Ashley, remember we aren't shown 100% of what was filmed. Tamar said Iyanla brought up something regarding to her being molested, we never saw anything about that in this episode HOWEVER Tamar spoke out after that portion was taped, It is entirely possible by the end of their time with Iyanla things had turned around and that resulted in the finale we saw. There has been alot of speculations prior to the airing of this finale that their time with Iyanla was a pure shit show, maybe what we have seen was through the magic of editing but from what I have seen in this episode, alot of good was done, at this point speculating on what may or may not have happened behind the scenes is useless, what we saw in this episode was a redemption story for everyone
Krysis Cee useless? Tamar created this whole narrative. She's a liar and a drama queen who is not and has not been held accountable for her abusive, disrespectful behavior. We've seen enough of her antics to not need to see every single second of footage. She's a damn mess
Ms Evelyn redeemed herself in this episode. She seemed more open to the the process compared to last week. At the end, Tamar seem like she was trying to win best new actress at the NCAAP awards. She was trying her best to squeeze some tears but the tears never came.
I know I kept trying to be in the moment with her but I wasn't seeing tears, I felt a disconnect. I was wondering was she being genuine. Idk. When she said she needs help I felt that she was finally admitting that she needs mental help. Time will tell if she really is serious about change.
Tamar and all her fake ass nonexistent tears was wearing me out. I knew she was gonna say her confession last because she was gonna be the most dramatic. I think she does this to invoke sympathy and not be held accountable for her behavior
When Tamar called Iyanla Sis and Iyanla told her I'm not your sister, I'm two years younger than your mother and I have underwear older than you...and they're clean 😂😂😂😂😂☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
I checked online and according to wiki the age difference is 5yrs. Momma Braxton turned 70yrs and Iyanla turned 65yrs this year. The point is still the same that Iyanla is much older than Tamar and she [Tamar] was very disrespectful to her elder!!
Exactly lol she literally says this every chance she gets and they still don't get it. Toni has said she's annoyed being around them all the time she's said the way they talk annoys her them being ghetto(mostly Tamar) annoys her...um..everything annoys her lol but forreal she said it with such confidence and assurence I'm pretty sure she's serious
I can relate to Toni when she said that she loves her family, but she doesn't like them. I love my family, dearly. I'll do anything for them. But if I never saw them for 30 or 40 years, I really wouldn't be bothered. Family does not equal acceptance and friendship. Sometimes, it just feels like you're trapped on an island and you just gotta deal.
@Bold & Beautiful I truly relate! It feels like I've been a junior parent since 8 and responsible for my brother and baby sister who is a brat like Tamar!!! I declared my Independence 20 years ago about 15 years into my marriage! It's been life changing ever since and they accept and respect that they're my family but I don't have to indulge them, cater to, be a part of their EVERY move, occasion, etc! In fact I have a wonderful husband and now that we're grandparents, we have a full life! That's what reunions are for! I now live by the advice I gave to clients for many years and I NEVER been happier!!!! #livingforme #stopparticipatingininsanity
Aint that the dame truth!! sometimes families can be so detrimental to your existence, And hinder any chance of you ever being truly happy. Am planning to slowly distance my self from some family members, and is currently doing therapy on myself, so I can truly feel free from everything. I would hate to bring up any future kids I have with the level of dysfunction I endured and expect them to think its normal.
@Bold & Beautiful I live in London, UK and share the same family problems. It took me almost 10 years, to actually get to a breaking point to seek therapy. My main requirement for a therapist was that the person was BLACK and a WOMEN, which has made a difference to how open I am in my sessions. It is important that you can share how you feel and be comfortable to do so without feeling like the person does not understand you culturally. It a nice feeling to just Vent freely (without judgement), whilst understanding the emotional burden and anger you carry as a black woman. It's something that a white therapist (for me) can only sympathise on, but not truly grasps the historical depth it plays in black families and our communities. I can understand the resistant to getting a therapist in a small town, as it is really hard to determine what peoples intentions are these days. A therapist has to keep it confidential, similar to how Iyanla had the sisters do the questionnaire, most therapists do that to get a sense of your mental state beforehand. If you agree to continue, you have to sign a legal confidential agreement. whenever and whomever you decide to get (black, white or other) just go with your initiative.
Ummm... Unless your family was EXTREMELY abusive, and I mean EXTREMELY. I can't see how one separates from their family. That sounds so damn crazy to me.
@@XoeCox Think of it this way. If you were dating someone and they kept hurting you emotionally, you wouldn't stay, would you? No matter how much you loved them? It's alot like that. If someone keepa hurting you, and they have no intention of changing their behavior, then you have every right to save yourself and walk away from the situation. Family are people at the end of the day. And people hurt people.
MAA1176 i think that’s the Nigerian boyfriend she has been talking about. It was a male who was with her but his face was blurred. Which makes me believe it was him. SHe was so damn disrespectful to Iyanla tho
Can you imagine being the only boy in a house full of women I dont blame him for living his regular life he's a nurse he dont have time for this mess lol
I agree, I feel his perspective would have brought out some truths as well but maybe he has moved on from his parents situation where his sisters haven’t.
Also Iyanla has the patience that I will never understand cause she should have cursed Tamar out for acting like that but Mama E put that in check even though it was kind of late for it
When I first saw on the shaderoom and what Toni said my first reaction was yup mhmmmm she meant that shit. I also read Toni's book being the oldest and her mom said don't forget about your sister all those years. Lorddddd thats a lot of weight to deal with and stressful.
Yes it is......their mother is something else saying that. Toni has had the burden of carrying them because she was successful first. And I bet u if she didn't help everybody they would have all turned against her. Starting with the mother first. Ms. Eveyln is a hateful woman and u can see it in her face. And I bet she's also been greedy throughout their life. She wants to be high and mighty....... because she feels that it's owed to her and she's entitled. I don't care for her at all.
There were several break throughs but for me the most important was Ms. E's break through. Ms. E needs her own session with Iyanla. She is living with so much pain and devastation over the betrayal of Michael in their marriage. I also saw the pain and devastation in her face when she made her confession to the family for putting her daughters in the middle of the divorce and controlling their lives. Ms. E looked so hurt. My heart goes out to her and I hope she will now get the help she needs to heal her own wounds. She has suffered long enough. Time to break free Ms. E from that painful betrayal.
I was thinking the same thing. She let her act a fool until Iyanla said, "Who can control her? So it was like she had to do it because of how it made her 👀
I think it was because toni tried to step in and say something to Tamar and it didn't work Toni has to realize even tho she helped raise them only the parents can control the child.. Iyanla looked fed up like she wanted to baxk hand Tamar herself and become her temporary mom
Nisha Banks ... YES! A long time ago, as in when she was a CHILD, girl. 🙄 She’s BEEN acting like a spoiled brat, it’s just gotten progressively worse over the years.
I think Toni meant every word and I don’t think she meant “sometimes”. I feel like she really does not like them. She loves them out of obligation. That was hard to watch because she said it so coldly. But the family is toxic, so I see how it could happen.
U are so right about that. But I don't blame Toni and I would get far away from them and live. She basically can't be happy because of them. Including the mother. Ms. Eveyln is hateful and mean spirited. I truly feel bad for Toni. And I'm sorry she even has to deal with them at all. Because they want everything Toni has. They are too much for her to deal with. That's why she can't be happy. And they are very jealous of her.
@@lorrainefischer4567 Exactly. Why the whole don't forget about your sisters thing? Why does she have to carry long in the tooth women? Some who have husbands! That's not her job. They are a very selfish tribe.
At one point Tamar looked like she was about to cuss out her mama then punch her in the throat. (I think that's the part where the molestation was brought up, but they just edited it out.) That 40 year old child was being exorcised with every true word that came out of Iyanla's mouth. Tamar got the devil in her.
I know right! Scared the shhh out of me, it's like somebody else was in her body. Her facial expressions was scary. But I think Ms. E would have got with Tamar don't mess with old people.
I’m sorry but I do NOT feel like Tamar’s apology was so sincere. She wasn’t even crying . If that wasn’t cringe worthy then idk wtf is . She was straining so hard to push some type of water out her eyes but it just wasn’t happening . Tamar is a damn child
After hearing Toni say what she said, & how these last few seasons of this show have turned their sister hood to shambles I definitely understand why Toni didn’t wanna do this show in the first place!
All that head bopping, lip popping and neck swinging is soooooo going to rub off on little Logan. 🤦🏾♀️. Kids mimic nearly everything they see their parents do, and it’s not gonna look cute to see a toddler BOY, smacking his lips and rolling his neck in school.
Hahaaaa at the Dr. Sherri shade. On a sidenote, I wonder if seeing how *cough cough* unhelpful Dr. Sherri was for the Braxtons hurt Dr. Sherri's business in real life.
I missed the t-shirt but thought the same thing about the camouflage. You are more thorough than a employment drug test. I'm sick of folks calling her behavior a big personality when all her family members took Iyanla's words with maturity. Even Miss E took her walls down and realized that she was there to receive. People keep asking about where their father's balls were but I think he's been silenced years ago against all that estrogen because of his infidelity. Do your thing girl... You said that shit 💯‼️
Iyanla called this when she did Trina’s segment on her show. The mamma is the issue. Tamar is disrespectful!!! AND I’m glad she called Trina and Towanda out when she asked why can other ppl go and do other things and Traci not. They’re just selfish and have Traci as the outsider. Also, Ms. E is miserable and still hurt by what happened. She has to let it go and heal. The Daddy still cares for her, you could’ve told that from other seasons where he would always ask about her but Ms. E still holding a grudge. It’s been wayyyyy to long.
when toni said that I was like damn especially when she reiterated it by saying "if we weren't family we wouldn't be friends" and girl I was looking for tamar's tears too I even paused that shit
Tamara gets on my nerves she was disrespectful for no reason. Alway swinging that head because she so use to having hair. She need to just throw a wig on because her neck gone fall the heck off. She looks sick. Toni just never had the courage to tell them to leave her alone she put them on but still felt like she has to carry them all. Mike jr like I’m not in the mess. I don’t even watch the show but has to last night. How Tamar do all the heavy breathing and shaking with no tears girl bye.
To tell you the truth I couldn't bring my heart to watch it cause it had me had me cringing. I am so glad you reviewed this, great recap as always Ashley Tamar works my last nerve everytime.
Tamar has some serious issues! The way she carries on rolling her neck, swinging her imaginary wig, annoyed the heck out of me! She is already not that cute, but her actions make her ugly! Ms. E & her are the same; however, I am proud of Ms E for shutting down that disrespect! I don’t care what anyone says, I feel Iyanla is AMAZING at what she does! She makes families have those difficult conversations that they would not normally have without anyone to mediate & dissect. I also understand where Toni is coming from. Sometimes we can feel overwhelmed by our family with no escape...
Tamar always looks and acts "Ugly"......she is just like her hateful mother. And Iyanla hit the nail on the head when she told Tamar that "She is abusive and violent" because she is. Tamar doesn't see how ugly she is because she's too busy being over dramatic for attention all the time!! I don't like her anymore at all.
I think when the mom started to go along with things & she yelled at Tamar to respect Iyanla. I think Tamar didn’t expect that from the mom. When Tamar came back from the car it was like a switch went off & she started to apologize for everything. I think they were right that Evelyn & Tamar are SO much alike. Iyanla was right when at said that Tamar’s behavior was a manifestation of all the Moms anger etc. Really powerful episode.👍😆
I thought Iyanla did a wonderful job of keeping her composure but did y'all see RHONDA sneak out when Tamar called her Sis??? Lawd Rhonda said I got draws older than you. LMBO
Tamar was draining 😩😩 . Ms. E did redeem somewhat but she is not being honest with herself. But some additional help and counseling could definitely work for each of them together and individually.
Tamar's name calling accusation in that moment was a complete mind fuck. I wanted it to make sense but sense could not be found. Also the aftermath of Tamar's tweets just makes her seem more insane. I hope she gets real help. Tamar's behavior use to irritate me but now its just worrying.
No Ma'am, Tamar was there only for the dramatics....Iyanla called it...Tamar wants attention to the very end. Her dramatic speech didn't not move me...she was still too extra with not one drop of a tear...eyes wasn't even red. Tamar gave a look at me , I'm a victim feel sorry for me speech ... I felt moved by everybody else but Tamar..
Tamar is ghetto as hell. And totally disrespectful to anybody that says something she doesn't like. She should be on medication. Because she's definitely too much for anybody to deal with. I don't like her anymore.
I cried like a baby during tamar confessions and Lord knows I can't stand her..iyanla is amazing..she put Dr sherry to shame. It's a shame after this tamar and iyanla had drama 're the molestation because it was an excellent episode
Under normal circumstances I would have cried but I looked at Towanda and Toni and they were looking at Tamar like you're joking right??? If they didn't believe her, I couldn't either. Plus we know what she did and how she behaved AFTER the show aired. She ain't changed
I believe Tamar sent those tweets before episodes two was completed. Remember she said she walked out because someone revealed that she was molested. Well the walk out happened Tamar left and went and got in the car and she came back in and had a break through the end. I think Tamar has been holding a lot in fora long, long time and Iyanla pulled it out of her well all of them!
whole internet full of ppl and ur one of the few ppl who have enough sense to put that together. everyone is taking what was aired as a full play by play when lpts of footage is edited every episode
I was waiting the whole time for Tamar's sexual violations to come up. Nothing. All of those commentators who made videos jumping on Tamar's bandwagon bashing Auntie Iyanla should learn from this. Tamar Braxton is an unreliable source for information. She's a perpetual victim. Get more facts before you take up arms in her honor.
I feel like Tamar owes Iyanla an apology. She said some awful things about her in the media. We now see what really happened. I know the show is edited but it looks to me like the stuff Tamar said happened- didn’t. I hope she gets help. There’s clearly something going on with her that needs healing. We all do.
Sounds like Evelyn stayed pregnant and daddy was always at work to provide for the family and once Toni signed her contract Evelyn made it clear that she needs to take care of family.When I win the lottery I'm not telling NOBODY .
So they ended in a decent vibe. If there was any sexual abuse discussion WE EDITED it out. Tamar FAKE cried and asked for forgiveness THEN TURNED AROUND THE NEXT DAY AND CALLED IYANLA THE DEVIL . so all of that was Tamar just being extra and fake. Thats why Toni just stared qt her
This is a family of believers. Talking about old wounds is a scapegoat. The Lord will release you from any past brokenness, if you let Him. Tamar is spoiled and somewhat manipulative. When you are grown , you own you behaviors. How do you grow otherwise?
Hey Ashley, I’m here for your review on this episode of the finale BFV that damn Tamar was so disrespectful with her bad attitude and was out of order with Ms.Iyanla, and she just showed how difficult it is for anybody to work with her and they family has a lot of healing to do and thanks for Ms.Iyanla, for giving them the tools to work with.
Ooooo girl..Ms. Ashley I almost jumped through my computer screen to give you a high five when you said Dr. Sherry wasn't worth shit when it came to these girls and they issues...I said a million years ago that they should have been gone to see Iyanla...Glad I am not the only one who saw that.
Hey Ashley👋🏽 Imo, as a whole, the whole thing was a success. Props to Ms Iyanla for that. It looks like a good start,so im confused about Tamar's negative comments online,Wendy,etc....also I never heard Iyanla call her a single name or even imply it. Tamar's behavior was horrible for no reason. Its like she wanted a problem with Iyanla,when there wasnt one...
Problem: its not about getting folk "the fuck together". The sooner we learn that they better. I like Iyanla but she can be a bit dramatic and brash herself. I know thats her style but she is so triggering.Tamar is spoiled! We've known that for years. I did like that she finally apologize and was able to verbalize her faults in front of her family. But what I am not getting is why she went online to call Iyanla the devil. It seemed like they ended the session on god terms. What happened?
KamauATL Yes. She triggers bc most issues in most families comes from people hiding things. She puts it on the table. A psychologist would never. They would take forever to get to the point. They called her so they knew what time it was and came ready to fight HER instead of facing the truth. Tamar ain’t never been called out like that so she probably really does feel like Iyanla is the devil...cause she sees right thru her and ain’t gon tolerate that mouf lol.
The Good Comment exactly! To call Iyanla means you want to get down to it! Like Tamar said she had a different plan and that was to come out of it on top (exonerated). And I think a lot of Iyanla guests think they are gonna manipulate the moment but not on Iyanla WATCH!
Great Review Ashley, you touched every point. I like BFV but live for Iyanla. She did a Great job as always, not sure why people don't get her. I really cried from Tamar confession, no tears, but it truly was heartfelt. I was left wanting more though. I see Tamar still needs help becuz she jumped the gun outing Iyanla about molestation. I guess WETV won again in the end! Lol
That table scene brought me to tears. I'm just glad they were finally able to be honest with one another. It's only the start but I truly hope everything works out for them.
And Tamar turned right around and went on Wendy and social media and called Iyanla the devil! That girl will never change. Prettty sure she needs medication
I feel like Iyanla wanted to say something about Tamar's "break down" being a deflection, but instead she accepted the effort from Tamar trying to go with the process.
Tamar's defensive behavior is that of a hurting and angered individual who has suppressed so much emotion as a coping mechanism that whenever they are the topic of discussion in regards to their contributions of problematic issues that suppressed emotion emerges. She is in desperate need of not only a reality check but a safe space to express herself without being guarded and then given a heartwarming hug. Love is so necessary to us all
Great review! I think the Braxton family need a few more sessions of therapy with Ms. V or another good life coach or therapist. I believed Tamar when see had her breakthrough. I'm not gonna lie, I cried with real tears for Tamar. Toni's interview was powerful and sad. Tina and Traci both had me in tears. Great season finale.
I liked your review, Ashley. So, all of Tamar's meanness towards Miss Iyanla was misplaced and far-fetched??? This smacks of a woman not being truthful with herself or anyone else...Get help, Tamar...SMH...
Exactly but She never had the chance to "grow up". The age her parents or Dad wasnt there physically from working is the age she's stuck at. She was a teenager. Being a Life coach and studying psychology it's easy to see why shes how she is. Plus Braxton said Tamar never got disciplined which is the cause for the effect TODAY!
Marsha Stephenson ain’t no beef. The lady just isn’t good at her job and it shows. All of them went to her, at some point, and none never had a breakthrough. She’s too soft
That must have been the most humiliating and painful experience for Evelyn PLUS they were big in the church so that makes it even worse. That situation probably plays on her over and over again. She gotta find a way to move forward and either let him go completely or forgive him and move forward as friends
My question now is... Was the tweets Tamar sent out during part 1 or part 2 while she was in the car taking a "break"? Because the way this ended, I'm not seeing how she could of felt the same way and she had such a positive break through. After admitting that she came there just to make sure nothing was her fault. Did they go back to their old ways right after and she just blamed her?
AWWW man I was so busy crying myself I didn't even notice that Tamar didn't have any tears but I think she was real in that moment ...well I pray she was/is. I am happy Ms. E had a better day than the other day because she was just mean that day. This famly needs prayer and some of this and that and some more of that over there....but we all do they are just on tv. Damn good episode though.
This was the best ever i loved what mama did, you go Ms. E💪😉she needed that shit an im glad she said sorry to.the whole fam an Ms. Iyanla was right Tamara lives momma pain she made that song🎤🎶 My MAN , for her mom not her. we PISCES🐟 hold others pain in with our own an that's why we seem crazy to others but this was GREAT!!👍👍👏
Well!!!!!!! I been waiting for this review cause I wasn’t going to watch that BS last week I thought they were doing this for the money, and still believe it for the most part. But anyone who’s been watching their show knows they have cliques within....Tamar and Mama Traci is totally alone just like Toni on their own island and Trina and Tawanda are the last clique. I am wondering was this all a stunt to get ratings up cause anit nobody checking for the show. Toni never wanted the show but that money got funny but...now she got Birdman and that Cash Money well...what’s left after lil Wayne get the rest of his will she be back on WE TV. Ms Ashley thanks for the review cause I wasn’t going to watch.
I saw this comment and it still stands true. "Ms. Evelyn is Civil RIGHTS mean. lol" I HOLLERED. I was confirmed when she Shut all the sisters down indirectly just by shutting Tamar down.
One thing about Ms. V, the TRUTH will come OUT!! What happens after they leave is totally up to them. A lot was revealed, they should be grateful. WETV should build a show around Traci and move on.
I was exhausted just for that 10 mins of TAMAR. I applaud Iyanla for being so calm with her, she’s really a professional.
I still don't understand how how iyanla is the "Devil" I don't blame her for suing because she did nothing wrong to tamar
Ashley, remember we aren't shown 100% of what was filmed. Tamar said Iyanla brought up something regarding to her being molested, we never saw anything about that in this episode HOWEVER Tamar spoke out after that portion was taped, It is entirely possible by the end of their time with Iyanla things had turned around and that resulted in the finale we saw. There has been alot of speculations prior to the airing of this finale that their time with Iyanla was a pure shit show, maybe what we have seen was through the magic of editing but from what I have seen in this episode, alot of good was done, at this point speculating on what may or may not have happened behind the scenes is useless, what we saw in this episode was a redemption story for everyone
Krysis Cee useless? Tamar created this whole narrative. She's a liar and a drama queen who is not and has not been held accountable for her abusive, disrespectful behavior. We've seen enough of her antics to not need to see every single second of footage. She's a damn mess
Ashley A. Facts!And Tamar was rude for no reason.
Ms Evelyn redeemed herself in this episode. She seemed more open to the the process compared to last week. At the end, Tamar seem like she was trying to win best new actress at the NCAAP awards. She was trying her best to squeeze some tears but the tears never came.
I know I kept trying to be in the moment with her but I wasn't seeing tears, I felt a disconnect. I was wondering was she being genuine. Idk. When she said she needs help I felt that she was finally admitting that she needs mental help. Time will tell if she really is serious about change.
Traci was looking at her like 'cut the bull'. She held on to that forgiveness for a bit.
The only part I felt was actually genuine thru out her "Emmy nomination" moment was when she said she needs help. Sorry, not sorry. 😒
Toni said 🗣"EVERYBODY" just in case the family in the back didnt hear 😭
Monaee Stutts when Toni looked around and said everybody she wanted to make it be clear 😂😂
MsMartinaD yessss lol tamar looked up as soon as she said EVERYBODY Toni like girl you,mama,daddy,logan,trina her kids EVERYBODY 😂😂😂
Monaee Stutts Sis meant that shit from her soul, but I can see why she feels that way.
MsMartinaD me too toni always has to be the voice of reason, she tired of carrying the weight of all her sisters
Right mama and daddy too
Tamar and all her fake ass nonexistent tears was wearing me out. I knew she was gonna say her confession last because she was gonna be the most dramatic. I think she does this to invoke sympathy and not be held accountable for her behavior
When Tamar called Iyanla Sis and Iyanla told her I'm not your sister, I'm two years younger than your mother and I have underwear older than you...and they're clean 😂😂😂😂😂☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
I checked online and according to wiki the age difference is 5yrs. Momma Braxton turned 70yrs and Iyanla turned 65yrs this year. The point is still the same that Iyanla is much older than Tamar and she [Tamar] was very disrespectful to her elder!!
Nikki M lol Facts. I tell my son I'm not your bro when he be like Bruh 😂🤣. Gave me a good laugh thinking about that
Where was that?
Then Tamar told her that she was nasty for having 40 + underwear. “As long as they are clean!”
Tamar went through all of that and she’s still the same.
I was confused when Trina said that too. I was like naw, Toni seemed pretty clear in what she said.
Tomecca Williams ye toni dont fuck with them. Trina wake up to that fact
Exactly lol she literally says this every chance she gets and they still don't get it. Toni has said she's annoyed being around them all the time she's said the way they talk annoys her them being ghetto(mostly Tamar) annoys her...um..everything annoys her lol but forreal she said it with such confidence and assurence I'm pretty sure she's serious
When Tamar called Iyanla "Sis"........I was done.
Just disrespectful as hell
Right!? And she was all, "stay out my comments, sis." Acting like a 17 year old hoodbooga. This ain't Instagram, Tamar!
tball17 Iyanla got her together quick. She said I am 2yrs younger than your mother, I am not your sis
@@mammajamma4397 Right! I was like this ain't the shade room
In my mind I was like what 40 ish year old woman behaves like this! No ma'am. Iyanla is in her 60s. Tamar was being ridiculous.
I can relate to Toni when she said that she loves her family, but she doesn't like them. I love my family, dearly. I'll do anything for them. But if I never saw them for 30 or 40 years, I really wouldn't be bothered. Family does not equal acceptance and friendship. Sometimes, it just feels like you're trapped on an island and you just gotta deal.
@Bold & Beautiful I truly relate! It feels like I've been a junior parent since 8 and responsible for my brother and baby sister who is a brat like Tamar!!! I declared my Independence 20 years ago about 15 years into my marriage! It's been life changing ever since and they accept and respect that they're my family but I don't have to indulge them, cater to, be a part of their EVERY move, occasion, etc! In fact I have a wonderful husband and now that we're grandparents, we have a full life! That's what reunions are for! I now live by the advice I gave to clients for many years and I NEVER been happier!!!!
#livingforme
#stopparticipatingininsanity
Aint that the dame truth!! sometimes families can be so detrimental to your existence, And hinder any chance of you ever being truly happy. Am planning to slowly distance my self from some family members, and is currently doing therapy on myself, so I can truly feel free from everything. I would hate to bring up any future kids I have with the level of dysfunction I endured and expect them to think its normal.
@Bold & Beautiful I live in London, UK and share the same family problems. It took me almost 10 years, to actually get to a breaking point to seek therapy. My main requirement for a therapist was that the person was BLACK and a WOMEN, which has made a difference to how open I am in my sessions. It is important that you can share how you feel and be comfortable to do so without feeling like the person does not understand you culturally. It a nice feeling to just Vent freely (without judgement), whilst understanding the emotional burden and anger you carry as a black woman. It's something that a white therapist (for me) can only sympathise on, but not truly grasps the historical depth it plays in black families and our communities.
I can understand the resistant to getting a therapist in a small town, as it is really hard to determine what peoples intentions are these days. A therapist has to keep it confidential, similar to how Iyanla had the sisters do the questionnaire, most therapists do that to get a sense of your mental state beforehand. If you agree to continue, you have to sign a legal confidential agreement. whenever and whomever you decide to get (black, white or other) just go with your initiative.
Ummm... Unless your family was EXTREMELY abusive, and I mean EXTREMELY. I can't see how one separates from their family. That sounds so damn crazy to me.
@@XoeCox Think of it this way. If you were dating someone and they kept hurting you emotionally, you wouldn't stay, would you? No matter how much you loved them? It's alot like that. If someone keepa hurting you, and they have no intention of changing their behavior, then you have every right to save yourself and walk away from the situation. Family are people at the end of the day. And people hurt people.
They don't know how to listen they listen to reply as opposed to listening to understand what is actually being said.
“Are you sure you wanna do this?”
“Are YOU?!”
&
“Say one more word Tamar & I got you!”
Took me tf out. 💀💀💀
The way Tamar acted tonight she had to act this way as a child. The way she was comfortable with disrespecting Iyanla.
She did that when she was in the car and playing victim...and whoever was in the car amped her up
MAA1176 i think that’s the Nigerian boyfriend she has been talking about. It was a male who was with her but his face was blurred. Which makes me believe it was him. SHe was so damn disrespectful to Iyanla tho
They did say she was her mother's child ☕🐸
Where the hell is the brother?? I want to hear what he has to say! I feel like he got more truth to say than any of them.
Varian Hair he’s smart and is staying away from their mess
Varian Hair ikr the bro be in the cut he never around em he know better he’s an only boy my bro the same way 🤷♀️💯😩🤦♀️
He either the craziest one or the saniest one...can't figure it out.
Can you imagine being the only boy in a house full of women I dont blame him for living his regular life he's a nurse he dont have time for this mess lol
I agree, I feel his perspective would have brought out some truths as well but maybe he has moved on from his parents situation where his sisters haven’t.
Also Iyanla has the patience that I will never understand cause she should have cursed Tamar out for acting like that but Mama E put that in check even though it was kind of late for it
When I first saw on the shaderoom and what Toni said my first reaction was yup mhmmmm she meant that shit. I also read Toni's book being the oldest and her mom said don't forget about your sister all those years. Lorddddd thats a lot of weight to deal with and stressful.
Yes it is......their mother is something else saying that. Toni has had the burden of carrying them because she was successful first. And I bet u if she didn't help everybody they would have all turned against her. Starting with the mother first. Ms. Eveyln is a hateful woman and u can see it in her face. And I bet she's also been greedy throughout their life. She wants to be high and mighty....... because she feels that it's owed to her and she's entitled. I don't care for her at all.
Iyanla is a lawyer by trade. Worked in NYC.
There were several break throughs but for me the most important was Ms. E's break through. Ms. E needs her own session with Iyanla. She is living with so much pain and devastation over the betrayal of Michael in their marriage. I also saw the pain and devastation in her face when she made her confession to the family for putting her daughters in the middle of the divorce and controlling their lives. Ms. E looked so hurt. My heart goes out to her and I hope she will now get the help she needs to heal her own wounds. She has suffered long enough. Time to break free Ms. E from that painful betrayal.
Tamar wore me out this whole time until the VERY end! Smh
As soon as Mrs E yelled u can hear pin drop for a minute Toni and Trina face and reaction was like ima be quiet
The mom should’ve told Tamar to shut up way before she did
I was thinking the same thing. She let her act a fool until Iyanla said, "Who can control her? So it was like she had to do it because of how it made her 👀
I think it was because toni tried to step in and say something to Tamar and it didn't work Toni has to realize even tho she helped raise them only the parents can control the child.. Iyanla looked fed up like she wanted to baxk hand Tamar herself and become her temporary mom
Nisha Banks ... YES! A long time ago, as in when she was a CHILD, girl. 🙄 She’s BEEN acting like a spoiled brat, it’s just gotten progressively worse over the years.
Nisha Banks Miss Evelyn had ME scared the way she got Tamar together 😂Noone ever told Tamar "NO"
@@rogers5622 U felt scared??? Why? The mother is plastic as hell. Eveyln is hateful and mean. Her facial expressions tell it all.
I think Toni meant every word and I don’t think she meant “sometimes”. I feel like she really does not like them. She loves them out of obligation. That was hard to watch because she said it so coldly. But the family is toxic, so I see how it could happen.
She's definitely tired of them.
U are so right about that. But I don't blame Toni and I would get far away from them and live. She basically can't be happy because of them. Including the mother. Ms. Eveyln is hateful and mean spirited. I truly feel bad for Toni. And I'm sorry she even has to deal with them at all. Because they want everything Toni has. They are too much for her to deal with. That's why she can't be happy. And they are very jealous of her.
@@lorrainefischer4567 Exactly. Why the whole don't forget about your sisters thing? Why does she have to carry long in the tooth women? Some who have husbands! That's not her job. They are a very selfish tribe.
Traci's record charted higher than Tamar's last record. She's doing pretty good.
Pretty Dark Skin Girl TV yay Traci! People talk shit about Traci's singing but i like it and her album. Like the first one too
Lol that's a lie.
At one point Tamar looked like she was about to cuss out her mama then punch her in the throat. (I think that's the part where the molestation was brought up, but they just edited it out.)
That 40 year old child was being exorcised with every true word that came out of Iyanla's mouth. Tamar got the devil in her.
I know right! Scared the shhh out of me, it's like somebody else was in her body. Her facial expressions was scary. But I think Ms. E would have got with Tamar don't mess with old people.
That last line reminded me of The Exorcist where the girl head started spinning...that was Tamar's head/neck rolling in a nutshell
I’m sorry but I do NOT feel like Tamar’s apology was so sincere. She wasn’t even crying . If that wasn’t cringe worthy then idk wtf is . She was straining so hard to push some type of water out her eyes but it just wasn’t happening . Tamar is a damn child
After hearing Toni say what she said, & how these last few seasons of this show have turned their sister hood to shambles I definitely understand why Toni didn’t wanna do this show in the first place!
Iyanla was defending Tamar as the one left behind as the youngest ..and it jumped to "you are disrespecting me,Sis"! 😏🤔
All that head bopping, lip popping and neck swinging is soooooo going to rub off on little Logan. 🤦🏾♀️. Kids mimic nearly everything they see their parents do, and it’s not gonna look cute to see a toddler BOY, smacking his lips and rolling his neck in school.
Now that is so true!
Hahaaaa at the Dr. Sherri shade. On a sidenote, I wonder if seeing how *cough cough* unhelpful Dr. Sherri was for the Braxtons hurt Dr. Sherri's business in real life.
I see you STILL don't like Dr. Sherry LOL....and I don't blame you.
baybeetricia 😂😂😂😂 i cackled at what ashley about her 😂😂😂😂 she right tho😂😂
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Shows money doesn't buy happiness ...dysfunction can only be hid or silenced,so long..then it all erupts and has potential to corrupt...
Toni is me i genuinely feel that way about most of my family but im a loner tbh i dont really be caring how it makes them feel 🤷🏾♀️
Queen Tajae Same🙋🏾♀️
Queen Tajae same 🤷🏾♀️
Me too and I am not sorry for it
I missed the t-shirt but thought the same thing about the camouflage. You are more thorough than a employment drug test. I'm sick of folks calling her behavior a big personality when all her family members took Iyanla's words with maturity. Even Miss E took her walls down and realized that she was there to receive. People keep asking about where their father's balls were but I think he's been silenced years ago against all that estrogen because of his infidelity. Do your thing girl... You said that shit 💯‼️
Iyanla called this when she did Trina’s segment on her show. The mamma is the issue. Tamar is disrespectful!!! AND I’m glad she called Trina and Towanda out when she asked why can other ppl go and do other things and Traci not. They’re just selfish and have Traci as the outsider. Also, Ms. E is miserable and still hurt by what happened. She has to let it go and heal. The Daddy still cares for her, you could’ve told that from other seasons where he would always ask about her but Ms. E still holding a grudge. It’s been wayyyyy to long.
when toni said that I was like damn especially when she reiterated it by saying "if we weren't family we wouldn't be friends" and girl I was looking for tamar's tears too I even paused that shit
Tamara gets on my nerves she was disrespectful for no reason. Alway swinging that head because she so use to having hair. She need to just throw a wig on because her neck gone fall the heck off. She looks sick. Toni just never had the courage to tell them to leave her alone she put them on but still felt like she has to carry them all. Mike jr like I’m not in the mess. I don’t even watch the show but has to last night. How Tamar do all the heavy breathing and shaking with no tears girl bye.
U aint confused.....u know Tamar was lying on Wendy about Iyanla 😂
Mesi Blanks 😂😂😂😂
lmao that was funny as shit. lol she really may be confused though lol
To tell you the truth I couldn't bring my heart to watch it cause it had me had me cringing. I am so glad you reviewed this, great recap as always Ashley Tamar works my last nerve everytime.
Tamar has some serious issues! The way she carries on rolling her neck, swinging her imaginary wig, annoyed the heck out of me! She is already not that cute, but her actions make her ugly! Ms. E & her are the same; however, I am proud of Ms E for shutting down that disrespect!
I don’t care what anyone says, I feel Iyanla is AMAZING at what she does! She makes families have those difficult conversations that they would not normally have without anyone to mediate & dissect. I also understand where Toni is coming from. Sometimes we can feel overwhelmed by our family with no escape...
Tamar always looks and acts "Ugly"......she is just like her hateful mother. And Iyanla hit the nail on the head when she told Tamar that "She is abusive and violent" because she is. Tamar doesn't see how ugly she is because she's too busy being over dramatic for attention all the time!! I don't like her anymore at all.
I think when the mom started to go along with things & she yelled at Tamar to respect Iyanla. I think Tamar didn’t expect that from the mom. When Tamar came back from the car it was like a switch went off & she started to apologize for everything. I think they were right that Evelyn & Tamar are SO much alike. Iyanla was right when at said that Tamar’s behavior was a manifestation of all the Moms anger etc. Really powerful episode.👍😆
I do have to say Traci’s album was very good I wish it had more promotion.
I thought Iyanla did a wonderful job of keeping her composure but did y'all see RHONDA sneak out when Tamar called her Sis??? Lawd Rhonda said I got draws older than you. LMBO
Tamar was draining 😩😩 . Ms. E did redeem somewhat but she is not being honest with herself. But some additional help and counseling could definitely work for each of them together and individually.
You and I are both confused about why Tamar went off on Iyanla on the internet
Tamar's name calling accusation in that moment was a complete mind fuck. I wanted it to make sense but sense could not be found. Also the aftermath of Tamar's tweets just makes her seem more insane. I hope she gets real help. Tamar's behavior use to irritate me but now its just worrying.
I haven't watched this yet, cause I don't have We and I gotta wait til it comes up online so i'll listen to you and watch later. Thanks Ashley!
ME TOO GOGGLE PLAY TOMORROW!!
No Ma'am, Tamar was there only for the dramatics....Iyanla called it...Tamar wants attention to the very end. Her dramatic speech didn't not move me...she was still too extra with not one drop of a tear...eyes wasn't even red. Tamar gave a look at me , I'm a victim feel sorry for me speech ... I felt moved by everybody else but Tamar..
Another Great Review Ashley...
Tamar ,in my opinion, was fake...I think she believes that if she admits to "her confession" she is automatically excused for future bad behavior
i cried too because i felt the little breakthroughs in their lives...
You have the greatest reviews,love it!
Tamar a big as child, 40+ acting like a kid with all the faces and hand gestures, slang to much
Tamar is ghetto as hell. And totally disrespectful to anybody that says something she doesn't like. She should be on medication. Because she's definitely too much for anybody to deal with. I don't like her anymore.
Been waiting for your review lbs
I cried like a baby during tamar confessions and Lord knows I can't stand her..iyanla is amazing..she put Dr sherry to shame. It's a shame after this tamar and iyanla had drama 're the molestation because it was an excellent episode
Under normal circumstances I would have cried but I looked at Towanda and Toni and they were looking at Tamar like you're joking right??? If they didn't believe her, I couldn't either. Plus we know what she did and how she behaved AFTER the show aired. She ain't changed
Was waiting for your reaction :)))
I believe Tamar sent those tweets before episodes two was completed. Remember she said she walked out because someone revealed that she was molested. Well the walk out happened Tamar left and went and got in the car and she came back in and had a break through the end. I think Tamar has been holding a lot in fora long, long time and Iyanla pulled it out of her well all of them!
whole internet full of ppl and ur one of the few ppl who have enough sense to put that together. everyone is taking what was aired as a full play by play when lpts of footage is edited every episode
THANK YOU ASHLEY!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Her 'real' name is Iyanla. She was re-named by a mother in the African Yourba religion. I don't know what tamar thought she was exposing.
I was ready for your review on this so I can vent. 🤦🏾♀️
I’ve been waiting on this
I was waiting the whole time for Tamar's sexual violations to come up. Nothing. All of those commentators who made videos jumping on Tamar's bandwagon bashing Auntie Iyanla should learn from this. Tamar Braxton is an unreliable source for information. She's a perpetual victim. Get more facts before you take up arms in her honor.
A breakdown with no tears! 😂😂😂
I feel like Tamar owes Iyanla an apology. She said some awful things about her in the media. We now see what really happened. I know the show is edited but it looks to me like the stuff Tamar said happened- didn’t. I hope she gets help. There’s clearly something going on with her that needs healing. We all do.
Sounds like Evelyn stayed pregnant and daddy was always at work to provide for the family and once Toni signed her contract Evelyn made it clear that she needs to take care of family.When I win the lottery I'm not telling NOBODY .
So they ended in a decent vibe. If there was any sexual abuse discussion WE EDITED it out. Tamar FAKE cried and asked for forgiveness THEN TURNED AROUND THE NEXT DAY AND CALLED IYANLA THE DEVIL . so all of that was Tamar just being extra and fake. Thats why Toni just stared qt her
catmo59 or did she send the tweets from the car?
@@qmarie9854 completely agree
@@juliedavis7445 yeah she did
Tha!ks for a gud review!
This is a family of believers. Talking about old wounds is a scapegoat. The Lord will release you from any past brokenness, if you let Him. Tamar is spoiled and somewhat manipulative.
When you are grown , you own you behaviors. How do you grow otherwise?
When I say, Tamar's confessions kinda lowkey hit me in the "thoke". I just hope she sticks to her guns this time. Ijs. 🤷🏽♀️
She obviously did not...right after the show she went around saying Iyanla "sex shamed" her...where... whem??
Nope. Didn't happen . She is still on Wendy and social media blaming Rhonda. smh
Hey Ashley, I’m here for your review on this episode of the finale BFV that damn Tamar was so disrespectful with her bad attitude and was out of order with Ms.Iyanla, and she just showed how difficult it is for anybody to work with her and they family has a lot of healing to do and thanks for Ms.Iyanla, for giving them the tools to work with.
Ooooo girl..Ms. Ashley I almost jumped through my computer screen to give you a high five when you said Dr. Sherry wasn't worth shit when it came to these girls and they issues...I said a million years ago that they should have been gone to see Iyanla...Glad I am not the only one who saw that.
Tamar is a hot steaming pile of mess
A Breakthrough with no tears 😢
Hey Ashley👋🏽 Imo, as a whole, the whole thing was a success. Props to Ms Iyanla for that. It looks like a good start,so im confused about Tamar's negative comments online,Wendy,etc....also I never heard Iyanla call her a single name or even imply it. Tamar's behavior was horrible for no reason. Its like she wanted a problem with Iyanla,when there wasnt one...
Tamar is close to 51/50 watch
Problem: its not about getting folk "the fuck together". The sooner we learn that they better. I like Iyanla but she can be a bit dramatic and brash herself. I know thats her style but she is so triggering.Tamar is spoiled! We've known that for years. I did like that she finally apologize and was able to verbalize her faults in front of her family. But what I am not getting is why she went online to call Iyanla the devil. It seemed like they ended the session on god terms. What happened?
KamauATL Yes. She triggers bc most issues in most families comes from people hiding things. She puts it on the table. A psychologist would never. They would take forever to get to the point. They called her so they knew what time it was and came ready to fight HER instead of facing the truth. Tamar ain’t never been called out like that so she probably really does feel like Iyanla is the devil...cause she sees right thru her and ain’t gon tolerate that mouf lol.
The Good Comment exactly! To call Iyanla means you want to get down to it! Like Tamar said she had a different plan and that was to come out of it on top (exonerated). And I think a lot of Iyanla guests think they are gonna manipulate the moment but not on Iyanla WATCH!
Great Review Ashley, you touched every point. I like BFV but live for Iyanla. She did a Great job as always, not sure why people don't get her. I really cried from Tamar confession, no tears, but it truly was heartfelt. I was left wanting more though. I see Tamar still needs help becuz she jumped the gun outing Iyanla about molestation. I guess WETV won again in the end! Lol
I enjoyed this episode, I feel a little bit bad Tamar, but lyanla was very direct on everything
That table scene brought me to tears. I'm just glad they were finally able to be honest with one another. It's only the start but I truly hope everything works out for them.
And Tamar turned right around and went on Wendy and social media and called Iyanla the devil! That girl will never change. Prettty sure she needs medication
When Tamar said sis I hollered 🤷♀️😩💯
I started getting Teary-eyed at that Confession.😢🤧🙂
I feel like Iyanla wanted to say something about Tamar's "break down" being a deflection, but instead she accepted the effort from Tamar trying to go with the process.
Tamar's defensive behavior is that of a hurting and angered individual who has suppressed so much emotion as a coping mechanism that whenever they are the topic of discussion in regards to their contributions of problematic issues that suppressed emotion emerges. She is in desperate need of not only a reality check but a safe space to express herself without being guarded and then given a heartwarming hug. Love is so necessary to us all
Great review! I think the Braxton family need a few more sessions of therapy with Ms. V or another good life coach or therapist. I believed Tamar when see had her breakthrough. I'm not gonna lie, I cried with real tears for Tamar. Toni's interview was powerful and sad. Tina and Traci both had me in tears. Great season finale.
I liked your review, Ashley. So, all of Tamar's meanness towards Miss Iyanla was misplaced and far-fetched??? This smacks of a woman not being truthful with herself or anyone else...Get help, Tamar...SMH...
Exactly but She never had the chance to "grow up". The age her parents or Dad wasnt there physically from working is the age she's stuck at. She was a teenager. Being a Life coach and studying psychology it's easy to see why shes how she is. Plus Braxton said Tamar never got disciplined which is the cause for the effect TODAY!
Your beef with Dr. Sherry is hilarious
Marsha Stephenson ain’t no beef. The lady just isn’t good at her job and it shows. All of them went to her, at some point, and none never had a breakthrough. She’s too soft
2 hours wasnt enough.. i cried at the end but Tamar made it about her again
That must have been the most humiliating and painful experience for Evelyn PLUS they were big in the church so that makes it even worse. That situation probably plays on her over and over again. She gotta find a way to move forward and either let him go completely or forgive him and move forward as friends
My question now is... Was the tweets Tamar sent out during part 1 or part 2 while she was in the car taking a "break"? Because the way this ended, I'm not seeing how she could of felt the same way and she had such a positive break through. After admitting that she came there just to make sure nothing was her fault. Did they go back to their old ways right after and she just blamed her?
AWWW man I was so busy crying myself I didn't even notice that Tamar didn't have any tears but I think she was real in that moment ...well I pray she was/is. I am happy Ms. E had a better day than the other day because she was just mean that day. This famly needs prayer and some of this and that and some more of that over there....but we all do they are just on tv. Damn good episode though.
This was the best ever i loved what mama did, you go Ms. E💪😉she needed that shit an im glad she said sorry to.the whole fam an Ms. Iyanla was right Tamara lives momma pain she made that song🎤🎶 My MAN , for her mom not her. we PISCES🐟 hold others pain in with our own an that's why we seem crazy to others but this was GREAT!!👍👍👏
Tamar got that inner cry! 😩
babahahaha
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Tamar be doing way to much🙄🙄
Iyanla has a law degree..she was a prosecutor in NY for years..she more degrees than a thermostat..
Well!!!!!!! I been waiting for this review cause I wasn’t going to watch that BS last week I thought they were doing this for the money, and still believe it for the most part. But anyone who’s been watching their show knows they have cliques within....Tamar and Mama Traci is totally alone just like Toni on their own island and Trina and Tawanda are the last clique. I am wondering was this all a stunt to get ratings up cause anit nobody checking for the show. Toni never wanted the show but that money got funny but...now she got Birdman and that Cash Money well...what’s left after lil Wayne get the rest of his will she be back on WE TV. Ms Ashley thanks for the review cause I wasn’t going to watch.
I saw this comment and it still stands true. "Ms. Evelyn is Civil RIGHTS mean. lol" I HOLLERED. I was confirmed when she Shut all the sisters down indirectly just by shutting Tamar down.
in the last episode didn't they say Toni had a last minute appointment thats why she was late ?
One thing about Ms. V, the TRUTH will come OUT!! What happens after they leave is totally up to them. A lot was revealed, they should be grateful. WETV should build a show around Traci and move on.
😂 They say Iyanla finally fixed somebody's life.😄
I was crying more this episode and I hope Tamar do get the help she needs.