Vocal Coach REACTS - Meshuggah 'Bleed' (LIVE drum cam)
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2020
- Wow! What a performance from Tomas Haake and Meshuggah. I wasn't ready... probably never will be.
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Meshuggah is a Swedish extreme metal band from Umeå, formed in 1987. Meshuggah's current lineup consists of founding members lead vocalist Jens Kidman and lead guitarist Fredrik Thordendal, drummer Tomas Haake since 1990, rhythm guitarist Mårten Hagström since 1993 and bassist Dick Lövgren since 2004.
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"This guy's inspiring me to play drums just so I can quit in disgust when I try to play what he's doing now."
Every drummer that's ever tried to learn this song felt that
So accurate!!
"son of a beach towel"... I'm so stealing this lol
It's almost a Hitchhiker's reference...
”You’r a towel!” - Toweli South park
Yep. Totally using this from now on lol
Lol
Y same
"he's so calm and in the center and just relaxed"
Would you say he's obscenely zen?
I really don't reply to comments buut you got my attention mate, fuckin underrated. It took me a month though
@@robert_aram It took me like a year to figure out what ObZen meant... It's a really smart title to a really smart album. Cheers dude! 🍻
Wait a sec. damn I just got that
NICE
muahahaha
Non-drummers: This sounds really difficult. Drummers: This is really really really beyond difficult. Kudos for this one LOL.
"I wasn't ready!"
No one ever is.
Last year he opened the song with „Let‘s see if you recognise this one“
I remember hearing Meshuggah for the 1st time in 2002. I was watching Headbangers ball and Rational Gaze came on 🤯🤯. Still is.
Lets see how mindblowing the new album is gonna be
@@12xx12100 what? Have they announced a new is under way?
hakkenarsk they cancels a festival gig and in the announcement they said that they are working on an album
I saw them open for Tool in 2001. Seeing Tomas Haake and Danny Carey perform on the same night was amazing!
Brian Blacketer I did too. First time I ever saw them live. I think it’s their first tour in the US too. I had been listening to them a couple of years at that point. Now I think I’ve seen them live more than any other band lol
Same here. It was the Lateralus tour and I had never heard or even heard of Meshuggah before that. Amazing.
That was my first time seeing both live as well. I knew of Meshuggah, but hadn’t really listened to them. I was impressed with their set.
I saw the same tour. Impressive to say the least.
You lucky bastard you!🤟🤟
Messhuggah is like getting chased through the mud, the density of that, mixed with getting chased by a crocodile coming at you at a constant speed.
I allways think that its the musik to the gates of hell, or the elevater msuic in hell.
F'n eh, well put!
now that you’ve bared witness to the chaos, you should listen to Bill Burr tell his first time hearing this. it’s hilarious. he was completely mind bent.
True! That video is hilarious!
Brrrtta brrrrta and so on... yeah, it was hilarious!
don't forget the Bleed remix with Bill's sounds, it's amazing
“And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope” - Ne Obliviscaris live Denver 2016
Love the willingness to appreciate all music
The live really isn't that good. Better to do Dan Presland'a drum play through
I fully endorse this suggestion. Great song and great footage.
@@ReinhardtBII thanks for saying this. Annoys me that this is the version people react too. The mixing on the guitars is so lackluster
@@Addede I completely agree about the mixing. Not every great concert yields great footage, unfortunately
@@ReinhardtBII I agree as well. All of them play very tight but their engineering during live show arent very good
Meshuggah, someone once said “It’s like 3 dudes playing in different times, all in time.”
Ken: BLEED is supposed to be from the perspective of someone having an aneurysm. It's absolutely relentless and this level of syncopation is pretty much the standard for them. See also "Dancers to a Discordant System" and "Straws Pulled at Random"
I heard it was a band member who had one. But that is what you hear.
@Jakob Tanchak
Yeah, "Dancers..." are just friggin' epic.
Relentless is the perfect description of this track. There's that one longer break in there, but otherwise, yes, relentless is the word.
straws pulled at random is an underrated song. one of my favorites
Straws Pulled At Random is one of my favorite Meshuggah songs ever. So is Dancers To A Discordant System.
what's great from a singer perspective is noticing how the singer is basically the metronome, he's very consistent throughout the craziness around
You can hear him straining on certain words to emulate the note bending they do during the whole song too and it's awesome.
This channel is like, "your brother in-law reacts to all your old metal albums". :D
It's nice huh? :D
I saw Tool and Meshuggah in 2002. It was absolutely incredible.
It’s awesome how people think songs like Bleed have odd time signatures in the drums. But -from start to finish- this song is in 4/4. There is not a moment where it’s not. The crazy patterns are circular but they all come back to bar divisions of 4. You could set up a metronome and where the repetitions begin and end become more clear.
That’s the thing I love the most about Meshuggah. Nobody makes 4/4 as complex as them. Nobody!
Tomas writes like 90% of the song lyrics too, has been for years now.
This song taught me the word "vellicate" which is a really cool word, btw. These aren't the 4th grade level lyrics you great in pop music. It wasn't the last time I went to the dictionary from a Meshuggah song.
@@Shake69ification Spasm actually is sung (spoken?) by Tomas, and that one has all kinds of crazy words. The first song I ever heard by Meshuggah in the late 90's was Future Breed Machine, and that's what made me a fan.
Hell of a first foray into the extreme side of metal hahaha
Lol right? He dove in head first on the deep end
If this impressed you react to Meshuggah ‘Clockworks’ (drum-cam). The drumming is several levels up from this and not just about the 🦶. The vocalist also expresses much more range as it’s more of a ballad....wait, what?
A shame the sound and video dont actually match in that video though :P always bothered me too much to appreciate it really
I'm not that big of a fan of Meshuggah. That being said, Clockworks is a masterpiece. I can listen to it any day.
Agreed Clockworks really, really impressed me when they released it.
This is by far the best reaction vid I've seen of Bleed. Son of a beach towel, I lol'ed.
“In polymeters typically used by Meshuggah, the guitars might play in odd meters such as 5/16 or 17/16, while drums play in 4/4.[24] One particular example of Haake's use of polymeter is 4/4 against 23/16 bimeter, in which he keeps the hi-hat and ride cymbal in 4/4 time but uses the snare and double bass drums in 23/16 time.[9][34] On "Rational Gaze" (from Nothing), Haake plays simple 4/4 time, hitting the snare on each third beat, for 16 bars. At the same time, the guitars and bass are playing same quarter notes, albeit in a different time signature; eventually both sides meet up again at the 64th beat.[28] Hagström notes about the polymeters, "We've never really been into the odd time signatures we get accused of using. Everything we do is based around a 4/4 core. It's just that we arrange parts differently around that center to make it seem like something else is going on."
(source - Wikipedia)
I never could fathom how someone can play 4 completely different patterns with all 4 limbs.
To me this one sounds mostly 4/4 although the drummer makes a lot of weird accented patterns to hide it very well ) I'm coming from the world of modular electro music, where this trick is a simple cool way to enrich your rhythm: to shift some patterns or to use an euclidean generator for example, but this guy doing it all on stage in realtime - applause!
The secret is that Hake only play 4/4 on the HiHat and Snare, and then he play with the guitar ex 7/8 osv with the kagge
Actually there are sections in here (the faster snare parts) that are players a 3:2 polyrhythm Hihat to snare, with the regular kick pattern underneath.
Aside from that though, most of the hihat is in 4/4 with syncopated snares tied to the guitar riffs.
They use a very Carnatic approach to rhythm and meter, with the cymbal acting as a tala of sort to "keep the pulse" while the other instruments do long cyclic hypermeters
Utterly over the moon that you reacted to Meshuggah
Congratulations my man, you have survived the onslaught that is Meshuggah.
And you did so with a level of appreciation so that's impressive.
On the point of drumming without shoes - it gives you more of a feel for the pedal without a big sole dampening it. In a song with as much bass pedal control as this, it's important you can feel where the bass pedal is as you use it. I always used to take my shoes off for gigs and recordings. Never barefoot though because my feet would stick to the pedals....
Their current live guitarist Per Nilsen improvises based around the studio solos and adds his own flair to them.
Yes, it's quite common for metal drummers to go with socks or bare feet. It offers you more control, and when you have foot control for multiple drums or cymbals, that extra touch does help.
on the other hand, we have Hellhammer in massive boots
Then there is Gene Hoglan who wears ankle weights as well as boots. 🤯
Mr. Lavigne, you are a sheer joy to watch reacting to metal songs. Keep up the great work!
Man, my respect that you are willing and able to dive this deep into the rabbit hole. Many people who react to metal video’s choose Nightwish or Unleash the Archers. While both bands are really great, this is another level. It’s great to see someone with your musical background pick up upon what’s so special about this band. I really enjoyed this. Thanks. 👍🏻
The vocalist, Jens Kidman is 54 years old and still making those sounds like he was 25. Incredible talent and preservation of his voice.
He’s a fucking badass right!
Tomas is truly a pioneer of poly-rhythmic technique. An absolute machine. Full intensity from start to finish.
Now imagine playing a whole album with give or take 50 minutes of play time written like this. These guys are some of the best to ever do it in the genre.
This is one of those songs I feel that musicians make to impress other musicians.
On the surface it doesn't seem that complex to the average listener... but in reality there is so much going on that it takes multiple listening to take it all in.
And if you go see them live they do this for 2 hours straight. perfectly. It's absolutely insane
Another note in favor of Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope, it was included in the curriculum at the Sydney Conservatory. From Metalstorm.net:
'Professor Hindson commented: "I will be presenting 'And Plague Flowers The Kaleidoscope' to the composition students at the Conservatorium next semester as an exemplar in structure, mixing timbres, meters, modes, how to approach virtuosity, sound and noise, extended performance and techniques. The students will need to study 2 technical aspects of what Ne Obliviscaris have done in their music, and then use these techniques in their own classical music compositions"'
You're brave Ken, not a lot of people can handle going into Meshuggah cold. They can be overwhelming...good thing you understand polyrhythms.
Dancers to a discordent system is an amazing song from Meshuggah, with truelly mesmerizing lyrics
8:04
SOCKS!!
He’s definitely one of my favorite metal drummers of all time. In the top 5 for sure. Maybe even top 3.
I highly recommend Periphery's "Satellites" for another metal monday. The singing is astonishing.
I think what confuses a lot of people on the timing is Haake is playing straight 4/4 timing up top and a rolling 23/16 on the kicks for the majority of the song.
What? It's basically a variation of a 3 against 4 polyrhythm. The emphasis of the kicks (in the beginning) is on every dotted eight note (same length as 3 16th notes), but instead of just dotted eight notes he plays hertas. So for every 3 quarter notes there are 4 hertas on the basedrum but (and there you were right) the song is in 4/4.
I don't understand how you came up with 23/16.
Um this is a 3/4 polyrythmn my guy, I'm not sure how you got 23/16?
If you bothered to look it up, it's A poly rhythm of 4/4 over 23/16 bimeter, Haake himself breaks it down and discusses it in a doco and in different interviews. I'm no expert in these matters I just enjoy music but i'll take his explanation of his own music over yours I think.
Uh no, the majority of the song is a simple 3 over 4 polyrhythm. There are no 23/16 patterns in Bleed. The section at 4:18 (in this vid) is a 27/16 double bass pattern. Second verse is a 5 over 4 rhythm, the solo is an insane 87/16 pattern, and the breakdown part is a weird offset 48/16 pattern, but there are no 23/16 sections. Haake was probably referring to another song or doesn't remember the time signatures off the top of his head. You don't need to know the technicalities of your music to perform it; its all 'feel' and muscle memory. Just went through the entire song, identified each repeating pattern, counted them up and double and triple checked, and I'm 99% sure there are no 23/16 parts in there.
@@Koivisto147 well there ya go, nuts timings one way or another.
Something even crazier is that it isn't triggered lighting. They have a lighting tech that 'plays' along to the music and taps it out on the lighting desk. Look up meshuggahs lighting tech
Half true, they no longer do it manually, the last few tours have all been pre-programmed lights. But yeah for quite a while they had, I believe, Tomas' cousin doing it!
Yeah I didn't believe that until I saw this clip
ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
I think you would enjoy "IEUD" by IGORRR - crazy breaks and two great voices :-) or probably even more "CHEVAL" by IGORRR.
Peace!
yes please IGORRR, or basically anything of that Corpo Mente live session on YT
Igorrr!!!!!! both great suggestions!!
If you’re looking for something mind blowing, try listening to Opeth. They’re a Swedish melodic progressive metal band. Their earlier stuff is pure death metal with loads of growling, but their newer stuff is all clean melodic vocals. For something that showcases both listen to Bleak, from the album Blackwater Park. Absolutely astonishing. Love the channel by the way, keep up the good work! 👍
Stephane Marley so much this. Micke Åkerfeldt is my fav vocalist in metal by far, his range is just mindblowing.
"when ever you think you have a notion of what the beat pattern is, they go and change it!"
This is basically Meshuggah's MO. Every time you think you got it, they take it away. Keeps you constantly on your toes.
Love that hockey analogy comparing the drummer to a goalie, well put 👍🏻
Meshuggah!! So happy you're reviewing one of my fave bands. Bleed is so EPIC, but there are other masterpieces as well. Demiurge, Clockworks, Sinews, Rational Gaze, Corridor I can go on and on. Extreme Progressive Metal at its finest 🤘🤘
There's more so remarkable songs. For example outro in the end of the Straws pulled by random is one of a kind.
These are so fun to watch Ken, thank you.
Now do Meshuggahs ”Clockworks” drum cam! Bleed is a force of nature, Clockworks is more... Meshuggah. :D
The fact that this is a live recording not only the video but of the music is just unbelievable.
This makes me happy.
fantastic reaction!
Great video! On the socks, from what has been said by Thomas and his spouse in interviews and posts, the socks he uses are a specific brand that he got very used to... and then they went out of business.
They proceeded to buy up a HUGE supply of these to try and have enough to get through the rest of his career without having to change.
I love this channel. This is the third reaction I've watched from this guy. Every time I watch a video.. I like this channel a little more.
You know whats cool for us metal heads, is that when we go to work, and we listen to things like what they create.... work gets done.
That song soothes my soul.
I love this reaction. Your enjoyment is making me happy =) I respect you taking the time to watch this. Death metal is my wheelhouse so seeing a fresh listener is invigorating!
What an amazing live band too, the sheer precision of everything. Incomprehensible yet Immaculate.
Love the metal Monday’s!! You should definitely check out the band Lamb of God. I’d recommend the song “now you’ve got something to die for” and live of course. On of the best heavy metal vocalists ever. Lots of energy and passion, drives the crowd berserk!
Haake spent more time learning this track after writing it than he spent on all the new tracks on their newest album. Dudes a machine.
Good reaction 🤘.. Clockwork
Respect to you for react to this masterpiece
Oh no. I'm so excited to see his reaction to Meshuggah 🤣 Who recommended this?! I'm a huge fan but maybe he isn't ready 😂
Edit: lol I said this before watching and he literally said "I was not ready." 😭
Ice Kold Killa - I did, last week. go back to the Danny Carey video and I suggested if he likes that, he should watch this. 🤘🏻😁 glad he excepted.
@@shotaholic1 Man, I fucking love Meshuggah but I would've eased him in. Still an epic video. Tomas is absolutely amazing.
Love those catchfrases, fun to watch and good reactions. Keep up the good work. You'll be a metal-head in no-time!
Amazing video dude!
To keep that same bass drum pattern for that long is incredible.
I've watched every reaction video to Bleed, it will never get old 💯🤘🔥
The most intense reaction to Bleed I’ve ever seen! Great man! Now you have met the king of polyrhythms. 🤘
it's maybe not the best song to start your journey with Meshuggah and fully understand their genius
To appreciate this drummer you really have to look at what time each hand is playing as well as the feet. The amazing part is the wrap around in the guitar still matching time with the kicks. Incredible drummer
Now do Gojira- Heaviest Matter In The Universe or Le'Enfant Savauge! Or anything by Gojira, you won't be disappointed 😁
"The gift of guilt" is a masterpiece!
Gojira are like a perfect gateway to the heavier world of metal. At least they were for me :P
Best sounding live band I've ever heard. They do sound equal, or even better than on their albums. Also, the guitarsolo is from the album, though slightly different. I guess he's playing it, but adding in new "top of his head, into the moment" rinkles.
Great reaction.
This solo is improvised as is the one on the record. Fredrik Thordendal strictly improvises guitar solos.
@@drumkidstu well, I'm not gonna argue. I don't know enough about music notes to have an arguement. I do know Meshuggah's music pretty good to hear that the solo is different, but in general, it's about the same lines as he does on the album version.
I applaud you. Meshuggah can be a tough listen for first-timers.
They were one of the first bands to pioneer the whole "synching every pick-stroke to a kick-drum" thing.
Huge respect to you bro for checking out a band that is so out of your wheelhouse. Great video.
Tomas writes all of the lyrics as well... the dude is a beast.
As a vocal coach, you might be interested in Nevermore. They broke up some time ago, and, unfortunately, their former vocalist, Warrel Dane, passed away about two years ago. He's still one of my favorites and mixes many different styles of singing.
"Dreaming Neon Black", "The Learning", "Sentient 6" or "Born" are all good choices for hearing some of his vocal ability.
This is my cup of metal in the morning 🤘🤘
Gotta watch Meshuggah Clock Works drum cam! So insane
Loved the video
Kudos.
Haha! Great reaction! “I wan take up drums so that I can quit in disgust when I realize I’m never going to be that good” ... that mirrors my own thoughts on taking up singing when I hear great singers... or any other musical instrument for that matter.
I love the openmindedness, if that is even a word.
Oh if we're going Haake, you've GOT to do Clockworks, it's an absolute masterpiece in drumming excellence.
Meshuggah is unique in how the progression of each instrument (vocals included) through their songs is a caustic serpentine journey with each instrument falling in and out of the beat. Just when you think they have come together the bass or the the guitar or the vocals falls it into its own rhythm while the drums relentless drives it’s own changes and syncopated beats. One of the most brutal sounds in metal 🤘
Great reaction! Meshuggah is a huge rabbit hole. You'd be into Haken, they have similar rhythmic qualities but they incorporate a lot of melody and harmony. I recommend Carousel from their new album Virus.
Thomas is always next level!
Tomas Haake is a master of beatpatterns. Very few can do what he does!
Great reaction!!
I can only recommend you have a look at "MESHUGGAH - Clockworks (DRUM PLAYTHROUGH w/ TOMAS HAAKE)" as well...somehow I doubt you will be disappointed ;)
Like someone said: 'Meshuggah is like listening to an optical illusion"
Always fun to watch the uninitiated witness Haake's perpetual foot herta thing thru this! :)
You totally remind me of the music teacher from my school. Which is awesome. Keep up the videos!
their guitarist Fredrik Thordendal improvizes every live solo!
Drumming on another Level for sure :)
I love watching non-metal people react to metal. What i love about metal is it's complexity, and also that it takes physical stamina to play it. To fight through the lactic acid that builds in your picking hand, and knowing all your bandmates are also dealing with it, but you know if you give up you ruin everything so you fight through it. There's a reason, aside from the sheer power and aggression the music produces that metal players faces often look like their angry or in pain. It's difficult.
You better keep doing these metal Mondays
I cannot get enough of this reaction video. (y)
Your sincerity and enthusiasm is so wonderful, thank you Ken! Love your videos. Keep em coming. Where can I send recommendations for you to check out?
I read that it took six months for Tomas to learn the whole syncopation
Us mortals don't stand a chance
I love your channel
Try "DIR EN GREY - Macabre Live Tabula Rasa 2013" , Japanese band. 16min of pure perfomance art, even more impressive that he was sick and had a wild fever when he played that show.
things i cant understand:
1- how radio or tv works
2- evolution
3-Bleed's entire drum section
:D
And the guys is 50 years old, and clockworks even more crazy!
Natural LifeStyle Training Honestly, Bleed really isn’t THAT crazy outside of the endurance. Compositionally, Clockworks blows it out of the water.
I think someone just became a metal head!🤘 great reaction!
The thing about metal is that it's about exploring the boundaries of human emotion, of musicality, of composition, of ability. It's about pushing, pushing and pushing into the unknown.
It took them like 3 months to rehearse this song before it was flawless. So much work and dedication put into a song, gotta love it.