You mean what Disney does to everything it touches? Seriously though, this is the perfect way to describe it. They take something people already loved as is and tear it down out of spite, relying on nostalgia to draw people in, and shouting at anyone who complains.
Perhaps if Ms. Zegler rewatched the original, she'd notice that Snow White manages to maintain her kind, trusting nature and dignity despite the abuse she suffers at the hand of her stepmother, overcome her immense fears about being abandoned in the middle of the woods and calm herself down when her (perfectly valid) emotions get the best of her, and then not only befriend a group of men who are very different from her, but establish herself as the respected and valued authority figure among them, encouraging them to be better versions of themselves and bringing genuine joy into their lives. She doesn't demean or belittle the people around her in order to make herself appear strong; she IS strong, in a quiet, gentle way, without the audience or other characters ever having to be directly told that she is.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
As a mother who raised 2 kids all by herself since they were toddlers....I must say there is nothing wrong with a Prince Charming and I’m sick of being told how we are only strong women if we do things on our own. I’m glad we have more choices in life than previous years, but we don’t have to be alone karate chopping people to be someone.
Ewho said u have to raise them alone? Wherreh exactly u hear that ? But if ppl want to raise them alone, and think about it as strong, that is their choice
Agreed. It promises to be a train wreck. Hopefully, Disney will lose $100 million or more and take the hint. I'm not sure they will though. Seems like with their losses lately they just double down.
I just wanted it to be about love. The recent men hating women,women hating men,made everything so toxic. That things being about love is dying 😂. I don't care who save who but I really miss the concept of " love overcomes everything"
Yes, she says that a man won't save her, yet she dreams of being the leader she knows she can be, and the one her father (a man) told her should could become if she was all those things. I mean, maybe she would have never figured it out herself without daddy telling her what she can be. Remember, they are aiming at your children here. They are counting on young couples with young children taking them to see this moving without ever having to see or understand the original story.
Snow White was already a strong women. She got away from her stepmother and she found kindness, love from 7 great friends that valued her. She was incredibly thankful so She took care of their house for them while they were working. Strong women can be incredibly thankful and generous too! She went through hell at home still manage to find live in her heart for others. That right there says everything.
Not just strong, a leader too. That's the irony of this whole thing, Snow White is actually a pretty modern story, except for the kiss in the end. It's too iconic scene to change, but can be fixed easily by giving them a little more history than just one meeting. If their first scene shows an already mature (secret) relationship, then the kiss is fine. Oh, and the queen is also a strong female character. Most of the plot is driven by the female characters, the males have mostly passive roles.
@@sidnotvicious8442 Kissing the corpse of a girl he barely knows? I think there are issues with that. It's not super bad, but it would easy to fix. It's probably worse that they just fall in love and get married without knowing anything about each other, just because one is pretty and the other is a prince. Again, it's an easy fix, just give a few hints that they've known each other for a bit longer.
@@andrasbiro3007 If there was some girl lying there comatose, and the only way to bring them around was to have a prince kiss her gently on the lips, I think her loved ones would handle that.
@@TheDoctor394 Yes, but nobody knew at the time. It's a bit of a weakness of the movie actually. Not just ethically, but logically too. A glass coffin is not exactly usual, it only makes sense because the plot needs the prince to kiss her long after she was declared dead.
Hearing the actress openly state she refused to watch the original movie for years, demanding extra pay for dressing up, and calling the prince a stalker says everything we need to know about her and the movie she's in.
Most people would kill to get paid a few millions dollars to stand around in a dress. Yet she tries to paint it as some arduous ordeal she had to endure, so "deserves" even more money. Entitled, spoiled child.
Oh, they don't care. They've been trying for years now to bury Disney himself and all he's done because it's not good for "modern" Disney, just like Marvel is doing with Stan Lee. If they could snap their fingers and change the company name just like Twitter did, they absolutely would.
Walt Disney? Pah, what did *he* know. privileged white man that he was? Come to think of it, if Disney's so deeply and utterly ashamed of everything that came before the era of fem-extremism, why don't they stop making money off these horrible, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, ableist, anti-birthing-person flicks, take them off the shelves and stop having them available on their streaming platform?
I am 69 years old. I saw Snow White in 1962. I have just watched it for the second time, after all the intervening years. It is a wonderful movie. It is a historical treasure. What Disney is doing to it is a cultural war crime.
@@thomashancock7441 If they could get their way, they may well want to make it vanish and solely stream the new replacement media to their vapid masses. But they can't. It's still cultural vandalism even if it doesn't quite get to the 'cultural war crime' level.
I have stated what they're doing looks like watching Germans walking out of French museums stealing art, statues and other treasures. Just ransacked like common pillaging
Instead of re-examining her attitude, Rachel is already preparing her media narrative as a survivor of cyber bullying and will go on talk shows that allow her to explore her victimhood.
Snow White in the 1937 movie IS a strong female character. She's a young girl who needs protection from an evil queen, but rather being all "woe is me, everyone save me!" And then lounging around being waited on hand and foot, she actually wants to earn her keep and help better the lives of the people who are saving her. She uses her knowledge and abilities to help those who do things for her that she can't do by herself. That's real strength, not just being able to effortlessly overcome all challenges with ease without any help. To be fair though, for a young kid, her running through the forest is a terrifying scene.
Amazing how her desire to EARN her keep is now seen as her being taken advantage of since the dwarves didn’t first try to help her process her trauma. Well, some people process by being empowered to do the things they’re good at instead of being told no no, don’t do anything meaningful to contribute and feel a sense of value when your value is entirely in you breathing.
Who cares if she said “woe is me everyone save me“ she’s 14 she can’t do everything and we all need help sometimes but she was able to support and be grateful for those seven dwarves that did save her life and did take her and that’s what makes her a great character she’s pure.
The transformation scene is also terrifying, and I also would fast-forward it on my vhs player. But that just makes it effective and the animators deserves all the respect for it, not disdain because you as a viewer are a p*ssy.
Exactly, that's it. People nowadays don't seem to know a lot of Grimm's fairy tales - Snow White is one of their spunkier heroines. In many tales, a girl will simply lie down to be killed, sacrificed or mutilated (fairy tales are not actually kiddie stories, did you know?), just because she's such a sweet and innocent girl. When Snow White realizes the huntsman is going to kill her, she fights tooth and nail for her life - first she softens him up by crying, then she runs off into the wilderness, then she seeks shelter and finds a safe place to stay where she can put her skills to use and recover from living in a hostile home. That's a pretty good array of skills for a teenager, whether in a fairy tale or in real life.
You've so nailed it: these movies are more focused on pointing out the details of the original movies that according to the current trend can be seen as outdated than actually offering something better. In the end, all they offer is something that ends up being just self-righteous.
The fact Zegler keeps referring to the original as a "cartoon" shows she is dripping with disdain for it. Walt took a huge leap of faith and the movie was truly groundbreaking for its time. She is trying to put Snow White on the level of a Popeye or Bugs Bunny short and that is just wrong. She's earned a permanent spot on the D-list.
lets be honest does anyone even know who she is and what films she's been in. she's already a D-list actor and gal gadot is a B tier actor at best. neither can act to save their lives
Just like a shallow minded woke simpleton. . . she thinks that just because cartoons are done in animation, then all animations must therefore be cartoons.
My thoughts exactly. It really irks me how she’s attempting to degrade what is considered a timeless animated movie by slapping a “cartoon” tag on it. In general, I don’t trust or socialize with people that don’t have the brain cells to appreciate and differentiate one format from the other.
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run. I fix this for you: This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented left-green-woke suicidal run. They ALL do this. Annheuser-Busch(Budlight),Target, Disney,Ford, Blizzard etc. Its not just the movie-genre its ALL of them.
"It's dated when it comes to things like women in power"....while the original movie was about women in power...the evil queen and Snow later becoming queen. The prince wasn't even the focus of the original and he had very few scenes, was barely in the movie. What are they freaking talking about? 😂😂
@@LillyMichaelson637the fact the prince is supposed to arrive and save the girl is the "disgusting idea" leave aside the fact the dwarfs killed the evil Queen and they changed the really ending
The thing is, the old Snow White was a girl boss already. She basically took over a house of 7 men, flipped it, bossed them around a bit, made new rules (washing hands etc.) yet was still sweet and feminine.
So, a girl boss is somebody who does all your chores (and those of your six buddies) but gets you to wash your hands in a "sweetly and feminine" way. I think you might have a wonderful future in Florida politics right now.
@@Julia-lk8jn What?? Did she do ALL the chores and make all the things the dwarves made? I highly doubt that. But I also note that you have nothing to say about her making new rules and ordering the men around. So your comment is completely one sided. In fact I think you might have a future living in San Francisco in a tent with your other political leftist cronies right now.
@@Julia-lk8jndo you like the original Disney animated Snow White movie? I think it was the first oficial animated Disney movie that was not strictly a musical and it put Disney on map and its still great.
Your assessment of Zegler is spot on! "Not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past." Brilliant! How could Disney be so eager to destroy it's beloved history? The problem with feeding a politically correct, 'Woke,' 'Monster,' is that eventually, the monster will eat you too!
Ah yes, the extremely popular and realistic feminine hero character that has absolutely no flaws, overcomes absolutely no challenges and the only thing she ever had to do was believe in herself.
In the original, a woman is the heroine, a woman is also the villain. The two human male characters adore her, even the one who was supposed to kill her, and the dwarves exist to serve her, protect her, and tell her how awesome she is. You would think they would love that, and they still found something wrong with it. You go girls.
Indeed. The Evil Queen is already a leader totally in touch with her own power. Did anyone notice? I guess we needed an Snow White: Evil Queen in Training film.
Snow White's strength came from her kindness. She was poor and lonely but she kept her spirit up singing and enjoying life, she had that kind of strength not many people have. Her being soft and nice was why she was so loved by everyone, even the animals. She manages to win over the huntsman, the dwarfs and everyone around. Humility is not a weakness, it can be a virtue. This actress could have learned from that.
@@donaldb.9995 Thank you, don't worry, I got it. It was just helpful to me. As a non native english speaker I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for your comment so I appreciate it.
To me, Snow White has never been the "fairest of them all" purely based on how she looks -- her heart of gold, positivity and child-like naivete are the reasons why everyone (even animals) loves her. That's not something that the evil step mother can ever replicate, let alone overtake. Rachel Zegler does not possess any of the abovementioned qualities, and it shows -- even if she acts brilliantly. Heck, I would even say Gal Gadot feels more Snow White, and Rachel more evil step mother, age difference aside. I'm sad that another fond childhood memory is going to be butchered.
Modern women.. Always complaining about living a life of endless unearned advantages.. And their solution is always to give them more unearned advantages..
Female narcissists have to paint themselves as victims otherwise people pay more attention to victims than them. Male narcissists don't do the whole victimhood thing because it doesn't work for men - society sees nothing more pathetic than a male victim. "Man up" all the feminists would say. Male narcissists will go the other way and lie about how great they have it so they become enviable. What's scary about the culture now is most of these women aren't born with narcissistic personality disorders. It's not in their DNA, it's just encouraged. They're being trained to be narcissists.
Judge her all you want but when Snow White is running in the forest and all the scary faces appeared, that scared me as a kid, the whole scene where the Queen transforms herself is also scary. And the last scene when the dwarfs are chasing her and she falls to her death and the vultures look at each other and fly to eat her, my 5 year old self was shaking!
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude thanks for your permission, I shall continue to do so. Almost everything and anything unknown scares people when they're children, it is quite redundant in saying that as an adult. If that is still her takeaway from the movie NOW, then once again, it says so much about her. I was scared of the first ghost in chains scene in Mickey's Christmas Caroll as a kid, that certainly wouldn't be worth mentioning as an adult.
The original film is an artistic masterpiece. You could watch the entire movie on mute and still be completely absorbed by the breathtaking animation. And likewise you could listen to it with your eyes closed and have your soul touched by the music. What a legacy.
Snow White is a priceless piece of art that revolutionized the way animation was done. It's entirely hand drawn and colored, frame by frame. Shitting on it is like shitting on Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane. Any actor worth their salt would know better, but also if Disney is going in this direction, any actor worth their salt would know not take this trainwreck of a part. Disney has completely lost their roots, and I'm waiting for them to give this same treatment to Mickey Mouse himself at this point. Like turn Minney into some kind of boss babe. It's a shameless money grab that's unappealing, uncreative, and preachy to anyone outside of the Hollywood bubble. People watch entertainment to escape reality, not to have it shoved in their faces.
Remember the Mickey Mouse movie where he, Donald and Goofy were playing the Three Musketeers and Minnie and Daisy had the damsel in distress roles? With Minnie almost exacerbating the bubbly, lovey-dovey princess trope? Bet it wouldn't fly today.
I gotta say, the original Snow White looks stunning even now, almost 90 years later. Beautiful colors, beautiful backgrounds, just beautiful all the way around. There’s a feeling of heft and weight to the animation which I believe contributes to its timelessness.
it is truly sad that this level of hand drawn animation will never come back (there's several reasons for that but the most important one is that it's not a craft being taught anymore).
you gotta watch those disney docs form that era! so incredible what they did for the time and budget in like 1939. Its insane how impressive a huma feat it is and was. People have no idea what a risk that was, it nearly doomed Disney. They went out on a limb. It was very very very expensive, many worked without pay for overtime obviously thats animation. when people saw it theaters it was like seeing aliens. Imagine showing taht level of colour in cartoon to people who'd only seen steamboat willie if tehy were lucky. then they see all that. Its a marvelous pice of human achievement and it says a lot about us as humans imo. it was like animation's moon landing. before we did they said it was undoable.
@@carljohan9265Im really glad that unique animation is starting to come back recent years, whether it be new tmnt, spider verse franchise, the bad guys, mitchells vs machines, the last wish puss in boots over these same looking disney cgi barf fests
In the original, Snow WAS a very strong character. She persevered despite horrific loss, found help, inspired others, and even TURNED a man who was sent to kill her. The evil queen was a perfect example of the dangers of narcissism and the corruption of power. The love story was simple but very effective, the characters (all of them) had some form of arc, even if some were a bit more shallow than others. And all of it accomplished with cel animation and in 83 minutes. There is a reason that it is credited as the foundation of Disney. Like almost all remakes, this one will fall far short and, hopefully, will be quickly consigned to the dustbin of history.
AND, that cell animation has more individual layers than anyone has done, including Disney, before OR since. It's a masterwork of Animation. It deserves respect for that ALONE. It took THOUSANDS of original, hand-drawn cells, from individual artists, to make Snow White... what a way to treat your Magnum Opus, Disney...
Disney is doing a damn good job of tanking ALL of their movies before their releases. Keep it up, Disney! The great Hollywood reset is inevitable at this point, right? Please?
This is the Great Reset. This is the Neo-Marxist takeover of this aspect of our culture. This is not going to stop. The trans-agenda trained people working there have been brainwashed into this for forty years and now they have power. This is just the beginning of the destruction. Think: it is everywhere - Target, Bud Lite, Nike, Victoria Secret, the M-She-U, in the schools, in our institutions. The Alphabet People Flag Parades are VICTORY Parades. Settle in for much, much more of this cultural devastation. Cheers!
The male characters in the original Snow White portrayed the sort of traits that we would all want for men of today. The Huntsman, commanding by the Queen to kill Snow White, instead let her live. The dwarves took her in and kept her as safe as they could. The Prince revived her from certain death with a kiss of love. Disney today sucks.
Yep. And by 2037 all of her films will be forgotten and the 100 year old Snow White will still be a classic. The only Rachel people will remember is Rachel from Friends.
“it's no longer 1937 [...], she's not gonna be dreaming about true love” Welp. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Never thought I'd hear anyone _openly_ say that love is an outdated concept that has no place in modern world, but here we have it.
Well, if you think about it, the idea of true love suddenly appearing the save you is silly and naive. Most people have to work at it to make it work. But no harm in wishing for love.
@bui3415 it's naive? Why don't people realize these are fantasy stories? True and perfect love at first sight is a fantasy that makes a nice story. That's why fairy tales go back thousands of years. I really want to understand when and why people decided they were supposed to be some kind of instruction manual for living life and therefore decided that they must be harmful. Stories are meant to be enjoyed. And the way they remove love interests from the majority of modern princess stories is not very enjoyable nor does it seem especially wise. Like remember girls, career aspirations are more important than loving relationships. That sounds healthy
My generation (30+ millennials) are already regretting the push of career over family. So many people I know worked instead of settling down to have kids, and are now discovering it is hard building relationships and having children at this stage.
You said it my friend. I ended up having to stop talking to a girl once due to her saying "there's no such thing as love, you have to look at a relationship like a business partnership, how much will you bring to the house, what jobs have you worked," I was shook not even gonna lie, luckily for me I grew up with a sensible sister and I myself found my wife and yes Love is an actual thing
There’s something especially appalling about someone wanting to invalidate previous generation’s accomplishments, while at the same time, use those accomplishments for their own benefit. A real shameless lack of honor.
Well, it's actually a great analogy for modern-day feminism ! They want the perks of "male leadership"... But without the hard-work and duties that go with it. Notice that female writers often times write "Mary-Sue's", who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Quite telling !
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
100 years from now, the original Snow White movie will still be viewed as one of the greatest pieces of animation ever made. The live action movie will be lucky to be a footnote.
The narcissism and hubris of youth is shining through her words. Too young to understand how wrong she is, but also old enough to have learned all the things the world wanted her to learn up until now. She has yet to challenge any of her preconceived notions and her cocktail of ignorance is strong and will last for many years. Once it wears off, she will look back on these days in horror.
Zegler thinks that the movie having men helping a young lady threatened by her stepmother that tries to kill her is a problem. Like, literally all the men in the movie are on Snow White's side. The hunter even sacrificed his life and dignity in order to save Snow White, because the queen stated that if he failed there would be punishment. And the dwarfs literally tried to fight the evil queen, risking their lives to avenge Snow White's "death". This proofs how perverted is the mind of a feminist.
Fr Hollywood seems so anti-men now that it makes even a tomboy like me disappointed. I was laughed at for saying that there are still good men because my dad did his best to save me from my abusive mom. My bf of 5 years now was also the first to make me feel unconditional love, allowing me to do whatever I wanted without judgement. I could be all hormonal during my period and say I want to "kill" him to his face (ofc I don't mean it), and he wouldn't budge.
"It's not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past" is such an inspired quote I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a legit literary quote in future.
Also just noticing the profile pic, if youre a performing artist like me, keep fighting the good fight and bringin the real stuff directly to the people. I wont let culture die im going to keep growing it ✊
Of course she calls it stalking because she thinks social media/phones/tinder has existed since the dawn of time. They had no other way of staying in touch. I doubt she even knows how to send a letter.
Last year, I literally had to teach a summer intern how to send a letter. She was fresh out of high school and had never in her life sent anything through the mail. She couldn't even figure out how to fold the paper to fit in the envelope without being shown how. That's a failure to learn geometry to any useful degree, not merely being unfamiliar with "analog" technology. I've never been so saddened by the experiential gap between my generation an the ones coming up behind me - before or since.
I think Tangled was the last truly great Disney fairy tale adaptation. It made changes to the original story so that it wasn’t just a copy + paste, but they also left a lot of the elements that were crucial to its identity in. It had a female protagonist who could fight for herself, but understood that sometimes she needed help too. More specifically, if it weren’t for someone else’s efforts, she would’ve willingly stayed locked up in the tower, a prisoner of her illegitimate mother forever. The male character actually had character along with a redemption arc, despite being secondary to the story. He also served as comic relief most of the time on top of all this. Most secondary characters these days are doomed to have only one defining quality, which doesn’t really change throughout the story. He also actually has a motivation to follow the protagonist around and into danger rather than just because he really, really likes her. The antagonist was also female, but she wasn’t all powerful, unlike a lot of modern female characters. She realized physical strength wasn’t her forte, so she relied more on her wit and manipulative tendencies to achieve her goals. In other words, all of the characters felt believable, to an extent, because they all had strengths and weaknesses. But more importantly, they *recognized* those, and used them to their advantage. The characters actually *used* their brains instead of relying on one character to be the smarts while the rest are just meat-heads waiting to be defeated. What I don’t understand is why Disney fails to grasp this concept. No-one hates female protagonists or antagonists. We just hate the ones that don’t feel like actual people. It’s a mark of lazy writing, and we feel ripped-off by it.
not only that but it also adapted and pushed the boundaries in animation techniques, you know what disney is known for!, rather than just shove a camera at a pretty face
'greatest works of art in history' Now now... let's keep it in the category of animated films or maybe limit the category to 20th century (even then, there is so much more greater art out there - at least in Europe)
The original Snow White was a Strong female character. She was kind, thoughtful, industrious, idealistic but practical. She was a character of a person you would want to meet in real life. She doesn't deserve mockery and neither does her prince who rescued her from a coma. The dwarfs were hard working, good hearted and open minded. They learned lessons and grew into better versions of themselves. The movie was celebrated because the characters were wonderful.
“It’s not a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past” was so immaculately said. It had chiasmus, vivid imagery, and a sharp message packed into just one sentence.
Revolution is only possible when you've convinced enough people that the old ways that got them where they are, are actually the problem. The communists in Vietnam and China expressly destroyed and rewrote their own history, otherwise they would never have succeeded. Thankfully enough survived where it wasn't all lost, but much of it was.
I can’t believe that a Disney film would tank its film by pushing THE MESSAGE and alienating any fan base that it could’ve built to pander to people who won’t watch it
A message to all those “strong female characters”. In movies. And real life. If you need to tell someone you’re a “strong female character”? You’re not one.
So true a REAL WOMAN doesn't need to prove anything to appease this modern way of thinking, it must be so confusing for them to be part of the new world order that they don't need a man etc there's nothing wrong with dreaming a prince will ride up on his noble steed and sweep you off your feet especially for young girls , just seems the agenda these days is not allow children to be children
Rachel Zegler says it all: The reason why all of those remakes turn into franchise killing flops is not that the audiences don‘t like these characters, movies and series anymore. The reason is that the people who are running these shows nowadays don‘t like them. So one reason is Rachel Zegler, another Kathleen Kennedy.
The current crop of creators see past works as a platform to prop up their own ‘superior’ versions, relying on brand recognition and existing fans to support their works. But as past works have shown, fans do not appreciate people butchering their favourites for their own egos.
To me it seems Kathleen is doing what is expected out of her. Hence not fired even after multiple duds. Its the higher execs that need to change. The ones that convince investors with shiny presentation to get their money.
What’s more insulting about Rachel’s opinion of Snow White is that millions of women who love Snow White would take the role in a heartbeat, and she’s just acting if it’s a chore. She should be grateful she’s not only being payed to do this, but now she’s the face of Disney’s very first film in a century. Young girls aspire to become their Disney princesses and Rachel has gaslit everyone to think being kind and gentle is weak. Kindness is strong in so many ways.
Paid* Also, brainwashing doesn't equal gaslighting. Gaslighting means trying to convincing someone they are crazy or to at least question their sanity. An actual example of gaslighting: Person A does something in front of Person B. Person B: Hey, why'd you do that? Person A: Do what? You're imagining things. Person B: No, I'm not. Person A: You sure about that? Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. Person B: Maybe you're right . . . No hate meant, I just see people misuse words all the time.
Snow White’s strength comes through with her resiliency in the face of unimaginable hardship/abuse. If they wanted to create a modern version which focused on her as a strong character who resists the forces of evil they could have written a story about the Evil Queen spending her whole life trying get rid of Snow’s kindness. I feel like so many people would resonate with society/abusive households trying to change them. Seeing an inspiring character hold on could give many people in bad situations hope.
Like one wise UA-camr said: "you are not stupid because you are a woman. You are stupid because you are stupid". Those words are easily applicable to Rachel Zegler.
Don't you miss the days when a cool, liberated frontwoman could sing a song titled 'stupid girl' and trust the audience and media to be sufficiently mature and discriminating to know how it was meant, and would never dream of having to even 'clarify', let alone hand-wring or apologize?
The original Snow White is honestly a very admirable character. She expects nothing for free, she works hard, she faces an uncertain future with optimism and singing, and she is kind and gentle and always believes better days are coming. Many of her qualities were exactly what Great Depression audiences wanted and needed to see. And I would say we need to see it today too. But today, our society is unable to recognize strength unless it comes in the form of killing bad guys and leading armies into battle. How sad.
I think most, or at least a good portion, of society are still completely normal and can recognize it. It seems like the ones pushing the agenda that are the problem, not the general public. EVERY video I've seen covering liberal nonsense the comment section is 95% opposed to it.
She also gets raped in the very old version. I do admire that kind of passiveness in women, I mean she was in a coma, but still! The new one will never be able to live up 2 that.
@madhurgupta854omg, no don't you know.that.most fairy tales's original version are pretty brutal? They are meant to be cautionary tales, like what young girls shouldn't do. Those days don't have the filter modern-day people have.
The original film was made in 1937 but the story takes place in the 1500s. Why does Disney not see how out of place it is to put a story of women's empowerment into a film that took place in the 1500's? Maybe we can do a story on Abraham Lincoln as well and have Boot assassinated him with a high powered rifle instead.Why does all of Disney's films seem to not understand context?
German girl here! In preschool in Halloween (named different here) I always went as Snow White, with the yellow-blue dress my mum made herself. It is a beautiful, mid-European Fairytale and she's insulting our culture. So sad man, so sad ... everyone wants a better world and keeping on fighting fire with fire...
"...It's an 85-year old movie..." Yes dear it is. It's an 85-year old movie that literally changed the face of modern film and shook up the studio system forever.
I can't believe this stupid brat was allowed to be in a movie. Without Snow White, regardless what you think of it, NOTHING would have come afterwards. It's THE movie which changed the industry.
I’m fairly certain it was a desperate move as well from the, at the time, “toddler” studio since they were having money issues or something like that at the moment. The beautiful and horrifying thing about desperation is that sometimes the most wonderful things happen when you’re left with no choice but to either rage against the dying light or go softly into that silent night.
Whats weird to me is that you'd think disney would treat snow white with a certain level of reverence. It is the reason the company got off the ground after all.
But it doesn't represent the trendy values of today. I mean.. it has dwarves... a female lead who doesn't punch a white man in the face even once... and a dashing prince who is clearly not meeting the required example of today's Weak Managed Male. No wonder they want to erase it from history.. imagine if the teens of today actually watched it. They'd be SO confused about why a man was necessary to help the Strong White Female... it doesn't make sense....
The people that run Disney now hate ol' Walt and everything he stood for, and so it's not surprising they wouldn't respect what he created. And he knew who they were and called them out a few times, rumor has it.
WTF is wrong with her dreaming about love?! I'm a woman, btw. I'm so tired of the narrative that women have to be "strong and independent" and can't fall in love. Women can be strong and still fall in love. They can still be strong and yet rely on a man sometimes. I hate this new narrative being pushed.
Yes, we'll said. I've often thought how pandering it is to tell women they are wrong to want to indulge in old fashioned romance tropes. It's funny too that nobody sees that the rescue fantasy goes both ways typically. Usually the male character is struggling to find a truly good women. They are men of high social standing who are fed up with the inauthenticity of their surroundings and a lack of purpose. Typically it's about finding someone who will help them to be fair and just and keep them grounded. The idea being, without purpose and guidance, they know they would become cruel and resentful. It's really a two way hero fantasy. Both are "damsels in distress" until they rescue each other. Cheesy, but timeless...
The women screaming about how love is weakness and how all women have to be strong and independent...are the ones that will be found half-eaten by their 42 cats.
It encourages harmful ideas like heteronormativity and raising a family - or god forbid - motherhood. We dont want little girls getting crazy ideas like that.
You make some good points, and the upcoming "strong female character" Snow White does sound completely awful. But even OG Snow White isn't timeless. It's just excellent and for that reason, much more enduring than other works. But let's not forget the 1937 film was itself a "modernized" reworking of much older source material, changed in ways that the producers thought 1937 audiences would approve of (e.g. the Queen was SW's biological mother; she's downgraded to step-mother, which is more palette-able; Grimm's Queen was cannibalistic; "wake her with a kiss" never happened in the Grimm OG, it was invented entirely.) So bits of 1937 SW do feel a bit dated, and that's OK, it's still a masterpiece we can enjoy.
"This isn't a passing of the torch; it's a torching of the past" is one of MauLer's best quotes ever. It's not a funny quote, but it just so accurately sums up the state of modern entertainment that it belongs in the history books that will written about this era of storytelling.
It's a Marxist/Maoist concept, and it's happening not just in entertainment. It is more widespread as you see AB InBev (Bud Lite) and other corporations stepping in it as they purposely tear down their past to make way for their "brave new world".
Disney literally said it plans on not making any new physical releases and controls the main source where you can watch the movie without a physical copy. If they wanted, they could make it disappear as easily as they did with Song of the South.
Well.. a) Because love means you need someone else, and that's a big no-no for modern feminists b) Because strong family ties is bad for authoritarian governements => Someone might not rebel to save himself, but he/she might do it to save their child or parent. In short, the more miserable and alone you are, the better docile consumer you become.
@@goofygrandlouis6296what’s also bad for authoritarian governments are people who defy tradition in general for both ideals of individualism and common wealth.
Girls aren’t allowed to fall in love anymore, become a mother, a wife, a homemaker, a creator of the next generation. They all have to grow up to become self absorbed childless girl boss spinsters. Well according to Disney that is.
I think Rachel Zeglar has done us all an unintentional favor by warning us all how bad that movie is. We won’t make the mistake of seeing that train wreck.
They did pretty well with Beauty and the Beast as well as Cinderella, in my opinion. It still felt like the original animated versions for the most part.
I mean we don't really need her to tell us that Disney don't know how to make good movies anymore, right now we can really ignore EACH movie they release. But yeah, she's confirming all that with what she says...it's crazy how 100 years later today's "Disney" is as far away from (Walt) Disney and those movies as it can get. oO
That doesn’t matter, it’s still going to be watched by people and influence the future into that direction. The general audience needs to see how terrible this is going to be BEFORE they buy movie tickets
Imagine being a 90 pound woman and thinking you are strong and independent. It took a bunch of 170-230lb men to build your house, you aren't even strong enough to pick up a 2x4x8.
Lmao the fact that the actress for Snow Fucking White, that super minor and unimportant character in The Story of Snow White, said she only watched the original ONCE and didn’t like it is just….perfect. Her obvious disdain for the source material, her unapologetic arrogance in clearly believing that what they’ve produced is superior; I couldn’t think of a better way to encapsulate the genuine hatred and unbridled loathing that Hollywood feels for their audiences.
She should get together with the writers from The Witcher, with their combined disdain for the source material for their own projects they would get along famously.
@@monal3544she was scared and just watched it once, is wgat she really said 1:17 But if you see her other comments... it's obvious she didn't like it.
The irony is that Disney’s new age heroines are beginning to act and sound like the villains of the story itself. And they seriously expect us to believe Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks?
Lol, but I have to say Lily Collins is a class act by all appearances and seems to be worthy of representing a Disney Princess. Emma Watson “Hermione” gave some misguided feminist soapbox speeches, but still seems grounded and likable. Rachel, on the other hand? Wowww, holy sh*t. Dumping on the original movie like it’s r@cist or something?? What a spoiled generation!
85 years ago doesn’t mean “exactly dated” it means “timeless Classic” Snow White is a German fairytale from the 1500s WTF it wasn’t “dated” in 1937 despite being 400+ years old…. It was “timeless Classic” still is!
But stories get improved over time. Society progresses and stories need to be updated over time to reflect that. You wouldn't want to wear a dress made in 1937. As Shakespeare said, "Stories are like apps. You need the latest updates."
While the tale probably has origins in European literature from the early modern age the version we know as Snow White was written down by the brothers grimm in 1812 and edited in the 1850's to be more child friendly.
I gotta know where that "Shite, shite, shite" scene was from that looks hilarious. This seemed like the best high like to low comment ratio to get me the best chance of an answer. Don't let me down
I always figured that how gentle, sensitive and humble Snow White was, was one of the reasons she was "fairer" than the queen. I don't think this actress will be able to convince the audience that she posesses those virtues.
I don't think that's the point of the movie lol. But when you are so deeply entrenched in your gender essentialism, biases and gender norms ofc a woman who speaks her mind is seen as not so humble, a man who does that = an alpha, oh the double standards.
Snow White was the world's first ever full length animated feature and Walt Disney was rightfully very proud of it. So I'm sad they are allowing her to mock it like she is.
@@Babyblue115the point of the og story is not about snow white being a leader. its about preserverance and keep being kind through hard times, about dreaming of true love and meeting them. Snow white by no mean a bystander lol she preserve, survive, and still take care those around her even she herself is going through abuse. If they wanna make a movie about leadership make a new fairytale or movie, dont change/ruin a classic that have been loved by many.
Says the original snow white is extremely dated when it comes to women in power yet the villain is an all powerful queen who does magic. Didn't realize the queen was actually a man
Snow White was once considered such a sacred movie by the Walt Disney Company that it was the last movie to receive a home video release. The attitudes of the executives (Roy Disney and his allies) who resisted it was that Snow White was so iconic as a landmark moment in the history of not just animated cinema but ALL cinema that the very act of plugging it into a VCR as just another mindless product to be consumed was antithesis to everything Walt created it to be - a legitimization of the art form of animation. They believed Snow White had to be properly enjoyed as an artistic masterpiece, in a theater, with the right frame of mind. Of course this view wasn't going to hold out forever against the money left on the table or the inevitable antiquated feel of the movie compared to masterpieces of the Disney Renaissance which perfected the techniques Snow White first attempted. But hearing the things people involved in a Snow White remake are saying about the movie that literally made the Walt Disney Company what it is... I just don't know what they expect to happen next.
With regard to the home video thing, I remember my grandpa buying that for us and coming over all excited and telling us that now WE could see the first film he and his brothers had watched in a theatre as children. I can still picture, in my mind, my brothers and I sitting with him and grandma and my parents and Snow White playing on the TV.
If this flops, Disney should can all of their future remakes effective immediately. I heard they canceled The Hunchback of Notre Dame remake, which is good, but the ones still in the wings should be done away with, too. The animated "One that Started it All" should be the live-action "One that Stopped it All". By that, end the remakes, not the animated films.
Its kind of smoothbrained to s**t on the movie that made Disney the animation giant. Without Snow White, she wouldn't be directing a woke film that s**ts on Snow White.
Snow White was already empowering and independent. The Dwarfs saved her and in turn she helped take care of them and showed them kindness and love. Not every female character needs to be this towering girl boss that doesn't need a man in order to be looked at as "strong". That shit feels like it's everywhere now.
Wrong. She showed them kindness and care first, and THEN they saved her. The message that you shouldn’t need to be a good person is more important than ever in a time where there’s been so much emphasis on “now owing anyone a smile.” What that phrase means is no one owes it to anyone else to be civil and kind because that somehow takes more energy than people have. If you don’t have the energy to be civil and kind, then you’re a lazy asshole who feels power in being mean. Make civil and kind your default, and it’s being mean that will take energy.
@@Luke-zj6ge don't strawman your way out of this. I require some writing skills from someone who writes. If that doesn't align with your ideals then maybe you should change those to something more utilitarian, in attempt to let wisdom finally catch up to you, though judging by your style, you've always been faster.
There already is a strong female character in the original story... The evil Queen! She doesn't want love, she just wants to be the leader she knows she can be. And she certainly isn't rescued by a prince. She is just trying to get rid of the little upstart. 😂
Can't believe this isn't a bigger talking point, it literally directly counters Rachel's notions that the film's "dated" for lacking strong female characters! The fact that it took a literal intervention from the sky to stop her speaks to her power in and of itself. It's a far more effective testament of power than whatever 'modern' ideas of boring infallibility and unlikeable characterisations most modern Hollywood writers seem to be cultishly churning out these days.
Yes. The most chilling part of the film is where she kicks the bucket at a skeleton that one can only presume belonged to the previous king, going, "Thirsty?".
snow white is like many old disney princesses a good nice loving caring women. She gives us the example of compassion, responding to hate by love. This is true strength, compared to this arrogant behaviour we want to teach girls nowadays
Geez her facial expressions when she talks actually says more about her than the words she speaks. She truly does believe shes of greater intelligence than anyone around her
Fs should Please stop parasiting. Make your own. No one stopped you. No one oppressed you. No one ever did. It is you who couldn't do it. Stop barging into established male spaces then shriek on about how you are the victim when we are in the same room to get this favor and that. Stop welfare and affirmative action. Metoo, gender paygab, glass ceiling, Period vacation. Do all you want on your own space instead of nagging at men to do it for you. Welfare yourselves with your own taxes only. Gender segregation just like the old days. You can only have rights to the level of responsibility you take. Otherwise it is parasitism and you end up leeching at others who are responsible.
She is no different than any millenial and zoomer i have ever met, when it comes to history and western popular culture. I just hope that they would shut their pieholes about anything that was created before the year 2000.
As an artist and illustrator it is especially painful to hear people completely dismiss the pioneering, groundbreaking and brilliant achievements of generations before us. The talents and ingenuity of those involved in creating the original Snow White is staggering. This person couldn’t tell you the first basic rules of hand drawn cel animation let alone have the patience and fortitude to draw or paint thousands of key frames, in-betweens, backgrounds or any other tedious shit job that even brilliant seasoned veterans were tasked to do. Just more proof that microphones in front of people’s faces can have adverse effects and make them stupid.
I'm watching this after 2024's D23 and this critique not only summarizes the problems with the film, but the company's creative trajectory in general. They can't see the forest for the trees.
It is a travesty to consider what a live action Snow White could have looked like in the hands of people who actually loved the story. Heck, Cinderella (2015) was beautifully done, so it is heartbreaking to see so many beloved stories get flushed down the drain.
It's good these suck and are failing, perhaps Disney will invest into making new stories. Instead of you know, remaking old ones, but worse. Plus live action as a medium is over valued, animation wins on every metric except for low budget indie dramas.
@StimParavane he really did. The story was built upon in a way that was heartwarming, the cast was incredible, and every detail in the filmmaking was gorgeous.
Anyone can make a Snow White movie. The story was created by the brothers Grimm in the early 1800's and is in the public domain. We just cant use anything that is distinct to Disney's version of the story they published in the 1930's such as the distinctive dress snow white wears in that movie. It also couldn't be called, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"
As someone who was obsessed with Snow White as a child. (Seriously, I had about eight different versions in book form and about six on video!) Rachel lacks the most fundamental point of the story and the majority of fairytales.... The Prince is the Reward not the saviour. Snow White is the hero of the story. She's the one who escapes and carves out a life for herself. She could have lain down and waited to be rescued but she didn't! She rolls up her sleeves and gets things done. This spoilt princess who never dirtied her hands on anything before. (The Disney film was a pioneer in coloured animation so they had to do a quick visual to convey the Queen hating Snow White. Hence the Cinderella start which is in no other version.) Okay, she gets tricked about 3 times but what do you expect from a sheltered naive 14 year old! I'm getting really sick of female characters only being considered strong if they kick arse and "rescue themselves." People and situations can't always be punched away or "Girl bossed" through. There are many different types of strength in the world (Which the old Disney cartoons absolutely covered. The female characters aren't wilting wallflowers! It's actually the very opposite of inclusive!
Snow white inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...
As a young girl, growing up with a narcissist mother and a rather emotionally absent and tyrannical father, Snow White and Cinderella gave me so much hope and resilience to look up to! There is nothing more powerful than to preserve your kind and honest nature, your cheerful and loving heart, in the face of adversity! Snow White isn’t a „dumb damsel in distress“ - she survives years and years of trauma, losing her parents, being neglected and psychologically abused by her step mother, growing up in isolation, finding out she was supposed to be murdered and fleeing the next second with nothing but the clothes she‘s wearing, facing homelessness and befriending little people she‘s never met before, treating them like the family she never had. Snow White is a tale of the strength it takes to keep your head up high, even in the most dire circumstances. It’s a tale of the friendships that will save us even if our own family is trying to destroy us. It‘s a tale about our inner bond with nature and how we can always turn towards it’s grace and the virtue of it‘s creations to guard and to guide us, to bring us joy and keep us company. (Snow White‘s bond with the animals.) As a child the astounding thing to me never was and never has been the fact that the prince kissed her back to life - it was the fact that she didn’t die long before that. The fact that she never gave up. And who are these people to judge a young girl‘s wish to find a love, deeper than any pain she has ever suffered? Isn’t that what we all hope for? I know it‘s what I hoped for as a teenager. The thought of one day meeting somebody who would love me for who I am and creating a family of our own kept me going through nearly two decades of childhood abuse. And I still love to be alive, I still randomly sing around the house - especially while cleaning - and I highly doubt this new version of the movie has to offer any true virtue but only the signaling of it.
I really like your comment. It made me sad though. You have had a tough life ☹️ I also grew up with a narcissist mother and an absent faher and that has given me scars for life. Even if I am 52 year old man now with a wonderful family of my own, the experience from my child hood is still like a wound that never stops bleeding. I hope your life is much better now. ❤
I’m right there with you with both of you. I to have had the same dynamic, and my life was very rough. I’ve had to teach myself everything I know. Luckily I have my own little family now, and I can see both of you have made something out of nothing. Both of you have a wonderful day ❤️
Indeed ! Resilience is the source of genuine power. The "Hero's journey". And feminists don't understand that. They want the social status of men.. but without the drive and responsabilities. Which is why they always write "Mary-Sue" characters, who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Like Cpt. Marvel. 👎
I still remember the times when Snow White and fairy tales in general were about friendship and people having fun, and not about power struggles over leadership. They've managed to suck all the fun and joy out of these stories.
Zeglers Snow White sounds like fanfiction and she’ll look like a teenager in cosplay - which isn’t a good for someone born in 2001. But she’s a stereotypical Gen Z so 😂. Idgaf about her skin color. I care that she embodies the literal opposite of what Snow White’s character is. She sneers at traditional femininity, which tells me she’s not really a feminist at all; she’s a faux feminist. Snow White is a teenage girl that wants to escape an abusive environment and live in peace with her future love. She’s brave af because the huntsman gave her an opportunity to escape, and she took it. She carved out her own life. That’s a huge thing for an abuse victim.
In snow white, the original version, the evil witch was forced to dance in red-hot iron shoes until she died. Fairy tales are not nice, they are warnings for children. But Disney left everything out he didn't like, it was for american kids. He kept more or less to the original story and made a fortune. Now the wokies throw out everything else and just steal the name to push their fascist ideas on everybody. And insult all europeans while they are at it. Same with Cleopatra and the Little mermaid, pissing on our heritage and stealing it, then blackwashing it .
The problem is she focused on the negative. Every interview she says how awful the old movie was, not considering people who likes the old movie. She should focus on the positive thing in the new movie without roasting old one. Plus in the Old movie the prince saving her is just a detail, she managed to escape the hunter killing her, she manager to survive on her own, she managed to live with the Seven dwarfs and make them admire her, she also helped them and worked in order to be accepted there. That sounds pretty badass and independent woman to me, while still being feminine.
Really she didn’t even escape the huntsman, the huntsman spared her because she was a kind soul. When she found the dwarves’ cottage she says to the animals that led her there she can offer to cook and clean for them in exchange for shelter and she made good on her offer. Out of all the dwarves Grumpy was the last one to warm up to her but he was the one leading the chase after the queen, even when they knew what the queen was capable of. They even tried to kick Snow out because they feared the queen’s wrath, but thanks to Snow’s caring and kind personality they overcame their fear. Finally one detail I find gets overlooked is that for most of her life Snow was treated as a housemaid, even her stepmother the queen. Yet she remained the cheerful, romantic girl she is throughout the movie.
Seriously, if you have seen the movie and have two brain cells you realize it isn't all about Prince Charming, he does the magic kiss thing at the end and happily ever after, but the interest of the movie lies in Snow White and the dwarves and the stepmother. That the story is framed by her love interest is important as a framework but it doesn't determine the characters and what's interesting and compelling about them. It's just story illiteracy to think that way.
Disney didn’t write the story, this is an old fairytale from the 1600’s or so. Yes Disney’s movie was a classic retelling of a very old story. It’s not up to anyone to decide this classic tale needs changing. And as usual, why? If you want a medieval tale of a strong and powerful princess, then write you one! And quit pretending this has anything to do with Snow White
I used to be a grip (for those who don't know, grips are production crew members). I wonder if she would support giving residuals to the people who don't just "stand in a dress for 18 hours". Everyone else on set is actually doing something while she just stands/sits there and waits for the next shot. The amount of running around as a crew member is insane. But yeah, she deserves even more money because she had to stand in a dress
Fame brings fortune. Anonymity doesn't pay. That's why an NBA star brings in more in a year than the gym teacher who taught him to play makes in a lifetime. ='[.]'=
I think it's sad and funny how people who have to stand around 8 hours a day in the dress at Disney world will never make as much in their whole life as this girl is getting for "18 hours in a dress".
The millions of dollars she'll get paid to be the star of a Disney movie are already more money than most people will make in their whole lives. But this spoiled brat wants more.
Can you imagine taking a beautiful story about Snow White - the fairest of them all, kind soul, who doesn’t judge, is so open hearted, that even a killer doesn’t have the heart to kill her - and 7 dwarfs, who live alone in the middle of nowhere because the society doesn’t accept them, even though they are in fact loyal and great friends, who are willing to sacrifice their lives for their friend Snow white. And turning it into a story about a Hispanic girl, who doesn’t need people, doesn’t accept help from anyone, rejects cleaning and cooking and every other activity that women usually do (even though men do these activities as well, girl has probably never seen a dorm room) and 7 magical creatures, that are completely normal healthy humans
@@terenarosa4790maybe because snow WHITE is white - German to be specific. And she’s now Mexican snow brown with the entitled attitude to match! Wake up. Why else did she get the role? She’s clearly no disney princess.
"This isn't a passing of the torch, but a torching of the past" This is the official motto of The last ten years of movie sequels, revivals and reboots.
Seriously. Whatever happened to paying homage to the classic. For me they can make a sequel about snow whites daughter and she can do whatever the f they want, but don't touch snow white.
They're like Punks who aren't independent enough to create their own art, but are madly gleeful to take the nostalgia money and run, after vandalizing earlier works and upsetting Boomer's childhood memories, even if the show is as light as 'He-Man'.
So if it doesn’t have those things in the story, then it’s not a Snow White movie. You know what, leave this classic stories that we all love just as they are, cartoons and fairytales books.
Imagine redoing an entire film, taking out everything that made it wholesome and timeless, and turning it into a souless, mean spirited cash grab.
These people are basically evil. They want to make it appear normal so, yeah, anything good has to go so everyone degenerates into them.
You mean what Disney does to everything it touches? Seriously though, this is the perfect way to describe it. They take something people already loved as is and tear it down out of spite, relying on nostalgia to draw people in, and shouting at anyone who complains.
@@dbsommers1definitely agree. Like Mauler said, "it's not passing the torch, it's torching the past"
Soulless and mean spirited yes, but we still have to confirm how much cash it grabs.
@@elLooto lol well two out of three is still pretty bad 😅
Having the lead actress bash & trash the original classic animated film is a bold advertising move Cotton, lets see how it plays out for them.
Yeah this is big brain time
They might be trying to make money off of hate-watching
It will play out well. Look at Barbie.
@@XParasiteOctolingand cult watching from the lefties.
Marxism ✡️ She's a good goy.
Perhaps if Ms. Zegler rewatched the original, she'd notice that Snow White manages to maintain her kind, trusting nature and dignity despite the abuse she suffers at the hand of her stepmother, overcome her immense fears about being abandoned in the middle of the woods and calm herself down when her (perfectly valid) emotions get the best of her, and then not only befriend a group of men who are very different from her, but establish herself as the respected and valued authority figure among them, encouraging them to be better versions of themselves and bringing genuine joy into their lives. She doesn't demean or belittle the people around her in order to make herself appear strong; she IS strong, in a quiet, gentle way, without the audience or other characters ever having to be directly told that she is.
@@Khabibsbathtub fry.jpg
Very well said
I can tell you watched the movie
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
Reading this comment gave me very feel good chills.
As a mother who raised 2 kids all by herself since they were toddlers....I must say there is nothing wrong with a Prince Charming and I’m sick of being told how we are only strong women if we do things on our own. I’m glad we have more choices in life than previous years, but we don’t have to be alone karate chopping people to be someone.
I mean the OG Snow White is cliche and cheesy but that’s what give it it’s charm.
@@rusty7984it is stupid.
Ewho said u have to raise them alone? Wherreh exactly u hear that ? But if ppl want to raise them alone, and think about it as strong, that is their choice
Hear hear
Well said!
Let me sum up. This movie has :
- No Snow White
- No dwarves
- No prince
- No romance
Sounds promising.
At least the witch is still there... two witches actually.
Agreed. It promises to be a train wreck. Hopefully, Disney will lose $100 million or more and take the hint. I'm not sure they will though. Seems like with their losses lately they just double down.
No her eating the apple now she just touches it.
@@bdleo300yeah, a hot witch who is jealous of "Snow white's" looks.
But it does have a girl boss and that is all anyone needs in life to be happy, rich, famous, successful and universally liked....
I like how she hates that a man had to save a woman from a coma, but doesn't care that a woman put her into that coma purely out of jealousy.
I bet that in the new movie, a man vill be the villain… Anyone dare bet against me?
They already redid this movie I think it was put out by Rammstein?
I just wanted it to be about love. The recent men hating women,women hating men,made everything so toxic. That things being about love is dying 😂. I don't care who save who but I really miss the concept of " love overcomes everything"
Yes, she says that a man won't save her, yet she dreams of being the leader she knows she can be, and the one her father (a man) told her should could become if she was all those things. I mean, maybe she would have never figured it out herself without daddy telling her what she can be.
Remember, they are aiming at your children here. They are counting on young couples with young children taking them to see this moving without ever having to see or understand the original story.
@@Jedimack7*sista hood 😂
“Torching the past instead of passing the torch.”
Like Mao communists.
Welcome to 2023 that all we do here
MauLer's original quote "This isn't a passing of the torch. It's a torching of the past", but I don't know if you're referring to something else.
Many such cases...
Yes, we watched the video as well.
Snow White was already a strong women. She got away from her stepmother and she found kindness, love from 7 great friends that valued her. She was incredibly thankful so
She took care of their house for them while they were working. Strong women can be incredibly thankful and generous too! She went through hell at home still manage to find live in her heart for others. That right there says everything.
Not just strong, a leader too. That's the irony of this whole thing, Snow White is actually a pretty modern story, except for the kiss in the end. It's too iconic scene to change, but can be fixed easily by giving them a little more history than just one meeting. If their first scene shows an already mature (secret) relationship, then the kiss is fine.
Oh, and the queen is also a strong female character. Most of the plot is driven by the female characters, the males have mostly passive roles.
@@andrasbiro3007 Nothing wrong with the kiss.
@@sidnotvicious8442
Kissing the corpse of a girl he barely knows? I think there are issues with that.
It's not super bad, but it would easy to fix.
It's probably worse that they just fall in love and get married without knowing anything about each other, just because one is pretty and the other is a prince. Again, it's an easy fix, just give a few hints that they've known each other for a bit longer.
@@andrasbiro3007 If there was some girl lying there comatose, and the only way to bring them around was to have a prince kiss her gently on the lips, I think her loved ones would handle that.
@@TheDoctor394
Yes, but nobody knew at the time.
It's a bit of a weakness of the movie actually. Not just ethically, but logically too. A glass coffin is not exactly usual, it only makes sense because the plot needs the prince to kiss her long after she was declared dead.
The fact that she keeps referring to the original as just 'the cartoon' tells us all we need to know about her arrogance and ignorance.
I bet she never even saw it.
did you really think she could read? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@daviddavidsonn3578 She cannot.
For real. It was a groundbreaking new art form that holds up today and rivals modern animation.
Shut up loo
Hearing the actress openly state she refused to watch the original movie for years, demanding extra pay for dressing up, and calling the prince a stalker says everything we need to know about her and the movie she's in.
I wonder what this girl who wants to be the leader she feels entitled to be, would say if asked about female only spaces or women's sports
I don't know how is Hollywood supposed to make money off of her narcissistic way of not respecting what made the original movie legend in history.
Another man-hating feminist.
Most people would kill to get paid a few millions dollars to stand around in a dress. Yet she tries to paint it as some arduous ordeal she had to endure, so "deserves" even more money. Entitled, spoiled child.
@@alexedwards6509"TW are W!!"
It's amazing to see how the Walt Disney Company allows the talent to trash talk something that Walt Disney himself had a hand in creating.
"Talent"???
The actress dad is jewish. Here is the pattern you should be looking for for all of those actors and producers hating us
Oh, they don't care. They've been trying for years now to bury Disney himself and all he's done because it's not good for "modern" Disney, just like Marvel is doing with Stan Lee. If they could snap their fingers and change the company name just like Twitter did, they absolutely would.
@gigachad6885 Hey, don't make this discussion about someone's ethnoreligious identity. Nothing good comes from blaming "the Jews".
Walt Disney? Pah, what did *he* know. privileged white man that he was?
Come to think of it, if Disney's so deeply and utterly ashamed of everything that came before the era of fem-extremism, why don't they stop making money off these horrible, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, ableist, anti-birthing-person flicks, take them off the shelves and stop having them available on their streaming platform?
"It's not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past"....classic.
I am 69 years old. I saw Snow White in 1962. I have just watched it for the second time, after all the intervening years. It is a wonderful movie. It is a historical treasure. What Disney is doing to it is a cultural war crime.
cultural war crime lmao time to put ur dentures in codger
What are you talking about?@@thomashancock7441
@@thomashancock7441 If they could get their way, they may well want to make it vanish and solely stream the new replacement media to their vapid masses. But they can't. It's still cultural vandalism even if it doesn't quite get to the 'cultural war crime' level.
I have stated what they're doing looks like watching Germans walking out of French museums stealing art, statues and other treasures. Just ransacked like common pillaging
DISNEY'S WANT HER TO SHUT UP TERRIBLE COMPANIES,
Instead of re-examining her attitude, Rachel is already preparing her media narrative as a survivor of cyber bullying and will go on talk shows that allow her to explore her victimhood.
I can already see the movie failing and her crying about how it’s the sexist patriarchy’s fault.
@@TheKickshawsI bet she's preparing by taking notes from others on the picket line.
She's trying to compete with bree larson on who can be a bigger asshole. It's stiff competition lets see how it works out!
@@TheKickshaws Which is absurd because there clearly aren't enough horses for it to be patriarchy.
Eh, she'll be relegated to the dust bin of history in no time
Snow White in the 1937 movie IS a strong female character. She's a young girl who needs protection from an evil queen, but rather being all "woe is me, everyone save me!" And then lounging around being waited on hand and foot, she actually wants to earn her keep and help better the lives of the people who are saving her. She uses her knowledge and abilities to help those who do things for her that she can't do by herself. That's real strength, not just being able to effortlessly overcome all challenges with ease without any help.
To be fair though, for a young kid, her running through the forest is a terrifying scene.
Amazing how her desire to EARN her keep is now seen as her being taken advantage of since the dwarves didn’t first try to help her process her trauma. Well, some people process by being empowered to do the things they’re good at instead of being told no no, don’t do anything meaningful to contribute and feel a sense of value when your value is entirely in you breathing.
Who cares if she said “woe is me everyone save me“ she’s 14 she can’t do everything and we all need help sometimes but she was able to support and be grateful for those seven dwarves that did save her life and did take her and that’s what makes her a great character she’s pure.
The transformation scene is also terrifying, and I also would fast-forward it on my vhs player. But that just makes it effective and the animators deserves all the respect for it, not disdain because you as a viewer are a p*ssy.
Disney hate money
Exactly, that's it. People nowadays don't seem to know a lot of Grimm's fairy tales - Snow White is one of their spunkier heroines. In many tales, a girl will simply lie down to be killed, sacrificed or mutilated (fairy tales are not actually kiddie stories, did you know?), just because she's such a sweet and innocent girl.
When Snow White realizes the huntsman is going to kill her, she fights tooth and nail for her life - first she softens him up by crying, then she runs off into the wilderness, then she seeks shelter and finds a safe place to stay where she can put her skills to use and recover from living in a hostile home. That's a pretty good array of skills for a teenager, whether in a fairy tale or in real life.
You've so nailed it: these movies are more focused on pointing out the details of the original movies that according to the current trend can be seen as outdated than actually offering something better. In the end, all they offer is something that ends up being just self-righteous.
It's inherently self-defeating to be nothing but negative; it's fine to oppose things, but you have to have a superior alternative to offer.
The fact Zegler keeps referring to the original as a "cartoon" shows she is dripping with disdain for it. Walt took a huge leap of faith and the movie was truly groundbreaking for its time. She is trying to put Snow White on the level of a Popeye or Bugs Bunny short and that is just wrong. She's earned a permanent spot on the D-list.
Lmao we are really straying into circle-jerk territory with this one. It was an animated film, those are also called cartoons.
lets be honest does anyone even know who she is and what films she's been in. she's already a D-list actor and gal gadot is a B tier actor at best. neither can act to save their lives
Just like a shallow minded woke simpleton. . . she thinks that just because cartoons are done in animation, then all animations must therefore be cartoons.
She is such an unpleasant, ubeducated person, I feel like defending Bugs Bunny right now...
My thoughts exactly. It really irks me how she’s attempting to degrade what is considered a timeless animated movie by slapping a “cartoon” tag on it. In general, I don’t trust or socialize with people that don’t have the brain cells to appreciate and differentiate one format from the other.
"its not passing of the torch but torching of the past"
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run.
"Torching of the past" - sounds like one of the cornerstones of any totalitarian regime!
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented Disney suicidal run.
I fix this for you:
This sentence is a perfect encapsulation of modern audiences oriented left-green-woke suicidal run.
They ALL do this. Annheuser-Busch(Budlight),Target, Disney,Ford, Blizzard etc. Its not just the movie-genre its ALL of them.
"It's dated when it comes to things like women in power"....while the original movie was about women in power...the evil queen and Snow later becoming queen. The prince wasn't even the focus of the original and he had very few scenes, was barely in the movie. What are they freaking talking about? 😂😂
tbh i Wish Disney was on death bed ...
this is just so depressing to see
@@LillyMichaelson637the fact the prince is supposed to arrive and save the girl is the "disgusting idea"
leave aside the fact the dwarfs killed the evil Queen and they changed the really ending
The thing is, the old Snow White was a girl boss already. She basically took over a house of 7 men, flipped it, bossed them around a bit, made new rules (washing hands etc.) yet was still sweet and feminine.
So, a girl boss is somebody who does all your chores (and those of your six buddies) but gets you to wash your hands in a "sweetly and feminine" way.
I think you might have a wonderful future in Florida politics right now.
@@Julia-lk8jn What?? Did she do ALL the chores and make all the things the dwarves made? I highly doubt that. But I also note that you have nothing to say about her making new rules and ordering the men around. So your comment is completely one sided. In fact I think you might have a future living in San Francisco in a tent with your other political leftist cronies right now.
@@Julia-lk8jnsimp
@@Julia-lk8jndo you like the original Disney animated Snow White movie? I think it was the first oficial animated Disney movie that was not strictly a musical and it put Disney on map and its still great.
@@Julia-lk8jnIt says way more about you if THATS how you saw snow white
Your assessment of Zegler is spot on!
"Not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past." Brilliant!
How could Disney be so eager to destroy it's beloved history?
The problem with feeding a politically correct, 'Woke,' 'Monster,' is that eventually, the monster will eat you too!
It's so sad to see such an iconic animation studio bend itself to political correctness and activism ...
Ah yes, the extremely popular and realistic feminine hero character that has absolutely no flaws, overcomes absolutely no challenges and the only thing she ever had to do was believe in herself.
Mulan?
2020, I mean.
@@Julia-lk8jnuugghh!... still hurts...
Meanwhile in reality women can't even carry the cat litter in from the car
😂@@cmdrfunk
Beauty is power. She is powerless.
In the original, a woman is the heroine, a woman is also the villain. The two human male characters adore her, even the one who was supposed to kill her, and the dwarves exist to serve her, protect her, and tell her how awesome she is. You would think they would love that, and they still found something wrong with it. You go girls.
Literally!!!!
You’re describing the original as worship of the main character. Who are these people who you’d think would love that?
@@ascent8487 the two lead actresses. The people the video is about.
Nothing's enough.
Indeed. The Evil Queen is already a leader totally in touch with her own power. Did anyone notice? I guess we needed an Snow White: Evil Queen in Training film.
Snow White's strength came from her kindness. She was poor and lonely but she kept her spirit up singing and enjoying life, she had that kind of strength not many people have. Her being soft and nice was why she was so loved by everyone, even the animals. She manages to win over the huntsman, the dwarfs and everyone around. Humility is not a weakness, it can be a virtue. This actress could have learned from that.
Well said
@@donaldb.9995 Oh sorry english is not my first language, thanks for the correction
Great comment!
@@donaldb.9995 Thank you, don't worry, I got it. It was just helpful to me. As a non native english speaker I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for your comment so I appreciate it.
nowadays strong equals dictator
To me, Snow White has never been the "fairest of them all" purely based on how she looks -- her heart of gold, positivity and child-like naivete are the reasons why everyone (even animals) loves her. That's not something that the evil step mother can ever replicate, let alone overtake. Rachel Zegler does not possess any of the abovementioned qualities, and it shows -- even if she acts brilliantly. Heck, I would even say Gal Gadot feels more Snow White, and Rachel more evil step mother, age difference aside. I'm sad that another fond childhood memory is going to be butchered.
The way she conducts herself in those interviews just screams of unearned privilege and entitlement.
Almost as if she were a DAVERSIRTY HIGHER that was hired to push THA MESSEGE!
Modern women.. Always complaining about living a life of endless unearned advantages.. And their solution is always to give them more unearned advantages..
She thinks she's so intelligent and these ideas are so new and profound.
Female narcissists have to paint themselves as victims otherwise people pay more attention to victims than them. Male narcissists don't do the whole victimhood thing because it doesn't work for men - society sees nothing more pathetic than a male victim. "Man up" all the feminists would say. Male narcissists will go the other way and lie about how great they have it so they become enviable.
What's scary about the culture now is most of these women aren't born with narcissistic personality disorders. It's not in their DNA, it's just encouraged. They're being trained to be narcissists.
And dronings of an NPC
_"I was scared of the original cartoon."_ - Rachel Zegler
That says so much about her.
I mean to be fair, that scene in the forest is pretty terrifying.
But it is just a minor aspect of the film and the overall film itself is not scary.
Yes, that acting is a full of shiite profession.
Judge her all you want but when Snow White is running in the forest and all the scary faces appeared, that scared me as a kid, the whole scene where the Queen transforms herself is also scary. And the last scene when the dwarfs are chasing her and she falls to her death and the vultures look at each other and fly to eat her, my 5 year old self was shaking!
Do not believe a single word that comes out of her mouth, she is lying!
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude thanks for your permission, I shall continue to do so.
Almost everything and anything unknown scares people when they're children, it is quite redundant in saying that as an adult. If that is still her takeaway from the movie NOW, then once again, it says so much about her.
I was scared of the first ghost in chains scene in Mickey's Christmas Caroll as a kid, that certainly wouldn't be worth mentioning as an adult.
The original film is an artistic masterpiece. You could watch the entire movie on mute and still be completely absorbed by the breathtaking animation. And likewise you could listen to it with your eyes closed and have your soul touched by the music. What a legacy.
Describes what I would be doing if I had to watch this remake...with my eyes and ears shut.
I just miss hand-drawn so much. Take me back to the 90s please.
@@TheAverageGuy12 I think Kubrick might have been onto something
😆@@fulconandroadcone9488
Same with the 1940 Pinocchio. This to me, was the beginning of Disney's golden era in animation.
Snow White is a priceless piece of art that revolutionized the way animation was done. It's entirely hand drawn and colored, frame by frame. Shitting on it is like shitting on Wizard of Oz or Citizen Kane.
Any actor worth their salt would know better, but also if Disney is going in this direction, any actor worth their salt would know not take this trainwreck of a part. Disney has completely lost their roots, and I'm waiting for them to give this same treatment to Mickey Mouse himself at this point. Like turn Minney into some kind of boss babe. It's a shameless money grab that's unappealing, uncreative, and preachy to anyone outside of the Hollywood bubble. People watch entertainment to escape reality, not to have it shoved in their faces.
Remember the Mickey Mouse movie where he, Donald and Goofy were playing the Three Musketeers and Minnie and Daisy had the damsel in distress roles? With Minnie almost exacerbating the bubbly, lovey-dovey princess trope? Bet it wouldn't fly today.
@@diegodubber2140Oh no. That certainly wouldn't. TBF, no one really likes the Damsel in Distress Princess...
@@rustyshackelford4224 Yeah...
I gotta say, the original Snow White looks stunning even now, almost 90 years later. Beautiful colors, beautiful backgrounds, just beautiful all the way around. There’s a feeling of heft and weight to the animation which I believe contributes to its timelessness.
Also, if you look at photos of the attendants to the premieres of Walt Disney's features, there's quite a lot of adults in them.
it is truly sad that this level of hand drawn animation will never come back (there's several reasons for that but the most important one is that it's not a craft being taught anymore).
That style of animation will never go out of style as far as I'm concerned.
you gotta watch those disney docs form that era! so incredible what they did for the time and budget in like 1939. Its insane how impressive a huma feat it is and was. People have no idea what a risk that was, it nearly doomed Disney. They went out on a limb. It was very very very expensive, many worked without pay for overtime obviously thats animation. when people saw it theaters it was like seeing aliens. Imagine showing taht level of colour in cartoon to people who'd only seen steamboat willie if tehy were lucky. then they see all that. Its a marvelous pice of human achievement and it says a lot about us as humans imo. it was like animation's moon landing. before we did they said it was undoable.
@@carljohan9265Im really glad that unique animation is starting to come back recent years, whether it be new tmnt, spider verse franchise, the bad guys, mitchells vs machines, the last wish puss in boots over these same looking disney cgi barf fests
In the original, Snow WAS a very strong character. She persevered despite horrific loss, found help, inspired others, and even TURNED a man who was sent to kill her. The evil queen was a perfect example of the dangers of narcissism and the corruption of power. The love story was simple but very effective, the characters (all of them) had some form of arc, even if some were a bit more shallow than others. And all of it accomplished with cel animation and in 83 minutes. There is a reason that it is credited as the foundation of Disney. Like almost all remakes, this one will fall far short and, hopefully, will be quickly consigned to the dustbin of history.
that's all blah-blah-blah to Rachel Nevermind Career"
Maybe Rachael should have played the evil queen, she wouldn’t even have to act.
AND, that cell animation has more individual layers than anyone has done, including Disney, before OR since. It's a masterwork of Animation. It deserves respect for that ALONE. It took THOUSANDS of original, hand-drawn cells, from individual artists, to make Snow White... what a way to treat your Magnum Opus, Disney...
Sounds like the new Snow white is more like the evil Queen - seeking power over love.
Find me someone who can’t name all 7 dwarves and who doesn’t love them all. I’ll be here getting old while I wait.
Disney is doing a damn good job of tanking ALL of their movies before their releases. Keep it up, Disney! The great Hollywood reset is inevitable at this point, right? Please?
The sooner holiwud dies the sooner indie movies will take over.
This is the Great Reset. This is the Neo-Marxist takeover of this aspect of our culture. This is not going to stop. The trans-agenda trained people working there have been brainwashed into this for forty years and now they have power. This is just the beginning of the destruction. Think: it is everywhere - Target, Bud Lite, Nike, Victoria Secret, the M-She-U, in the schools, in our institutions. The Alphabet People Flag Parades are VICTORY Parades. Settle in for much, much more of this cultural devastation. Cheers!
nope. look into blackrock. they dont need customers anymore
@@dartdukii impossible, if indie movies were to takeover then they wouldn’t be indie anymore
The indie movies haven't lived long enough yet to become the villain. @@Deinowharf
The male characters in the original Snow White portrayed the sort of traits that we would all want for men of today. The Huntsman, commanding by the Queen to kill Snow White, instead let her live. The dwarves took her in and kept her as safe as they could. The Prince revived her from certain death with a kiss of love. Disney today sucks.
exactly
This cartoon was made 85 years ago and it's better than anything you've ever made Rachel, congratulations.
The holes on the edges of the leader of the third reel of 1937 Snow White are more interesting than that toy hole Zegler.
@@emilyadams3228she's just another Hollywood red carpet muncher.
Yep. And by 2037 all of her films will be forgotten and the 100 year old Snow White will still be a classic. The only Rachel people will remember is Rachel from Friends.
South Park's shitty cartoon is a better character than this garbage.
@@justinm2697don't forget the one from the dark knight.
“it's no longer 1937 [...], she's not gonna be dreaming about true love”
Welp. It's official ladies and gentlemen. Never thought I'd hear anyone _openly_ say that love is an outdated concept that has no place in modern world, but here we have it.
Well, if you think about it, the idea of true love suddenly appearing the save you is silly and naive. Most people have to work at it to make it work. But no harm in wishing for love.
And whats wrong with love? Or wanting love? Even if its modern, it's nice to see love, romance.
@bui3415 it's naive? Why don't people realize these are fantasy stories? True and perfect love at first sight is a fantasy that makes a nice story. That's why fairy tales go back thousands of years. I really want to understand when and why people decided they were supposed to be some kind of instruction manual for living life and therefore decided that they must be harmful. Stories are meant to be enjoyed. And the way they remove love interests from the majority of modern princess stories is not very enjoyable nor does it seem especially wise. Like remember girls, career aspirations are more important than loving relationships. That sounds healthy
My generation (30+ millennials) are already regretting the push of career over family. So many people I know worked instead of settling down to have kids, and are now discovering it is hard building relationships and having children at this stage.
You said it my friend.
I ended up having to stop talking to a girl once due to her saying "there's no such thing as love, you have to look at a relationship like a business partnership, how much will you bring to the house, what jobs have you worked," I was shook not even gonna lie, luckily for me I grew up with a sensible sister and I myself found my wife and yes Love is an actual thing
There’s something especially appalling about someone wanting to invalidate previous generation’s accomplishments, while at the same time, use those accomplishments for their own benefit. A real shameless lack of honor.
That’s Equity baby!
Awesome way to put it. Was wondering why this was bothering me so much and you hit the nail on the head
Well, it's actually a great analogy for modern-day feminism !
They want the perks of "male leadership"... But without the hard-work and duties that go with it.
Notice that female writers often times write "Mary-Sue's", who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Quite telling !
The whole social justice warriors movement in the nutshell.
Well said.
I used to be woke. I was constantly getting triggered. I protested everything that offended me, and demanded it all be cancelled. Finally I grew out of it, and went to preschool.
100 years from now, the original Snow White movie will still be viewed as one of the greatest pieces of animation ever made. The live action movie will be lucky to be a footnote.
Future person: “Wow, this movie and every classic is amazing!”
(Notices the remake)
“……… Is this a cut scene from ‘Once Upon a Time?’”
I'd be surprised if people even remember it in five years.
Snow White will be watched until man is extinct. The remake will go extinct before it gets a blu-ray release.
@@TheCapedWandererblue ray? Nah, it's straight to streaming for this pile 💩.
Yep, it'll probably a literal footnote link on the WikiMovie page for the original.
they should ask her: if she dislikes the original so much, why did she accepted this role?
Because she wants to ruin it to push how progressive she is
She thinks she’s revolutionary 😭
Cause people like her are illegitimate and will abandon their "virtues " no matter how twisted for a dollar every time.
monayyy baaaybe 😂
Lots of money.
The narcissism and hubris of youth is shining through her words. Too young to understand how wrong she is, but also old enough to have learned all the things the world wanted her to learn up until now. She has yet to challenge any of her preconceived notions and her cocktail of ignorance is strong and will last for many years. Once it wears off, she will look back on these days in horror.
If she ever becomes enlightened enough to comprehend what she did. So far she doesn’t seem to be the type to gain some self awareness along the way.
More of a female problem than a youth problem tbh.
Pride comes before the fall.
@@willer3399I’d be shocked to see any growth or self awareness
Well, by then she'll be featured in low-budget direct to streaming movies. And that's the best case scenario.
The ending of the video was epic: "You are but a passing ripple in the pond of history whereas they are history". You nail it !!!
Zegler thinks that the movie having men helping a young lady threatened by her stepmother that tries to kill her is a problem. Like, literally all the men in the movie are on Snow White's side. The hunter even sacrificed his life and dignity in order to save Snow White, because the queen stated that if he failed there would be punishment. And the dwarfs literally tried to fight the evil queen, risking their lives to avenge Snow White's "death". This proofs how perverted is the mind of a feminist.
Well said!
Snow White just wants to be the CEO of black Rock and fund Hilary to the oval office, get with the 23s people!
Men are expendable, women don't care about men's suffering.
You said it all.
Fr Hollywood seems so anti-men now that it makes even a tomboy like me disappointed. I was laughed at for saying that there are still good men because my dad did his best to save me from my abusive mom. My bf of 5 years now was also the first to make me feel unconditional love, allowing me to do whatever I wanted without judgement. I could be all hormonal during my period and say I want to "kill" him to his face (ofc I don't mean it), and he wouldn't budge.
"It's not a passing of the torch but a torching of the past" is such an inspired quote I'd be surprised if it doesn't catch on as a legit literary quote in future.
it put a hole in my brain too mate. skills
Let the past die kill it if you have to 🤖
The best original quote I've heard in a long while...
Great quote.
Also just noticing the profile pic, if youre a performing artist like me, keep fighting the good fight and bringin the real stuff directly to the people. I wont let culture die im going to keep growing it ✊
Of course she calls it stalking because she thinks social media/phones/tinder has existed since the dawn of time. They had no other way of staying in touch. I doubt she even knows how to send a letter.
Or even write with a pen.
Last year, I literally had to teach a summer intern how to send a letter. She was fresh out of high school and had never in her life sent anything through the mail. She couldn't even figure out how to fold the paper to fit in the envelope without being shown how. That's a failure to learn geometry to any useful degree, not merely being unfamiliar with "analog" technology. I've never been so saddened by the experiential gap between my generation an the ones coming up behind me - before or since.
How do you stalk someone who's in a coma? 🙄
"It's not passing the torch, it's torching of the past"
Thanks, made my day.
_”Now I am become woke, destroyer of franchises.”_
- Rachel Zegler
I really like this quote lol
This quote has been adapted for...
*MODERN AUDIENCES*
lol
Men are getting tired of being bashed. I hope this ends her short career, and she never gets hired again.
@@Noctazar
And to reflect our current world.
I think Tangled was the last truly great Disney fairy tale adaptation.
It made changes to the original story so that it wasn’t just a copy + paste, but they also left a lot of the elements that were crucial to its identity in.
It had a female protagonist who could fight for herself, but understood that sometimes she needed help too. More specifically, if it weren’t for someone else’s efforts, she would’ve willingly stayed locked up in the tower, a prisoner of her illegitimate mother forever.
The male character actually had character along with a redemption arc, despite being secondary to the story. He also served as comic relief most of the time on top of all this. Most secondary characters these days are doomed to have only one defining quality, which doesn’t really change throughout the story. He also actually has a motivation to follow the protagonist around and into danger rather than just because he really, really likes her.
The antagonist was also female, but she wasn’t all powerful, unlike a lot of modern female characters. She realized physical strength wasn’t her forte, so she relied more on her wit and manipulative tendencies to achieve her goals.
In other words, all of the characters felt believable, to an extent, because they all had strengths and weaknesses. But more importantly, they *recognized* those, and used them to their advantage. The characters actually *used* their brains instead of relying on one character to be the smarts while the rest are just meat-heads waiting to be defeated.
What I don’t understand is why Disney fails to grasp this concept. No-one hates female protagonists or antagonists. We just hate the ones that don’t feel like actual people. It’s a mark of lazy writing, and we feel ripped-off by it.
Agreed!
Tangled was a stellar adaptation, and I love seeing people appreciate that.
If you haven't, you should read the Wheel of Time series. The balance of the sexes is amazing.
Tangled was made to be fun.
Fun is missing from all modern kids films.
not only that but it also adapted and pushed the boundaries in animation techniques, you know what disney is known for!, rather than just shove a camera at a pretty face
Snow White is one of the greatest works of art in history. Imagine dismissing it as some '80 year old cartoon'. Way to destroy your own legacy Disney.
Without the success of the original Snow White, the actress playing her in the remake wouldn't be as famous as she is now. Ironic
It's not even Snow White anymore.
It's not THEIR legacy. Neither they nor their culture created the original.
Might as well call the film what it is: Snow brown and the 7 California baristas
'greatest works of art in history' Now now... let's keep it in the category of animated films or maybe limit the category to 20th century (even then, there is so much more greater art out there - at least in Europe)
The original Snow White was a Strong female character. She was kind, thoughtful, industrious, idealistic but practical. She was a character of a person you would want to meet in real life. She doesn't deserve mockery and neither does her prince who rescued her from a coma. The dwarfs were hard working, good hearted and open minded. They learned lessons and grew into better versions of themselves. The movie was celebrated because the characters were wonderful.
“It’s not a passing of the torch, it’s a torching of the past” was so immaculately said. It had chiasmus, vivid imagery, and a sharp message packed into just one sentence.
All hail MauLer!
Revolution is only possible when you've convinced enough people that the old ways that got them where they are, are actually the problem.
The communists in Vietnam and China expressly destroyed and rewrote their own history, otherwise they would never have succeeded. Thankfully enough survived where it wasn't all lost, but much of it was.
I honestly love this guy’s use of metaphors.
That sums it all up
He's not the first person to say it you know.
I can’t believe that a Disney film would tank its film by pushing THE MESSAGE and alienating any fan base that it could’ve built to pander to people who won’t watch it
And the truth shall set you free!
And we’re supposed to be sad about the writers strike?
I like how funny this reply is. It's brilliant
They are trying to create a cold civil war
@@ftrwrwbg Good riddance lol. Hopefully the strike purges every last one of these woke fools
A message to all those “strong female characters”. In movies. And real life. If you need to tell someone you’re a “strong female character”? You’re not one.
So true a REAL WOMAN doesn't need to prove anything to appease this modern way of thinking, it must be so confusing for them to be part of the new world order that they don't need a man etc there's nothing wrong with dreaming a prince will ride up on his noble steed and sweep you off your feet especially for young girls , just seems the agenda these days is not allow children to be children
Facts
Pure facts
Someone asked her about the story and she told them. Let’s not take things out of context.
Yep!
This is "How to end your career before it even starts."
Rachel Zegler says it all: The reason why all of those remakes turn into franchise killing flops is not that the audiences don‘t like these characters, movies and series anymore. The reason is that the people who are running these shows nowadays don‘t like them. So one reason is Rachel Zegler, another Kathleen Kennedy.
I don't plan on supporting this movie.
The current crop of creators see past works as a platform to prop up their own ‘superior’ versions, relying on brand recognition and existing fans to support their works. But as past works have shown, fans do not appreciate people butchering their favourites for their own egos.
To me it seems Kathleen is doing what is expected out of her. Hence not fired even after multiple duds.
Its the higher execs that need to change. The ones that convince investors with shiny presentation to get their money.
What’s more insulting about Rachel’s opinion of Snow White is that millions of women who love Snow White would take the role in a heartbeat, and she’s just acting if it’s a chore. She should be grateful she’s not only being payed to do this, but now she’s the face of Disney’s very first film in a century. Young girls aspire to become their Disney princesses and Rachel has gaslit everyone to think being kind and gentle is weak. Kindness is strong in so many ways.
Paid* Also, brainwashing doesn't equal gaslighting. Gaslighting means trying to convincing someone they are crazy or to at least question their sanity. An actual example of gaslighting:
Person A does something in front of Person B.
Person B: Hey, why'd you do that?
Person A: Do what? You're imagining things.
Person B: No, I'm not.
Person A: You sure about that? Maybe you should see a psychiatrist.
Person B: Maybe you're right . . .
No hate meant, I just see people misuse words all the time.
And she's been in what...2-3 movies so far? Ol girl got a big head for such a noob in the industry. The entitlement is insane in this chick
@@soni7949 power corrupts all, as they say!
Entitlement is in her blood.
@@blaxpoitation8528I guess Disney just wanted someone young, arrogant, and idealistic who could be kept up to speed with all their agendas…
Rachel Zegler is the poisoned apple of this movie, it’s quite hilarious really.
i literally pictured her as an apple😂
i literally pictured her as an apple😂
I wouldn't mind eating that apple... alright I'mma headout.
I bet there are much prettier girls of "her ethnic demographic" out there...
@@SammEaterI mean, shed prolly like to eat you too, just more like a black widow or a praying mantis does
Snow White’s strength comes through with her resiliency in the face of unimaginable hardship/abuse. If they wanted to create a modern version which focused on her as a strong character who resists the forces of evil they could have written a story about the Evil Queen spending her whole life trying get rid of Snow’s kindness.
I feel like so many people would resonate with society/abusive households trying to change them. Seeing an inspiring character hold on could give many people in bad situations hope.
Like one wise UA-camr said: "you are not stupid because you are a woman. You are stupid because you are stupid". Those words are easily applicable to Rachel Zegler.
+1
“I don’t distrust you because you’re a woman. I distrust you because you’re not as smart as you think you are.”
-Tywin Lannister
Dr Shaym?
Don't you miss the days when a cool, liberated frontwoman could sing a song titled 'stupid girl' and trust the audience and media to be sufficiently mature and discriminating to know how it was meant, and would never dream of having to even 'clarify', let alone hand-wring or apologize?
@@jamesthecat Holy crap yes, this. Garbage did a great job with songs like "Stupid Girl", "Queerest of the Queer", "Vow" and "Not My Idea".
The original Snow White is honestly a very admirable character. She expects nothing for free, she works hard, she faces an uncertain future with optimism and singing, and she is kind and gentle and always believes better days are coming. Many of her qualities were exactly what Great Depression audiences wanted and needed to see. And I would say we need to see it today too. But today, our society is unable to recognize strength unless it comes in the form of killing bad guys and leading armies into battle. How sad.
I think most, or at least a good portion, of society are still completely normal and can recognize it. It seems like the ones pushing the agenda that are the problem, not the general public. EVERY video I've seen covering liberal nonsense the comment section is 95% opposed to it.
That's why they hate her
She also gets raped in the very old version. I do admire that kind of passiveness in women, I mean she was in a coma, but still! The new one will never be able to live up 2 that.
@@Babyblue115OH GOOD GAWED!!
she does not!
@madhurgupta854omg, no don't you know.that.most fairy tales's original version are pretty brutal? They are meant to be cautionary tales, like what young girls shouldn't do. Those days don't have the filter modern-day people have.
She is right, It is no longer 1937, when Disney made good movies, it is 2023 when Disney makes garbage.
Well said!
Woke garbage!
We are living in a world where Hollywood produces garbage and wants us to see it as gold, and want us to see gold as garbage
Hey you know, it's not 1937, why should I act well? 😂😂
The original film was made in 1937 but the story takes place in the 1500s. Why does Disney not see how out of place it is to put a story of women's empowerment into a film that took place in the 1500's? Maybe we can do a story on Abraham Lincoln as well and have Boot assassinated him with a high powered rifle instead.Why does all of Disney's films seem to not understand context?
German girl here!
In preschool in Halloween (named different here) I always went as Snow White, with the yellow-blue dress my mum made herself.
It is a beautiful, mid-European Fairytale and she's insulting our culture.
So sad man, so sad ... everyone wants a better world and keeping on fighting fire with fire...
"...It's an 85-year old movie..." Yes dear it is. It's an 85-year old movie that literally changed the face of modern film and shook up the studio system forever.
I can't believe this stupid brat was allowed to be in a movie. Without Snow White, regardless what you think of it, NOTHING would have come afterwards. It's THE movie which changed the industry.
Well said.
Highest grossing movie of all time till 1973. ie more than 30 years.
Also..the design of snow white the way they did the face was the inspiration for the exaggerated art style that became modern day anime
I’m fairly certain it was a desperate move as well from the, at the time, “toddler” studio since they were having money issues or something like that at the moment. The beautiful and horrifying thing about desperation is that sometimes the most wonderful things happen when you’re left with no choice but to either rage against the dying light or go softly into that silent night.
Whats weird to me is that you'd think disney would treat snow white with a certain level of reverence. It is the reason the company got off the ground after all.
But it doesn't represent the trendy values of today. I mean.. it has dwarves... a female lead who doesn't punch a white man in the face even once... and a dashing prince who is clearly not meeting the required example of today's Weak Managed Male. No wonder they want to erase it from history.. imagine if the teens of today actually watched it. They'd be SO confused about why a man was necessary to help the Strong White Female... it doesn't make sense....
Disney doesnt exist anymore
These people are just using its name as a way to ruin the world
They totally dump and piss on the foundation and builders that gave them their shoulders to stand on.
That shows how far they have fallen. And they have fallen far.
The people that run Disney now hate ol' Walt and everything he stood for, and so it's not surprising they wouldn't respect what he created. And he knew who they were and called them out a few times, rumor has it.
WTF is wrong with her dreaming about love?! I'm a woman, btw. I'm so tired of the narrative that women have to be "strong and independent" and can't fall in love. Women can be strong and still fall in love. They can still be strong and yet rely on a man sometimes. I hate this new narrative being pushed.
Yes, we'll said. I've often thought how pandering it is to tell women they are wrong to want to indulge in old fashioned romance tropes. It's funny too that nobody sees that the rescue fantasy goes both ways typically. Usually the male character is struggling to find a truly good women. They are men of high social standing who are fed up with the inauthenticity of their surroundings and a lack of purpose. Typically it's about finding someone who will help them to be fair and just and keep them grounded. The idea being, without purpose and guidance, they know they would become cruel and resentful.
It's really a two way hero fantasy. Both are "damsels in distress" until they rescue each other.
Cheesy, but timeless...
The women screaming about how love is weakness and how all women have to be strong and independent...are the ones that will be found half-eaten by their 42 cats.
It encourages harmful ideas like heteronormativity and raising a family - or god forbid - motherhood. We dont want little girls getting crazy ideas like that.
Because "falling in love" means "needing someone else" and in their mind it means that she is "weak". It is insane
@@PolarizedMechs 🤣
You make some good points, and the upcoming "strong female character" Snow White does sound completely awful. But even OG Snow White isn't timeless. It's just excellent and for that reason, much more enduring than other works. But let's not forget the 1937 film was itself a "modernized" reworking of much older source material, changed in ways that the producers thought 1937 audiences would approve of (e.g. the Queen was SW's biological mother; she's downgraded to step-mother, which is more palette-able; Grimm's Queen was cannibalistic; "wake her with a kiss" never happened in the Grimm OG, it was invented entirely.) So bits of 1937 SW do feel a bit dated, and that's OK, it's still a masterpiece we can enjoy.
No one cares for Snow White though...
"This isn't a passing of the torch; it's a torching of the past" is one of MauLer's best quotes ever. It's not a funny quote, but it just so accurately sums up the state of modern entertainment that it belongs in the history books that will written about this era of storytelling.
It's a Marxist/Maoist concept, and it's happening not just in entertainment. It is more widespread as you see AB InBev (Bud Lite) and other corporations stepping in it as they purposely tear down their past to make way for their "brave new world".
I'd say this is accurate if Disney had torched all copies of the original but nope, we can all still easily watch it whenever we want.
@@StinkyBuster they don't mean Disney literally lit their catalog on fire.
Y'know what, MauLer needs to be featured in Drinkers videos.
(Feat. MauLer)
Disney literally said it plans on not making any new physical releases and controls the main source where you can watch the movie without a physical copy. If they wanted, they could make it disappear as easily as they did with Song of the South.
God forbid a girl falls in love in a movie. What's wrong with finding happiness these days?
Well..
a) Because love means you need someone else, and that's a big no-no for modern feminists
b) Because strong family ties is bad for authoritarian governements => Someone might not rebel to save himself, but he/she might do it to save their child or parent.
In short, the more miserable and alone you are, the better docile consumer you become.
no fr like a feminist movie these days is no feminist movie if there is a romance, she could get a man if she wants to & that’s ok 😭😭
@@roviize9425… except Yennefer and Geralt are in love but Witcher still shitted on for being feminist.
@@goofygrandlouis6296what’s also bad for authoritarian governments are people who defy tradition in general for both ideals of individualism and common wealth.
Girls aren’t allowed to fall in love anymore, become a mother, a wife, a homemaker, a creator of the next generation. They all have to grow up to become self absorbed childless girl boss spinsters. Well according to Disney that is.
I think Rachel Zeglar has done us all an unintentional favor by warning us all how bad that movie is. We won’t make the mistake of seeing that train wreck.
Anybody could tell its gonna be crap from the pictures of the magical creatures.
Not only that all the cgi/love actions have sucked
Indeed. I can’t wait to miss this one.
They did pretty well with Beauty and the Beast as well as Cinderella, in my opinion. It still felt like the original animated versions for the most part.
I mean we don't really need her to tell us that Disney don't know how to make good movies anymore, right now we can really ignore EACH movie they release. But yeah, she's confirming all that with what she says...it's crazy how 100 years later today's "Disney" is as far away from (Walt) Disney and those movies as it can get. oO
That doesn’t matter, it’s still going to be watched by people and influence the future into that direction. The general audience needs to see how terrible this is going to be BEFORE they buy movie tickets
Imagine being a 90 pound woman and thinking you are strong and independent.
It took a bunch of 170-230lb men to build your house, you aren't even strong enough to pick up a 2x4x8.
Lmao the fact that the actress for Snow Fucking White, that super minor and unimportant character in The Story of Snow White, said she only watched the original ONCE and didn’t like it is just….perfect. Her obvious disdain for the source material, her unapologetic arrogance in clearly believing that what they’ve produced is superior; I couldn’t think of a better way to encapsulate the genuine hatred and unbridled loathing that Hollywood feels for their audiences.
She should get together with the writers from The Witcher, with their combined disdain for the source material for their own projects they would get along famously.
Really? Where did she say that?
@@monal3544she was scared and just watched it once, is wgat she really said 1:17
But if you see her other comments... it's obvious she didn't like it.
Should have been called - Brown Snow Flake
The irony is that Disney’s new age heroines are beginning to act and sound like the villains of the story itself. And they seriously expect us to believe Gal Gadot to be jealous of her looks?
😂😂😂
Like Julia Roberts & lily collins or charlize theron & Kristen stewart
Really??
Lol, but I have to say Lily Collins is a class act by all appearances and seems to be worthy of representing a Disney Princess. Emma Watson “Hermione” gave some misguided feminist soapbox speeches, but still seems grounded and likable. Rachel, on the other hand? Wowww, holy sh*t. Dumping on the original movie like it’s r@cist or something?? What a spoiled generation!
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@@robertweekes5783 true, but I'm only referring of how they look, IMO Julia, Charlize and of course Gal Gadot are beautiful women and the girls... meh
85 years ago doesn’t mean “exactly dated” it means “timeless Classic” Snow White is a German fairytale from the 1500s WTF it wasn’t “dated” in 1937 despite being 400+ years old…. It was “timeless Classic” still is!
But stories get improved over time. Society progresses and stories need to be updated over time to reflect that. You wouldn't want to wear a dress made in 1937.
As Shakespeare said, "Stories are like apps. You need the latest updates."
@@Myndir key word in your argument is "improved" we all agree with you sadly they are missing the improvement part xD
I did not know that.
While the tale probably has origins in European literature from the early modern age the version we know as Snow White was written down by the brothers grimm in 1812 and edited in the 1850's to be more child friendly.
@@51turlough I don't agree at all, y'all are just pathetic whiners.
“You suck, and I’m Iconic,” said the Pet Rock to the folding pocket knife. “Hahahahaha Right!” Say I.
“They weren’t written for modern audiences, they were written for EVERY audience.”
That line needs to somehow find its way into be repeated everywhere
MODERN (FEMA-NAZI) AUDIENCES!!!
Oh fuck no, I don’t want to watch any movie that have to conform to fucking Christopher Columbus’s sensibility and value
🎉
I don't consider myself as modern too, I consider myself a social conservative and I want traditional values, not "mOdErN" ones.
Just watching Gal Gadot's face, knowing that Zegler is going off script way too much, but trying to keep composure. Has me in stitches every time.
Gal is thinking what we are ALL thinking when Sh!te Br0wn speaks
I'm genuinely surprised they aren't renaming it Snow Brown. That's more woke no?
There is no script here.
She's speaking her mind.
You can see in one part of that interview gal doesn't like her. When gal is silent and looks away thinking shit.
Both of them hay hay people, if she really thinks different she can say something
Walt Disney started his movie career with Snow White the first featured film and Rachel ended hers with her own words.
Any remake of a beloved classic film without a loving and caring approach met with a wise and knowledgable leadership should always end in failure.
Rachel: I hate Snow White.
Disney: Would you like to play Snow White?
Rachel: Oh, YES PLEASE!
$$$$
She never said please in her whole life😂
That black Ariel was something else, but I don't remember her publicly burying the original.
This Rachel girl is an obnoxious twat.
It probably went more like :
Rachel : I hate Snow White
Disney : Do you like money?
Rachel : Yes
I gotta know where that "Shite, shite, shite" scene was from that looks hilarious. This seemed like the best high like to low comment ratio to get me the best chance of an answer. Don't let me down
I always figured that how gentle, sensitive and humble Snow White was, was one of the reasons she was "fairer" than the queen. I don't think this actress will be able to convince the audience that she posesses those virtues.
100%
Maybe she’ll make out with another girl. That can be her virtue.
it actually amazes me the dumbfounded look people get when you suggest "Fair" isn't about their looks. but their character
Fair point.
I don't think that's the point of the movie lol. But when you are so deeply entrenched in your gender essentialism, biases and gender norms ofc a woman who speaks her mind is seen as not so humble, a man who does that = an alpha, oh the double standards.
Snow White was the world's first ever full length animated feature and Walt Disney was rightfully very proud of it. So I'm sad they are allowing her to mock it like she is.
It came close to ruining Disney, and it was on the edge of being scrapped, but Walt's own determination and perseverance pushed it across the line.
Mocking: rewriting it where snow white is a leader and not just a bystander.
@@Babyblue115the point of the og story is not about snow white being a leader. its about preserverance and keep being kind through hard times, about dreaming of true love and meeting them. Snow white by no mean a bystander lol she preserve, survive, and still take care those around her even she herself is going through abuse. If they wanna make a movie about leadership make a new fairytale or movie, dont change/ruin a classic that have been loved by many.
Don't worry, it will be forgotten by next year
@@yukishakurawell said
Says the original snow white is extremely dated when it comes to women in power yet the villain is an all powerful queen who does magic. Didn't realize the queen was actually a man
Snow White was once considered such a sacred movie by the Walt Disney Company that it was the last movie to receive a home video release. The attitudes of the executives (Roy Disney and his allies) who resisted it was that Snow White was so iconic as a landmark moment in the history of not just animated cinema but ALL cinema that the very act of plugging it into a VCR as just another mindless product to be consumed was antithesis to everything Walt created it to be - a legitimization of the art form of animation.
They believed Snow White had to be properly enjoyed as an artistic masterpiece, in a theater, with the right frame of mind.
Of course this view wasn't going to hold out forever against the money left on the table or the inevitable antiquated feel of the movie compared to masterpieces of the Disney Renaissance which perfected the techniques Snow White first attempted.
But hearing the things people involved in a Snow White remake are saying about the movie that literally made the Walt Disney Company what it is... I just don't know what they expect to happen next.
With regard to the home video thing, I remember my grandpa buying that for us and coming over all excited and telling us that now WE could see the first film he and his brothers had watched in a theatre as children. I can still picture, in my mind, my brothers and I sitting with him and grandma and my parents and Snow White playing on the TV.
If this flops, Disney should can all of their future remakes effective immediately. I heard they canceled The Hunchback of Notre Dame remake, which is good, but the ones still in the wings should be done away with, too.
The animated "One that Started it All" should be the live-action "One that Stopped it All". By that, end the remakes, not the animated films.
Its kind of smoothbrained to s**t on the movie that made Disney the animation giant. Without Snow White, she wouldn't be directing a woke film that s**ts on Snow White.
I wanted to get a hard copy of this before they pulled something like this crap.
Snow White was already empowering and independent. The Dwarfs saved her and in turn she helped take care of them and showed them kindness and love. Not every female character needs to be this towering girl boss that doesn't need a man in order to be looked at as "strong". That shit feels like it's everywhere now.
Wrong. She showed them kindness and care first, and THEN they saved her. The message that you shouldn’t need to be a good person is more important than ever in a time where there’s been so much emphasis on “now owing anyone a smile.” What that phrase means is no one owes it to anyone else to be civil and kind because that somehow takes more energy than people have. If you don’t have the energy to be civil and kind, then you’re a lazy asshole who feels power in being mean. Make civil and kind your default, and it’s being mean that will take energy.
@@NoelleTakestheSkyand now in english please? I require just a comprehensive message, not rambling.
@@secretname2670Be nice or snow white becomes snow man
@@Luke-zj6ge don't strawman your way out of this. I require some writing skills from someone who writes.
If that doesn't align with your ideals then maybe you should change those to something more utilitarian, in attempt to let wisdom finally catch up to you, though judging by your style, you've always been faster.
@@secretname2670 I bet you're fun at parties.
There already is a strong female character in the original story... The evil Queen! She doesn't want love, she just wants to be the leader she knows she can be. And she certainly isn't rescued by a prince. She is just trying to get rid of the little upstart. 😂
The Evil Queen is the original girlboss.
Can't believe this isn't a bigger talking point, it literally directly counters Rachel's notions that the film's "dated" for lacking strong female characters! The fact that it took a literal intervention from the sky to stop her speaks to her power in and of itself. It's a far more effective testament of power than whatever 'modern' ideas of boring infallibility and unlikeable characterisations most modern Hollywood writers seem to be cultishly churning out these days.
Yes. The most chilling part of the film is where she kicks the bucket at a skeleton that one can only presume belonged to the previous king, going, "Thirsty?".
And ironically, it is her own hubris and envy that end up destroying her...
Don't give them ideas haha @@cmc5394oparva
snow white is like many old disney princesses a good nice loving caring women. She gives us the example of compassion, responding to hate by love. This is true strength, compared to this arrogant behaviour we want to teach girls nowadays
Geez her facial expressions when she talks actually says more about her than the words she speaks. She truly does believe shes of greater intelligence than anyone around her
As expected from a Jew.
I would expect no less from a young girl that's discovered the internet and feminism all on the same afternoon.
Colombian but prolly part jew
Fs should Please stop parasiting. Make your own. No one stopped you. No one oppressed you. No one ever did. It is you who couldn't do it. Stop barging into established male spaces then shriek on about how you are the victim when we are in the same room to get this favor and that. Stop welfare and affirmative action.
Metoo, gender paygab, glass ceiling, Period vacation. Do all you want on your own space instead of nagging at men to do it for you. Welfare yourselves with your own taxes only. Gender segregation just like the old days.
You can only have rights to the level of responsibility you take. Otherwise it is parasitism and you end up leeching at others who are responsible.
She is no different than any millenial and zoomer i have ever met, when it comes to history and western popular culture. I just hope that they would shut their pieholes about anything that was created before the year 2000.
*"It's not a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past."*
Mauler really nailed it!
And in less than 4 hours!
And the torching of their box office numbers!
I loved that line by him
As an artist and illustrator it is especially painful to hear people completely dismiss the pioneering, groundbreaking and brilliant achievements of generations before us. The talents and ingenuity of those involved in creating the original Snow White is staggering. This person couldn’t tell you the first basic rules of hand drawn cel animation let alone have the patience and fortitude to draw or paint thousands of key frames, in-betweens, backgrounds or any other tedious shit job that even brilliant seasoned veterans were tasked to do. Just more proof that microphones in front of people’s faces can have adverse effects and make them stupid.
But don't you understand? She had to wear a dress!!!
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I'm watching this after 2024's D23 and this critique not only summarizes the problems with the film, but the company's creative trajectory in general. They can't see the forest for the trees.
It is a travesty to consider what a live action Snow White could have looked like in the hands of people who actually loved the story. Heck, Cinderella (2015) was beautifully done, so it is heartbreaking to see so many beloved stories get flushed down the drain.
Kenneth Branagh did a great job with Cinderella and it's all been downhill from there...
It's good these suck and are failing, perhaps Disney will invest into making new stories. Instead of you know, remaking old ones, but worse.
Plus live action as a medium is over valued, animation wins on every metric except for low budget indie dramas.
@StimParavane he really did. The story was built upon in a way that was heartwarming, the cast was incredible, and every detail in the filmmaking was gorgeous.
There’s no such thing as a good live action disney movie.
Anyone can make a Snow White movie. The story was created by the brothers Grimm in the early 1800's and is in the public domain. We just cant use anything that is distinct to Disney's version of the story they published in the 1930's such as the distinctive dress snow white wears in that movie. It also couldn't be called, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs"
As someone who was obsessed with Snow White as a child. (Seriously, I had about eight different versions in book form and about six on video!)
Rachel lacks the most fundamental point of the story and the majority of fairytales....
The Prince is the Reward not the saviour. Snow White is the hero of the story. She's the one who escapes and carves out a life for herself. She could have lain down and waited to be rescued but she didn't! She rolls up her sleeves and gets things done. This spoilt princess who never dirtied her hands on anything before. (The Disney film was a pioneer in coloured animation so they had to do a quick visual to convey the Queen hating Snow White. Hence the Cinderella start which is in no other version.)
Okay, she gets tricked about 3 times but what do you expect from a sheltered naive 14 year old!
I'm getting really sick of female characters only being considered strong if they kick arse and "rescue themselves."
People and situations can't always be punched away or "Girl bossed" through. There are many different types of strength in the world (Which the old Disney cartoons absolutely covered. The female characters aren't wilting wallflowers!
It's actually the very opposite of inclusive!
Snow white inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging...
@@monotech20.14Are you a bot? I saw you comment this exact phase in other comment threads.
poor kids nowadays 😢
@@monotech20.14Who said anything about skin color?
Wow, my (mild) comment in this thread was immediately deleted. Censorship at work.
As a young girl, growing up with a narcissist mother and a rather emotionally absent and tyrannical father, Snow White and Cinderella gave me so much hope and resilience to look up to!
There is nothing more powerful than to preserve your kind and honest nature, your cheerful and loving heart, in the face of adversity! Snow White isn’t a „dumb damsel in distress“ - she survives years and years of trauma, losing her parents, being neglected and psychologically abused by her step mother, growing up in isolation, finding out she was supposed to be murdered and fleeing the next second with nothing but the clothes she‘s wearing, facing homelessness and befriending little people she‘s never met before, treating them like the family she never had.
Snow White is a tale of the strength it takes to keep your head up high, even in the most dire circumstances. It’s a tale of the friendships that will save us even if our own family is trying to destroy us. It‘s a tale about our inner bond with nature and how we can always turn towards it’s grace and the virtue of it‘s creations to guard and to guide us, to bring us joy and keep us company. (Snow White‘s bond with the animals.) As a child the astounding thing to me never was and never has been the fact that the prince kissed her back to life - it was the fact that she didn’t die long before that. The fact that she never gave up. And who are these people to judge a young girl‘s wish to find a love, deeper than any pain she has ever suffered? Isn’t that what we all hope for? I know it‘s what I hoped for as a teenager. The thought of one day meeting somebody who would love me for who I am and creating a family of our own kept me going through nearly two decades of childhood abuse. And I still love to be alive, I still randomly sing around the house - especially while cleaning - and I highly doubt this new version of the movie has to offer any true virtue but only the signaling of it.
I really like your comment. It made me sad though. You have had a tough life ☹️ I also grew up with a narcissist mother and an absent faher and that has given me scars for life. Even if I am 52 year old man now with a wonderful family of my own, the experience from my child hood is still like a wound that never stops bleeding. I hope your life is much better now. ❤
I’m right there with you with both of you. I to have had the same dynamic, and my life was very rough. I’ve had to teach myself everything I know. Luckily I have my own little family now, and I can see both of you have made something out of nothing. Both of you have a wonderful day ❤️
I truly hope your life got better. Your commment gave me a flood of various emotions
i'm so glad someone feels the same way abt the 2 movies they've helped me too.
Indeed ! Resilience is the source of genuine power. The "Hero's journey".
And feminists don't understand that. They want the social status of men.. but without the drive and responsabilities.
Which is why they always write "Mary-Sue" characters, who have everything handed to them, without actually being tried. Like Cpt. Marvel. 👎
"This isn't a passing of the torch. It's a torching of the past" that's a great way of putting it.
I still remember the times when Snow White and fairy tales in general were about friendship and people having fun, and not about power struggles over leadership.
They've managed to suck all the fun and joy out of these stories.
"Suck out the fun and joy" should be Disney's tagline at this point. It's all so bitter, bleak, weak, anti-humanist.
Or "Having fun is racist and patriarchal" "Fun is just what white-straight-cis males enjoy!" Ban entertainment altogether to fight the patriarchy! 🤪
I can imagen the dwarfs letting her die, because they don't like feminists. And the audience will be thrilled 100%. That's a 180 flip.
Zeglers Snow White sounds like fanfiction and she’ll look like a teenager in cosplay - which isn’t a good for someone born in 2001. But she’s a stereotypical Gen Z so 😂.
Idgaf about her skin color. I care that she embodies the literal opposite of what Snow White’s character is. She sneers at traditional femininity, which tells me she’s not really a feminist at all; she’s a faux feminist.
Snow White is a teenage girl that wants to escape an abusive environment and live in peace with her future love. She’s brave af because the huntsman gave her an opportunity to escape, and she took it. She carved out her own life. That’s a huge thing for an abuse victim.
In snow white, the original version, the evil witch was forced to dance in red-hot iron shoes until she died. Fairy tales are not nice, they are warnings for children. But Disney left everything out he didn't like, it was for american kids. He kept more or less to the original story and made a fortune. Now the wokies throw out everything else and just steal the name to push their fascist ideas on everybody. And insult all europeans while they are at it. Same with Cleopatra and the Little mermaid, pissing on our heritage and stealing it, then blackwashing it .
The problem is she focused on the negative. Every interview she says how awful the old movie was, not considering people who likes the old movie. She should focus on the positive thing in the new movie without roasting old one. Plus in the Old movie the prince saving her is just a detail, she managed to escape the hunter killing her, she manager to survive on her own, she managed to live with the Seven dwarfs and make them admire her, she also helped them and worked in order to be accepted there. That sounds pretty badass and independent woman to me, while still being feminine.
Really she didn’t even escape the huntsman, the huntsman spared her because she was a kind soul. When she found the dwarves’ cottage she says to the animals that led her there she can offer to cook and clean for them in exchange for shelter and she made good on her offer. Out of all the dwarves Grumpy was the last one to warm up to her but he was the one leading the chase after the queen, even when they knew what the queen was capable of. They even tried to kick Snow out because they feared the queen’s wrath, but thanks to Snow’s caring and kind personality they overcame their fear. Finally one detail I find gets overlooked is that for most of her life Snow was treated as a housemaid, even her stepmother the queen. Yet she remained the cheerful, romantic girl she is throughout the movie.
Seriously, if you have seen the movie and have two brain cells you realize it isn't all about Prince Charming, he does the magic kiss thing at the end and happily ever after, but the interest of the movie lies in Snow White and the dwarves and the stepmother. That the story is framed by her love interest is important as a framework but it doesn't determine the characters and what's interesting and compelling about them. It's just story illiteracy to think that way.
@@josephzepeda7608 exactly
Disney didn’t write the story, this is an old fairytale from the 1600’s or so. Yes Disney’s movie was a classic retelling of a very old story. It’s not up to anyone to decide this classic tale needs changing. And as usual, why? If you want a medieval tale of a strong and powerful princess, then write you one! And quit pretending this has anything to do with Snow White
She also says "we wrote a movie" as if she had anything to do with writing a damn thing. She's an adult pretender.
I used to be a grip (for those who don't know, grips are production crew members). I wonder if she would support giving residuals to the people who don't just "stand in a dress for 18 hours". Everyone else on set is actually doing something while she just stands/sits there and waits for the next shot. The amount of running around as a crew member is insane. But yeah, she deserves even more money because she had to stand in a dress
Fame brings fortune. Anonymity doesn't pay. That's why an NBA star brings in more in a year than the gym teacher who taught him to play makes in a lifetime. ='[.]'=
I don't think it can be understated how much work and how many hours the crew puts in when they're shooting a film. Truly the unsung heroes
Exactly. Or how about her stand in who REALLY has to stand around in that outfit for hours at a clip! The job description is in the bloody title!!
I think it's sad and funny how people who have to stand around 8 hours a day in the dress at Disney world will never make as much in their whole life as this girl is getting for "18 hours in a dress".
The millions of dollars she'll get paid to be the star of a Disney movie are already more money than most people will make in their whole lives. But this spoiled brat wants more.
“You are but a passing ripple in the pond of history, whereas they ARE history.”
Can you imagine taking a beautiful story about Snow White - the fairest of them all, kind soul, who doesn’t judge, is so open hearted, that even a killer doesn’t have the heart to kill her - and 7 dwarfs, who live alone in the middle of nowhere because the society doesn’t accept them, even though they are in fact loyal and great friends, who are willing to sacrifice their lives for their friend Snow white. And turning it into a story about a Hispanic girl, who doesn’t need people, doesn’t accept help from anyone, rejects cleaning and cooking and every other activity that women usually do (even though men do these activities as well, girl has probably never seen a dorm room) and 7 magical creatures, that are completely normal healthy humans
Even worst, a girl with hispanic appearance but with zero knowledge of that culture, and also with zero brain😢😢
Sounds like everything else today. Leave the name the same but erase everything connected so all that's left is an empty shell with a fancy wrapper.
I don't understand what being Hispanic has to do with anything
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@@terenarosa4790maybe because snow WHITE is white - German to be specific. And she’s now Mexican snow brown with the entitled attitude to match! Wake up. Why else did she get the role? She’s clearly no disney princess.
"This isn't a passing of the torch, it's a torching of the past" has to be one of the most brilliant quotes I've ever heard. Well played Mauler!
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@@domomonstero3077 - Drinker was quoting Mauler in the video. He said that and showed a picture of Mauler.
"This isn't a passing of the torch, but a torching of the past" This is the official motto of The last ten years of movie sequels, revivals and reboots.
Yes. Very well put by Mauler.
Seriously. Whatever happened to paying homage to the classic. For me they can make a sequel about snow whites daughter and she can do whatever the f they want, but don't touch snow white.
All hail MauLer!
They're like Punks who aren't independent enough to create their own art, but are madly gleeful to take the nostalgia money and run, after vandalizing earlier works and upsetting Boomer's childhood memories, even if the show is as light as 'He-Man'.
@@jamesthecat OI! He-Man is Gen-X/Y not boomer... But yeah, that's exactly how they behave. And they do it on purpose.
So if it doesn’t have those things in the story, then it’s not a Snow White movie. You know what, leave this classic stories that we all love just as they are, cartoons and fairytales books.