@@BoomerShroomerin some places gardeners use trichoderma for killing plant pestilence and in my country 20 grams of dry trichoderma cost not so cheap 😢
After some time, taking care of my Golden babies, I was able to see cute, little pins 🥰This was heart warming. Today my hart just broke... They turned blue 🥺😢
Oh, sorry... It's too late now. Because after mild depression and heart shattering into millions of pieces, I shaved about 1cm from the top of the cake and made emergency flush. Two days later I saw one pin, most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It's healthy. Named him "hope". Yeah, I know, bit gay, but whatever 😊
is it safe to dispose of contaminated substrate in the country? So many animals are drawn to stinky stuff. Plus, we have three standard poodles we don't want in it. Throw it into our woods?
Just curious, if you kept the one that was still able to fruit despite contamination, and cultured more from it, could you eventually get more contamination resistant mushrooms??
Not entirely sure but if that was possible im positive someone has already tried and clearly not succeeded as there is no trich resistant mushrooms im aware of
Do not do this you could potentially cross breed mushrooms on accident it would be rare but possible to create a poisonous mushroom this way very dangerous most mushrooms can’t crossbreed with one another but it’s not worth the risk of killing someone or yourself
So what causes the mold? I have green mold that pops up from time to time and seemingly out of the blue. I've reduced my water to 10 cups when making coco coir substrate in a 5 gallon bucket.
Hi Ashley, what about little fruit flies or fungus gnats. I just noticed a couple in my monotub this morning when I was fanning. Can I still continue to grow or should I throw it out? Can it be controlled? I have some rather large fruiting happening in this tub and its my first time starting to see a good flush. Ill be devastated if I have to throw this one out. :(
Great. I'm trying the automated method. I get great pin starts, but they stop growing or grow lanky in many directions. Humidy is on target and have fae at 15min every hour. Could this be too much FAE as humidity fluctuates between 80 and 92% during exchange? Or still not enough FAE? Thank you!
My bulk substrate had tiny green mold from the surface and i removed using salt and sanitizer, no more green mold and a healthy flush came out the other side of the bulk (the clean one) and no it doesn't touch any mold at all, so is this flush is edible?
I believe my mono just did this. Everything went amazing started seeing pins.!!! Then boom nothing 1 tiny tiny mushroom. Waited a month and nothing finally dumped it today. Believe i seen some lind of mold in the substrate even smelled. Did not even get 1 flush
I have been having that green mold. It usually starts after the second or third flush but the past couple of bins its been there before the pinning starts. i use a 1:4 bleach solution (reccomended by midwest grow supplies) and then i put the bins in my bathroom and use this UVC lamp for 20 minutes. I at first thought the mold was from too much moisture. This may be a dumb question but what is the the green mold from? Also, if there is a better way for sanitation between cycles after the substrate is done im all ears. thank you and i love your videos!
It is very likely trichoderma. It was likely in your tub/substrate/grains before you spawned. Sanitize everything more thoroughly during your process then don't mess with it too much
@@MasoNowa thank you! I bought an Ozone maker and did a much more thorough cleaning during the transfer from grain jars to bins and i am happy to report this strain is on its 3rd flush with no contams!
@Gideon Pioneer ozone generator. It will kill everything living after a few hours in a closed room. I then have a filter set up in front of windows for when I run in open windows, and let fresh air back into room.
I researched trichoderma, it’s common and looks like green/blue mold. It is a fungus. It eats the same nutrients as mushrooms and also can/will eat the mycelium and the mushrooms if it can. Trichoderma mold fungi appeared on top of soil of an all in one grow bag within a couple hours of cutting bag open for FAE (the cut in bag was made over 1 week after pins were visible, so it was technically during fruiting, I guess. According to my research, trichoderma exists in all soils all over the world. Mold on bread is often trichoderma and it is not harmful to humans. You can spray 3% hydrogen peroxide on it as soon as you notice it in order to slow trichoderma spread if it’s just on top layer and you want to allow your mushrooms 72 hours or less to finish fruiting. Also you can use a “torch lighter” and burn the moldy spots on the dirt or mushrooms as soon as you see it. So I used hydrogen peroxide and lighter method and then ate my mushrooms raw and I was fine. I researched and found that trich loves high humidity (as do mushrooms) but trichoderma also likes temperate about 5-10 degrees higher than some shrooms so you can decrease temp a bit to less than 75 or 80 Fahrenheit. If I remember trichoderma thrives in 80degree fahrenheit temp-or higher. Also to prevent trich from the start, wikihow website reccommends try to start soil with mushrooms friendly ph by adding lime to soil. Maybe if you notice a tiny bit starting in tiny spot the you could burn the mild with torch llighter, spray with 3% hydrogen peroxide and maybe put lime mineral or salt on cut edge of soil to make the PH of soil a bit “less friendly” to trichoderma but more friendly to mushroom. Now all this being said, it spreads quickly and can easily contaminate other bins & tubs so if you have a lot of bins & product you’ll want the contaminated one gone or in a separate space from the rest! I read that if you see the green/blue mold of trichoderma then its spores are likely already in the AIR or they will be in the air soon. I’m a beginner not an expert. This is all info I researched online. But I also tried the hydrogen peroxide and torch lighter method with success a few days ago! My crop yield was small and the mushrooms were also literally very tiny . However, I ate the little babies, raw, 3 times. They tasted as usual and were potent! (I found info through google, a website called Double Blind, several UA-cam channels, wikihow, etc. I plan on burying the cake outside in private woods once fruiting/flushes have completed as long as different contamination does not occur~ especially anything dangerous to consume. I am u sure if it’s ok to bury any contaminated cake or if it’s only the trichoderma contamination that’s safe and fine since it already exists in almost every/any garden or outdoor soil. [last week was my first time trying to grow! It’s very fascinating and fun!] Good luck all ~ wishing you health, joy, and fun.
@779RosaPhilipovna , this is definitely the answer. pH neutral or slightly basic and using calcium hydroxide. Most pathogen require a acidic environment.
Harvested first flush of mushrooms. Got lots of pins and some small mushrooms so far for second flush, but everything stopped growing. No growth in 3 days. Can't find obvious contamination. Should I harvest the few small ones and rehydrate the cake? This is my first tub, so I am not very experienced.
You're not supposed to let them sporulate. It does not make new mushrooms grow on your substrate. If they're psychoactive you need to harvest before they release spores. If they're normal eating mushrooms then it's fine.
At this stage of the game, you don't have to be as sterile. Plus you want fresh air displacing the C02 air that the mushrooms are making. But either way I am sure will grow mushrooms.
This is good advice despite the dismissive "at this stage you don't have to be as sterile" reply. Negative/positive air pressure should always be considered in an indoor grow environment. Be it mushrooms or plants
orange/yellow may possibly be metabolites. I have some small pools of yellow drops (looks like urine lol) and some slight shades of orange in the mycelium (i don't use liners) and from what I understand, it's metabolites or antibiotics the mycelium is releasing to fight off contaminates. I also read it could be because your spawn or substrate is too wet. Generally, nothing to worry about, but monitor closely.
@@andrewolfgang389 thanks for the reply I ended up tossing a few shoebox tubs because they never went into fruit. Never molded though just had those orange spots.i believe you are right my grain was a little on the wet side.
Me watching you stir the mold up with your hands: 😱🤯😳 😂 I don't like to assume that this happened with attempted subsequent flushes, so I ask, was this an attempt for a second, third or fourth flush? I've had contam issues with a greater percentage of my tubs when attempting a second flush and I hear some people getting as many as 5 flushes from one tub. I just don't see how. Do you have any videos on rehydration and subsequent flushes? Thanks for your videos
@@BoomerShroomerThat's cool. Was this mold problem during an attempted subsequent flush or was it a first run? Do you have any videos explaining how you get 2-3 flushes? I saw in one of your videos that you mentioned that you have a 25% contamination rate even with all your sanitary protocol. Have you reduced that? I'm fairly new myself. I began absorbing as much info as I could in 2022 and began full throttle in 2023. My biggest problem is trichoderma. I love your exuberance and that you've already got your own product line... that's pretty cool.
Put the fan in the room near the tub, not pointed directly at it. You just need some slight air movement in the room for FAE. Personally I just leave the window cracked 😝
First time. Entered fruiting stage 4 days ago. Today I noticed pooling in 2 areas and it’s yellow water! Then I noticed a few reddish specks on the mycelium. Using a monotub and the red is on one side…is it salvageable?
Take your old cakes outside, dig a 20 cm hole or so, layer substrate and leaves and your broken up cakes, fill the hole, ontop lay a bag over the top and lay dirt around the outside to sumwhat seal it into the earth, make sure its not in direct sunlight all day... once a week carefully remove dirt from the top and the plastic bag and pour a litre or 2 of water over your outdoories, after a few months youl start to see mushrooms if works, im in qld australia and i just had a massive outdoor flush of alacabenzi from cakes turned into a garden bed
I think you might have to toss it. Can you reach out to me on Instagram or Facebook with pictures? Also be careful opening the tub cause the mold spores can get out and contaminate other tubs.
You don’t have to throw it away boil honey and water let it cool. Add peroxide. Take the substrate out spread it out on something sterile mist it and mist it mist it and mix use a blow dryer dry it only moist and look for contamination sterilize your tub and start over again 🤷🏽. Seems to be working for me
Hi Ashley. Love your videos because you get to the point and speak clearly (despite your accent). But please don’t say things like, “Throw away your tub.” I had to listen more closely to hear you say that you thoroughly clean the tub and throw away everything INSIDE. I was wondering why you were throwing away perfectly good tubs.
@@BoomerShroomer hmm i dont think there is contamination but it stopped producing fruits a whyle ago. i know it is full of spores and mycelium, it has Albino A+ shrooms inside. my idea was to try to revive it somehow but the medium is depleted. know of any tips? or do i just get a new batch?
@@BoomerShroomer yeah that's the whole thing, i did 6 flushes out of it and wanted to magically extend it. saw a video of a guy once that just added dirt and buried in the backyard then got a few more flushes but that just sounds like a bad idea to me due to the many risks of contamination. instead of just throwing the thing out i was asking for some kind of miracle. i also bought vermiculite perlite and rice flower but i think i need to sterilize it and i dont have a pressure cooker. any ideas? do i trow it out and try to start from scratch with a very faint spore print i made?
@@BoomerShroomer I think so. Such a learning process. I’ve contaminated two out of two in their substrate. Going to try again here after my current grain spawn fills up with mycelium again. This time I hope it works! Want to harvest some mushrooms 🥰
@@josephdavis8074 maybe but I am really not sure. I just did an experiment without a casing layer and they did very well. I would say if you don’t have to do one then you don’t need to.
@@BoomerShroomer I’ve read a decent amount about it lately and it seems to be an unnecessary step. Lots of people apply pseudoscience to their practices.
@@BoomerShroomer Im saying Ive been running into contamination with my bulk subs, been putting a little coffee in there, coco coir, vemiculite, pasteurizing. Tips to avoid contaming with bulk sub?
@@BoomerShroomer yes, Ive been putting the bulk substrate in the oven at 170 for 2 hours (lowest temp), but Ive read some people doing it for 10 hours+. Tips?
Hey thanks for the video....so I have two tubs and neither one is fruiting....I think I put too much colonized grain and not enough substrate...is there anything I can do so they fruit...I'm desperately needing help...thanks...oh I have no contamination and they are about 20 days now with fruiting condition...it looks like it has sealed itself over on top...
You can try to spray the sub lightly with 70% isopropyl and it might kill the cobweb. I would recommend picking everything and tossing the tub. Could potentially contaminate other tubs.
So I have a question I haven’t been able to find an answer to. It’s commonly stated in tutorials to not spray the mycelium directly. I happened to have done so prior to reviewing that fact, and *it seems* as though only after a few days post doing so, that I noticed some green/blueish areas that seemed to correspond to where there was a decent amount of standing water on the mycelium. It doesn’t stink, and after a week minimal (only several) aborts appeared and the mycelium is sort of gathering and slightly thickening around the blue/green areas. The tub doesn’t stink, and the green/blue patches don’t have any spore formation that has occurred over this week, and doesn’t quite resemble the green dusting mold I have dealt with in quite a few GS jars. Prior to this, the surface seemed healthy and white/healthy mostly across. The tub has never stunk at all.. Sorry for such a long story.. but.. could these areas simply be the “bruising” that can occur from direct spraying? I can’t seem to find any descriptions of what this bruising that is referred to in guidance to not directly mist the mycelium. My main complaint here is the mycelium entering fruiting seems to be dramatically stunted. Just looking for some tips on the bruising question and what I might try to get this thing to fruit.. :/ .. I have been misting the sides when dry daily, fanning twice per day, temp fluctuates between 70-78, have fine misted the mycelium and put a good flowing fan on it immediately after for 5-10 min every 2-3 days.. just sorta lost.
Sounds like bruising but just take a q-tip and gently swab the area. If there’s green dust on the swab it’s probably mold. If nothing’s rubbing off then it’s probably bruising. Can’t confirm from personal experience yet, but that’s what I’ve heard from several people.
I question this lady's abilities, mainly on the fact of, look how she cut the hole and mounting for that fan on the right.....it does nothing, no air flow.....she cut out the center....where there's no blades or air flow.....and if that's how she builds, imagine how she grows....
Girl why are you digging in that mold you are kicking up all sorts of spores and going right into your lungs. Please wear a mask and gloves when you doing this. And you're pretty lady who's super smart and I like watching your videos I don't want you to be sick.
Only way to stop contam is to pressurize your grow space with HEPA filtered air that is what I have done and I have no contamination issues now!
Great idea!
How would you achieve that
@@kaiyawarren1890 Google PAS750 ABATEMENT TECHNOLOGIES that is what I used
Edit......It should be less money in USA if you live there
@@benreed4918 yeah for 1k nah
@@ghost-carnage8964 you can get a HEPA filter on Amazon for 200 🙏🏿
First time viewer and instant sub because you touched the contam bros. xD
Thank you!
contams brahhh
@@sceplecture2382 you're gunna CONTAMBRAH!!!
Stay chubby🤙
That's stuff could be very dangerous.
Blessings to you for digging through those tubs! I cringed the whole time! I just toss a cake if its under producing.
You're so good at this! Will keep watching and learning as much as i can before i do my first batch. Thank you so much for the awesome content!
As chubbs would say, "you're gunna contambrah!"
lol
I am the 1,000th subscriber, woot!
Yay!! Thank you!! Been waiting a long time for this day!!
I would suggest throwing the contamed stuff in a compost spot or tub and letting the stuff break down for possible re use later on.
I’ve been digging holes in the back yard and barring it. Lol
I feed it to my earthworms which feeds my quail for tasty eggs.
@@BoomerShroomerin some places gardeners use trichoderma for killing plant pestilence and in my country 20 grams of dry trichoderma cost not so cheap 😢
After some time, taking care of my Golden babies, I was able to see cute, little pins 🥰This was heart warming.
Today my hart just broke... They turned blue 🥺😢
Too dry or too wet?? Can you reach out to me on Instagram with pics?
Oh, sorry... It's too late now. Because after mild depression and heart shattering into millions of pieces, I shaved about 1cm from the top of the cake and made emergency flush. Two days later I saw one pin, most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It's healthy. Named him "hope". Yeah, I know, bit gay, but whatever 😊
Oh... And why did I get contamination? Because I watched too many videos and stared to mist my little farm
@@iamgroot4080 how u known it was contamination and not bruising from your iver water?
Ashley, you're a star.
Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühe.
is it safe to dispose of contaminated substrate in the country? So many animals are drawn to stinky stuff. Plus, we have three standard poodles we don't want in it. Throw it into our woods?
Just curious, if you kept the one that was still able to fruit despite contamination, and cultured more from it, could you eventually get more contamination resistant mushrooms??
Not entirely sure but if that was possible im positive someone has already tried and clearly not succeeded as there is no trich resistant mushrooms im aware of
just because the mushroom still grows could just mean that the contamination hasn't gotten to that area yet.
Do not do this you could potentially cross breed mushrooms on accident it would be rare but possible to create a poisonous mushroom this way very dangerous most mushrooms can’t crossbreed with one another but it’s not worth the risk of killing someone or yourself
@@tannerroberts1273 You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
@@tannerroberts1273 crossing Trich with mushrooms is like crossing a chicken with a fox...they are completely different organisms..
Really great job teaching about growing. Thank you. Do you only grow with your specific mix of coco, vermiculite and gypsum ? Would other media work ?
So what causes the mold? I have green mold that pops up from time to time and seemingly out of the blue. I've reduced my water to 10 cups when making coco coir substrate in a 5 gallon bucket.
Hi Ashley, what about little fruit flies or fungus gnats. I just noticed a couple in my monotub this morning when I was fanning. Can I still continue to grow or should I throw it out? Can it be controlled? I have some rather large fruiting happening in this tub and its my first time starting to see a good flush. Ill be devastated if I have to throw this one out. :(
Great. I'm trying the automated method. I get great pin starts, but they stop growing or grow lanky in many directions. Humidy is on target and have fae at 15min every hour. Could this be too much FAE as humidity fluctuates between 80 and 92% during exchange? Or still not enough FAE? Thank you!
Look forward to more, good job!
Thank you! I really appreciate it! :-)
Do you throw the plastic tub itself or do you clean it and how (after green mold for example)?
My bulk substrate had tiny green mold from the surface and i removed using salt and sanitizer, no more green mold and a healthy flush came out the other side of the bulk (the clean one) and no it doesn't touch any mold at all, so is this flush is edible?
How much do these monotubs yield per cut?
what about slime mold, my one and only monotub is contaminate by slime mold. Any tips how to remove slime mold?
I believe my mono just did this. Everything went amazing started seeing pins.!!! Then boom nothing 1 tiny tiny mushroom. Waited a month and nothing finally dumped it today. Believe i seen some lind of mold in the substrate even smelled. Did not even get 1 flush
I have been having that green mold. It usually starts after the second or third flush but the past couple of bins its been there before the pinning starts. i use a 1:4 bleach solution (reccomended by midwest grow supplies) and then i put the bins in my bathroom and use this UVC lamp for 20 minutes. I at first thought the mold was from too much moisture. This may be a dumb question but what is the the green mold from? Also, if there is a better way for sanitation between cycles after the substrate is done im all ears. thank you and i love your videos!
It is very likely trichoderma. It was likely in your tub/substrate/grains before you spawned. Sanitize everything more thoroughly during your process then don't mess with it too much
@@MasoNowa thank you! I bought an Ozone maker and did a much more thorough cleaning during the transfer from grain jars to bins and i am happy to report this strain is on its 3rd flush with no contams!
@Gideon Pioneer ozone generator. It will kill everything living after a few hours in a closed room. I then have a filter set up in front of windows for when I run in open windows, and let fresh air back into room.
I researched trichoderma, it’s common and looks like green/blue mold. It is a fungus. It eats the same nutrients as mushrooms and also can/will eat the mycelium and the mushrooms if it can. Trichoderma mold fungi appeared on top of soil of an all in one grow bag within a couple hours of cutting bag open for FAE (the cut in bag was made over 1 week after pins were visible, so it was technically during fruiting, I guess. According to my research, trichoderma exists in all soils all over the world. Mold on bread is often trichoderma and it is not harmful to humans. You can spray 3% hydrogen peroxide on it as soon as you notice it in order to slow trichoderma spread if it’s just on top layer and you want to allow your mushrooms 72 hours or less to finish fruiting. Also you can use a “torch lighter” and burn the moldy spots on the dirt or mushrooms as soon as you see it. So I used hydrogen peroxide and lighter method and then ate my mushrooms raw and I was fine. I researched and found that trich loves high humidity (as do mushrooms) but trichoderma also likes temperate about 5-10 degrees higher than some shrooms so you can decrease temp a bit to less than 75 or 80 Fahrenheit. If I remember trichoderma thrives in 80degree fahrenheit temp-or higher. Also to prevent trich from the start, wikihow website reccommends try to start soil with mushrooms friendly ph by adding lime to soil. Maybe if you notice a tiny bit starting in tiny spot the you could burn the mild with torch llighter, spray with 3% hydrogen peroxide and maybe put lime mineral or salt on cut edge of soil to make the PH of soil a bit “less friendly” to trichoderma but more friendly to mushroom. Now all this being said, it spreads quickly and can easily contaminate other bins & tubs so if you have a lot of bins & product you’ll want the contaminated one gone or in a separate space from the rest! I read that if you see the green/blue mold of trichoderma then its spores are likely already in the AIR or they will be in the air soon. I’m a beginner not an expert. This is all info I researched online. But I also tried the hydrogen peroxide and torch lighter method with success a few days ago! My crop yield was small and the mushrooms were also literally very tiny . However, I ate the little babies, raw, 3 times. They tasted as usual and were potent! (I found info through google, a website called Double Blind, several UA-cam channels, wikihow, etc. I plan on burying the cake outside in private woods once fruiting/flushes have completed as long as different contamination does not occur~ especially anything dangerous to consume. I am u sure if it’s ok to bury any contaminated cake or if it’s only the trichoderma contamination that’s safe and fine since it already exists in almost every/any garden or outdoor soil. [last week was my first time trying to grow! It’s very fascinating and fun!] Good luck all ~ wishing you health, joy, and fun.
@779RosaPhilipovna , this is definitely the answer. pH neutral or slightly basic and using calcium hydroxide. Most pathogen require a acidic environment.
Harvested first flush of mushrooms. Got lots of pins and some small mushrooms so far for second flush, but everything stopped growing. No growth in 3 days. Can't find obvious contamination. Should I harvest the few small ones and rehydrate the cake? This is my first tub, so I am not very experienced.
I’m dealing with the same situation, did this work out for you?
I allowed my shrooms to open and sporilate. Now it’s brown on top of substrate. Shrooms are still growing fine.. is everything still good?
You're not supposed to let them sporulate. It does not make new mushrooms grow on your substrate. If they're psychoactive you need to harvest before they release spores. If they're normal eating mushrooms then it's fine.
But yes your substrate was fine (3 months ago lol)
Yes, I do love you!
I see a fan in 1 tub, does that move the CO2 and help with air flow? Would adding a tiny air pump help with or without a fan??
Love your hair color! Thanks for your awesome videos :)
You are so welcome! Thank you!
I'm reassured to know it happens to the experts as well. Thanks.
Your monotube has one big mistake! contaminants enter through the fan. Either place a filter in front of the fan, or turn it over to suck air out.
At this stage of the game, you don't have to be as sterile. Plus you want fresh air displacing the C02 air that the mushrooms are making. But either way I am sure will grow mushrooms.
This is good advice despite the dismissive "at this stage you don't have to be as sterile" reply. Negative/positive air pressure should always be considered in an indoor grow environment. Be it mushrooms or plants
Hey Ashley I have noticed a orange spot or 2 in one of my tubs is it from water pooling or could it be some kind of bacteria/mould?
I would highly suggest joining a mushroom growing community in Reddit. Great communications and friendly helpful environment
orange/yellow may possibly be metabolites. I have some small pools of yellow drops (looks like urine lol) and some slight shades of orange in the mycelium (i don't use liners) and from what I understand, it's metabolites or antibiotics the mycelium is releasing to fight off contaminates. I also read it could be because your spawn or substrate is too wet. Generally, nothing to worry about, but monitor closely.
@@andrewolfgang389 thanks for the reply I ended up tossing a few shoebox tubs because they never went into fruit. Never molded though just had those orange spots.i believe you are right my grain was a little on the wet side.
@@egt22c Reddit friendly? lol. I'm trying to fix my life, not add MORE problems. Yall got anything on discord?
Me watching you stir the mold up with your hands: 😱🤯😳
😂
I don't like to assume that this happened with attempted subsequent flushes, so I ask, was this an attempt for a second, third or fourth flush? I've had contam issues with a greater percentage of my tubs when attempting a second flush and I hear some people getting as many as 5 flushes from one tub. I just don't see how. Do you have any videos on rehydration and subsequent flushes? Thanks for your videos
I usually get 2-3 flushes. If I do get more it is just a few mushrooms. This is an old video. I was still learning.
@@BoomerShroomerThat's cool. Was this mold problem during an attempted subsequent flush or was it a first run? Do you have any videos explaining how you get 2-3 flushes? I saw in one of your videos that you mentioned that you have a 25% contamination rate even with all your sanitary protocol. Have you reduced that? I'm fairly new myself. I began absorbing as much info as I could in 2022 and began full throttle in 2023. My biggest problem is trichoderma.
I love your exuberance and that you've already got your own product line... that's pretty cool.
Can I sterilize the tubs and reuse them after a good cleaning or do I have to throw the tubs out too?
You can reuse the tub after you clean them.
@@BoomerShroomer Thank you so much for your response. Very kind of you.
My bulk grow hasn't colonized. I tried a brf jar and colonized that then transferred info a bulk container and now it hasn't colonized the large tub
When did you transfer to the bulk substrate? Can you reach out to me on instagram and send me a pic?
@@BoomerShroomer yes I can. What's your tag?
@@RiceLaboratoriesandScreening instagram.com/boomershroom/
Quick question… I was thinking about using a mini fan in my monotub. Should the fan be blowing in or out of the tub?
Put the fan in the room near the tub, not pointed directly at it. You just need some slight air movement in the room for FAE. Personally I just leave the window cracked 😝
Was that a microgreen growing in one of the tubs? 😊
Yep, that happened to one of my tubs recently lol
So what caused it I think thats the most important thing you left out
First time. Entered fruiting stage 4 days ago. Today I noticed pooling in 2 areas and it’s yellow water! Then I noticed a few reddish specks on the mycelium. Using a monotub and the red is on one side…is it salvageable?
Can you send a pic to my email? Ashley@boomershroomer.com
If the tub has run out of nutrients, could you take half out, add new substrate and mix it all together?
I wouldn’t. Start new.
Take your old cakes outside, dig a 20 cm hole or so, layer substrate and leaves and your broken up cakes, fill the hole, ontop lay a bag over the top and lay dirt around the outside to sumwhat seal it into the earth, make sure its not in direct sunlight all day... once a week carefully remove dirt from the top and the plastic bag and pour a litre or 2 of water over your outdoories, after a few months youl start to see mushrooms if works, im in qld australia and i just had a massive outdoor flush of alacabenzi from cakes turned into a garden bed
What if there's a little green mold.on the tub of the substrate in tubs what do you recommend?
I think you might have to toss it. Can you reach out to me on Instagram or Facebook with pictures? Also be careful opening the tub cause the mold spores can get out and contaminate other tubs.
@@BoomerShroomer my ig is only4familia msg me.or whats you ig ill send you pics
what is the orange in the containers?
Thanks for the info
But why didnt the first tub have enough nutrients?
Would a casing layer helped in these situations?
Been told so idk haven't grown
Ah it freaks me out the way you are touching the mold
Im always terrified of disposing of contaminates. Makes me want to toss the entire tub or jars
I like pressure cooking contaminated jars before emptying them out
How long was your actual fruiting period?
About 2 weeks.
You don’t have to throw it away boil honey and water let it cool. Add peroxide. Take the substrate out spread it out on something sterile mist it and mist it mist it and mix use a blow dryer dry it only moist and look for contamination sterilize your tub and start over again 🤷🏽. Seems to be working for me
I can’t figure out why mine didn’t pin.
Hi Ashley. Love your videos because you get to the point and speak clearly (despite your accent).
But please don’t say things like, “Throw away your tub.” I had to listen more closely to hear you say that you thoroughly clean the tub and throw away everything INSIDE. I was wondering why you were throwing away perfectly good tubs.
Does this have something to do with your ingredients for substrare?
No, it just eventually got mold.
Would it be too risky to leave the tubs soaking In bleach for a day to completely disinfect them?
You really don't need to do that. I just spray mine down with 70% isopropyl.
Is there any way possible to get a substrate to work again? Like pass it to a monotub and break it and add new food?
Does the substrate have contamination? If not you could resterilize it and use it again.
@@BoomerShroomer hmm i dont think there is contamination but it stopped producing fruits a whyle ago. i know it is full of spores and mycelium, it has Albino A+ shrooms inside. my idea was to try to revive it somehow but the medium is depleted. know of any tips? or do i just get a new batch?
@@iisop1 you can try to rehydrate it. Soak the whole cake for about two hours then drain and it should produce another flush.
@@BoomerShroomer yeah that's the whole thing, i did 6 flushes out of it and wanted to magically extend it. saw a video of a guy once that just added dirt and buried in the backyard then got a few more flushes but that just sounds like a bad idea to me due to the many risks of contamination. instead of just throwing the thing out i was asking for some kind of miracle. i also bought vermiculite perlite and rice flower but i think i need to sterilize it and i dont have a pressure cooker. any ideas? do i trow it out and try to start from scratch with a very faint spore print i made?
oh and thank you for the reply by the way. really appreciate it
How do you disinfect your tubs? Soak in bleach?
It’s isopropyl alcohol 70%. I wipe it down several times before.
How should your substrate smell when trying to cultivate your mycelium before fruiting?
Really earthy. I think it smells good. lol Anything foal is contamination.
@@BoomerShroomer darn I must have contamination
@@cryptointegrations9854 might be. Too much moisture maybe?
@@BoomerShroomer I think so. Such a learning process. I’ve contaminated two out of two in their substrate. Going to try again here after my current grain spawn fills up with mycelium again. This time I hope it works! Want to harvest some mushrooms 🥰
@@cryptointegrations9854 did you pasteurize the substrate correctly? Can you reach out to me on Instagram with some pics?
If the white mycelium has grown together and is solid and white is it mold ?
No, I don't think so. I think that's just mycelium.
@@BoomerShroomer no that's yellowish brown, I do have that now though in the same tub I was talking about in this comment
If your grains are blue is that contam or brusing just blueish color no green no grey no other colors
How much did it produce when it was in the fruiting conditions?
About 2.5 oz of dried mushrooms per tub. 5 oz total of dried mushrooms. I had like 4 flushes per tub. There were soooo many mushrooms!
@@BoomerShroomer do u use a casing layer of vermiculite? And why? Whats ur preference casing layer or no casing?
@@BoomerShroomer do u think a casing layer acts as defense from contamination?
@@josephdavis8074 maybe but I am really not sure. I just did an experiment without a casing layer and they did very well. I would say if you don’t have to do one then you don’t need to.
@@BoomerShroomer I’ve read a decent amount about it lately and it seems to be an unnecessary step. Lots of people apply pseudoscience to their practices.
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Ways to prevent your contamination? high pH, drier conditions, longer pasteurize?
It was pretty wet in the tubs which caused mold to grow.
@@BoomerShroomer Im saying Ive been running into contamination with my bulk subs, been putting a little coffee in there, coco coir, vemiculite, pasteurizing. Tips to avoid contaming with bulk sub?
@@Holypikemanz are you pasteurizing the substrate before you use it?
@@BoomerShroomer yes, Ive been putting the bulk substrate in the oven at 170 for 2 hours (lowest temp), but Ive read some people doing it for 10 hours+. Tips?
@@Holypikemanz I usually add boiling water to my 5 gallon bucket then close it off with a lid and wait 24 hours. Then use it after 24 hours.
Could I use flex seal for a liner?
I don't know what flex seal is?
Ok but what woel happen if you harvest in a contaminated tub
I recommend getting the mushroom out of the tub and then throwing the substrate out. It could contaminate other tubs if you have them.
@@BoomerShroomer so the fruits might be ok to consume after cooking them (button mushrooms )
@@GhostyFox1 yeah they should be okay.
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Thanks for watching.
Well your sub was not pasteurized properly because you have some plant growing in it . It also looks way to wet.
The plant was from the spawn bag I purchased. I think it was a milo seed. Also, It was a little wet cause I sprayed it down too much at the end.
@@BoomerShroomer I would suggest pasturing it yourself . Just throw the sealed bag in a slow cooker overnight
I would say ur filters are exsessive , mybe use less material that catches unwanted particles ..just my thaughts
Boomer Shroomer ftw
The cycle of life. One fungus dies and becomes nutients for others to come. Kinda beautiful, right?
can i place the contaminated substrate in my flower bed?
does contaminated substrate have any use in a farm??
Thanks
Yes, you could. I throw mine in the back yard.
I like the color of your shirt makes you look more beautiful than you already are !! lol ......
Hey thanks for the video....so I have two tubs and neither one is fruiting....I think I put too much colonized grain and not enough substrate...is there anything I can do so they fruit...I'm desperately needing help...thanks...oh I have no contamination and they are about 20 days now with fruiting condition...it looks like it has sealed itself over on top...
Can you reach out to me on Instagram and send a pic?
Hi, I have a cobweb mold happening in my shoebox tubs , though it is producing. Should I let it carry on and get what fruit comes to maturity?
You can try to spray the sub lightly with 70% isopropyl and it might kill the cobweb. I would recommend picking everything and tossing the tub. Could potentially contaminate other tubs.
@@BoomerShroomer Thx!
Daphne?
So I have a question I haven’t been able to find an answer to. It’s commonly stated in tutorials to not spray the mycelium directly. I happened to have done so prior to reviewing that fact, and *it seems* as though only after a few days post doing so, that I noticed some green/blueish areas that seemed to correspond to where there was a decent amount of standing water on the mycelium. It doesn’t stink, and after a week minimal (only several) aborts appeared and the mycelium is sort of gathering and slightly thickening around the blue/green areas. The tub doesn’t stink, and the green/blue patches don’t have any spore formation that has occurred over this week, and doesn’t quite resemble the green dusting mold I have dealt with in quite a few GS jars.
Prior to this, the surface seemed healthy and white/healthy mostly across. The tub has never stunk at all..
Sorry for such a long story.. but.. could these areas simply be the “bruising” that can occur from direct spraying? I can’t seem to find any descriptions of what this bruising that is referred to in guidance to not directly mist the mycelium. My main complaint here is the mycelium entering fruiting seems to be dramatically stunted. Just looking for some tips on the bruising question and what I might try to get this thing to fruit.. :/ .. I have been misting the sides when dry daily, fanning twice per day, temp fluctuates between 70-78, have fine misted the mycelium and put a good flowing fan on it immediately after for 5-10 min every 2-3 days.. just sorta lost.
I was wondering if this question was ever answered. I have a similar problem
If you get pools of water after misting take the corner of a paper towel and dry up the heavy water spots. There are some vids out there
Sounds like bruising but just take a q-tip and gently swab the area. If there’s green dust on the swab it’s probably mold. If nothing’s rubbing off then it’s probably bruising. Can’t confirm from personal experience yet, but that’s what I’ve heard from several people.
Don’t touch the mould, mycotoxins can be deadly.
Highly unlikely
My mushrooms were thriving then I put the heater to close and killed them
I'm sorry this happened, try again! Happy growing!
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a life span is a life span
bleach/perox...All stated here in two words. But how to prevent this is th question nobody answers.
Sometimes after several flushes you can't prevent mold.
Interesting that you got two different types of mold
I know. I think the chocolate mold came from the spawn bag. But I am not sure.
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Heyy!!
Barehanded handling mold.. your quite the lady
lol all is good
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I question this lady's abilities, mainly on the fact of, look how she cut the hole and mounting for that fan on the right.....it does nothing, no air flow.....she cut out the center....where there's no blades or air flow.....and if that's how she builds, imagine how she grows....
Lol....it's clearly working
My what an expert! What is your channel? Oh... you don't have one? Why, your not old enough... at least not mentally?
Way to wet
Yeah at the end I was spraying them down too much. I thought they needed more water. lol
you are cute, good luck.
Thank you! 🍄😊❤️
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Girl why are you digging in that mold you are kicking up all sorts of spores and going right into your lungs. Please wear a mask and gloves when you doing this. And you're pretty lady who's super smart and I like watching your videos I don't want you to be sick.
Can't hear you
This one is hard to hear. Sorry. One of my first videos.
@@BoomerShroomer ohhhh ok ok I get it