The GEAR USED on Carcass Heartwork guitar tone. Bill Steer amps and guitar gear discussed.

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  • Опубліковано 12 жов 2018
  • The story of this tone is bananas.
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    Marshall 30th Anniversary head (channel 2)
    Peavy 5150
    Marshall JCM900 SL-X 100
    Marshall SS valvestate micro stack
    Capture process was two or three amps recorded
    simultaneouslye Anniversary [on channel two],
    a Marshall SL-X 100 watt or the 5150, and then
    also more often than not, my 10-watt [Marshall]
    Valvestate micro-stack for extra texture
    Custom Frankencabinet made from two
    Marshall 1960 cabs back to back with
    backs removed and holes filled with
    carboard and gaffatape
    Celestion G12t-75 with one SM57 center
    and one to the edge of the cone on a
    different speaker.
    Started on started in studio 2 Parr studio
    on the Neve VR console. Finished on Allen Heath
    modded console.
    Mixed on SSL console modded with Amazon Audio Developments EQ
    Tape = 2" (Studer A827) with no NR, at 30ips.
    Massenberg Eq and EQing the combined 2-mic signal.
    2 tracks of each player (Steer and Ammott with multiple amps each).
    Massenberg EQ -both channels cascaded in series
    Live 5150 and Guv'nor pedal.
    Monitors were Quested HM415
    Guitars (not confirmed)
    Bill: Ibanez Sabre(s) pos a S540 with DiMarzio IBZ/USA SD pickup
    Amott: Ibanez RG550
    Possible boosts used: Steer at the time used Marshall Guvnor live.
    Colin/Producer was famous for TS9 boosting
    For more info: www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/th...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 536

  • @Unexplained_Bacon
    @Unexplained_Bacon 5 років тому +179

    25 years after release and it's still the best sounding metal album I've ever heard.

    • @karlcasey7210
      @karlcasey7210 5 років тому +1

      The Production on Sentenced to Life by Black Breath beats it IMO

    • @riffmaker247
      @riffmaker247 5 років тому

      Space Bear F$&k yeah \m/

    • @JT-jb7ux
      @JT-jb7ux 5 років тому +1

      I can't stand the bass being buried, I think it really holds the album back.

    • @Fergutor
      @Fergutor 5 років тому

      How about all the Wolfheart albums especially "Tyhjyys", "Totenritual" by Belphegor, "Songs form the North" (I and III) by Swallow The Sun and maybe "Faith Divide Us Death Unite Us" by Paradise Lost? Some of the Stream Of Passion and Ahab albums sound really good too. "Arcane Rain Fell" by Draconian sounds good depending on how I'm listening to it.
      And yeah Heartwork sounds great and is one of the best metal sounds there are. Do you know there is a supposed remaster? It's horrible.

    • @jackshadows2893
      @jackshadows2893 5 років тому +1

      Damn right 🤘

  • @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel
    @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel 5 років тому +38

    Bill Steer is a legend. What a guitarist. After all the heavy stuff he did, he formed a band called Firebird. This was Blues Rock at its finest. The guys guitar work and solos were immense. Sadly now defunct. Luckily I got to see them a few times back in the day. All Hail the mighty Steer!

  • @lesterksi4521
    @lesterksi4521 3 роки тому +13

    Bill Steer and Micheal Ammott, who the hell put them in the same band?!! Genius

    • @mydixiewrecked315
      @mydixiewrecked315 3 місяці тому

      ⚕probably the same guys who put chocolate & peanut butter together!!!

  • @colinsmith5879
    @colinsmith5879 5 років тому +7

    Heartwork still has my all time guitar tone in metal history! This made my day!

  • @liquidrpg
    @liquidrpg 5 років тому +20

    Listened on headphones w/o watching. The familiar riffs started playing and I thought it was the actual record. Clicked back to the video to see if it was an A/B type test, saw it was you playing. My jaw fell on the floor. Very very nicely done!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +2

      You made my day. Thanks Alex.

    • @liquidrpg
      @liquidrpg 5 років тому

      @@CIRCLEOFTONE :)

    • @SwainBjornstrandt
      @SwainBjornstrandt 5 років тому +1

      totally agree with you man. i thought the album was playing when i saw the video. excellent work!

  • @burningempire666
    @burningempire666 5 років тому +6

    It was a $300,000 professional Columbia Records recording done by Colin Richardson. which goes along way. It is still the best sounding death metal album of all-time

  • @chrisocp
    @chrisocp 5 років тому +19

    Hi! Cool video. Thought you might get a kick out of this. I have Bill Steer's block letter 5150 that Andy Sneap bought off him back in the day. According to Andy, it's the amp Bill used to record Heartwork. It's a bit beat up but still sounds great. Love your videos. Keep up the good work. Cheers.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +4

      That's awesome.

    • @TheUmart
      @TheUmart Рік тому +1

      Nope, 6100 is the Heartwork amp

    • @jayjaymerritt2785
      @jayjaymerritt2785 9 місяців тому

      ​@@TheUmartNo. It isn't 😂😂

    • @TheUmart
      @TheUmart 9 місяців тому

      @@jayjaymerritt2785 yup,it is.crank dat second channel and you will hear that bite,peavey just doesn't have it.

  • @KF-is5uc
    @KF-is5uc 5 років тому +29

    "Circle of sickness" sounds like a brilliant name for a band!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +14

      Yep. They can open for Vanilla Sausage.

    • @sintheticsounds1686
      @sintheticsounds1686 5 років тому +1

      With how sick I am on a regular basis id fit right in. Id call the first album, mucous delirium.

    • @kurtti1043
      @kurtti1043 5 років тому

      circle of lifts

  • @swanofnutella4734
    @swanofnutella4734 5 років тому +24

    Once upon a time, before metal even existed, the entire idea of an "Album" was that it was a collection of songs that the musician(s) was(were) already known for playing.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +3

      Yep. Crazy concept today with the lack of live scene.

    • @aramkaizer7903
      @aramkaizer7903 5 років тому

      Albums still exist.

    • @giovonemendoza6531
      @giovonemendoza6531 4 роки тому

      But why stay the same? I mean carcass was a grind band before heartwork

  • @tedbyron1499
    @tedbyron1499 Рік тому +2

    You absolutely need to cover Symphonies Of Sickness.
    It's far more challenging to the ear and I feel it showcases their talents better than anything else.

  • @TheComplainingGamer
    @TheComplainingGamer 5 років тому +49

    I must say that I found your perspective fascinating and I'm also very happy that this was recommended by UA-cam.
    I'd like to address the points you made including your own popularity. First of all the Carcass content was fantastic, but the direction your thoughts took were more interesting.
    When it comes to UA-cam and musical popularity there seems to be a small click who are doing fine and growing and that same click somewhat define the 'scene'. I'm talking about Ola Englund, Rob Chapman, Rob Scallon, Jared Dines, Misha Mansoor, Ryan Bruce etc. as the main influencers for up and coming musicians and especially guitarists.
    As you said the old-guard is fading out and who is there to replace them. For my personal taste there are many 'technical' bands nowadays demonstrating incredible proficiency and technique however such styles eventually plateau and what I'm noticing is a return to simplicity and focus on actually writing good music and not just a noodle fest.
    The bedroom guitarists of years ago who are now the technical players we see today are maturing and I believe are starting to examine what they do and become more tasteful with their writing as opposed to feeling the urge to show what they can do.
    As for small live venues they have steadily declined and been disappearing for years, unfortunately. The modern taste is all about immediate and short gratification rather then digesting an album fully, slowly, repeatedly, looking for undiscovered nuance each time. Easy, quick access to be thrown away and forgotten is the style of today, for all art, in my opinion. It's a great shame.
    Film, music, gaming, books. Nothing is cherished, nothing is examined. One persons years of hard work is anothers toilet roll, and I believe it is extremely damaging for the human condition for us to be this way. Attention, memory, appreciation all in severe decline.
    When it comes to playing live and honing your craft as you stated, that concept is dead. Bedroom producing to a high standard is easier than ever and VST amps are getting closer and closer to the real thing. I'd also add that the widespread death of community in towns and villages with the me, me, me mentality adds extra challenges for musicians who would like to practice in real scenarios. Musicians are not supported, noise is not tolerated at any level. So it forces beginners to sit there, headphones on, isolated, which isn't ideal.
    I very much enjoyed this whole video, enough to comment and subscribe.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +8

      Thanks man. I think the main issue with my channel is older viewers who appreciate my channel do not share, tweet, comment etc. Kids are early adopters to social media and they share like crazy. That is why people should not complain that Jake Paul, Makeup Tutorials and vapid content is being pushed by UA-cam. The algorithm is only reacting to the deluge of likes and comments/interactions from young fans. If we want social media to get a little more high brow, middle aged people need to stop getting offended when creators ask to share, like and comment. People appreciate my channel but won't share because they mock people who use social media.
      People like Jared Dines and Stevie T blow up for two reasons. 1 they can play like motherfuckers. 2: They are funny and that cater to young fans who share their content like crazy = growth. I'm getting into the habit of liking content I appreciate by default. That then pushes the video to get recommended by UA-cam. So I'm REALLY up against it because old schoolers tend to mock social media so I'm kinda screwed. Johan Segeborn has 50k subs. That is CRIMINAL!!! He should have over a million as it's the best guitar channel on UA-cam, but again nobody is sharing because his demographic are older dudes into classic rock. And sharing isn't the manly thing to do apparently.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +5

      By the way: Welcome to the Circle.

    • @TheComplainingGamer
      @TheComplainingGamer 5 років тому +1

      As a content creator myself, I can offer my thoughts.
      If your goal is to grow as a creator I think you could consider a few different things. Given the level of competition and choice out there it's not an easy market.
      To me, your content and ideas are great and can definitely appeal to a wider audience. The limitation in my honest opinion is the presentation. Your delivery is raw and to the point as well as thoughtful (which I like) but some viewers might find the environment a bit cluttered.
      A consideration could be simplification or reorganizing your setup or a green screen. Your camera quality is good but could be great with a DSLR to offer that modern crispness viewers can enjoy. Sound is fine, a little roomy. Sometimes you could do sections with on screen presentations and your voice over using a condenser mic in a more descriptive, documentary style eg. when you were talking about the specific equipment, potentially source images, screenshots etc.
      NOW, I also have a second opinion to everything I just said. You can tell me I'm talking rubbish, also I don't know your specific desires and motivation here.
      The algorithm rewards regular content and your history is a tad irregular. Next to that, the algorithm is genius in a way, it manages to pigeon hole creators to a very specific corner of 'their' audience and it's incredibly difficult to get out of that, if at all even AFTER making multiple and financially costly adjustments.
      But hey, just my thoughts, I could be talking rubbish, I really don't want to sound like a nob.

    • @TheComplainingGamer
      @TheComplainingGamer 5 років тому +3

      Btw just whipped out my DT 770 headphones, you absolutely nailed the guitar tone! Plenty of high end and without any harshness.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +4

      Thanks man. I do need help. My issue is I concentrate and obsess more over the capture process and research, but then my presentation is an afterthought.
      I hate the twee intro music, coffee shop vibe of most UA-cam channels. The led backlighting and pastels etc but I have to bite the bullet and get more slick. My thumbnails need to be addressed too.

  • @JoelTibbits
    @JoelTibbits 5 років тому +3

    Great video!
    I appreciate your approach to researching and discovering how these influential sounds were achieved.
    I’ve viewed a number of your videos but this one really got to an important level of consideration: Commitment. It’s what speaks through the tone, the notes, the production...it’s the richness of the experience of creating.
    Again, love the video, keep up the great work you are doing!

  • @luxinvitas
    @luxinvitas 4 роки тому +1

    Man, I just found your channel and is....greatly underrated! Amazing work and talent. Such interesting information and thoughts that you share. I highly appreciate and recommend this channel. Keep it up!

  • @twistedwill2446
    @twistedwill2446 5 років тому +52

    Bill Steer is so underrated as a guitarist, he’s been my influence since the 90’s, Heartwork is awesome but when they released Surgical Steel, that is their pinnacle album.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +6

      Yep he was huge for the scene. Helped invent a genre in Grindcore, then invented another in melodeth.

    • @Thrasher_Abbatoir
      @Thrasher_Abbatoir 5 років тому +3

      @JezBollah 667 Fuck yeah. Surgical Steel is fucking masterpiece. The final mix of the album was great, you can hear Jeff bassline as well :)

    • @A7XKoRnRocks1
      @A7XKoRnRocks1 5 років тому +1

      Bill Steer is a guitar god.

    • @argetect2847
      @argetect2847 5 років тому

      Bold, sir! Bold!

    • @rogermechanica
      @rogermechanica 4 роки тому +1

      My favorite one is Necroticism.Heartwork comes second and then Surgical Steel.They are all awesome.But I'm old.I've got that excuse.Both Necroticism and Heartwork are milestones in the Death Scene.No one was doing that.The real difference from those days is the bands were all different.They where unique.Copycats didn't make it.Surgical Steel is the missing link between Necroticism and Heartwork and the sound is better because it was recorded today, although that is discussable(I prefer Necroticism and Heartwork)

  • @clintn6677
    @clintn6677 5 років тому +21

    Love Carcass. Between them Bolt Thrower and Obituary are my holy Trinity. Nice The Young Ones shirt! RIP (P)Rik

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

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      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

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      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

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    • @clintn6677
      @clintn6677 5 років тому

      @@CIRCLEOFTONE I've watch these at least a dozen times a piece. Have you given Memoriam a listen?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      @@clintn6677 Yep. Love it.

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs 3 роки тому +3

    1:25 omg that low vibrato sounds intrusive. FNice!

  • @ThathousecatSHC
    @ThathousecatSHC Рік тому +1

    the information and detail in this is incredible.

  • @WalrusDoom
    @WalrusDoom 5 років тому

    Fantastic video. I’m glad I stumbled across this channel.

  • @47279J
    @47279J 3 роки тому

    Proper content. I really liked to hear about the sound but also your thoughts.

  • @bobohbuboh8604
    @bobohbuboh8604 5 років тому +4

    Omg so much on spot! Thank you!!

  • @finlandmetalsquadron3661
    @finlandmetalsquadron3661 5 років тому +2

    Cool stories about the gear man, great video..and great channel. They advice was awesome as well, you’re right about music and musicians today....we gotta take it back

  • @jspacone
    @jspacone 5 років тому +2

    I'm definitely not a good guitar player, nor do I know anything about recording. But I recently had the honor of listening to some old JAMES FREAKING TAYLOR album where it was a few dudes in a room with a microphone They literally pressed "record" and went for it. The recording captured all the banter in between the songs and everything. It was just dudes with guitars in a room - no tricks, no overdubs, nothing. And it was MAGIC.

  • @Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
    @Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay 4 роки тому

    It was about time someone spent this long and was this thorough dissecting the Heartwork tone. Great job, very interesting and informative, and a fitting tribute to the sheer amount of time and effort that Mr Steer and the Carcass guys put into getting it down. Still one of the most brutally affecting, musically satisfying, and tonally awesome albums I have ever been fortunate enough to hear.

  • @davecheney8501
    @davecheney8501 5 років тому +28

    Tone... thank you for this level of detail ... I feel you are encouraging experimentation and passion for mixing , producing and playing music. ..🤘🤘☺

  • @jsnwlbrn98
    @jsnwlbrn98 5 років тому +2

    Dude! You are my new best friend!!! Love the video, the perspective, the obsessing for metal and the craft of making good metal! Keep up the good work!

  • @jamesdolan16
    @jamesdolan16 4 роки тому +5

    Can we have the other two parts please!!! Love your stuff btw

  • @bastianmaoro8278
    @bastianmaoro8278 5 років тому +8

    Amazing as always... waiting for Dissection tone.

  • @rabiaanwar7109
    @rabiaanwar7109 5 років тому +1

    Omg finally the video I was expecting! ❤️

  • @matt121guitar
    @matt121guitar 5 років тому

    Great vid bud! Fave album

  • @adrianamorphous
    @adrianamorphous 5 років тому +2

    The video we've all been waiting for

  • @hernanbass5894
    @hernanbass5894 5 років тому +2

    Thanks man! This was so inspiring! Great video.

  • @balazstoth2753
    @balazstoth2753 5 років тому +1

    Great video man. Absolutely agree with the rehearsal/touring part. Playing live everyday gives massive confidence and experience as player. You learn what works and what not in music.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Yep the correlation of home DIY had gone hand in hand with the death of interest in new metal and rock.

  • @hankatstricklandpropane
    @hankatstricklandpropane 4 роки тому +5

    Loved your coverage on some of the history surrounding Carcass along with the side story-esque ramblings. As a 16 year old metalhead into long out-of-print bands and records, I can appreciate the effort you put into your channel. Please continue doing these re-creation style videos, and don't shy away from expressing your opinions (I agree, the post-Heartwork swarm of melodeath copies was nauseating), they're entertaining. Cheers from Texas!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  4 роки тому

      Thanks man. Means a lot.

    • @Heimelhead
      @Heimelhead 4 роки тому

      Jesse Strobel Hello from PA! If you're from Texas, you really gotta hear this new up and coming band. They're name is Pantera

  • @sidneysnottley6414
    @sidneysnottley6414 5 років тому +1

    Another good info session - Cheers. Keep it up .

  • @fuzzmountain7583
    @fuzzmountain7583 5 років тому

    Another great video, cheers!

  • @ricardoostos2406
    @ricardoostos2406 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video!

  • @zacharyseibert6788
    @zacharyseibert6788 5 років тому +1

    Spot on!!! Subscribed.

  • @lukeskywonka
    @lukeskywonka 5 років тому +1

    You finally did it :-) Great video looking to following parts.

  • @BrianBower
    @BrianBower 5 років тому +1

    This is a very informative and inspiring video!

  • @amplifiedemotions
    @amplifiedemotions 3 місяці тому

    Extremely cool video🤘🏻Keep up the good work! I have been a subscriber for quite a while and you never disappoint! I also liked and shared this video ;)

  • @DanielTibbitsArtist
    @DanielTibbitsArtist 5 років тому +1

    Great video, thanks for the info.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Cheers Dan

    • @DanielTibbitsArtist
      @DanielTibbitsArtist 5 років тому

      I am a Canadian metal fan from Vancouver BC and in my forties now and grew up with metal since the late 80's . my older brother and I recently decided to figure out what was and who changed the path of death / metal sound. it was the link with Colin Richardson producing Bolt thrower, carcass and others then he went to the states and worked on fear factory demanufacture, which we believed informed the machine like sounding drums and full and rich distortion sound. influencing many future sub genres. like you said for the good and the bad. I have recorded my own metal music on my computer (at an amateur level). I have done it with microphones and direct. I have always liked the sound of a single distorted guitar track , then as you ad more guitar tracks you loose a lot of the character and aggressive sounds. the distortion gets to smooth and slick. I find a lot of albums fall victim to this. I think one the best metal albums is Carcass- Necrotism , song writing is brilliant but the mix could use some help. it a bit soft and needs a bit more gain. I look forward to hearing your opinion.

  • @rec99cts27
    @rec99cts27 3 роки тому

    Awesome video 👍 very informative

  • @davesiddons8921
    @davesiddons8921 5 років тому

    great work as usual, tone is spot on pal

    • @davesiddons8921
      @davesiddons8921 5 років тому

      plus, i'd be extremely grateful for tips on achieving the 'symphonies of sickness' tone, as its probably my favourite sounding guitar tone (along with warmaster by bolt thrower :D)

  • @AvyScottandFlower
    @AvyScottandFlower 5 років тому +2

    This channel is a joy to watch :)

  • @FacemeltingsolosMusic
    @FacemeltingsolosMusic 5 років тому +1

    This is one of the reasons I've taken to modding and\or making most of my gear. That moment when you hit something that actually works is the best feeling!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Yep. I tweak most things but like to keep the signal simple. Ask any amp tech what the most popular mod on a Marshall is and he will tell you "to get rid of all previous mods and make it stock".

  • @liamb4812
    @liamb4812 5 років тому +1

    Very good Vid, love this sound detective stuff esp for Heartwork, a glorious sounding album. Great Carcass autopsy big man!

  • @Ronny1031
    @Ronny1031 5 років тому +1

    Killer video as always, Owen! Love the Young Ones t-shirt!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +2

      Thanks man. That shows introduced me to The Damned and Motorhead.

    • @nicolastambuyser3822
      @nicolastambuyser3822 5 років тому

      I was about to say the same, great shirt

    • @Ronny1031
      @Ronny1031 5 років тому

      Speaking of shirts, I would totally buy one that says "This is Circle of Tone, bitch!"

  • @grindworker
    @grindworker 5 років тому +2

    waiting for this so loong!!! Is impossible to recreate de exact guitar tone from Heartwork, can be close but no exact. There's a lot of facts as you mentioned on the video. Congratulations, love your channel.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +3

      Yep. People can get ballpark but they tend to forget their tone grates after a few mins. With Heartwork the tone is moorish and makes you want to hear the whole album. It gives you an ear worm. Modern attempts sound good initially then grate on your ear.

  • @mrPaulmoody
    @mrPaulmoody 4 роки тому

    It's a masterpiece. Thanks for this.

  • @Hoscitt
    @Hoscitt 5 років тому +2

    Yessssss! I'm 20 seconds in and really looking forward to this 👍

  • @jonafernal
    @jonafernal 5 років тому +1

    I completely agree dude. I used to obsess with the Slayer guitar sounds & panning them left & right (especially on Hell Awaits) & hearing odd screams & shouts from Jeff & Kerry bleeding through the mics as they were playing. Absolutely golden.

  • @SleepwalkersDoom
    @SleepwalkersDoom 4 роки тому +1

    One of these days, I'm making a frankencab just like the one they used. That album's guitar tone has stuck with me for the last 26 years, so damn perfect and powerful.

  • @neilwishart3162
    @neilwishart3162 5 років тому +1

    Once again, great video.

  • @nicolasbeaudry6158
    @nicolasbeaudry6158 8 місяців тому +1

    Dude good job🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @iapiaya
    @iapiaya 5 років тому

    I acquired Heartwork when living in Michigan's U.P. "Escanaba" in early 94 after getting out of the Service-Talk about just a handfull of people even knew who "Carcass" was then. Great Video! I am glad I stumbled across this.

  • @unholypaimon2280
    @unholypaimon2280 5 років тому

    Sweet video! You make a lot of good points. Keep it gruesome!

  • @turaly0n
    @turaly0n 5 років тому +1

    Yes. Was really hoping you'd do this album. Looking forward to Necroticism next. Great work as always.
    Also, not that i needed it, this validates my love for the G12t-75

  • @WillMaskellTaylor
    @WillMaskellTaylor 5 років тому

    finished watching, fantastic video as well Owen, really giving me some motivation for my band as im having a bit of a hard time with motivation atm, im sick of metal being so stale. I definitely think its all about finding great musicians who are passionate and not just good, gigging the shit out your songs, using real room sounds etc.

  • @ApexDubb
    @ApexDubb 5 років тому +1

    I really dig your view on this subject

  • @johndevitt2164
    @johndevitt2164 5 років тому

    well done Owen. the energy when you can get people to play together. Unfortunately I could never get people together. Where has the passion gone

    • @johndevitt2164
      @johndevitt2164 5 років тому

      can you give string gauges a mention

  • @nothingsusual
    @nothingsusual 2 роки тому +1

    As a Carcass fan, and just a fan of metal in general, I've had a hard time putting my finger on why my interest in the genre has been waning over the years. You've done a great job of articulating why I and so many others still listen to those evergreen albums even though countless other acts have built upon those albums' foundation with improved musicianship and production quality since then.
    When a band takes their bedroom demos out on the road and plays them dozens or hundreds of times in front of live audiences before committing them to tape, there is something visceral about that experience. To that point, although modern musicians have access to nearly everything they need in their DAW to create facsimiles of nearly any sound, at the end of the day they are putting in (very little comparative) effort to replicate a sound another band pushed boundaries to create from scratch decades earlier.

  • @AR-mq5oz
    @AR-mq5oz 5 років тому +4

    Oh man, how I love this album, I was 15 when I heard it for the first time back in 1996 thanks to a classmate that lend me a copy on tape, never heard anything like that before. Great video man, that sounds very spot on!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Haha. Thank God for sketchy freinds and grimy tapes.

    • @JE12334
      @JE12334 5 років тому

      Same here, I still listen to this album from time to time...a forgotten masterpiece for sure

    • @shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264
      @shapeshifter-theamorphousg3264 4 роки тому

      Same. Still listening to the original release from 1993 from time to time. Absolutely timeless masterpiece, made me fall in love with brillantly executed melodic deathmetal heaviness.

  • @Ronny1031
    @Ronny1031 5 років тому +2

    Can't wait to see parts 2 and 3 if they're still on the table! Fucking love Carcass! Badass as always, Owen!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      Yep I was thinking about that recently.

  • @clowncorpse7230
    @clowncorpse7230 4 роки тому +1

    Great video man we have toured our album too also done demos over years the album is halfway finished but I totally get ya something bigger has come out of each song so I'm with you on that😀keep up the good work & looking forward to seeing more videos from ya dude🤘

  • @musicformysanity9050
    @musicformysanity9050 5 років тому +2

    Just started following you and couldn't agree more with your aspect of the recording process. I recently had a failed attempt at a band with a bunch of guys that all wanted to do everything DIY style. Which I have been recording DIY for years and can do it, but they just didn't get the idea of going into a room playing through all the songs to get the drums (no click track) and a starter track of all the other instruments. Then record the guitars a few more times using different amps, rooms, mics, guitars, etc until we found the tone that worked, or a blend of tones that worked the best. Then just punch in the screw-ups and call it a day. The tone searching was the longest part of the studio time. To find the sounds that complimented the band and the tracks. I am lucky that I recorded in a beautiful studio the old school way back in the late 90's. I tried to convince my guys (all born in the 90's) that we should be able to play through this stuff flawlessly as a band before recording.
    The singer and guitarist kept blaming the drummer for changing tempo and the guitarist said he couldn't play to the drums if they weren't perfect. Which makes no sense since we played live all the time, he just couldn't accept that a different level of accuracy is needed in the studio. You can't hide behind a noisy venue and distortion cranked to a thousand. Plus, when you record live drums without a click, you get a more organic song. No song is meant to be perfectly 86 or 120 BPM all the way through. You lose a ton of dynamics and emotion when you can't speed up or slow down 2-3BPM during different parts of a song. I also swear by using live amps, no re-amping. My playing, my voice is influenced by my interaction with my amp.
    Anyways, Cheers man! Really dig your perspective!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      Exactly. I don't reamp because you play too the amps feel and response. I play different via a 5150 vs a Marshall. I dig in more etc.

  • @Metalbaum
    @Metalbaum 5 років тому +1

    ur right i did this with my band, so we started to rerecord som old songs how we did it live so yeah, playing the songs live is the best thing

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Yep. There is a lot of magic that can happen when captured.

  • @someonesusingmyname
    @someonesusingmyname 5 років тому +1

    Liked and subbed just because you did this beautiful thing. Cheers!

  • @christopherh2563
    @christopherh2563 5 років тому +1

    Great video and overall message. Cheers from Sweden

  • @NeuroticNexus
    @NeuroticNexus 4 роки тому +2

    A good example of older recordings how they had impacts from other instruments is one song of Deftones. In the intro of the song, the guitar's loudness triggers the wires of the snare bottom! For me always legendary to listen that moment, especially over headphones!

  • @StarvingMorlock
    @StarvingMorlock 2 роки тому +2

    Heartwork is the holy grail on Carcass tone, but I also love the gut busting tone on Swansong.

    • @saltpeter7429
      @saltpeter7429 Рік тому

      Swansong is untouchable. The foot tapping awesomeness is paramount.

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs 3 роки тому

    Listening again the intro, the original and other covers ... that 1:25 vibrato for me brings the best feeling for this kinda stuff, even better than the original that was like the covers on the "confort zone" so again, I like the way you put your own style even wanting to recreate as close as possible on the gear side... thanks.

  • @jackshadows2893
    @jackshadows2893 5 років тому +2

    Amazing work! That is so dead on 🤘💀🤘

  • @Dezcharge
    @Dezcharge 4 роки тому +1

    Great content and wise words. I wish I had found this channel earlier. Like 20 years ago haha. CHEERS

  • @gastonjabaly
    @gastonjabaly 5 років тому

    The best video about music ive seen in a loong time. The truth

  • @guillotinedeath
    @guillotinedeath 5 років тому

    Sounds just as great live

  • @josefrancisco6969
    @josefrancisco6969 5 років тому +1

    Great video.

  • @OdinNoogrodamus
    @OdinNoogrodamus 5 років тому

    great video i agree with you experience actually gigging maters

  • @robcarrier1969
    @robcarrier1969 Рік тому +3

    In Tom Warrior's book he talks about a roadie buying and giving him an Ibanez Iceman, which he said looked cool as hell but wouldn't stay in tune. Sounds incredible though. Can't help thinking metal bands used to have their own sound because they couldn't afford a Line 6 stack and a seven string Ibanez or whatever the kidz are using these days.

  • @brazilianmegaman258
    @brazilianmegaman258 5 років тому +1

    Nailed it again man.

  • @MinestroneOfSound
    @MinestroneOfSound 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for posting. And thank you to the late great John Peel for introducing me to Heartwork - one of those albums I prefer to enjoy uninterrupted, and cranked, from start to finish. Would love to hear all your choices of finest albums...

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      John peel has a UA-cam channel that has so much gold... Old strange music has some gems among the coal. Funnily enough I bought his book on 4 track recording when I was half my age.

  • @Vaifan1981
    @Vaifan1981 5 років тому +5

    Hüsker Dü basically played all of the songs that would end up on Zen Arcade live before they went in the studio to record it, and that record is quintessential in American Hardcore Punk history

  • @MikeOxwelling2
    @MikeOxwelling2 4 роки тому

    Haha love the final thoughts, true old school thinking. Couldn't agree more but I guess you sort of have to have grown up and lived through that era of bands and sound progression to appreciate the nuances of passionate production. Keep it up!

  • @16dbuse
    @16dbuse 5 років тому

    A great video, thank you for the education. Heartwork is one of the best metal albums ever made, and it's one of my favorites.

  • @deafanddestructiononthepis3149
    @deafanddestructiononthepis3149 5 років тому

    Cool shirt man! I used to watch that show a lot!

  • @gh6800
    @gh6800 5 років тому +1

    Thanks , totally agree with you

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man. Pretty funny that your are called HH and Napalm Death used those amps back in the day live.

    • @gh6800
      @gh6800 5 років тому

      @@CIRCLEOFTONEI didn't know !! in the early days ? Scum period or after ?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      @@gh6800 just after scum and usually live.

  • @666jswful
    @666jswful 5 років тому +1

    Hey man, loved this video, love Carcass and totally love checking out the channel. After you discussed how Carcass played Heartwork live before hitting the studio and the amount of time they rehearsed that got me thinking about bands that go into a studio and write almost the entire album there. Can you discuss some bands that have done this? I’ve heard some albums that were written in the studio as recording is going and these albums sound great too. Cheers man.

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      I think my fav example is a failed obsession by The Who/Townsend called Lifehouse. Pete went so deep into the writing and production which they rented a theater for months and invited the public! Pete's vision was hampered by the mangment at the time and he toiled so hard he had a nervous breakdown. But from that concept it bred amazing songs and footage that helped the Who long term.

  • @charlesguthrie1844
    @charlesguthrie1844 5 років тому +2

    Great info on Carcass's work from the album Heartwork. I'm big fan of them.The last c.d. that i found was a double disk of their 2014 release "Surgical Remission/ Surplus Steel" for $9.99 at Best Buy. It was the last copy, so yeah I had to get that bad boy..lol I'm looking forword to the other parts of the Carcass era. Keep up the great work. Metal Horns Up \m/

  • @Kevin.Kelly.
    @Kevin.Kelly. 5 років тому +6

    Can’t wait for the My Dying Bride tone. My fav album was Like Gods of the Sun (Peavey 5150, Marshall 1960, EMG 81?) Pretty sure Trinity was Marshall Valvestates. Thanks for the Carcass rundown! BTW, who was the trusted source that everything was a 5150? I’m not so sure I believe that one. Heartwork was textures/layers of the amps mentioned but maybe mainly the 5150. Thanks again!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      It was the biggest little bird I've ever seen.

  • @VodkaSelekta
    @VodkaSelekta 5 років тому +1

    Just thought i would say keep up the 'weird metal stuff' it's half the reason I subscribed :)

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Yeah it's tough to get the sell out balance right. My channel is dead.

  • @yantaran4757
    @yantaran4757 5 років тому +1

    We love you, Owen! Dont worry, I'm sure you'll still get your fair share of subs:)

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      I love you guys too. My subs are small but so many cool people helping me out.

  • @sauter1
    @sauter1 5 років тому +1

    Great video on one of the most legendary tones in metal! Incidentally just weeks ago I embarked on trying to get a tone very close to it for an upcoming recording, and today I see this video crop up...thanks for crushing my hopes! LOL.
    Seriously though, I think you're spot on. Back in those days things were done in a more organic way for sure. If I may, I want to suggest another reason for us getting 'lazy' nowadays and relying on 'pre-packaged' digital sounds: Internet piracy has made it just not worth it to do it the old school way.
    From your description, Carcass went through an obsessive, monumental effort to record an album they would be happy with. Do that nowadays, and what do you get? You maybe sell half a dozen CDs at an album launch, and a week after that your album has already been uploaded to 30 illegal download websites, after which no one needs to buy your album anymore. They just steal the fruits of all your massive efforts. It pains me to say, but after already having gone through that, it seriously starts to change your thinking into a 'gonna do it with the least effort next time round' kind of mindset, cos it's just not worth it.
    Or maybe it is. But it certainly creates a lot of conflict in my mind Anyway, thanks for giving me serious food for thought here. Keep the great videos coming!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man. If you take anything away from my channel, just make sure you don't do it alone. I wasted 20 years doing the DIY thing. Don't be put off by how hard it is. If you concentrate on the song writing and band rehearsals rather than recording it will be a lot easier to capture greatness when you are ready to record.

  • @WillMaskellTaylor
    @WillMaskellTaylor 5 років тому

    Fantastic album

  • @jamesquirk8656
    @jamesquirk8656 5 років тому

    Such a great video. I'm glad I found this channel.
    I'm curious to hear what your thoughts are on the Gorguts album "Colored Sand." To me, that's the closest we've come to a "Heartwork"-level of quality in a record.

  • @user-rm5il4uh3i
    @user-rm5il4uh3i 6 місяців тому +1

    Agree with other posters that this is the best sounding metal album I've ever heard. 90% of it is Mr. Bill Steer and his magic fingers. He could make anything sound fantastic. Agree with Owen, the gigging, hard work and obsession is the key.

    • @jsullivan2112
      @jsullivan2112 21 день тому

      90% of it was the gear used, the signal chain, Keith Andrews, and a LOT of patience.

  • @sallekhana
    @sallekhana 5 років тому +2

    "People my age don't do that"
    Caught me. Liked and subscribed.

  • @lightoffuturedays
    @lightoffuturedays 5 років тому +2

    Symphonies and Necroticism are the two best carcass albums, in my opinion. Not the best produced but they encapsulate what set them apart from 99% of 'other' bands of the day and have clearly proven to be extremely influential. As you were..

    • @tedbyron1499
      @tedbyron1499 Рік тому

      Especially Symphonies. For a 3 piece to make that much noise... wow.
      Also, that's when they were really working the call and response high (Jeff Walker) vocal with the low (Bill Steer, possibly Ken Owen) vocal.
      Mind numbing.
      The penultimate of Grindcore

  • @shredmonster76
    @shredmonster76 5 років тому +2

    This is fantastic! I remember this album came out when i was in high school, it was the heaviest shit in existence. Yeah Morbid angel was on 7 strings by then, but the mix of this album was much heavier than covenant. Any chance of some Paradise lost or My dying bride?

  • @radkins80
    @radkins80 5 років тому +2

    How can I like this video 69 times? I have been stalking your channel waiting for this one!

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому +1

      Hehe. Thanks man. Glad you like it.

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker 4 роки тому

    Heartwork is a Masterpiece..nice video. I love that t-bird bass by the way.

  • @DanzoSrife
    @DanzoSrife 5 років тому +2

    This is great! I've read this article before, but its MUCH better to hear it from you playing it :D Btw I would love to get an explanation of Arch Enemy's War Eternal and beyond tones. For some reason, there's nothing on Bias Fx Tonecloud. All these thousands of users and no Arch Enemy tone, what?

    • @CIRCLEOFTONE
      @CIRCLEOFTONE  5 років тому

      Thanks man. Arch Enemy may get done one day.