Today is gonna be the day that we look at the album that killed Britpop and made Oasis has-beens overnight! (Support Todd on Patreon! / toddintheshadows )
On the radio yesterday the DJ was like "Hey everyone it's the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now! Definitely gotta be one of my favorite Oasis albums for sure" and then instead of playing a song from it he put on Champagne Supernova.
I was 18 when I bought this in 1997. I remember when I put it on for the first time. Life was good. At 20 I left the UK for the States to better myself. I became a citizen and worked hard. It was 5 whole years before I returned to the UK and when I finally got home the album was only on track nine.
@@CasperLD it was the first album I bought with pocket money, I was 13, I loved it and now everyone is telling me it's shit and now I don't know what to do with myself
You know those times as a kid or teenager when your parents forced you to come with them to visit some relative or friend of theirs, and after an evening of excruciating boredom, it's FINALLY time to go? But then your mother starts talking as she's putting on her coat in the foyer, and they blather on for ANOTHER 40 minutes? That's what listening to this album feels like...
Those longer Daft Punk songs also have great placement on the albums they’re on as well. Or in the case of “Too Long” in the Alive set list, in a concert setting.
*I can appreciate that when Daft Punk makes a 10 minute song, they have the decency to make it an amazing track that closes an already amazing album fixed it
I saw an interview from Noel once, who said that his creativity came from being unemployed in an economically depressed North of England. And once he had rose to international stardom, he found it harder and harder to find inspiration.
Rod Stewart said the same thing after those classic early solo albums and the stuff he did with the faces, he lost his mojo. When he became a megastar he stopped writing as he said, "What do I write about, my Champagne is cold and the Nanny is late picking up the kids.....?" Songs about personal jets and mansions don't resonate with ordinary people.
matthew coombs I guess you write about your views and past personal experiences. A musician needs to learn to channel creativity, not wait for it and base it on what's in front of you.
..when on earth did that happen? For some reason I always thought that Trainwreckords was the least watched series on here, even though I always loved it
@@TetraDaxall of his content is pretty much on a level playing field at this point. Hell id argue his pop song reviews are his least popular videos which is kind of funny.
I showed this to mom, and she said "oh I had this on CD!" and for the whole video she went "don't remember this track, don't remember this track, don't remember this track, don't remember this track, Oh, I like 'Don't go away' don't remember this track."
I’m listening to all around the world, and Jesus Christ man you only covered half of it. I wasn’t ready for the La La section after the Na Na section, then an “and I know and I know” section, then more trumpets and a “please don’t cry I won’t say die”section. IT JUST KEEPS GOING. THERES ANOTHER NA NA SECTION AS IM TYPING THIS WTF IS HAPPENING???
this comment inspired me to take a listen for myself. at a point where i was like "oh god it's awful how long until it ends" IT WAS THREE ENTIRE MINUTES AWAY FROM THE ENDING also the genius page for this song includes a snippet of an interview with noel gallagher where he said the song was originally even fucking longer than that
@@bobthearm47 Maybe it's painful, (especially "All Around The World"), but at least it gave us "Don't Go Away", which can arguably, in my personal opinion, can be compared with "Wonderwall", and is as good ad that song. But with "All Around The World", like what Todd said, "they went from being inspired by The Beatles, to remotely copying them". They're basically just being a Beatles cover band by that point. Still, "All Around The World" is probably the biggest reason why the album's as painful as it is to listen to, being a NINE minute song! 9 minutes, of weird shit, while they're flying around the world, in what looks like a yellow submarine, yet ANOTHER Beatles reference... it never ends. The song's still going, in fact. If you listen hard enough, you can, in fact, STILL hear Liam and his nasally, sarcastic sounding na, na, na's, going on, to this day! You know what, let's just go back to "Don't Go Away". That song's only 4:48. Nearly 5 minutes, but only 4 minutes, 48 seconds. Sounds like a perfectly fine song length. Geez, you could start and raise a family by the time "All Around The World" is supposedly finished! What in the bloody hell were they thinking?
@@shawnfields2369 What's worse is that, even though they're trying to sell themselves as a Beatles cover band, they're not even succeeding at that. All Around the World is a rip-off *not* of the Beatles, but of "Sowing the Seeds of Love", by Tears for Fears. Listen to the two back to back.
@@FernieCanto What, really? I thought "All Around The World", sounded familiar, but I was thinking they were just trying to copy The Beatles, but they were inadvertently copying ANOTHER band? How do you even do that? Trying to copy one band, but then, you end up sounding like a different, 3rd band? What a bunch of wankers... and I'm not even British. I still enjoy "Don't Go Away", but they tried to be The Beatles, but they couldn't do that right? Well, at least if they wanted to be a successful band, choosing to copy The Beatles, isn't a bad idea, but if you're going to try and do what they did, you can't slouch. It has to be your best, otherwise, you're just ripping off their sound, and ripping off the Beatles worst albums, and worst songs, and it's definitely NOT Oasis's best. This is their worst album for a huge number of reasons. Which is a shame, but I could listen to "Don't Go Away", all day. Thanks for the info, dude.
Weird trivia but the Phantom Menace comparison is hilarious because Ewan McGregor was Noel’s next door neighbor when he was cast in Phantom Menace and when this album came out.
Oasis are like the soccer of rock music. Made in the UK, huge in Europe, a religion in South America, big in Japan, but only moderately big in North America.
Oasis idolised the Beatles, there's nothing wrote in taking inspiration from a band you adore and admire. Oasis never sounded like the Beatles atall when you don't know anything about them or music in general just throw the Beatles in, yh they took words and phrases if anything they were more similar to Stone Roses especially their early music and Rolling stones and the Sex Pistola
Four years after this review was originally posted, the idea of Noel and Liam going to every single individual person in the world singing the chorus to "All Around the World" at them still makes me chuckle.
What makes it even funnier is that it’s Noel and Liam Gallagher, who are most famous for fighting constantly with each other, and still trade barbs at each other even after OASIS broke up, trying to get that kind of song out there. Let’s just say, of Todd’s hypothetical song titles for them, “Oy Liam You Wanker” sounds like one Noel would actually write, if he hasn’t already!
The first time I heard "All Around the World" I didnt know it was 9 minutes long and at like 3 and a half minutes when the key change happened I thought it was the last chorus (foolishly) and thought it was a FANTASTIC song... Then it goes on for another SIX MINUTES. I was laughing my ass off by the end at how absurd it was. Why didnt anyone stop them? Not one person in the recording process said anything to dissuade a catchy single from being nine and a half minutes long... Crazy..
It's so completely absurd and decadent, I actually love it. Plus it's really fun to play live. Without studio magic, you can only make it so big before reaching your limitations, so after a certain point you can just stop giving a shit and make a jam out of it. It's what Oasis did live aswell.
@@torgejh9189 Yeah I agree, as a musician, and music nerd I love it. The double key change, so many layers that my 700 dollar headphones can't even separate them, the 5 minute long jam, it's fun stuff... But they probably lost a lot of money. They could have made the single 3-4 minutes, then when they played live jammed out like this, or released the 3 minute single, then had a redux version later in the album or something. Gotta respect the dedication though
I think "All Around the World" could have been a decent song, if it were half the length and actually had a beginning, middle, and end. Instead, it's one long, long, LONG beginning... and it then mercifully ends.
If they faded the song out at the 5:55 mark, or just after seven minutes (like the video), and then put the rest later, it might have been more palatable.
That's the main issue such with you whole album. Most of the songs, at their core, have brilliant elements. But, for some reason... *cough* cocaine *cough*... They were stretched well beyond what they should have been. Plus, the production and mixing bury and distort the melodies and hooks, by layering and layering overdubs. The vocal and guitar overdubs smother the songs themselves and make it so hard to hear that the hell is going on. If the songs had just been structured instead of allowing them to just repeat over and over, and if the mix had been stripped back to allow the songs to breath, I truly believe that this record could have been just as brilliant as their first two.
I went to listen to the album for the first time after watching this review, and I can absolutely confirm that it is 35 minutes' worth of music jam-packed into 75 minutes.
Also: oh my God, the sheer amount of *sound* drenched over everything just makes it such a hard slog of an album. Some tracks have great ideas buried in there, but they are so, so, so buried.
@@Lglover3 I have a feeling that if someone edited together a version of this album where every song just fades out at the moment where you should skip it, that’d make it a lot better. I actually went and listened to It’s Getting Better (Man!!), and aside from the production still being ridiculous, I actually really liked it for the first half. Tone down the guitar overdubs and cut the song in half, I could jam to that shit all day
@@TheAdrift It's getting better man is the only song I have a problem with the production with. It's so loud and as Noel said, "It's all chhhhhhh" but that's the one song on the album that should be that long. It uses that time to build up with solos and then throws the chorus back at you in the middle of the song. One of the best moments on the record.
@@davidl570 Yep. _Morning Glory_ was by far Oasis's best-selling album and still one of the best-selling British albums of all time, but _Be Here Now_ by no means sold poorly. It's their third to best-selling album at roughly 9 million copies, behind _Definitely Maybe_ at 15 million and _Morning Glory_ at 22.5 million but ahead of _Don't Believe the Truth_ (their best-selling post-1999 album) at 7 million.
“The lyrics are teeny-poppy. But there are three key changes towards the end. Imagine how much better ‘Hey Jude’ would have been with three key changes towards the end.” - Noel Gallagher, giving my favorite quote in music history, about “All Around The World”
Key changes is the hack way of ending a song/making a song sound bigger than it is when you don’t know how to. Paul would have never made a song as important to him as “Hey Jude” include three key changes, because Paul knows that’s lazy writing
Paul was smart with his key changes. Listen to "Penny Lane" and tell me if you noticed that the verse was in B and the chorus in A before the chorus shifted back to B.
Something not a lot of people realize about how this record was the death knell for Britpop is that it came out after both Blur's self titled and Radiohead's OK Computer, and afterwards, The Verve released Urban Hymns, so even if Oasis had made a better record, there was no way they would still be as big as they had been after 1997 since in the same year they were out-Britpop-ed by The Verve, their rivals radically changed their sound and achieved success in the US, and Radiohead completely redefined rock music to the point it exposed how Oasis, even at their best, were just big and loud.
You also had albums like Radiator by Super Furry Animals, Vanishing Point by Primal Scream, Songs From Northern Britain by Teenage Fanclub and Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space by Spiritualized, all emphasising the lack of quality and imagination in Oasis.
@@TerribleResultsNirvana being dead is what MADE British rock any success in the States. Checkout the documentary Be Here Now, great doc about all those bands from Massive Attack to Pulp to Blur so on…
@@paulanthony5274 "Alot of people would disagree with you there!!" "Alot of people" is no argument. "Alot of people" thought the world was flat. And "A lot of people" still think it is. "A lot of people smoke" - and it's *still* not good for you. "A lot of people". An idiot's argument. Argument ad populum is a fallacy.
my parents were blur fans in the 90s, to the point that they saw blur and oasis as direct rivals. i ended up a blur fan too, and when my parents brought up oasis i wanted to see what they were about. my parents showed me all around the world. i made it through the first fifty seconds.
I was the perfect age at the rivalry in the right place. I bought all their albums when they came out... in fact my first cd ever was Blur Parklife. I actually bought be here now (and the singles from it too). I knew what was up right away
"D'ya know what I mean?" looks solely intended to be played at concerts like a big warm up opener. Like singing it to everybody there, right there right then; and they would surely know what it means. Like an anthem. If it sings alone, it's weird. On a record, it's weird. And as the rest of the album that keeps putting things over the other and getting bigger and bigger and messier and messier, it reaches out like a scary, schizoid experience. That remembered the best description this album has ever had: "Yes, we made a concept album. The concept is "we did cocaine" "
I think Do You Know What I Mean is the perfect example of what Todd calls an "I'm back, bitch" single: A big meaningless song reaffirming how big the performers are.
"I think I've said something like this before, but if I were making the Oasis biopic, it would begin with a scene of Noel and Liam as kids, Liam feeling sad for being beaten up just because he acted like an asshole, Noel cheering him up by playing a new song he just wrote 'All around the world / gotta spread the word / you know it's gonna be okay.' 'You know Liam, one day we are going to be Rock and Roll stars, and we're going to turn this song into the biggest song ever. At several of the early shows they play stripped down versions of the song, at the recording of both Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory they're asked if they want to include the anthem. 'Not yet' says Noel. 'Not until we have the budget to make it fucking right.' The film culminates with a painstaking reconstruction of the recording process of All Around the World, done in black and white, cinema verité style, but also imitating the famous bell-making scene from Andrei Rublev (it goes without saying that my biopic is a 3 hour monster like Nixon or something). Final scene of film is a one-take of Noel, dejected, angry at Liam, coked out of his mind, feeling the dream has gone to shit, putting on the song, the masterpiece he dreamt about since he was a kid, and over 9 painfull [sic] minutes realizing just how bad it is, just how much he fucked it up. For the last couple of minutes he is bawling his eyes out, lying on the floor, snot coming out of his nose. Roll credits, soundtracked by Country House." - Frederik B, on an ILX forum
I just listened to the 2016 re-mixed version of "D'yknow What I Mean" and HOLY SHIT can you hear the difference!! The original has virtually NO bass, it's just this wall of high-pitched white noise that reminds me of trying to listen to Slipknot on crappy computer speakers. The 2016 version levels everything out perfectly so it sounds like an honest-to-god song.
Yeah, it’s a pretty good re-mix, I had never heard the strings on the chorus until I heard the remix. That said, I still prefer the original, it’s not a great song, but to my mind its “Peak Oasis”, loud, brash and absolutely fucking mental. 10/10 from me.
@@rossgardner9412 I actually like that song a lot. I just love the scope of it, even if it's not really "about" anything. It reminds me of how much bigger the world seemed to me in 1997 (granted I was 6).
Gabriel Schleifer yeah, it was released just after I turned 18, I remember it being a blinding hot summer and I had just finished my schooling and was about to head into proper work. Life definitely seemed full of possibilities and almost infinite in scope and Britain seemed like the world’s cultural epicentre. Oasis was a massive part of that, it’s difficult to really relay to a person who didn’t see it for themselves just how massive and important Oasis actually were. Even now I’m getting a big nostalgic feeling thinking about those days!
@@rossgardner9412 You're right, you'll probably never be able to convey ti me how important Oasis were because I attempted listening to their first album a few weeks ago and had to shut it off halfway through. Everything is too loud, I can't stand Liam's voice and all of the songs are generic 60s-style rock. I legitimately can't understand how THAT was one of the best albums of the 90s.
@@FischerFilmStudio no that's the American meaning. In the UK to toss someone off means to give them a hand job. I remember when watching Lord of the rings the two towers in the cinema, everyone laughed when the dwarf bloke said to his elf friend "you'll have to toss me". I don't know how intentional a joke that was, I don't know if it has the same meaning in new Zealand, but yeah, it was hilarious at the time. Similar situations happened apparently when the avatar last airbender film was in UK cinemas, with the constant calling people a "bender" making everyone there crack up and turned the film into even more of a comedy than it already was.
Thank you for your service. I would say you've done the Lord's work, but the existence of Oasis is proof that there is no god. Not a just and merciful one, anyway.
It’s hard to imagine how big this album was in the UK. It was released on a Thursday for some reason, but from that Thursday to Sunday it had sold 700,000 copies. To put that in perspective, the closest to this was Michael Jackson’s Bad album that sold 350,000 copies in 7 days. Unreal.
Don't know if this album singlehandedly killed Britpop but 1997 was definitely the year Britpop became unfashionable. Blur and Radiohead went in very different directions and the only other notable Britpop record that year was Verve's Urban Hymns.
Yeah, 1997/8 was when all the coke and misery really piled on. Blur brought out their self-titled and opened it with Beetlebum, The Verve peaked and then left for almost a decade, Suede didn't come back until 1999 and were never quite the same.
PuppetMaster9 you know nothing about oasis. This album isn't their best and it's not that good but they did better over time and made some good records (not as good as dm and wtsmg)
harry drewitt So someone comments on this album being bad... in the comments section for a video ABOUT how this album is bad... and your response is “you know nothing about Oasis”? What does that even mean? Did you expect people to be praising fucking Be Here Now? Because I *do* know Oasis, I know their discography inside and out, and let me state, for the record: Despite 2-3 great songs, Be Here Now is a fucking atrocious album.
@@clintbeast-bud8119you are delusional, the only good record better than this one is the last one, which it can be a 7. Then, none of the post Be Here Now records are higher than 6
I kind of want somebody to make an animation for All Around The World where at first they're marching and all happy, and as it goes on, the more tired and insane they get, the trip just getting to be too much to take.
Yep, this album was 2 kilo bag of cocaine that gained sentience and recorded an album produced by another 2 kilo bag of cocaine. Brilliant, I tell ya. Brillant!
@@tgletgle9980 Fleetwood Mac done their fair share of opiates, but I'm not saying you can't make good music while on cocaine. Some obviously can, mostly those who could while sober, if they got out of their own way. I do agree that Oasis were more cocaine users than heroin, chained to a mirror and a razor blade. I'm not sure if they used heroin at all. I don't think they did. But heroin's impact on the music business is legendary. Everyone from the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and James Taylor, through Guns 'n' Roses, T-Rex, Aerosmith, and the RHCP, into Alice in Chains, Nirvana, and Sound Garden, past Megadeth, Slipknot, and Pantera, had members who were addicted to heroin at one point. So many bands actually, I don't want to stop listing great bands, so I'm just going to stop, knowing there is plenty more. Also, Grateful Dead and Phish. And these are just rock based bands. The message would max out before I was 1/16 done, if I mentioned other genres like jazz. Although, remember kids, drugs aren't cool! I spent ten years of my life on that shit, so I'm in no way glorifying their use. As I say, I think there's guys could have done just as well, or even better, while sober if they had the confidence.
Here in the UK, Oasis were very much hailed as The Beatles for a new generation. After all, both wrote huge anthemic rock songs and had equally huge personalities to match. The difference is that The Beatles had so many more strings to their bow when it came to songwriting: they could go on proggy tangents and fully embrace the esoteric. Oasis were exceptional at writing big no-nonsense rock songs but Be Here Now definitely exposed their shortcomings. Blur and Pulp were the other big Britpop bands and they've both shown themselves to be more varied in musicality than Oasis. That doesn't mean that Oasis are bad. Even in 2023, they're still a British institution and literal millions of people would be trying to get tickets if they reformed tomorrow. The real problem was that Oasis spawned an entire generation of British guitar bands who just... weren't very good. That probably contributed to rock's slide into irrelevance in modern mainstream music.
I really feel Oasis could've done what Radiohead and Damon Albarn (creating the Gorillaz) did, and completely scrub their canvas. Damon Albarn and Radiohead both left the britpop era behind and became famous even more. And even though you can change location, worth dynamic, budgeting, you still can't change people, and the Gallagher brothers were coked up, completely done with each other and couldn't stand making music anymore. What they personally should've done was take a break, cool off, count their winnings, SPEND TIME APART, and decide if they wanted to keep doing this. And if they did, come back either together or separately with broader horizons to share with the world.
The big thing that wasn’t mentioned was The Masterplan, as it’s kinda the other half of the story. There was this great follow up to Morning Glory that was falling into place piece by piece but Noel just didn’t listen to anyone’s advice and insisted on using the material for B-Sides and as filler songs. That record is the follow up that could’ve been, and it’s tantalising to think of how it might have turned out had they stowed the tunes, taken a break and spent some time recording and polishing them. Instead we got All Around The Fucking World repeated 6,000 times!
That's interesting. I always thought The Masterplan was the closest they came to matching the quality of the first two records. Fade Away is probably my favorite Oasis song.
Oasis was a band that always were on the wrong side of the Loudness War, but if you’re gonna write boring songs, and THEN compress all the dynamic range out of them, it’s just gonna be boring, or end up overwhelming the audience to the point of shutting the record off. Edit: I had mostly missed this record myself, so I wasn’t expecting that last track. I laughed out loud. How on the fucking nose.
The songs on Be Here Now aren’t bad songs at their core. Had they stripped some of the guitars back, made the songs reasonable lengths and swapped Magic Pie and Fade In-Out for Acquiesce and The Masterplan (and maybe also swapped something else for Stay Young) it would have been a killer album
When Todd introduces “D’ya Know What I Mean?” And says it sounds like Oasis I’m surprised he didn’t say it sounds too much like Oasis since it uses the exact same chords as “Wonderwall.”
Nirvana’s “Dumb” uses the same chords in the verse as Smells Like Teen Spirit. Could be considered hacky but I personally find it brilliant that Kurt found a way to recycle his most famous chord progression into a new song and not only make it good enough to chart but also call it “Dumb”.
@@gab_v250 May also have been edited down for single release. I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) by Meat Loaf was a UK number one in 1993, and its album version is 12 minutes; it doesn't hold this record because the single edit is barely five and a half. Oasis would probably tell the producers to piss off if they tried to edit All Around The World down. That said, George Michael's Jesus To A Child and Queen's Innuendo, number ones in 1996 and 1991, are 6:49 and 6:33 on their Now That's What I Call Music! albums (which mostly went with single edits, American Pie on Now! 20 being a notable exception), so they might be up there.
I remember rushing to pick up the CD the day it came out. Rushed home, tossed it in the old tower stereo system with gigantic stack speakers expecting a rapturous listening experience. By track 3 I was like Ralphie and “Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine.” I stopped it playing, looked up, and uttered “son of a bitch…”
I'm a huge Oasis fan (from the UK). You got this mostly spot on - the fact that they didnt really want to do an album, the lazy song writing, the cocaine fuelled excess, all correct. I'd never noticed about DYKWIM being a throw away line but, yep, it is. My only input would be that Stand By Me is a quality tune, you skipped over how good that is, plus the album could have been sooo much better with some of the single B sides swapped in - have you ever heard Stay Young for example? Why they thought Magic Pie was better than that I have no idea. BTW, fun fact - Noel was lazy songwriting and looking for a rhyme for "passer by" in a rhyming dictionary but his coked up brain misread "magpie" as "magic pie".
I personally think “It’s Getting Better (Man!!)” would have been right up there with their classic tracks if they toned down the ridiculous guitar production that runs rampant through the whole album, and ended it after 5 minutes instead of 7.
As a songwriter myself, D'ya What I Mean is the kind of song you can write in three minutes, which is so fast you can convince yourself you must be a genius for the feat lol
@@-.-.11 Oh well, at least you gave it a shot. Sorry to tear you away from the -loserdom- zero stakes work of casting aspersions on strangers online. Please resume your cowardice.
I think the record label was leaning hard on the music mags like... "Oh, your reviewing Be Here Now? Well you best not say anything negative about it or your never getting any interview time with the Gallagher's ever again"
The thing is, this video encouraged me to listen to Oasis properly. I found myself liking these songs all the while Todd is just ranting about how terrible they are. So I figured "If THIS is their low, what the hell do their highs sound like?" So I listened to both of the other albums, and I was floored. Then I listened to this one, and I still like it. I guess it's not as good as the other ones, but I've always been a sucker for big, long, cocaine sounding songs that just keep getting bigger, and this album is nothing but that. I can't listen to it in one sitting, but I find myself listening to maybe a quarter of it when I'm feeling kinda down, and it tends to perk me up again. It's like Noel dropped some of the coke he was on into the jewel case and it gets shot into my eardrums every time I put the CD in. So basically, thank you for encouraging me to take digital cocaine, Todd.
I checked out What's the Story Morning Glory in large part because of this video, and I found it excessively mediocre. I might give Definitely Maybe a chance but after WtSMG I don't feel a strong desire to do so at all.
Melodically the album is actually very strong. It has more hooks than most bands manage to muster in a career. But it's massively overlong, overproduced and generally obnoxious. Oasis songs always had a fair bit of gibberish in them prior to this, but they managed to sell it artistically. Not here, the balance is off by too much. It's a shame, because there's a very good album in there with a different edit.
Don’t forget The Masterplan (The B-sides) was as good as their first two albums The 20th Anniversary release of this album contains the stripped down demos which sound a lot better.
GergelAni my apologies. It’s the 20th Anniversary Deluxe album. You can find the demos on UA-cam. You can find them on UA-cam under “Be Here Now Mustique Demo”
I think one problem Oasis always had was you take that chorus and the end of the song is just that over and over and over. sometimes it works like Live Forever but then other times it's like "I get it!"
Yeah that makes sense...I can't help but notice that the people in the comments defending this album consistently defend the quality of the melodies and describe how they like to "just put the songs on" - aka, as background music. I mean...I do get easily obsessed with melodies I like. In the past when choosing to play music from one of my devices, I've put on the same ~40 seconds of music on a loop, over and over, for hours...but, if the artist released a 5 minute single that was literally just that same melody looped 7 times...it would deserve all the criticism and be a shit song! The brain is stupid - and the standards for background music are also on a completely different level. I do empathize with the people in the comments just sharing that they personally enjoy playing the album...I find their reasons interesting, as long as their comments include a disclaimer that they acknowledge the music's faults. Especially when they ultimately end up describing how they just don't actively HATE the album and don't mind it playing in the background while they're doing something else - or just lost in thought, which still counts as background music in my opinion. _(And ironically, a melody bite I love can be put into/from a song that I don't like listening to, that's too long and repetitive, (even if I don't hate any one part in particular)...yet, I'll cut out that bit of main melody I like, loop it, and for some reason, I can enjoy listening to it over and over...played on a loop for a period of time that is muuuch longer than the OG song I took it from and prefer over. The brain is weird.)_ Sorry, that's my rant. 😅✌️
Travis and Coldplay happend stereophonics got bigger verve hit big. Blur moved on into some of their best tunes beatlebum song 2. Suede never even noticed what they was doing. R&B hip hop started taking over.
Everyone else had moved on. Ok Computer, Blur and Urban Hymns all came out in 97, Coming Up by Suede and Everything Must Go by the Manics came out the year before. Oasis ended up left behind and sounding like a parody
@@richardturpin3665 Around 97 both in the US and the UK music turned more pop in general. In the US you had boybands and pop divas like Britney and Christina Aguilera and even Will Smith came back while in the UK you had the Spice Girls. As far as rock in the US it went very bad with post-grunge crap like Creed, terrible Nu metal (Limp Biskit) and pop punk. In the UK so called post-britpop was good but much less exciting that britpop had been unless you were melancolic (coldplay) or intelectual existentialist (Radiohead) while Blur first got inspired by US indie (selftitled album) and later made an awesome melancolic psychedelic album (13). In general I think i like the early 90s over the late 90s.
“...It’s more like the last hour of a party that’s raging long after the fun stopped, and everyone should’ve gone home...” As much I love Oasis and actually enjoyed BHN, Todd knocked it out of the ball park with his assessment on the album’s sound. Best episode of Trainwreckords, by far ♥️
I’m realizing that both Todd and several of the commenters were teenagers when Oasis came out, which definitely explains a lot of the nostalgia for them. I would have lost my mind if the twin slabs of Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory defined my teenage definition of Big Huge Rock Band. When I started thinking about what my Gen X equivalent would be, I realized: Guns N Roses. A band that came from fucking nowhere to completely dominate the rock scene, bigger than anything you could imagine, massive hit album (Appetite for Destruction), and an absolute catastrophe of an ego-fueled bloated disaster follow-up (Use Your Illusion) that stopped them cold. In fact, why haven’t we seen the Trainwreckords about Use Your Illusion? That would be perfect fodder.
I agree that there are definitely parallels. Both bands arguably represent both the zenith and nadir of a music scene, which seems to be reflected in the quality of their releases over time, which is interesting isn't it? I wouldn't say they're generationally separated though, not for me anyway, speaking as a fellow Gen X. They each represent an important phase in my formative musical life. Our generation was musically as blessed as any can ever be, I know that much.
Really? Use Your Illusion, disasters? They're generally considered good-to-great records, successes of their time- plus, unlike Be Here Now, the big hits of this record were numerous and are still known and played and loved to this day. November Rain, Don't Cry, You Could Be Mine, The Knock on Heaven's Door & Live and Let Die covers.. GnR could totally quality for a Trainwreckords episode, but it'd best go to The Spaghetti Incident (GnR not knowing what the hell they were doing) or Chinese Democracy (Gnr, or more specifically Axl Rose, going off the rails).
Used your ilusion is bloated and all of that, but that album packs way too many hits to be a "trainwrecord". Don't cry, November Rain, Estranged, You could be mine...
Be Here Now is a frustrating album. If Noel trimmed 20-25 minutes from it and ditched Magic Pie I think there's a very good 45-50 minute album hiding in there.
It's incredible how many Oasis b-sides are better than their album tracks, and even singles. I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides.
The Beatles, The Stones and The Smiths all have great B-sides too. Noel says he learned to understand the value and art of good b-sides from these guys. Oasis and Radiohead were the last big bands to honor that tradition. You could also say these bands were also making the same mistake of not making certain B-sides the singles or album tracks instead.
Adam Weishaupt "I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides." Smashing Pumpkins easily especially considering a lot of their B-sides from both Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are better than a lot of the songs from those albums, and those albums are both already fantastic (I'd go as far to say that Mellon Collie is one of the Top 5 best double albums of all time.) As far as The Beatles? Idk, their A-sides were definitely better in general.
D'Ya Know What I Mean is also literally the same chords as Wonderwall...exactly the same. Acoustic versions of this song start out exactly like Wonderwall.
And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds.
"And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds. " Well, Boulevard of Broken Dreams was a better song than D'You what I mean? Perhaps Noel was hurt that he didn't get all the royalties to that song the way The Rolling Stones got all the royalties to The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony (a fact that gets in the way of me loving and adoring the Rolling Stones)
GeoNeilUK To be fair, it literally is the same as the rolling stones song. Just slowed down and using the orchestral version as the backing track. Though it cut out the best bit, the chorus. The stones version of the song is way better, has way more energy. Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades
"Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades" Well, if the Stones are licensing the song, I remember Richard Ashcroft being less than pleased about the tune he was getting no royalties for being used to flog average cars (Don't buy Vauxhall cars, they're shite!)
@@joelww2501 I understand that completely, I was just messing around with the guy who pointed out that Todd didn't know the difference between British accents as an American, so probably wouldn't know the regional dialects of Britain
Your dissection of Oasis here is spot on. Every criticism you level is completely deserved. The thing is, I still love it. For all of its coke fueled self-indulgence, it's still a great album. In fact, some of the unplugged tracks really shine. The acoustic version of Stand By Me is stellar. Thanks again for another great post, it's always a treat to see you've uploaded something new.
Don't Go Away makes this album worth it. Ah, the memories of crying over my ex-girlfriend when I was 14 as I burned with a fever while listening to this song will never go away.
@ElyC West i meant as in worthy of existing. If Be Here Now got erased from hisrory that song would be lost. That song to me made this album worthy of being made.
Firstly, the idea of the Gallagher brothers having a charting *argument* is just hilarious! Secondly, I hadn't watched this episode in a couple years. However, I knew what the twist was thanks to reading about the show on TV Tropes. It had me dying from laughter again! 🤣
"You have to go back to the Beatles' 'Revolver' for a set whose every constituent could be spun off into the singles chart." "Boston" by Boston: "Am I a fucking joke to you?"
This album is like the Oasis version of St. Anger: songs that should've been 4 minutes long, stretched out to 7 or 8 minutes for no good reason, awful mixing, conflict between band members, etc.
This was seriously the only Trainwreckords request on Patreon? I'm surprised no one wanted to hear your thoughts on albums like Chinese Democracy, Lulu, The Beginning, Scream, St. Anger, and so on. And who knows, maybe you'll be featuring America, the latest Thirty Seconds to Mars album, on this series. But, I guess we can save those for another day.
>Chinese Democracy Could've been the greatest album ever made and it still would've been seen as a disappointment with all the hype. The fact that it's a mediocre album just made it worse. The Duke Nukem Forever of music. >Lulu It's a Lou Reed album that just so happens to have Metallica on it. It's a vanity project. >The Beginning Agreed >Scream The Chris Cornell album? I'm not well-versed in Chris Cornell's discography, so no comment. >St. Anger Agreed. >The new 30STM album Oh god are they still a thing? I legit haven't heard a song of theirs since...2010ish. And OH MY GOD JARED FUCKING LETO IS THEIR LEAD SINGER WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS EARLIER?
Boy, thirty seconds to mars is still going? Even after Leto got shat on after suicide squad? I’d thought he’d go good on his promise and go live a cave after that embarrassment.
If I had a nickel for everytime Todd compared a tranwreckord to the Phantom Menace, if have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
"All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean, yeah yeah" was VISIONARY. Oasis invented nonsense constructing spambots DECADES ahead of time!
Personally, if “D’You Know What I Mean” had a better chorus and dialed back the strings a bit, I think it would’ve been a pretty good song, I actually really like everything else about the song
Yes, less cocaine and more restraint could have turned a lot of these songs around. But... that's kind of the point. It's like saying "Trumpets" would be a good song if Jason Derulo wasn't filling the lyrics with sleaze ball nonsense. Yeah, unfortunately it's Jason Derulo.
On the radio yesterday the DJ was like "Hey everyone it's the 25th anniversary of Be Here Now! Definitely gotta be one of my favorite Oasis albums for sure" and then instead of playing a song from it he put on Champagne Supernova.
LMAO
At least not Wonderwall
@@soulbrother5435 Today-
@@susragejr477 dont you dare open the pandoras pox
@@soulbrother5435 -is gonna be the day
I was 18 when I bought this in 1997. I remember when I put it on for the first time. Life was good. At 20 I left the UK for the States to better myself. I became a citizen and worked hard. It was 5 whole years before I returned to the UK and when I finally got home the album was only on track nine.
It's still being recorded so this is bullshit
@@babscabs1987 just 100 more bars of "nah nah nah na na nah, nanna na nah nah nanna naah" and we'll do lunch.
casperld I was 18 also I remember buying it and I fucking love D’know what I mean, I still play it today
@@CasperLD it was the first album I bought with pocket money, I was 13, I loved it and now everyone is telling me it's shit and now I don't know what to do with myself
@@babscabs1987 it's okay buddy. Don't let opinions of others destroy your enjoyment and self worth.
You know those times as a kid or teenager when your parents forced you to come with them to visit some relative or friend of theirs, and after an evening of excruciating boredom, it's FINALLY time to go? But then your mother starts talking as she's putting on her coat in the foyer, and they blather on for ANOTHER 40 minutes?
That's what listening to this album feels like...
Terrifyingly accurate
As someone who has suffered through this experience WAY too many times to count, yeah it’s pretty accurate
And you can hear the CLOCK TICKING ON THE WALL...😭
My dad whenever leaving church when I was a kid. Legit stopping the car in the parking lot to talk to people.
@@PigSpeakers Bro has the maximum rizz
If there ever was a better image describing Noel and Liam, it's those trains smashing together.
Haha
I can appreciate that when Daft Punk makes a 10 minute song, they have the decency to title it "Too Long".
Either that or Giorgio By Moroder
Those longer Daft Punk songs also have great placement on the albums they’re on as well. Or in the case of “Too Long” in the Alive set list, in a concert setting.
@@jooree7696 Giordio by Moroder isn't a song it's an audiobiography.
*I can appreciate that when Daft Punk makes a 10 minute song, they have the decency to make it an amazing track that closes an already amazing album
fixed it
and Green Day's two 9 minute songs on American Idiot (Jesus of Suburbia and Homecoming) are multi-part songs with varying sounds.
I saw an interview from Noel once, who said that his creativity came from being unemployed in an economically depressed North of England.
And once he had rose to international stardom, he found it harder and harder to find inspiration.
Rod Stewart said the same thing after those classic early solo albums and the stuff he did with the faces, he lost his mojo. When he became a megastar he stopped writing as he said, "What do I write about, my Champagne is cold and the Nanny is late picking up the kids.....?" Songs about personal jets and mansions don't resonate with ordinary people.
I think that tends to become a problem with a lot of bands. Plus, early on, there isn't as much of a time crunch to write new music.
matthew coombs I guess you write about your views and past personal experiences. A musician needs to learn to channel creativity, not wait for it and base it on what's in front of you.
I think it might have been from "there we were now here we are: the making of oasis".
Why didn’t he write an album around that???
The fact that we went from "I only got one request for Trainwreckords" to it arguably being the show Todds most known for is beautiful
..when on earth did that happen? For some reason I always thought that Trainwreckords was the least watched series on here, even though I always loved it
@@TetraDaxall of his content is pretty much on a level playing field at this point. Hell id argue his pop song reviews are his least popular videos which is kind of funny.
I'd say one hit wonderland is the biggest series for him
@@therebelreaper1486
worst hit songs series, surely
@@TetraDaxyou thought trainwreckords is less popular then CINEMADONNA???
As a kid, I thought "All Around the World" was just an ad jingle for a cellphone network rather than a real song.
And Hear'Say ripped that off and All Saints' 'Never Ever' for Pure & Simple.
A ten minute long jingle! 😂
I mean Cingular/AT&T used it for a few years there. In the mid 2000s.
yeah, i remember hearing it on those old cingular ads back in... what, 2005/2006? had no idea it was oasis of all bands until like a few years ago lol
Cellphone network jingles in the 90's ? Wasn't a thing, at least not in the UK.
The reveal for the 2 minute song was absolutely... perfect.
Ikr
The "Piss off you wankers" - is this guy secretly British? Perfect delivery.
@@jca111 he has worked with quite a few Brits lol even a Zealander!
Yup - Did it proud - Really was not ready for that.
Biblical
I remember one time when my dad was drunk I heard him singing all around the world but replacing every word with wank
Had some kind of neural misfire and heard wank to every word of daft punk's around the world......worth it
My stepfather did the same thing, but he wasn't covering anything.
Now THAT is funny - That I can Picture.
The same way their authors intended
Wank wank wank wank
Wank wank wank wank
Wank wank wank wank
I showed this to mom, and she said "oh I had this on CD!" and for the whole video she went
"don't remember this track,
don't remember this track,
don't remember this track,
don't remember this track,
Oh, I like 'Don't go away'
don't remember this track."
I’m listening to all around the world, and Jesus Christ man you only covered half of it. I wasn’t ready for the La La section after the Na Na section, then an “and I know and I know” section, then more trumpets and a “please don’t cry I won’t say die”section. IT JUST KEEPS GOING. THERES ANOTHER NA NA SECTION AS IM TYPING THIS WTF IS HAPPENING???
Todd truly said it best calling it "a death march of peace and love" it just. keeps. going.
It was the "it's like climbing a mount everest of cocaine" that got me laughing. I remember thinking the the exact same thing back in the day!
this comment inspired me to take a listen for myself. at a point where i was like "oh god it's awful how long until it ends" IT WAS THREE ENTIRE MINUTES AWAY FROM THE ENDING
also the genius page for this song includes a snippet of an interview with noel gallagher where he said the song was originally even fucking longer than that
Was there a doot-doo section?
Pitchfork said it best when they wrote that Oasis didn’t make this album, cocaine MADE them make this album
They also called it the worst engineered album ever.
at least cocaine gave us Station to Station, this is just… painful
@@bobthearm47 Maybe it's painful, (especially "All Around The World"), but at least it gave us "Don't Go Away", which can arguably, in my personal opinion, can be compared with "Wonderwall", and is as good ad that song. But with "All Around The World", like what Todd said, "they went from being inspired by The Beatles, to remotely copying them". They're basically just being a Beatles cover band by that point. Still, "All Around The World" is probably the biggest reason why the album's as painful as it is to listen to, being a NINE minute song! 9 minutes, of weird shit, while they're flying around the world, in what looks like a yellow submarine, yet ANOTHER Beatles reference... it never ends. The song's still going, in fact. If you listen hard enough, you can, in fact, STILL hear Liam and his nasally, sarcastic sounding na, na, na's, going on, to this day! You know what, let's just go back to "Don't Go Away". That song's only 4:48. Nearly 5 minutes, but only 4 minutes, 48 seconds. Sounds like a perfectly fine song length. Geez, you could start and raise a family by the time "All Around The World" is supposedly finished! What in the bloody hell were they thinking?
@@shawnfields2369 What's worse is that, even though they're trying to sell themselves as a Beatles cover band, they're not even succeeding at that. All Around the World is a rip-off *not* of the Beatles, but of "Sowing the Seeds of Love", by Tears for Fears. Listen to the two back to back.
@@FernieCanto What, really? I thought "All Around The World", sounded familiar, but I was thinking they were just trying to copy The Beatles, but they were inadvertently copying ANOTHER band? How do you even do that? Trying to copy one band, but then, you end up sounding like a different, 3rd band? What a bunch of wankers... and I'm not even British. I still enjoy "Don't Go Away", but they tried to be The Beatles, but they couldn't do that right? Well, at least if they wanted to be a successful band, choosing to copy The Beatles, isn't a bad idea, but if you're going to try and do what they did, you can't slouch. It has to be your best, otherwise, you're just ripping off their sound, and ripping off the Beatles worst albums, and worst songs, and it's definitely NOT Oasis's best. This is their worst album for a huge number of reasons. Which is a shame, but I could listen to "Don't Go Away", all day. Thanks for the info, dude.
Weird trivia but the Phantom Menace comparison is hilarious because Ewan McGregor was Noel’s next door neighbor when he was cast in Phantom Menace and when this album came out.
Redpipe327 that is hilarious!
Also I love Evan
*Ewan
I'm sure George Lucas has this on his ipod
Really?
"A death march of peace and love" was one of the funniest sentences I've heard in a very long time.
That sounds like a badass song or band
The definition of leftism.
Someone made a comment years ago about how it sounds like the name of an emo band.
@@emilyadams3228yes, very accurate
Oasis are like the soccer of rock music.
Made in the UK, huge in Europe, a religion in South America, big in Japan, but only moderately big in North America.
Fitting, given the Gallagher's Man City fandom
@@TimmyTickle as if we needed more confirmation of him being a certified chode
You did the “Big In Japan” on purpose
Also the hooliganism.
So they were big/huge in all the important parts of the world then?
Got it ;)
I believe the working title for this album was "Lieutenant Paprika's Isolated Pancreas Group Band".
Harv72b Suzy in the ether with emeralds
With a small amount of assistance from my comrades
"It was one score ago at this point in time,
Lieutenant Paprika instructed the ensemble to perform!"
I tapped the CNN app today, oh boy.
Na I think it was “The Baje Album”
Seems like half of the album is Oasis doing their best Oasis impression and the other half is Oasis doing their best Beatles impression.
All of Oasis is them doing their best (worst) Beatles impression.
Gator Zen so sick of this fucking comparison, oasis sounds nothing like the beatles.
Great summary.
They were much better trying to sound like Oasis than like the Beatles unfortunately. Not that that's much of an accomplishment.
Oasis idolised the Beatles, there's nothing wrote in taking inspiration from a band you adore and admire.
Oasis never sounded like the Beatles atall when you don't know anything about them or music in general just throw the Beatles in,
yh they took words and phrases if anything they were more similar to Stone Roses especially their early music and Rolling stones and the Sex Pistola
Four years after this review was originally posted, the idea of Noel and Liam going to every single individual person in the world singing the chorus to "All Around the World" at them still makes me chuckle.
Any day now, it will be *my* turn to be serenaded !
What makes it even funnier is that it’s Noel and Liam Gallagher, who are most famous for fighting constantly with each other, and still trade barbs at each other even after OASIS broke up, trying to get that kind of song out there. Let’s just say, of Todd’s hypothetical song titles for them, “Oy Liam You Wanker” sounds like one Noel would actually write, if he hasn’t already!
The first time I heard "All Around the World" I didnt know it was 9 minutes long and at like 3 and a half minutes when the key change happened I thought it was the last chorus (foolishly) and thought it was a FANTASTIC song... Then it goes on for another SIX MINUTES. I was laughing my ass off by the end at how absurd it was. Why didnt anyone stop them? Not one person in the recording process said anything to dissuade a catchy single from being nine and a half minutes long... Crazy..
Cause the people singing where all on coke and the people who would keep them in check where also having a date with magic flower as well
They didn't know when to draw the line.
It's so completely absurd and decadent, I actually love it. Plus it's really fun to play live. Without studio magic, you can only make it so big before reaching your limitations, so after a certain point you can just stop giving a shit and make a jam out of it. It's what Oasis did live aswell.
@@torgejh9189 Yeah I agree, as a musician, and music nerd I love it. The double key change, so many layers that my 700 dollar headphones can't even separate them, the 5 minute long jam, it's fun stuff... But they probably lost a lot of money. They could have made the single 3-4 minutes, then when they played live jammed out like this, or released the 3 minute single, then had a redux version later in the album or something. Gotta respect the dedication though
I think "All Around the World" could have been a decent song, if it were half the length and actually had a beginning, middle, and end. Instead, it's one long, long, LONG beginning... and it then mercifully ends.
😂 great comment.
If they faded the song out at the 5:55 mark, or just after seven minutes (like the video), and then put the rest later, it might have been more palatable.
That's the main issue such with you whole album. Most of the songs, at their core, have brilliant elements. But, for some reason... *cough* cocaine *cough*... They were stretched well beyond what they should have been. Plus, the production and mixing bury and distort the melodies and hooks, by layering and layering overdubs. The vocal and guitar overdubs smother the songs themselves and make it so hard to hear that the hell is going on. If the songs had just been structured instead of allowing them to just repeat over and over, and if the mix had been stripped back to allow the songs to breath, I truly believe that this record could have been just as brilliant as their first two.
There is a old as recording or the song and it’s only 3ish minutes long and it’s so much better the the album version
This song “All Around The World” makes Richard Harris’ “MacArthur Park”, and the Beatles’ “Hey Jude” a lot worst.
"Just great rock & roll!" - NME
Is this the guy who gave Bubsy 3D the Gold X award?
Lifechanging, those Bubsy games
Well Dave...I guest I better give this album a listen it sounds like it's good.
That's what we do best at NME.
You better have a money-back guaranTEE!
NME magazine is the worst
Pilot's license? What for?
My dad played none stop Oasis in his car and as as a kid I distinctly remember hating All around the world with a passion.
For me it was Cher’s Life after love. Hate that bloody tune now.
@@kaelibw34 that song has always been shit lol
@@kaelibw34 💯
@@kaelibw34 Ahh nightmare, I feel sorry for your ears..
@@kaelibw34 I've got it stuck in my head now, thanks 😂😂
I went to listen to the album for the first time after watching this review, and I can absolutely confirm that it is 35 minutes' worth of music jam-packed into 75 minutes.
Also: oh my God, the sheer amount of *sound* drenched over everything just makes it such a hard slog of an album. Some tracks have great ideas buried in there, but they are so, so, so buried.
@@jeremybean-hodges6397 if you’ve listened to it enough you know when to just skip. Changes the entire album
@@Lglover3 I have a feeling that if someone edited together a version of this album where every song just fades out at the moment where you should skip it, that’d make it a lot better. I actually went and listened to It’s Getting Better (Man!!), and aside from the production still being ridiculous, I actually really liked it for the first half. Tone down the guitar overdubs and cut the song in half, I could jam to that shit all day
@@TheAdrift It's getting better man is the only song I have a problem with the production with. It's so loud and as Noel said, "It's all chhhhhhh" but that's the one song on the album that should be that long. It uses that time to build up with solos and then throws the chorus back at you in the middle of the song. One of the best moments on the record.
@@Lglover3 that's a solid point but I do not plan on listening to it enough
Wish I could record a train wreck album that sold 8,000,000+ copies
@depressed cockroach yeah on the first day and by the end of week it sold 663.000, and now has reached 8 mil copies
@@MuhammadSiregar Damn, so is it now more successful than What's The Story Morning Glory?
@@davidl570 wtsmg has sold over 20 million copies.
@@LeterPerman Okay, thanks for the info! I KNEW What's the Story was still their most successful album.
@@davidl570 Yep. _Morning Glory_ was by far Oasis's best-selling album and still one of the best-selling British albums of all time, but _Be Here Now_ by no means sold poorly. It's their third to best-selling album at roughly 9 million copies, behind _Definitely Maybe_ at 15 million and _Morning Glory_ at 22.5 million but ahead of _Don't Believe the Truth_ (their best-selling post-1999 album) at 7 million.
“The lyrics are teeny-poppy. But there are three key changes towards the end. Imagine how much better ‘Hey Jude’ would have been with three key changes towards the end.”
- Noel Gallagher, giving my favorite quote in music history, about “All Around The World”
Fuck this
To repost Douglas Adams quote again:
“People now ask if Oasis are as good as the Beatles. I don’t think they are as good as the Rutles.”
Key changes is the hack way of ending a song/making a song sound bigger than it is when you don’t know how to. Paul would have never made a song as important to him as “Hey Jude” include three key changes, because Paul knows that’s lazy writing
Paul was smart with his key changes. Listen to "Penny Lane" and tell me if you noticed that the verse was in B and the chorus in A before the chorus shifted back to B.
JK HGGNS I think the original quote is sarcastic.
Something not a lot of people realize about how this record was the death knell for Britpop is that it came out after both Blur's self titled and Radiohead's OK Computer, and afterwards, The Verve released Urban Hymns, so even if Oasis had made a better record, there was no way they would still be as big as they had been after 1997 since in the same year they were out-Britpop-ed by The Verve, their rivals radically changed their sound and achieved success in the US, and Radiohead completely redefined rock music to the point it exposed how Oasis, even at their best, were just big and loud.
You also had albums like Radiator by Super Furry Animals, Vanishing Point by Primal Scream, Songs From Northern Britain by Teenage Fanclub and Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space by Spiritualized, all emphasising the lack of quality and imagination in Oasis.
"Oasis at their best were just big and loud" Alot of people would disagree with you there!!
So it's like "Nirvana killed my career" but slightly later?
@@TerribleResultsNirvana being dead is what MADE British rock any success in the States. Checkout the documentary Be Here Now, great doc about all those bands from Massive Attack to Pulp to Blur so on…
@@paulanthony5274 "Alot of people would disagree with you there!!"
"Alot of people" is no argument. "Alot of people" thought the world was flat. And "A lot of people" still think it is. "A lot of people smoke" - and it's *still* not good for you.
"A lot of people". An idiot's argument. Argument ad populum is a fallacy.
This album is the equivalent of being full and starving at the same time. It's a bag of chips that is half filled with air
Ya know what I mean?
Yes
And this bag of crisps is advertised by Garry Lineker, I absolutely know what you mean
The best analogy I’ve ever seen
That weirdly makes perfect sense
Water, water, everywhere, and not a drop to drink
my parents were blur fans in the 90s, to the point that they saw blur and oasis as direct rivals. i ended up a blur fan too, and when my parents brought up oasis i wanted to see what they were about. my parents showed me all around the world. i made it through the first fifty seconds.
Your parents are calculating geniuses, as Blur fans to pick THAT song on THIS album to introduce you to Oasis. That’s hilarious.
Wow, I remember the Blur and Oasis rivalry. And I'm from the U.S. I can only imagine it was pretty wild in the U.K.
I was the perfect age at the rivalry in the right place. I bought all their albums when they came out... in fact my first cd ever was Blur Parklife. I actually bought be here now (and the singles from it too). I knew what was up right away
What’s the story morning glory is amazing tho
Gotta say, Be Here Now makes for excellent Blur propaganda
"D'ya know what I mean?" looks solely intended to be played at concerts like a big warm up opener. Like singing it to everybody there, right there right then; and they would surely know what it means. Like an anthem. If it sings alone, it's weird. On a record, it's weird.
And as the rest of the album that keeps putting things over the other and getting bigger and bigger and messier and messier, it reaches out like a scary, schizoid experience. That remembered the best description this album has ever had: "Yes, we made a concept album. The concept is "we did cocaine" "
Literally sounds like an episode of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia"
This was Oasis's Station to Station, but w/o the explosive, artistic and flamethrowing talent that Bowie showed while on cocaine.
@@MalMotorDedo Hahaha so true
I think Do You Know What I Mean is the perfect example of what Todd calls an "I'm back, bitch" single: A big meaningless song reaffirming how big the performers are.
@@EpicB Yes, that is true. But I think both ideas overlap in many ways
They were so huge in the UK that when Oasis was touring the rest of the world, the tribute band No Way Sis would fill arenas.
😆😆😆😆
"I think I've said something like this before, but if I were making the Oasis biopic, it would begin with a scene of Noel and Liam as kids, Liam feeling sad for being beaten up just because he acted like an asshole, Noel cheering him up by playing a new song he just wrote 'All around the world / gotta spread the word / you know it's gonna be okay.' 'You know Liam, one day we are going to be Rock and Roll stars, and we're going to turn this song into the biggest song ever. At several of the early shows they play stripped down versions of the song, at the recording of both Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory they're asked if they want to include the anthem. 'Not yet' says Noel. 'Not until we have the budget to make it fucking right.' The film culminates with a painstaking reconstruction of the recording process of All Around the World, done in black and white, cinema verité style, but also imitating the famous bell-making scene from Andrei Rublev (it goes without saying that my biopic is a 3 hour monster like Nixon or something). Final scene of film is a one-take of Noel, dejected, angry at Liam, coked out of his mind, feeling the dream has gone to shit, putting on the song, the masterpiece he dreamt about since he was a kid, and over 9 painfull [sic] minutes realizing just how bad it is, just how much he fucked it up. For the last couple of minutes he is bawling his eyes out, lying on the floor, snot coming out of his nose. Roll credits, soundtracked by Country House."
- Frederik B, on an ILX forum
I'd pay to see it!!
That sounds awesome, and the Blur song at the end is just hilarious
I just listened to the 2016 re-mixed version of "D'yknow What I Mean" and HOLY SHIT can you hear the difference!! The original has virtually NO bass, it's just this wall of high-pitched white noise that reminds me of trying to listen to Slipknot on crappy computer speakers. The 2016 version levels everything out perfectly so it sounds like an honest-to-god song.
Gabriel Schleifer well, guess I can check that out.
Yeah, it’s a pretty good re-mix, I had never heard the strings on the chorus until I heard the remix.
That said, I still prefer the original, it’s not a great song, but to my mind its “Peak Oasis”, loud, brash and absolutely fucking mental.
10/10 from me.
@@rossgardner9412 I actually like that song a lot. I just love the scope of it, even if it's not really "about" anything. It reminds me of how much bigger the world seemed to me in 1997 (granted I was 6).
Gabriel Schleifer yeah, it was released just after I turned 18, I remember it being a blinding hot summer and I had just finished my schooling and was about to head into proper work.
Life definitely seemed full of possibilities and almost infinite in scope and Britain seemed like the world’s cultural epicentre. Oasis was a massive part of that, it’s difficult to really relay to a person who didn’t see it for themselves just how massive and important Oasis actually were.
Even now I’m getting a big nostalgic feeling thinking about those days!
@@rossgardner9412 You're right, you'll probably never be able to convey ti me how important Oasis were because I attempted listening to their first album a few weeks ago and had to shut it off halfway through. Everything is too loud, I can't stand Liam's voice and all of the songs are generic 60s-style rock. I legitimately can't understand how THAT was one of the best albums of the 90s.
"Tossed off" means something different in the UK.
Is it sexual... Or something?
Mr Boerger yes
@@mrboerger1620 Wanking
It’s about tossing salad mate, (but not the kind of salad you’re thinking).
@@FischerFilmStudio no that's the American meaning. In the UK to toss someone off means to give them a hand job. I remember when watching Lord of the rings the two towers in the cinema, everyone laughed when the dwarf bloke said to his elf friend "you'll have to toss me". I don't know how intentional a joke that was, I don't know if it has the same meaning in new Zealand, but yeah, it was hilarious at the time. Similar situations happened apparently when the avatar last airbender film was in UK cinemas, with the constant calling people a "bender" making everyone there crack up and turned the film into even more of a comedy than it already was.
I sang D'You Know What I Mean at a karaoke bar once, went back next week and it was removed from the catalogue.
Thank you for your service. I would say you've done the Lord's work, but the existence of Oasis is proof that there is no god. Not a just and merciful one, anyway.
@@emilyadams3228what did oasis do to you
It’s hard to imagine how big this album was in the UK. It was released on a Thursday for some reason, but from that Thursday to Sunday it had sold 700,000 copies. To put that in perspective, the closest to this was Michael Jackson’s Bad album that sold 350,000 copies in 7 days. Unreal.
It was released on a Thursday due to fears import copies from the US would arrive in the UK before the official release date there
Don't know if this album singlehandedly killed Britpop but 1997 was definitely the year Britpop became unfashionable. Blur and Radiohead went in very different directions and the only other notable Britpop record that year was Verve's Urban Hymns.
Wasn't Pulp's This is Hardcore 1997? That's a hell of a record. But then again, it's not the happy upbeat brit pop people expected then.
It would be sad if they killed it
Yeah, 1997/8 was when all the coke and misery really piled on. Blur brought out their self-titled and opened it with Beetlebum, The Verve peaked and then left for almost a decade, Suede didn't come back until 1999 and were never quite the same.
Dylan McChald urban hymns was good. And I quite like blurs self-titles album. I wouldn’t call oasis Britpop tbh. I like Blur once they departed away
Dylan McChald urban hymns was a damn good album. I loved it
Don't look back in anger.
Unless you're looking back at this album. Then by all means.
PuppetMaster9 you know nothing about oasis. This album isn't their best and it's not that good but they did better over time and made some good records (not as good as dm and wtsmg)
harry drewitt can't take a joke eh?
harry drewitt So someone comments on this album being bad... in the comments section for a video ABOUT how this album is bad... and your response is “you know nothing about Oasis”? What does that even mean? Did you expect people to be praising fucking Be Here Now? Because I *do* know Oasis, I know their discography inside and out, and let me state, for the record: Despite 2-3 great songs, Be Here Now is a fucking atrocious album.
@@buckleygeneration "Be Here Now is a fucking atrocious album."
Except that's completely subjective.
@@clintbeast-bud8119you are delusional, the only good record better than this one is the last one, which it can be a 7. Then, none of the post Be Here Now records are higher than 6
Trying not to laugh hysterically at Todd losing his mind to all around the world at the end💀
Crazy thing is, Oasis didn't need "All Around The World" thematically speaking. They already had a life affirming, positive song- Live Forever.
Thing is, Noel wrote All Around The World before he wrote Live Forever and saved it for this album .
Its not even about “needing” one tho? I also like AATW a lot more than live forever
I kind of want somebody to make an animation for All Around The World where at first they're marching and all happy, and as it goes on, the more tired and insane they get, the trip just getting to be too much to take.
LimeGreenTeknii That actually sounds like a good idea. And as the video goes on"you can see the increasing hate between the Gallagher brothers.
This is honestly a music video I'd make and now I'm throwing it into the idea pile for if I get off my ass and try making those again
K. Charrette Please update me if and when you do it!
K. Charrette
Dew it! DOOOOOOO IT!
Plz
Just like the whole album.
Yep, this album was 2 kilo bag of cocaine that gained sentience and recorded an album produced by another 2 kilo bag of cocaine. Brilliant, I tell ya. Brillant!
History has shown us that heroin makes much better music than cocaine.
@@mr.anonymous5501 tell that to Fleetwood Mac.
@@tgletgle9980 Fleetwood Mac done their fair share of opiates, but I'm not saying you can't make good music while on cocaine. Some obviously can, mostly those who could while sober, if they got out of their own way. I do agree that Oasis were more cocaine users than heroin, chained to a mirror and a razor blade. I'm not sure if they used heroin at all. I don't think they did.
But heroin's impact on the music business is legendary. Everyone from the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and James Taylor, through Guns 'n' Roses, T-Rex, Aerosmith, and the RHCP, into Alice in Chains, Nirvana, and Sound Garden, past Megadeth, Slipknot, and Pantera, had members who were addicted to heroin at one point. So many bands actually, I don't want to stop listing great bands, so I'm just going to stop, knowing there is plenty more. Also, Grateful Dead and Phish.
And these are just rock based bands. The message would max out before I was 1/16 done, if I mentioned other genres like jazz. Although, remember kids, drugs aren't cool! I spent ten years of my life on that shit, so I'm in no way glorifying their use. As I say, I think there's guys could have done just as well, or even better, while sober if they had the confidence.
@@mr.anonymous5501
Somewhere in the great beyond, Lemmy is laughing his ass off at your nonsense.
Nah, that would be Yes Please! By Happy Mondays
Here in the UK, Oasis were very much hailed as The Beatles for a new generation. After all, both wrote huge anthemic rock songs and had equally huge personalities to match. The difference is that The Beatles had so many more strings to their bow when it came to songwriting: they could go on proggy tangents and fully embrace the esoteric. Oasis were exceptional at writing big no-nonsense rock songs but Be Here Now definitely exposed their shortcomings.
Blur and Pulp were the other big Britpop bands and they've both shown themselves to be more varied in musicality than Oasis. That doesn't mean that Oasis are bad. Even in 2023, they're still a British institution and literal millions of people would be trying to get tickets if they reformed tomorrow. The real problem was that Oasis spawned an entire generation of British guitar bands who just... weren't very good. That probably contributed to rock's slide into irrelevance in modern mainstream music.
Spot on
I really feel Oasis could've done what Radiohead and Damon Albarn (creating the Gorillaz) did, and completely scrub their canvas.
Damon Albarn and Radiohead both left the britpop era behind and became famous even more.
And even though you can change location, worth dynamic, budgeting, you still can't change people, and the Gallagher brothers were coked up, completely done with each other and couldn't stand making music anymore.
What they personally should've done was take a break, cool off, count their winnings, SPEND TIME APART, and decide if they wanted to keep doing this. And if they did, come back either together or separately with broader horizons to share with the world.
Kinda like how every wannabe band in the US in the early to mid 90s wanted to be Pearl Jam or Nirvana but had none of the talent.
The big thing that wasn’t mentioned was The Masterplan, as it’s kinda the other half of the story. There was this great follow up to Morning Glory that was falling into place piece by piece but Noel just didn’t listen to anyone’s advice and insisted on using the material for B-Sides and as filler songs. That record is the follow up that could’ve been, and it’s tantalising to think of how it might have turned out had they stowed the tunes, taken a break and spent some time recording and polishing them.
Instead we got All Around The Fucking World repeated 6,000 times!
That's interesting. I always thought The Masterplan was the closest they came to matching the quality of the first two records. Fade Away is probably my favorite Oasis song.
"Death March of Peace and Love" now that's a song waiting to be written.
Sounds like an emo band.
@@angelaguilar4279 Emo bands aren't self-aware enough to write a song like this lol
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 Emo bands love long and wacky song titles, that's exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from an Emo band in the 2000's.
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 😂😂
I’m defo nicking that
So the lead single of Be Here Now can be seen as a "I'm back bitch" song, right?
Do u know what I mean??
Do u know what I mean??
@@ms.horrible9510 In the long run, Blur won.
Oops.
@@ConnorLockhartYGO Hell, one of its members will create Gorillaz.
If that's not a win, I don't know what else.
@@irvinglambert9316 "13" beats those two Oasis albums by a long mile. You should check it out.
Oasis was a band that always were on the wrong side of the Loudness War, but if you’re gonna write boring songs, and THEN compress all the dynamic range out of them, it’s just gonna be boring, or end up overwhelming the audience to the point of shutting the record off.
Edit: I had mostly missed this record myself, so I wasn’t expecting that last track. I laughed out loud. How on the fucking nose.
The songs on Be Here Now aren’t bad songs at their core. Had they stripped some of the guitars back, made the songs reasonable lengths and swapped Magic Pie and Fade In-Out for Acquiesce and The Masterplan (and maybe also swapped something else for Stay Young) it would have been a killer album
Stay Young was originally supposed to be on the record but Noel in his finite wisdom decided it’d be better to put Magic Pie on there
When Todd introduces “D’ya Know What I Mean?” And says it sounds like Oasis I’m surprised he didn’t say it sounds too much like Oasis since it uses the exact same chords as “Wonderwall.”
I just checked and fuck yes it does
I really wanted him to talk about that! Think of the balls it takes to release a new single with the exact same chords as your massive worldwide hit!
*carefully listens to the instrumental. Starts slowly singing Wonderwalls intro lyrics* hey....yeah, your right! Y'Know what I mean?
Nirvana’s “Dumb” uses the same chords in the verse as Smells Like Teen Spirit. Could be considered hacky but I personally find it brilliant that Kurt found a way to recycle his most famous chord progression into a new song and not only make it good enough to chart but also call it “Dumb”.
@@cognitivedissonance8406 I totally agree. I think Kurt did it on purpose almost as a statement. Oasis was just lazy tho lol
"Piss off, you wankers" is a beautiful way to end a video.
Fun Fact: all around the world is the longest UK number one single in history, with the single version clocking in nine minutes 38 seconds
I believe that Tiny Dancer (Elton John, 6'13") and Bohemian Rhapsody (Queen, 5'56") are closely second and third
@@gab_v250 I thought Hey Jude was in the top three?
@@TimmyTickle Oh. I never thought about it. I always thought it was a 4 minute song. I just realized it's seven minutes and a half...
@@gab_v250 May also have been edited down for single release. I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) by Meat Loaf was a UK number one in 1993, and its album version is 12 minutes; it doesn't hold this record because the single edit is barely five and a half. Oasis would probably tell the producers to piss off if they tried to edit All Around The World down.
That said, George Michael's Jesus To A Child and Queen's Innuendo, number ones in 1996 and 1991, are 6:49 and 6:33 on their Now That's What I Call Music! albums (which mostly went with single edits, American Pie on Now! 20 being a notable exception), so they might be up there.
@@gab_v250i think the most well known version of the song IS 4 minutes. I never even knew there was a 7 minute version of the song.
I remember rushing to pick up the CD the day it came out. Rushed home, tossed it in the old tower stereo system with gigantic stack speakers expecting a rapturous listening experience. By track 3 I was like Ralphie and “Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine.” I stopped it playing, looked up, and uttered “son of a bitch…”
"He told me to stop singing Wonderwall."
"Well, what did you say?"
"I SAID MAYYBEEEE"
"Play Wonderwall!"
"BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW"
I'm a huge Oasis fan (from the UK). You got this mostly spot on - the fact that they didnt really want to do an album, the lazy song writing, the cocaine fuelled excess, all correct. I'd never noticed about DYKWIM being a throw away line but, yep, it is. My only input would be that Stand By Me is a quality tune, you skipped over how good that is, plus the album could have been sooo much better with some of the single B sides swapped in - have you ever heard Stay Young for example? Why they thought Magic Pie was better than that I have no idea. BTW, fun fact - Noel was lazy songwriting and looking for a rhyme for "passer by" in a rhyming dictionary but his coked up brain misread "magpie" as "magic pie".
Please tell me I'm not the only one who dearly loves Falling Down...that one song is a masterpiece
Clearly it was a mistake putting “I Hope, I Think, I Know, when Stay Young sounds similar, and is clearly the better song.
Stay Young or The Fame were definitely better.
I personally think “It’s Getting Better (Man!!)” would have been right up there with their classic tracks if they toned down the ridiculous guitar production that runs rampant through the whole album, and ended it after 5 minutes instead of 7.
Jenn Teal you aren’t, that song is killer.
"And Wonderwall was already permanently etched into the cultural dna."
Damn thats definitely accurate.
And it so predictable and shallow, but pretends to be otherwise
As a songwriter myself, D'ya What I Mean is the kind of song you can write in three minutes, which is so fast you can convince yourself you must be a genius for the feat lol
@@-.-.11 Enjoy ua-cam.com/video/jQdjhQSiW_w/v-deo.html
@@-.-.11 Oh well, at least you gave it a shot. Sorry to tear you away from the -loserdom- zero stakes work of casting aspersions on strangers online. Please resume your cowardice.
@@-.-.11 Says the coward who deleted his original reply. Gfy
@@-.-.11 you lost bro. Take the L
Someone made a video claiming it was about how Noel grew up but I don't buy it
A song of the Gallagher boys arguing CHARTED? God help us if someone has audio tape of Paul and John going at it.
Andy Sorensen Watch the film Let It Be if you want that
Andy Sorensen 😂😂 watch the full tape its fucking brilliant.
Its absolutely hilarious, the Gallagher brothers are arguing over some nonsense shit.
Andy Sorensen I would buy that
Todd's interpretation of the Mancunian accent: Cockney
All Americans seem to think everyone in England speaks with a cockney accent..
@@yodasscrotum true,, but to be fair, could you tell someone from Seattle and someone from Chicago apart from their accents??
You know, i don't think even we Americans could do that very well either.
Kinda got the sense that Todd was trying to portray their cocky snottiness more than an accent
Hence, a ‘cock’ney accent
There was definitely a dash of Australian as well
"Maybe if we play loud, people will think we're good." -Squidward
Once is a fluke, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern.
They almost made it.
The same UK music journos that loved this were panning OK Computer a year earlier.
Journalists love a bit of self-preservation.
I think the record label was leaning hard on the music mags like...
"Oh, your reviewing Be Here Now? Well you best not say anything negative about it or your never getting any interview time with the Gallagher's ever again"
@@MrMcKane Fair enough but the same bum licking journos still panned OK Computer because they are clueless and just want to appear trendy.
@@SpewChoob They also panned What’s the story morning glory for the same reason as you describe
@@badgasaurus4211 But that album was actually good
@@TimmyTickle Which one? OK Computer and What’s The Story are both excellent
Does anyone else get cringy flashbacks to 2006 whenever they hear All Around The World when AT&T had that song in every commercial?
honoshikun I COULDNT FIGURE OUT WHERE I’D HEARD IT BEFORE BLESS YOU STRANGER
The thing is, this video encouraged me to listen to Oasis properly. I found myself liking these songs all the while Todd is just ranting about how terrible they are. So I figured "If THIS is their low, what the hell do their highs sound like?" So I listened to both of the other albums, and I was floored. Then I listened to this one, and I still like it. I guess it's not as good as the other ones, but I've always been a sucker for big, long, cocaine sounding songs that just keep getting bigger, and this album is nothing but that. I can't listen to it in one sitting, but I find myself listening to maybe a quarter of it when I'm feeling kinda down, and it tends to perk me up again. It's like Noel dropped some of the coke he was on into the jewel case and it gets shot into my eardrums every time I put the CD in. So basically, thank you for encouraging me to take digital cocaine, Todd.
This was me three years ago I also got into oasis because of this video
I checked out What's the Story Morning Glory in large part because of this video, and I found it excessively mediocre. I might give Definitely Maybe a chance but after WtSMG I don't feel a strong desire to do so at all.
Melodically the album is actually very strong. It has more hooks than most bands manage to muster in a career. But it's massively overlong, overproduced and generally obnoxious. Oasis songs always had a fair bit of gibberish in them prior to this, but they managed to sell it artistically. Not here, the balance is off by too much. It's a shame, because there's a very good album in there with a different edit.
Also, Oasis has been putting Beatles references in their songs since DM. Wonderwall is literally named after a George Harrison album.
Wonderwall was a movie Harrison wrote the soundtrack for
Creaky Boards
“Be Here Now” is a phrase said by...you guessed it, George Harrison.
Supersonic mentions “Yellow Submarine”.
@@cremetangerine82 maybe John Lennon?
Tony Matveev
Good call! Although I was thinking of the George Harrison song.
Morning glory namedrops Tomorrow Never Knows
Don’t forget The Masterplan (The B-sides) was as good as their first two albums
The 20th Anniversary release of this album contains the stripped down demos which sound a lot better.
GergelAni my apologies. It’s the 20th Anniversary Deluxe album. You can find the demos on UA-cam. You can find them on UA-cam under “Be Here Now Mustique Demo”
@@turnupthesun81 Ah, right. I have them, mate. Have the cd's and the LP's as well. I love them! 👍
"I Hope, I Think, I Know" is their most underrated song. Can't believe it wasn't a single.
Brilliant song
I think one problem Oasis always had was you take that chorus and the end of the song is just that over and over and over. sometimes it works like Live Forever but then other times it's like "I get it!"
Yeah that makes sense...I can't help but notice that the people in the comments defending this album consistently defend the quality of the melodies and describe how they like to "just put the songs on" - aka, as background music.
I mean...I do get easily obsessed with melodies I like. In the past when choosing to play music from one of my devices, I've put on the same ~40 seconds of music on a loop, over and over, for hours...but, if the artist released a 5 minute single that was literally just that same melody looped 7 times...it would deserve all the criticism and be a shit song! The brain is stupid - and the standards for background music are also on a completely different level.
I do empathize with the people in the comments just sharing that they personally enjoy playing the album...I find their reasons interesting, as long as their comments include a disclaimer that they acknowledge the music's faults. Especially when they ultimately end up describing how they just don't actively HATE the album and don't mind it playing in the background while they're doing something else - or just lost in thought, which still counts as background music in my opinion.
_(And ironically, a melody bite I love can be put into/from a song that I don't like listening to, that's too long and repetitive, (even if I don't hate any one part in particular)...yet, I'll cut out that bit of main melody I like, loop it, and for some reason, I can enjoy listening to it over and over...played on a loop for a period of time that is muuuch longer than the OG song I took it from and prefer over. The brain is weird.)_
Sorry, that's my rant. 😅✌️
Suede and blur definitely changed direction at this time so that helped kill britpop
The Travis albums The Man Who and The Invisible Band were so good
Travis and Coldplay happend stereophonics got bigger verve hit big. Blur moved on into some of their best tunes beatlebum song 2. Suede never even noticed what they was doing. R&B hip hop started taking over.
Radiohead and The Verve changed the whole scene in 97, and Oasis were old hat.
Everyone else had moved on. Ok Computer, Blur and Urban Hymns all came out in 97, Coming Up by Suede and Everything Must Go by the Manics came out the year before. Oasis ended up left behind and sounding like a parody
@@richardturpin3665 Around 97 both in the US and the UK music turned more pop in general. In the US you had boybands and pop divas like Britney and Christina Aguilera and even Will Smith came back while in the UK you had the Spice Girls. As far as rock in the US it went very bad with post-grunge crap like Creed, terrible Nu metal (Limp Biskit) and pop punk. In the UK so called post-britpop was good but much less exciting that britpop had been unless you were melancolic (coldplay) or intelectual existentialist (Radiohead) while Blur first got inspired by US indie (selftitled album) and later made an awesome melancolic psychedelic album (13). In general I think i like the early 90s over the late 90s.
“...It’s more like the last hour of a party that’s raging long after the fun stopped, and everyone should’ve gone home...”
As much I love Oasis and actually enjoyed BHN, Todd knocked it out of the ball park with his assessment on the album’s sound.
Best episode of Trainwreckords, by far ♥️
I’m realizing that both Todd and several of the commenters were teenagers when Oasis came out, which definitely explains a lot of the nostalgia for them. I would have lost my mind if the twin slabs of Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory defined my teenage definition of Big Huge Rock Band. When I started thinking about what my Gen X equivalent would be, I realized: Guns N Roses. A band that came from fucking nowhere to completely dominate the rock scene, bigger than anything you could imagine, massive hit album (Appetite for Destruction), and an absolute catastrophe of an ego-fueled bloated disaster follow-up (Use Your Illusion) that stopped them cold. In fact, why haven’t we seen the Trainwreckords about Use Your Illusion? That would be perfect fodder.
I agree that there are definitely parallels. Both bands arguably represent both the zenith and nadir of a music scene, which seems to be reflected in the quality of their releases over time, which is interesting isn't it? I wouldn't say they're generationally separated though, not for me anyway, speaking as a fellow Gen X. They each represent an important phase in my formative musical life. Our generation was musically as blessed as any can ever be, I know that much.
Really? Use Your Illusion, disasters? They're generally considered good-to-great records, successes of their time- plus, unlike Be Here Now, the big hits of this record were numerous and are still known and played and loved to this day. November Rain, Don't Cry, You Could Be Mine, The Knock on Heaven's Door & Live and Let Die covers..
GnR could totally quality for a Trainwreckords episode, but it'd best go to The Spaghetti Incident (GnR not knowing what the hell they were doing) or Chinese Democracy (Gnr, or more specifically Axl Rose, going off the rails).
Use your illusion are great albums lol
Lol UYI were great!! The Spaghetti Incident? Would be a much better album to cover!
Used your ilusion is bloated and all of that, but that album packs way too many hits to be a "trainwrecord". Don't cry, November Rain, Estranged, You could be mine...
I love how well written and paced this review is. You have perfect timing.
I'm so glad this series is continuing!
Be Here Now is a frustrating album. If Noel trimmed 20-25 minutes from it and ditched Magic Pie I think there's a very good 45-50 minute album hiding in there.
Throw in "Going Nowhere" and "Stay Young" as well to replace the duds and you got a classic album right there.
It's incredible how many Oasis b-sides are better than their album tracks, and even singles. I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides.
The Beatles, The Stones and The Smiths all have great B-sides too. Noel says he learned to understand the value and art of good b-sides from these guys. Oasis and Radiohead were the last big bands to honor that tradition. You could also say these bands were also making the same mistake of not making certain B-sides the singles or album tracks instead.
Adam Weishaupt "I don't think any band has a better collection of b-sides." Smashing Pumpkins easily especially considering a lot of their B-sides from both Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are better than a lot of the songs from those albums, and those albums are both already fantastic (I'd go as far to say that Mellon Collie is one of the Top 5 best double albums of all time.) As far as The Beatles? Idk, their A-sides were definitely better in general.
KrisJM1234 Muse has a pretty good collection of B-sides as well
Love the show. I know I’m behind, but I’d love to see more albums covered.
Saw that dumb tweet calling this a perfect album and immediately thought of this video.
D'Ya Know What I Mean is also literally the same chords as Wonderwall...exactly the same. Acoustic versions of this song start out exactly like Wonderwall.
This. The guys just changed the lyrics while stoned and added layers to make it seem bigger
And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds.
"And Noel had the balls to say Green Day ripped them off when Boulevard of Broken Dreams used the same chord changes. I think that's what pisses me off the most about this album, odd as that sounds.
"
Well, Boulevard of Broken Dreams was a better song than D'You what I mean? Perhaps Noel was hurt that he didn't get all the royalties to that song the way The Rolling Stones got all the royalties to The Verve's Bittersweet Symphony (a fact that gets in the way of me loving and adoring the Rolling Stones)
GeoNeilUK To be fair, it literally is the same as the rolling stones song. Just slowed down and using the orchestral version as the backing track. Though it cut out the best bit, the chorus. The stones version of the song is way better, has way more energy. Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades
"Maybe I'm just a bit sick of bittersweet symphony being way overplayed for the last two decades"
Well, if the Stones are licensing the song, I remember Richard Ashcroft being less than pleased about the tune he was getting no royalties for being used to flog average cars (Don't buy Vauxhall cars, they're shite!)
Smh Todd using a cockney accent when Oasis are manc
Brits are Brits
Rock21 no
@@Rock-iw7ov you sound ignorant saying this
@@Rock-iw7ov No lol
There's a wide range of English accents. The cockney accent sounds nothing like the Manchester accent, or the Newcastle accent.
@@joelww2501 I understand that completely, I was just messing around with the guy who pointed out that Todd didn't know the difference between British accents as an American, so probably wouldn't know the regional dialects of Britain
1 MIL!!!! CONGRATS TODD!!!
Your dissection of Oasis here is spot on. Every criticism you level is completely deserved. The thing is, I still love it. For all of its coke fueled self-indulgence, it's still a great album. In fact, some of the unplugged tracks really shine. The acoustic version of Stand By Me is stellar.
Thanks again for another great post, it's always a treat to see you've uploaded something new.
Don't Go Away makes this album worth it. Ah, the memories of crying over my ex-girlfriend when I was 14 as I burned with a fever while listening to this song will never go away.
I agree. "Don't Go Away" makes the entire album worth buying. It's the "Wonderwall" of this album.
20 bucks says he wrote it during the morning glory sessions
@ElyC West i meant as in worthy of existing. If Be Here Now got erased from hisrory that song would be lost. That song to me made this album worthy of being made.
@@JeremyForTheWin how are you verified with 300+ subs?
Never mind
Totally agree
I love how he looks like he's singing while handcuffed.
Yeah, really cringy. Most vocalists are energetic, yet this bastard stands like a tool. Yuck.
The last song being a reprise of a 9 minute song
I audibly gasped
Firstly, the idea of the Gallagher brothers having a charting *argument* is just hilarious!
Secondly, I hadn't watched this episode in a couple years. However, I knew what the twist was thanks to reading about the show on TV Tropes. It had me dying from laughter again! 🤣
I guess you could say that Oasis' time...just dried up.
Their desert's got to miss the rain something fierce.
Caz did they at least get the girl? 👧
Someone aught to bless the rains...
Their original name was The Rain before Noel funny enough
(claps)
Caz well you know what they say
once you're so high up,the only place left to go is down
but they literally were really high the time
It’s a shame that their relevance dropped after this point. Don’t Believe The Truth and Dig Out Your Soul had some amazing tunes on it.
DBTT is awesome! Mucky Fingers is a great song
Yes! Those two albums deserve way more recognition than they get.
Oasis had some great records after Be Here Now
No one appreciates The Importance Of Being Idle as much as they should
Dig Out Your Soul is a great farewell album, and an amazing heavier rock album in its own right.
I just never get tired of any of Todd's videos.
Then explain your view counts for his Haddaway video.
"You have to go back to the Beatles' 'Revolver' for a set whose every constituent could be spun off into the singles chart."
"Boston" by Boston: "Am I a fucking joke to you?"
This album is like the Oasis version of St. Anger: songs that should've been 4 minutes long, stretched out to 7 or 8 minutes for no good reason, awful mixing, conflict between band members, etc.
At least this album has no trash can snare
well put.I don't like Oasis at all so it's all shite to me but right on comparison
Metallica isn't really pop music, so I doubt that it'll get a trainwreckord. But it would be awesome if it did.
One Hot Minute by the Chili Peppers also comes to mind
@@cutecobra9696 WELL WOULD YA BELIEVE IT
Nothing kills a band like endless empty praise
Except for Tyler the Creator apparently
Fair point...
and yet they managed to sell out stadiums as far as South America in 2009, 15 years after DM and morning glory
Well, Tyler is actually, ya know... good.
@Nathan Shlapobersky Could you elaborate please?
Also, you have an annoying name to reply to.
Growing up in the UK during the 1990s I can't begin to express to people how unbelievably huge Oasis were over here.
Stand By Me is now probably best known in the UK for appearing on adverts for a bank. This somehow feels appropriate
This was seriously the only Trainwreckords request on Patreon? I'm surprised no one wanted to hear your thoughts on albums like Chinese Democracy, Lulu, The Beginning, Scream, St. Anger, and so on. And who knows, maybe you'll be featuring America, the latest Thirty Seconds to Mars album, on this series. But, I guess we can save those for another day.
Oh, The Beginning. I have to see Todd rip that album apart.
Chinese Democracy came out 15 years since the last time people gave a shit about GnR.
Lulu is such a great request!!
>Chinese Democracy
Could've been the greatest album ever made and it still would've been seen as a disappointment with all the hype. The fact that it's a mediocre album just made it worse. The Duke Nukem Forever of music.
>Lulu
It's a Lou Reed album that just so happens to have Metallica on it. It's a vanity project.
>The Beginning
Agreed
>Scream
The Chris Cornell album? I'm not well-versed in Chris Cornell's discography, so no comment.
>St. Anger
Agreed.
>The new 30STM album
Oh god are they still a thing? I legit haven't heard a song of theirs since...2010ish. And OH MY GOD JARED FUCKING LETO IS THEIR LEAD SINGER WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS EARLIER?
Boy, thirty seconds to mars is still going?
Even after Leto got shat on after suicide squad? I’d thought he’d go good on his promise and go live a cave after that embarrassment.
In the Japanese release, the bonus track is a demo of All Around The World!
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Fuckin’ hell
That's some good detective work, pal
7:28 I mean you joke but you also already established that a song named 'Oi Liam, you Wanker!" would likely chart.
If I had a nickel for everytime Todd compared a tranwreckord to the Phantom Menace, if have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
"All the people right here right now, do you know what I mean, yeah yeah" was VISIONARY. Oasis invented nonsense constructing spambots DECADES ahead of time!
Do you know what I mean actually sucks though
@@richardroberson2564 But you gotta respect the VISION
Your being ironic here aren't you.
It's honestly kinda weird how this album went from "Fastest-Selling Record in British History" to "Trainwreckord."
too much inertia from morning glory will do that to ya
Personally, if “D’You Know What I Mean” had a better chorus and dialed back the strings a bit, I think it would’ve been a pretty good song, I actually really like everything else about the song
Plus cutting off the goddamn 2 minute feedback outro
Yes, less cocaine and more restraint could have turned a lot of these songs around. But... that's kind of the point. It's like saying "Trumpets" would be a good song if Jason Derulo wasn't filling the lyrics with sleaze ball nonsense. Yeah, unfortunately it's Jason Derulo.
I love these segments. Please make more.