DANZIG! Recreating the mystery amps of John Christ.
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2018
- What happens when I don't know gear specifics? I go insane.
I used 1969 Plexi 100w
Celestion Creamback 75w
SM57 mic
Unidyne mic
Ribbon mic
AKG c214
Krk 8 monitor to simulate band bleed.
He used
Bedrock amp
Mystery rented Marshalls
Rented PRS
BC Rich Bich
Possibly a Laney
Later stuff
John Christ/Danzig: BC Rich Bich, VHT Pitbull Classic Head, Rocktron Intellifex, VHT Chromeface power amp, Marshall cabs
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I always liked the guitar tone john christ had, he's so underrated
Yeah he's the man.
Not in my world he isn't!
correct usage of underrated!
I've been playing guitar for decades and never knew his name just from my own ignorance and lack of magazine, documentary and internet coverage.. such a shame on the whole music world.
Thank you for giving him the credit he never gets but deserves. He was one of the most influential players on me coming up. Especially his pinch harmonics and sleazy, greasy riffs. He akways could balance pretty clean parts with huge riffs. ANYTHING and SISTINAS sound like songs from the slow dance at a satanic prom. I even think 4p had some of his best work. The breakdown riff in Brand New God, Until You Call on the Dark, I Don’t Mind the Pain. Thanks for this man. I’d love to see another unsung hero, Jay Yuenger
All the music is written by Danzig and then John would just flesh out solos
John and Rick also would flesh out songs too, at least according to some interviews I've read..there's no way, as much as I love Misfits and Samhain, that ALL those old Danzig songs were "written" exclusively by him though obviously Danzig is/was a visionary and had superior songwriting skills, just talking about the twists and turns that seemed like they were helped along by John in particular. I think Glenn wrote the basis of the songs but some sound like they had been fleshed out by the others. Growing up, John was the one who got me into playing pinch harmonics in the first place and still to this day, it irks me when people think I like Zaak Wylde and I have to correct them that Christ was a huge influence! As for Jay Yuenger, yeah there's something a lot cooler about him on Astro-Creep that didn't come across on Rob Zombie's subsequent solo work. Another unsung hero, and another fave growing up: Rocky George- what an incredible underrated guitar player! Suicidal leads took you to another world with George, great taste, feel, and spacey delayed lead sound with awesome tapping and arpeggios! Also, on Art of Rebellion, he was prescient in the upcoming usage of 7 Strings in Metal. One of the first guitarists AFTER Steve Vai to use them on a semi-mainstream metal record!
My favorite guitarist. His tone and playing was so different from the rest of the rock and metal players of the late 80's /early 90's. Thick and crunchy. Was lucky enough to see Danzig with John in 1995, saw them a bunch afterwards but it was never the same.That was the 4P tour and man he was great that night at the red bank theatre in NJ. The going down to die solo still gives me the chills to this day. I found out that he's living in maryland and doing lessons now either via Skype or in person, will be an 1.5hour trip but well worth it to learn from my guitar idol.
Twist of Cain is such a great song
Yep I really wanted to sing it but can't shift this cold.
CIRCLE OF TONE. You still really nailed it though, sounded just like the record. Loved all your research, it’s fun to hear about your journey down the tone rabbit hole 🙂
I started to sing along ...
It is one hell of a fucking song! There's a reason it's the opener of the first Danzig record.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You did a one hell of a job though. You got my respect.
I saw Danzig live twice in 1988 including their 1st show ever in Trenton NJ and John Christ also played a black Les Paul Custom as well as the BC Rich
This sounds 100% to me. Those pinch harmonics sounded stellar.
Bonus points for choosing a good song as well.
When I heard that first note I knew it was dead on.
You should do a video on Old Candlemass
Great tone.
yessssssssss Nightfall!!!
Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Was gonna say that myself
@@hmpz36911 secon that
That drum reverb technique is the most GENIUS thing I have seen in home recording
Thanks man.
Always love your videos popping up in my feed. Authentic, thoroughly researched, and an honest appreciation of great music.
Nice one! "Can't Speak" guitar part is the other Danzig 4 song "Let It Be Captured" backwards.
Wow. Awesome info. Thanks man.
That tone was so spot on man, great work! I would have to say Danzig4 is my favorite album by them. I love John Christ's "somewhat sloppy" solo on Going Down To Die. Something about it is just so raw & unpolished but it works so well.
I think this is my favorite tone recreation video you've done yet! You freakin nailed it!
I love how you make a story of each of your video! Great work capturing the tone!
Thanks man.
Don’t forget to do Kenny Hickey tone from Type O Negative for Halloween. Preferably the album Bloody Kisses.
I'm doing October Rust but it's all good.
CIRCLE OF TONE. You could do both Bloody Kisses and October Rust both together I mean Kenny used a Marshall JMP-1 on those two albums
Monty Ryan: He actually used an ADA MP-1 on Bloody Kisses and the ADA MP-2 on October Rust. Maybe you’re thinking of the Marshall power amp he used with those. He also used an Alesis Quadraverb. His 80’s V has an old Dirty Fingers which made his tone awesome as well.
Kevin Kelly oh right thanks mate
Just do all the album's, seeing how they are the best band of all time! ☝️🤘👌👍
When you started playing Twist of Cain in the beginning I expected to hear that first "YEAH" from Danzig and was like "Wtf where's the... oh yeah"
Haha. Thanks.
That studio chaos thing got me thinking, maybe instead of worrying about the traffic noise that obliterates my room and makes recording at home not an option, embrace the chaos and let the random vehicle vibrations shape the tone
Yep. There is massive hum on one of my mics in this recreation but in the mix it's just more ambience. The analog hiss of tape is relaxing in itself.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Rather hear analog tape hiss than digital sterilization.
This is one of the best videos that you have done. Nice work! I am in love with the production of the first couple of Danzig albums. I honestly think that Rubin peaked during this time, honestly. His use of modern production techniques and the loudness wars would be a good video also.
This is the video I needed but I thought never existed. What an absolute gem! Thank you for the pile of rare info. Signal chains are so delicately touchy Jesus!
John Christ is now touring again, playing stuff from the old Danzig records. I'd love to see him live
0:58 - Holy shit, that's perfect! Exactly like the album. Wow man, great job. I recently found your channel; thoroughly enjoying it and learning a lot.
Thanks Paul. Welcome to the Circle.
Well done my friend. I spent many years recreating christ tones and techniques. You did an excellent job.
The best Circle of Tone episode ~ bravo on the hard work on this one! 👏🏻🤘
Thanks man
I also fell in love with that first Danzig. Was in summer school in 8th grade and this guy traded me his Danzig tape for a misfits shirt. I was a misfits fan but had never heard Danzig(things were different back then). Popped that thing in my walkman and was instantly blown away. Never heard anything like it and couldn't believe the transformation of Glenn from the Misfits to Danzig.
So yeah, good producers can save musicians from themselves and take that raw talent as far as it'll go.
Hehe. Yep that trade life. I bet that t-shirt is worth a bit today.
Man that room reverb trick is great! Thank you for sharing that!
Blondie "Call Me" was the formula from which Danzig created the bands rhythm guitar riffs, drum style and vocal melodic hook. Literally everything.
Great info. Great song too.
I thought he stole it from Children of the Grave since he’s a huge Sabbath fan
30 years ago I saw Danzig perform in Arvada Colorado at what amounts to a strip club. After the show John Christ stuck around and handed out picks and signed us kids shirts. He was hands-down the friendliest rockstar I have ever come across… And I’ve met quite a few.
That's awesome.
Well done! This "re-amped bleed" technique is super clever, I applaud you!
Thanks man.
My oh my, was listening to Danzig's first album after a long while just the other day. This is just amazing! Very nice tone you pulled out :D John Christ is very underrated.
too bad he got into a really horrible car accident many YRs ago... and had to even learn how to play all over again - which took him 6 YRs.
Holy crap that is a killer tone and that riff. Pheeew. Awsome. I need to revisit out some Danzig i think
That was really good, the tone was spot on, the bleed thru was the key to that tone.. Live band in a room, I have been getting a lot of bleed thru from using the sm58 on my amp and sometimes I forget to turn the monitors off when I sing... Great video... Really good tone.. Happy Halloween
You will be surprised at how many producers don't mind forgoing headphones when tracking vocals.
Danzig my all time fav band - good effort here man, posted this to the 7th house FB page!
Thanks man. Sharing is really helpful.
Great album & best Danzig line up ever. In fact the first 4 Danzig albums are awesome. You did a great job recreating the sound.
Thanks man. Yep anything after those albums had a hired gun feel about it.
Yesssssssss ... John Christ had the best tone. Thick and chewy, but also clear and bright. How is that even possible? Uh, I guess you just answered it. Great video. Rick Rubin's work with Danzig, Slayer, SOAD, groundbreaking classic guitar tones.
Try a Laney GH50/100 with the drive on, using the low input. Wink wink.
Can you believe there are people out there that hate Rick Rubins productions? The fuk
I love how excited he gets about this stuff man!!
Great effort , I think you really nailed it on the hard hitting sound of Danzig.....excellent and subscribed
Thanks man. Welcome to the Circle
Dude... That was killer! I had this Danzig on cassette when it first came out, and I love it to this day. Keep up the stellar work! \m/
Unearthly. You nailed it.
Sucks that those guys couldn't get along. Danzig after the split-up has been decent but nothing compared to the classic lineup.
You nailed the tone BTW.
Thanks man. Yep it's a shame.
Twist of Cain, OH YEAH!! 🤘
Fair play mate, that was spot on (as far as I can tell)! 👏
Great info and simple ideas to make a recording unique. Thank you for all your effort
Awesome bro! Always loved the classic Danzig tone, Thx. again!!
FYI, Brad Jetter from Jetter pedals was the guy behind Bedrock amps. If you need info, he is the guy to ask.
2:45 Goosebumps pal! Great detective work, very few will appreciate the work you've presented here. Thank you !!!
I got to see Danzig open up for Type O Neg on their Bloody Kisses album.... freaking awesome show. Life of Agony opened too... they were on their River Runs Red tour...... Aahhhh the 90's. When bands played live and there was a metal concert in town at least once a week.
God damn what a lineup. If you hear my Red Fang video, you hear my Life Of Agony influence on my vocals.
Life of Agony -river runs red. album is one of my all time faves.
I think you got that turned around Type O Negative opened for Danzig. I remember that tour.
Saw him probably in 91/92 and white zombie opened up for them and then again about a year or two later and Gwar opened up for them if memory serves me correctly 🤔
@@1thess523 saw Danzig a lot bc I live in NJ but yeah I saw white zombie open for Danzig as well at the Ritz in Manhattan
Your bluntness is much needed. You get it. Good video!
Awesome video, I have always loved that song and album!
Thanks Nathan.
Your channel is so great. Thank you!
Awesome. Best rock guitar tone ever. Clean and punchy
Awesome work bro !
Oh my that's really, really, really really close...but you're right when you mentioned recording to tape, the saturation and compression you get recording to tape is the final icing to the mix, not only for the guitar sound, the entire recording. Great job!!
Nailed it again. Danzig rules. Thanks for another great vid!!
Hey Owen, great video! You make a great point, it's the little things that make all the difference. That's something that can be hard to wrap one's head around when first learning to record, but little things add up. And btw, I hate PRS too.
You’re so brilliant. I would have loved to have you as my bands producer back in the day
Thanks man. Means a lot.
I was sure you're gonna play Twist of Cain! Great video again, spot on.
amazing! you went deep. Love it!
Excellent recreation Owen, you nailed it. As a now semi-reformed punk I grew up on the Misfits, Samhain & Danzig.
Rubin is one of my faves as well, the way he works with each artist to get the best out of them is amazing.
Yep. He really does have his fingers on the pulse of what works. His Cash/hurt cover album took 10 years to put together but the result was perfect.
CIRCLE OF TONE. I really liked what he did with the Chili Peppers on BSSM. That was their last good record as far as I’m concerned, but damn Frusciante tore it up. I was just listening to the Rubin/Cash stuff a couple of days ago. Sooo glad those 2 worked together, there’s some bone chilling shit on those records.
Ghost!!!
My middle school years starting in 7th grade (1987) up till about 1993 was all about The Misfits, Samhain, and Danzig. The summer of 1993 i found east bay pop punk and melodic hardcore and forgot about those 3 bands.
John Christ says in a interview on Nothing Shocking UA-cam page that he used Marshall in the heyday.
Very very good sir! The bleed definitely helped..sick tones
I saw danzig when I was really young, and this song always stands out in my memories of that show. I think you damn near nailed it! Really impressive!
Thanks man.
Superb! Great information.
I just got a 1st press of this recently. Strange, I picked up Masters of Reality on vinyl but not this in 1988. Another Rubin production.
Top respect for doing all that detective work lol. You have the sound nailed
Nice work, sir.
Respect from Belfast.
I couldn't click fast enough. Really awesome video. Loved it.
Thanks Rene.
Excellent playing really nailed this one!
Thanks man.
The mix was great. I love the idea of using a second amp to create a live sound.
Hey...
What an effort recreating wonderful sounds of yesteryear. My first thought when i heard your record was : "there is no way to get this more sexy soundin"... fu.. yeah!!!
This tone really complimented and let Danzig’s vocals shine in the mix.
I love that album!!! Just bought it on vinyl.
Amazing video with so much info to process. And if you're going to do King Diamond (though you'll likely do, you know, 'Halloween') you have GOT to do 'Haunted' instead, my favorite song of all and perfect for this time of year. (And I'd love to know how they got that guitar tone in the beginning.)
I''m drifting between KD era or Mercyful Fate era on which guitars I'm covering.
Dont Break the Oath!
Please do Mercyful Fate! Dont break the Oath!!!!!
I actually listened to every word you said in this video, thank you. I've been trying to capture the same tone myself, never got it, always loved it.
The best part of this video is the reverb tip. I sit on the floor in my bathroom every morning playing my guitar with a fender bullet reverb amp under the sink and the sound in the rectangular bathroom is amazing. My wife thinks I'm a little nuts, but it sounds too good to really stop doing. Now I need to spend money on a plexi, ugh.
Rock on!
A good cheap option is a used bugera 1960 head. It does a good plexi tone.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE thank you!
Danzig II: Lucifuge has quite possibly the best guitar tone ever
I was just listening to that album and I swear to god, if he's not playing through a JMP 2203 or a near IDENTICAL circuit, I will kiss everyone's ass.
Very impressive ol boy good job.
Cheers!
Yeah bro that old Danzig shit definitely has that low gain, high clarity, Plexi sound.
Your best yet????.. maybe maybe...
Thanks man! I think my Iron Maiden was my best, but both got dinged by UA-cam wave file matching so I fooled the algorithm into thinking my tracks were the actual original so the Danzig one is close :-)
This is my favourite one.
nice work - thanks
Man you're obsessed and crazy, I love it haha great video.
well made vid you did your research. thumbs up.
John talked a little bit about his set up during the interviews we just recently did with him
that sounded pretty close m8 good job!
I love that thunderbird bass....
It is a beast. Bargain for thick big bass.
looks cool, but for me it's uncomfortable to play.
I've recorded two "garage" albums with this exact epiphone model and I simply love the tone, it steals so much room from the other guys instruments hahaha
Awesome vid. Great work. I loved his tone on the "how the gods kill" album. Left Hand black and Dirty Black Summer have this gnarly, dark, kick ass tone. Can you do one on getting that tone?
Thankyou for this John Christ is my fav🤘
Ive got to say, im impressed. Very good work.
Thanks Bry. Appreciate it.
My favorite guitar tone of all time.
Yep it's a one of a kind.
I think you solved the mystery ! Amazing ! I've always loved this tone but never even came close to figuring out how he got it. I think you should call Scotland Yard and the F.B.I. right now and demand them to send you a stack of dead cases so you can put your amazing talent for forensic science to work !
Haha. Thanks man. I am the Alex Jones of Tone.
you really just blew my mind!
The most underrated instrument in the world... the live room. Interestingly enough when you come to do Venom. Some mates of mine were recording in Impulse during the same time period and the entire live room, including the ceiling, was covered in carpet to create a fairly acoustically dead live room.
At about 8:30, a wah pedal is a variable filter, a capacitor can be used to filter the high or low end, not a buffer. A buffer prevents different stages in a circuit to overload each other. Capacitors are commonly used to create passive filters in conjunction with resistors.
Love the Commodore shirt!
I started producing music with the old piano keyboard overlay in the 80's haha
I used to get a pretty good approximation of John Christ's tone through my old Peavy Bandit 112 w/ a Peavy Vortex2. I may be suffering from a touch of nostalgic wishful remembrance, but I swear nonetheless it was damn close. Still have the Vortex, wish I still had that Bandit; was a damn fine little combo!
Love your videos!
Thanks man. Nostalgia tone just cost me $140. Buying an old pedal I used back in the day. Haha.
You got close because he used a yamaha g50 112 practice amp lol.
Nailed that killer tone! 🤘
Fucking brilliant lad. Nice one!!! 10/10
Thanks Chris.
Great vid as well man!!
Thanks man
I love that guitar. The white burst is killer!
Has anyone ever called you a forensic ampologist? Might be a new profession. Good job again on this one Owen.
Playing the Danzig in a Commodore shirt, you sir are my spirit twin.
Hehe
Awesome analysis and technique! Always thought his tone had an ACDC vibe.
Thanks man.
I have a Bedrock 1400 series 50 watt head. It nails the tone, put a white face rat for some extra kick, and twist like cain! it was the first amp head i bought while i was a teenager, and i blew it up once, had it rebuilt, and it is my secret tone weapon.
It’s crazy how heavy the tone is with just a slight bit of Gain to it.
I'd love to see you get into the VHT tones he was using for Danzig II -4p. Danzig III has an absolutely smoking rhythm tone.
This is extremely accurate to Danzig 1's (1988) guitar tone. Especially the recorded tracks. As I recall John had a more overdriven crunchy tone live. I noticed how John's tone got heavier there after. From Lucifuge, How the God's Kill, Thrall (e.p.) and Danzig 4. That being said very well done.
Thanks man
Danzig’s one of my favorite ‘s awesome COT!