Actually if you read the original story you find our Peter takes all of Wendy's descendants to Neverland from Wendy, to Jane to Margerat/Mary (can't remember her name) it just keeps happening
Fun fact: the story of Peter Pan was originally a play in 1901, before becoming a book adaptation in 1911. The book is like a novel version of the play, I’ve read the entire thing, and so it explains some things like it is a play script. At the end of the book, it explained how Wendy would go back for spring cleaning, but once she became an adult, Peter took her daughter Jane every few years for “spring cleaning.” It also explained that this would repeat over and over again, with each new generation coming back to Neverland for spring cleaning. The story of Peter Pan was only the story of how the generational journeys to Neverland began. Edit: Holy cow I check back after 4 months and quotations will be the death of me. To clarify so you don’t need to check the replies, Spring Cleaning was an excuse made for Wendy to be able to go back to Neverland, she only wanted to spend more time with Peter and have fun in Neverland. It’s almost never in spring and barely any cleaning involved, I’m extremely sorry that it was so confusing for people.
@@kyghosty9545 of course! In the book after Wendy, John, Michal, and the lost boys came to the nursery, Wendy wanted to have a chance to frequently go back to Neverland, but her mother didn’t want her staying for as long as she did in the books (close to about 5 months.) So Wendy suggested going back for Spring Cleaning to still be like Peter’s mother. Peter eventually forgot because you can’t really keep track of time in Neverland, and by the time Wendy went back, the pirates were all dead and Tinker Bell passed away. The Spring Cleaning would often be years apart, so Peter was horrified and disgusted the sight of her when she was grown up.
Kind of. More like he is incapable of remembering them as individuals. He didnt even remember tinkerbell (she dies bevause fairies dont live long to begin with) or hook by the end of the novel. He doesnt even remember the lost boys wendy took for adoption. You are making peter pan sound more malicious than he actually is. Hes a jerk refusing responsibility and therefore perpetually forgets anything that would mean having to grow up which includes sympathy atnd empathy. Loss of family/friends/trauma. He simply can not umderstand it. All he remembers is wanting to drag a "mother" over for spring
@@LilyUnicorn Oookay... Peter Pan is not malicious but is instead a psychopath: Webster defines psychopath as: egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one's actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies and my Goodness if that isn't Peter Pan to a T
@@LilyUnicorn that still makes him sound very creepy. I used to wish to want to follow Peter to never land but right now I'm just totally freaked out from reading all these comments. This story is really dark
@@LilyUnicorn Sort of, except I don't really think he's exactly "a jerk" and I'm not so sure how people are getting that out of it. For him, it's just his nature. For an ordinary boy living in London (for example) instead of Neverland, it would be completely and totally different. I'm not trying to say that he is spoiled and bratty and privileged, or that he deserves extra privileges either. I'm trying to say that he is unlike any other person who ever lived, or who ever lived *in fiction* either. You can't really just fit him into some particular slot, like "a jerk" or "a psychopath" or whatever. Hook is a jerk (in my view anyway). Peter Pan is basically...just being Peter Pan. Yes, he *is* unfortunately rather stuck up about himself and about being so different, but he *is actually* very different, besides. The author tells us this in the very first sentence. "All children, except one, grow up."
I used to have the Disney, "Under the Sea" Sing a long VHS tape as a kid. Probably the best part in that was when tinkerbell sprinkled pixie dust on the whole ship, and it sailed off in the sky.
Yes! Because in one version of the original story, Peter pan didn't let the lost boys go, correct? I may be wrong. That may be a re-imagining based on the original that I'm thinking about
Wendy's daughter, Jane and her own adventure in neverland, was already introduced in the original novel decades before Disney adapted it. So it's only foreshadowing for those who haven't read the book
I remember reading a book series called Peter and the Starcatchers, where Neverland first started as an ordinary island with its own people but the magic itself came from stardust, that wound up creating merpeople and fairies, and even Peter Pan. Mr. and Mrs. Darling were supposedly the same age, and had grown up fighting pirates and protecting the starstuff from a shadow monster. I'd imagine that he grew up and put all his adventures on the back burner when he became a banker and loving husband and father to his wife and children. Deep down, I don't think they'd forgotten about the boy who couldn't grow up. ^^
The fourth book of the series show Mr and Mrs. Darling much older. Mrs. Darling still remembers Peter but Mr. Darling tries to dismiss it as something else.
Yeah. Back in old disney movies, they would reuse assets, like full on dance scenes or various other animated scenes, but make it look more like it belonged in the movie they were animating. But also, old art style… stuff may look the same
That’s because the original play had the same actor as both and Disney wanted to keep with the tradition. Unfortunately when I was in middle school and did the play, two different people played the part.
Yes, they always use the same actor for Captain Hook for Mr. Darling. I believe that the reason is, while the story makes it quite clear that Peter Pan suffers from 'Mommy issues,' Wendy (& perhaps even John & Michael) suffer from 'Daddy issues.
Mr. Darling is lucky that he got away from Neverland alive…in the book Peter Pan by JM Barrie, Peter would kill the Lost Boys that were getting too old…(he’d “thin” the Lost Boys out-hence likely kill them) I wonder how many pirates that hate Peter are actually former Lost Boys that managed to escape from Peter and get sanctuary from the Pirates… It’d definitely turn the story on its head regarding who the real villain is… Edit: if there’s a reason why I can’t say that the book by JM Barrie actually says that Peter “thins” the Lost Boys out please just do a reply comment, so that I can edit my comment instead of just deleting my newer (or this) comments that try to clarify what book I was referencing about Peter killing off the Lost Boys… There were multiple requests in the replies to my comment wondering what book I was talking about, and I was trying to show that it was the original book and not some published fanfiction. Thank you.
The mom always believed in Peter Pan, the dad saw the ship when he was young, and the children's children go on adventures. But remember, no lost boy chooses to grow up. They all do and they either get killed or run away. Peter is the only one who stays young.
@@MonstehDinosawr yeah in the disney adaptation they made it so time doesn’t pass in Neverland but in the original story that’s not true. only peter doesn’t grow up for whatever magical reason. the rest of the lost boys continue to grow and once they hit puberty they get killed by peter 💀 the original is quite dark like most fairy tales
@@Mitreme When peter kills them do they still keep on living like living deads in the neverland or do they dissapear from the earth? The story i've heard is that peter pan is a dead boy who doesn't grow up, then he lures these real children to neverland and if they stay for too long they die and will never grow up. They become just like peter. Horrible story tbh 😂😂
@@melithemeli somewhere I read or saw maybe in a movie that some lost boys run away to become Pirates just like Captain Cook who was duped into being the first lost boy.😬
Like Susan from narnia when she became older in the books. She dismissed narnia ever happening and grew up to live in the modern world where she was then banned from narnia after her whole fam died in a train wreck. After they all went to paradise in Narnia, Peter said Susan was no longer a friend of narnia and therefore couldn’t join them ever again.
That's clearly and painfully an allegory for losing your religion and not being allowed in the gates of heaven with the rest of your family who are believers. The whole book series is painfully religious.
Honestly, peter pan is the reason why in private i am still acting like a child. The film showed me that getting older is okay, but i should never lose the joy of my childhood and since most of the joy from my childhood came from how i acted i still act like i did when i was 8 when i'm at home :)
That's really great.. We should really be ourselves,no loss is greater than one's own self... Ego,maturity,social profile is different things.. We can still be ourselves,being a brave hero fight & protect right things while play,happy with family,friends like kids (Last generation grandparents are wise of this than current few) Hope & wish you all well 😃🌟✨👵👴👶👫🐱🐶🐬🐘💐🌏🎑🎇⛺🏠🙌 22.03.2023 03:48 am ist
It will definitely happen again. Peter comes back every Spring for Wendy for Spring cleaning, but as she grows up, he forgets about her. When she has her daughter Jane, he takes her as well until she grows up. Then Jane has her daughter Margaret, and Peter takes her too.
I actually did spot this. I thought it was pretty cool and when hook came out it just felt complete, what if he was a different Peter who was Wendy's son in the future before Jane went. I loved the idea of never having to grow up, never having to follow any rules but I also had dreams like Wendy in real life too or am I thinking of Clara from Nutcracker? Ugh I love both movies gals. Anyways my point is I probably would have stayed in that world if it didn't look like it could be a struggle to survive. I mean yeah there are crappy jobs out there and crappier bosses but that doesn't mean they aren't all like that. But I also like to live in a little bit of a fantasy world sometimes too. I juggle both.
That’s the whole premise of the book. He takes children who never had a chance at a real childhood and gives them an adventurous one. The lost boys end up coming back with Wendy and they forget Peter too eventually.
It is. Especially because it's true for most things. People are born, they grow, they fall in love, they break their hearts, they smile, there will be wars, there will be peace, there will be plague, there will be cure, there will fortunate and unfortune, there will be once as there was before.
The book series “Peter and the Starcatchers” was written after the success of Peter Pan, by different people. It is a re-imagining of how they thought Peter Pan came to be. It isn’t exactly cannon with Peter Pan, but it is quite the story all the same. The ability to fly came from stardust. The remnants of the star were put on a ship that also happened to have Peter and the other orphaned boys on it as well as Molly, who would grow up to be Wendy’s mother. He and Molly found fast friendship on that ship, but Captain Hook, then known as Captain Black Stashe because the crock had not yet eaten his hand, heard of the mystical treasure aboard the ship and attacked it. Molly and her father were the only ones who knew the true nature of the stardust. She used some dust in her locket to fly when she and Peter were knocked from the ship. While the boys were drowning, she flew to a rowboat and came around to get them. Eventually the pirates ended up moored on the very same island as the children. The rest is history. When Molly’s father found them, Peter had tried to keep the stardust from Hook by opening the chest and letting the stardust cover him. It would have killed any other person, but somehow he survived and was forever young with the Perminant ability to fly from then on. Molly’s father used the last of his stardust on a bird nearby to create a guardian to look after the boys after he and Molly were gone and Tinkerbell was born. How Wendy’s father fits into the story is in the second book. Peter learns of a darkness that may come for Molly, so he flies, taking a boat hidden in the sails to avoid being seen whenever he had to rest. Molly had become friends with Charles back home in London by then. The three went on an adventure together to stop the darkness with Charles being somewhat reluctant to do so and not knowing about stardust like Molly did, so it took quite a bit of convincing for him to believe that these Dementor-like monsters were after mystical stardust that could turn you immortal from prolonged exposure. He never did go to Neverland, but he did get to see Peter use the stardust that the monsters were after on a ship so that they flew away from the monsters. He even got a chance to fly. The end story is, Molly was originally in love with Peter, but as he could not grow old with her and had to go back home, she married her other friend Charles.
@@onemore4567 I looked her up. She went by Margeret. It suggested that she was a sister to Moira. Peter leaves neverland for Moira as depicted in Hook. I could never understand where Margeret Darling fit in. They suggested that she was the last of the darlings to be whisked to Neverland for Spring cleaning. Sorry for not really having the knowledge about it. From reading the other comments, I realized Ms. Darling had an adventure with Peter as well.
You should read the book! It is heavily implied that Mrs. Darling had a very similar experience with Peter Pan like Wendy did. The book is only a short read and a lot scarier than the Disney film. I was surprised how spooked I was reading it!
I don't know why, but as a kid, I always thought it was alluding to the fact that he was Captain Hook. When I was a kid I thought they looked similar so I mean-
No it’s because neverland is the place we go when we dream and it represents childhood. He’s grown up and the magic of childhood has been forgotten. It’s literally the theme of the story. Reccomend the book the beginning explains neverland really well and how it’s different for everyone and can change.
This was always what I thought watching it when I was a kid- not that Peter specifically visited the Darling family but that a lot of kids had adventures with him but forgot in adulthood
PETER AND THE STARCATCHERS!!! It was Wendy's mom who knew Peter. Mr. Darling was her childhood friend who went with her on some of those adventures (at least in that book series!)
actually, theres a play about Wendy’s mother, Molly, going to neverland with peter. Its called Peter and The Starcatcher, its super good! Im currently playing molly in my high school’s production of it!
Which is why Wendy's daughter had an adventure with them as well. Although, in the origonal story, it was very dark. Pan was the only one who never grew up, and he k*lled the Lost Boys when they got older.
I highly recommend a book I read about Peter Pan. It was such a good twist on the original. Wendy Darling went to neverland with her brothers as kids but only she returned. She was found in the woods 6 months after their disappearance with no recollection of what had happened. On her 18th birthday she’s driving home when she a man falls out of the sky and she hits him with her car. He calls out to her Wendy, Wendy and she’s like who the hell is this guy? He tells her he’s peter pan and she says that’s impossible, I made you up to deal with the grief of losing my brothers. Peter’s lost his shadow who is kidnapping kids and Peter needs Wendy to help reattach him. Along the way she also investigates what happened to her brothers and the ending got me in the feeels!!!
@@Noree_F_ there’s some romantic feelings between Peter and Wendy, I dont wanna spoil too much in case people see this comment and wanna read it but I will say it wasnt Peter’s Shadow who made Wendy’s brothers disappear and when she realised what happened to her brothers I cried
My ancestor, Sir James Barrie, who never married or had offspring, wrote Peter Pan. He is the first known person to use the name "Wendy" and is credited with creating it. Up to then there was "Gwendolyn", "Gwen" and "Wenda" in popular use.
I've seen a theory saying Mrs Darling is Alice from Alice in the wonderland. Guess the family are destined to meet fantasy world during their childhood
I always assumed that Mrs Darling also had an adventure with Peter before Wendy and the boys. It made sense to me that she'd pass along her adventures as stories for the children at bedtime.
Hearing this is making me think that there should be a prequel based on this but focusing more on Mr. Darling and when he was a kid and traveling to Neverland with Peter Pan. Could be interesting
@@AndrewKarmona cool theory but i feel like he wouldn’t even have had the opportunity to forget about his adventure if it was how he met his wife, she’d probably never stop talking about it lol
@@em-gl1oc as time goes on the min convinces itself that it was just a dream or games they used to play as children Look at the movie Hook Peter Pan literally forgot he was Peter
The fact that Mr. Darling looks so much like Captain Hook (usually because they’re played by the same actor) definitely makes the stories/movies where Captain Hook is “interested” in Wendy even more creepy than the age difference and her being a minor at the time… Though if you really want to get into it, Peter’s probably actually older than Captain Hook since Peter appears to be part Fae…which would make it equally creepy (or more so) to ship Wendy with Peter…
As a kid I was so confused about how adults could forget stuff like meeting Peter Pan or going on the Polar Express. Now as an adult there are so many things I’m not sure if they really happened or if it was just a dream and that makes me sad 😭
The funniest thing is that i used to love peter pan when i was very young, like it was my favourite cartoon, to the point where i would dream that he came and give me fairy dust so that i could fly but i never went outside my neighbourhood. Over the years I've forgotten my dreams but when i rewatched it a couple of months ago i remembered most dreams and i joked with a friend "what if it actually happen and it's just now neverland works, that you can't remember it, so i only remember going to and meeting peter here, but not being there" it's cool, i wish i was a kid again.
Yes. Why? He appears to be (usually) about the same age as whatever children he is with at the time. (Source for this is Barrie, not Disney.) (Original author.)
You didn't think he was *really* Wendy's age, did you? 😉 Or even age range. Just look at it this way. He's not an old man. He's just a very old kid. 😉 (Or actually, he's just been a permanent kid for a *very* long time.) Eternal youth does tend to work that way. ("All children, except one, grow up.")
@@spacething5045 it's not like she knew! Nor did they explicitly imply it. Have you seen the animé 'To the Forest of Firefly Lights' (Hotarubi no Mori e)? Similar concept. The boy doesn't age, so it's not relevant what his real age is.
Plus in the second film Wendy Darling’s daughter goes out on an adventure with Peter Pan when the daughter is around her age in this movie. Theory??? 👀
there was a play written called Peter and the Starcatcher, where Peter (an orphan) is shipped off to an island to work for a king, when he meets a girl named Molly who is on a mission with her father to destroy a substance called starstuff, or the stuff that makes peter fly. the ship gets attacked by pirates and they crash. they end up on an island, where they “defeat” the captain (hook, or stache as he’s called in the play) and cut off his hand. Molly goes home and peter forgets about her, even though they had that amazing adventure. eventually, molly moves on and has a daughter, wendy, and peter comes back and takes wendy away. eventually the cycle continues again with wendy’s daughter, many many years later.
Huh, I always thought it meant he was a lost boy. But that's a pretty good theory as well. It would explain why Peter specifically comes to their house. Maybe he remembers their father and wanted to check up on them only to find Wendy and her brothers instead.
In one book called "Peter and the Starcatchers," we actually find out that Peter had a whole adventure and found Neverland with a girl named Molly who we later on find out grows up to be Wendy's mother
My theory: the dad was a lost boy and left because he didn’t like Peter Pan and that’s why he doesn’t want Wendy telling the stories, but the mom was in Wendy’s place and went to Neverland and that’s why she’s fine with Wendy telling the stories
I remember hearing that in the book, captain hook was a lost boy Peter tried to kill because he grew up in neverland. Which personally adds some dramatic irony to this line that makes me feel a little 😬😬😬😬
Well yeah- I’m the musical version of Peter Pan (and the original book too I think) at the end you can see Wendy’s child, going to have an adventure off in neverland.
The movie Hook kind of plays with this concept, except it was Peter Pan that grows up and has children who get to see Neverland for themselves while he’s forgotten who he was, would’ve been neat to see Mr. Darlings take on this though
Anybody want to hear an UN-fun Peter Pan fact? . I mean it, this is a super not fun thing to know, it makes this movie very depressing to watch, you've been warned. . . After Disney discontinued their contract with him (ironically because he was growing up too much), Bobby Driscoll, the voice behind Peter Pan, struggled with addiction and eventually died alone in an abandoned apartment building in Manhattan, where two kids found his body. The city failed to ID him, so he was buried in a mass grave on Hart Island for years before his mother came looking for him and finally uncovered the truth of what happened. Of course, all they could do was tell her where he was buried, they couldn't find him or move him, so he's still there. He was 31.
Yes that’s correct. He use to be a lost boy, then became Captain Hook. And so was his crew. They were all lost boys once long ago. Pan is the real villain. In the real stories, Peter Pan was the villain that was trapped to grow up, and killed all the teenagers for growing up without him, while Captain Hook “being a lost Boy survivor” rescued those teenagers from Pan to become his cremates and help save the children from Peter Pan and bring them back home to safely grow up there. Pan was always stealing/kidnapping kids and lying to them to tell them about Never where they can always have fun as kids, and never half to grow up there. But it’s nothing more than a trap as soon as they start to grow up.
Peter Pan ended up marrying Wendy's granddaughter, Moira after getting Jane (Wendy's daughter) to replace Wendy, so my guess this went on for decades until Peter decided to grow up.
So the Darling family visiting Neverland is a generational thing. First Mr Darling, then Wendy & brothers, then Wendy's daughter Jane.
Actually if you read the original story you find our Peter takes all of Wendy's descendants to Neverland from Wendy, to Jane to Margerat/Mary (can't remember her name) it just keeps happening
@@kpoplistener1111 *Neverland 😊
And ig Peter met Alice over in wonderland 😂
@@kpoplistener1111 that is both oddly wholesome and very creepy at the same time
It truly is a family thing 🤣
Or, maybe he was a Lost Boy who decided to grow up
sir please stop your scaring me
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@Evey Adele this translates to father rotflmao 😂
@Evey Adele 😳😳😳
@Evey Adele ✌️ hahahahah nope get me outta here
Fun fact: the story of Peter Pan was originally a play in 1901, before becoming a book adaptation in 1911. The book is like a novel version of the play, I’ve read the entire thing, and so it explains some things like it is a play script. At the end of the book, it explained how Wendy would go back for spring cleaning, but once she became an adult, Peter took her daughter Jane every few years for “spring cleaning.” It also explained that this would repeat over and over again, with each new generation coming back to Neverland for spring cleaning. The story of Peter Pan was only the story of how the generational journeys to Neverland began.
Edit: Holy cow I check back after 4 months and quotations will be the death of me. To clarify so you don’t need to check the replies, Spring Cleaning was an excuse made for Wendy to be able to go back to Neverland, she only wanted to spend more time with Peter and have fun in Neverland. It’s almost never in spring and barely any cleaning involved, I’m extremely sorry that it was so confusing for people.
great
I was today years old learning this.
Could you explain the spring cleaning
"Spring cleaning"? Peter Pan kinda sus for kidnapping these little girls for whatever that is...
@@kyghosty9545 of course! In the book after Wendy, John, Michal, and the lost boys came to the nursery, Wendy wanted to have a chance to frequently go back to Neverland, but her mother didn’t want her staying for as long as she did in the books (close to about 5 months.) So Wendy suggested going back for Spring Cleaning to still be like Peter’s mother. Peter eventually forgot because you can’t really keep track of time in Neverland, and by the time Wendy went back, the pirates were all dead and Tinker Bell passed away. The Spring Cleaning would often be years apart, so Peter was horrified and disgusted the sight of her when she was grown up.
Yeah, I thought it was a joke relating to Captain Hook and Mr. Darling always being played by the same actor in the play version
Look at their faces….
Your pfp🍁
That's what I thought too growing up and they censored his hand 🤣👍
Fairly certain he and Captain hook have the same voice actor in this cartoon version as well!
Wendy: *daddy issues intensifies*
So Peter is specifically targeting this one family, that's not creepy at all 😂
Kind of. More like he is incapable of remembering them as individuals. He didnt even remember tinkerbell (she dies bevause fairies dont live long to begin with) or hook by the end of the novel. He doesnt even remember the lost boys wendy took for adoption.
You are making peter pan sound more malicious than he actually is. Hes a jerk refusing responsibility and therefore perpetually forgets anything that would mean having to grow up which includes sympathy atnd empathy. Loss of family/friends/trauma. He simply can not umderstand it.
All he remembers is wanting to drag a "mother" over for spring
@@LilyUnicorn Oookay... Peter Pan is not malicious but is instead a psychopath:
Webster defines psychopath as:
egocentric and antisocial personality marked by a lack of remorse for one's actions, an absence of empathy for others, and often criminal tendencies
and my Goodness if that isn't Peter Pan to a T
@@LilyUnicorn that still makes him sound very creepy. I used to wish to want to follow Peter to never land but right now I'm just totally freaked out from reading all these comments. This story is really dark
@@starrbrown9852 An actual psychopath is worse.
You need more than just the dictionary definition.
@@LilyUnicorn Sort of, except I don't really think he's exactly "a jerk" and I'm not so sure how people are getting that out of it.
For him, it's just his nature.
For an ordinary boy living in London (for example) instead of Neverland, it would be completely and totally different.
I'm not trying to say that he is spoiled and bratty and privileged, or that he deserves extra privileges either.
I'm trying to say that he is unlike any other person who ever lived, or who ever lived *in fiction* either.
You can't really just fit him into some particular slot, like "a jerk" or "a psychopath" or whatever.
Hook is a jerk (in my view anyway).
Peter Pan is basically...just being Peter Pan.
Yes, he *is* unfortunately rather stuck up about himself and about being so different, but he *is actually* very different, besides.
The author tells us this in the very first sentence.
"All children, except one, grow up."
Mr. Darling is lucky to have made it out alive.
I used to have the Disney, "Under the Sea" Sing a long VHS tape as a kid. Probably the best part in that was when tinkerbell sprinkled pixie dust on the whole ship, and it sailed off in the sky.
Right? Like after watching 'Once upon a time' season 3, I will never watch Peter pan the same way again.
Peter Pan has always been scary, I was terrified of sleeping with the window open for the longest time
@@jazz9090 he was my childhood crush so seeing that was creepy
Yes! Because in one version of the original story, Peter pan didn't let the lost boys go, correct? I may be wrong. That may be a re-imagining based on the original that I'm thinking about
If you look at the sequel this can also be seen as foreshadowing 🧚
Can you give an example?
@@elizabethsolorio9837 wendy's daughter also went to neverland
Wendy's daughter, Jane and her own adventure in neverland, was already introduced in the original novel decades before Disney adapted it. So it's only foreshadowing for those who haven't read the book
@@jb2stars280 yeah I know! I’ve seen that movie
The movie sequel is adapted from the end of the book.
And the end of the play.
*Very loosely* adapted, of course.
I remember reading a book series called Peter and the Starcatchers, where Neverland first started as an ordinary island with its own people but the magic itself came from stardust, that wound up creating merpeople and fairies, and even Peter Pan. Mr. and Mrs. Darling were supposedly the same age, and had grown up fighting pirates and protecting the starstuff from a shadow monster. I'd imagine that he grew up and put all his adventures on the back burner when he became a banker and loving husband and father to his wife and children. Deep down, I don't think they'd forgotten about the boy who couldn't grow up. ^^
I remember reading those books
That was the first serious novel i ever read! Those books were thick but fantastic!
Those are actually Disney books, and I’ve always had hope that they would be turned into movies someday
Isn't that a tv show for preschoolers? I remember seeing a Peter pan like pirate show flipping through channels
The fourth book of the series show Mr and Mrs. Darling much older. Mrs. Darling still remembers Peter but Mr. Darling tries to dismiss it as something else.
Doesn't dat lady look like Cinderella
Yeah. Back in old disney movies, they would reuse assets, like full on dance scenes or various other animated scenes, but make it look more like it belonged in the movie they were animating. But also, old art style… stuff may look the same
I was thinking the same thing.
Ikr? And Wendy looks like Alice from Alice in Wonderland.
@@Joe_334 well not in her hair color or hair style…I’m not sure about how similar their faces are either…
@@Joe_334 Well, they were played by the same actress, so that could be a cool nod to her!
Mr. Darling and Captain Hook have the same voice actor.
I think they were hinting towards that, when they casted the actor as Mr. Darling and Hook in the 2003 Film.
That’s because the original play had the same actor as both and Disney wanted to keep with the tradition. Unfortunately when I was in middle school and did the play, two different people played the part.
Yes, they always use the same actor for Captain Hook for Mr. Darling. I believe that the reason is, while the story makes it quite clear that Peter Pan suffers from 'Mommy issues,' Wendy (& perhaps even John & Michael) suffer from 'Daddy issues.
Mr. Darling is lucky that he got away from Neverland alive…in the book Peter Pan by JM Barrie, Peter would kill the Lost Boys that were getting too old…(he’d “thin” the Lost Boys out-hence likely kill them)
I wonder how many pirates that hate Peter are actually former Lost Boys that managed to escape from Peter and get sanctuary from the Pirates…
It’d definitely turn the story on its head regarding who the real villain is…
Edit: if there’s a reason why I can’t say that the book by JM Barrie actually says that Peter “thins” the Lost Boys out please just do a reply comment, so that I can edit my comment instead of just deleting my newer (or this) comments that try to clarify what book I was referencing about Peter killing off the Lost Boys…
There were multiple requests in the replies to my comment wondering what book I was talking about, and I was trying to show that it was the original book and not some published fanfiction.
Thank you.
Yes...
Once upon a time touches on this too
What book?
Tell me bout it? Please
@@barinarajper8c660 I also want to read about it too
I never noticed just how well the expressive animation was done for this film.
The mom always believed in Peter Pan, the dad saw the ship when he was young, and the children's children go on adventures.
But remember, no lost boy chooses to grow up. They all do and they either get killed or run away. Peter is the only one who stays young.
Except in the Disney adaptations the boys don't grow up, cos they're all still there young when Jane gets there
@@MonstehDinosawr yeah in the disney adaptation they made it so time doesn’t pass in Neverland but in the original story that’s not true. only peter doesn’t grow up for whatever magical reason. the rest of the lost boys continue to grow and once they hit puberty they get killed by peter 💀 the original is quite dark like most fairy tales
@@Mitreme When peter kills them do they still keep on living like living deads in the neverland or do they dissapear from the earth? The story i've heard is that peter pan is a dead boy who doesn't grow up, then he lures these real children to neverland and if they stay for too long they die and will never grow up. They become just like peter. Horrible story tbh 😂😂
@@Mitreme I believe in Hook they don't grow up either.
@@melithemeli somewhere I read or saw maybe in a movie that some lost boys run away to become Pirates just like Captain Cook who was duped into being the first lost boy.😬
Like Susan from narnia when she became older in the books. She dismissed narnia ever happening and grew up to live in the modern world where she was then banned from narnia after her whole fam died in a train wreck. After they all went to paradise in Narnia, Peter said Susan was no longer a friend of narnia and therefore couldn’t join them ever again.
Dang... that's rough.
That's clearly and painfully an allegory for losing your religion and not being allowed in the gates of heaven with the rest of your family who are believers.
The whole book series is painfully religious.
I didn't like that part of the series
@@SatanRomps no problem with it being religious. There are such thing as religious movies
@@SatanRomps it’s far more important to know God personally like a bff ,many know OF him but don’t know Him
The real question is “who didn’t know this”
That's what I was wondering, glad I'm not alone
I didn't know 😕
I’m surprised people didn’t know it …they made it pretty obvious in the movie
Girl be quiet you clearly didn’t know either cause no grown up is walking around remembering the first line of peter pan like a weirdo
@@anastasia-fr1gn yeah… I mean, were they even watching the movie? 😅 they spell it out…
Honestly, peter pan is the reason why in private i am still acting like a child. The film showed me that getting older is okay, but i should never lose the joy of my childhood and since most of the joy from my childhood came from how i acted i still act like i did when i was 8 when i'm at home :)
That's really great..
We should really be ourselves,no loss is greater than one's own self...
Ego,maturity,social profile is different things..
We can still be ourselves,being a brave hero fight & protect right things while play,happy with family,friends like kids
(Last generation grandparents are wise of this than current few)
Hope & wish you all well 😃🌟✨👵👴👶👫🐱🐶🐬🐘💐🌏🎑🎇⛺🏠🙌
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That’s true, I still feel like I’m 12 lmao!
It will definitely happen again. Peter comes back every Spring for Wendy for Spring cleaning, but as she grows up, he forgets about her. When she has her daughter Jane, he takes her as well until she grows up. Then Jane has her daughter Margaret, and Peter takes her too.
There's so much content that Disney can resort to, Wendy's mother clearly has too, perhaps two separate families have been taken to Neverland
And if maybe they knew each other?
@@camilaalmiron5588 well, the movie says Mrs Darling considered Peter Pan as the spirit of youth
Season 3 of Once Upon A Time is the only show that has expanded on the lore
I actually did spot this. I thought it was pretty cool and when hook came out it just felt complete, what if he was a different Peter who was Wendy's son in the future before Jane went. I loved the idea of never having to grow up, never having to follow any rules but I also had dreams like Wendy in real life too or am I thinking of Clara from Nutcracker? Ugh I love both movies gals. Anyways my point is I probably would have stayed in that world if it didn't look like it could be a struggle to survive. I mean yeah there are crappy jobs out there and crappier bosses but that doesn't mean they aren't all like that. But I also like to live in a little bit of a fantasy world sometimes too. I juggle both.
But is it a fantasy world? If you grow up you will be killed by Peter pan if not him maybe the mermaids or the pirates even , that world is very dark
The mom in the darling family looks like Cinderella….
I just noticed that. She could be a descendant of Cinderella🤔🤔🤔
@@starzz.xx3516 that would be so cool!
@@eyesfullofstars13 I know right
My thoughts exactly
She looks nothing like her.
If any of you have heard of the musical “Peter and the Starcatcher,” Molly Aster helped Peter Pan become Peter Pan. Molly Aster is Wendy’s mother.
It's a book series too.
That’s the whole premise of the book. He takes children who never had a chance at a real childhood and gives them an adventurous one.
The lost boys end up coming back with Wendy and they forget Peter too eventually.
To be honest, I got nervous when Wendy told him that she was going to leave with her brothers, and Peter Pan copped an attitude.
@@Joe_334 Peter pretended he didn’t care, the sweet derpy little lost boys threatened to keep her prisoner 😂
@@Lovinia1 but what about those who decide to grow up but chose to never forget their childhood ?
@@andreasanchez1453 they tell their children and start a new line of mothers. Any child who believes in Peter will eventually be found by him.
The real story is he take children....kidnap them really, do harmful things to them if they age.
Now thinking about that the statement it is all happened before and it will all happen again is rather ominous
It is. Especially because it's true for most things. People are born, they grow, they fall in love, they break their hearts, they smile, there will be wars, there will be peace, there will be plague, there will be cure, there will fortunate and unfortune, there will be once as there was before.
The book series “Peter and the Starcatchers” was written after the success of Peter Pan, by different people. It is a re-imagining of how they thought Peter Pan came to be. It isn’t exactly cannon with Peter Pan, but it is quite the story all the same.
The ability to fly came from stardust. The remnants of the star were put on a ship that also happened to have Peter and the other orphaned boys on it as well as Molly, who would grow up to be Wendy’s mother. He and Molly found fast friendship on that ship, but Captain Hook, then known as Captain Black Stashe because the crock had not yet eaten his hand, heard of the mystical treasure aboard the ship and attacked it. Molly and her father were the only ones who knew the true nature of the stardust. She used some dust in her locket to fly when she and Peter were knocked from the ship. While the boys were drowning, she flew to a rowboat and came around to get them. Eventually the pirates ended up moored on the very same island as the children. The rest is history.
When Molly’s father found them, Peter had tried to keep the stardust from Hook by opening the chest and letting the stardust cover him. It would have killed any other person, but somehow he survived and was forever young with the Perminant ability to fly from then on. Molly’s father used the last of his stardust on a bird nearby to create a guardian to look after the boys after he and Molly were gone and Tinkerbell was born.
How Wendy’s father fits into the story is in the second book. Peter learns of a darkness that may come for Molly, so he flies, taking a boat hidden in the sails to avoid being seen whenever he had to rest. Molly had become friends with Charles back home in London by then. The three went on an adventure together to stop the darkness with Charles being somewhat reluctant to do so and not knowing about stardust like Molly did, so it took quite a bit of convincing for him to believe that these Dementor-like monsters were after mystical stardust that could turn you immortal from prolonged exposure. He never did go to Neverland, but he did get to see Peter use the stardust that the monsters were after on a ship so that they flew away from the monsters. He even got a chance to fly.
The end story is, Molly was originally in love with Peter, but as he could not grow old with her and had to go back home, she married her other friend Charles.
Loved those books! They are my canon lmao
Immortality sucks.
Hans Conried voiced Mr Darling and captain hook.👌🏻🙏🏻😁😀
And then we go back to Neverland again with Jane, although Wendy still remembers him and Tinkerbell
Isn't there another adventure with Jane's child too?
@@Joe_334 there was no following movie with Jane's child, but it's possible
@@onemore4567 I looked her up. She went by Margeret. It suggested that she was a sister to Moira. Peter leaves neverland for Moira as depicted in Hook. I could never understand where Margeret Darling fit in. They suggested that she was the last of the darlings to be whisked to Neverland for Spring cleaning. Sorry for not really having the knowledge about it. From reading the other comments, I realized Ms. Darling had an adventure with Peter as well.
Grown-up Wendy didn’t forget in the sequel. It was her daughter who acted more like the adult.
Did you notice Wendy and Jane have a change of life thanks to Peter Pan
@@a.g.demada5263 Peter Pan made Jane more whimsical and less grown-up while he made Wendy more grown-up in having to put up with his hijinks.
As a 44 year old, I'm glad I haven't dismissed any of my childhood experiences or fantasies. 😊
You should read the book! It is heavily implied that Mrs. Darling had a very similar experience with Peter Pan like Wendy did.
The book is only a short read and a lot scarier than the Disney film. I was surprised how spooked I was reading it!
I don't know why, but as a kid, I always thought it was alluding to the fact that he was Captain Hook. When I was a kid I thought they looked similar so I mean-
In original play both Hook and Mr Darling were played by the same actor!
No it’s because neverland is the place we go when we dream and it represents childhood. He’s grown up and the magic of childhood has been forgotten. It’s literally the theme of the story. Reccomend the book the beginning explains neverland really well and how it’s different for everyone and can change.
This was always what I thought watching it when I was a kid- not that Peter specifically visited the Darling family but that a lot of kids had adventures with him but forgot in adulthood
Let's all not forget Once Upon Time followed the Peter Pan evil plot!
Yesss
PETER AND THE STARCATCHERS!!! It was Wendy's mom who knew Peter. Mr. Darling was her childhood friend who went with her on some of those adventures (at least in that book series!)
actually, theres a play about Wendy’s mother, Molly, going to neverland with peter. Its called Peter and The Starcatcher, its super good! Im currently playing molly in my high school’s production of it!
The play is based on a book series.
Yes, I noticed that. I was three years old when I noticed that. He recognised the ship. That meant he'd seen it before.
Which is why Wendy's daughter had an adventure with them as well.
Although, in the origonal story, it was very dark. Pan was the only one who never grew up, and he k*lled the Lost Boys when they got older.
The way he delivered that line was so perfect too.
The Darling family truly have a unique connection to Peter.
I highly recommend a book I read about Peter Pan. It was such a good twist on the original. Wendy Darling went to neverland with her brothers as kids but only she returned. She was found in the woods 6 months after their disappearance with no recollection of what had happened. On her 18th birthday she’s driving home when she a man falls out of the sky and she hits him with her car. He calls out to her Wendy, Wendy and she’s like who the hell is this guy? He tells her he’s peter pan and she says that’s impossible, I made you up to deal with the grief of losing my brothers. Peter’s lost his shadow who is kidnapping kids and Peter needs Wendy to help reattach him. Along the way she also investigates what happened to her brothers and the ending got me in the feeels!!!
@@Luxiverse. lost in the never woods- AMAZING
Can you spoil more pretty pleaseeee
@@Noree_F_ there’s some romantic feelings between Peter and Wendy, I dont wanna spoil too much in case people see this comment and wanna read it but I will say it wasnt Peter’s Shadow who made Wendy’s brothers disappear and when she realised what happened to her brothers I cried
My ancestor, Sir James Barrie, who never married or had offspring, wrote Peter Pan.
He is the first known person to use the name "Wendy" and is credited with creating it.
Up to then there was "Gwendolyn", "Gwen" and "Wenda" in popular use.
In the book they also mention that Wendy’s daughter Jane goes on an adventure with Peter, and then Jane’s daughter does the same
I've seen a theory saying Mrs Darling is Alice from Alice in the wonderland. Guess the family are destined to meet fantasy world during their childhood
I always assumed that Mrs Darling also had an adventure with Peter before Wendy and the boys. It made sense to me that she'd pass along her adventures as stories for the children at bedtime.
Takes a minute:
Patrick voice: OH I GET IT HAHAHHAH
Hearing this is making me think that there should be a prequel based on this but focusing more on Mr. Darling and when he was a kid and traveling to Neverland with Peter Pan. Could be interesting
“I am a lost boy from neverland”
I thought it was usually the woman who had these adventures with Peter Pan.
what if Mrs. Darling is the one he took but Mr. Darling (who was a lost boy) fell in love with her and decided to come back with Mrs. Darling 😮
@@AndrewKarmona cool theory but i feel like he wouldn’t even have had the opportunity to forget about his adventure if it was how he met his wife, she’d probably never stop talking about it lol
@@em-gl1oc as time goes on the min convinces itself that it was just a dream or games they used to play as children
Look at the movie Hook
Peter Pan literally forgot he was Peter
Yes, I think Disney got it wrong with Mr. Darling
Yes because he was always looking for a mother figure for him and the lost boys but Mr Darling used to be a lost boy.
Now THAT would be a good Disney reboot!
And then Wendy's daughter went to neverland too
The fact that Mr. Darling looks so much like Captain Hook (usually because they’re played by the same actor) definitely makes the stories/movies where Captain Hook is “interested” in Wendy even more creepy than the age difference and her being a minor at the time…
Though if you really want to get into it, Peter’s probably actually older than Captain Hook since Peter appears to be part Fae…which would make it equally creepy (or more so) to ship Wendy with Peter…
As a kid I was so confused about how adults could forget stuff like meeting Peter Pan or going on the Polar Express. Now as an adult there are so many things I’m not sure if they really happened or if it was just a dream and that makes me sad 😭
Then there’s also Peter and the Starcatchers, when Wendy’s mother Molly had an adventure with him too! Peter gets around!
The funniest thing is that i used to love peter pan when i was very young, like it was my favourite cartoon, to the point where i would dream that he came and give me fairy dust so that i could fly but i never went outside my neighbourhood. Over the years I've forgotten my dreams but when i rewatched it a couple of months ago i remembered most dreams and i joked with a friend "what if it actually happen and it's just now neverland works, that you can't remember it, so i only remember going to and meeting peter here, but not being there" it's cool, i wish i was a kid again.
There is also a book series revolving mostly around Peter Pan. The first book is called Peter and the Star Catchers. Really good book series
Things we loose in between Childhood to Adulthood.
WAIT WAIT WAIT DOES THAT MEAN PETER PAN IS TECHNICALLY OLDER THAN WENDY'S FATHER 💀
He’s immortal basically bc he never grows up or ages
Yes. Why?
He appears to be (usually) about the same age as whatever children he is with at the time.
(Source for this is Barrie, not Disney.)
(Original author.)
You didn't think he was *really* Wendy's age, did you? 😉
Or even age range.
Just look at it this way.
He's not an old man.
He's just a very old kid. 😉
(Or actually, he's just been a permanent kid for a *very* long time.)
Eternal youth does tend to work that way.
("All children, except one, grow up.")
@@lunarialoonatic ik but isn't it just weird dating someone who knew your dad as a kid? like he might be immortal but it's still kinda weird...
@@spacething5045 it's not like she knew! Nor did they explicitly imply it. Have you seen the animé 'To the Forest of Firefly Lights' (Hotarubi no Mori e)? Similar concept. The boy doesn't age, so it's not relevant what his real age is.
Sounds like we need a sequel of when Mr. Darling was a kid!
Did you know basically the same line is in the beginning in Mary Poppins :)
I miss the old animation😢
Plus in the second film Wendy Darling’s daughter goes out on an adventure with Peter Pan when the daughter is around her age in this movie. Theory??? 👀
there was a play written called Peter and the Starcatcher, where Peter (an orphan) is shipped off to an island to work for a king, when he meets a girl named Molly who is on a mission with her father to destroy a substance called starstuff, or the stuff that makes peter fly. the ship gets attacked by pirates and they crash. they end up on an island, where they “defeat” the captain (hook, or stache as he’s called in the play) and cut off his hand. Molly goes home and peter forgets about her, even though they had that amazing adventure. eventually, molly moves on and has a daughter, wendy, and peter comes back and takes wendy away. eventually the cycle continues again with wendy’s daughter, many many years later.
Huh, I always thought it meant he was a lost boy. But that's a pretty good theory as well. It would explain why Peter specifically comes to their house. Maybe he remembers their father and wanted to check up on them only to find Wendy and her brothers instead.
The way Hans delivers the last line is so wholesome.
My dude captain hook, fighting the evil Peter pan for all these years is a true inspiration
In one book called "Peter and the Starcatchers," we actually find out that Peter had a whole adventure and found Neverland with a girl named Molly who we later on find out grows up to be Wendy's mother
Can we just appreciate how pretty Mrs Darling is
I had that figured out a long time ago. I think that movie Hook also pretty much touches on that.
wait..you mean….you guys didn’t already know this beforehand????
My theory: the dad was a lost boy and left because he didn’t like Peter Pan and that’s why he doesn’t want Wendy telling the stories, but the mom was in Wendy’s place and went to Neverland and that’s why she’s fine with Wendy telling the stories
Some adults are so boring, your not suppose to forget and dismiss things just cause you think youve grown up
The sequel of Peter Pan (1953) is Return to Never Land (2002) in 49 years later.
1953+49=2002
And then Wendy's daughter goes to Neverland in the sequel
Oh that's kinda cool.
I remember hearing that in the book, captain hook was a lost boy Peter tried to kill because he grew up in neverland. Which personally adds some dramatic irony to this line that makes me feel a little 😬😬😬😬
Well considering the fact Peter stole boys from their strollers, i can't really blame hook🤔
@@lenax9798 yeeeeeeah-
hard not to root for hook when you see how messed up Peter is-
He also makes fun of the captain's ptsd-
Peter is a little shit
@@lenax9798 poor guy
“It will All Happen Again” Also Alluded to Wendy having a Daughter and her going to Neverland
It's probably supposed to be magical and and cool, but that honestly sounds very disturbing.
“Here’s something you might not know”
Literally the lines said in the movie that anyone would’ve figured out had they watched the movie
Well yeah- I’m the musical version of Peter Pan (and the original book too I think) at the end you can see Wendy’s child, going to have an adventure off in neverland.
The movie Hook kind of plays with this concept, except it was Peter Pan that grows up and has children who get to see Neverland for themselves while he’s forgotten who he was, would’ve been neat to see Mr. Darlings take on this though
As a child, I thought the father was implying his connection to captain hook. You know, cuz of the voice
he dismissed it & so did Jane to begin with - Wendy is the only one who ran along with it & kept it in her mind
The darlings get generational adventures in Neverland but the madrigal family get generational trauma...smh
Stolas and Blitz had such joyful aspirations about growing up but now neither seems particularly happy.
Good for Stolas for standing up for himself.
And then Wendy’s daughter goes to Neverland in the next movie
I'm glad George remembered the clouds of ship.
and like how wendy’s daughter goes on the same adventure
"how long have you been 17?"
Anybody want to hear an UN-fun Peter Pan fact?
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I mean it, this is a super not fun thing to know, it makes this movie very depressing to watch, you've been warned.
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After Disney discontinued their contract with him (ironically because he was growing up too much), Bobby Driscoll, the voice behind Peter Pan, struggled with addiction and eventually died alone in an abandoned apartment building in Manhattan, where two kids found his body. The city failed to ID him, so he was buried in a mass grave on Hart Island for years before his mother came looking for him and finally uncovered the truth of what happened. Of course, all they could do was tell her where he was buried, they couldn't find him or move him, so he's still there. He was 31.
My God... Poor guy
Yes
Yes that’s correct. He use to be a lost boy, then became Captain Hook. And so was his crew. They were all lost boys once long ago.
Pan is the real villain. In the real stories, Peter Pan was the villain that was trapped to grow up, and killed all the teenagers for growing up without him, while Captain Hook “being a lost Boy survivor” rescued those teenagers from Pan to become his cremates and help save the children from Peter Pan and bring them back home to safely grow up there. Pan was always stealing/kidnapping kids and lying to them to tell them about Never where they can always have fun as kids, and never half to grow up there. But it’s nothing more than a trap as soon as they start to grow up.
I have not seen the original version or either it was soo long ago. That’s cool to realize
The book series Peter and the starcatchers kinda makes Peter Pan make sense more. And it’s really good series.
Okay so basically Peter Pan is literally targeting the Darling family?
Peter just being an absolute menace to that family tree
I didn't know that mr Darwin was allso taking adventure with Peter Pan.
Peter Pan was my favorite movie as a kid. this makes a lot of sense
Bruh when I was a kid I thought he was captain Hook or smth-
And his grandchildren as well.
His wife is cinderellas lost sister
Peter Pan ended up marrying Wendy's granddaughter, Moira after getting Jane (Wendy's daughter) to replace Wendy, so my guess this went on for decades until Peter decided to grow up.
Traded her in for a newer model, huh? 🤣