2011 lexus IS F, valley plate leak repair
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- this repair is apply to all the 2ur-gse engine.
2007-2014 Lexus IS F (USE20)
2014-Present Lexus RC F (USC10)
2015-Present Lexus GS F (URL10)
2017-Present Lexus LC 500 (URZ100)
Piece of added advice-The shop that did mine replaced the valley plate with a new one as they can warp. They also used a RTV sealant used on UPS trucks that is good for a million miles (so they say). I wouldn't want to use the same sealant that went bad unless Toyota has an improved version. I still can't figure out why they just didn't use a gasket. This was on a 2011 IS-F as well. And all the injector clips will need to be replaced. Great Video-thank You.
Finally Finally, I mean finally someone did a VIDEO repair of VPL on these ISF, thank you for this VIDEO
Not many on the road that why
@@alltsab Yes you right about that
@@alltsab do you do these on regular?
Thank so much for this video I bought my ISF last year and I notice my heater would get cold when it’s at idle during the winter. I work at a Lexus dealership and my technician said it’s your valley plate and i saw forms saying $1000 to $2000 for just replacing the seal but I haven’t seen any major coolant leaks but I do check on it but again Thank You because you’re literally the only person that has made a video for this.
You welcome
This is an awesome video. I actually watched the entire video twice. My Son’s ISF’s Valley plate is leaking. Heading to Fresno soon.
Thanks
Thank you for filming this! I wish it was more detailed, but I understand. I really do appreciate your work & effort.
I try to put more detail but some time waste a lot time to watch
Taking stuff off isn’t my problem, putting it back is. Great video btw!
Thanks
Probably the first and only complete video covering one of the two most common problems on the ISF (the other issue being a cracked manifold).
Thank you so much for posting this!
I had mine repaired at the dealership in 2018 and it would've been a $2500 dollar job but I had extended warranty.
Wow that is very expensive. It only cost my friend $300 he is lucky.
@@alltsab Is your friend in a mafia? I'd love to get a deal like that from Lexus. Hahaha!
@@lester2392 😄 close enough 😆 good friend got the best deal.
You’re a legend mate.
That’s brilliant job, hard though. Appreciate much that you’ve shared this stuff with Lexus owners.
My LS460 awaits this job to be done; roll sleeves up.
Thank you 😊 happy Thanksgiving
Thank you sooooo much. Doing this repair this weekend and now this video gives me all the confidence I needed. Looks pretty straight forward. Not many videos like this on our IS-F. Thank you once again.
U welcome
Nice work man, when mine starts leaking I’m coming to you!
Thanks
that sigh at 2:03, rofl, that was my exact reaction to starting this job. excellent video
Super helpful, working my ISF in two weeks once all parts are available
Thanks
You're the best mechanic thank for VDO😎👍
You welcome don't forget to help subscribe to support me.
Thank you for this I just found out mine is leaking as I was installing my oil air seperator and realised. If anyone else can make more detailed step by step videos soon will be good.
Hope someone can do but I think no one will do it because not many of these car out there. Not just that it take too much time to film it.
@@alltsab Lucky for you the 1UR-FSE has the same problem! I put mine back together today only to realize that the valley plate did not seal, coolant all over the ground. Not sure where I went wrong, I'm wondering if I accidentally over-torqued the bolts causing the FIPG to squish out too far..?
I should have tested it prior... but It did only happen after the coolant system was under pressure.
@@1OMEGA111 I gave everyone warning about leak test before closing everything in my video. Check the 2 o-ring you may accidentally twist it while you install.
@@alltsab Ah no, I found this video today while trying to find why it leaked. I should have tested it, but was under the impression that It would need to be leak tested while the engine was running. Though it did only seem to start leaking after it was under pressure... I Did not realize it was possible to test while the intake was off.
I was thinking that as well, though I dipped the o-rings in coolant to act as something of a lubricant during install. So I dont think they'd be twisted, but maybe pushed out of the groove? Though the orings are my guess for the leak as the only issue I can think of with the plate would be that it was over-torqued, I set my torque wrench to 15ftlbs but could have tightened a few bolts a few ftlbs over, though I cant imagine the difference of a few ftlbs would have caused that much of a leak.
@@stevekalesia3922 I pinched the oring on the large pipe that connects the plate to the pump. It got caught and rolled backwards when I put it in so it was just spewing coolant
Replaced it and more carefully installed the plate, on a side-note, I just took it apart again for a different reason and the seal has held (I used permatex "the right stuff" rtv)
Loved your video! I know some guys in Cali that might need the job done; so if you're up for and wanna get payed let me know, I'll be sending them your way good sir! God bless 🙌
Great video. I had mine done at the dealer. I can see why the car was gone for a week.
How much they charge you?
@Isaac Chavez 800 still a lot but cheaper than 2k at the dealership.
Just a piece of advice, the fuel injectors will and can crack upon removal and installation. More on the driver side
each injector is around 350 at the dealer (US) a rebuilt injector is a waste of time they will crack just plugging them in or trying to
remove the pigtail. BE extremely careful, I have done a few the last one I did takes the cake. Under that intake is a motherload of heat that fries everything. The other part of this video I did not have to pull the starter wire I hung the harness over to the driver side with a tie.
You don't have to remove the injectors for this repair.
Amazing I love it. Well done.
nice video clean explanations i see the camera work too 👍👍
Just a tip..the primary injector harness does not need to be disconnected. I just did this repair and you can zip tie the harness out of the way.
Nice to meet you,It was helpful.👍😊
Thank you so much for sharing! Outstanding work!
You welcome buddy very appreciated 🙂👍
Thank you. Always love your videos. Awesome info and help me learned so much. Please continue to make more videos.
Thanks
Very nice video. Thanks a lot!
Look at all the plumbing you have to remove to get to the valley.
What a minefield
Ive heard this V8 has a reputation for leaking in the valley
How long did the job take i bet 8-10 hours
Such a shame that gorgeous intake manifold is hidden below all those wire looms.
thanks dude, very helpful video for my knock sensor repair wich the same way to remove the intake manifold
You welcome buddy
thanks for posting this!
You welcome
Can you tell us what the part numbers were for o-rings and gaskets?
My recomendation for you is to post those part numbers in your video description as well
My 2nd recomendation is to set up accounts with Amazon, Walmart etc to do "drop shipping" account and add the link into your descriptionfor these parts this way you get a small percentage and people can just click link to go straight to part.
You can do that with all your videos you use parts in. 😂
Thank you so much My brother! GOD BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.
Thank you for the advice. Sometimes I'm not the one who buy the part so I don't have the part number.
amazing work .. Love the content !!
Thank
@AllTsab I just liked and subscribed to you! First time seeing a video on the ISF Valley Plate Leak fix.
I wish I lived in Cali, because when the inevitable time comes for my repair, I'm gonna be a grown ass man crying as I do it :o
Thank you so much for helping subscribe. Hopefully your car don't have this issue.
@@alltsab I'm currently at 164k now on my 2008 and am fine for now, but this VPL issue appears to be an inevitable failure for all of these engines :(
@@aminort2 I know it's poor design for most toyota that have V engine.
@@aminort2 it doesn't happen to all of them man. I know a guy that has roughly 250k miles on his 08 and still sign of it.
I think I was applying silicone wrong, took of manifold off 3rd time now. Gunna try silicone way you did it. This is for my Tundra, thank you
Mistake is no big deal in your own car it's just a learning process and that will the best teacher you ever learn from it.
@@alltsab 100 % agree
I take of intake manifold in like 15 minutes now lol.
Thank you :)
The heat exchanger(top piece) can sometimes develop tiny cracks, so even though you sealed it properly, it still leaks, maybe better to buy new heat exchanger.
@ Actually ended up doing that!
Amazing job 👍🏽
Good and excellent video... follow you from Mexico Amigo
Thank you amigo
This leak is an issue on many is f's not just the odd one or two
The gasket fails because it deteriorates with age. It is an inferior material not able to stand up to heat and pressure.
This should be a warranty issue
It is/was warranty covered issue BUT it should be a lifetime warranty coverage type of issue because it is a flaw from the manufacturer on these beauty's.
At 17:13 you stopped the video when you were about to install the valley plate , can you explain to me how you got it in that easy? What did you move at the firewall? The reason I’m asking you as it’s very tight space at the fire wall. I removed the wire harness, and the fuel line hose and still had difficulty aligning the plate with out touching the sealant
Thanks 🙏
Lube the o-ring little bit and play around little bit should slide right in. You must take the stud in the alley out to be easy fit in.
All Tsab yes I already did take the studs out , lubed the o rings, and removed the fuel line ( firewall) and installed it without disturbing the sealant. Thanks
Thanks for this video! I'm looking for a 2nd hand IS-F, how can I see if the valley plate is leaking before buying the car?
Jack the car up you can see signs of leaking mark where the transmission and engine connected. If you buy this car just expecting the problem a head.
Well, I was contemplating buying one of these cars, but what a nightmare of vacuum lines and electrical spaghetti smothering up the intake manifold. Too excessive. Valve cover gaskets look like they would be a nightmare too. What a bummer.
Hello. If you don't smell antifreeze then you don't have this issue correct ? I just want to do preventative maintenance on my ls460 and heard this is common. Thank you so much
Not really if still still leak you probably don't smell it
Nice video. I don't have a valley plate on my 97 es300 but nice to know anyway
I think mine must have been replaced at some point my isf has over 215,000 miles
Did you use any kind of tool to pull starter connector? It is very tight in there and my hands can fit to pull connector out
@@mikepgon63 small flat screw driver
@@alltsab I’m trying to just not enough space to wiggle around.
I commend you for doing this HARD JOB, i am a mechanic and i dread doing my 2011 ISF. THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS VIDEO. Have you done PPE headers on the ISF " I'M SURE YOU COULD" all the best to you and your family cheers from OZ
Thanks buddy one of this day if I run across one that need head job I will do.
@@alltsab Are you a mechanic, because you seemed to know exactly what your doing, how many IFS valley plates have you done, kudos to you, pitty i live in OZ but maybe you can come over cheers from OZ.
@@navaho5430 i haven't done many isf but almost every toyota engine very similar
It's not a hard repair, just time consuming. You dont need to spend the $ on the toyota fipg sealant, just use permaseal "the right stuff"
Should I be gentle with the acceleration once the repair has been made?
No you can drive as normal
Where do you live bro, and how much do you charge for this? By the way The Sounders is the best band ever.
Central cali 😆
Wow...bit of a mission, but take your time and do it yourself rather than $1,000 labour at the dealership.
gotta do my direct injection soon :(
He didn't even bother to cover the intake ports while he was working, lol!!!
Thug life
One quick question. The black foam piece on top of the valley plate is important to reinstall ?
I need to change the fuel rail pressure sensor and because of that black foam I can see it not even with an endoscopic camera. Am sure am not placing back.
Already u have a headache..😂😂stop crying get it done im watching u
Great job bro, you must be Hmong with the Sounders song lol
Lol😁😁
My isF has bubbles in the coolant tank but there’s no overheat u think it’s the valley plate?
All Tsab you need to move to Toronto, Canada. There seem to be a lack of good mechanics.
Sure I like Canada 🇨🇦
Sir Iam in the center valley to and my Lexus ls460 is leaking coolant From the valley plate are u available thanks.
when you are putting the top back on at 16:52 it looks like there is a rubber gasket on there too not just silicon??? where is that from please?
All silicone no gasket
Good job, have you done it in lexus RCF? Any vid?
Not yet I don't have anyone I know own one yet but I will definitely if I have an opportunity to work on one I will record and post it. However, all lexus should be very similar to each other.
Hi,
How much torque do you tighten the Valley Plate?
15nm or 21nm?
What parts do you need when doing this job? Besides the sealant ofc😂
That's all you need
What’s up brother Tsab, would you happen to remember the part # for the 2 O-ring gaskets? I’m about to repair my leak as well.
I don't have the part number but you can call lexus
Thanks, I was able to find them. How much do you charge for this job?
So the valley is cooled?
Yed
That motor looks like a disaster of overcomplication, and the wire harness is exposed to too much heat
@@joelandersonphoto And yet folks have over 300k miles and are still pushing these cars. Not overcomplication. That is most motors today. Ironically enough despite all of that it's a pretty amazing engine with little issues if any.
Great video!! part number for the o-rings?
I don't have the part number
O-Ring part # 9676135035
parts.lexusofqueens.com/p/Lexus_2008_IS-F-50L-AT/Engine-Coolant-Pipe-O-Ring/62977035/9676135035.html
How long it take u to do this lexus dealer say 8h labor cost me like 1,585 ....
Yes about 6 to 8 hours job
Will it leak again?
Toyota never last forever so I think the way this car design definitely soon hit 100k or more it will leak again.
Where are you located I need this done on my ISF
Hi, how long do you expect the fix to last before it leaks again? or do you think the fix is permanent?
No clue because poor design of it. I can say if you prepared very good as I do it should last minimum of 10 years
Is there a torque for the knock sensor bolts?
Yes but almost people hand tight it
I have a 2012 with a coolant leaking valley plate, are you in southern California?
Can you reseal my car?
Is not that hard to take the intake out. The only thing that is to the sensor behind the starter that all. You can do it buddy. I'm in central ca.
@@alltsabhi how can I get in contact with you, I’d like to have this done and very close to central cal
Friend what do you film with? Phone? If so what model phone? It’s clear with great audio
Hero 3 silver cheap go pro
All Tsab I’ve been wanting to make videos. But I can’t find a good simple video on how to make them. So you simply record on a Go-Pro then pause it when necessary when moving and mounting it into a car or you just leave it on and edit walking around with it out?
What editing software you use?
I’ve thought about just using my phone but I don’t think it’s possible for long detailed videos, at least from what I see most nearly all use a Go Pro.
Is a Labtop or computer a must?
Reason I ask is I disconnected my land internet in favor or Unlimited Cell data and I’ve been doing everything on my phone for years. Even Powerselling on Ebay, 1,700+ feedback all from my IPhone.
@@Mr.Beastforpresident I edit in my computer and used my phone to upload to the UA-cam. You can used any free video editing to edit. Use the most simple and friendly editing tool so you won't frustrate. The reason I saying it because you don't need to do a lot graphic fancy editing. If you getting better with the simple one then you can try to move on to the higher end one. By the way did you help subscribe to my channel yet? Please help subscribe and share too ok thanks.
All Tsab Yes, I subscribed about a month ago. I have YT Premium, I watch more YT than tv.
@@Mr.Beastforpresident thank
Did you let the silicone fully cure before testing it with the intake manifold off?
Yes
@@alltsab okay thank you! Going to tackle this job in 2 days and want to just make sure I fully understand, great video
@@JacobyAldrich good luck to you my friend ❤
Is it same for 2011 Lexus GX460 4.6L? Thanks G
No but similar to most toyota and lexus v6 and v8
@@alltsabThank you very much!!!
Can you please do a ls 460 Valley Plate disassembly video?
460 Should be similar with 500 because the 300 also similar. I think the 460 will easier not that pack like the ISF
I don't have a vehicle atm but in the future I do one if available.
Kumusta! The LS 460 has the same wiring loom hornets nest above the intake manifold. The intake manifold is plastic though and should be lighter....you can make a killing doing this gasket service on late model LS 460 which is prone to leak. Thanks again!
I would replace that knock sensor harness as well. Every valley plate I’ve done on the ls460 has needed the harness replaced do to brittle connectors.
@@rzqdzn might as well while it's all open. That hose too
Can you fix mine??
I made this video for you to fix your
Hi I recently did a valley plate job on my lexus ls460 and I have this problem when I put it all back together any idea whats causing this
Poorly prepared caused it leak
@@alltsab watch the video i posted
I put the video link in the comments.
you said you used water to check if it was leaking after you had replaced it. How do you drain it all afterwards?
I mean coolant not regular water. You don't need to drain it out because it's coolant already.
Ok because I'm doing the valley plate now and after I let it cure, I filled it up with coolant and it always leaks so I'm trying to see if there's another way to test it out. I'm tired of buying bottles of coolant at a time lol
@@VuNguyen-sg3uo where it leaking from ? The valley plate or the tube o-ring. Make sure no leak before cover everything up. Good luck buddy
It was leaking from the o ring and I got new ones so I'm going to keep trying until no more leak lol
@@VuNguyen-sg3uo ok maybe when you insert it twist the o-ring that why it leak put some silicone in to suplicate it will go smoothly
Heard that pink toyota coolant causes leaks. Red toyota coolat is ok. Is that true ?
No not true. Pink is mix 50/50 red is need to mix that all
@@alltsab you are talking about pink-super long life and Red -longlife? Which one is recomended for isF /rcf?
@@ukaszsl.6242 pink is good
@@alltsabone Man on UA-cam says that those fluids are different fluids( different acids ) bullets Garage
Do you know number for gasket on metal tube
Sorry no
Whats the cost for a job like this
For me a case of corona, dealer in the thousands
Question- Did you drain the coolant from the radiator before you start ? TIA
Yes
And the block too or just the radiator?
@@jaysil7083 just radiator
Thanks sir! Appreciate you for answering Will be doing the Job in the next few days
@@jaysil7083 you welcome buddy please help support subscribe to my channel okay thanks
The silicone that you used, is that safe for coolant?
Toyota made this silicone for this purpose so I will say yes 100% safe for coolant.
Not f-sport it’s an F
Damn I wanted an ISF but after seeing this I think I'll stick with the 350 lol
How did you manage to get the starter signal wire off? What did you use?
Very difficult to get it off i used ring plier
I just started tacking this one and the only thing now preventing me moving the whole harness to the side is removing that one connector. I honestly don't know how he managed to do it. There is like no clear access to the damn thing.
Awesome mechanic
How did you take out the starter connector?
Very hard, my hand small so I reached in the back to pull it out. As shown in the video I used a little pick to pry the clip then pull it out. Take me a long time on that clip
Is the clip release tab facing down or up?
Are you located in California?
Yeah this dudes in Fresno
@@topflight5592what’s his address?
How long did this actually take you to do? 1 day 2 days 3 days
2 hours
@@alltsab You are a madman...and a mastermind. wish i had a mechanic like you around!
Joseph A. Lololol totally
What area are you in? I’m in need of a vp repair :/
Central California
What area code you from??
New subscriber, hello my friend where can i find you so you can repair my isf lexus.
Thanks for the subscribe. I'm in central california my friend.
Friend Carb cleaner will swell up O-rings. Spray carb cleaner on the old O-rings and see for yourself
You absolutely right but you have to wait for it dry out first. I used Carb cleaner is dry fast so I don't have to wait long. Thanks for a great advice.
All Tsab Why not Orielly brake cleaner on a rag? I find Orielly brake cleaner works better than any other brand I’ve tried including CRC
Also, I would have used Permatex Ultrablack Gasket Maker ( pictured below ) instead of the clear silicone again, the clear silicone failed once. The Ultrablack is extremely tough. BUT I could be wrong, you may know something I don’t.
Please correct me if I’m wrong. I have 20+ years experience BUT there’s many things I don’t know. Still learning everyday.
www.permatex.com/products/gasketing/ultra-series-gasket-makers/permatex-ultra-black-maximum-oil-resistance-rtv-silicone-gasket-maker-4/
All Tsab Great Videos by the way 👍👍👍 great channel. You do quality work done right. You’re good at what you do, most other mechanics and shops are half@ss, use cheap non-OEM quality parts and don’t believe in Torque Wrenches
@@Mr.Beastforpresident ultra black is what I always been used too thanks.
Is this the same for a gx460?
I will say similar to each other.
How much does a job like this cost?
If Lexus work for you it could be 1500. People you know could be 300 to 500
@@alltsab ok thanks
What would be the price for this ? Might have to make the drive up to u :)
😆 lol could be in the thousands at the dealer
@@alltsab but for you to do your magic
@@divadb8my magic less than a case of corona lol
@@alltsab whaat?? I got 5 cases for u then lol
Anyone fix this with radiator stop leak?
In my opinion you have a nice car don't used those garbage stop leak it will create cluster problems to your system. It will clog up your radiator and heater core.
How much would you charge to do my valley plate on Ls460, beers on me (:
I’m in norcal
I did my friend car he just buy me lunch only. Lol
Hmmm I’ll keep that in mind, right now I thought I had a leak refilled resovoir 2 days no leak. Might check water pump first if coolant goes down
@@BasedSwaghoe check your radiator tank beside the reservoir. Sometime the reservoir have coolant but tank is low in coolant.
Would this be the same on a 2008 ls 460 ?
Similar to each other. Toyota build their car not so much difference.
All Tsab thanks man great video 👍
@@julianquijano5312 help subscribe for me ok
Hey, you're Hmoob! Where are you from?
This dude is from Fresno I've seen him around town
Om shocked to learn that they used silicone to seal instead of a gasket. That is a real disapointment. These cars cost big bucks & you think youre buying something thats not going to need this type of repair.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH toyota!!!
Hi Are you from Fresno?
Yog kawg
@@alltsab kuv muaj in lub Lexus ISF thaib koj puas kas check kuv Lexus for qhov valley plate leak?
Tau kawg
Muab koj tus xov tooj kuv mam hu koj
@@alltsab muaj koj tus email rau kuv kuv mas email koj kuv tus xov tooj
How do i get in touch with you? Would like to pay you to fix this leak on my car. Located in Sacramento but would be willing to come to you. Thanks
Go to your local shop they can fix it for you is not that expensive.
Check out Red Sun, they’ve done it for dudes in Sacramento area for good price
@@ISFALVwhere can I find this red sun?
That looks like a poorly designed motor, overly complex, and the wire harness is likely exposed to too much heat, yowza, now I see why they say stay away from Lexus v8’s
joelandersonphoto jfl
Literally the only recurring issue people are having with these cars that affect all years are the valley plate leak, sticky dash and exhaust manifold crack. The sticky dash is covered through Lexus so just take it in to the dealer and they replace the dash and panels if they’re bad but Thats pretty much it