The frustration that Gon is going through is so viceral and real, the realization that even a monster as bloodthirsty as Pitou can do good absolutely breaks his flawed sense of morality
Exactly. Without spoiling what follows after this, it always makes me feel slightly disappointed when reactors see THOSE scenes and get swept up in hype when it is really just a quiet tragedy. From this video I think Alicia is feeling the vibes I'm refering to, but we have yet to see. Through the entire series Gon has been very black and white, as you say. Good or bad, right or wrong, A or B, truth or lies... He hasn't learned nuance yet and he is not in the mental state to learn right now.
I love the line of "this person is someone who's important to someone important to me" from Pitou so much. It is hard to describe exactly why, but it gets at a certain level of human empathy that I don't think I see comes up super often in storytelling. Also I love how it parallels Ikalgo's "she's a friend of a friend, so she's my friend too!" from I think last episode when he is thinking about Palm, a character he has never even met before.
It's empathy, Pitou doesn't share the same feelings for Komugi but she sympathizes and cares about Meruem's feelings toward her. Ironically not at all exclusive to humans but it's often where we see "humanity" in the cruelty of nature, to me Pitou being a cat emphasizes the perspective; cats will torture their prey but they still care for their friends and family. I like the parallel for Gon too, it's the philosophy he's lived by up to this point and what he yells at Nobunaga for. "You can cry for your friends but what about your thousands of victims?" Gon is now no different and has no one mature enough to guide him through that anger, stopping here means betraying Kite, attacking blindly means betraying himself, he won't betray Kite.
Broo, why does Alicia want Gon to be evil Also, no, they never said Bro is faster than a Cheetah, they said he's got more Stamina. Which, to be honest, isn't thaat high of a bar and i'm sure plenty regular athletes in the real world can say the same considering cheetahs Stamina kinda sucks, but still.
I love Cheetu, he is the perfect example of everything you SHOULDN’T do as a nen user and it’s so funny seeing him just get one-shot in his one final mistake.
And him being a Conjurer is the cherry on top. Conjurers, Manipulators and Specialists are supposed to be naturally smarter than most people from the other three nen types.
"oh yeah I will have this ability because it sounds cool" doesn't even understand his own power and limited his own speciality "okay I will summon this kind of weapon" it's weaker than something he can already did freely "I will keep being carefree even though my ass was beaten non stop"
@@stormwindsakuro8678 and then they pair him against Morel, who arguably has one of the most intelligent, well thought out, abilities in the series, it’s amazing.
To be fair, he actually *tried* to listen to Morel's advice and keep his eyes on his opponent so he wouldn't be caught off guard again. But that's about the extent of his "growth".
One of the fun aspects of this arc is seeing Meruem and Gon parallel each others arcs as one slowly gains his humanity the other progressively loses it. It's great and is a nice microcosm of this entire arcs main theme which I can't say much about since it's not over yet and I'm sure she'll be able to at least partially pick up on it as we get further in.
I stg both of them don't even bother to read the subs at all, and it shows. There was a scene about Knuckle's past the narrator was explaining and they missed that, I believe. Where Knuckle was running from the cops since elementary, I think.
In case it wasn't obvious alredy, Gon's entire worldview and morality is that of a child. Very black and white, if not downright psychopathic, to a frightening degree. The idea that a monster like Pitou could care about someone else just because someone else she alredy cares for also does just doesn't compute in his head. Similar to how he only cared about Kite because he's the closest thing to a father figure he's ever had, and he was a connection to his father, he saw Pitou as just a boogeyman that needed to be hunted down and killed
The scary thing about Gon in this is not cause of how he's treating Pitou, cause frankly she had it coming. What makes it scary is that Gon is putting an innocent person's life on the line for vengeance, and not even his best friend can stop him.
I think Knuckle's character shows how empathy can be a double edged sword. He forms intense and close connections to people, but that can lead to him throwing out reason in favor of prioritizing those he's close to.
He's very much like earlier Netero and Zeno in that way. "If we abandon out humanity for our mission, our real objective is lost." Not necessarily a double edged sword, but just complicated. Friend of mine described it best by saying "double edged sword implies the only thing a sword can do is hurt either you or them."
the way they made Gon the beam of sunshine become the one with the darkest heart and Killua the murderer born and raised Assasin as the purest of heart is amazing. It's such a good showcase of these boys being much more than meets the eye. Gon has always had this crazy darkness in him, it just came out in small ways. But now its at the forefront, he is selfish, calous and does not care about anyone he does not like.
Together, they form a symbolic _Taijitu:_ A balance of opposites. The Yin-Yang is a representation of this concept. And each paired concept, Light/Dark, Hot/Cold, High/Low, etc.; contains the "seed" of its opposite.
I kind of hate how people interpret Gon as being evil, or as you said, having the "darkest" heart just because he turned out to be a bit more complex than the standard shonen protagonist. Like we get it... gon isn't the one note ray of sunshine that is presented in the begining... that doesn't mean that he's evil... or a sociopath... or lacks a moral compass... or has a "dark heart"... or is a selfish callous person that doesn't care about anyone he doesn't like... he's a naive kid who's through some screwed up stuff and is having a mental breakdown due to losing someone important to him and having his world view shattered. I mean... the fact that he actually listens to killua and doesn't off Pitou then and there despite his mental state should attest to that.
think about the entire raid this way...its all happening at the same time, so of course time will move slower for us, the viewers...since we see multiple points of view that all happen at the same time.
This is a Rant about Cheetu and his potential ⬇️ I’ll keep it simple Cheetu is an idiot or more simple minded so his nen ability should have reflected his nature. He had a complicated ability and setting rules for it which led to his downfall and even made a useless weapon when his back was against the wall. Now if he was just an enhancer and just focused on his strengths he would have been a deadly opponent. Best example Enhancing his legs to not only make him faster but deliver devastating sharp kicks
I saw an interesting point once that Cheetu's ability was perfectly crafted, but for Poufs purpose. Pouf gave Cheetu an ability that would stall the enemy for a large amount of time, which is the only thing Pouf wanted from him. Plus, since it cant be reused, it could never be used against the king, which there would be a small chance of if he got an ability that actually fit him. So he purposefully wasted Cheetu's full potential to use him as fodder against the enemy, which i think is pretty cool
i'm on knuckle side for this episode, what is the point of saving the world if your lost all of your values in the process and didn't try saving what's important to you, if you're not respecting your own moral? and he doesn't has more speed than a cheetah, he has more endurance at full speed...
@@hoozzahgames9209 like you said, thoses words are other words and not what i said. If you don't follow what you value, you'll be someone who justify his act by "the end justifies the means". Well, your value can be that in fact and there is nothing wrong with it. But i prefer trying by staying true to myself even if that means i have less chances to succeed.
@@josualdpic9184 that's cool man, as you long as you understand you would be sacrificing billions of people to hold your ideals, we are talking about a specific scenario where a guy decided to risk billions of life cause him and his friend were slighted, not a "ending justifies the means" scenario. That's what you said you agree with. If you were in Knuckle's position and still believe that's correct, go ahead, I'm sure your family would be glad to know you would let them die but at least you had catharsis before that
@@hoozzahgames9209 You absolute clown. In this scenario, there arent a lot of options for Knuckle right now ANYWAY. Whats he gonna do besides fight Youpi? What exactly? Tell me
@@hoozzahgames9209 i'ts not the right decision, but it's an understandable one. And it's not about "their worth as a man" like alicia said, it's about having some worth as a human being, they both believe they matter and will not feel like they won while being treated that way, they wouldn't be able to continue living after that. Of course it's the wrong choice since it's selfish af, and in the grand scheme of things everyone on our side can die and it will not matter, even gon and killua. As long as the king dies then that's a win for humanity, but this is about more than just that.
I like the addition of Knuckle valuing his feelings over the world. This “irrationality” has been shown briefly before but here it’s fully open and used in a scenario where a “rational” person would never prioritize their feelings. There’s just something very innately human and something real about prioritizing your feelings over overwhelmingly rational actions
This is my favorite part about designing a protagonist. Setting up their morals, then breaking the character apart to the limit. This is why I like the protagonists of Hunter X Hunter, Jujutsu Kaisen, My Hero Academia, and One Piece as well
Cheetu is a rare, but perfect, example of what happens when someone just straight up uses Nen poorly. The guy legitimately just kept creating abilities that were completely antithetical to his nature or strengths because he didn't actually think them through
Alicia: "I kind of want a young blood to snap..." (Togashi will remember that) P.S. Fuck the world, my best bro was insulted after he put in effort and improved himself.
Good people can do evil things, bad people can do good things, a monster can become more human and a human can become a monster, that's the core of this arc
Always loved the parallels between Gon and Meruem & Pitou and Killua. Gon and Meruem are both considered Diamonds to all that follow them. A purity so bright that can also be dyed the Darkest Black. The fact that Meruem is in a state of caring for another and Gon literally cloaked in an Aura of Darkness shows how they are currently in their opposite perceived personas. As for Killua and Pitou, they are practically the same type of character: An Emissary of Darkness when we first met them with 0 remorse for killing others, yet once their “Light” was introduced to them they’ve devoted their entirety to them even going as far as doing deeds they normally wouldn’t have done in any other circumstances like helping another or saving a life. The fact that Killua in his goof mode is portrayed as a Cat and Pitou has Cat like features is just a bonus.
It's some of the best voice acting imaginable, like the VA is just screaming like a madman but she still manages to keep the voice completely recognizable
No! Not at any point in time did the narrator say that Knuckle was as fast as a cheetah! His STAMINA was compared to that of a cheetah while running at full speed. Driving me crazy that you keep referencing something that was never said!
Ganging up on Azula would have just lead to further conflict: it would have left the legitimacy of the takeover in contention and split the Fire Nation over it. By settling it "according to the rules", he showed that he did it the proper way and avoided triggering a massive Civil War. Moreover, as Iroh had stated before, even that, on its own, may not have been enough. Iroh himself had the opportunity to challenge and defeat his brother and take back the inheritance by force, but declined it because of the message it would send. His council was that The Avatar _must_ be the one to defeat Ozai so that it's a matter of bringing Balance back to the world, rather than merely an internal political struggle. So, between Zuko and Azula, he handled the political side of the conflict while Aang handled the spiritual side of things. Zuko began following the rules, and it was Azula who broke them, targeting Zuko's second, Katara. And when Zuko had to _literally_ jump in to save her and she took over the fight for him, she "beat Azula at her own game" by out-witting her. You recall that line Azula threw at Long Feng in Ba Sing Se? *Long Feng:* You've beaten me at my own game... *Azula:* Don't flatter yourself; you were never even a player. Katara, however... was _indeed_ a player. And Azula got herself *played.* She lost in _every_ way that was important to her: she lost in control to her friends, authority to her father, in power to Zuko, and lastly in wits to Katara. Zuko was *using* his Honor _to_ fight for the world in general, and the Fire Nation in particular.
it was not about protecting his honor or some shit like that, he did it because he knew he could win against azula on his own, and wanted to di it the right way. If zuko still wanted to "regain his honor" then he would've wanted to take down the firelord himself, fuck it he would've killed him with his own lightning back in the throne room.
Well, that whole situation with Knuckle is kind of similar to Netero and Zeno refusing to move on/attack the king as he was "grieving". There are just some principles you can't cross, no matter how dire the situation. That quality is very human. I appreciate Alicia's view, though. She must be a humanitarian in nature.
When Pitou killed Kite she was just born. And so she didn't have time to emotionally developed, killing kite was like a cat killing a rat for fun. Now that she developed emotionally to the point shes basically human its not as black and white
116 is probably my favorite episode of the entire series. It's got what might be the best voice acting performance I've ever heard from Gon, and it's just so unbelievably good. Having episode after episode jumping all over the place, and then having a full one-scene episode focusing entirely on Gon & Killua before going back to the rest of the chaos was such a good idea, and showing just how frustrated Gon is in this episode is so great. Remember, this aired weekly, so Kite died in episode 83 or so, meaning it was about 8 months between then and this episode, and then another 15 weeks before the conclusion of the fight. That was absolutely intentional; the audience is made to wait like Gon did, unable to do anything to get any sort of closure. It's so brilliantly done.
I like the time dilation in HxH though, because it is entirely congruent with the personal anecdotes of the oldest and most experienced fighter's in-universe: Killua's Grandpa Zeno and the Chairman Netero. Zeno mulls over the rare occurrence in his line of work where extreme conflict seems to slow time down and the combatants get practically communicate telepathically as this unique phenomenon that even he almost never gets to experience. Meanwhile, Netero has his whole cutaway to his prayer and punch regimen that he followed for years which showed that at the peak of mastery time can flow in aberrational ways. These two in-universe asides really make the shonen phenomenon of needing to cram a lot of writing and action into a very small time-frame feel like a (super)natural part of the world, and mirror some of the personal experiences of real people high on adrenaline (though to a much more extreme). Which makes it much less immersion breaking than something like Frieza saying the planet has 5 minutes left before multiple episode of fighting (though presumably Toriyama was also using fight-time-dilation logic, there just was never a moment where a veteran contemplated the phenomenon in-universe if I remember correctly).
One of the best parts of yhis arc, especially the invasion, is that every fight and interaction is absolutely dripping with character. Every decision, every momentum swing is punctuated either by a bit of character development, or by an exhibition of a major character flaw. We have seen all arc long how emotional and empathetic Knuckle is. Think back to when he was frustrated that he couldnt do anything for the citizens of East Gorteau. It was only with Shoot calming him down and talking sense into him that reigned him in. Now, hes in a similar situation, where the suffering of another is causing him to make rash decisions. However, now Shoot isn't reigning him in. In stark contrast, Shoot is now encouraging Knuckle to go with his emotions, and that only serves to reinforce Knuckle's decision-making. Magnificent writing.
how do you 2 manage to get the wildest prediction right the one day....and just never listen to what is being said. or only understanding half of what is said the other day.
By far one of the amazing things in this arc is how despicable they show the Chimera Ants at first. So yhen by the time the palice invasion happens you do a compleate 180 and feel compleate empathy for them as the Hunters (who are extremely outclassed) just manage to outfox them just enough with luck, manipulation and cruelty. By the end of this arc or heroes become monsters and our villans seem sympathetic... Masterful writing~
Focusing on the wrong part of Knuckles argument. Screw why he is doing it and realize what those 2 attacks can accomplish if it works out. Each hit brings Youpi closer to bust where he is then a sitting duck. For honor bad reason; but for honor when it still advances the real priority... now that's the right thing to do. Interest builds slow so if you can add 500 a hit then 2 hits is a 1000 and if the current value is barely around a thousand then 2 hits doubles the base. making the interest that much worse.
The straight disrespect from both of you telling Killua to stfu was foul. He's simply trying to de-escalate the situation as he's figuring out what's going on in front of him. Also, I don't get why you guys want Gon to go nuts and kill Komugi in the process. I like her. Y'all are mad.
They are shounen fans, only interested in fighting is absolutely destruction. While hunterxhunter is not shounen it's shounen destruction. Tbh idk what I expected from someone who loves one piece
@@matthewlugo2417 Even as someone who loves One Piece, I enjoy both series respectively and avoid favoring one over the other. Alicia gets too brainrot sometimes and it diverts her away from the reaction she's doing. It's frustrating.
That was a very beautiful moment of weakness for Knuckle imo, kinda sad how they're just making fun of it. I didn't expect them to just dismiss his feelings like that, instead of actually understanding his character more.
I mean he's dead, but to be fair they didn't say Knuckle was *faster* than a cheetah, but that he had more *endurance*, so he can just run for a very long time lol.
also am i stupid or did u guys cut out the parts where gon is like "probably? most likely? you want me to wait because of "probably" and "most likely?"" & "you have it easy, killua." or did that happen in a different episode??
I love that Knuckle's top priority is his friend's honor rather than the safety of humanity. Fuck the greater good, Shoot didn't deserve to be done dirty like that
It said he had more stamina than a cheetah, not speed. Which, honestly, is a terrible comparison in the first place. Cheetahs notoriously have shit stamina. They run fast, but can't maintain it for long. They should've went with something actually known for stamina like a horse or something.
Hoping that Gon mercs a blind girl as collateral, whilst claiming the moral highground when Knuckle, in a moment of weakness selfishly risks the fate of humanity by taking revenge on his battle buddy is absolutely wild. Shoot couldn't even work up the courage to fight Killua because of his cowardice in the past, but when it came down to it, every player in the Chimera Ant Squad (including the cowardly Shoot) gave it their 110% to save humanity. It's all too easy to critique Knuckle's personal feelings from an external perspective, but its his emotions which make him so strong and lovable as a fighter and character. The fact that these people stepped up to take on the King and his Royal Guard already would place humanity in their debt. Defending your friend's honour is a lapse in judgement which Knuckle and Shoot are aware of, but they're human and are apologetic for it. Shoot and Knuckle were assigned to fight Youpi. Knuckle fighting Youpi isn't the problem. Being clouded by revenge to take the fight to Youpi, instead of maintaing a "war of attrition" tactic using APR is the error.
(not speaking about honor, but about sacrifie here), but that inspire me : --> The world can die. Don't count on me. I can help, I can participate, be a good boy and the world has 1 more good boy in it. But i won't sacrifice 1 single crisps for saving the world. The world can die... and then if there is something after this life, we just can continue what is after.... but the world is not worth any real sacrifice. Kill 1 innocent person that doesn't want to be sacrifice VS the world ---> The world can die for me... nobody has to be sacrified.... then if there is an afterlife, people will just have to accept that you don't sacrifice people, and you have your eternity to redo a world. Sacrifice 1 person, and your eternity will have this sacrifice idea that will carry for the etenity : > >.... > --> Just let the world die, and if there is life after life, you have the eternity to do shit.... if there is not, Eh... why care to live for 100 years, then the eternity is nothing.... so it's a win-win situation
But it's the same for "honor"... it's not even honor... it's just --> Hey I want to do this... in this instant, it's more "important" to do this thing for me or my friend... I will help the world after that, fuclk it. I can 100% understand that.
17:38 So there you have it. They know Illumi put a needle in his head. They knew he was manipulated and did nothing. Why do people still think that the Zoldyck love and care for him? Right here, you learn that they knew that their golden boy was brainwashed and let it happen. How can you still try to pretend this family isn’t toxic?
Something that occurs to me after you made the comparison; is Pitou actually a terrible person? Outisde of loyalty to the King, they have essentially displayed that they have the instincts and mannerisms of a cat; the actions taken are more from curiosity than malice
Im so glad Alicia feels the same way about Knuckles dumbass decision. I love Knuckle but I almost dont because of this and one other dumbass shounen move coming up.
I’m really conflicted with this arc. I think gon geting this mad over kite is dumb he knew kite for like a week. Also Gon being so caring then becoming like a sociopath just doesn’t sit right with me but on the other hand it was cool tho
I've hated Gon ever since I watched this scene, he's so selfish and immature, an innocent girl was hurt BECAUSE OF THEIR SIDE, and he doesn't give a fuck about her, even threatening to kill her. This arc is basically Gon becoming a monster while Meruem becomes a human
It's fair to judge Gon and call him out on what he was about to do, but he obviously isn't on his right mind anymore. He's struggling with a big baggage since he thinks that what happened to Kite is something he must fix, he has been preparing for this moment ever since NGL, this moment to have his revenge, and then what happens?, the monster is trying to help someone in need. It was the same with the phantom troupe, Gon can't seem to understand that bad people are still people, that they can still care for others despite everything they've done, he is overwhelmed by his feelings and can't even control himself. Was he right to do it? Absolutely not, it just goes to show what happens when you focus so much on revenge over everything else
He was always selfish, immature and many times inconsiderate to what others felt. As Zepeli (the con artist and appraiser) said about Gon: "I understand now why this kid interests me... he doesn't care about right or wrong. He opens his mind to everything that impresses him, be them right or wrong... Which means that he's dangerous!"
I never liked Gon as an MC, since the first arc. His overall selfish and brattyness mindset never came of an endearing to me. The whole he is just a kid argument is meh because we have nothing but young characters specially with Killua being his contrast. This ep to me solidified everything I always felt about Gon since starting the anime.
@@luisjauregui2197 Congrats, you explained what it is, but here's the thing, I understood what he was going through from the start, does it justify what he did? Hell no
Always fascinating to see how people react to Gon especially since I think I’m in the minority opinion of not liking Gon. So I always have to remind myself why people would want Gon to just murder Pitou outright. I really don’t think arc will play out how they hope. Edit: in terms of the knuckle thing yeah masculinity is a real bastard.
The frustration that Gon is going through is so viceral and real, the realization that even a monster as bloodthirsty as Pitou can do good absolutely breaks his flawed sense of morality
Exactly. Without spoiling what follows after this, it always makes me feel slightly disappointed when reactors see THOSE scenes and get swept up in hype when it is really just a quiet tragedy. From this video I think Alicia is feeling the vibes I'm refering to, but we have yet to see.
Through the entire series Gon has been very black and white, as you say. Good or bad, right or wrong, A or B, truth or lies... He hasn't learned nuance yet and he is not in the mental state to learn right now.
Remember what Kite said about encountering an enemy that does care about others.
I love the line of "this person is someone who's important to someone important to me" from Pitou so much. It is hard to describe exactly why, but it gets at a certain level of human empathy that I don't think I see comes up super often in storytelling. Also I love how it parallels Ikalgo's "she's a friend of a friend, so she's my friend too!" from I think last episode when he is thinking about Palm, a character he has never even met before.
It's empathy, Pitou doesn't share the same feelings for Komugi but she sympathizes and cares about Meruem's feelings toward her. Ironically not at all exclusive to humans but it's often where we see "humanity" in the cruelty of nature, to me Pitou being a cat emphasizes the perspective; cats will torture their prey but they still care for their friends and family.
I like the parallel for Gon too, it's the philosophy he's lived by up to this point and what he yells at Nobunaga for. "You can cry for your friends but what about your thousands of victims?" Gon is now no different and has no one mature enough to guide him through that anger, stopping here means betraying Kite, attacking blindly means betraying himself, he won't betray Kite.
Broo, why does Alicia want Gon to be evil
Also, no, they never said Bro is faster than a Cheetah, they said he's got more Stamina. Which, to be honest, isn't thaat high of a bar and i'm sure plenty regular athletes in the real world can say the same considering cheetahs Stamina kinda sucks, but still.
I love Cheetu, he is the perfect example of everything you SHOULDN’T do as a nen user and it’s so funny seeing him just get one-shot in his one final mistake.
And him being a Conjurer is the cherry on top.
Conjurers, Manipulators and Specialists are supposed to be naturally smarter than most people from the other three nen types.
"oh yeah I will have this ability because it sounds cool" doesn't even understand his own power and limited his own speciality
"okay I will summon this kind of weapon" it's weaker than something he can already did freely
"I will keep being carefree even though my ass was beaten non stop"
Cheetu had one braincell and it couldn't run as fast as him
@@stormwindsakuro8678 and then they pair him against Morel, who arguably has one of the most intelligent, well thought out, abilities in the series, it’s amazing.
To be fair, he actually *tried* to listen to Morel's advice and keep his eyes on his opponent so he wouldn't be caught off guard again. But that's about the extent of his "growth".
One of the fun aspects of this arc is seeing Meruem and Gon parallel each others arcs as one slowly gains his humanity the other progressively loses it. It's great and is a nice microcosm of this entire arcs main theme which I can't say much about since it's not over yet and I'm sure she'll be able to at least partially pick up on it as we get further in.
My favorite allusion to that is the fact that in this episode Gon sits down to wait in the same position Meruem does when he plays Gungi.
The narrator didn't say knuckle was faster than cheetu he said he had higher stamina than him...
The narrator didn't say anything about Cheetu, he said Knuckle had higher stamina than a cheetah.
My bad, you're right, I misread that XD
The irony of my comment lol@@Awsomeman328
I stg both of them don't even bother to read the subs at all, and it shows. There was a scene about Knuckle's past the narrator was explaining and they missed that, I believe. Where Knuckle was running from the cops since elementary, I think.
Pleading for gon to essentially murder a little girl was not on my bingo card.
In case it wasn't obvious alredy, Gon's entire worldview and morality is that of a child.
Very black and white, if not downright psychopathic, to a frightening degree. The idea that a monster like Pitou could care about someone else just because someone else she alredy cares for also does just doesn't compute in his head.
Similar to how he only cared about Kite because he's the closest thing to a father figure he's ever had, and he was a connection to his father, he saw Pitou as just a boogeyman that needed to be hunted down and killed
The scary thing about Gon in this is not cause of how he's treating Pitou, cause frankly she had it coming. What makes it scary is that Gon is putting an innocent person's life on the line for vengeance, and not even his best friend can stop him.
I think Knuckle's character shows how empathy can be a double edged sword. He forms intense and close connections to people, but that can lead to him throwing out reason in favor of prioritizing those he's close to.
He's very much like earlier Netero and Zeno in that way. "If we abandon out humanity for our mission, our real objective is lost." Not necessarily a double edged sword, but just complicated. Friend of mine described it best by saying "double edged sword implies the only thing a sword can do is hurt either you or them."
the way they made Gon the beam of sunshine become the one with the darkest heart
and Killua the murderer born and raised Assasin as the purest of heart is amazing.
It's such a good showcase of these boys being much more than meets the eye. Gon has always had this crazy darkness in him, it just came out in small ways. But now its at the forefront, he is selfish, calous and does not care about anyone he does not like.
Together, they form a symbolic _Taijitu:_ A balance of opposites. The Yin-Yang is a representation of this concept. And each paired concept, Light/Dark, Hot/Cold, High/Low, etc.; contains the "seed" of its opposite.
I kind of hate how people interpret Gon as being evil, or as you said, having the "darkest" heart just because he turned out to be a bit more complex than the standard shonen protagonist.
Like we get it... gon isn't the one note ray of sunshine that is presented in the begining... that doesn't mean that he's evil... or a sociopath... or lacks a moral compass... or has a "dark heart"... or is a selfish callous person that doesn't care about anyone he doesn't like... he's a naive kid who's through some screwed up stuff and is having a mental breakdown due to losing someone important to him and having his world view shattered. I mean... the fact that he actually listens to killua and doesn't off Pitou then and there despite his mental state should attest to that.
@@UnspecifiedweebNobody say that Gon is evil.🤷🏿♂️
think about the entire raid this way...its all happening at the same time, so of course time will move slower for us, the viewers...since we see multiple points of view that all happen at the same time.
This is a Rant about Cheetu and his potential ⬇️
I’ll keep it simple Cheetu is an idiot or more simple minded so his nen ability should have reflected his nature. He had a complicated ability and setting rules for it which led to his downfall and even made a useless weapon when his back was against the wall. Now if he was just an enhancer and just focused on his strengths he would have been a deadly opponent. Best example Enhancing his legs to not only make him faster but deliver devastating sharp kicks
I saw an interesting point once that Cheetu's ability was perfectly crafted, but for Poufs purpose. Pouf gave Cheetu an ability that would stall the enemy for a large amount of time, which is the only thing Pouf wanted from him. Plus, since it cant be reused, it could never be used against the king, which there would be a small chance of if he got an ability that actually fit him. So he purposefully wasted Cheetu's full potential to use him as fodder against the enemy, which i think is pretty cool
Did not expect her to be cheering for Gon to lose his mind and cap a blind woman as collateral 😂
Yea she completely missed the point of this arc and this scene
This arc, is in my mind a duality arc, showing gon's descend into becomming a monster. And Meruem's ascend into becomming human.
i'm on knuckle side for this episode,
what is the point of saving the world if your lost all of your values in the process and didn't try saving what's important to you, if you're not respecting your own moral?
and he doesn't has more speed than a cheetah, he has more endurance at full speed...
In other words "Unless it feels nice when I save them, those 7 billion people might as well die, who cares?"
@@hoozzahgames9209 like you said, thoses words are other words and not what i said.
If you don't follow what you value, you'll be someone who justify his act by "the end justifies the means".
Well, your value can be that in fact and there is nothing wrong with it.
But i prefer trying by staying true to myself even if that means i have less chances to succeed.
@@josualdpic9184 that's cool man, as you long as you understand you would be sacrificing billions of people to hold your ideals, we are talking about a specific scenario where a guy decided to risk billions of life cause him and his friend were slighted, not a "ending justifies the means" scenario. That's what you said you agree with.
If you were in Knuckle's position and still believe that's correct, go ahead, I'm sure your family would be glad to know you would let them die but at least you had catharsis before that
@@hoozzahgames9209 You absolute clown. In this scenario, there arent a lot of options for Knuckle right now ANYWAY. Whats he gonna do besides fight Youpi? What exactly? Tell me
@@hoozzahgames9209 i'ts not the right decision, but it's an understandable one. And it's not about "their worth as a man" like alicia said, it's about having some worth as a human being, they both believe they matter and will not feel like they won while being treated that way, they wouldn't be able to continue living after that. Of course it's the wrong choice since it's selfish af, and in the grand scheme of things everyone on our side can die and it will not matter, even gon and killua. As long as the king dies then that's a win for humanity, but this is about more than just that.
I like the addition of Knuckle valuing his feelings over the world. This “irrationality” has been shown briefly before but here it’s fully open and used in a scenario where a “rational” person would never prioritize their feelings. There’s just something very innately human and something real about prioritizing your feelings over overwhelmingly rational actions
It makes more sense for Morel to stall out Pouf than fight him. That's why he trapped him in the first place.
This is my favorite part about designing a protagonist. Setting up their morals, then breaking the character apart to the limit. This is why I like the protagonists of Hunter X Hunter, Jujutsu Kaisen, My Hero Academia, and One Piece as well
Cheetu is a rare, but perfect, example of what happens when someone just straight up uses Nen poorly. The guy legitimately just kept creating abilities that were completely antithetical to his nature or strengths because he didn't actually think them through
Alicia: "I kind of want a young blood to snap..."
(Togashi will remember that)
P.S. Fuck the world, my best bro was insulted after he put in effort and improved himself.
They said Knuckle's stamina when sprinting at top speed exceeded that of a cheetah, not that his top speed did, ya both read it wrong lmao
Good people can do evil things, bad people can do good things, a monster can become more human and a human can become a monster, that's the core of this arc
This
Always loved the parallels between Gon and Meruem & Pitou and Killua. Gon and Meruem are both considered Diamonds to all that follow them. A purity so bright that can also be dyed the Darkest Black. The fact that Meruem is in a state of caring for another and Gon literally cloaked in an Aura of Darkness shows how they are currently in their opposite perceived personas.
As for Killua and Pitou, they are practically the same type of character: An Emissary of Darkness when we first met them with 0 remorse for killing others, yet once their “Light” was introduced to them they’ve devoted their entirety to them even going as far as doing deeds they normally wouldn’t have done in any other circumstances like helping another or saving a life. The fact that Killua in his goof mode is portrayed as a Cat and Pitou has Cat like features is just a bonus.
remember alica!
YOU ASKED FOR THIS
*THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED!*
Gon snapping with the VA, goes off so hard as one of the best rage moments.
Pure visceral emotion.
It's some of the best voice acting imaginable, like the VA is just screaming like a madman but she still manages to keep the voice completely recognizable
and it only gets more terrifying
I imagine Gon's VA absolutely shredded her vocal chords for that scene.
Gosh, I love Knuckle. He is a honorary JoJo. All confident when in control, but when things go dicey he's doing the Joestar technique.
No! Not at any point in time did the narrator say that Knuckle was as fast as a cheetah! His STAMINA was compared to that of a cheetah while running at full speed. Driving me crazy that you keep referencing something that was never said!
Book 3 Zuko literally chose an honorable 1v1 duel against azula over just ganging up on her with katara. What are you on about?
Ganging up on Azula would have just lead to further conflict: it would have left the legitimacy of the takeover in contention and split the Fire Nation over it. By settling it "according to the rules", he showed that he did it the proper way and avoided triggering a massive Civil War.
Moreover, as Iroh had stated before, even that, on its own, may not have been enough. Iroh himself had the opportunity to challenge and defeat his brother and take back the inheritance by force, but declined it because of the message it would send. His council was that The Avatar _must_ be the one to defeat Ozai so that it's a matter of bringing Balance back to the world, rather than merely an internal political struggle.
So, between Zuko and Azula, he handled the political side of the conflict while Aang handled the spiritual side of things. Zuko began following the rules, and it was Azula who broke them, targeting Zuko's second, Katara. And when Zuko had to _literally_ jump in to save her and she took over the fight for him, she "beat Azula at her own game" by out-witting her. You recall that line Azula threw at Long Feng in Ba Sing Se?
*Long Feng:* You've beaten me at my own game...
*Azula:* Don't flatter yourself; you were never even a player.
Katara, however... was _indeed_ a player. And Azula got herself *played.* She lost in _every_ way that was important to her: she lost in control to her friends, authority to her father, in power to Zuko, and lastly in wits to Katara. Zuko was *using* his Honor _to_ fight for the world in general, and the Fire Nation in particular.
it was not about protecting his honor or some shit like that, he did it because he knew he could win against azula on his own, and wanted to di it the right way. If zuko still wanted to "regain his honor" then he would've wanted to take down the firelord himself, fuck it he would've killed him with his own lightning back in the throne room.
Well, that whole situation with Knuckle is kind of similar to Netero and Zeno refusing to move on/attack the king as he was "grieving".
There are just some principles you can't cross, no matter how dire the situation. That quality is very human.
I appreciate Alicia's view, though. She must be a humanitarian in nature.
Alicia asking for gon to snap has to be the funniest thing knowing how she's gonna react when he finally does
It would be cruel to do so but a small part of me is tempted to ask her during that moment. You got what you wanted are you happy now?
If book 3 Zuko didn't care about honour he could have killed Ozai on the day of black sun and saved half a season.
When Pitou killed Kite she was just born. And so she didn't have time to emotionally developed, killing kite was like a cat killing a rat for fun. Now that she developed emotionally to the point shes basically human its not as black and white
116 is probably my favorite episode of the entire series. It's got what might be the best voice acting performance I've ever heard from Gon, and it's just so unbelievably good. Having episode after episode jumping all over the place, and then having a full one-scene episode focusing entirely on Gon & Killua before going back to the rest of the chaos was such a good idea, and showing just how frustrated Gon is in this episode is so great. Remember, this aired weekly, so Kite died in episode 83 or so, meaning it was about 8 months between then and this episode, and then another 15 weeks before the conclusion of the fight. That was absolutely intentional; the audience is made to wait like Gon did, unable to do anything to get any sort of closure. It's so brilliantly done.
I like the time dilation in HxH though, because it is entirely congruent with the personal anecdotes of the oldest and most experienced fighter's in-universe: Killua's Grandpa Zeno and the Chairman Netero. Zeno mulls over the rare occurrence in his line of work where extreme conflict seems to slow time down and the combatants get practically communicate telepathically as this unique phenomenon that even he almost never gets to experience. Meanwhile, Netero has his whole cutaway to his prayer and punch regimen that he followed for years which showed that at the peak of mastery time can flow in aberrational ways. These two in-universe asides really make the shonen phenomenon of needing to cram a lot of writing and action into a very small time-frame feel like a (super)natural part of the world, and mirror some of the personal experiences of real people high on adrenaline (though to a much more extreme). Which makes it much less immersion breaking than something like Frieza saying the planet has 5 minutes left before multiple episode of fighting (though presumably Toriyama was also using fight-time-dilation logic, there just was never a moment where a veteran contemplated the phenomenon in-universe if I remember correctly).
One of the best parts of yhis arc, especially the invasion, is that every fight and interaction is absolutely dripping with character. Every decision, every momentum swing is punctuated either by a bit of character development, or by an exhibition of a major character flaw.
We have seen all arc long how emotional and empathetic Knuckle is. Think back to when he was frustrated that he couldnt do anything for the citizens of East Gorteau. It was only with Shoot calming him down and talking sense into him that reigned him in.
Now, hes in a similar situation, where the suffering of another is causing him to make rash decisions. However, now Shoot isn't reigning him in. In stark contrast, Shoot is now encouraging Knuckle to go with his emotions, and that only serves to reinforce Knuckle's decision-making.
Magnificent writing.
The cathartic feeling after expending all that rage can bring you a certain clarity.
how do you 2 manage to get the wildest prediction right the one day....and just never listen to what is being said. or only understanding half of what is said the other day.
I love 116 so much. Getting that angry but not having an outlet for it just tears you apart inside.
By far one of the amazing things in this arc is how despicable they show the Chimera Ants at first.
So yhen by the time the palice invasion happens you do a compleate 180 and feel compleate empathy for them as the Hunters (who are extremely outclassed) just manage to outfox them just enough with luck, manipulation and cruelty.
By the end of this arc or heroes become monsters and our villans seem sympathetic...
Masterful writing~
Focusing on the wrong part of Knuckles argument.
Screw why he is doing it and realize what those 2 attacks can accomplish if it works out.
Each hit brings Youpi closer to bust where he is then a sitting duck.
For honor bad reason; but for honor when it still advances the real priority... now that's the right thing to do.
Interest builds slow so if you can add 500 a hit then 2 hits is a 1000 and if the current value is barely around a thousand then 2 hits doubles the base. making the interest that much worse.
you guys do remember that Knuckle and shoots mission was to fight Youpi right?
It said the endurance of a cheeta. Cheetas can only run full speed for some seconds. I think it was a joke
The straight disrespect from both of you telling Killua to stfu was foul. He's simply trying to de-escalate the situation as he's figuring out what's going on in front of him. Also, I don't get why you guys want Gon to go nuts and kill Komugi in the process. I like her. Y'all are mad.
They are shounen fans, only interested in fighting is absolutely destruction. While hunterxhunter is not shounen it's shounen destruction. Tbh idk what I expected from someone who loves one piece
@@matthewlugo2417 Even as someone who loves One Piece, I enjoy both series respectively and avoid favoring one over the other. Alicia gets too brainrot sometimes and it diverts her away from the reaction she's doing. It's frustrating.
This episode is what made Pitou my favourite character, peak hunter X hunter
That was a very beautiful moment of weakness for Knuckle imo, kinda sad how they're just making fun of it. I didn't expect them to just dismiss his feelings like that, instead of actually understanding his character more.
every time silva is on screen that clip of that song "daddys home" starts playing
116 is one of my favorite episodes of anime period, let alone HxH
Bisky said it, his way of thinking is a problem and here's why, in this arc the monsters are the humans
When it comes to stamina while running at their top speed, most humans leave cheetah in dust
The reaction to what happens is genuinely going to be very interesting. I need it. But I'm not sure what to expect.
34:42 they didn't get the innuendo 😂
Gons breaking point is one of the most viceral I have seen in anime.
I mean he's dead, but to be fair they didn't say Knuckle was *faster* than a cheetah, but that he had more *endurance*, so he can just run for a very long time lol.
megumi han went craaazy in this episode her performance is so good
also am i stupid or did u guys cut out the parts where gon is like "probably? most likely? you want me to wait because of "probably" and "most likely?"" & "you have it easy, killua." or did that happen in a different episode??
I love that Knuckle's top priority is his friend's honor rather than the safety of humanity. Fuck the greater good, Shoot didn't deserve to be done dirty like that
Knuckle & Shoot: FOR OUR HONOR!!!!!
Zuko: Hello, Zuko Here! First time?
my nourishment for the day has arrived
Alicia want Gon to just be a villain and not kill innocence
It said he had more stamina than a cheetah, not speed. Which, honestly, is a terrible comparison in the first place. Cheetahs notoriously have shit stamina. They run fast, but can't maintain it for long. They should've went with something actually known for stamina like a horse or something.
Every time someone say Pitou the subtitles go crazy
Hoping that Gon mercs a blind girl as collateral, whilst claiming the moral highground when Knuckle, in a moment of weakness selfishly risks the fate of humanity by taking revenge on his battle buddy is absolutely wild.
Shoot couldn't even work up the courage to fight Killua because of his cowardice in the past, but when it came down to it, every player in the Chimera Ant Squad (including the cowardly Shoot) gave it their 110% to save humanity.
It's all too easy to critique Knuckle's personal feelings from an external perspective, but its his emotions which make him so strong and lovable as a fighter and character. The fact that these people stepped up to take on the King and his Royal Guard already would place humanity in their debt. Defending your friend's honour is a lapse in judgement which Knuckle and Shoot are aware of, but they're human and are apologetic for it.
Shoot and Knuckle were assigned to fight Youpi. Knuckle fighting Youpi isn't the problem. Being clouded by revenge to take the fight to Youpi, instead of maintaing a "war of attrition" tactic using APR is the error.
Gon is going through all the stages of depression rn
(not speaking about honor, but about sacrifie here), but that inspire me :
-->
The world can die. Don't count on me. I can help, I can participate, be a good boy and the world has 1 more good boy in it. But i won't sacrifice 1 single crisps for saving the world. The world can die... and then if there is something after this life, we just can continue what is after.... but the world is not worth any real sacrifice.
Kill 1 innocent person that doesn't want to be sacrifice VS the world ---> The world can die for me... nobody has to be sacrified.... then if there is an afterlife, people will just have to accept that you don't sacrifice people, and you have your eternity to redo a world.
Sacrifice 1 person, and your eternity will have this sacrifice idea that will carry for the etenity : > >.... >
--> Just let the world die, and if there is life after life, you have the eternity to do shit.... if there is not, Eh... why care to live for 100 years, then the eternity is nothing.... so it's a win-win situation
But it's the same for "honor"... it's not even honor... it's just --> Hey I want to do this... in this instant, it's more "important" to do this thing for me or my friend... I will help the world after that, fuclk it. I can 100% understand that.
17:38 So there you have it. They know Illumi put a needle in his head. They knew he was manipulated and did nothing. Why do people still think that the Zoldyck love and care for him? Right here, you learn that they knew that their golden boy was brainwashed and let it happen. How can you still try to pretend this family isn’t toxic?
Something that occurs to me after you made the comparison; is Pitou actually a terrible person?
Outisde of loyalty to the King, they have essentially displayed that they have the instincts and mannerisms of a cat; the actions taken are more from curiosity than malice
when you've done with the arc check the infiltration without narrator/thinking scenes, it'll be so hectic lol
we are going to the destination full speed bois lets hope she doesnt lose her mind
But Alicia the bro code tho you have to respect the code
I am excited to for the reaction of 0 tolerance Gon (no spoilers) That part goes hard
Poor Killua.
Gon is a Horrible friend to him 😥
💯 especially in this arc
"Cheetu's never prosper."
Im so glad Alicia feels the same way about Knuckles dumbass decision. I love Knuckle but I almost dont because of this and one other dumbass shounen move coming up.
I’m really conflicted with this arc. I think gon geting this mad over kite is dumb he knew kite for like a week. Also Gon being so caring then becoming like a sociopath just doesn’t sit right with me but on the other hand it was cool tho
I said it before and I'll say it again: Gon isn't like other Shonen Jump protagonists
My baby Killua! 😭
I've hated Gon ever since I watched this scene, he's so selfish and immature, an innocent girl was hurt BECAUSE OF THEIR SIDE, and he doesn't give a fuck about her, even threatening to kill her. This arc is basically Gon becoming a monster while Meruem becomes a human
It's fair to judge Gon and call him out on what he was about to do, but he obviously isn't on his right mind anymore. He's struggling with a big baggage since he thinks that what happened to Kite is something he must fix, he has been preparing for this moment ever since NGL, this moment to have his revenge, and then what happens?, the monster is trying to help someone in need. It was the same with the phantom troupe, Gon can't seem to understand that bad people are still people, that they can still care for others despite everything they've done, he is overwhelmed by his feelings and can't even control himself. Was he right to do it? Absolutely not, it just goes to show what happens when you focus so much on revenge over everything else
He was always selfish, immature and many times inconsiderate to what others felt.
As Zepeli (the con artist and appraiser) said about Gon: "I understand now why this kid interests me... he doesn't care about right or wrong. He opens his mind to everything that impresses him, be them right or wrong... Which means that he's dangerous!"
What you mean immature? he's still a kid a 12 year old boy 😂
I never liked Gon as an MC, since the first arc. His overall selfish and brattyness mindset never came of an endearing to me. The whole he is just a kid argument is meh because we have nothing but young characters specially with Killua being his contrast. This ep to me solidified everything I always felt about Gon since starting the anime.
@@luisjauregui2197 Congrats, you explained what it is, but here's the thing, I understood what he was going through from the start, does it justify what he did? Hell no
Pitou may just now realise how fucked her behavior has been now that the person close to the person close to her is in danger
Exactly the show has amazing writing
There is some satisfaction when Silva killed Cheetu. That dude was annoying.
Always fascinating to see how people react to Gon especially since I think I’m in the minority opinion of not liking Gon.
So I always have to remind myself why people would want Gon to just murder Pitou outright.
I really don’t think arc will play out how they hope.
Edit: in terms of the knuckle thing yeah masculinity is a real bastard.
if gon wouldve attacked anyway pitou wouldve killed him.
Gon wanting komugi dead = Gon is trash. I hope he gets eliminated at some point
Bro what? How old are?
Bro what? how old are you?
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oof can't wait for ep131
Oh my
what the world ever do for me? jk
Knuckle and shoot are toxic masculinity
how? idk why people believe that them thinking they have worth and not wanting to be seen as trash has anything to do with toxic masculinity.
Its not toxic masculinity it's called pride which is something alot of people dont have