For real, you pour your heart and soul out to these people, so it only takes a tiny bit of effort to weaponise that information. Any counsellor sexually involved with their client should have their license revoked. It’s a clear abuse of power over a vulnerable person.
No professional counsellor would ever get involved with his / her client, he should never be allowed to speak with anybody. He’s making up his own rules as he goes , that’s very worrying!!
I'm not so sure. She told him that she left her husband 19 times! In my opinion he probably thought this relationship is nothing more but dead end. However, i would ask her why she doesn't leave him. Might be a bit unprofessional, but her husband isn't a saint either.
You don't understand how a man works honey.. He will get over her but fight til the end then he will forget about her and find a better woman that's the cycle
As a minister, he should never have entered into a relationship with her. NEVER!!! He should have avoided a relationship with that married woman. Disgusting.
This 'counsellor' is lucky he DOESN"T have a certification, because his entire career would have been imploded right here and then. Wonder if the Synagogue wouldn't be liable for not immediately firing him. People don't understand current laws much.
The husband obviously has issues but I don't exactly blame him for how he reacts, and I sympathize with his request not to see his wife choosing another man in front of him.
As a Psychotherapist myself this so-called “Counsellor” appalls me! He has no place working with vulnerable people or being in a position of authority.
“You start talking about enough personal stuff and I’m no longer your counselor anymore” Um, isnt the whole point of a counselor to be able to talk about person issues in your life??
I asked my uncle who’s a counsellor about this issue. I don’t know if this is the rule everywhere, but where we live, in order to have a relationship with your client(Not that you should), you have to close their file and you can’t see or have any contact with them for 2 years. If you meet them again by chance, then it’s no longer considered unethical because they’re not your client anymore. But that’s only the rule in our area.
Would that scripture apply to this religion? .. pretty sure it’s a different god in this case, seems like there’s not much of the real God in any of this program.. all these people are way strange .. 🤪
Their religion is Judaism and this is one of the laws of Abraham aka the Ten Commandments followed both in Christianity and Judaism (I’m not sure if they are also followed in Islam or any other religion)
Speaking from experience the guy probably isn’t an “elder” in the synagogue. When he mentioned “he has it in his bloodline” his family probably went to the Synagogue for x amount of years. A Rabbi wouldn’t joke around about “who’s holier” with him. He’s just a busy-body who spends too much time there that he thinks he’s an elder and everyone’s annoyed with him but they’re being polite to him. He probably went up to her and lied about his position or talked himself up.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Growing up, I knew a bunch of ‘elders’ who were just retirees stuck in everyone else’s business. My mom called one out for putting moves on my recently widowed grandma - temple leeches are just gross in every way.
According to this lady she doesn’t like her husband and he’s abusive. She finally meets a man who makes her feel good so of course she’s gonna lean his way and in the midst of all this counseling something clicked. It’s unprofessional for sure and home-wrecking and a mess but they are both adults it’s on all of them
Right? Dr. Phil emphasized guise when he repeated it back to him. I guarantee you the knee guy is a sociopath, hiding behind ‘religion’ and when she leaves him, he will show his true colors and will be a controlling psycho.
He is telling he is a holly man and head of synagogue but he is fornicating with another man's wife. Disgusting and unethical. About the husband, if she don't want leave her alone and let her go.
That’s why my pastor refuses to spend ANY time with ANY woman alone other than his own wife! You’re setting yourself and the woman up for temptation if you spend time with someone else’s woman 👩
Temptation? i mean if spending time alone will make you cheat then you are a cheater people are not animals you can completely control yourself at least i can, i have spent plenty of time with plenty of people of the opposite gender alone and not once i have had the "temptation" or acted in any innapropiate way, that is a BS copeout for people who lack self respect respect for their own partners and ethics.
All it takes for me being a huge OBSERVER in my Relationship is a " SIMPLE SIGN OF THAT PERSON NOT BEING INTERESTED IN ME & I'M OUT THE DOOR !!!! " No way will I waste my time or energy fighting for someone who's clearly showing me that they don't want me anymore!!! I respect myself to know that I deserve way better ESPECIALLY IF I WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO THEM. 💯👌🏽
So I’m a psychology major. He said it himself he’s not educated in counseling. You’re not allowed to have more then one relationship as a counselor then client and patient. Please do not let this stop you guys from going to therapy!
This guy makes my radar SCREAMMMMM “eventually you start talking about enough personal stuff, I’m no longer her counselor anymore” what a professional stage A creep
Nothing about the wife’s behavior and demeanor suggest that she’s being abused. She doesn’t appear physically or emotionally broken, afraid, or even attached to her husband. Abuse victims don’t leave let alone cheat because they are brainwashed and or completely dependent upon their abuser. She seems to be the abuser with how she lies, cheats and manipulates.
I would never spend another minute with a counsellor or therapist ever again. All the years I did go, benefitted nobody BUT the one on the payroll. And the dr I was seeing, inappropriately touched me, and said and did things at each and every appointment, to invoke a reaction, then point the finger at my reaction (I was a young adolescent at the time). So basically he enjoyed upsetting me. It made things so much worse. I find talking to a trusted friend is more beneficial, back then and today. From my experience it was the therapist that needed the psychological evaluation.. They do WHATEVER they want. Zero accountability. Zero conscience.
"He has a gun! Can you have him searched!?" That was random, but also amusing to think the dude's gonna try and go on the Dr. Phil show with a gun hidden on him.
Dr Phil: Allen will you come on out Charles: Allen I don't know what kind of person you are.. Dr. Phil: Sit down, siiiittttt down, sit down, siiitttt downnn 😂💀💀
Doesn’t Judaism have a problem with an elder (or anyone for that matter) having an affair with a married woman? Doesn’t adultery exist in Judaism anymore?
I'm a counsellor.. And this is absolutely unethical and down right wrong!! The guy is a creep. He needs someone to explain the rules to him. He's fooling no one. Just because you have lived a life does not make you an expert!! You can't be a counsellor just by being religious!? Also what religion allowed adultary?? None I know of! The guy is a narcissist! If he bothered getting actual training he'd know how it works. We don't train for years and years for a laugh! He'd know all about transference and ethics if he went and got some training. This guy is absolutely repulsive.
It says a lot about a church when a counsellor can have a relationship with a client, smile about it on a national stage, and still pretend as though he's in the right. How does he still have a job?!
I think it's really ironic that the Mr.ess says, "I promise not to act like a jerk" when he comes out, and is kicked off of the stage later in the episode for being *such* a jerk.
If he is not a licensed psychologist, a clergy with a license for family counseling or a bar-certified lawyer or a doctor, Then he is just a stranger good-looking guy, trying to help a woman to divorce he husband. Stranger men are bad news for married women. The woman is vulnerable and needs someone to give her ego boost and the guy... well, you know how guys are, and it's drama after drama.
As a recovering drug addict who has been through counseling... No Counsellor should ever get personally involved with a client ever
For real, you pour your heart and soul out to these people, so it only takes a tiny bit of effort to weaponise that information. Any counsellor sexually involved with their client should have their license revoked. It’s a clear abuse of power over a vulnerable person.
stay out of your addiction. take control over your life.
@@liftedgifted6010 I think Richelle is meaning to be encouraging, with her words. She just left out "You can do this!"
IMO addicts need that reminder from supporters, in everyday life. Spoken from experience. You've got this! Just encouragement.
@@richelleinwesttexas1832 i think that’s what he’s trying to do
No professional counsellor would ever get involved with his / her client, he should never be allowed to speak with anybody. He’s making up his own rules as he goes , that’s very worrying!!
Sort of like his divine bloodline... and religion in general.
I agree!
Exactly! Code of ethics violation.
I'm not so sure. She told him that she left her husband 19 times! In my opinion he probably thought this relationship is nothing more but dead end. However, i would ask her why she doesn't leave him. Might be a bit unprofessional, but her husband isn't a saint either.
agree!
I never thought I would ever hear someone say ‘he has a gun can you have him searched’ on the dr phil stage 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂 thats bs they search them when they get in the building
Lol do you think he actually would bring a gun on Dr. Phil’s stage? 😝
I wish they check/search everywhere in the US:(
@@evhookalways So you are against the constitution?
But, why are you fighting for a woman who doesn’t want you?
Ikr
Dominance
I used to fight for women that didn want me but I gave up
Probably cause 25-30 years might be worth saving, kinda hard to start from scratch when your 70
You don't understand how a man works honey.. He will get over her but fight til the end then he will forget about her and find a better woman that's the cycle
At first I cringed. Then I laughed. Then I cringed more. Now I don’t understand.
I struggled to watch this but I really wanted to
High and low.
😂
"He hAS A GUn"
"CAN YOU HAVE HIM SEARCHED" 🤨
I couldn't stop laughing
That remark probably scared some people in the audience 🤣
This woman gets 2 men and I can’t get a date.
Besides everything else. Haha
Low standards.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I m a beautiful woman believe me i don’t have a single guy
🤣🤣🤣
As a minister, he should never have entered into a relationship with her. NEVER!!! He should have avoided a relationship with that married woman. Disgusting.
"HE'S GOT A GUN" lmao
This 'counsellor' is lucky he DOESN"T have a certification, because his entire career would have been imploded right here and then. Wonder if the Synagogue wouldn't be liable for not immediately firing him. People don't understand current laws much.
YOU CROSSED THE LINE DUDE
Whit her
Absolutely
The borders of a doormat don't mean much.
Well I think the “counselor” did a slimy thing there. And of course the wife too.
The husband obviously has issues but I don't exactly blame him for how he reacts, and I sympathize with his request not to see his wife choosing another man in front of him.
This is so awkward
Just a little. 🙂
I'll never understand spouses that fight for a relationship with someone who is openly flaunting an affair.
As a Psychotherapist myself this so-called “Counsellor” appalls me!
He has no place working with vulnerable people or being in a position of authority.
" he has a gun can you search him " sir u tripping
"he ordained you!"
"... that was a low blow"
lmfao dead
Gold
Im late af and 💀😂😂😂😂 bawling my eyes out laughing!!!
“You start talking about enough personal stuff and I’m no longer your counselor anymore”
Um, isnt the whole point of a counselor to be able to talk about person issues in your life??
What there trying to say is there is no room for any kind of personal relationship with a counselor.
The boyfriend has a face you want to slap over and over again 🤣😂
They all have the most punchable faces…
"he has a gun check him"
"you crossed the line with her dude "🤣😂
This is the most chaotic thing I've ever seen
I asked my uncle who’s a counsellor about this issue. I don’t know if this is the rule everywhere, but where we live, in order to have a relationship with your client(Not that you should), you have to close their file and you can’t see or have any contact with them for 2 years. If you meet them again by chance, then it’s no longer considered unethical because they’re not your client anymore. But that’s only the rule in our area.
He’s not a real counselor, he’s just a religious hack.
Charles seems like a chill down to earth person to me.
Naw all 3 are completely insane.
Hahahahhaha. Charles, the guy who acts insane on the tapes, is a down to earth chill guy….I wonder what your definition of a nutjob would be.
Down to earth? Didn't you see how he was mocking the husband with laughter?
Thow shall not covet thy neighbor's wife
Would that scripture apply to this religion? .. pretty sure it’s a different god in this case, seems like there’s not much of the real God in any of this program.. all these people are way strange .. 🤪
🎯
Their religion is Judaism and this is one of the laws of Abraham aka the Ten Commandments followed both in Christianity and Judaism (I’m not sure if they are also followed in Islam or any other religion)
Facts
"I promise not to act like a jerk"
*proceeds to act like a jerk*
Yeah, this guy sounds like a schmoozer
You Can Tell By The Way He Walked Out He's A Twisted Person
Dr.Phil got this one 100% right.
“YOU CROSSED THE LINE DUDE”
Whit her*
@@ngl9273 I SAID IT FIRST
@@ngl9273 that was not the point
The husband is a simp. Why would you want to stay with someone who clearly doesn’t want to stay with you?
Speaking from experience the guy probably isn’t an “elder” in the synagogue. When he mentioned “he has it in his bloodline” his family probably went to the Synagogue for x amount of years. A Rabbi wouldn’t joke around about “who’s holier” with him. He’s just a busy-body who spends too much time there that he thinks he’s an elder and everyone’s annoyed with him but they’re being polite to him. He probably went up to her and lied about his position or talked himself up.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Growing up, I knew a bunch of ‘elders’ who were just retirees stuck in everyone else’s business. My mom called one out for putting moves on my recently widowed grandma - temple leeches are just gross in every way.
I was sure this guy is scum! Making inappropriate jokes, putting down the husband, even trying to flex on Dr. Phil!
White hair
Red face
All he needs is a green tie and he'll look like christmas
😂.... That's what u picked up from the video..... Love uhh 😂😂❤❤
Sorry but I would've laughed too😂😂😂😂
So would’ve i
🙈😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂. A bunch of 'gospel grinders '.
💀💀
According to this lady she doesn’t like her husband and he’s abusive. She finally meets a man who makes her feel good so of course she’s gonna lean his way and in the midst of all this counseling something clicked. It’s unprofessional for sure and home-wrecking and a mess but they are both adults it’s on all of them
While using it exactly correctly, this guy doesn't know what "under the guise" means.
I thought the same thing lmao. It makes him sound so creepy
Right? Dr. Phil emphasized guise when he repeated it back to him. I guarantee you the knee guy is a sociopath, hiding behind ‘religion’ and when she leaves him, he will show his true colors and will be a controlling psycho.
Dr. Phil: But you’re in love with her
His response “I think so.”
My guy, you’re ready to destroy a marriage because you think you might love her?!
“That’s a low blow” lmaooooo I couldn’t stop laughing
“That’s a low blow”
He is telling he is a holly man and head of synagogue but he is fornicating with another man's wife. Disgusting and unethical. About the husband, if she don't want leave her alone and let her go.
I want to see the full episodes now lol
You see how quick he flipped. Going from standing and being a threat to saying he’s scared for his life lol
The boyfriend really thinks he"s special, doesn't he? Being a religious elder and cheating with someone he's counseling...
Ya, agree. I feel like if something were to "happen" to him... I mean he chose the behavior, therefor he'd be choosing the consequence
"HE'S GOT A GUN!!" I'm dying🤣🤣
2:27 "blwell"
I MEAN HE HAS A GUNNN 🤣🤣🤣🤣👀👀
That’s why my pastor refuses to spend ANY time with ANY woman alone other than his own wife! You’re setting yourself and the woman up for temptation if you spend time with someone else’s woman 👩
Exactly!!!
That seems like an extreme reaction.
Or at least set up for gossip
Temptation? i mean if spending time alone will make you cheat then you are a cheater people are not animals you can completely control yourself at least i can, i have spent plenty of time with plenty of people of the opposite gender alone and not once i have had the "temptation" or acted in any innapropiate way, that is a BS copeout for people who lack self respect respect for their own partners and ethics.
Are they deleting comments??? I swear to god there were like 300 comments here a couple months ago
They opened comments last week
Probably.
YT does
if they filtered the comments or people were spamming then those can be automatically removed
He knows no ethical standards bc he's not a counsellor.
I agree. That's low. Hunting for women at a counseling session
Lmao Charles is hilarious 😂 it's inappropriate for me to laugh but he is just too funny 😂
Charles is like a big over grown man Baby.... LMAO 😆 😂😆 😆
All it takes for me being a huge OBSERVER in my Relationship is a " SIMPLE SIGN OF THAT PERSON NOT BEING INTERESTED IN ME & I'M OUT THE DOOR !!!! " No way will I waste my time or energy fighting for someone who's clearly showing me that they don't want me anymore!!! I respect myself to know that I deserve way better ESPECIALLY IF I WAS THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO THEM. 💯👌🏽
this is the funniest dr Phil ep I’ve ever seen
This geriatric teenage drama is great
Yeah dude. You crossed a line.
They are fighting over this woman 😳? Yowza!
Dr. Phil "That is called unethical"
Other guy "Well no"
😂😂😂
I feel bad for the husband too. He needs some help like we all do sometime in our lives.
I don’t think a councilor should ever cross those lines sir
So I’m a psychology major. He said it himself he’s not educated in counseling. You’re not allowed to have more then one relationship as a counselor then client and patient. Please do not let this stop you guys from going to therapy!
Ohhhhhhhh ohhhhhh whooaaaa, Sally, that girl. Hahahha
This guy makes my radar SCREAMMMMM “eventually you start talking about enough personal stuff, I’m no longer her counselor anymore” what a professional stage A creep
Nothing about the wife’s behavior and demeanor suggest that she’s being abused. She doesn’t appear physically or emotionally broken, afraid, or even attached to her husband. Abuse victims don’t leave let alone cheat because they are brainwashed and or completely dependent upon their abuser. She seems to be the abuser with how she lies, cheats and manipulates.
SHE'S OUT OF THE FRYING PAN INTO THE FIRE.
I felt how powerful Charles’ “YOU’RE NO GOOD” was.
it's these very same types of situations that cause the guest list of this show to be carried over onto a future true crime documentary. 🤦♂️
They deserve each other. Hey, Weight Watchers. Three people that are beyond messed up
He says he's been married before so he knows what it takes to make one work. So why did he's first marriage fail then.
What kind of consulting?!?!?
The amount of plot twists in this story📈📉📈📈📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📈📉📉📈📉
He needs that smirk wiped off his face
I would never spend another minute with a counsellor or therapist ever again. All the years I did go, benefitted nobody BUT the one on the payroll. And the dr I was seeing, inappropriately touched me, and said and did things at each and every appointment, to invoke a reaction, then point the finger at my reaction (I was a young adolescent at the time). So basically he enjoyed upsetting me. It made things so much worse. I find talking to a trusted friend is more beneficial, back then and today. From my experience it was the therapist that needed the psychological evaluation.. They do WHATEVER they want. Zero accountability. Zero conscience.
But your in love with her? ... I think so
"He has a gun! Can you have him searched!?" That was random, but also amusing to think the dude's gonna try and go on the Dr. Phil show with a gun hidden on him.
Counselor keep boundaries.
Dr. Phil watch goin bling like a boss
This is the “my wifes boyfriend” meme in real life
iv been seeing therapists for years not once has anyone tried to get down and dirty....im devastated i want my money back
he,s not a licensed therapist thats his get out clause
"sit down" is like the real life version of south park with Eric "take a seat, why won't you take a seat"
Wow we love crossing professional boundaries
You see that laugh after he said oh thats how it did work LORD have mercy 🙏🏽
Well of course he wants Sally to leave him, he’s dating his wife!
Dr Phil: Allen will you come on out
Charles: Allen I don't know what kind of person you are..
Dr. Phil: Sit down, siiiittttt down, sit down, siiitttt downnn 😂💀💀
He has a gun 😂🤣😂😂 I love this man
Doesn’t Judaism have a problem with an elder (or anyone for that matter) having an affair with a married woman? Doesn’t adultery exist in Judaism anymore?
Oh my word this is some crazy stuff
At the synagogue? Man, they’re probably happy that mosaic law isn’t being practiced these days.
If your wife is dating someone she is no longer your wife. Get a divorce.
Been involved in relationships and know how they work so now I’m a counselor. Sir you went through a divorce.
I'm a counsellor.. And this is absolutely unethical and down right wrong!! The guy is a creep. He needs someone to explain the rules to him. He's fooling no one. Just because you have lived a life does not make you an expert!! You can't be a counsellor just by being religious!? Also what religion allowed adultary?? None I know of! The guy is a narcissist! If he bothered getting actual training he'd know how it works. We don't train for years and years for a laugh! He'd know all about transference and ethics if he went and got some training. This guy is absolutely repulsive.
Not even two mins in and I see why the woman and the man doesn’t like him
Dr.Phil is right and just. I just don’t know if television is the right choice for therapy.
This is hilarious 😂😂👏👏
charles needs to let ms piggy go
It says a lot about a church when a counsellor can have a relationship with a client, smile about it on a national stage, and still pretend as though he's in the right.
How does he still have a job?!
I think it's really ironic that the Mr.ess says, "I promise not to act like a jerk" when he comes out, and is kicked off of the stage later in the episode for being *such* a jerk.
Of course I don't know much about the therapist/patient relationship, but aren't they bluring lines here?
If he is not a licensed psychologist, a clergy with a license for family counseling or a bar-certified lawyer or a doctor,
Then he is just a stranger good-looking guy, trying to help a woman to divorce he husband.
Stranger men are bad news for married women. The woman is vulnerable and needs someone to give her ego boost and the guy... well, you know how guys are, and it's drama after drama.
Why are all these dr phils only 5 mins long
The arrogance in that man is sickening
Does he know what “guise” means?