We have been packing straw layered with mushroom spawn in plastic milk crates and produce boxes from our local Asian store. Great production and no sterilization also. We have used blue brown and Italian oysters (which are cold hearty and will sometimes reinoculate new straw. The pink and yellow oysters go all though the summer into fall. When they are done, we chuck a box a week of the spent straw to the chickens all through the winter and it becomes perfect compost and makes the chickens super healthy.
@@FastGardeningMichigan Most if not all mushroom have antibacterial properties. That's how they drive away competition so I guess it helps the chicken coop become cleaner.
What excites me the most is when I see, especially with Australians and Americans, that they don't complicate things at all. They always go straight and don't look back, to a lot of loading about deadlines, humidity, techniques, temperature, .. They do as they think is ok and they usually succeed. So. Thank you for the unique display, patience and, last but not least, the success you showed us. Greetings from Slovenia👍🤘
Not being afraid to fail helps. I like trying new garden experiments based off observations I see in nature. There are mushrooms growing without human intervention since before we existed!
Yeahhh I just moved to a NW facing apartment. No sun but now I have a fun new garden plan. I've been gardening for 40 yrs and never had the challange of no sun. This video was a godsend Thank you
I micro dosed mushrooms after fighting depression for over 7years, being incapable of work for the last 2years. In shot summary I became depression free within a couple of months and still I'm 6months later it saved me.
You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
Make a tent out of the plastic instead of removing and it'll do much better. Holds in the moisture better without smashing the growing mushrooms. Just needs a few small air holes at the bottom. I actually used a humidifier with mine. Great project for everyone.
@@MichaelCandelaria-m4p I used to grow king and blue oyster mushrooms. It's very easy if you have a good location and a little time. I actually grew indoors year round. Just got too busy...
Thanks. I believe you can use the old bale as starter for your next bale. I also think that watering the bale when it pins but weather turns too dry and hot might have saved your first “aborts”. Good luck
It would have. I am pretty lazy when it comes to growing stuff so I didn't water it. We usually get decent rainfall but last year had a brutal drought. Luckily it stayed pretty damp in the woods out of the sun and wind to produce the 2 big flushes
Cultivating mushrooms is as easy or hard as you want it to be. Even if you only have a passing interest and "buy a kit" you'll know that the mushrooms over by the rosebushes show up in the fall and are good to eat, the ones by the oak come out in spring are taste awesome, ect.... It saves from foraging the wrong kind of mushrooms in the wild.
Great video, bro…!🤜🏼🤛🏽 I’m from Michigan too, so I know what a beast the summers can be for several weeks on end, even in wooded areas…! Glad to see you’ve got the self-sufficiency thing well underway since long time cause consumer folks are feeling the hurt all over these days (Oct 2024). I agree, mushroom growing should be simpler than what most channels show. Mushrooms and other fungi grow all over, even when you try to snuff em out. That straw bale was so dense, it was almost like loading spawn plugs into an oak log…😂😂 I had two of those and just returned em to get some chopped straw from the same company…😅 I think that come Spring I’ll buy a couple of these compressed bales like yours here and just plug em with spawn, a couple different edible varieties and see what happens. I bet I’ll have a hella harvest…. Keep posting!🇺🇸🍄
I believe the compression of the bale was an important factor. It helped the spawn run and kept moisture in. It may have kept the slugs out from the inside as well. Slugs were taking out my mushrooms before I could get to them this season
The injection-port method is making things a lot easier especially for medicinal mushrooms but yeah its incredible the extent some tutorials provide as guidance. I'm not cooking meth!
hey.. thanks for the vid and giving this a go despite it being out of season for this type of mushroom. appreciate anyone who uses natures methods. your right, sterilization and other energetically and resource depleting methods are too much work for something that already grows well in nature.
Psychedelic therapy is just one of those great leaps in the mental health space . It's wonderful and the fact that they serve recreational use and health as well. I can't deny tripping is fun every once in a while.
I just love things that you can grow under the sum. All those cups, sterelization, encubation...etc. Congrats men, and thank for the Idea. I will give it a try.
You should use the pipe to deliver the spawn in. Jam it in as far as you want and pour small chuncks inside the pipe. When you pull out the spawn is where you want it.
I tried that. I thought it was going to be good but the spawn is kind of moist and the conduit opening is small. I found I was able to get more using handfuls
With straw bales, it's really important to find straw that hasn't been sprayed with Round-up, which is commonly sprayed on commercial wheat and grain crops to make them ripen faster. Finding organic isn't easy, but is absolutely worthwhile, since the whole point is to grow mushrooms that are healthy to eat.
My garden gets straw from a local farmer that doesn't use any chemicals. The problem with straw for mushrooms is this time of year the local farmers don't have a crop
I like this idea, one small thing I would do different is I would divide that large straw bale into three sections, tie them down and soak each in a large tote, instead of running a hose to wet the straw, that’s just me to save some water. Thanks for sharing!
Your straw can be a lot looser. And a cheap and easy way to pasterize is a cold water hydrated lime bath. The way your growing is super simple, i get it. But you could boost your results by alot by giving it a good soak and a little bit more aeration. Good job tho! Whatever you can do to get other people to grow is great man!
I find when I do stuff like this I lose interest so initial set up then leaving it on its own worked well for me. 15 gallons of mushrooms was too much to eat 😂. I'm making this a yearly endeavor. I have Italian oysters out waiting for a fall cold snap to flush
Oh ya for sure boss. I know people have their own methods and what works for them. But i definitely understand where your coming from when you grow too much and you dont know what to do with it lolol. Ive grown for years and i started getting to the point where i wanted to maximize yields but my goal is production for sale. Im trying to get some pink oysters going rn and i made 40 jars of spawn recently. Im getting ready to put them on straw and use whats left over to do a grain to grain transfer and multiply it all over agai. But ya cheers to you man!! I wish i had the time to spread the knowledge in videos.
These long time period videos are tougher to put together but there are a lot of videos that don't show results. I wouldn't want to release something that didn't work. The challenges help everyone out. I'm sure people can watch this and come up with their own, better ways to do it to overcome.
Thank you for this video. I'll be growing some store bought portobellos in a similar fashion! Kinda fun to see you do it the way I'd like to approach mushroom growing, in a more quick and dirty method!
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I used to do hunting and when the rut started the deer would paw at the Pine needles as there were mushrooms growing in the pine needles and the deer would eat them.
If one were to attempt growing psilocybin mushrooms, is it necessary to follow the strict sanitation rules that are recommended one take? And could it be possible to grow them outside?
I seen so many videos and all need sterilisation......I found yours and another person that doesnt need to. Makes growing Mushrooms more fun!!!!!!!! Great video!
I had drought issues last year so growing in bales is not on my to do list. I plant everything in the ground with heavy mulch now and barely need to water. If these dont flush again they will become mulch for my annual vegetables!
A spud wrench would work great for poking those holes in the bale since it's pointy. Also you make a PVC hoop tunnel with a plastic cover and a hose end patio mister to maintain the moisture. Just a suggestion...
Sounds like a great idea with the spud. Hoop tunnel and mister is a little too much work for me. I am building a mushroom box in my garden and growing other varieties more naturally where woodchips will shield them as they make their way througu the soil
Just excellent! And I have 6 acres of trees, ferns, and too much shade to grow much except periwinkle and bearberry. I'm trying your method, good luck with all your future straw bales! ❤ Abigail, in beautiful New Hampshire
I strawbale garden. I grow everything in strawbales. I first condition the bales by wetting everyday for 2 to 3 weeks, fertilizing every other day with high nitrogen fertilizer. When the bale starts to cool down it will sprout mushrooms, that's how you know its ok to plant veggies. My point is, the bales always sprout mushrooms without innoculating with mycelium. Js
My uncle owns a feed and straw business. I get plastic 55g drums and load them with layers of chopped straw/hardwood pellet mix and mushroom spawn. I set those up in the woods and get a good harvest from that
@@FastGardeningMichigan yes. Half inch all the way around. And large PVC down the middle to keep the core empty. It cuts down on the amount of growth media I need.
bro and here i am choppin up straw with my weedwacker washin it in soap and heatin it for an hour when i could just put the whole damn bale out back and let it rip
Very very nice i'm glad you popped on my recommendation, I like this a lot more than traditional techniques. I really want to grow mushrooms, but what the hell, it requires a ton of material made of plastic that are one time use, then they end up in land fills. Or other people literally cut huge trees for the log, then only produce a few mushroom out of it. So destructive and so much waste of plastic just to produce a few dozen mushrooms. I'm all for growing mushroom but not at this price, I was giving up on this project when you finally popped in feed. This is a lot better man I like it.
All the sterilization stuff turned me off to them but I thought they grow naturally without human intervention. This is a set it and forget it approach. Only issue this year is slugs eating my mushrooms!
Wow this is good to know. Always wanted to try my hand but with all that sterilization going on , well it just seemed like too much work for something that grows naturally in the wild where no one sterilizes anything. Will definitely try. Thanks so much.
I will bet money, you can grow pretty much every type of mushroom with this method, I've heard of people even planting tomato plants directly into bales of straw.
Well done- might also be good idea to inform audience the food for the mushrooms comes from the mycelium breaking down the straw ( I know you said chow in the straw)
I'm like you I like to keep it simple and think about it logically.. I just started my first liquid culture with p. Ovoid spores. I will be going right to a pasturized straw and another tub with wood chips and another experimental potting soil straw mix the rest of the syringe I threw into my garden bed they over came all odds in the wild to survive they got to make it some how if all goes well
Good job bro, thank you for sharing. I was going to do this with Agaricus Blazei but couldn't find any strait forward vids like this. Thanks for posting!
We brought a straw bail into our back yard and left part sitting in the weeds and it popped Chanterelle's the next year 2 years later our back yard was covered in them.
Mushrooms grow in the wild without our help. I figured why not toss them in the woods where they belong and let them do what they do naturally. Wine caps are even easier. They love dirty conditions where mold and other fungi are present. Actually helps them grow better!
I have yet to buy a straw bale that didn’t already have some kind of mushroom spores in it. When it get wet, they grow, and so far, they usually out pace the oyster mushrooms. It may just be a southern thing. I live in Georgia.
I had some stuff trying to grow including the straw seeds. I think putting the spawn in deep lets it get colonized large enough to over power some other infiltrators.
question, when the mushrooms have eaten most of the bale, instead of composting it could you just mix it into a new bale without the bag of spawn? Like would the mycelium from the old bale grow into the new substrate? I just ask this because I feel like it would save so much money on starters. I also started a sourdough culture and to keep it alive all you have to do is discard most of the culture then add more flour and water so the old culture can feed on the new "substrate"
Yes. My bale may have been harmed by winter though. Anytime mycellium starts forming the network pieces can be taken to inoculate other substrates. That's my plan with wine caps
Yeah you can. If you get a few steps up in home mycology (pressure cooker and canning jars) you can take a sample of a mushroom from the supermarket and grow that after culturing it. It's a bit like using a potato eye to start a potato plant.... You can also order cultures from shops online. You can inoculate a few bags to grow mushrooms and then inject a few CCs into a culture solution (fancy sugar water) and grow back some more of the mushroom culture you just used. It's a freaking interesting hobby. You can go from passing "this is yummy" interest to breeding genetic traits complex depending on how far you want to take it.
Thank you sir for this informative video which addressed an important growing issue. Sometimes I wonder if all the aseptic techniques really benefit the mushrooms over time. As you stated these fungi are capable of growing in the wild just fine and are probably more hardy strains over time as well.
@@FastGardeningMichigan Yep, exactly. Anyway, I believe so. I have a sawmill. N E Ohio. The log pile, while sitting out back & aging, always gets free oysters growing on it,,, especially on the poplar & bass wood logs. I pick off the aged caps and place/ layer them in-between the cut-off slabs, with bark still attached, with the dust. & in one year they start producing. Grays & whites seem to work best, but I'm going to order some pinks & give them a try. Kinda like building a totem. THANKS. ;>)
I'm growing mine very similar to you. I soak the straw, then use small laundry baskets and layer the spawn with the straw. Works great. I felt the same as you did, why all this sterilisation for fungus that grows naturally. I'm growing lion's mane this way too. I do add coffee grounds to them when I have some. Great video, thanks for posting 🍄🍄🍄
@@FastGardeningMichigan lions mane grows well in straw. I had a couple nice fruits in my bucket tek before trich took over in the bucket. How do you deal with contamination when growing in open air.
@@Lvl2farmer i do not worry about contamination. I figure they grow outside without sterilization so if I give them a good start they should outcompete rival fungi and mold
if you want to create a more long term bed you can fill in the area around the straw bail with wood chips that they can spread into once the bail is exhausted
or even when you are done growing mushrooms on the bail break it up and put the inoculated straw directly into your garden with a layer of wood chips that it can spread through, oyster mushrooms can work symbiotically with the plants in your garden to give you a better yield of whatever you're growing
Amen! I don't have time for all that sterilization stuff. My ADHD brain isn't interested in that! Thanks so much. I've been looking for videos like yours. 👍🏾
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I think if you tented the plastic with (4) 2 foot 1x3’s you would have been able to get good air flow and would have been able to mist the plastic easier
That would work. When the drought let up I left it uncovered. Sometimes the surface would dry but the heart of the bale was packed with colonized, moist straw.
Did it come back the next year ? Something to consider to prevent drying, maybe dig a little pit, like a cold sink and humidity sink and have the hay bail in it.
It would need proper drainage but would be a good experiment. As long as the environmental conditions like shade, airflow are met I believe the growing container may not matter
@@FastGardeningMichigan I was thinking a pool as a lid too. With distributed grains they may have more space to fruit. I also live in Michigan. Looking forward to spring
@@bigtime4794 with oysters they need a period of a little bit of light, airflow, and a temp change to force a flush. The lid may work good and just pop it off when it's ready to pop. Worth a shot!
I tried lion's mane outside like this and it didn't do as well. But no straw mushrooms did well. Slugs destroyed everything as it pinned. It was a rough slug year. I do want to set up some lions mane logs this spring. I did shiitake last year.
I think that’s the biggest tip is to know what mushrooms grow when , many get mushroom and they don’t grow because temperature and season don’t suit the mushrooms they have gotten , there are mushrooms that love the cold and mushrooms that love warm conditions and some In the middle range so research mushroom varieties and when they grow and you should be good to go 👍
For the weather pink oysters would have been my best choice. It's hard to predict the michigan temperature swings. Luckily we had early cool, wet weather before fall so these could flush and even better weather after for a larger flush.
I am so doing this. Thank you for the tip on the variety preferences. I'll try pink oysters first and then start others. I'm in S central FL. So this will be interesting.
Hi, Looooooooooove this idea! I’m just beginning my mushroom growing journey, and have been watching and reading to educate myself! I have a couple of questions for you, if you wouldn’t mind helping me out: 1. Literally everyone is like only do it the sanitary way so there’s no mold, sanitary crazy! Did you have any issues with mold? Would that be easily identifiable if mold were to develop on these mushrooms/during the growth period before they starting pinning? 2. Would I use the same kind of straw you used, just not bound in its original form like you had, and then bind it myself with string? I’m not very familiar with hay bails:) 3. I know it may seem messy, but if my weather does not permit/help, and I want to keep my room at a stable temperature, could I do this in my garage? Would I need to use the plastic tarp as a cover? 4. Would it help in anyway to use substrate I’ve bought and mix that with the mushrooms in the hole, or on top of the bail? Thank you for all of your knowledge and help! This video makes me actually think I can grow them and not have to deal with all of the technical preparations and storage that seem to be what most growers are suggesting! 10:44 So excited to hear from you😊
I've found the tighter bakes to work better. Helps mycelium spread easier. I would not be concerned with mold, especially outside. There's all kinds of microorganisms that will be in there! I'm not sure how this would work indoors. I've stuffed dirty straw in a water jug with spawn and had mushrooms grow. They grow naturally without humans sterilizing their homes. I like to give them food and let them do their thing
When you add it to your compost, you will be surprised at all the places you ill have mushrooms when you use the compost. I have a friend who grows them in between his gardening rows. Its pretty awesome. He gets them almost year round here in oregon
That's what I was hoping for. I even considered making slurries of different types of mushrooms and pouring them throughout my various mulches to see if that would cause some to pop up in odd places
@@FastGardeningMichigan you definitely could. My friend got spawn and aadded it to layers made of straw, cardboard and pine/fir shavings. He has different types in different rows so is able to grow all year long. Then, he added some oak, maple, alder and fruit tree chips and has an amazing growth of all types there. You can often get log pieces and chips from any tree services for free too. I tend to grow other kinds but have taken contaminated spawn and added to my raised beds, planters and in ground and i have these guys popping up all over the place. Its actually kind of fun. I grew oysters by buying some at the grocers, slurried it up and soaked a bunch of shredded cardboard and put it in different areas outside. It definitely works. I mulch over it. You could even mulch over your bale out there and will have an amazing mushroom field in your forest some day.
This was a packaged bale from farm and fleet since no straw bales were available anywhere. Straw for my garden is from a local farmer who grows with no herbicides or pesticides.
I am in W PA. I ordered a 100 gr block of blue oyster mycelium. It is 4/3/23 and I will be inoculating a soaked straw bail tomorrow. We will see if this works? Hopefully the morels will be coming out any day now as well?
@@FastGardeningMichigan PA is weird on spring. There are a lot of memes out there where it shows ppl with winter coats and shorts on lol. Morels start when the high to low temp average is 50 F. We are there now. We still have cold nights. Going to hit 77 here on Wed. I will soak and cover the bale with a tarp. The natural sugars in the bale will heat it up I am sure? The mycelium was not expensive. Worth a shot.
I’m doing it but only for my needs, so don’t need that much spawn or substrate. I have 3 100g bags of portobello, oyster & shiitake spawn. I am doing a small bag of each. Do what suits your circumstances & need.
We have been packing straw layered with mushroom spawn in plastic milk crates and produce boxes from our local Asian store. Great production and no sterilization also. We have used blue brown and Italian oysters (which are cold hearty and will sometimes reinoculate new straw.
The pink and yellow oysters go all though the summer into fall. When they are done, we chuck a box a week of the spent straw to the chickens all through the winter and it becomes perfect compost and makes the chickens super healthy.
That is awesome! I'm gonna start tossing mine in with the chickens
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@@FastGardeningMichigan Most if not all mushroom have antibacterial properties. That's how they drive away competition so I guess it helps the chicken coop become cleaner.
What excites me the most is when I see, especially with Australians and Americans, that they don't complicate things at all. They always go straight and don't look back, to a lot of loading about deadlines, humidity, techniques, temperature, .. They do as they think is ok and they usually succeed. So. Thank you for the unique display, patience and, last but not least, the success you showed us. Greetings from Slovenia👍🤘
Not being afraid to fail helps. I like trying new garden experiments based off observations I see in nature. There are mushrooms growing without human intervention since before we existed!
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The background noises in this video are very relaxing. Sounds like you live in paradise.
I'm far enough in the woods to be away from roadway noise and city lights. It is very relaxing.
Yeahhh I just moved to a NW facing apartment. No sun but now I have a fun new garden plan. I've been gardening for 40 yrs and never had the challange of no sun. This video was a godsend Thank you
My garden is north of thick trees so I don't get many months of sun. I use it as an advantage to grow cool crops all season. And mushrooms!
A good tip is that if you keep some of the spawn you can use it to inoculate more substrate :)
I added some of the bale into my soil and had oysters pop up. They were quickly destroyed by chipmunks and slugs 😂
Mushrooms produces spores. Spores are transfered into agar plates where becomes mycellium. From plates they go to seeds. From seeds to bale.
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You can't overdose on mushrooms alone . You can definitely eat the wrong mushroom and get poisoning from that, but no one has ever died from psilocybin OD
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Make a tent out of the plastic instead of removing and it'll do much better. Holds in the moisture better without smashing the growing mushrooms. Just needs a few small air holes at the bottom.
I actually used a humidifier with mine. Great project for everyone.
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@@MichaelCandelaria-m4p I used to grow king and blue oyster mushrooms. It's very easy if you have a good location and a little time. I actually grew indoors year round. Just got too busy...
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Thanks. I believe you can use the old bale as starter for your next bale. I also think that watering the bale when it pins but weather turns too dry and hot might have saved your first “aborts”. Good luck
It would have. I am pretty lazy when it comes to growing stuff so I didn't water it. We usually get decent rainfall but last year had a brutal drought. Luckily it stayed pretty damp in the woods out of the sun and wind to produce the 2 big flushes
You have just saved me HOURS of possibly pointless optimization, thanks man.
Great!
Cultivating mushrooms is as easy or hard as you want it to be.
Even if you only have a passing interest and "buy a kit" you'll know that the mushrooms over by the rosebushes show up in the fall and are good to eat, the ones by the oak come out in spring are taste awesome, ect.... It saves from foraging the wrong kind of mushrooms in the wild.
I had some wild edibles pop up but they are ones with deadly look alikes. I won't mess with them!
Great video, bro…!🤜🏼🤛🏽 I’m from Michigan too, so I know what a beast the summers can be for several weeks on end, even in wooded areas…!
Glad to see you’ve got the self-sufficiency thing well underway since long time cause consumer folks are feeling the hurt all over these days (Oct 2024).
I agree, mushroom growing should be simpler than what most channels show. Mushrooms and other fungi grow all over, even when you try to snuff em out.
That straw bale was so dense, it was almost like loading spawn plugs into an oak log…😂😂 I had two of those and just returned em to get some chopped straw from the same company…😅 I think that come Spring I’ll buy a couple of these compressed bales like yours here and just plug em with spawn, a couple different edible varieties and see what happens. I bet I’ll have a hella harvest…. Keep posting!🇺🇸🍄
I believe the compression of the bale was an important factor. It helped the spawn run and kept moisture in. It may have kept the slugs out from the inside as well. Slugs were taking out my mushrooms before I could get to them this season
The injection-port method is making things a lot easier especially for medicinal mushrooms but yeah its incredible the extent some tutorials provide as guidance. I'm not cooking meth!
People always find a way to overcomplicate!
hey.. thanks for the vid and giving this a go despite it being out of season for this type of mushroom. appreciate anyone who uses natures methods. your right, sterilization and other energetically and resource depleting methods are too much work for something that already grows well in nature.
I have never seen nature sterilize anything!
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Psychedelic therapy is just one of those great leaps in the mental health space . It's wonderful and the fact that they serve recreational use and health as well. I can't deny tripping is fun every once in a while.
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I always thought, why the sterilization as the forest is not sterile, Great Video
Exactly!
I thought the same. Thanks mate. You are role model. Yes. It doesn't need to be complicated. 😊
Such a simple yet effective method. Mushrooms have been growing without our help for a long time! Nature does not pasteurize or sterilize
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I just love things that you can grow under the sum. All those cups, sterelization, encubation...etc. Congrats men, and thank for the Idea. I will give it a try.
They grow outside without human interference. Sometimes we overcomplicate growing. Nature does best
You should use the pipe to deliver the spawn in. Jam it in as far as you want and pour small chuncks inside the pipe. When you pull out the spawn is where you want it.
I tried that. I thought it was going to be good but the spawn is kind of moist and the conduit opening is small. I found I was able to get more using handfuls
With straw bales, it's really important to find straw that hasn't been sprayed with Round-up, which is commonly sprayed on commercial wheat and grain crops to make them ripen faster.
Finding organic isn't easy, but is absolutely worthwhile, since the whole point is to grow mushrooms that are healthy to eat.
My garden gets straw from a local farmer that doesn't use any chemicals. The problem with straw for mushrooms is this time of year the local farmers don't have a crop
@@FastGardeningMichigan Always good to find local farmers who are doing it right.
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I'm in Tennessee, so not able to source straw bales out of Michigan.
Easiest video on mushroom growth I’ve found. Thank you!
Thanks!
I like this idea, one small thing I would do different is I would divide that large straw bale into three sections, tie them down and soak each in a large tote, instead of running a hose to wet the straw, that’s just me to save some water. Thanks for sharing!
I didnt want it to fall apart and it got really heavy with the water. I do see some dip the bales
Your straw can be a lot looser. And a cheap and easy way to pasterize is a cold water hydrated lime bath. The way your growing is super simple, i get it. But you could boost your results by alot by giving it a good soak and a little bit more aeration. Good job tho! Whatever you can do to get other people to grow is great man!
I find when I do stuff like this I lose interest so initial set up then leaving it on its own worked well for me. 15 gallons of mushrooms was too much to eat 😂. I'm making this a yearly endeavor. I have Italian oysters out waiting for a fall cold snap to flush
Oh ya for sure boss. I know people have their own methods and what works for them. But i definitely understand where your coming from when you grow too much and you dont know what to do with it lolol. Ive grown for years and i started getting to the point where i wanted to maximize yields but my goal is production for sale. Im trying to get some pink oysters going rn and i made 40 jars of spawn recently. Im getting ready to put them on straw and use whats left over to do a grain to grain transfer and multiply it all over agai. But ya cheers to you man!! I wish i had the time to spread the knowledge in videos.
You are a real American free spirit to try out. Thank you for your challenge ❤
Thanks for watching!
Awesome video. Thanks for all the detail about the timing of when you started this and how that affected the grow.
I have a similar situation this year. Went from freezing temps to super hot. Hopefully the results are just as good.
Great idea, and great video! I have a shaded area of woods on my property. I’m going to jump into the mushroom growing side of gardening soon!
Good luck! Such a great way to use shaded space and be productive. Just beware of slugs. They are big fans of mushrooms
Thank you for showing the challenges along the way - that teaches us so much more than if it just worked out automatically. Well done!
These long time period videos are tougher to put together but there are a lot of videos that don't show results. I wouldn't want to release something that didn't work. The challenges help everyone out. I'm sure people can watch this and come up with their own, better ways to do it to overcome.
@@FastGardeningMichigan Agreed! This is really a valuable effort. Excellent work.
I agree with you, so much sterilization for something that grows naturally outside.... I'll try it
It's amazing they can grow without human intervention 😂
Thank you for this video. I'll be growing some store bought portobellos in a similar fashion! Kinda fun to see you do it the way I'd like to approach mushroom growing, in a more quick and dirty method!
There are probably more unique ways to grow mushrooms we could find if people experimented more.
This is a great putdoor method, but nothing beats the old in home, brown rice matrix method.
Never heard of it but I'll be checking it out now. Thanks!
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I used to do hunting and when the rut started the deer would paw at the Pine needles as there were mushrooms growing in the pine needles and the deer would eat them.
Very interesting
If one were to attempt growing psilocybin mushrooms, is it necessary to follow the strict sanitation rules that are recommended one take? And could it be possible to grow them outside?
I'm wondering the same. Had great luck with Uncle Ben first time around. Would love to try outdoors instead of monotubs. ❤
I seen so many videos and all need sterilisation......I found yours and another person that doesnt need to. Makes growing Mushrooms more fun!!!!!!!! Great video!
They were delicious and I got TWO flushes of mushrooms. Thanks for watching!
For some people all the technical part is the fun stuff 😂
I’m new to growing mushrooms. What are the risks if you don’t sterilize the straw?
This is awesome! I wonder if spraying water underneath rather than just on top would not just help with air flow, but moisture?
Yes! Since it evaporates up.
Thats great to know you can use the tap water and you dont have to sterilise nothing thank you for posting this
Oysters grow outside and nature doesn't sterilize!
After the mushrooms are done growing grow tomatoes in the used straw bale.❤
I had drought issues last year so growing in bales is not on my to do list. I plant everything in the ground with heavy mulch now and barely need to water. If these dont flush again they will become mulch for my annual vegetables!
A spud wrench would work great for poking those holes in the bale since it's pointy. Also you make a PVC hoop tunnel with a plastic cover and a hose end patio mister to maintain the moisture. Just a suggestion...
Sounds like a great idea with the spud. Hoop tunnel and mister is a little too much work for me. I am building a mushroom box in my garden and growing other varieties more naturally where woodchips will shield them as they make their way througu the soil
Just excellent! And I have 6 acres of trees, ferns, and too much shade to grow much except periwinkle and bearberry. I'm trying your method, good luck with all your future straw bales! ❤ Abigail, in beautiful New Hampshire
Good luck and thanks for watching!
I bet that an oil funnel from the auto supply place would work really well for getting spawn down deep in a straw bale.
That could work!
I strawbale garden. I grow everything in strawbales. I first condition the bales by wetting everyday for 2 to 3 weeks, fertilizing every other day with high nitrogen fertilizer. When the bale starts to cool down it will sprout mushrooms, that's how you know its ok to plant veggies. My point is, the bales always sprout mushrooms without innoculating with mycelium. Js
These are edible. Intentionally cultivated
Good
My uncle owns a feed and straw business. I get plastic 55g drums and load them with layers of chopped straw/hardwood pellet mix and mushroom spawn. I set those up in the woods and get a good harvest from that
That's a great idea. Do you drill holes in the drums?
@@FastGardeningMichigan yes. Half inch all the way around. And large PVC down the middle to keep the core empty. It cuts down on the amount of growth media I need.
This is good. It is intimidating to do strelization without proper equipment.
And that equipment is very expensive!
bro and here i am choppin up straw with my weedwacker washin it in soap and heatin it for an hour when i could just put the whole damn bale out back and let it rip
The beauty of letting it grow outdoors like it does in the wild!
Seeing as we don’t get heat here in Ireland, I might just give your method a try. Thanks for this excellent video. Greetings from the Emerald Isle 🥰
That would be cool! If you try it and it works let me know!
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Very very nice i'm glad you popped on my recommendation, I like this a lot more than traditional techniques. I really want to grow mushrooms, but what the hell, it requires a ton of material made of plastic that are one time use, then they end up in land fills. Or other people literally cut huge trees for the log, then only produce a few mushroom out of it. So destructive and so much waste of plastic just to produce a few dozen mushrooms. I'm all for growing mushroom but not at this price, I was giving up on this project when you finally popped in feed. This is a lot better man I like it.
All the sterilization stuff turned me off to them but I thought they grow naturally without human intervention. This is a set it and forget it approach. Only issue this year is slugs eating my mushrooms!
Wow this is good to know. Always wanted to try my hand but with all that sterilization going on , well it just seemed like too much work for something that grows naturally in the wild where no one sterilizes anything. Will definitely try. Thanks so much.
Same here. I was put off by the standard process. There's oysters hanging off trees everywhere here and nobody sterilized them
I've always wanted to geo mushrooms but it seemed fiddly. I'm definitely going to try this many thanks😊
It's fun and they taste great! Such a fascinating life form
Could you post a video on growing psilocybin on a straw bale.
I will bet money, you can grow pretty much every type of mushroom with this method, I've heard of people even planting tomato plants directly into bales of straw.
Possibly. Some prefer wood. But straw can grow a lot of them. And who knows maybe straw would work but noone is trying it
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Works great! Got 2 big flushes. Bail still sitting out for a possible spring flush
Well done- might also be good idea to inform audience the food for the mushrooms comes from the mycelium breaking down the straw ( I know you said chow in the straw)
I was referring to "chowing down" as a verbal action, not chow as in food
I'm like you I like to keep it simple and think about it logically.. I just started my first liquid culture with p. Ovoid spores. I will be going right to a pasturized straw and another tub with wood chips and another experimental potting soil straw mix the rest of the syringe I threw into my garden bed they over came all odds in the wild to survive they got to make it some how if all goes well
I goy oysters growing in my garden now from some straw from the bale I buried in there. They are very prolific mushrooms!
Those look great. Thanks for sharing your videos with us.
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Good job bro, thank you for sharing. I was going to do this with Agaricus Blazei but couldn't find any strait forward vids like this. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching!
This is amazing!!! What month did you inoculate the bale in?
Early May, but ideally it shouldve been done early April. Luckily some cold temps and rain showed up in August to get a nice early flush
Excellent video & I agree with you growing them naturally outside
Always the easiest way!
We brought a straw bail into our back yard and left part sitting in the weeds and it popped Chanterelle's the next year 2 years later our back yard was covered in them.
What luck! An already inoculated bale
Wow, really great! Good job! Ive wanted to grow mushrooms but the whole clean room thing put me off. Thank you for sharing this obviously fine method!
Mushrooms grow in the wild without our help. I figured why not toss them in the woods where they belong and let them do what they do naturally. Wine caps are even easier. They love dirty conditions where mold and other fungi are present. Actually helps them grow better!
Mmmmm, blue oysters 😋
Delicious!
I have yet to buy a straw bale that didn’t already have some kind of mushroom spores in it. When it get wet, they grow, and so far, they usually out pace the oyster mushrooms.
It may just be a southern thing. I live in Georgia.
I had some stuff trying to grow including the straw seeds. I think putting the spawn in deep lets it get colonized large enough to over power some other infiltrators.
Here in northeast Ohio straw works well. Georgia is a bit hot for most fungi in the summer heat. Try fall or spring
question, when the mushrooms have eaten most of the bale, instead of composting it could you just mix it into a new bale without the bag of spawn?
Like would the mycelium from the old bale grow into the new substrate?
I just ask this because I feel like it would save so much money on starters.
I also started a sourdough culture and to keep it alive all you have to do is discard most of the culture then add more flour and water so the old culture can feed on the new "substrate"
Yes. My bale may have been harmed by winter though. Anytime mycellium starts forming the network pieces can be taken to inoculate other substrates. That's my plan with wine caps
Pls where can I buy the spawn(mushroom seed)?
@@francisagbara8564 northspore sells good spawn.
Yeah you can. If you get a few steps up in home mycology (pressure cooker and canning jars) you can take a sample of a mushroom from the supermarket and grow that after culturing it. It's a bit like using a potato eye to start a potato plant.... You can also order cultures from shops online. You can inoculate a few bags to grow mushrooms and then inject a few CCs into a culture solution (fancy sugar water) and grow back some more of the mushroom culture you just used.
It's a freaking interesting hobby. You can go from passing "this is yummy" interest to breeding genetic traits complex depending on how far you want to take it.
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Thank you sir for this informative video which addressed an important growing issue. Sometimes I wonder if all the aseptic techniques really benefit the mushrooms over time. As you stated these fungi are capable of growing in the wild just fine and are probably more hardy strains over time as well.
Thats interesting. I wonder if wild cultures would grow hardier than the lab varieties.
@@FastGardeningMichigan Yep, exactly. Anyway, I believe so.
I have a sawmill. N E Ohio. The log pile, while sitting out back & aging, always gets free oysters growing on it,,, especially on the poplar & bass wood logs.
I pick off the aged caps and place/ layer them in-between the cut-off slabs, with bark still attached, with the dust. & in one year they start producing. Grays & whites seem to work best, but I'm going to order some pinks & give them a try.
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Great stuff, man, much appreciated. Thanks for the knowledge!
Thanks for watching!
You’ve inspired me! Definitely going to try it 👍🏼
Good luck and enjoy your mushrooms!
I'm growing mine very similar to you. I soak the straw, then use small laundry baskets and layer the spawn with the straw. Works great. I felt the same as you did, why all this sterilisation for fungus that grows naturally. I'm growing lion's mane this way too. I do add coffee grounds to them when I have some.
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How does the lions mane do in the straw?
Jenny you need to make your own UA-cam videos about this! Bravo!
@@FastGardeningMichigan lions mane grows well in straw. I had a couple nice fruits in my bucket tek before trich took over in the bucket. How do you deal with contamination when growing in open air.
@@Lvl2farmer i do not worry about contamination. I figure they grow outside without sterilization so if I give them a good start they should outcompete rival fungi and mold
@@FastGardeningMichigan what about fungus knats?
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Thanks! Just watch out for slugs. They were ruthless this year.
if you want to create a more long term bed you can fill in the area around the straw bail with wood chips that they can spread into once the bail is exhausted
or even when you are done growing mushrooms on the bail break it up and put the inoculated straw directly into your garden with a layer of wood chips that it can spread through, oyster mushrooms can work symbiotically with the plants in your garden to give you a better yield of whatever you're growing
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@@michamohe That awesome to hear that you can inter crop oyster mushrooms with your other plants like that.
This is why experimentation is so important with vegetable gardening... you won't know what works and what doesn't where you are until you try it!
Amen! I don't have time for all that sterilization stuff. My ADHD brain isn't interested in that! Thanks so much. I've been looking for videos like yours. 👍🏾
U should try just letting spore out on the hay stack and see it you can keep it going.
I left a lot to do that. Couldn't eat them all
What about putting another bale on top of this one, once it is done flushing?
That's not a bad idea! Might be late now. Another bale on top while they're colonizing would give them more food which could mean more mushrooms
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I think if you tented the plastic with (4) 2 foot 1x3’s you would have been able to get good air flow and would have been able to mist the plastic easier
That would work. When the drought let up I left it uncovered. Sometimes the surface would dry but the heart of the bale was packed with colonized, moist straw.
Thanks for your efforts!
Thanks for watching!
Did it come back the next year ? Something to consider to prevent drying, maybe dig a little pit, like a cold sink and humidity sink and have the hay bail in it.
Yes. But it's year 3 and it's done. I'm going to bury it under fresh straw and see if there's life left
I'm curious what a blue kidde pool full of sawdust and mixed with grain spawn would produce
It would need proper drainage but would be a good experiment. As long as the environmental conditions like shade, airflow are met I believe the growing container may not matter
@@FastGardeningMichigan I was thinking a pool as a lid too. With distributed grains they may have more space to fruit. I also live in Michigan. Looking forward to spring
@@bigtime4794 with oysters they need a period of a little bit of light, airflow, and a temp change to force a flush. The lid may work good and just pop it off when it's ready to pop. Worth a shot!
Do you think lions mane would work straw?
@@LaurelCanyonMojo yes
I wounder how this work with a laundry basket. With your hay bail stuffed in it. The kind with full of holes.
Many do that method!
Do you know if a person can grow more than one kind of mushroom in the same bale at the same time ?
It could happen but yields will be reduced. The different mycelium would fight eachother for resources, weakening both.
A dibble would do better to make your holes much better. It also works in the spawn better using the handle to pack it in.
I had to look up what a dibble is 😂
Good vid. Will be trying this method
Works great but watch out for slugs! Weren't a problem last year but this year they destroyed all my mushrooms
Can you grow pscylocibin mushrooms in it
I don't know. I think those grow in different substrate
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Good luck! Keep it moist and shaded and don't fight 90 degree weather like I did. I cant image how good mine would've done with the right temps
Im thinking odf doing this in my garage.. i dont own a car and theres plenty of shade in there for this. I plan to do lions mane and blue oysters
I tried lion's mane outside like this and it didn't do as well. But no straw mushrooms did well. Slugs destroyed everything as it pinned. It was a rough slug year. I do want to set up some lions mane logs this spring. I did shiitake last year.
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Thanks for watching!
I think that’s the biggest tip is to know what mushrooms grow when , many get mushroom and they don’t grow because temperature and season don’t suit the mushrooms they have gotten , there are mushrooms that love the cold and mushrooms that love warm conditions and some In the middle range so research mushroom varieties and when they grow and you should be good to go 👍
For the weather pink oysters would have been my best choice. It's hard to predict the michigan temperature swings. Luckily we had early cool, wet weather before fall so these could flush and even better weather after for a larger flush.
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I am so doing this. Thank you for the tip on the variety preferences. I'll try pink oysters first and then start others. I'm in S central FL. So this will be interesting.
Good luck! Let me know how it goes
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Hi, Looooooooooove this idea! I’m just beginning my mushroom growing journey, and have been watching and reading to educate myself! I have a couple of questions for you, if you wouldn’t mind helping me out:
1. Literally everyone is like only do it the sanitary way so there’s no mold, sanitary crazy! Did you have any issues with mold? Would that be easily identifiable if mold were to develop on these mushrooms/during the growth period before they starting pinning?
2. Would I use the same kind of straw you used, just not bound in its original form like you had, and then bind it myself with string? I’m not very familiar with hay bails:)
3. I know it may seem messy, but if my weather does not permit/help, and I want to keep my room at a stable temperature, could I do this in my garage? Would I need to use the plastic tarp as a cover?
4. Would it help in anyway to use substrate I’ve bought and mix that with the mushrooms in the hole, or on top of the bail?
Thank you for all of your knowledge and help! This video makes me actually think I can grow them and not have to deal with all of the technical preparations and storage that seem to be what most growers are suggesting! 10:44 So excited to hear from you😊
I've found the tighter bakes to work better. Helps mycelium spread easier. I would not be concerned with mold, especially outside. There's all kinds of microorganisms that will be in there! I'm not sure how this would work indoors. I've stuffed dirty straw in a water jug with spawn and had mushrooms grow. They grow naturally without humans sterilizing their homes. I like to give them food and let them do their thing
Yes sir thanks this is the way ezzzie I'll do it got to find straw
Just set up 2 more bales myself
When you add it to your compost, you will be surprised at all the places you ill have mushrooms when you use the compost. I have a friend who grows them in between his gardening rows. Its pretty awesome. He gets them almost year round here in oregon
That's what I was hoping for. I even considered making slurries of different types of mushrooms and pouring them throughout my various mulches to see if that would cause some to pop up in odd places
@@FastGardeningMichigan you definitely could. My friend got spawn and aadded it to layers made of straw, cardboard and pine/fir shavings. He has different types in different rows so is able to grow all year long. Then, he added some oak, maple, alder and fruit tree chips and has an amazing growth of all types there. You can often get log pieces and chips from any tree services for free too. I tend to grow other kinds but have taken contaminated spawn and added to my raised beds, planters and in ground and i have these guys popping up all over the place. Its actually kind of fun.
I grew oysters by buying some at the grocers, slurried it up and soaked a bunch of shredded cardboard and put it in different areas outside. It definitely works. I mulch over it. You could even mulch over your bale out there and will have an amazing mushroom field in your forest some day.
really cool guy :D i like your idea of making it natural nad easy
I've got an indoor wine cap tub going now complete with bugs and other living creatures. Ready to flush. Just gave them what they need in the wild
What do you ask for to ensure you don’t get straw bales exposed to herbicides and grazon and stuff like that?
This was a packaged bale from farm and fleet since no straw bales were available anywhere. Straw for my garden is from a local farmer who grows with no herbicides or pesticides.
I am in W PA. I ordered a 100 gr block of blue oyster mycelium. It is 4/3/23 and I will be inoculating a soaked straw bail tomorrow. We will see if this works? Hopefully the morels will be coming out any day now as well?
Reputable dealers only sell the spawn when your growing area is ready. You are probably a little warmer than me. Ill be doing mine in may
@@FastGardeningMichigan PA is weird on spring. There are a lot of memes out there where it shows ppl with winter coats and shorts on lol. Morels start when the high to low temp average is 50 F. We are there now. We still have cold nights. Going to hit 77 here on Wed. I will soak and cover the bale with a tarp. The natural sugars in the bale will heat it up I am sure? The mycelium was not expensive. Worth a shot.
I’m doing it but only for my needs, so don’t need that much spawn or substrate. I have 3 100g bags of portobello, oyster & shiitake spawn. I am doing a small bag of each. Do what suits your circumstances & need.