Schmeisser SP-15 Straight-Pull AR-15 With Primary Arms SLX-1x Scope At 300m
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2023
- As part of a previous video, I zeroed my Schmeisser SP-15 Straight-Pull AR.15 with GGG 55gn .223 Rem / 5.56 at 50m according to what the manufacturer says about the reticle of the Primary Arms SLX-1x single-power scope. How does it hold up at 300m? Does the BDC reticle do what it's supposed to?
And how does it fare with 77gn MK262 Mod 1C?
Earlier video at 50m: • Schmeisser SP-15 Strai...
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I loved seeing the ammunition comparison, you just can't tell some people that 55gr can match or beat 77 even in a 1/7. And yes even in the states we can appreciate such a neat and beautiful rifle🤘
Only at shorter ranges though. Try shooting 55 at 600m or so. It'll get there, but a 77 or 80 is far better.
Love seeing the kids out shooting with you! Would be fun to see them shoot a match sometime
Love the cyclops I have one on each of my primary AR rifle and pistols.
Lovin the strait pull action I kinda find it funky great job Mikey
Yes, it was interesting Bloke! Thanks, Chap.
Looking forward to seeing your take on the comparison between 1x prism and red dot!
me too, i have both and find the prism more precise
Would like to see a next-generation shooting video with all the kids who want to shoot.
I enjoyed the on range video, and also the rifle seems impressive. I would like to see how the rifle performs with a more conventional higher magnification optic, but your groups @ 300 were impressive.
What an amazing rifle set up. I'd love to have one of these in Australia.
We have a few domestically produced straight pull ARs, but unfortunately, they are all left side charging... or pump action.
So you can't fire them while in a sling, which makes them terrible target rifles.
For what it's worth, the ACSS Reticle wasn't designed to be a precision reticle. It was designed to be a very versatile and quick combat reticle, which it appears to be doing a very good job of.
i'd love to see some form of mad minute with that straight pull ar-15, it looks like it can be fired very quickly.
It's suitably geeky to keep me happy 🙂
The audio artifact of just _how_ that bolt/spring combo wants to curl my hairs a touch, though. It's not rat tart bad, just a bit like having spam, baked beans, and sapm without the baked beans, though.
A straight pull in Switzerland. Who would have thunk it. 😂
Oh, not a regular AR but one of these funky straigh pulls. How very Swiss! ... 😉
Schmeisser is a German company though. They are known for their competition-grade AR-15s around here. Not cheap, but good. I didn't know they make a straight pull AR.
For when you want to feel like you're back in the UK without actually going
Interesting firearm
Hi there, I'm a fan of your channel. Could you please tell me on which 300m outdoor shooting range you shoot? Many thanks
That there is Guntelsey
Was the Mk 262 made by Black Hills?
And the kids keep growing...
Yup, it was :)
Interesting, the lack of change in accuracy between 55 gr. & 77 gr. at 300 M. I believe the proof of the pudding on the 77 gr. Stuff is out at 500 meters, and beyond...
Would love to know ammo prices over there. I find the range in price is staggering
Shing shing!!! I wish we could get some of those rifles in Oz 😺
I ghought straight pulls were allowed in most of the States in Australia?
@@rebralhunter6069 they are but I haven’t seen any schmeissers down under yet 🦘👍
@@rebralhunter6069correct but not as imports, the Australian ones are domestic manufacture and usually pump
@@ambivalentonion2620 why is that? Is it a legal thing where they are barred from importation? Or do foreign manufacturers simply not bother with importing them?
Is that the old (prone to breaking) handle, or the updated one that screws into the bolt carrier?
The old one
Thank you for this video. May I ask you why you used the SLX-1? Is it because it is acceped in the 300 meters ranges, because they are non magnifying?
It may be very relevant in a KD Box, or even at 50 meters, but I have a lot more doubts at 300.
I used it cos I had it and didn't have anything more suitable :)
Ok, thank you for your answer
Hey BlokeotR, have you heard of the new Primary Arms slx 5x? It doesn't seem to be getting as much fanfare as the slx 3x. I hope that you will find it at least vaguely interesting enough to do a review on it at some point.
I've heard of it, but my initial impression is that 5x is a bit much for a fixed power optic. I've been working with the 3x and it's great though, check the lastest video on the L2A2 SUIT fail.
Does it come with iron sights in the box?
Yes
You should tey some 62 or 69 grains. The 77 are a bit to much for the barrel twist imo.
Optimum twist for 77gn SMK is around 7.7". The debate is always between 7 and 8...
@@BlokeontheRange exactly. The schmiser has a 1in 9" so 62 gr would be optimal and 69 good enough.
Can the sp15 barrel use 5.56mm? tanks
Yes, because it all fits within the CIP .223 Rem specification...
Bloke, why you out of breath from laying down? you alright mate?
Normal breath control while shooting?
Well I found it funny.
Something I've wondered about straight-pull ARs is have they changed the design of the bolt/breech interface to give a bit of primary extraction, or is it just that it has a big lever and if you use good quality ammo it works well enough without?
No, there's no primary extraction and no way to add any internally into the system. If you're not using crappy ammo it shouldn't be a problem if the rifle's clean. People have made external camming lever systems but they haven't found much favour.
@@BlokeontheRange Thanks! Yes I suppose the AR's bolt head design isn't conducive to it without some fairly funky machining, which would defeat the purpose of the thing entirely.
So it’s basically a Ross rifle in ar form lol.
Your grouping has always been spot on but ive got a suspicion you are canting the rifle just a smidge. You always seem to go top right.
An unperceived cant would be to the left though, and in any case compensated for by the sights. I grew up shooting 300, 500, 600, 900 and 1000 yds, so canting was a biiiig no-no that was drilled into us (cos it screws with your windage zero when you change distances)
Do you think it might be your left hand on the toe of the butt placing just a bit of pressure on and pushing the muzzle up right slightly? Obviously that is how you are meant to shoot from a bipod or bag as it let's you fine tune elevation with just a squeeze of the v of your hand.
I don't think so...
Why the 1x rather than the 3x? As you say, 'it's not a red dot', so what's the benefit of no magnification? Good shooting!
I've got both now, but I got the 1x first cos I wanted to see what the fuss was about and to be able to do a comparison with a red dot.
@@BlokeontheRange Looking forward to your thoughts on the 3x. PA has been dumping open box units, demos from SHOT/NRA/reviews I suppose. The 3x were just over 200 and I bought scads of them mounting them now on just about everything. Seems almost perfect for WWSD clones.
your 77grn is spiraling.. not enough twist.. You need a special barrel .. like 6 to 1 or tighter for 77.. try reloading with 68grn Hornady for 7 to 1.
Wut? 1:7.7 is the optimal twist for 77gn SMK, the debate is all "do I choose 1:7 or 1:8"? I'm not shooting the 90 gr VLD nonsense...
I use 80gr in my 1in 7.7 RRA barrel, no "spiraling" there. Stable to 600 yards. Haven't had a chance to try it farther.
its not the click its your ammo change and wind
There was no wind there, certainly not 2+ MOA of it...
would a straight pull AR with a 5.56mm nato chamber be more reliable , in terms of extraction over the wylde chamber???
The throat configuration will have no impact on extraction, people worry too much about trivial differences
@@BlokeontheRange which chamber do your pefer 5.56 or wylde ???
I don't worry about trivial differences with overlapping tolerances ;)