And here, we hear the Datron M8 Cube sing the song of its people. A beautiful serenade that is sure to attract the females of its species. Truly marvelous.
Can you make a photo of the drive/linear guide setup that drives the gantry? It's on both sides of the table, under it. The chip tray needs to be removed to access the site. I'm building something similar and it would be of massive help!
sounds so nice to a cnc guys ears ;) just found your channel after your dissaperence from bit-tech. great to see you again, can't wait to see more from your great work and videos on projects. i love your videos on the whole design phase :D
Well here you are, at your own yt channel! Allways admired your builds and mods but all of a sudden your were gone on bittech yt. Can't wait to see your builds and mods again after you finished your shop. Good luck Alex!
I stumbled lately on your yellow/gold creamy case modding ... and just found now 5 minutes ago your social. I suppose you are going into professional case modding production. I can't wait what you will have available for sale :)! Awesome stuff you are doing!
WOW, that machine seems like a dream to me, I'm amazed by that interface! But, I really need to ask, that aluminium stock that you used when machining the first face and was hold by the vise, it wasn't squared just cut by a bandsaw? I ask because when you turned it over and used that face as a reference... I don't understand how you still manage to face the second face aligned perfectly with the first one. I'm missing something here? Damn I feel so rusty and I miss working with the CNC machines.
It’s something I’ve been considering. The one issue I’ve found is I use A LOT of different ones for different features, so it could become a jumbled mess on the video.
My first comment of 2022. I really hope this is your year. Cant wait to see what you do when under your owner momentum. ( Please say you'll finish aqua ceras lol) :)
Hey Alex, do you think you will get to a point where you can post new videos regularly? There's so much to set up in the new shop and I wish we could follow you on that journey. :-)
I hope that in the new year I will be able to post much more frequently. The main issues I have currently are time related as I'm juggling a new shop/business and house etc. Also much of the work I do I can't film sadly thanks to NDA :/
@@PraetexDesign Oh wow, an NDA signed with Datron or something else? Either way, hang in there and I've no doubt your juggling skills will be more than sufficient. ;-)
I feel conflicted by this video!! I'm deaf so ASMR is already a challenge lol, however I got to see the datron in action again and that tool changer so it makes it even better! I hope you made sure to tick the box to say its not suitable for kids!
Love this new journey you are on and I cant wait to see what new incredible computer case mods and scratch builds you come up with! A question that I have is regarding the old casemods/scratch builds and Bit-Tech, are the builds you did during the Bit-Tech days yours personally or are they in some way the property of Bit-Tech? specially interested in the Aquaceras scratch build, what happens to that now?
Some were mine and others belong to the customers that I built them for. For instance the G.Skill rig was done for them, but part of the deal was that I can keep it after. Likewise Aquaceras was/is my personal PC, which unfortunately is also why it always got put at the back of the priority stack :/ I’m looking forward to getting stuck into a build once I’ve finished up some Pre-existing customer work. It’s a fine balance as projects don’t actually earn me anything, so I have to mix them together with commercial aspects.
@@PraetexDesign Thank you for the answers, and in response to the projects not earning you anything is totally up to how you want to view UA-cam or other video streaming service as an income. If you see that as more of an extra exposure rather then a real source of income the I totally agree that it brings no additional income, me personally would love to se more of your "build from the ground" pcs as it was the series I enjoyed most on the Bit-Tech channel, maybe it could help to showcase the parts you intend to sell? Love the content so far and I hope to see one of your great builds in the future. Need anything drawn up in SolidWorks just hit me up.
@@magnuspaulsson311 It’s fairly easy to commercialise rigs to an extent, I get a lot of requests from individuals and companies to do show pieces etc. However, the time involved is insane, and with all the new equipment etc it means the cost could become astronomical. One thing that I’m hoping to do is tie in product research into build logs. I have a lot of ideas for parts I’d love to produce, but there’s a lot of testing and prototyping that has to go into anything before it can make it to market. If I can combine some of that process with a project, it could make it more fun for both viewers and myself as well as be a nice showcase.
@@PraetexDesign Sounds like you have a good grip on the situation and a clear plan, I like it! Hope it all falls in to place soon and that you can get the wheel rolling on some nice parts and builds! and thank you for the replies! Last question and sorry for the bombardment of questions, are you still using fusion 360 as the CAD software? or have you changed to be more compatible with the Datron (if that was something that was a thing) or for some logistical, mass production reason and so on, I myself spend everyday working in SolidWorks.
@@magnuspaulsson311 I’m still using Fusion, I haven’t really had the need to swap yet, potentially in the future when I have other machines with differing capabilities it might make sense to switch. If I swapped to Solidworks, it would mean also swapping to a considerably more expensive CAM solution. Interestingly enough Datron works a fair bit with Autodesk, so Fusion actually has the best compatibility with their control atm.
5:25, clever to cut these ears off at the 2nd opp. once they start resonating they'l kill/break your tool.. I'm always carefull with these flaps.. Is that clamp sturdy enough for your likings?
I’d say they’re so so. They’re good for a number of quick things, but the clamping force is nothing like a proper vice. I did have one part fly out of the jaws when I was first experimenting with cutting parameters, gave me some food for thought.
@@PraetexDesign I noticed some chips resonating on the fixed part that is connected to the bed, that was my concern. Once it starts resonating you'll loose grip soon. Combine that with an upwarts force of the cutter and it's game over pretty soon. I expect there is difference in stability on the moving part and the fixed part too. When running a production batch where speed and reliability are important factors, i like to work with dedicated clamps/fixtures.
@@berendlucasvanderweide 100% on the part about the production fixtures. I picked up a bunch of kit to help with that since I want to do most of the machine loading outside of the machine. On the resonance part, it may be a bit tricky to tell on this video though as I’m running the MQL system the whole time. So any chips on the clamp etc will be pushed around by the air blast. I noticed some chips by the end that move back and forth in perfect timing with the spindle movement, so that may have been the cause? There was definitely some resonance in a couple of the bigger cuts though, could hear the difference in the cut compared with other sections.
@@PraetexDesign @Praetex Design and due to the design of the machine, there is also difference in stability in x and y. Just use an overstep/depth that is acceptable for the weakest axis. You'll learn your machine sooner or later better than anybody else. Just keep your eyes/ears open. I don't know if you use fusion360, you can optimize your parameters and save them in a template, very convenient in my opinion. At 08:00, left lower corner on the fixed part, dancing chips on resonance. Judging the sounds that is the most aggressive cut on the video. It could be that a deeper cut makes it more silent, since a larger portion of the cutter is in touch with the material and with a single flute the non contact time interval becomes shorter. (Cutter is a spiral, that's what's causing this). In this case (dancing chips) i would tame it down. I could be wrong, but i thought Datron provides libraries for their cutters for f360, if i recall the demo I've had correctly. Perhaps you already use these. A preset isn't holy in my book. The sound a cut makes tells a lot. And cutting aggressively simple produces a lot of noise. Surface quality is a good factor too.
Well, you certainly provided the actual sounds on this one. But, honestly, I would have preferred other sounds as I was not prepared to hear a high speed grinding with full volume on my headset. :) On the good side, it is rather quite impressive to see it working!
@@PraetexDesign lol I have no doubt in my mind you will come up with something both beautiful and efficient. Love the videos can't wait to see what you do next have a great day
Hey! Why are you probing Z here? Save some time and gain some accuracy by basing your work coordinate system off your clamping fixture! There's no need to pick up z twice if you do this and you also don't have to rely on a saw cut face for your second op positioning.
That’s just a safety move for the probing routine, it taps the top just to prevent crashes, the coordinates themselves were indeed based on the bottom of the vice jaws.
@@DamienPollet It compresses the collet open. The resting shape is a polygon, which provides the tool clamping force. The compression device squeezes the lobes back into a round shape, you then insert the tool and release the pressure, locking the tool in place.
@@PraetexDesign ahh that's clever… thanks for removing a confusing mystery (not that I was loosing sleep over it but still) Indeed now I can see how the slits in the collet align with the jaws of the compression device.
Datron could learn alot from this video on how to make a proper product video every single one of their videos is garbage filled with terrible techno music. Thanks for taking the time to make a proper video. Have you tried their pcd face mill you will get absolute mirrors on your flat surfaces. How much did the whole package end up costing you roughly? It's so hard to get any info or quotes out of them.
I think I have that particular track burned into my psyche by now 😂 I have an MCD facemill, but haven’t had the courage to try it out yet. I might give it a go today on some acrylic if I have the time later.
And here, we hear the Datron M8 Cube sing the song of its people. A beautiful serenade that is sure to attract the females of its species. Truly marvelous.
Isn't nature incredible?
@@phantomhckI think you mean artifice, but yeah, it is beautiful 😍
Nice to hear the actual machine and not some crappy music like a lot of other clips out there!
Between the M8 and that sweet workshop ... you're living the dream. Those cuts sound perfect !!!
Far from perfect, but a lot of good info to work on!
between the m8 and that sweet workshop, he alone is the cutting one
Can you make a photo of the drive/linear guide setup that drives the gantry? It's on both sides of the table, under it. The chip tray needs to be removed to access the site. I'm building something similar and it would be of massive help!
sounds so nice to a cnc guys ears ;) just found your channel after your dissaperence from bit-tech. great to see you again, can't wait to see more from your great work and videos on projects. i love your videos on the whole design phase :D
To rest of us it sounds like dentist appointment from nightmares.
Well here you are, at your own yt channel! Allways admired your builds and mods but all of a sudden your were gone on bittech yt.
Can't wait to see your builds and mods again after you finished your shop.
Good luck Alex!
Really amazing!! this technology is all yours to do marvelous creations from now on.
Nice job! Would have not touched off on the 2nd op on the back side of the stock like to see how the op 1 and op 2 really align together
I stumbled lately on your yellow/gold creamy case modding ... and just found now 5 minutes ago your social. I suppose you are going into professional case modding production. I can't wait what you will have available for sale :)! Awesome stuff you are doing!
It’s going to be an interesting journey for sure!
Looks amazing! you may want to add in an air blast while probing routine since it looks like falling chips could give you a bad zero
Not a bad shout for in-process probing
WOW, that machine seems like a dream to me, I'm amazed by that interface!
But, I really need to ask, that aluminium stock that you used when machining the first face and was hold by the vise, it wasn't squared just cut by a bandsaw?
I ask because when you turned it over and used that face as a reference... I don't understand how you still manage to face the second face aligned perfectly with the first one.
I'm missing something here? Damn I feel so rusty and I miss working with the CNC machines.
I probed in between the second facing operation and cutting 😅
What's the occasional blast of air for? just clearing potential debris away from the work piece?
I’m not actually sure, it’s a built blast that seems to clear around the toolchange I think.
Hey Alex, when you post videos like this can you add in your feeds and speeds into the videos as well ?
It’s something I’ve been considering. The one issue I’ve found is I use A LOT of different ones for different features, so it could become a jumbled mess on the video.
@@PraetexDesign I think it be fine, just have it up for a small period in a corner, those of us intrested enough will pause or know short forms.
Would love to try and make some programs for that machine and see them run on it
probably Diy Perks, apologise mention others, similar accent, such cool design efficient solutions idea. But with cutting edge cnc machine.
My first comment of 2022. I really hope this is your year. Cant wait to see what you do when under your owner momentum. ( Please say you'll finish aqua ceras lol) :)
This is crazy! What a machine.
Hey Alex, do you think you will get to a point where you can post new videos regularly? There's so much to set up in the new shop and I wish we could follow you on that journey. :-)
I hope that in the new year I will be able to post much more frequently. The main issues I have currently are time related as I'm juggling a new shop/business and house etc. Also much of the work I do I can't film sadly thanks to NDA :/
@@PraetexDesign Oh wow, an NDA signed with Datron or something else? Either way, hang in there and I've no doubt your juggling skills will be more than sufficient. ;-)
Thats insane!! The finish is unreal! when can we buy your stuff to show support?
When I’m comfortable with the quality of the items I intend to produce, I’ll let everybody know!
Are you gonna finish that PC build? Very interesting and very jealous
I feel conflicted by this video!! I'm deaf so ASMR is already a challenge lol, however I got to see the datron in action again and that tool changer so it makes it even better! I hope you made sure to tick the box to say its not suitable for kids!
Love this new journey you are on and I cant wait to see what new incredible computer case mods and scratch builds you come up with!
A question that I have is regarding the old casemods/scratch builds and Bit-Tech, are the builds you did during the Bit-Tech days yours personally or are they in some way the property of Bit-Tech? specially interested in the Aquaceras scratch build, what happens to that now?
Some were mine and others belong to the customers that I built them for. For instance the G.Skill rig was done for them, but part of the deal was that I can keep it after. Likewise Aquaceras was/is my personal PC, which unfortunately is also why it always got put at the back of the priority stack :/
I’m looking forward to getting stuck into a build once I’ve finished up some Pre-existing customer work. It’s a fine balance as projects don’t actually earn me anything, so I have to mix them together with commercial aspects.
@@PraetexDesign Thank you for the answers, and in response to the projects not earning you anything is totally up to how you want to view UA-cam or other video streaming service as an income. If you see that as more of an extra exposure rather then a real source of income the I totally agree that it brings no additional income, me personally would love to se more of your "build from the ground" pcs as it was the series I enjoyed most on the Bit-Tech channel, maybe it could help to showcase the parts you intend to sell?
Love the content so far and I hope to see one of your great builds in the future.
Need anything drawn up in SolidWorks just hit me up.
@@magnuspaulsson311 It’s fairly easy to commercialise rigs to an extent, I get a lot of requests from individuals and companies to do show pieces etc. However, the time involved is insane, and with all the new equipment etc it means the cost could become astronomical.
One thing that I’m hoping to do is tie in product research into build logs. I have a lot of ideas for parts I’d love to produce, but there’s a lot of testing and prototyping that has to go into anything before it can make it to market. If I can combine some of that process with a project, it could make it more fun for both viewers and myself as well as be a nice showcase.
@@PraetexDesign Sounds like you have a good grip on the situation and a clear plan, I like it! Hope it all falls in to place soon and that you can get the wheel rolling on some nice parts and builds! and thank you for the replies!
Last question and sorry for the bombardment of questions, are you still using fusion 360 as the CAD software? or have you changed to be more compatible with the Datron (if that was something that was a thing) or for some logistical, mass production reason and so on, I myself spend everyday working in SolidWorks.
@@magnuspaulsson311 I’m still using Fusion, I haven’t really had the need to swap yet, potentially in the future when I have other machines with differing capabilities it might make sense to switch. If I swapped to Solidworks, it would mean also swapping to a considerably more expensive CAM solution. Interestingly enough Datron works a fair bit with Autodesk, so Fusion actually has the best compatibility with their control atm.
Hey Alex - do you remember what grade aluminum your stock was?
IIRC the one used in this piece was 5083 cast alu.
5:25, clever to cut these ears off at the 2nd opp. once they start resonating they'l kill/break your tool.. I'm always carefull with these flaps.. Is that clamp sturdy enough for your likings?
I’d say they’re so so. They’re good for a number of quick things, but the clamping force is nothing like a proper vice. I did have one part fly out of the jaws when I was first experimenting with cutting parameters, gave me some food for thought.
@@PraetexDesign I noticed some chips resonating on the fixed part that is connected to the bed, that was my concern. Once it starts resonating you'll loose grip soon. Combine that with an upwarts force of the cutter and it's game over pretty soon. I expect there is difference in stability on the moving part and the fixed part too. When running a production batch where speed and reliability are important factors, i like to work with dedicated clamps/fixtures.
@@berendlucasvanderweide 100% on the part about the production fixtures. I picked up a bunch of kit to help with that since I want to do most of the machine loading outside of the machine.
On the resonance part, it may be a bit tricky to tell on this video though as I’m running the MQL system the whole time. So any chips on the clamp etc will be pushed around by the air blast. I noticed some chips by the end that move back and forth in perfect timing with the spindle movement, so that may have been the cause?
There was definitely some resonance in a couple of the bigger cuts though, could hear the difference in the cut compared with other sections.
@@PraetexDesign @Praetex Design and due to the design of the machine, there is also difference in stability in x and y. Just use an overstep/depth that is acceptable for the weakest axis. You'll learn your machine sooner or later better than anybody else. Just keep your eyes/ears open. I don't know if you use fusion360, you can optimize your parameters and save them in a template, very convenient in my opinion.
At 08:00, left lower corner on the fixed part, dancing chips on resonance. Judging the sounds that is the most aggressive cut on the video. It could be that a deeper cut makes it more silent, since a larger portion of the cutter is in touch with the material and with a single flute the non contact time interval becomes shorter. (Cutter is a spiral, that's what's causing this). In this case (dancing chips) i would tame it down. I could be wrong, but i thought Datron provides libraries for their cutters for f360, if i recall the demo I've had correctly. Perhaps you already use these. A preset isn't holy in my book. The sound a cut makes tells a lot. And cutting aggressively simple produces a lot of noise. Surface quality is a good factor too.
Been missing you on Bittech, you just got a Subscribe!
Well, you certainly provided the actual sounds on this one. But, honestly, I would have preferred other sounds as I was not prepared to hear a high speed grinding with full volume on my headset. :) On the good side, it is rather quite impressive to see it working!
This is what I warned people about when they asked for it hahaha
Can't wait for more
this has a super JohnnyQ90 vibe
what's the tool from schunk ur using to load the tools?
Can you please tell me do you use coolant when cutting aluminium or does air also do the job 😊
Yup I’m using coolant in this video
@@PraetexDesign ok thnx but is it possible to cut aluminium with only air ?
@@benjibird99 Yes? It’s just better with a coolant
I loved watching this.
When am I going to be able to order an am-4 CPU block from you LOL
Hol up, lemme develop one first 😂
@@PraetexDesign lol I have no doubt in my mind you will come up with something both beautiful and efficient.
Love the videos can't wait to see what you do next have a great day
Came here for a sleepy sound video...not really what i was expecting 😆😆😆 Nice though
You probed the second op on the stock?
Yes, but there’s a third OP which is probed from the part. The second op is just to remove the hat
Hey! Why are you probing Z here? Save some time and gain some accuracy by basing your work coordinate system off your clamping fixture! There's no need to pick up z twice if you do this and you also don't have to rely on a saw cut face for your second op positioning.
That’s just a safety move for the probing routine, it taps the top just to prevent crashes, the coordinates themselves were indeed based on the bottom of the vice jaws.
Alex I'm in need of aluminium parts for a serious project would you like to let me know if you will be able to take order's.
Pop me an email (in the channel about page) with some details and I can see if I can be of assistance :)
@@PraetexDesign must be just me but no mail address on there just fb and insta.
Wait… how does the hydraulic tool change thing work? It's pulling the tool holder/collet open?
@@DamienPollet It compresses the collet open. The resting shape is a polygon, which provides the tool clamping force. The compression device squeezes the lobes back into a round shape, you then insert the tool and release the pressure, locking the tool in place.
@@PraetexDesign ahh that's clever… thanks for removing a confusing mystery (not that I was loosing sleep over it but still)
Indeed now I can see how the slits in the collet align with the jaws of the compression device.
Did you buy a 1/4 million pounds machine to make a £10 pump block?
Yes.
some people understand investing in the next level is the only path to go :)
Wife: What the f*ck is that noise?
Me: Metals having sex!
I really hoped this was a real thing ASMR machining
4:54 really? Positioning from the stock edges?
Probed mid routine from the workpiece.
What happened to the channel u were supposed to make a build for urself right? Rtx 3090 and all
Just busy I'm afraid
@@PraetexDesign i really wanna see great build vedios from you man, your builds are something next level.
Edit: hopefully we will see them soon again
perfect ASMR for sweet dreams
Muito bom......
What deburr file is that??
It's a Vallorbe flat miniature file.
Price?
I know zero about machining. why do you press it to insert the bit????
Got a time stamp?
Datron could learn alot from this video on how to make a proper product video every single one of their videos is garbage filled with terrible techno music. Thanks for taking the time to make a proper video. Have you tried their pcd face mill you will get absolute mirrors on your flat surfaces. How much did the whole package end up costing you roughly? It's so hard to get any info or quotes out of them.
I think I have that particular track burned into my psyche by now 😂
I have an MCD facemill, but haven’t had the courage to try it out yet. I might give it a go today on some acrylic if I have the time later.
You cought a shiny!
The best porn actor!!!!!!!!!
Most of this footage is sped up
could have been awesome but the video was out of focus half the time
Кто составлял программы?! Это ужасно, смотреть невозможно на эту бестолковую возню с кучей инструментов
И магазин для инструментов это какая то шутка