metal cone, I prefer the paper filter, so I won't be testing my theory anytime soon.
Hi Rich, thanks for the suggestion. We completely agree with you, that would ensure better saturation and increase extraction. We wanted to give the "Able" method a try as prescribed just to see what kind of cup it would produce.
Thx for the video. Reference the grinds that stick to the side of the paper filter…. I like to grab the chemex halfway between the main pours and lightly swirl the water that’s still brewing, and the swirl catches the grinds that are stuck to the side, resulting in a level bed of grinds for the next pour. I don’t know if doing this actually affects the taste of the final cup, but it prevents me from needing to pour water directly on the filter.
Guys, I appreciate knowing that your coffee is hot, but naming a video paper vs steel filters, then using two completely different brews and then not saying a word about the differences in results? C'mon.
3-3:20 min brew time is what I usually get with the paper filter for 350g of water in the 6-10 cup Chemex(the 3 cup over extracts because the coffee bed is in much thicker layer with less surface area) and a slightly finer grind than for french press. French press not being as coarse as sea salt more like kosher salt maybe slightly coarser. To get into that range with the Able Kone I need to take the grind down to medium like what I use for the Kalita Wave. You grinds here looks like way too coarse plus fairly low ratio of coffee to water so this cup must be under extracted.
Thanks for the suggestion, Stefan! We try to keep the target time about the same no matter how much we are brewing. To prevent over extraction and the brew from running long, we went coarser on the grind. Had we gone finer, the brew time would have been closer to 4 minutes or possibly over. Are you suggesting that would be better when using the Able Kone?
Zoraida Dobard we used the 6 cup version, which holds 30 ounces or 6-5 ounce cups. Chemex also makes a smaller three cup as well as larger ones, all the way up to 13 cups.
Sweet! If you go with the paper filters, be sure to only use the white ones. If you want to try the brown, just make sure you thoroughly rinse them to get rid of the heavy cardboard taste. Happy brewing!
@@orangecactuscoffee Good call, I ended up buying my Chemex at a local store, and the only filters they carried we're the brown type. But they seem to be fine with a thorough rinsing as you pointed out. I'm definitely hooked though! Fun to make and the quality is exactly what I've been looking for! 👍 Thanks again for the help!
Orange Cactus Coffee I’ve had 4 uses with the Osaka filter off amazon. It works really well and am surprised how fast it filters. It’s really quick. It even comes with a small packet of cleaner. Osaka is a definite contender at the price point vs Able Kone.
Paper is faster stainless takes all day...depend on what you need out of your chemex, each day has it's own choices, stainless takes 25-30mins to get 2 cups paper takes 5mins
What sort of stainless do you use? I’ve been using the Osaka stainless double cone for about a year and I find that as long as I use the spray setting on my faucet to rinse it on both sides, and grind the beanies medium coarse, it takes maybe 4 minutes tops. I found it taking forever initially but then I adjusted to a coarser grind and clean it once a day and it’s been consistent for 10 months.
Let me be the hater: 1. Two additional arms holding the kettle while you rest your "spare" arm on the table, hilarious. 2. To get rid of the sediments get an additional chemex and paper filters and pour your coffee through the filter into the second chemex. 3. The obvious: the coffee is so cloudy, but I guess that's preferences. 4. BREW VESSEL?!
Someone can explain me, why the chemex type coffee makers are so expensive? 🤓☝️ Stainless steel filter cost 20$, it is non sense 🤭☺️but i still bought it to my friend as a gift, and the flavour was very good and soft ☝️
Very good review, thanks, enjoyed it. You absolutely put crown on top of it with 14:05 🤣🤣🤣
🫡Thank you!!! 😂
"Pre-wetting: always a good thing." True words of wisdom.
Everything we know we learned from smarter people.
Why does your place look exactly like Walter White’s house from Breaking Bad?
Holy shit I just realised that
It does look like an upgraded version
everyone uses that hideous backsplash....
It really was terrible the whole time we lived there. Do not miss it at all.
The Chemex is my go to daily driver every morning!! Personal favorite and always gets a reaction from people!
It’s beautiful!! Do you have a daily driver coffee origin as well?
LOL. You guys are both entertaining and informative. Thanks for that!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for your kind words.
Didn't think I'd stick around for the whole 15 minutes. Great video, thank you! And the Moses reference was on point! 😂
Thank you!! 😂
Which filter wins, in your opinion? I have one not made by Able (it’s by Barista Warrior and it’s their gold titanium one) and I’m going to do a shootout between it and the Chemex filter when I get some more beans this week.
Warren Lain we prefer the taste the paper filter produces. Cleaner, brighter cup, what the Chemex is best known for. Interested to hear your opinion.
Why not use hario paper filters with the steel cone ? Seems to flow better at a medium fine.
So you are not a sedimental guy, I get it
Can we reuse the paper filters by cleaning and drying them? My mother says it is a waste of paper and recommended that.
No
I’d also recommend not reusing. It might be a waster of paper… but I don’t reuse toilet paper, either. 😳
@@orangecactuscoffee well you don't drink poop but do drink coffee so...
I loved the outtakes at the beginning
Thank you!
Great video, as a coffee purist, love your attention to the detail, yet keeping it light. I didn't know that Hario had a combination scale + timer. P.S. I found you when I was googling what is the best filter to use with my new chemex
Thanks Matt! Appreciate your feedback. What filter did you decide to go with?
@@orangecactuscoffee I am going to lab test the difference in taste between the metal filter it came with and the #4 I already have and was using on a V60 pour over. On the metal filter I like the idea of letting the oil through but the cleaning is a hassle, so I will try a split test tomorrow, I have already exceeded my caffeine intake so I'll do it manãna
Can you use a paper and metal at the same time
You could, but I think choosing one or the other is probably best.
Great vid, the whole pour over dripper is overrated (slow pour from my cromagnon pot is comparable) ... I use my chemex for coffee as well as filtering my cider as well ... one secret I found is when using my 10 cup chem-ex ( means chemical extraction) on larger pour overs I add a sprinkle of ground during the last two slow pours and I swear it produces a salty note to the brew ... try it ... works great for 6 Plus cup brews ... Something magical happens when the brew is sitting and the fresh sprinkle of grounds (5grams?) reacts with the co2 gas’s during second brew gas fermentation. The closest to this method is doing a cold brew for me which I always filter through some chemex filters after 18-24 hours of brewing.
Thank you for the tip! We’ll have to give that a try sometime.
We also like to filter our cold brew. Usually do it with V60 papers but I bet the Chemex paper produce a super clean cup.
Orange Cactus Coffee The Best filters oddly for most body have been the kalita. I have a feeling the v60 is a lot of hype. The Paper does more than any of the brew type vessels. I dare you to try every paper in the chemex and you will find ... the paper makes the difference more so than anything else. Thanks for the vids ... keep up the great work. I really like your down to earth reviews ... very entertaining.
I'm going to try the sprinkle at the end. Thanks!
Thanks for the video.
A suggestion if you don't mind: I think you should start your Able Cone pour (after bloom) by using the same pouring process you used to bloom the coffee, by pouring small concentric circles, then switch to a center pour. That would ensure those grounds floating towards the top were wetted again and then the slow non-agitating pour in the center allows the process to work. This would keep the grounds on the water's surface from just floating up there practically dry. Personally, I don't care for the metal cone, I prefer the paper filter, so I won't be testing my theory anytime soon.
Hi Rich, thanks for the suggestion. We completely agree with you, that would ensure better saturation and increase extraction. We wanted to give the "Able" method a try as prescribed just to see what kind of cup it would produce.
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Thx for the video. Reference the grinds that stick to the side of the paper filter…. I like to grab the chemex halfway between the main pours and lightly swirl the water that’s still brewing, and the swirl catches the grinds that are stuck to the side, resulting in a level bed of grinds for the next pour. I don’t know if doing this actually affects the taste of the final cup, but it prevents me from needing to pour water directly on the filter.
Guys, I appreciate knowing that your coffee is hot, but naming a video paper vs steel filters, then using two completely different brews and then not saying a word about the differences in results? C'mon.
It’s a fail on our part. But the best is yet to come. Cheers!
Another vid the guys says to pour at an angle and have the water swirling. Don't know which is correct but maybe give it a shot.
Thank you! Will try.
3-3:20 min brew time is what I usually get with the paper filter for 350g of water in the 6-10 cup Chemex(the 3 cup over extracts because the coffee bed is in much thicker layer with less surface area) and a slightly finer grind than for french press. French press not being as coarse as sea salt more like kosher salt maybe slightly coarser. To get into that range with the Able Kone I need to take the grind down to medium like what I use for the Kalita Wave. You grinds here looks like way too coarse plus fairly low ratio of coffee to water so this cup must be under extracted.
Thanks for the suggestion, Stefan! We try to keep the target time about the same no matter how much we are brewing. To prevent over extraction and the brew from running long, we went coarser on the grind. Had we gone finer, the brew time would have been closer to 4 minutes or possibly over. Are you suggesting that would be better when using the Able Kone?
The Moses and Joshua reference was great!
Thank you!! 🙏
Personally I prefer paper, as I prefer a clean cup.
Edit: I didn't mention that I have both for the chemex.
Same. Much prefer the paper…
I love these brew guides and videos. They're great!
Thanks Nick!
How many oz of coffee does that recipe make?
Zoraida Dobard we used the 6 cup version, which holds 30 ounces or 6-5 ounce cups. Chemex also makes a smaller three cup as well as larger ones, all the way up to 13 cups.
Doesn’t “pre-wet” mean “dry?” 🤔 I agree with test and assumptions. Works for me, and chewing thoughtfully is a great start for my heart!
Absolutely!!!
Great video, I'm ordering my first chemex and am excited to step up my coffee game. Lots of great info! 👍
Sweet! If you go with the paper filters, be sure to only use the white ones. If you want to try the brown, just make sure you thoroughly rinse them to get rid of the heavy cardboard taste. Happy brewing!
@@orangecactuscoffee Good call, I ended up buying my Chemex at a local store, and the only filters they carried we're the brown type. But they seem to be fine with a thorough rinsing as you pointed out. I'm definitely hooked though! Fun to make and the quality is exactly what I've been looking for! 👍 Thanks again for the help!
@@orangecactuscoffee Also, checked out your store, I'll have to order some coffee from you guys and give it a go! 👍
Good idea to skip the grounds in the bottom. They contain caffenol. Which purportedly works like bad cholesterol in your body.
Thank you for the tip!!
Super informative! Thanks Guys☕️
Thank you Eppy!
Is that jim from the office
Hahahaha
I subbed as soon as I heard “ Moses and Joshua”. Coffee beans and Bible memes. I’m in. LOL.
Thank you!! 🙏
Are the other cheaper brands of Metal cone filters any good ?
Bradley Davis I have an Osaka brand I got for about $20 and think it works great.
Alex Peschell thanks ! I may go ahead and buy one.
Thanks, Bradley for jumping in. We don't have experience with any other metal filter.
Orange Cactus Coffee I’ve had 4 uses with the Osaka filter off amazon. It works really well and am surprised how fast it filters. It’s really quick. It even comes with a small packet of cleaner. Osaka is a definite contender at the price point vs Able Kone.
Very helpful! Thanks for the comparison review!
You're welcome. Glad it helped!
17.5 to 17 for stronger coffee ROLMA i could see 15-14 stronger but .5 please
That .5, though…
Paper is faster stainless takes all day...depend on what you need out of your chemex, each day has it's own choices, stainless takes 25-30mins to get 2 cups paper takes 5mins
What sort of stainless do you use? I’ve been using the Osaka stainless double cone for about a year and I find that as long as I use the spray setting on my faucet to rinse it on both sides, and grind the beanies medium coarse, it takes maybe 4 minutes tops. I found it taking forever initially but then I
adjusted to a coarser grind and clean it once a day and it’s been consistent for 10 months.
Wow. That is a long time.
Same…
Let me be the hater:
1. Two additional arms holding the kettle while you rest your "spare" arm on the table, hilarious.
2. To get rid of the sediments get an additional chemex and paper filters and pour your coffee through the filter into the second chemex.
3. The obvious: the coffee is so cloudy, but I guess that's preferences.
4. BREW VESSEL?!
Great list, but the double Chemex is the best idea. Twice filtered.
@@orangecactuscoffee glad you liked it, I guess you got the humor ;) keep it on!
Too bad about the music pollution...click out...
Why do people feel the need to add background music?
Why?
Leon Allan Davis because we like it. Sorry you don’t. Thanks for the feedback.
@@orangecactuscoffee ....well I loved it.
Is it just me or do you guys have a lot of chaff in your coffee?
We collect it.
Someone can explain me, why the chemex type coffee makers are so expensive? 🤓☝️ Stainless steel filter cost 20$, it is non sense 🤭☺️but i still bought it to my friend as a gift, and the flavour was very good and soft ☝️
I can only guess because that’s what the market will pay.
sorry i'm late ...awkwardly funny !
Thanks for watching… it’s true.
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Thank you!
That is some weak looking coffee, Looks more like tea.
Use 52 grams to 700 ml or 30 to 400 it will be plenty strong.
Thank you!
oh ya your pouring it wrong
We’re always doing it wrong.