The Agony and the Ecstasy: BE HERE NOW - How Oasis's 3rd Album Ruined Them | Kim Justice
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Back on UA-cam at last, the documentary on Oasis covering their rise to being the biggest band in the world and how their 3rd album, Be Here Now, was an overexcessive and self-indulgent mess that ruined everything. Enjoy!
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0:00 Intro / Oasis: 1991-2009
4:14 Oasis Ruined Everything, And Britpop Too
9:57 Noel and Liam: The Happy Brothers
14:50 Blur vs. Oasis: Britpop Goes to War
28:19 Knebworth, Morning Glory and World Domination
35:29 The Recording of Be Here Now
45:06 Reviewing Be Here Now: 71 1/2 Minutes I Won't Get Back
57:18 How Everyone Reacted to Be Here Now
1:10:40 The Great Backlash, and the New Status Quo
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Be Here Now is back on UA-cam at last! Naturally there's claims on it, but hopefully you can enjoy this one again.
Thank you so much, it’s been so long, I’ve really missed it
So glad it’s back! Easily one of my favorites you’ve done! Thanks Kim
Amazing, was beginning to think I had dreamt this video!
Just re-watched it on patreon last week ;)
Happy to see this back on the Tube, it’s a great piece of work which perfectly documents not just the band, but the time period which birthed the,
Fun fact, the time it takes to fly from Dublin to Dusseldorf is the exact same time it takes to listen to Be Here Now, its my go to album for that trip
Is it the same on an aeroplane?
ExcusemebutIthinkyouwillfindthealbumwouldfinish12minutesbeforethescheduledflightended
So close to being worthy of Pseud's Corner....but not quite.
That's a shit fact.
Whats "fun" about that? If it's even fact. You didn't say if it included getting your anorak out of the overhead.
I think a lot of the songs on Be Here Now really came to life when they performed them live. The songs were stripped down to the basic band and you could hear how good the songs were. It's Getting Better, Man, for instance, really could tear the roof off the place....
Yeah good song but it lasts for 7 minutes ffs
@@frafrafrafrafra The Knebworth version is perfect. 5 minutes long, way better drumming and harmonies, less guitar layers. Same for My Big Mouth.
I find the contrast with the way Noel talks about Oasis and his own songwriting before and after BHN incredibly interesting. It was obviously a big hit to his faith in himself. But I will say that Be Here Now is an introspective masterpiece, a terminally misunderstood album that was disappointing to the public who expected another Morning Glory, and i will defend it to my dying breath
I genuinely think this album is good, regardless of the song lengths and bad production. The melodies and lyrics are still classic Oasis in all its glory. In cocaine we trust.
I still like BHN better than almost anything i've heard in the last 15 years.
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My 2nd fav Oasis album after DM.
Be here now may not be Oasis's best album, but it's my favorite
its mine too
I think it’s their best personally 😎👍🎶
There's another detail about the holiday in Mustique - also holidaying on the island was former Genesis drummer and singer Phil Collins and his then partner, now very much ex-wife, Orianne Cevey. Phil had just publicly announced he had left Genesis and was on a break before starting promotion of his sixth solo album _Dance into the Light._
He and Orianne go to a bar on the island called The Firefly where the manager asks him to play a few numbers if he can get a couple of musicians in. Phil obliges, and the manager provides a husband-and-wife pianist and saxophonist. Meanwhile in the corner are Noel, Meg, Owen, Kate Moss and Johnny Depp (Phil also claims a Labour MP was also in Noel's party but cannot recall their name).
Phil asks Noel if he wants to join in, to which Meg pipes up that she'd seen the music video for "It's in Your Eyes" (the second single from _Dance into the Light)_ in which Phil mimes playing the guitar, which Noel loudly denounces and dismissively turns down the invitation. After Phil returns to the bar, Kate comes over and apologises for the odd encounter. Phil's trio starts playing, and Noel's party leaves shortly after.
This is a story recalled in slightly more detail in Phil's 2016 autobiography _Not Dead Yet._
That’s cause Noel is a bellend, Phil is very talented, Brilliant drummer and he’s a good singer too, He’s got some good songs.
Called in sick and I'm rewarded with not only a new Kim vid...but rewarded with a Kim Oasis doc! Bless you kim!
I spoke to Alan McGee about this. He said it was hard to tell a man whose last album sold 20 million, that his new album is a bit shit.
I actually like Be Here Now: it's bloated, self-indulgent, lacking bass, too many fiddly guitar pieces, far too long - a real cocaine album. Yet it also has some brilliant songs and an amazing production quality: there's an excellent 45 minute album struggling to escape under the weight.
😂😂😂 love that McGee quote. I still love don’t go away to this day so it has that going for it at the very least ☺️
Still have many fond memories of Be Here Now - it was released the same day I finished High School, officially. The same day the country's GCSE results were given out.
@@lunarjetwoman6580 I always loved that tune & like yourself still do...
@@vanman757 🙌you should get one of your mates to get a van too then you could be men with ven
@@lunarjetwoman6580 ???
Nice video, mate. But how could you missed the release of D'You Know What I Mean" single? It was an event all around Europe. It was bigger than the "..Morning Glory" release!
great stuff Kim, your docs are honestly way better than a lot of broadcast TV
This was the first album I ever owned, and I actually genuinely love it. Sure the songs aren’t AS memorable, but it doesn’t deserve a lot of the flak it gets.
Both brothers still produced great music afterwards, both as Oasis and separately.
Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds has some excellent tunes.
No, Liam has the better tunes
@@oasis4ever718 Hard disagree.
It's worth noting that Be Here Now sold more records than 25 in its first full week.
This was freakin brilliant, awesome to have it back!
The "Noel in the Coffin" for the band! 😂
Hello you
Brilliant :-)
The 90's were my 60's and Oasis were my Beatles. BHN is a masterpiece (even though it's not). The last 'classic' Oasis album.
Holy shit, I knew this doc was real. I was worried it was an auditory illusion I was listening to during my A Level Art exams
Thank you for reuploading this, Kim!
Are you kidding me?
@@roywilson4514 Is your name "Kim?"
Ironically, this was the first Oasis album i bought, and i thought it was hard work. If Noel and/or Owen Morris had given it the full 'Let It Be Naked' style treatment, it might be more listenable as a whole; Noel had remixed D'you know.. on the album's reissue, and it was a vast improvement.
As it is, half of the songs are good, but the production on the whole set is all over the place.
You make so many fantastic documentaries, well researched, entertaining, and with an interesting view point. The fact that you don't hit higher view numbers seems incredibly unfair. Much love for the Spectrum coverage you do - which may be a reason for it, but glad you stick with it.
pretending to be female probably puts people off
What a bonkers video! The depth, the detail, the density, I almost feel like this should have been released as a film for rent on Prime video or Apple movies or something. Holy hell, great job.
This was a lot of fun, entertaining and never dull with Noel and Liam.. great stuff!
Wow, impressed with the diversity of your channel.
Look forward to watching this in it's entirety tomorrow :)
Wow. It's back. I'm so happy
Amazing viewing and I learned a lot from this, thanks Kim!
Wow, HMV stores with actual CDs and records in them, not a clearing house for toys, breakfast cereals, posters and other tatty merch. How far they've fallen!
Outstanding documentary. Weirdly though I adore be here now, stand by me and all around the world are some of my favourite songs of all times. The album is a great car song along at the top of your lungs!
Really enjoyed this. Big fan of your docs. Some of the best I’ve seen on UA-cam.
id been wanting to watch this again great vid kim
Great content mate. I was right in the middle of it,and it was great, think I'm still recovering from the mid 90s 😂😂😂
I happened to get into Oasis at the very beginning, I managed to see them at a free concert in Preston, UK on my 18th birthday and was completely in love with Definitely Maybe that I used the tableture to learn the album on guitar. Now I know the second album is good, but it wasn't what I liked about them. Definitely Maybe is a truly raw album. It's got the hunger of a Northern Band trying to make it with all those garage written songs. The second album is way over-produced. I didn't even bother with the third album after the chart songs hit.
To me, Oasis was the British rock/pop dream that turned into a music industry factory and burned out because they knew it.
Was that the Heineken free festival ? The one in Preston was class remember seeing the verve there as well way before they got big
@@LordInglis Yes it was indeed. Boo Radleys played too. I took some acid, looked down the sleeve of my girlfriend and tripped out for half an hour. When I came back around there was a guy running across the tent with security guards chasing him. Epic day out.
where did they sing ? Tokyo Joes ? or the Guild Hall ?
@@tehf00n yeah I seem to remember security having a busy time as well
@@davedogge2280 Avenham Park
My first thought on hearing the album when it came out was, "It's like they tried to make almost every song Champagne Supernova."
I've yet to deviate from that.
Thanks Kim! Hope you're well, luvya channel my man!
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It’s baack!! 😃😃😃
Thank you so much!!!
Awesome I've never seen this so grateful if was uploaded.
I love the first three albums...the excessive indulgence of BHN is what makes it so amazing. If DM was club and WTSMG was arenas, where else could BHN go but stadiums....the album was just in line with their fast, explosive growth which ironically was their implosion, partially because there was no where else to go.....
Amazing work Kim 😊
An amazing documentary I never knew I was waiting for. Thanks, Kim!!
Great job Kim, a nostalgic stroke down my memory lane! And a wonderfully executed diversion from your normal gaming orientated content,A bold move from gaming content but I think you’ve read your audience perfectly. I’ll be watching closely to see where else you take things. Many thanks
Beady Eye's second album was one of the best either of them had done with a far more organic 70's sound - the antithesis of the 'over produced' High Flying Birds albums of his brother.
This deserves a lot more views.
This is great. Be Here Now is one of the most rock n' roll albums of all time 10,000 guitar tracks loud and drugged out. Love it.
Exceptional video Alys! In my top 3 that you have made! So informative and doesn't hold back or sugarcoat the hard truths. Loved it
A really underrated album, with possibly the most under rated Oasis song ever in Magic Pie. Absolute bastard to find on vinyl at the moment for a reasonable price.
Finally someone else who appreciates magic pie too
@@Evan64m I love Magic Pie too, it sounds mega both live and on the album
@@Evan64m i like magic pie aswell
I couldn't believe I found a copy for 27 bucks at a record store. I was so close to spending about 50 bucks to get it on vinyl online.
Ffs
Yay it's back!
Damn this was a good vid!
I was in my early twenties when Britpop was IT and what a amazing soundtrack to have of that time in my life.
Same!
Nice work fella!
This video was really good thank you
That was a fucking brilliant video! Fairplay Kim, good work.
this is ny favorite documentary of yours... It's better than the official "Supersonic" documentary - although, if you want to be thorough, and cover all bases? You should line this and that up in tandem.
Really good work on this Kim.
I hope you drop some more music documentaries one day soon.
Cheers!
"LiL'JpD."
This is and the vid i found Kim's channel with-Bits gaming tv show are in my top 50 yt anything ever. maybe!
Thank you. This is very comprehensive.
Good ta see ya Kim!
I don't know if you are aware how excellent of a documentarian you are. Maybe because you hit a subject I enjoy and is vested in every time. Your personal narration and opinions coupled with the research makes these a joy to watch over and over again. Thank you so much for these.
Excellent work 👌 Thank you
FUCK YEAH THIS DOC IS BACK! LET'S GO!
DAMN ... hit another outta the park!
I don't think it was the album that "ruined them." I think it was the hiatus between this album the next one that ruined them. It's a good album I think
Massively disagree with you on Stand By Me. I thought it was the best on the album. Hearing Liam sing it live now is brilliant. Possibly best moment of his concerts. Check out the video of him doing it at Reading.
Yes, and I think the wrong choice of the lead single was the biggest real mistake of the "Be Here Now" era. It should have been either "Stand By Me" or "Don't Go Away" and not this bloated "D'Ya Know What I Mean?". Yes, the Oasis decline was inevitable, but it would have been less of a downward spiral if "Be Here Now" was off to a good start with a massive lead single.
Indeed Stand by Me was the saving grace of that album. Still like it to these days despite stealing the riff of Bowie's All the Young Dudes.
@@heppolo they're weren't gonna have the lead off single be "don't go away" or something else mellow like that. You start off with something heavier then release the ballad, mate.
@@heppoloThe first rule of most successful guitar bands is that the second single is always the ballad, and the first has to be a rocker.
All of the late 80s Glam-Metal acts in the States used exactly the same formula.
no should of been stay young
Sorry for this unpopular opinion - it’s an honest one tho - Be Here Now for me is a masterpiece - everything about it is perfect from start to finish - what an amazing time to be young and alive at the time it came out - absolute perfection 🎶🎶
Great days weren't they mate, can you believe it's 25 years ago 🙆🏻♂️... Actually yeah i can haha
one of my favorite videos of all time
Oh my god Noel's commentary is so hilarious
You're such a great content producer.
NG pinned it best. Be Here Now was an album supposed to be played once, completely off your face, then never to be heard again. That said there are songs on that album which when you see shows like GMEX in 97, just proves the squandered potential. It's Gettin Better Man, Fade in-out, All around the world. Noel's re-think of DYKWIM is for me one of my all-time fave Oasis songs.. and of course others like Stand by Me & Don't Go Away hold up even today. Even despite it not being their best, it's still the third best, imo.
Great documentary Kim. I remember when Oasis nearly split up in September 1996 after a fraught US tour, and 2 years later in the aftermath of BHN, a lot of people were saying they should have split up back then! Of course, if that HAD happened, I believe those same people would be lamenting all the apparent great music we'd be missing out on - seems unlikely they would have predicted BHN sounding the way it did.
I agree that Oasis had a very cult-like following who were dismissive of many other bands and genres. That following did dwindle after BHN but the ones that stayed would frequently leap to the band's defence in letters pages - I remember one saying "If any other band had released SOTSOG it'd be called the album of the year!" Erm... No it wouldn't.
To be honest the fact that they didn’t have a financial dispute is incredible.
OOH I'm looking forward to this!
I grew up in Feltham, where the video for Stand By Me was shot, and everyone went down to the town centre whilst it was being filmed but there was no sign of N or L. Nevertheless one person near us went "I bet they can't wait to get back to f**in Moss Side!"
I tend to agree with Liam, I think it rocks. It's overblown, coke-addled and ridiculous, but in a fun way!
Thank you Kim
I think all 7 studio albums and the b-sides that came off each were great. They were the best rock band of their era.
great video 👍
It's not my favorite Oasis release, but I find it the most fascinating.
appreciate the hard work, I'm not even an oasis fan but loved this doc
Fantastic Kim
If only you knew the true story behind D'you Know What I Mean...
You've got it completely wrong!!
Great documentary again! I just wish there would be subtitles for Liam and Noel because I think most non-English people hardly understand what they're saying. Is there a reason you only subtitled yourself?
James Hargreaves guitar channel talks about the song ‘do you know what I mean’ and how it’s actually much deeper and more meaningful than people think. It’s well worth checking out.
a good channel! That line by line breakdown was revealing, especially about the connection with his dad, imho. Theres an emotional depth & intelligence in Noel's writing that behind all the bravado, he is a sensitive artist.
Good channel but he's a bit of a fantasist. Nothing to corroborate the theory it's about his father.
@@jackboltonjr3642 Noel called James Hargreaves "an Oasis nerd" which is about as close as you'll get to a compliment from Noel...
So crazy that two of the highest selling singles ever released came out so close to one another, it was the easy summer days of pre-Diana’s passing, a death incurred because of the pappers, and those very same pappers were after Oasis
I'm 2 minutes in and I can't believe how good this is 😃
I Love it. Than you Kim. Love you.
I absolutely love "All Around the World". I think you've been quite unfair to it.
Be here Now is a great album. Songs are a little long but they are filled with great melodies.
In a lot of ways, Be here now is my favourite Oasis album. I love how ridiculous it is😄
i remember waiting out side virgin store in eastgate basildon for this album back in 97. i was 16 , man such a long time ago :) ps this is one of my fav albums stand by me, be here now , dont go away , great tracks
I've been finding this video for so long...thanks for reuploading this Kim. This is one of your best docs outside of the Speccy and wrestling ones.
I hope Kim re uploads heroes of wrestling
IMO, the songs on Be Here Now weren’t an issue it was the endless segues between tracks that made the listener feel like the album was one LONG song. It’s still one of the better Oasis albums in hindsight.
Stand by Me is one of the best Oasis songs the others I like from this album are Don't go away, The Girl in the Dirty Shirt and Stay Young should have been on the album.
I really enjoyed this documentary. Made me go back to listen to Oasis again and to be honest I think Be Here Now is my favourite album 🙂
19:27 For anyone interested in the changes that happened at Radio 1 in the 90s, the episode of the BBC documentary series _Blood on the Carpet_ focusing on it (titled "Walking with Disc Jockeys") is a must watch. It's available on UA-cam. The footage starting with my provided timestamp comes from that documentary, and that is the velvet voiced Jim Carter _(Downton Abbey's_ Mr. Carson) as the series' narrator.
I’ve never liked Oasis but I love you Kim so I just know this is going to be interesting.
I thought it was fine when it came out. I remember it being in heavy rotation on my friend's CD player at the time, and I played bass in a band that covered Stand By Me. I bet it hasn't aged anywhere near as well as Definitely Maybe, Morning Glory or Blur by Blur, though. Still great albums. I'll have to check those demos out.
I love both the Be Here Now album and the era as a whole, it’s my favourite.
Awesome film, so many memories
I don't think it's been discussed much, but like his son Gene, Liam almost certainly has ADHD. He exhibits all of the symptoms very very clearly...shocked this hasn't been more widely scrutinised, or least made people more sympathetic toward some of his more extreme/impulsive traits. What do you think? Not something that was as frequently diagnosed then, but as soon as I heard his son, Gene, had it (Paul Gallagher actually revealed that about his nephew), it made me jump to Liam - of course, would explain so much about his behaviour, and why it would make him insufferable sometimes to Noel.
I've thought the same thing too! His mannerisms or behavior, always made me think that. No shame of course, although I too am surprised it's not ever once mentioned. Would be an interesting topic to discuss for mental health community.
@@Mattv93 Absolutely. I suspect he's never been diagnosed, but it would explain so much
For all that’s wrong with this album and all the hate it gets it’s my favourite album ever. Might not have the best songs on it but it’s got an energy that hasn’t faded after all these years. I bought it the day it came out remember it like it was yesterday. I still have a copy of this in my car and listen to it loud everyday. It might not be everyone’s cup of tea but it’s mine. This album will never leave my heart.
FINALLY somebody else mentions I Hope I Think I Know!! my favorite track on the album, it’s just so brash and carefree and fun and is one of the moments where the “mountain of sound” production actually works in the song’s favor
I'd never seen this and I'm not very familiar with Oasis outside of some drunken karaoke nights and a few pop culture references, yet this was a great watch. As always you deliver a really comprehensive look at something I would normally have no idea would be such a fascinating ride. The context around the other bands and cultural times are really interesting and essential to conveying a story like this too, rather than just "the album kinda sucks". Thanks Kim!
3:10 That's a young Pete Doherty there. He talked about this on Phil Taggart's Slacker Podcast in 2019:
"I wanna clear this one up. I was working in the Trocadero centre [in central London] demonstrating wind-up frogs and I knew that there was something going on ’cause I saw TV cameras and photographers and there was a giant cardboard cut-out of Noel and Liam, so I went down there.
"I just wanted to get on the telly. Joined the queue, grabbed the cardboard cut-outs, was doing these stupid 'please photograph me' things, jumping on the back of an open top bus with these cardboard cut-outs and then the next morning running to the newsagents thinking I was gonna be on the front of the newspaper with these cardboard cut-outs.
"I wasn’t queuing for an Oasis album. My sister was a big Oasis fan, and I later tuned into them and decided they were brilliant, but at the time I was far more interested in getting photographed on the back of a bus with a cardboard cut-out."
its here again, cool! :D
I never really liked the album when it first come out. I love it now after listening to it last year. I hope I think I know, fade in out and my big mouth are the highlights of the album. The biggest problem with the album is the length of some of the songs.
Correct
Was not ready for the Radiohead jumpscare at 6:04... Pablo Honey was a time.
It’s easy to make your own BETTER version of BE HERE NOW:
1. D”You Know What I Mean
2. Flashbax
3. The Fever
4. Stay Young
5. The Fame
6. My Sister Lover
7. Magic Pie
8. Stand By Me
9. Fade In-Out
10. Don't Go Away
11. Be Here Now
12. All Around The World
13. All Around the World Reprise