@@raeludiansa3654 I didn't say he was wrong, I just say he wasn't in shuichi's side by once. And you said he was in every single scrum debate in shuichi's team.
Maki in Chapter 5 in a Nutshell: Imn’t the culprit!! stet in my way please!! (Translation: Im not/am the culprit!! Stop getting in my way or Get in my way please Shuichi I don’t mine 😊🔪)
At that time, it was the right action not to vote for Kiyo since the blackened is Angie's murderer (not Tenko's), who "just so happens" to be Kiyo. It's a slip up on the part of the creators of V3 tbh. Missed opportunity for two culprits.
@@QqQ3Three3 Ikr imagine if Kiyo did kill but someone else was executed as a separate blackened, it would mean the students would deadass have to live with a proven blackened for at least a whole chapter.
There should be a mod to the game that lets you execute Kiyo faster on the basis that everyone else found him guilty before it could be factually proven that he was. I want to call it "That's Where You're... Right?"
@@QqQ3Three3It would’ve been cool if Tenko was the first killer and Korekiyo was the second killer. I would wonder if it would be like Celeste’s situation, where since the first killer died, the second killer gets punished. Or would it be that he escapes punishment and now everyone hates his guts.
@bct2308 "Well, miss Iruma, you could've gotten the wrong answer. So just use the method the Protagonists way if doing things." Teacher Monokuma probably -2017
Here's some fun facts about the scrum debate Angie is always on the right side for both of the ones she is in, while Tenko is always on Himikos side, presenting the Logic (Angie) vs Emotion (Tenko) argument between the two Keebo is always on the right side, even if Shuichi is wrong. For example, chapter 5 Shuichi is arguing that Kaito is dead, but in reality Kaito is alive, which is what Keebo thinks, this is most likely because he is the camera, and the people watching will want to be right. After trial After chapter 1, Maki and Kaito are always on the same side Kaede's portrait is always on Shuichi's side, as if cheering him on beyond the grave Comment any more you know
I think I found another one Tusungi at the 1st class trial was at Kadea side but at the rest of the class trials she at the other side of Kadea, it’s like at the first class trial she was trying to pin her as the murderer so they won’t be suspicious at her.
@@aizichi It was actually censorship. The game wouldn't have gotten localized if they didn't change the color. It's pretty pointless, but that's how it goes sometimes lol
Can we talk about Mius rebuttal showdown really quick? So many points in her rebuttal were actually correct without her knowing. The blade would stab Tenko in the neck and whoever did set down the sheet would be the killer. If we took a moment to think back after we learned what the seesaw trick was we would've easily know the culprit was Kiyo if it wasn't obvious enough already.
If the 3rd case only limited with Angie’s murder, Kiyo would have better chances to win his trial as they would have elaborated that Angie would have never leave her lab before being killed, which only made Himiko, Gonta, Tenko, Tsumugi and K1-B0 the only suspects of this murder. Because even if the katana was what killed Angie, anyone could have used it and the only one with the possibility of entering Angie’s lab in normal terms would have been the students council’s members. It really was the second murder that gives every evidences about Angie’s murder.
@@themastermindvigilante4029 Yes because if he didn’t murder Tenko then they wouldn’t find the Bloody Floodboard and wouldn’t know that she was knock out somewhere else. Basically he play himself
@@positivea9111 Yup, perhaps he really intended to trick the others by made them thinking 2 different persons killed each victims as he didn’t know about the double murders rule. After all, without this rule, even if he would be found for Tenko’s murder, there would be chances that he wouldn’t be found guilty for Angie. Because the blood on the floorboard could have been misunderstood as Tenko’s blood and not be found coherent with Angie as she normally didn’t leave her lab. But because of the rule and Tenko’s murder, Kiyo’s trick was finally found.
@@angelic4mimi He didn’t planned to murder Angie so of course he was kinda took off guard, who knows if someone else was outside their dorms at this time during his preparations. Plus, he couldn’t give up after this murder or he would still be found for the crime even without Tenko’s murder. I mean, Kokichi would probably investigated in the empty rooms even without her death. The real mistake behind Angie’s murder would have been to use the katana as his weapon of choice. It helped him for the closed room trick but that also direct suspicion on him due to his talent and his interest about this weapon. But to be honest, i guess i’m not an objective person for the danganronpa fandom as i’m one of those who really likes the chapter 3 of both games. I really like Korekiyo about how intelligent he was as a killer despite some obvious flaws about the crime but hey, he still play a good part in his own trial as the obvious yet complicated killer of this case. And his motive was also kinda creative even if for some people, they considered that as pure shit.
Kaede: I don't think it was possible to hide in the hidden door. Angie: What? You dare challenge Atua? -- Many Hours Later After Learning The Actual Truth -- Me: Wait... was Atua right from the get-go?
Ryoma said it himself: he wouldn't just be undefeated on the court (or win in gambling) if he had random luck Perhaps he had an inherent talent for luck like Celeste and Nagito, and when Tsumugi realised the brainwashing didn't take that away from him, she made sure the next motive would take him down.
Danganronpa should have had a option for “agreeing” with people in a rebuttal showdown. It could be interesting to have someone correct the protagonist during their argument and Kaede or Shuichi would say “I get it now!” Or “It all makes sense!” It would be so wholesome if you could agree with Ryoma and Kaede would be like “Oh, thank you for correcting me Ryoma! We could have been so lost without you…”
Originally posted 7 months ago; edited now: I appreciate the 4th case a lot because of the way V3 handles its subversion. In most tropes in which all of the characters are struggling to believe a perceived foe trying to tell the truth, only the protagonist believes them because they are the protagonist, and of course they're right. In this case, it's very in character for everyone to take the side they're in (for the scrum debate). It makes sense for Gonta not to believe Kokichi because he doesn't remember killing anyone. It makes sense for most to not believe Kokichi as he's established himself as someone not to trust. It makes sense for Tsumugi to fake it since she can't blow her cover. We know that Maki, Kaito, and Himiko don't like Kokichi that much. As per our other side, we already know Shuichi is striving for the truth, and this just another obstacle to the truth to overcome in spite of him wanting to believe Gonta. The highlight here, though, is Kiibo. It makes perfect sense for him to consider Kokichi's side since as a robot, he doesn't have that added element of human emotion to hold him back. He is mostly a logical individual after all. Also, It's nice how they don't Gary-Stu Kaito into being the mentor whom Shuichi should always listen to.
100% agree with Kaito. He meant well, but his heartfelt speeches came off as pretty stupid in most cases, and some of the cast actually recognize that, which imo makes him a better character overall. He definitely means well, but he’s not in the correct kind of game to have that mentality.
@@samuellai1908Yes. They presented valid points, just in the wrong context. Ryoma actually almost figured out who it was, but the fact he didn't know about the passage screwed him over
Let’s all admit it We loved their Argument Armament costumes Also,i kinda wonder if they made some kind of game with those costumes as if they were in a magica type of game ( I’m talking about like Madoka Magica or Chunnibyou)
All K-named characters in this game have had some killing intent and/or killed someone. The five you mentioned plus Kokichi. I'm not sure if Kibo intended to kill Tsumugi but I'm glad he did
Just like a comment I remember reading years ago, it's funny how you can sum up the games. DR1: Screw Despair DR2: Screw Hope DR3: Screw Everything But man, that last fight with keebo? I get it it was all over the place, but the "Lol", always took me offguard. It reminded me of the leet speak talk from Partner's in Time. It was cringe to read/hear.
is funny how most of the third chapters fights are you defending kiyo only to realize that he really is the culprit, would have been hilarious if they added an alternate end to that case if shuichi failed in defending him early on but he still gets executed pissed that they got a lucky guess lol
Tbh kaito's argument was the saddest for me. Even though he cant accept the fact, he still fight that gonta is innocent. He is right that kokichi should be not trusted but he is wrong for believing gonta as innocent.
Chapter 1: ryoma make the rebbutal shodown Chapter 2: ryoma die Chapter 2: tenko make the the rebbutal shodown Chapter 3: tenko die Chapter 3: miu make the rebbutal shodown Chapter 4: miu die
@@jasonthompson8732 and some she wasn’t, she had gonta’s ‘tug session’ comment, which was quite ironic thinking gonta liked miu by tugging on the toilet paper, and she planned to kill kokochi, and put the poison (symbolising the strike 9 arrows maki shot) and would frame kaito (kokichis actual killer), so she even predicted future trials
@astrozzz_ Because there was no dead body left - Kokochi was crushed, the press wouldn't budge, and all they had to go off of was the fabricated footage that led them to believe Kaito was the victim
Anytime an Argument Armament happened I burst into laughter. Mostly because in the first 2 games you just had normal character sprites and here you have the culprits turn into Miraculous supervillians It was also really bad, considering any amount of built-up sadness I had during the trial was killed with that segment
And idk about you guys but whenever *I* get into an emotional argument where the stakes are as high as condemning someone to death I do not have the time to think about my opponent beaten, battered, and with barely an clothing
Spoilers: There's a way you could find out the mastermind Tsumugi is ALWAYS ON THE OPPOSITE side in the scrum debate. Outside of the first one So you could think she has something to do with all of the murders. 🤔🤔🤔
That’s make the first case the most confusing ever as she decided to blow her cover a little and actually agreeing with Kaede as her original plan failed. Considering V3’s plot, the question would be "did she plan Kaede’s plan to fail or there’s something that she couldn’t control that made her plan failed and that she had to finish the job herself ?".
But why was she on our side in the first scrum debate? Sure we werent playing as Suichi in the first scrum debate but Suichi was on our side so Tsumigi was still siding with Suichi
Rebuttal Showdowns 0:01 Ryoma Hoshi "The fog has lifted." 13:29 Tenko Chabashira "Mind over strength!" 19:03 Kirumi Tojo "This is my selfless devotion!" 24:02 Miu Iruma "I've got your remodel right here!" 26:35 Korekiyo Shinguji 1 "Your deductions are fiction." 32:42 Korekiyo Shinguji 2 "I will not fear, I will not back down." 40:33 Gonta Gokuhara "Gonta no can ignore that!" 42:25 Kaito Momota "Don't be naive, Shuichi!" 51:33 Maki Harukawa 1 "Screw that logic." 57:55 Maki Harukawa 2 "I'll kill you." 1:05:41 Monokubs 1 "That's very wrong!" 1:08:23 Monokubs 2 "That's very wrong!" 1:11:41 Shuichi Saihara "I reject that hope!"
You wrote Maki's wrong, Maki 1 says "should I kill that logic" and Maki 2 says "I'll kill that logic" Also the monokubs say "thats beary wrong" not thats "very wrong"
I think that this game is the first one who interact with the audience and the community it self or in way because the first game was so popular that every players wants an another one and so V2 but V3 is actually the one where the character realize that hope and despair are not the solution but reasoning the outside world to stop demanding and supporting this killing game In the end they actually won because as we see in the end every thing is destroyed and keebo explode him self with the hole academy this game is one of the very great four wall breaking game that I really enjoyed playing not for the killing lol but for the friendship they build and how the trial were made It finishes off with a great end for the characters and I don't think there is going to be a V4
I mean, it did happened right after shoving in the face of these traumatized teenagers that their lives and all who died don't really matter cause they're not real
I mean, while I dislike the fact that the game pretty much jabs at its own fanbase, I do agree that folks should not be so gung-ho for every killing game. In fact, to be completely honest, I actually _hate_ the killing game and investigation elements; I got into Danganronpa for the _characters_ and their interesting personalities and dynamics, not the complex murder tricks or ridiculous angst. I actually prefer Non-Despair/Everyone Lives AUs more than any other fan media based on the series.
I agree and I am pretty sure they planed it too but choose not to do it because in Tsumugi's gallery of the DR wiki, there is a pic of a AA Shield with the symbol of her School.
Yeah I'd prefer a battle against her instead of the Monokubs. Makes sense to not battle Gonta due his lack of memory and speech disability. I guess they ran out of time after the K1-bo fight. The final trial is like 4 hours
@@dougtheghoul2845 Gonta doesn't have a speach disability, that was made up by the English dub. In Japanese he just speaks in 3rd person, but so does Tenko But yeah it fits for him not to be the one fighting
My idea of the ending in this game should have been that Tsumugi and Team Danganronpa (the cult of the killing game) kidnapped the ultimate teenagers and the reason they were kidnapped was because they all had something to do with the previous characters. Example: Shuichi is Makoto and Kyoko's son, Kazuichi built the rocket ship at the space station where Kaito was a trainee, I haven't thought of other ideas but it could be better
@@venor2612 It was because it was 5 years since he last voiced Monokuma at that point, so he had to get back into form in the the prologue and chapter 1 since he was getting used to the voice again
I spoiled myself with the thumbnail before I finished the game but I really thought that Kaito was gonna become a culprit and manipulate us into trusting him and it made me nervous so much that I eyed him for the entirety of the third and fourth chapters until I pretty much gave up at chapter 5
Ok but like miu and ryoma’s rebuttal showdown was telling the truth, ryoma told that the culprit aka the mastermind could’ve been sneaking on rantaro and then killing them, after that they went to hide themselves by going thru the bookcase door and almost got caught when kaede and the others saw the bookcase was closing. Now for miu, miu knew the culprit who killed tenko placed over a blade under the sheet and got stabbed without her knowing it. She also knew the second culprit in the second trial
I kept the argument going for all of the rebuttal showdowns where the weak spot is not their last line. Ryoma, Korekiyo 2, Monokubs 2, and Shuichi are the only times I used the truth blade the first time because the weak spot is in there last line of the argument.
@@laftrmastr It's so you hear their entire argument and all of their dialogue. Most of the time people use the truth blade the first time around and don't let them finish speaking. I did the same in the DR2 video with rebuttal showdowns.
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K1-B0 is the chracter that was on the protagonists side for the longest that was also in every single scrum debate
I just realized that
Except the one of chapter 5
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@@sisho4743 i said longest lol
Also keebo technically was correct in all of them because in the last scrum debate shuichi was incorrect im pretty sure
@@raeludiansa3654 I didn't say he was wrong, I just say he wasn't in shuichi's side by once.
And you said he was in every single scrum debate in shuichi's team.
1:13:09 the one moment which honestly caught me off guard. Shuichi was the first protagonist to turn his back on hope and it's honestly amazing to see
He's right tho
It's because their hope is fabricated and not the genuine article.
And the piano playing in the background too 😭
Shuichi: I reject hope!
Komaeda: [Heart Attack]
Kibo in his way to be the most likeable character
Maki in Chapter 5: I’m not the culprit
Maki in Chapter 5 (later on): I’m the culprit
Ohhh i get it
Maki in Chapter 5 in a Nutshell: Imn’t the culprit!! stet in my way please!! (Translation: Im not/am the culprit!! Stop getting in my way or Get in my way please Shuichi I don’t mine 😊🔪)
Thats also basically kaede in chapter 1
ah yes, the Chapter that solidified her as my least favorite dr character in the whole series
@@No_Sleepee the opposite for me, this made her my favorite character in the DR franchise (aside from Fuyuhiko and Mondo)
26:03
Miu: Culprit is Kiyo
Shuichi: That’s Wrong!
Also Shuichi: Kiyo is the killer!
At that time, it was the right action not to vote for Kiyo since the blackened is Angie's murderer (not Tenko's), who "just so happens" to be Kiyo. It's a slip up on the part of the creators of V3 tbh. Missed opportunity for two culprits.
@@QqQ3Three3 Ikr imagine if Kiyo did kill but someone else was executed as a separate blackened, it would mean the students would deadass have to live with a proven blackened for at least a whole chapter.
There should be a mod to the game that lets you execute Kiyo faster on the basis that everyone else found him guilty before it could be factually proven that he was. I want to call it "That's Where You're... Right?"
@@mrreyes5004EXACTLY WHAT I’VE BEEN THINKING it would have been so interesting to witness
@@QqQ3Three3It would’ve been cool if Tenko was the first killer and Korekiyo was the second killer. I would wonder if it would be like Celeste’s situation, where since the first killer died, the second killer gets punished. Or would it be that he escapes punishment and now everyone hates his guts.
26:02 Miu used the wrong formula, but got the right answer
When you get the answer right but you didn't use the teacher's formula:
@@kaitysworldk4290 “But it was right! Why the f🤬 does it matter!?” -Miu Iruma, 2017, probably.
@bct2308 "Well, miss Iruma, you could've gotten the wrong answer. So just use the method the Protagonists way if doing things." Teacher Monokuma probably -2017
Here's some fun facts about the scrum debate
Angie is always on the right side for both of the ones she is in, while Tenko is always on Himikos side, presenting the Logic (Angie) vs Emotion (Tenko) argument between the two
Keebo is always on the right side, even if Shuichi is wrong. For example, chapter 5 Shuichi is arguing that Kaito is dead, but in reality Kaito is alive, which is what Keebo thinks, this is most likely because he is the camera, and the people watching will want to be right.
After trial After chapter 1, Maki and Kaito are always on the same side
Kaede's portrait is always on Shuichi's side, as if cheering him on beyond the grave
Comment any more you know
From what I noticed, Kaito and Kokichi are always on different sides
Miu is never on your side, despite being alive for three chapters.
I'm pretty sure keebo was on the wrong side in the third trial. Korekiyo was the murderer for both
I think I found another one Tusungi at the 1st class trial was at Kadea side but at the rest of the class trials she at the other side of Kadea, it’s like at the first class trial she was trying to pin her as the murderer so they won’t be suspicious at her.
@@SG-jc1pe He was with Shuichi
47:05
Yes Tsumugi..
Your right, Gonta just not hurts a fly
It hurts a human
tsumugi team!!
weak spot mood truth cylinder
selecting truth bullet influence/focus gauge
blade and time
What.
the V-cut in 21:40 has to be the best skill shot i've seen in this game
Holy shit, he lead the shot!
a late cut, noscope, diagonal moving V-counter. oh my god
Kirumi: “There’s no evidence to suggest this had-“
Shuichi: “HOLY SHIT I JUST GOT THE GREATEST V SHOT”
@@thebrightdiamondtp7871bro became the ultimate gamer for a second 💀
@@Makaibroschiaki moment
Miu: It was blood red…..
Kokichi: maybe use your tiny brain and eyes to realize IT WAS PINK
Kokichi: Miu we're supposed to pretend it's pink...Kodaka told me "just pretend pink equals red or something"
It's red lolol they Makoto narrates red in the 1st game it's basically censorship
@@scarynoise996 Yup, a lot of the deaths suddenly look WAY gorier if you replace the bright pink with dark red.
@@scarynoise996 it's not censorship, it's artstyle. the characters see red but we see pink. plus why would they censor blood in a death game??
@@aizichi It was actually censorship. The game wouldn't have gotten localized if they didn't change the color. It's pretty pointless, but that's how it goes sometimes lol
1:23:12 "This guy should have died instead of Kaede!"💀
Lmfao noooo shumai
I mean... they've got a point.
@@No_Sleepee I agree
It *IS* the voices of the outside world so...
Did he also say "the ginger girl is so annoying"? I couldn't listen clearly
OH GOD I JUST LOVE WHEN ANGIE SAYS''WHAT? you dare challenge Atua?'' i just imagine her beating up Kaede lol
Wait why do i see it
Kaede: Yes. Yes I do.
I- I *need* to draw that.
Ok but Atua was right in this instance so… don’t challenge Atua
@@verylexiconic did you draw it
Can we talk about Mius rebuttal showdown really quick?
So many points in her rebuttal were actually correct without her knowing. The blade would stab Tenko in the neck and whoever did set down the sheet would be the killer. If we took a moment to think back after we learned what the seesaw trick was we would've easily know the culprit was Kiyo if it wasn't obvious enough already.
If the 3rd case only limited with Angie’s murder, Kiyo would have better chances to win his trial as they would have elaborated that Angie would have never leave her lab before being killed, which only made Himiko, Gonta, Tenko, Tsumugi and K1-B0 the only suspects of this murder.
Because even if the katana was what killed Angie, anyone could have used it and the only one with the possibility of entering Angie’s lab in normal terms would have been the students council’s members.
It really was the second murder that gives every evidences about Angie’s murder.
@@themastermindvigilante4029 Yes because if he didn’t murder Tenko then they wouldn’t find the Bloody Floodboard and wouldn’t know that she was knock out somewhere else. Basically he play himself
@@positivea9111 Yup, perhaps he really intended to trick the others by made them thinking 2 different persons killed each victims as he didn’t know about the double murders rule.
After all, without this rule, even if he would be found for Tenko’s murder, there would be chances that he wouldn’t be found guilty for Angie.
Because the blood on the floorboard could have been misunderstood as Tenko’s blood and not be found coherent with Angie as she normally didn’t leave her lab.
But because of the rule and Tenko’s murder, Kiyo’s trick was finally found.
@@themastermindvigilante4029he really tried reverse psychology but failed miserably because he won’t clean his mess 💀
@@angelic4mimi He didn’t planned to murder Angie so of course he was kinda took off guard, who knows if someone else was outside their dorms at this time during his preparations. Plus, he couldn’t give up after this murder or he would still be found for the crime even without Tenko’s murder. I mean, Kokichi would probably investigated in the empty rooms even without her death.
The real mistake behind Angie’s murder would have been to use the katana as his weapon of choice.
It helped him for the closed room trick but that also direct suspicion on him due to his talent and his interest about this weapon.
But to be honest, i guess i’m not an objective person for the danganronpa fandom as i’m one of those who really likes the chapter 3 of both games.
I really like Korekiyo about how intelligent he was as a killer despite some obvious flaws about the crime but hey, he still play a good part in his own trial as the obvious yet complicated killer of this case.
And his motive was also kinda creative even if for some people, they considered that as pure shit.
Kaede: I don't think it was possible to hide in the hidden door.
Angie: What? You dare challenge Atua?
-- Many Hours Later After Learning The Actual Truth --
Me: Wait... was Atua right from the get-go?
Put a gun at your back.
Always has been
I also remember Tsumugi asking Angie if Atua looked like Izzuru
I find it pretty funny that it turned out Ryoma was right but they didn’t figure it out until so long after he died lol
That might be why she gave him that motive video, to have himself get killed and start the next class trial
Ryoma said it himself: he wouldn't just be undefeated on the court (or win in gambling) if he had random luck
Perhaps he had an inherent talent for luck like Celeste and Nagito, and when Tsumugi realised the brainwashing didn't take that away from him, she made sure the next motive would take him down.
Danganronpa should have had a option for “agreeing” with people in a rebuttal showdown. It could be interesting to have someone correct the protagonist during their argument and Kaede or Shuichi would say “I get it now!” Or “It all makes sense!” It would be so wholesome if you could agree with Ryoma and Kaede would be like “Oh, thank you for correcting me Ryoma! We could have been so lost without you…”
@@T0B3573R THIIIIIS! YES! I WANT THIS SO BAD!
Ikr I was sitting there listening like… Angie and Ryouma are correct 😂
Originally posted 7 months ago; edited now:
I appreciate the 4th case a lot because of the way V3 handles its subversion. In most tropes in which all of the characters are struggling to believe a perceived foe trying to tell the truth, only the protagonist believes them because they are the protagonist, and of course they're right. In this case, it's very in character for everyone to take the side they're in (for the scrum debate).
It makes sense for Gonta not to believe Kokichi because he doesn't remember killing anyone. It makes sense for most to not believe Kokichi as he's established himself as someone not to trust. It makes sense for Tsumugi to fake it since she can't blow her cover. We know that Maki, Kaito, and Himiko don't like Kokichi that much.
As per our other side, we already know Shuichi is striving for the truth, and this just another obstacle to the truth to overcome in spite of him wanting to believe Gonta.
The highlight here, though, is Kiibo. It makes perfect sense for him to consider Kokichi's side since as a robot, he doesn't have that added element of human emotion to hold him back. He is mostly a logical individual after all.
Also, It's nice how they don't Gary-Stu Kaito into being the mentor whom Shuichi should always listen to.
100% agree with Kaito. He meant well, but his heartfelt speeches came off as pretty stupid in most cases, and some of the cast actually recognize that, which imo makes him a better character overall. He definitely means well, but he’s not in the correct kind of game to have that mentality.
I reject that hope.
@@DaLucster72 Which makes his eventual partnership with Kokichi and his death all the more poignant
My favourite part was that madlad from the outside world commenting “CTRL+ALT+KEEBO”
Wait when
What is mindblowing to me IS that in the first debate whit ryoma he explains how rantaro died (explained in the last class)
Well he did kill a mafia with just tennis equipment.
In retrospective Miu and Ryoma had very good arguments about the killers
But they often oppose Shuichi’s logic.
Ryoma I think would’ve been a good opposing side antagonist
@@samuellai1908Yes. They presented valid points, just in the wrong context. Ryoma actually almost figured out who it was, but the fact he didn't know about the passage screwed him over
Props to the person who played through the whole game just to get this video out
Let’s all admit it
We loved their Argument Armament costumes
Also,i kinda wonder if they made some kind of game with those costumes as if they were in a magica type of game ( I’m talking about like Madoka Magica or Chunnibyou)
Yeah
Yea.. I really loved the costume at 23:56
fighting game alts
A Danganronpa playing cards match?
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiii3081 Based
1:20:26 Shuichi countered Tsumugi with the line she made for Kaito.
And that is what we call dramatic irony
Watching this made me realize how freaking scary Kiyo is
Even his Love Hotel event is terrifying. I never saw the Red String of Fate trope the same way after that...
I just realised that every character in the Argument Armament except for Maki starts with K: Kaede, Kirumi, Korekiyo, Kaito and even Keebo
All K-named characters in this game have had some killing intent and/or killed someone. The five you mentioned plus Kokichi. I'm not sure if Kibo intended to kill Tsumugi but I'm glad he did
Maki is also the only character we have an argument aramanta against to not die at any point in the game.
The text of the people at 1:13:08 is priceless 😂😂😂😂✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨
Shuichi looks yummy
LMAO I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE THE TEXT EXISTED UNTIL I SAW THIS COMMENT-
I hate how accurately they portrayed the audience lol
LOL
To be fair ryoma hit it right on the money!
Just like a comment I remember reading years ago, it's funny how you can sum up the games.
DR1: Screw Despair
DR2: Screw Hope
DR3: Screw Everything
But man, that last fight with keebo? I get it it was all over the place, but the "Lol", always took me offguard. It reminded me of the leet speak talk from Partner's in Time. It was cringe to read/hear.
25:31 "...blood red!" what are you talking about Miu?
It's red blood to them
@@noobistrapped7097 I know, it was a joke. I made a video about it not too long ago.
@@cactchris
Oh ok
But the blood in this game is pink .-.
@@UnknownWhispers401 exactlyy
"Oh keebo and ryoma didn't have alibis they could have went into the girls bathroom" tsumugi do even hear urself at this point
Producerkuma: this girl cannot improv!
XD
is funny how most of the third chapters fights are you defending kiyo only to realize that he really is the culprit, would have been hilarious if they added an alternate end to that case if shuichi failed in defending him early on but he still gets executed pissed that they got a lucky guess lol
Tbh kaito's argument was the saddest for me. Even though he cant accept the fact, he still fight that gonta is innocent. He is right that kokichi should be not trusted but he is wrong for believing gonta as innocent.
Chapter 1: ryoma make the rebbutal shodown
Chapter 2: ryoma die
Chapter 2: tenko make the the rebbutal shodown
Chapter 3: tenko die
Chapter 3: miu make the rebbutal shodown
Chapter 4: miu die
Chapter 4: Kaito make rebuttal showdown
Chapter 5: Kaito die
Miu in 2nd trial:I think the cleaning lady here is the culprit!
Miu in 3rd trial:And that’s none other than Kiyo!
She was technically right on every killer she was around for
@@jasonthompson8732 and some she wasn’t, she had gonta’s ‘tug session’ comment, which was quite ironic thinking gonta liked miu by tugging on the toilet paper, and she planned to kill kokochi, and put the poison (symbolising the strike 9 arrows maki shot) and would frame kaito (kokichis actual killer), so she even predicted future trials
@@Fish-personMiu is a better clairvoyant than Yasuhiro for guessing the way she dies and Kokichi dies unintentionally.
Ok but its so funny when she says the killer is monokuma in chapter 1
@@jasonthompson8732No not true, she assumed Shuichi was the killer of the first case.
I always found it funny how Maki fucked up both who died and who killed them. The 2 most important things in the investigation
I mean to be fair, the dead victim was smashed, and the hydraulic press was stuck, so there was no way to examine the body.
@astrozzz_ Because there was no dead body left - Kokochi was crushed, the press wouldn't budge, and all they had to go off of was the fabricated footage that led them to believe Kaito was the victim
Anytime an Argument Armament happened I burst into laughter.
Mostly because in the first 2 games you just had normal character sprites and here you have the culprits turn into Miraculous supervillians
It was also really bad, considering any amount of built-up sadness I had during the trial was killed with that segment
LMFAOOO NOT U DISRESPECTING THEM BY COMPARING THEM TO MIRACULOUS VILLAINS 😭😭
And idk about you guys but whenever *I* get into an emotional argument where the stakes are as high as condemning someone to death I do not have the time to think about my opponent beaten, battered, and with barely an clothing
"MIRACULOUS SUPERVILLAINS"
O
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XD
Also why was the answer to putting Kirumi, Kiyo, and Kaito into rags in the rythym minigame by ripping off as much clothing as possible?
I kinda wish Kiyo maintained the same composure throughout the trial that he had in his first showdown
10:20 AIN'T NOTHING BUT A HEARTACHE!!!
0:49 "The fog has lifted"
Hello me
Bro,Ryoma was such a good caracther,I wanted to see more of him during the class trials....he should have survived😔
I love how in the first debate scrum Shuichi was stressed
32:49 when the argument started bet everyone was like: .......what the fuck?
Spoilers: There's a way you could find out the mastermind
Tsumugi is ALWAYS ON THE OPPOSITE side in the scrum debate. Outside of the first one
So you could think she has something to do with all of the murders. 🤔🤔🤔
Not only that but she never appear in an agreement with the protagonist.
The only time it technically happened is in the first scrum debate.
That’s make the first case the most confusing ever as she decided to blow her cover a little and actually agreeing with Kaede as her original plan failed.
Considering V3’s plot, the question would be "did she plan Kaede’s plan to fail or there’s something that she couldn’t control that made her plan failed and that she had to finish the job herself ?".
But why was she on our side in the first scrum debate? Sure we werent playing as Suichi in the first scrum debate but Suichi was on our side so Tsumigi was still siding with Suichi
@@nintendoboy3605 because she wanted to frame kaede
Rebuttal Showdowns
0:01 Ryoma Hoshi "The fog has lifted."
13:29 Tenko Chabashira "Mind over strength!"
19:03 Kirumi Tojo "This is my selfless devotion!"
24:02 Miu Iruma "I've got your remodel right here!"
26:35 Korekiyo Shinguji 1 "Your deductions are fiction."
32:42 Korekiyo Shinguji 2 "I will not fear, I will not back down."
40:33 Gonta Gokuhara "Gonta no can ignore that!"
42:25 Kaito Momota "Don't be naive, Shuichi!"
51:33 Maki Harukawa 1 "Screw that logic."
57:55 Maki Harukawa 2 "I'll kill you."
1:05:41 Monokubs 1 "That's very wrong!"
1:08:23 Monokubs 2 "That's very wrong!"
1:11:41 Shuichi Saihara "I reject that hope!"
maki said “???? that logic” if i had to guess, i think she said “ill kill”, but im not sure
@@pixelturtle5041 maybe it was "Screw that logic."
@@pixelturtle5041 I just put it that way if it satisfies you :)
You wrote Maki's wrong, Maki 1 says "should I kill that logic" and Maki 2 says "I'll kill that logic" Also the monokubs say "thats beary wrong" not thats "very wrong"
She said "Can I kill that logic?"
Shuichi: we are gonna end Danganronpa
Kodaka years after: *insert Danganronpa s ultimate summer camp and 1 more game *
Switch game isn't a killing game, at least, so...
XD
You're really flexing with all these near-perfect plays and Focus-less V Cuts. I can't imagine how long it took to find all the latter ones.
Same
I think that this game is the first one who interact with the audience and the community it self or in way because the first game was so popular that every players wants an another one and so V2 but V3 is actually the one where the character realize that hope and despair are not the solution but reasoning the outside world to stop demanding and supporting this killing game
In the end they actually won because as we see in the end every thing is destroyed and keebo explode him self with the hole academy this game is one of the very great four wall breaking game that I really enjoyed playing not for the killing lol but for the friendship they build and how the trial were made
It finishes off with a great end for the characters and I don't think there is going to be a V4
I mean, it did happened right after shoving in the face of these traumatized teenagers that their lives and all who died don't really matter cause they're not real
I mean, while I dislike the fact that the game pretty much jabs at its own fanbase, I do agree that folks should not be so gung-ho for every killing game. In fact, to be completely honest, I actually _hate_ the killing game and investigation elements; I got into Danganronpa for the _characters_ and their interesting personalities and dynamics, not the complex murder tricks or ridiculous angst. I actually prefer Non-Despair/Everyone Lives AUs more than any other fan media based on the series.
Tsumugi should have got an Argument Armement since she is the mastermind.
I agree and I am pretty sure they planed it too but choose not to do it because in Tsumugi's gallery of the DR wiki, there is a pic of a AA Shield with the symbol of her School.
Yeah I'd prefer a battle against her instead of the Monokubs. Makes sense to not battle Gonta due his lack of memory and speech disability. I guess they ran out of time after the K1-bo fight. The final trial is like 4 hours
@@dougtheghoul2845 Gonta doesn't have a speach disability, that was made up by the English dub. In Japanese he just speaks in 3rd person, but so does Tenko
But yeah it fits for him not to be the one fighting
@@dougtheghoul2845The Monokubs never got an argument arament, its rebuttal showdown you're thinking of
Different cosplay each stage!
My idea of the ending in this game should have been that Tsumugi and Team Danganronpa (the cult of the killing game) kidnapped the ultimate teenagers and the reason they were kidnapped was because they all had something to do with the previous characters. Example: Shuichi is Makoto and Kyoko's son, Kazuichi built the rocket ship at the space station where Kaito was a trainee, I haven't thought of other ideas but it could be better
Am I the only who wants a alternative universe where Kaede and Shuichi survive together?
there is actually but I don't think its confirmed where everyone survived
Its called listening to ryoma hoshi
ROGICAL RONDO
XD
38:34 momento icónico de danganrompa
NOPE NOPE NOPE
yup
Ayamate
AYAMATE
*AYAMATE!*
Ok It's only me or monokuma sounds like Mickey Mouse
He did at the begin of the game but than went back to normal Monokuma lol
@@venor2612
It was because it was 5 years since he last voiced Monokuma at that point, so he had to get back into form in the the prologue and chapter 1 since he was getting used to the voice again
15:10 okay calm down akane
I like how Ryoma basically instantly solved the truth behind the first case but nobody believed him so kaede had to die...
Coming back to this in 2024 look how annoyed Shuichi looks during the argument armament I'm crying
Bro's just like: can we get this over and done with I wanna go back to sleep 💀💀
41:52 GEPEPEPEPPE THE ULTIMATE ROAST STOPPPP 😭😭
LMAO I DIDN'T NOTICE AT THE END OF KEEBOS AA HE JUST GETS SENT FLYING INTO THE ABYSS
In the 1:13:05 the music came in that we always know
1:22:50 Keebo really said “lol”. Literally.
So kiyo, if you have any objections you can-
*your deductions are fiction.*
I died laughing bro
reminds me of how something else is also fiction...
Well, I literally asked for it...
XD
chapter 5 made me love Maki even more
Kaito and Koukichi were in opposite split opinion debate teams for the entire game
The Scrum Debate was legit the best thing in this game,
& its absence from the final Chapter is legitimately a bigger negative for me than the twist.
Yeah they were fun idk why it wasn't in chapter 6s trial tho 🤔
Too few people
XD
43:56 WASNT KAITO THE ONE WHO SAID "The impossible is possible all you gotta do is make it so" LIKE TF
7:15 I feel more sorry for rantaro now
I'd actually like to see a Danganronpa V3 prequel were you play as Rantaro or something like that. Getting to experience his first killing game
I never knew i was watching this for over an hour
If keebos showdown wasn’t the hardest part of that game idk what is
The entirety of the 6th trial
*Nagito has entered the chat*
"Mods? Ban all "Bagel" sockpuppetts out of the chat!"
XD
They really need to add more seasons of Danganronpa it actually good!!
49 Seasons to find...
38:43 - This is Mikan all over again.
Love how the chapter 5 scrum debate was also the only one where you supported the wrong side
0:12 you are wrong because tsumugi hid there
I like the retro kinda music before the show down
I spoiled myself with the thumbnail before I finished the game but I really thought that Kaito was gonna become a culprit and manipulate us into trusting him and it made me nervous so much that I eyed him for the entirety of the third and fourth chapters until I pretty much gave up at chapter 5
1:16:36
Me: It was you all along, ISN'T IT?!?!?!?!
WTF (almost) EVERY ARMAMENT ARGUMENT ENDS WITH CHARACTERS GETTING NAKED
Ryoma be looking like he taking a piss in the thumbnail
` no way fiction can change the world
*lol* ` `
1:15:53 this always gets me bad...
0:00 all I learned is that I shouldn’t challenge Atua. Turns out he was right…
I love the voice from ryoma such cool.
Fun fact
In v2, Mahiru did the first rebuttal in the game's franchise, and she died next, same as Ryoma
My opinion, anything wrong
RYOMA WAS RIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME FUCK
“Not gentlmenly at all!1!1!” Also gonta:kidnaps people in chapter 2
ryoma actually had some reasoning there ( 1:14 )
Lol i just love how they let kiyo's speech carry on. I get so invested in kiyo omgggg
jeez, junko put the microphone in the belly of the monobeast.
She could just put two in the ears but Junko is Junko is Junko.
Keebo: Change the world, my final message. Goodbye.
Right now when I look at this I see the people who have an argument are those who die
Admittedly, Scrum Debates are easily my favorite parts of V3's trials.
K1-b0 legit whipped out the boggest uno reverse in chapter 9 lmao
So kokichi’s voice actor in English AND in Japanese is the same as zenitsu from kny ?!
WAIT ACTUALLY????
@@nex2107 for the English one it’s only goto and the spider demon zenitsu fought but they really are alike
oooo that's still really interesting
Lightning Coward IS A LIE!!
XD
They never apologized.
10:19
aint nothin like a-
Thanks to Angie, Himiko, Rantaro, Kibo and Tsumugi for never arguing with us and making me suffer and scream at my computer :)
Dangan Ronpa is the kind of game that just makes you lose faith in humanity and unalive yourself.
Ok but like miu and ryoma’s rebuttal showdown was telling the truth, ryoma told that the culprit aka the mastermind could’ve been sneaking on rantaro and then killing them, after that they went to hide themselves by going thru the bookcase door and almost got caught when kaede and the others saw the bookcase was closing. Now for miu, miu knew the culprit who killed tenko placed over a blade under the sheet and got stabbed without her knowing it. She also knew the second culprit in the second trial
Ok, but what if kibo IS the next protagonist in the next game-
DrS is shaking: *Everyone was protag.*
@@angelic4mimi
Eh?
No hate, but he didn’t really have much of a personality apart of running gag with Kokichi. We don’t need another Makoto
Keebo is dead
@no one he done exploded himself
1:00:00
I don’t know why I do this
You didn't use the truth blade when Tenko said "There *would have been water* everywhere" the 1st time. But decided to keep her dialogue going. Why?
I kept the argument going for all of the rebuttal showdowns where the weak spot is not their last line. Ryoma, Korekiyo 2, Monokubs 2, and Shuichi are the only times I used the truth blade the first time because the weak spot is in there last line of the argument.
@@Flintosta Yeah, but *why* you kept the arguments going is what I'm trying to ask.
@@laftrmastr It's so you hear their entire argument and all of their dialogue. Most of the time people use the truth blade the first time around and don't let them finish speaking. I did the same in the DR2 video with rebuttal showdowns.
@@Flintosta Thx 4 filling me in, man.
@@laftrmastr No problem!
Tenko Litteraly have the Worst Rebuttal Showdown ngl
Imagine Objecting It just for Himiko
Dang keebo really is chat
Look, I may not be the biggest fan of Angie, but oh my god, this:
0:08