I have an E Transit that I absolutely LOVE! The range on this is a lot better though the new E transit can fast charge much faster at 176kw. For local deliveries these vans are amazing. I would buy mine again in a second. I did 164 miles today and it cost me under $5 to fast charge it! Great video as always guys.
You either did not or you are intentionally omitting a factor or you are simply not telling the truth. Please explain how you paid less than $5 for 164 miles of electric power. (How many kwh used and how much you paid per kwh?) I suspect that Damidoo cannot be trusted! Prove me wrong.
@@underwaterdroneservices7292actually it was $1.13 for 28.1273 kWh at the ChargePoint on sunset. This particular station only charges $1.50/hr (for now as they are newish but I’ve heard it will be changing to a normal rate at some point in the future). With subscriptions to EVGo, EA, and EVCS that same 28 kWh would be somewhere between $6.75-$10. There are also a plethora of free level 2 and DC fast chargers in LA. Mostly I charge my 2022 E Transit at public ChargePoint level 2 chargers which are $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/ hr afterwards. A completely full charge has never cost me more than $16. I generally charge at EVCS for ¢.24/kwh or I look for free chargers. As I said I did 164 miles yesterday for under $5. People who are charging any EV without subscriptions to these companies are really over paying. I have a Tesla Model Y and a Hyundai Ioniq 5 as well and really have public charging dialed in. Granted Los Angeles is probably best use case for cheap available fast chargers. My point is I have an electric cargo van that I’ve put over 19k miles on in a year and I love it. It’s cheap to run, comfortable, strong, and easy. For me. I would most certainly buy this Mercedes van also though I think I’ll stick with Ford and get the new E Transit with an 89kwh pack.
@@underwaterdroneservices7292 sure there’s a ChargePoint dc fast charger by me that charges $1.50/hr. There are also free dc fast chargers and level 2 chargers around me in LA. Also with subscriptions to EA, EVGo, EVCS etc. the rates come down by a lot. I generally pay ¢.24/kwh with those subscriptions. Home charging is half that. So yes yesterday I used a ChargePoint dc fast charger and got 28.1723kw for a whopping $1.13. People that are using public chargers without subscriptions are doing it wrong and paying much more than they need to. I generally charge at level 2 ChargePoint chargers for $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/after that. I’ve never paid more than $13 fully charging at one. I have three EVs and public charge often. If you know what you are doing it’s cheap and easy. I’ve put 19,000 miles on my 22 E Transit in 13 months and I would buy it again in a split second. Everyone’s use case is different and for me this thing rips. I’d buy it again for sure. That being said I would also buy a new E Transit over this E Sprinter for a few reasons. Mainly it dc fast charges at 176kw max vs the Benz 115 and the lack of a pro power onboard for the Mercedes is lame. Even though the new Ford has an 89kwh pack vs the Benz 113kwh the faster dc charging on the Ford would be better for me personally. Super excited these vans even exist also. So from a real owner of one they kick ass and do serious work smoothly and super economically!
Max Regen is the only way to go!! Learn to drive an EV properly! This is the problem with society. We can’t change. This is the greatest change in our lifetimes! EVs are amazing. It’s worth extra $15k. Will pay for itself in lack of maintenance
I really like the idea of these rigs, in that ~250 miles of range is plenty to hop from one RV site to another RV campground and just charging off of the 240v, 30 amp campsite hook-up.
Except that campsites aren't equipped (electrically) to support pulling max amperage out of their site plugs all at the same time. They rely on things like people's AC cycling at random times each to spread out the loads to allow for as many plugs as they do.
@@jimjones-pz1tt LOL! Have you seen the government subsidies to oil companies? The US government pays far more of the total price of a gallon of gasoline than they subsidize to EV owners.
I think 250 miles is optimistic, because you won't normally charge to 100%. It's probably not enough if you want to go off grid camping. For going RV park to RV park, ok, should work.
Amazon is deploying solar on warehouse roofs and deploying EV vans anywhere it can. It’s saving it hHUNDREDS of millions of dollars a year (even when vans are more expensive) and the vans also have less downtime for maintenance so they need less vans. The bottom line is that as more of these are deployed and company who would NOT have EV vans will be in a major disadvantage and would eventually lose business and if their business is expediting/delivery, won’t be able to compete and will go bankrupt. For businesses, EVs are not just the future - it’s now. The transition is happening NOW.
Those panels and the charging equipment come out to millions of dollars. The transformers for large charging setups cost millions. The significant price difference, plus replacement batteries cost a small fortune, too. They ain’t saving ANYTHING going electric. Plus, this is a Sprinter. It’s going to be a rust pile in 5 years.
If you consider the 5/year depreciation of a business vehicle, the fuel and maintenance costs of an ICE vehicle, and the possible EV incentives, the cost differences pretty much evaporate. What you're left with is a nicer vehicle for your business.
@@Robert-cu9bm depends on your needs. If you are travelling hundreds of miles a day it is not for you. My company typically drives under 60 miles a day and at most 100 miles in a day.
@@Robert-cu9bm We have three campuses in the Minneapolis area and run an internal delivery service. We also have 8 charging facilities on site. These vehicles are perfect for our needs. Actually, a loading dock height truck as an additional type would also be great. We're in the process of swapping out our ICE campus security vehicles.
Nice thing is that it is a front charge location. Love that. Wish Brightdrop would move theirs. Big thing will be when these get the new log range batteries (may be next year???) . Then making an RV out of it will be practical. Cant wait!
I have no doubt that the throttle is programmed to be gentle. Companies don't want delivery guys driving them hard, and they get better economy by limiting the throttle. I really like the color.
Some of the last mile vans are covering less than 100 miles per day. These electric vans make a lot of sense for that application. If you are an electrician driving all over for service calls the electric vans simply won't get it done. It's good that there is an option.
In Europe that fuel cost would be double... ^^ I love these vans, I dont know why, but I have always loved vans like this... since I was a kid :D Guess it make sense, I also love big semi trucks. I remember Iveco Turbo Daily, massive Dually vans just like this that I'd see do deliveries, they looked so powerful and mean in the 90's here... I think they kinda started the trend of these XXL vans actually, I dont remember other companies doing it before them but I could be off. VW and others had vans ofc but the oversized ones I think is a trend that might have started with the Turbo Daily's. Also, when I get packages delivered home its actually in much smaller vans usually, we got a fairly new company here that only do electric vehicles and they are more VW Caddy sized things. Some of the drivers ruin the hole silent electric car trick by showing up in the neighborhood blasting music at 7 or 8 pm... not great! xD
STOP PUTTING THE CHARGER IN THE NOSE!!! BrightDrop get's it right 110%. More and more companies have safety standards that require people to back into parking spaces. As someone who designs and engineers that infrastructure these vans (Sprinter & E-Transit) make it difficult to meet their safety standard and design infrastructure.
Absolute hate driving nose first to plug in my Bolt. I find myself backing in and stretching the cable to the front😅, which is equally unsafe. But atleast collision liability decreases with my method.
@@AnonymousFreakYT even comes in three software modes that release more HP. Eco 100hp normal 150 HP and Sport 210+ HP. With eoth r the 68 or 89 kWh battery.
I've taken my E Transit camping and it has literally half the range of these vans. Put some WildPeak AT3Ws on and it funny enough didn't even affect my efficiency at all, it's just always pretty bad on the highway.
@@TheOutdoorBeerReview yeah I’ve found that 81mph chugs range faster than 3000lbs of cargo for sure. I’ll tell you in LA stop and go traffic the range is awesome haha
For that kinda money id take a silverado ev and tow a trailer for camping if needed. Double the battery more than double charging power, onboard power, frunk, autosteer, rear steer, awd. Even a aftermarket bed camperattetchment would be more bang for the buck, instead of converting the benz
I have not checked but if not already there should be several sizes to choose from, low and high roof, and different lengths, might even be a bigger version with dual heavy duty rears, not totally uncommon on vans like this.
I love my 4x4 diesel sprinter adventure van. I would absolutely trade it for an eSprinter IF it had a little more range and faster level 2 charging. MB is supposed to release a new version of the eSprinter for the 2027 model year.
@@Damidoo More payload would also help accommodate the weight of RV appliances and furnishings. MB said the next version would be more suitable for camper conversions. I like the idea of doing a lightweight conversion with this one instead of waiting.
What about towing? Throw some solar on top with a LightShip or the other small camper with solar/battery and motor drive assist and these things could probably go pretty far and boondock very comfortably on pure solar, Roman definitely should make you guys do it😁
This really sounded like an infomercial to me. Seems like you are trying to sell the van on its shortcomings. Just my opinion (perhaps that was not your intent, but….). This definitely seems like Mercedes is catering this to fleets. I considered a Sprinter some 7 years ago as a family/daily driving vehicle. They do ride and handle well. I test drove a 6 cylinder diesel. Very nice performance. Unfortunately, at that time they were are designed for family friendly safety features along with a good sounding radio system. And the height made it impossible to park in my garage. Lots of passenger seats but not very comfortable. I don’t understand the push towards noisy 4 cylinder engines that are turbo charged other than fuel economy. What is the towing capacity of the EV version?
Definitely a fleet vehicle. All the people wanting EV cargo vans to convert into camper vans are just too early. These early EV cargo vans are meant to be local fleet vehicles. And at that, they'll do great.
My 3.0 diesel v6 sprinter averaged 17-18 depending mostly on the season, so that's probably quite accurate if not slightly conservative. Sprinters are now a 4 cylinder diesel only if not the E version. They get pretty good mileage for the size of the vehicle.
@@Nick-im3sm Given the reputation that their modern diesels have as of late, I'd be seriously concerned about that little 2.0L four cylinder engine having anything close to a long lifespan pushing all that van around.
If you own a business that only requires 150 or so miles of travel per day, this would be perfect. You could make up that 15k cost just In gas savings in one year.
If you drove like 50k miles in a year sure, but I suspect most people or small businesses likely drive considerably less for the types of driving this would be suited for.
@jimjones-pz1tt Hertz lost money because people would rent Teslas to abuse them. The cost of repairing body damage is expensive. I'm talking about day in, day out driving. We have a 21 model 3 and a 22 bolt euv and both drive between 2000 to 2500 miles per month. If we were paying gas prices we would mot be able to do that.
@@jimjones-pz1ttgas cars are far more flammable and catch fire more frequently. However electric vehicle fires are harder to put out. But they actually have these cool blankets you just throw over the car that actually work for both types of cars and reduce the need for water/proximity to a hydrant. Hertz only lost money because they sold the cars, some accountant looked on a spreadsheet and said oh no we're losing money.... Then they lost the money once they sold them. Dumb corporate BS. They also couldn't realize the benefits of saving money on gas as they don't pay for it.
I'm with Andre. I'd love to convert one of these into a Class B RV. The vanlife thing has been a very real call to just simply enjoy a nomadic lifestyle and just be in a perpetual state of exploration. I for one am 107% DONE with ICE powered vehicles. 276 mile range (from 100% of course) is acceptable so long as there isn't some major range loss when it's set up as an RV. I'd love to get my hands on one just to see how it would handle my slow and chill in the right lane driving style for range. Our Ioniq 5 has seen 265 miles driven with the GOM indicating another 60 miles of range remaining on our long distance trips. Could this see the 300 mile mark given the same treatment?
ok. in germany, we are also building the HEERO on the basis of diesel sprinters. More power, more range, more towing capacity, ... and simply cooler and even more sustainable thanks to the circular economy ;)
There is no way these could be "overland" conversions based upon the cargo carrying capacity, which would have to include two retired people at 200 and 150 pounds, 45 gallons of fresh/grey/black at 350 pounds, a couple of solar panels, lithium batteries, awning, flooring, pots, pans, bedding cabinets, etc. You would be over the CCC before grandma and grandpa even got in to drive it.
Overall this is a pretty nice van. Not overly attractive, but not a cheap piece of junk either. I really like how quiet it is overall going down the road. Will I be buying one? That’s a hard NO! Especially in that color. They had a sparkly metallic root beer brown a few years ago that I really liked though.
Let me explain why it cost more... simple.. because they are being made for the commercial market first thus.. they give discounts to commercial buyers... buy 20 EVVs pay around 2/3rds the price of one... got me...
You two are really pretty boys. Always nice to see. But in this case I would have liked more information about the interior and especially the functions. Starting with the driving modes up to the exact explanation of the equipment and finally, of course, real consumption. What was happening? Best regards. 😊
Yep is on top of my list, I'm loving it so far the eSprinter, the most i do per day is about 180 miles to 230 , this vam would do perfect but the price tag is what's stopping me from getting it, is perfect for my needs and i have my house running out of solar plus growing the system to charge an EV , i won't have enough per day for charging the van at night but probably will do enough for my needs during the day than Sundays keeping it day and night till full charge , and maybe twice a week i have to borrow electricity from the grid , actually no bad and probably still saving me a lot of Doug.
Nathen .. I can’t believe you’re going to California with the the views you have about vehicles, I sure wish you were coming to Texas. It would make a lot more sense. Good luck 🍀
Did you guys mention how much a 113kwh charge would cost where you live? Where I live electricity costs $0.085/kwh. That's $9.61. My gas powered truck costs me $6.00 per day to go to work. Seems like you guys are intentionally leaving out just how cheap electricity is compared to gas or diesel.
You have dead cheap electricity then. It's not that cheap in many areas, especially urban areas where an EV works best. Out where they are they still save on fuel costs by driving an EV, but I believe their electricity is 3-4x what you pay, and public chargers can approach gasoline in cost.
You don’t do math good. Let do some math, which will undoubtedly exceed your ability. If your range is 150 miles, in your electric van and it cost $9.61 to fully charge (which you never do), then it would cost you 0.15 per mile. If my daily round trip is 50 miles, that works out to $7.50. The ICE version would cost (assuming 15MPG and gas is $3.40p/g), would cost you over $11.33. There is no scenario where ICE is cheaper. So it seems you are math illiterate and a liar.
Price is range from like .08 to 80 cents in the US. It's still generally cheaper, but then people will complain they made electricity look better by using cheaper rates... Even though the averaged the diesel price
if you electricity costs 0.085 $/kWh, and have a daily cost of $6.00, in this van you could drive like 170mi for that money (6.00/.085 = 70kWh ; 110kWh = 270mi => 70/110*270 = 170) How much you drive on a daily basis? 170mi?
@@ikocheratcrGasoline costs $5.61/ gallon where I live and diesel is more expensive. I have a short drive to work and can make a tank last almost 3 weeks in my truck (f150). The fillup ranges between $130-$160. That's several months worth of electricity. But most electric vehicles that have the capability that i want/need are $100k+. So I will struggle on till my truck rusts away to nothing and maybe there will be low mileage/cost used electrics available at that time.
This looks like a cool alternative with the turbo diesel but since there so much space for a drunk hopefully they made a e sprinter with a drunk for personal use
in love that color but lets face it, a cargo can should and usually will only be like white, black, grey. An EV? good for around town, mebe but not from port to town. Or county to county
The grid is only an issue if they start selling millions of these things, they aren't so its a non issue at this point. Also solar is dirt cheap and amtrak joe will throw 30% savings at you on your tax return so why not.
It's up high, above and behind the bumper. Any crash serious enough to seriously damage that charge port would have put an ICE van completely out of commission.
@@AnonymousFreakYT i dont know, i mean i live in texas, most vehicles here are big trucks. They can easily damage the charging port if they hit the rear end of a pickup truck, maybe even an SUV. Like a USB-C charger - just takes a broken end to prevent you from charging your phone. I mean your phone works, but cant charge it anymore. how much more is it to replace that plug than say a radiator on an ICE you know.
That color is beautiful. Did I see a De Dion axle on that thing? Anyway, I could see that being a potential weekend overlander. What I think would be cool though is a cutaway version with a flatbed as a farm truck. ;)
@@Simon-dm8zv oh yes I remember now. We have cars that will do 40 50 mpg and also vans that do 40 50 mpg. How come the cars get far better miles per kWh than the vans. If we can make an ice van that will exceed 40mpg than we should be able to get an EV van to be similar to a car.
@@HA05GER Somehow your numbers are off. These diesel sprinters (and equally sized vans) never do 40 mpg. A Sprinter gets 25 mpg on a good day. 2.2 miles per kWh for the electric one is very decent.
I saw a Ford eTransit the other day with solar panels on the roof! Looked like it might have been a "triple stack" so they could unfold to be an awning on either side tripling the amount of power input versus just covering the roof; but of course can only charge while parked with plenty of room to the sides that way.
This is actually in my mind for my desired build. All systems basically tap from the high voltage battery, and I'd want the highest power/efficiency panels money can buy on every available inch of the roof space beyond what's needed for rooftop heat pump. Play it right, and you could get small range boosts and trickle charging ability to at least offset the draw from the "house". If one is efficient enough, maybe even put some back in the pack for driving back out to civilization.
That rear view "mirror" camera view is _TERRIBLE_! Andre isn't short, and he wasn't right next to the vehicle, and you could just see the top of his head and his hands. A whole freaking Ford Edge could be invisible if it was stopped behind you at a stop light!
Why a hybrid diesel? The overwhelming majority of delivery/service vans drive well under 150 miles a day. Pure electric saves a ton of money, with zero ICE maintenance. Sure, if you want to use one as a camper van, you don't want pure electric due to limited range and relatively bad charge curve, but those don't matter to fleets of local delivery/service companies. Geek Squad doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, Amazon doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, my local plumber doesn't put >150 miles on his vans per day.
@@AnonymousFreakYTI have a sprinter diesel and a Prius, they are both great, just saying what if they combined it. Get great city driving and great highway miles.
You have to stop at a gas station to fill up a diesel. Most electric vehicles never need to stop because they charge when they're parked at home. And when you add in the fact your employees aren't getting paid to go to the gas station...
@@matt45540and don't forget they have to manage a billing system for employees to buy gas with that they them have to audit. Eliminating that alone will save them thousands.
@Simon-dm8zv I love my ebike, but the battery is its downfall. When batteries charge in 5 minutes, last for 20 years, and don't catch on fire, I'm all in on electric vehicles.
@@johnminichielli8957 Nobody needs 5 minute charging, and this won’t be possible anytime soon. These LFP batteries will likely outlast the rest of the vehicle. And no, it won’t catch fire.
It must be a Colorado thing the necessity of heated steering wheels. I’ve certainly burned my hands on hot steering wheels I’ve never heard of an incident of frostbite from a cold one 😂
@@jeffhaddox2239Man up and go without AC, a dishwasher, a stove, microwave, shoes, the internet, TV, and a refrigerator. Real men don’t need ANY comforts of modern society.
You snowflakes are sure touchy about your heated steering wheels, I didn’t realize so many of you were getting your tongues stuck on the steering wheels in the winter🤣 it seems to be greatly under reported, and soon the NTSB will regulate it as mandatory on all vehicles further driving up new car prices🤣
What so many totally over look is.. everyday battery tech advances by leaps and bounds.. In a year this van will have AWD and four motors with 1500 HP 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds and a 410 mile range on a full charge to 20 percent ...
This review was written edited and produced done by A D H D anonymous. Calculates diesel cost and proceeds to review the interior before finishing the comparison to EV costs. Andre seldom makes actual contributions to content on this channel. He just reacts to stuff in an uninformative way.
Nathan needs to stop acting so goofy, it's distracting. Don't try to entertain folks, it's bad acting, just be yourselves, or a cleaned up version at least
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Duh obviously, the problem is it's not funny. The best two are Anton and Roman, Nathan just acts silly and I don't find it funny, but maybe you have a stupid sense of humor.
@@JD-yx7be so. Things aren’t that expensive for manufacturing. It’s the end user that suffers. Here I’ll give you an example. A bag of 50lb flour costs 14.50-17$ yet the bakery or store will charge anywhere from 5-8$ for a Loaf of bread A bag of flour can get you probably around 40-60 loafs probably more Now tell me why you think it’s not 1994 lmao. Greed is very different than cost its self. 71k for this thing is a rip off they didn’t even create a new product just slapped a battery with a shitty motor and called it a day. In 1994 you would have bought a car well that runs probably still till this day. Today for an example a hummer ev can’t last more than 4 years and has tech that’s so old a Tesla looks like it’s something from star wars.
i work as a mailman and every time i see an EV FedEx or Amazon van i always get jealous EVs are perfect for these types of jobs
You should be getting electric soon!
I have an E Transit that I absolutely LOVE! The range on this is a lot better though the new E transit can fast charge much faster at 176kw. For local deliveries these vans are amazing. I would buy mine again in a second. I did 164 miles today and it cost me under $5 to fast charge it! Great video as always guys.
You either did not or you are intentionally omitting a factor or you are simply not telling the truth. Please explain how you paid less than $5 for 164 miles of electric power. (How many kwh used and how much you paid per kwh?) I suspect that Damidoo cannot be trusted! Prove me wrong.
@@underwaterdroneservices7292actually it was $1.13 for 28.1273 kWh at the ChargePoint on sunset. This particular station only charges $1.50/hr (for now as they are newish but I’ve heard it will be changing to a normal rate at some point in the future). With subscriptions to EVGo, EA, and EVCS that same 28 kWh would be somewhere between $6.75-$10. There are also a plethora of free level 2 and DC fast chargers in LA. Mostly I charge my 2022 E Transit at public ChargePoint level 2 chargers which are $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/ hr afterwards. A completely full charge has never cost me more than $16. I generally charge at EVCS for ¢.24/kwh or I look for free chargers. As I said I did 164 miles yesterday for under $5. People who are charging any EV without subscriptions to these companies are really over paying. I have a Tesla Model Y and a Hyundai Ioniq 5 as well and really have public charging dialed in. Granted Los Angeles is probably best use case for cheap available fast chargers. My point is I have an electric cargo van that I’ve put over 19k miles on in a year and I love it. It’s cheap to run, comfortable, strong, and easy. For me. I would most certainly buy this Mercedes van also though I think I’ll stick with Ford and get the new E Transit with an 89kwh pack.
Damn people hating on success already
@@underwaterdroneservices7292 sure there’s a ChargePoint dc fast charger by me that charges $1.50/hr. There are also free dc fast chargers and level 2 chargers around me in LA. Also with subscriptions to EA, EVGo, EVCS etc. the rates come down by a lot. I generally pay ¢.24/kwh with those subscriptions. Home charging is half that. So yes yesterday I used a ChargePoint dc fast charger and got 28.1723kw for a whopping $1.13. People that are using public chargers without subscriptions are doing it wrong and paying much more than they need to. I generally charge at level 2 ChargePoint chargers for $1.50/hr for the first two hours then $2.50/after that. I’ve never paid more than $13 fully charging at one. I have three EVs and public charge often. If you know what you are doing it’s cheap and easy. I’ve put 19,000 miles on my 22 E Transit in 13 months and I would buy it again in a split second. Everyone’s use case is different and for me this thing rips. I’d buy it again for sure. That being said I would also buy a new E Transit over this E Sprinter for a few reasons. Mainly it dc fast charges at 176kw max vs the Benz 115 and the lack of a pro power onboard for the Mercedes is lame. Even though the new Ford has an 89kwh pack vs the Benz 113kwh the faster dc charging on the Ford would be better for me personally. Super excited these vans even exist also. So from a real owner of one they kick ass and do serious work smoothly and super economically!
Max Regen is the only way to go!! Learn to drive an EV properly! This is the problem with society. We can’t change. This is the greatest change in our lifetimes! EVs are amazing. It’s worth extra $15k. Will pay for itself in lack of maintenance
I really like the idea of these rigs, in that ~250 miles of range is plenty to hop from one RV site to another RV campground and just charging off of the 240v, 30 amp campsite hook-up.
Except that campsites aren't equipped (electrically) to support pulling max amperage out of their site plugs all at the same time. They rely on things like people's AC cycling at random times each to spread out the loads to allow for as many plugs as they do.
@@Snerdles Yep. I tow a trailer with my Rivian, and many campgrounds are now putting in their rules "no EV charging."
@@jimjones-pz1tt should we get rid of the mortgage tax reduction too?
@@jimjones-pz1tt LOL! Have you seen the government subsidies to oil companies? The US government pays far more of the total price of a gallon of gasoline than they subsidize to EV owners.
I think 250 miles is optimistic, because you won't normally charge to 100%. It's probably not enough if you want to go off grid camping. For going RV park to RV park, ok, should work.
Amazon is deploying solar on warehouse roofs and deploying EV vans anywhere it can. It’s saving it hHUNDREDS of millions of dollars a year (even when vans are more expensive) and the vans also have less downtime for maintenance so they need less vans.
The bottom line is that as more of these are deployed and company who would NOT have EV vans will be in a major disadvantage and would eventually lose business and if their business is expediting/delivery, won’t be able to compete and will go bankrupt.
For businesses, EVs are not just the future - it’s now. The transition is happening NOW.
i feel like something big is being omitted or overlooked about what u said. hmm
The future is electric. PURE ELECTRIC. Not hydrogen or hybrid.
@@rickjames5998 like what?
Those panels and the charging equipment come out to millions of dollars. The transformers for large charging setups cost millions. The significant price difference, plus replacement batteries cost a small fortune, too. They ain’t saving ANYTHING going electric. Plus, this is a Sprinter. It’s going to be a rust pile in 5 years.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason, agree, without a doubt.
I do love the color. I miss those 90s teals!
If you consider the 5/year depreciation of a business vehicle, the fuel and maintenance costs of an ICE vehicle, and the possible EV incentives, the cost differences pretty much evaporate. What you're left with is a nicer vehicle for your business.
You're left with a business vehicle that is highly restrictive.
You're limited by range, charging, load.
@@Robert-cu9bm depends on your needs. If you are travelling hundreds of miles a day it is not for you. My company typically drives under 60 miles a day and at most 100 miles in a day.
@@Robert-cu9bm We have three campuses in the Minneapolis area and run an internal delivery service. We also have 8 charging facilities on site. These vehicles are perfect for our needs. Actually, a loading dock height truck as an additional type would also be great. We're in the process of swapping out our ICE campus security vehicles.
@@Robert-cu9bmwould not be limited for alot of multidrop couriers.
@@Robert-cu9bm.Not really, heaps of vans only travel less than 250 KMs/day.
I drove an eSprinter 350 miles over several days and I loved it.
Range extender be good or hybrid setup for rural carriers
Love the high tech composite leaf springs, just like a 1984 Corvette.
It a work vehicle not a sports car
And the Astro van
@@JD-yx7be So? Both vehicles have composite leaf springs. Can you name another?
Nice thing is that it is a front charge location. Love that. Wish Brightdrop would move theirs. Big thing will be when these get the new log range batteries (may be next year???) . Then making an RV out of it will be practical. Cant wait!
I have no doubt that the throttle is programmed to be gentle. Companies don't want delivery guys driving them hard, and they get better economy by limiting the throttle. I really like the color.
Some of the last mile vans are covering less than 100 miles per day. These electric vans make a lot of sense for that application. If you are an electrician driving all over for service calls the electric vans simply won't get it done. It's good that there is an option.
I do my service calls in a Model S but if I carried more equipment, a Rivian R1S, R1T, Ford Lightning, Chevy Silverado EV... would all work well
Why is there no door from the cab to the cargo area?
In Europe that fuel cost would be double... ^^
I love these vans, I dont know why, but I have always loved vans like this... since I was a kid :D
Guess it make sense, I also love big semi trucks.
I remember Iveco Turbo Daily, massive Dually vans just like this that I'd see do deliveries, they looked so powerful and mean in the 90's here...
I think they kinda started the trend of these XXL vans actually, I dont remember other companies doing it before them but I could be off.
VW and others had vans ofc but the oversized ones I think is a trend that might have started with the Turbo Daily's.
Also, when I get packages delivered home its actually in much smaller vans usually, we got a fairly new company here that only do electric vehicles and they are more VW Caddy sized things.
Some of the drivers ruin the hole silent electric car trick by showing up in the neighborhood blasting music at 7 or 8 pm... not great! xD
I think I've seen manufacturers put loads like this in the back of vans on other channels too. Maybe they do it to make the ride better
I love Nathan! I hope with the move to Cali is not going to take him off the channels! you're cool
Andre!
STOP PUTTING THE CHARGER IN THE NOSE!!! BrightDrop get's it right 110%. More and more companies have safety standards that require people to back into parking spaces. As someone who designs and engineers that infrastructure these vans (Sprinter & E-Transit) make it difficult to meet their safety standard and design infrastructure.
Absolute hate driving nose first to plug in my Bolt. I find myself backing in and stretching the cable to the front😅, which is equally unsafe. But atleast collision liability decreases with my method.
@@MediaDevice01 multiple studies have been done to show that backing in to parking stalls is safer which is why I do the same on my bolt.
The new E transit puts it in the signal light area passenger side for a Tesla charger use
@@arenjay3278 No it doesn't. It's still in the nose. At least in the 2024, and Ford hasn't made any announcement about the 2025 yet.
@@AnonymousFreakYT even comes in three software modes that release more HP. Eco 100hp normal 150 HP and Sport 210+ HP. With eoth r the 68 or 89 kWh battery.
Better rear view mirror than a Cybertruck!
And better looking.
Nathan & Andre, great job.
No chasis cab yet though correct? I’d be in the market if that was an available with a service body.
I've taken my E Transit camping and it has literally half the range of these vans. Put some WildPeak AT3Ws on and it funny enough didn't even affect my efficiency at all, it's just always pretty bad on the highway.
Pushing a box into 70mph wind is hard.
Try dropping your speed to 55mph on the highway
@@jimjones-pz1tt just ad hominem attacks nothing of substance to argue
@@TheOutdoorBeerReview yeah I’ve found that 81mph chugs range faster than 3000lbs of cargo for sure. I’ll tell you in LA stop and go traffic the range is awesome haha
Make ‘em do that solar panel recharge test Roman. That sounds cool.
Looks perfect for our upcoming campervan conversion!
For that kinda money id take a silverado ev and tow a trailer for camping if needed. Double the battery more than double charging power, onboard power, frunk, autosteer, rear steer, awd. Even a aftermarket bed camperattetchment would be more bang for the buck, instead of converting the benz
Hey, a digital rearview mirror....what the cyber truck doesn't have 🤭
I was wondering if Mercedes has a window passenger model of this van?
Ironically diesels had issues in Colorado due to cold weather
I hope they do a small version, same range , cool video guys
I have not checked but if not already there should be several sizes to choose from, low and high roof, and different lengths, might even be a bigger version with dual heavy duty rears, not totally uncommon on vans like this.
No they can't fit the 110kWh battery in the smaller size, max is around 80kWh.
That is because they use LFP batteries which are a bit bulkier.
You hit it straight Nathen. Choice!
I love my 4x4 diesel sprinter adventure van. I would absolutely trade it for an eSprinter IF it had a little more range and faster level 2 charging. MB is supposed to release a new version of the eSprinter for the 2027 model year.
@@webdbbt ya I’m waiting for an awd with a little more range before I make one into a camper 🤘🏼⚡️
@@Damidoo More payload would also help accommodate the weight of RV appliances and furnishings. MB said the next version would be more suitable for camper conversions. I like the idea of doing a lightweight conversion with this one instead of waiting.
Fossil fuels are cooking the planet and diesel exhaust is toxic to humans.
What about towing? Throw some solar on top with a LightShip or the other small camper with solar/battery and motor drive assist and these things could probably go pretty far and boondock very comfortably on pure solar, Roman definitely should make you guys do it😁
This really sounded like an infomercial to me. Seems like you are trying to sell the van on its shortcomings. Just my opinion (perhaps that was not your intent, but….). This definitely seems like Mercedes is catering this to fleets. I considered a Sprinter some 7 years ago as a family/daily driving vehicle. They do ride and handle well. I test drove a 6 cylinder diesel. Very nice performance. Unfortunately, at that time they were are designed for family friendly safety features along with a good sounding radio system. And the height made it impossible to park in my garage. Lots of passenger seats but not very comfortable. I don’t understand the push towards noisy 4 cylinder engines that are turbo charged other than fuel economy. What is the towing capacity of the EV version?
Definitely a fleet vehicle. All the people wanting EV cargo vans to convert into camper vans are just too early. These early EV cargo vans are meant to be local fleet vehicles. And at that, they'll do great.
Good video. Thank you.
I see these everywhere in Europe
EVs in the long run are the cheapest it's just a fact guys
Not for everyone, we are in trades, and we charge twice a day. An hour of the employee is more than diesel van expense...
17mpg is probably optimistic. More like 12-14. That's a big percentage difference.
My 3.0 diesel v6 sprinter averaged 17-18 depending mostly on the season, so that's probably quite accurate if not slightly conservative. Sprinters are now a 4 cylinder diesel only if not the E version. They get pretty good mileage for the size of the vehicle.
@@Nick-im3sm nice. We had a sprinter class c with the 3.0 and 14 was tops on highway.
@@MDillonEV Ahh class C is probably why. Mine was just a van. Adding an RV box on the back kills fuel mileage on anything really.
@@Nick-im3sm Given the reputation that their modern diesels have as of late, I'd be seriously concerned about that little 2.0L four cylinder engine having anything close to a long lifespan pushing all that van around.
@@Nick-im3sm This would need to be a class B. Those keep the "house" inside the original body dimensions
If you own a business that only requires 150 or so miles of travel per day, this would be perfect. You could make up that 15k cost just In gas savings in one year.
If you drove like 50k miles in a year sure, but I suspect most people or small businesses likely drive considerably less for the types of driving this would be suited for.
Electricity costs money also
@@devengudinas1649it cost less than gas. Didn’t you get the memo?
@jimjones-pz1tt Hertz lost money because people would rent Teslas to abuse them. The cost of repairing body damage is expensive. I'm talking about day in, day out driving. We have a 21 model 3 and a 22 bolt euv and both drive between 2000 to 2500 miles per month. If we were paying gas prices we would mot be able to do that.
@@jimjones-pz1ttgas cars are far more flammable and catch fire more frequently. However electric vehicle fires are harder to put out. But they actually have these cool blankets you just throw over the car that actually work for both types of cars and reduce the need for water/proximity to a hydrant. Hertz only lost money because they sold the cars, some accountant looked on a spreadsheet and said oh no we're losing money.... Then they lost the money once they sold them. Dumb corporate BS. They also couldn't realize the benefits of saving money on gas as they don't pay for it.
I'm with Andre. I'd love to convert one of these into a Class B RV. The vanlife thing has been a very real call to just simply enjoy a nomadic lifestyle and just be in a perpetual state of exploration. I for one am 107% DONE with ICE powered vehicles. 276 mile range (from 100% of course) is acceptable so long as there isn't some major range loss when it's set up as an RV. I'd love to get my hands on one just to see how it would handle my slow and chill in the right lane driving style for range. Our Ioniq 5 has seen 265 miles driven with the GOM indicating another 60 miles of range remaining on our long distance trips. Could this see the 300 mile mark given the same treatment?
There would b major range loss. Maybe you could add some batteries while doing the conversion
@pixelfairy Possibly. I would intend on sitting with someone smarter than me to vet out what I want to do.
@@pixelfairy It won’t be that bad as weight barely impacts range at constant speed.
Love Nathan by his self, and I like Andre, but those 2 together is the best.
Guess I may have missed it, what happened to Andrei’s Buhanka Van?
cant get it passed on emissions
ok. in germany, we are also building the HEERO on the basis of diesel sprinters. More power, more range, more towing capacity, ... and simply cooler and even more sustainable thanks to the circular economy ;)
Definitely van-life material.
Build your hub at the top of a hill, load up full, drive back empty.
Edison motors are thinking that way. Building their timber truck.
Install onspot chains for snow country
There is no way these could be "overland" conversions based upon the cargo carrying capacity, which would have to include two retired people at 200 and 150 pounds, 45 gallons of fresh/grey/black at 350 pounds, a couple of solar panels, lithium batteries, awning, flooring, pots, pans, bedding cabinets, etc. You would be over the CCC before grandma and grandpa even got in to drive it.
How much ?
Overall this is a pretty nice van. Not overly attractive, but not a cheap piece of junk either. I really like how quiet it is overall going down the road. Will I be buying one? That’s a hard NO! Especially in that color. They had a sparkly metallic root beer brown a few years ago that I really liked though.
Let me explain why it cost more... simple.. because they are being made for the commercial market first thus.. they give discounts to commercial buyers... buy 20 EVVs pay around 2/3rds the price of one... got me...
It's a good van
You two are really pretty boys. Always nice to see. But in this case I would have liked more information about the interior and especially the functions. Starting with the driving modes up to the exact explanation of the equipment and finally, of course, real consumption. What was happening? Best regards. 😊
This seems like great range for most couries doing multible drops.
Cheers guys
What range did you get?
Lol. Geekin' out (in a good way). 😂
Yep is on top of my list, I'm loving it so far the eSprinter, the most i do per day is about 180 miles to 230 , this vam would do perfect but the price tag is what's stopping me from getting it, is perfect for my needs and i have my house running out of solar plus growing the system to charge an EV , i won't have enough per day for charging the van at night but probably will do enough for my needs during the day than Sundays keeping it day and night till full charge , and maybe twice a week i have to borrow electricity from the grid , actually no bad and probably still saving me a lot of Doug.
I think that color is beautiful; coincidentally that is the color of my 2024 diesel. I average 28.1 according to Fuelly, by the way.
I paid 3:24 a gallon in Schuyler nebraska
Needs a Vehicle to load power outlet. 110 or 230 volt.
One question to think about is how many miles per day. It’s less than 10 hours to charge if you drive fewer miles.
Nathen .. I can’t believe you’re going to California with the the views you have about vehicles, I sure wish you were coming to Texas. It would make a lot more sense. Good luck 🍀
Texas sucks!
Did you guys mention how much a 113kwh charge would cost where you live? Where I live electricity costs $0.085/kwh. That's $9.61. My gas powered truck costs me $6.00 per day to go to work. Seems like you guys are intentionally leaving out just how cheap electricity is compared to gas or diesel.
You have dead cheap electricity then.
It's not that cheap in many areas, especially urban areas where an EV works best.
Out where they are they still save on fuel costs by driving an EV, but I believe their electricity is 3-4x what you pay, and public chargers can approach gasoline in cost.
You don’t do math good.
Let do some math, which will undoubtedly exceed your ability.
If your range is 150 miles, in your electric van and it cost $9.61 to fully charge (which you never do), then it would cost you 0.15 per mile.
If my daily round trip is 50 miles, that works out to $7.50.
The ICE version would cost (assuming 15MPG and gas is $3.40p/g), would cost you over $11.33. There is no scenario where ICE is cheaper.
So it seems you are math illiterate and a liar.
Price is range from like .08 to 80 cents in the US. It's still generally cheaper, but then people will complain they made electricity look better by using cheaper rates... Even though the averaged the diesel price
if you electricity costs 0.085 $/kWh, and have a daily cost of $6.00, in this van you could drive like 170mi for that money
(6.00/.085 = 70kWh ; 110kWh = 270mi => 70/110*270 = 170)
How much you drive on a daily basis? 170mi?
@@ikocheratcrGasoline costs $5.61/ gallon where I live and diesel is more expensive. I have a short drive to work and can make a tank last almost 3 weeks in my truck (f150). The fillup ranges between $130-$160. That's several months worth of electricity. But most electric vehicles that have the capability that i want/need are $100k+. So I will struggle on till my truck rusts away to nothing and maybe there will be low mileage/cost used electrics available at that time.
This looks like a cool alternative with the turbo diesel but since there so much space for a drunk hopefully they made a e sprinter with a drunk for personal use
A drunk?
@@DigikidthevoiceofreasonMake my drunk for personal use a redhead with cute freckles.
TFL going to their favorite sandwich shop.
ANOTHER TFL channel. my god
Andrea 63 we didn't know that
in love that color but lets face it, a cargo can should and usually will only be like white, black, grey. An EV? good for around town, mebe but not from port to town. Or county to county
I have six cross country EV trips under my belt. You still have to plan your trip, but it's otherwise easily done.
The proliferation of home AC is the grid’s biggest issue and nobody gives a 💩
The grid is only an issue if they start selling millions of these things, they aren't so its a non issue at this point. Also solar is dirt cheap and amtrak joe will throw 30% savings at you on your tax return so why not.
Tesla van soon folks.
EVan Bookdock Challenge.
i think that is the worst spot to put the charging port on. Small front crash and there goes it.
It's up high, above and behind the bumper. Any crash serious enough to seriously damage that charge port would have put an ICE van completely out of commission.
@@AnonymousFreakYT i dont know, i mean i live in texas, most vehicles here are big trucks. They can easily damage the charging port if they hit the rear end of a pickup truck, maybe even an SUV. Like a USB-C charger - just takes a broken end to prevent you from charging your phone. I mean your phone works, but cant charge it anymore. how much more is it to replace that plug than say a radiator on an ICE you know.
Prolly not for that serious overlander
But I could see this be used as usable living space
It's $100k expensive but still an option for some people
That color is beautiful. Did I see a De Dion axle on that thing? Anyway, I could see that being a potential weekend overlander. What I think would be cool though is a cutaway version with a flatbed as a farm truck. ;)
too early for 1080p, my bad :)
Why no videos of the E Sprinter 144' 113kwh yet? Are Florida Dealers going to mark up? What can I expect in rebates here?
Sorry guys, but cows aren’t endangered and there’s no clean diesel 🤷🏻♂️
If I had the cash I would get hydrogen 😂
Do host follow the topics they raised? At least to 2 topics were not finished. So anoying. Closed video in the middle.
I domt get why electric vans are so in efficient. In an ice theyll still fetch 40mpg but in an ev efficiency is half a car if not less.
Half a car?
@@Simon-dm8zv I meant to say half an ice
@@HA05GER this van is actually very efficient
@@Simon-dm8zv oh yes I remember now. We have cars that will do 40 50 mpg and also vans that do 40 50 mpg. How come the cars get far better miles per kWh than the vans. If we can make an ice van that will exceed 40mpg than we should be able to get an EV van to be similar to a car.
@@HA05GER Somehow your numbers are off. These diesel sprinters (and equally sized vans) never do 40 mpg. A Sprinter gets 25 mpg on a good day. 2.2 miles per kWh for the electric one is very decent.
You guys need to step back from the all you can eat buffets!
You’ll thank me later!
It will also increase the driving range :D
just tack on a solar panel on top... Infinite power. Just super slow tho hahaha
I saw a Ford eTransit the other day with solar panels on the roof! Looked like it might have been a "triple stack" so they could unfold to be an awning on either side tripling the amount of power input versus just covering the roof; but of course can only charge while parked with plenty of room to the sides that way.
Unfortunately the closed source firmware on the van probably wouldn't allow that. Stupid proprietary designs
This is actually in my mind for my desired build. All systems basically tap from the high voltage battery, and I'd want the highest power/efficiency panels money can buy on every available inch of the roof space beyond what's needed for rooftop heat pump. Play it right, and you could get small range boosts and trickle charging ability to at least offset the draw from the "house". If one is efficient enough, maybe even put some back in the pack for driving back out to civilization.
That rear view "mirror" camera view is _TERRIBLE_! Andre isn't short, and he wasn't right next to the vehicle, and you could just see the top of his head and his hands.
A whole freaking Ford Edge could be invisible if it was stopped behind you at a stop light!
👍👍👍
No thanks
Keep paying the price then
The post office the UPS FedX etc.. will purchase thousands of these ... so in about 5 years you cn buy one for a lot lot lot less
Why not a hybrid diesel? Just saying.
Why a hybrid diesel? The overwhelming majority of delivery/service vans drive well under 150 miles a day. Pure electric saves a ton of money, with zero ICE maintenance.
Sure, if you want to use one as a camper van, you don't want pure electric due to limited range and relatively bad charge curve, but those don't matter to fleets of local delivery/service companies. Geek Squad doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, Amazon doesn't put >150 miles on their vans per day, my local plumber doesn't put >150 miles on his vans per day.
Why ask such a stupid question? Just saying
I think you will see it with ram promaster first
@@AnonymousFreakYTI have a sprinter diesel and a Prius, they are both great, just saying what if they combined it. Get great city driving and great highway miles.
10min to fill diesel? 🤣🤣
You have to stop at a gas station to fill up a diesel. Most electric vehicles never need to stop because they charge when they're parked at home. And when you add in the fact your employees aren't getting paid to go to the gas station...
@@matt45540and don't forget they have to manage a billing system for employees to buy gas with that they them have to audit. Eliminating that alone will save them thousands.
Love the color, hate the E
You will love the E
@Simon-dm8zv I love my ebike, but the battery is its downfall. When batteries charge in 5 minutes, last for 20 years, and don't catch on fire, I'm all in on electric vehicles.
@@johnminichielli8957 Nobody needs 5 minute charging, and this won’t be possible anytime soon. These LFP batteries will likely outlast the rest of the vehicle. And no, it won’t catch fire.
So it's just a lazy mod.
It must be a Colorado thing the necessity of heated steering wheels. I’ve certainly burned my hands on hot steering wheels I’ve never heard of an incident of frostbite from a cold one 😂
A heated wheel would be nice when it's -15f or cooler so you can drive without gloves.
Heated steering wheels have been a thing for over 50 years. You should catch up with current events
@@stgeorgee man up and buy some gloves 🧤
@@jeffhaddox2239Man up and go without AC, a dishwasher, a stove, microwave, shoes, the internet, TV, and a refrigerator. Real men don’t need ANY comforts of modern society.
You snowflakes are sure touchy about your heated steering wheels, I didn’t realize so many of you were getting your tongues stuck on the steering wheels in the winter🤣 it seems to be greatly under reported, and soon the NTSB will regulate it as mandatory on all vehicles further driving up new car prices🤣
Not good electric van.
It's big problem.
It’s actually pretty great
What so many totally over look is.. everyday battery tech advances by leaps and bounds.. In a year this van will have AWD and four motors with 1500 HP 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds and a 410 mile range on a full charge to 20 percent ...
Convert it. Campsites have free charging haha
I call them EVVs... lol get it...
If you order 50 of these you pay a lot lot lot less,, ya feel me,
This review was written edited and produced done by A D H D anonymous. Calculates diesel cost and proceeds to review the interior before finishing the comparison to EV costs. Andre seldom makes actual contributions to content on this channel. He just reacts to stuff in an uninformative way.
Nathan needs to stop acting so goofy, it's distracting. Don't try to entertain folks, it's bad acting, just be yourselves, or a cleaned up version at least
No
Wrong. Humor is a necessity.
If you don’t like it, you can find another channel that fits your lack of humor.
This is UA-cam, not CSPAN.
@@Digikidthevoiceofreason Duh obviously, the problem is it's not funny. The best two are Anton and Roman, Nathan just acts silly and I don't find it funny, but maybe you have a stupid sense of humor.
@@NathanDAdlen OK, don't mean to offend by the way, just giving honest feedback not to try to hard.
I can’t see this costing Mercedes-Benz more then 30ish k to make this thing.
It is not 1994 anymore
@@JD-yx7be so. Things aren’t that expensive for manufacturing. It’s the end user that suffers. Here I’ll give you an example. A bag of 50lb flour costs 14.50-17$ yet the bakery or store will charge anywhere from 5-8$ for a
Loaf of bread A bag of flour can get you probably around 40-60 loafs probably more Now tell me why you think it’s not 1994 lmao. Greed is very different than cost its self. 71k for this thing is a rip off they didn’t even create a new product just slapped a battery with a shitty motor and called it a day. In 1994 you would have bought a car well that runs probably still till this day. Today for an example a hummer ev can’t last more than 4 years and has tech that’s so old a Tesla looks like it’s something from star wars.
@@insomniac2446 a bakery has to pay for the rent, employees, taxes, utilities
Worst color I've even seen on a vehicle.
Nah. I’m tired of seeing black, white, and grey everything. It’s nice to see something more fun for once.