I’ve used this combination twice this year with great results and no damage to my zeon zoysia. My neighbors yard is Bermuda, so I’ve been spraying my boards to prevent further envision. Great product and I’ll try spraying it earlier next year to suppress the Bermuda………great video
I got 95% control of all the common bermuda in my Zeon zoysia lawn using your recommended application of Fusilade and Tricophyr. It transiently stunts the zoysia, only minor yellowing, not bad and recovers quickly. I am very interested in this new herbicide combination and will be following your results! My Zeon is again the best lawn in the neighborhood and everyone who walks in the morning and evening stop and tell me if I'm out working on the yard. Thank you for your lawn care advice.
Thanks for the thorough and informative video. I’ve been battling common bermuda in my zeon zoysia yard here in north Texas for years. Looking forward to this product being in stock.
Hey Paul, I just got my Recognition and Fusilade II and am getting ready to hit my zoysia lawn with this mixture. Bermuda grass is rampant in it in some areas, thanks for this video. Also, I’m digging the Big Rock shirt, right on!-Jim Ballou
Hey Cuz! I am going to hit my lawn with it again too. I have found about three Bermuda plants in my lawn and they’re all small. I also have some crabgrass and a little nutsedge.
Hey boss! Never got an update to your Recognition + Fusilade2 video! I just laid about 5k sqft of Zeon and have some sedge, bermuda, and crabgrass. Just was able to get my hands on some recognition and fusilade2 and want to pump spray my yard with it
I don’t know how I missed the notification for your post, but I did. The update is in a recent video but I’ll recap. I only had a handful of Bermuda plants pop up this year. I applied this combo about a month ago and I can’t find any more Bermuda right now. It smoked the sedge but only dinged the crabgrass. The crabgrass grew right out of it! The crabgrass is at a growth stage now that you probably won’t have good herbicide results. Get you a pre-emergent down in the next month or so.
Just ran across this, great info. Thank you. I have planted zoysia here in FL. Had St. Aug but I killed it trying to spray then my wife wouldn’t let me do it again. Now I have my established zoysia, but st aug from neighbor and Bermuda in spots throughout. Above says to spray in June, so it’s too early now? Wasn’t sure being this far south if we should get an earlier jump? Also I heard mention in your test plot of several types, but u sure what was put down at this point. Had to resod 2yr ago another patch, so I could even have 2types. Will that matter or do I need to make sure which type first? That’s how I lost my first lawn, didn’t realize I had Flora-tam and the chemical was unsafe for that particular. Trying to gain control back and not many down here seem to be able to help.
I can try to do one this weekend but I am going to reapply on the front yard next week. There is absolutely no damage to the test plots from the previous application.
Hello. Great video, thank you for sharing. Question: Any update on what happened to your Zeon Zoysia that received the double application in this video? Thanks.
@@Coamex I don’t have it on video but it showed no damage at all to the zoysia. That’s not saying that it’s ok to apply double the rate but showing that accidentally over applying won’t hurt the desirable grass.
Thanks for posting this video! What do you believe the impact of only using Fusilade or Recognition by themselves would be? (Instead of together) And would Fusilade by itself do well with removing Bermuda from Zoysia lawn?
Just sodded my yard with Zeon zoysia the first of July 2024 in Youngsville, NC. I am 82 and need someone to treat my yard with fertilizer, pre-emergents and weed control. Can you recommend anyone over here? I can keep it cut for now. Enjoy your videos. Thanks
It will kill young crabgrass but doesn’t do well vs established or crabgrass beyond the 5-7 instar stage. Quinclorac will absolutely smoke the crabgrass. Paul shared Quintessential Crabgrass Control with you ncgrassplugs.com/products/quinclorac-1-5l-select-crabgrass-control
Perhaps sometime you could comment on what and when to use as a preventative insecticide (grubs, army worms) and anti fungal, in zoysia lawns. These products are expensive, and there are many varieties on them. I think they recommend an antifungal in October in the Charlotte region for zoysia.
I believe the idea behind that is to get some Bermuda vegetation exposed so that it can be hit with the herbicide. To date in my front lawn, I have pulled out two small Bermuda sprigs this year. I am sure I didn’t get it all but it looks like 99.99% of it was killed off. That’s an amazing rate of control. I plan on shooting a video today and maybe another in two weeks. They may end up being just one video but it’ll be a 1 year update on the plug installation.
Nice video…. How would it look over time if the Zeon plot got invaded by El Toro zoysia? Would it end up being an all El Toro plot because El Toro is a faster grower? How do you think it would look?
My advice is to follow the directions on the label, but if not stated, wait until May or June to apply in FL. My test plots included Zeon, Compadre and Zenith as well as my side yard that has Meyer zoysia and the front yard of El Toro. All of these showed no sign of damage whatsoever and I applied 2x rate on the test plots. I may repeat that rate again this summer to verify these results as the Zeon has historically been plagued with Common Bermuda popping up. I do not see any in it right now. It may be worthy to note that I use a biostimulant on a regular basis, either CytoGro or RGS depending on what I have in the garage. Looking at this front lawn in the video, I am amazed at how much it has filled in. I think we are over 95% filled in.
Help! I am using metric over here in Australia and have a small 45m2 patch to cover. My sprayer uses about 4L to cover the whole area. I am stumped trying to work out the ratios to use?
Being that it’s soon to be mid August, would you recommend applying the spray now or would it be best to wait to the spring? I have Emerald Zoysia located in the Charlotte area. Thanks
So how do you know how much to spray on the grass? Do I measure out 1000 ft2 and make sure I spray out the entire gallon mix on that area? So if go over with one pass but still have mixture in the 1 gal tank keep spraying until have used up the 1 gallon on the 1000 ft2 area?
The Recognition label says one of the targets is Zoysia grass thats on the do my own site label, and i have a emerald Zoysia lawn a very very fine leaf grass
I've been using the fusilade/turflon combo literally for years to keep my neighbors Bermuda knocked back from invading my zoysia lawn. I'd love to try this, but the site says not available for sale in North Carolina. Is that a typo on their part?
You can use Recognition in St Aug but not labeled for Centipede. Also Fusilade is for Zoysia, not St Aug….but you can tank mix it with Turflon Ester/Triclopyr. www.greencastonline.com/products/recognition-herbicide/turf
@@NCGrassPlugs I have been researching and looking trying to find something, anything anywhere that says something about Recognition, and Centipede grass. Doesn't even mention on the label ,if you can or can't use it on Centipede. Usually tho, herbicides that are tolerated by St. Augustine, are also tolerated by Centipede. I have both types of grass in my yard and want to try it, but that's an expensive experiment if it ends up killing the Centipede
The full strength product is 24% and 170 is 1.7%, does is make sense to use more of the 170? Here is my simplified math. 1/2 oz of 24% = 12% so 7oz of 1.7% = 11.9%. OR am I way off?
Can I use MSO instead of the 80/20 non-ionic surfactant? I have a giant jug of it I’d like to use up before buying anything else. Isn’t MSO considered a non-ionic surfactant? I tried to read about surfactants and now I’m even more confused.
Hey, thanks for checking that out for me! I’ve been using MSO with the old Triclopyr formula with reasonable success. Haven’t had any trouble in the heat yet. Are there temp restrictions for using this new formula? In TX, by the time the grass dries out in the morning, it’s about 85-90degrees and quickly climbs to 100plus. I guess if this new product gives a higher kill, I can do it in late spring and early fall when the temps are lower and prob only twice a year. Just put down my 3rd app of the old formula. It knocks the wild Bermuda back but doesn’t seem to kill it. While I’m here, THANKS SO MUCH! for the vids. You saved my lawn!
@@joedollard4921 The only temperature related items on the label say that if it's hot and dry, increase the size of droplet. It also talks about temperature inversion. Here's a link to the label so nothing gets lost in translation... www.greencastonline.com/current-label/recognition
Yes! I found the directions for use online. There's 2 sections, Bermuda grass control in Zoysia and Bermuda grass control in St. Augustine. Ordered some Recognition today!@@NCGrassPlugs
I’ve used this combination twice this year with great results and no damage to my zeon zoysia. My neighbors yard is Bermuda, so I’ve been spraying my boards to prevent further envision. Great product and I’ll try spraying it earlier next year to suppress the Bermuda………great video
I got 95% control of all the common bermuda in my Zeon zoysia lawn using your recommended application of Fusilade and Tricophyr. It transiently stunts the zoysia, only minor yellowing, not bad and recovers quickly. I am very interested in this new herbicide combination and will be following your results! My Zeon is again the best lawn in the neighborhood and everyone who walks in the morning and evening stop and tell me if I'm out working on the yard. Thank you for your lawn care advice.
Thanks for the thorough and informative video. I’ve been battling common bermuda in my zeon zoysia yard here in north Texas for years. Looking forward to this product being in stock.
Great job on presenting the mix rate.
Looks like the combination worked well for the front yard, I will be interested to see how the back does with your double application test area.
results ?
Hey Paul, I just got my Recognition and Fusilade II and am getting ready to hit my zoysia lawn with this mixture. Bermuda grass is rampant in it in some areas, thanks for this video. Also, I’m digging the Big Rock shirt, right on!-Jim Ballou
Hey Cuz! I am going to hit my lawn with it again too. I have found about three Bermuda plants in my lawn and they’re all small. I also have some crabgrass and a little nutsedge.
Great, informative video. Thank you.
Ive been waiting for this video
Hey boss! Never got an update to your Recognition + Fusilade2 video! I just laid about 5k sqft of Zeon and have some sedge, bermuda, and crabgrass. Just was able to get my hands on some recognition and fusilade2 and want to pump spray my yard with it
I don’t know how I missed the notification for your post, but I did.
The update is in a recent video but I’ll recap. I only had a handful of Bermuda plants pop up this year. I applied this combo about a month ago and I can’t find any more Bermuda right now. It smoked the sedge but only dinged the crabgrass. The crabgrass grew right out of it! The crabgrass is at a growth stage now that you probably won’t have good herbicide results. Get you a pre-emergent down in the next month or so.
Just ran across this, great info. Thank you. I have planted zoysia here in FL. Had St. Aug but I killed it trying to spray then my wife wouldn’t let me do it again. Now I have my established zoysia, but st aug from neighbor and Bermuda in spots throughout. Above says to spray in June, so it’s too early now? Wasn’t sure being this far south if we should get an earlier jump? Also I heard mention in your test plot of several types, but u sure what was put down at this point. Had to resod 2yr ago another patch, so I could even have 2types. Will that matter or do I need to make sure which type first? That’s how I lost my first lawn, didn’t realize I had Flora-tam and the chemical was unsafe for that particular. Trying to gain control back and not many down here seem to be able to help.
I like your mixing style. Do you add an olive once you have finished mixing?
@@velcroman11 No olives but I like it shaken and stirred.
do you have any idea when you will do an update on this video
I can try to do one this weekend but I am going to reapply on the front yard next week.
There is absolutely no damage to the test plots from the previous application.
Making sure I understand your reply: There was no damage to the double application sprayed path...correct? Thanks@@NCGrassPlugs
@@jcasey460 That’s 100% correct ☑️
Great info 🔥🔥👑
Hello. Great video, thank you for sharing. Question: Any update on what happened to your Zeon Zoysia that received the double application in this video? Thanks.
@@Coamex I don’t have it on video but it showed no damage at all to the zoysia. That’s not saying that it’s ok to apply double the rate but showing that accidentally over applying won’t hurt the desirable grass.
@@NCGrassPlugs Thank you!
Thanks for posting this video!
What do you believe the impact of only using Fusilade or Recognition by themselves would be? (Instead of together)
And would Fusilade by itself do well with removing Bermuda from Zoysia lawn?
Just sodded my yard with Zeon zoysia the first of July 2024 in Youngsville, NC. I am 82 and need someone to treat my yard with fertilizer, pre-emergents and weed control. Can you recommend anyone over here? I can keep it cut for now. Enjoy your videos. Thanks
Joey Adams 919-210-2804
Thanks, I’ll give him a call.
Will this kill crab grass also?
It will kill young crabgrass but doesn’t do well vs established or crabgrass beyond the 5-7 instar stage.
Quinclorac will absolutely smoke the crabgrass.
Paul shared Quintessential Crabgrass Control with you ncgrassplugs.com/products/quinclorac-1-5l-select-crabgrass-control
@@NCGrassPlugs thank you. Great video and will definitely use the info for killing of my Bermuda grass here in Michigan
Perhaps sometime you could comment on what and when to use as a preventative insecticide (grubs, army worms) and anti fungal, in zoysia lawns. These products are expensive, and there are many varieties on them. I think they recommend an antifungal in October in the Charlotte region for zoysia.
Can you give updates on this? Also do you have to wait seven days to apply after mowing?
I believe the idea behind that is to get some Bermuda vegetation exposed so that it can be hit with the herbicide.
To date in my front lawn, I have pulled out two small Bermuda sprigs this year. I am sure I didn’t get it all but it looks like 99.99% of it was killed off. That’s an amazing rate of control.
I plan on shooting a video today and maybe another in two weeks. They may end up being just one video but it’ll be a 1 year update on the plug installation.
Thank you for the reply. I have zoysia and it is absolutely overrun with Bermuda. Going to apply next week with your mixing guidelines.
Nice video…. How would it look over time if the Zeon plot got invaded by El Toro zoysia? Would it end up being an all El Toro plot because El Toro is a faster grower? How do you think it would look?
El Toro is most definitely a faster grower where Zeon is extremely slow to spread. I don’t know how it would look to be honest.
My advice is to follow the directions on the label, but if not stated, wait until May or June to apply in FL.
My test plots included Zeon, Compadre and Zenith as well as my side yard that has Meyer zoysia and the front yard of El Toro. All of these showed no sign of damage whatsoever and I applied 2x rate on the test plots. I may repeat that rate again this summer to verify these results as the Zeon has historically been plagued with Common Bermuda popping up. I do not see any in it right now.
It may be worthy to note that I use a biostimulant on a regular basis, either CytoGro or RGS depending on what I have in the garage.
Looking at this front lawn in the video, I am amazed at how much it has filled in. I think we are over 95% filled in.
Help! I am using metric over here in Australia and have a small 45m2 patch to cover.
My sprayer uses about 4L to cover the whole area. I am stumped trying to work out the ratios to use?
@@AforAna-qw7zv 45 square meters is about 500 sqft and 4 liters is right at one gallon.
Being that it’s soon to be mid August, would you recommend applying the spray now or would it be best to wait to the spring? I have Emerald Zoysia located in the Charlotte area. Thanks
June through September is the time to apply. Go ahead and hit it while it’s actively growing and you’ll have time for another application if needed.
I lost a nice tree to Tricophyr // Fusilade. Budded out and then just died. Is this Monument combination any safer for trees?
Much safer
I only have a small spot that needs treatment. If I mix up a gallon, now long will it last? Does it have a limited shelf life after mixing?
@@mbrock29609 Consult the label on this one.
So how do you know how much to spray on the grass? Do I measure out 1000 ft2 and make sure I spray out the entire gallon mix on that area? So if go over with one pass but still have mixture in the 1 gal tank keep spraying until have used up the 1 gallon on the 1000 ft2 area?
The Recognition label says one of the targets is Zoysia grass thats on the do my own site label, and i have a emerald Zoysia lawn a very very fine leaf grass
Trifloxysulfuron is the AI in Recognition. It is safe for Zoysia and the safener in Recognition makes the Fluazifop safe to apply on Zoysia as well.
Can I apply this method in the summer?
Yes you can apply it three times a year, beginning in June. I believe it is at least 4-6 weeks between treatments.
I've been using the fusilade/turflon combo literally for years to keep my neighbors Bermuda knocked back from invading my zoysia lawn. I'd love to try this, but the site says not available for sale in North Carolina. Is that a typo on their part?
It must be because I was able to buy it.
Follow your Recognition link in the video description. The listing sais that this product is not for sale in NC. @@NCGrassPlugs
@@22zson Not sure why. I bought mine in NC
Is .55 of an ounce just under the once mark?
@@OrinthoGrier just over a half oz
@@NCGrassPlugs Thanks
Is this combination of herbicides safe to use in St. Augustine and Centipede grass ?
You can use Recognition in St Aug but not labeled for Centipede. Also Fusilade is for Zoysia, not St Aug….but you can tank mix it with Turflon Ester/Triclopyr.
www.greencastonline.com/products/recognition-herbicide/turf
@@NCGrassPlugs I have been researching and looking trying to find something, anything anywhere that says something about Recognition, and Centipede grass. Doesn't even mention on the label ,if you can or can't use it on Centipede. Usually tho, herbicides that are tolerated by St. Augustine, are also tolerated by Centipede. I have both types of grass in my yard and want to try it, but that's an expensive experiment if it ends up killing the Centipede
@@randallalderman2260 it is not labeled for Centipede
Wouldn't glyphosate work as well?
Only if you want to kill everything that you spray it on.
@NCGrassPlugs well I only have weeds so...😄
@@The_Dougie you have to start somewhere. Do you have any desirable turfgrass in there?
@NCGrassPlugs no. A lot of dandelions. Trying to convince my wife to do zoysia plugs.
@@The_Dougie Fall is a good time to plant. Those plugs will do better than those planted next Spring.
Can I use Ornamec 170? If so, how much per gallon.
Yes you can. I posted those rates in one of the previous video descriptions but I’d have to go find it and convert it.
The full strength product is 24% and 170 is 1.7%, does is make sense to use more of the 170?
Here is my simplified math. 1/2 oz of 24% = 12% so 7oz of 1.7% = 11.9%. OR am I way off?
Can I use MSO instead of the 80/20 non-ionic surfactant? I have a giant jug of it I’d like to use up before buying anything else. Isn’t MSO considered a non-ionic surfactant? I tried to read about surfactants and now I’m even more confused.
Good question. The label says 80/20 NIS so I don’t know about MSO in this case. I can email the Syngenta rep.
The Syngenta rep says MSO should work but it was not tested. Be careful using MSO in zoysia in this heat, it could get dinged.
Hey, thanks for checking that out for me! I’ve been using MSO with the old Triclopyr formula with reasonable success. Haven’t had any trouble in the heat yet. Are there temp restrictions for using this new formula? In TX, by the time the grass dries out in the morning, it’s about 85-90degrees and quickly climbs to 100plus. I guess if this new product gives a higher kill, I can do it in late spring and early fall when the temps are lower and prob only twice a year. Just put down my 3rd app of the old formula. It knocks the wild Bermuda back but doesn’t seem to kill it. While I’m here, THANKS SO MUCH! for the vids. You saved my lawn!
Also, I bought one of your pluggers and I love it! What a great tool and built like a tank!
@@joedollard4921 The only temperature related items on the label say that if it's hot and dry, increase the size of droplet. It also talks about temperature inversion. Here's a link to the label so nothing gets lost in translation...
www.greencastonline.com/current-label/recognition
Will this work to get Bermuda out of St. Augustine?
I believe so. I read somewhere that it was safe in St Aug
Yes! I found the directions for use online. There's 2 sections, Bermuda grass control in Zoysia and Bermuda grass control in St. Augustine. Ordered some Recognition today!@@NCGrassPlugs
I told u about this month's ago
I’ve known about it but trying to acquire the herbicide was tough.
It says i cant buy it in Florida
Drive to Georgia😂
@@The_Dougie If i had an address in Donaldsonville I would
Man can you come spray my yard please! Lol
Whow