The Rise and Fall of the Goa'uld | Stargate Lore
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- A discussion of the history of the Goa’uld empire, their rise to power and their ultimate failure to maintain dominance over the galaxy. Because the Goa’uld empire. empire had come to dominate the Milky Way Galaxy, in the early years of the Stargate program, the Goa’uld proved themselves to be a constant threat each time the humans of earth set out among the stars.
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Honestly, I really liked Ba'al and Lord Yu. They both seemed to be the only Gou'uld with enough common sense to recognize just how fragile their system actually was and didn't let the "god-hype" go to their heads.
Yu was great and I hate they killed him off. But that was for the best, given his worsening mental health state. But Ba'al tho.... That guy was a chad. Really the only Goa'uld I take my hat off for respect. He didn't just went for the extra mile when it came to things that needed to be done, he went an extra lightyear. He was beyond resourceful, was the only Goa'uld who didn't let his species' norms and the genetic memory corrupt his free will and self-awareness, he showed moments of genuine kindness, he was a badass, a genius strategist, a hero and a villain, all in all a very intelligent individual, a survivor, and most importantly, he admitted his species is basically a bunch of circus clowns pretending to be gods. He wasn't below serving when it counted, and he held the people of Earth in such an high esteem that during the time travel arc, he ordered, as the supreme system lord, the others to protect and help humanity, as he had tremendous respect for their tenacity, resourcefulness, strategies, fighting spirit, and he knew they had virtually unlimited potential if allowed to grow under their guidance.
Ra, Sokar and Apophis were the ones that really fell for their own BS!
@@Allangulon yep, they drank their own cool aid more than the others
@@vladchannelyt All this was also the reasons why Baal was the most troublesome of adversaries, cause he was flexible and prone to change his ways and a real opportunist.
Some where more brutal and cruel, but ultimatly they where all the instruments of their own downfall in one way or another
For Baal SG1 and the others really had to go the extra mile to try and get him.
Baal was great and seemed far more smart and versatile than the other system lords. RIP Cliff Simon.
It bears stressing that Ra managed to hold together the Goa'uld empire for 3000 years and within a few short years after his death, it all fell apart. Certainly the Tau'ri played a role in that, but it speaks to Ra's cunning that he alone could hold an empire together made up of ego-maniacal, back-stabbing snakes.
@Lokabrenna Yes, but his downfall came from two simple things.
Firstly, his position as an undefeated, unchallenged Supreme System Lord, and his military might, basically guaranteed no Goa'uld would ever dare harm him. He knew of no other race that might be able to hurt him either. So he was stuck to the exact same lifestyle and upheld it for thousand of years, never evolving as a person, only allowing his ego to inflate.
Secondly, when he first encountered the Tau'ri, while concerned for their technological advancements after realizing they had mastered nuclear fission, HE DID make a smart move, trying to use the Gate's Naquadah composition to amplify the nuclear blast on Earth, likely to something around 15 megatons of TNT (I can't remember the exact number), which would cause the world to panic, and most likely spark a nuclear war, letting them kill themselves. But his crucial, and fatal, mistake was the fact that he underestimated gravely the cunning of modern day humans and their fighting spirit, which made him let his guard down (as he was certain he had already won), and most importantly, he was COMPLETELY unfamiliar with any and all tactics trained modern army personnel might use. He really didn't expect them to use his own rings to beam the nuke on board his Ha'tak lmao
It's not like we had anyone to compare him to, considering that every time another System Lord stepped up to fill in the Vacuum Ra left the Tau'ri ended up killing them within a few years
Don't forget about the sarcophagus, which basically caused the downfall of the Goa'uld. Those who spend less time seem more "sensible", see osiris(who spends time in a stasis jar) or Anubis(ascended).
My headcanon is that Ra didn't use the sarcophagus himself, he gifted it to the System Lords in order to better control them. Easier to cow them when they are paranoid af.
@@Silverhawk100 I suspect that Ra did use a sarcophagus, but he perfected it and got rid of the side-effects. When ras ship blew up the only version of this sarcophagus was destroyed. I think that is also the reason Ras body and symbiote didn't age for all the millennia he lived, his version of the sarcophagus kept him basically ageless.
Ba'al and his clones were so much fun
The only thing that kinda bugged me was Sokar, or, more specifically, how little he was actually used, given they hyped him up as the Goa'uld who took on the persona of Satan
@Lokabrenna Interesting point, I never thought about the absence of a Goa'uld posing as the Judeo-Christian God.
Could an in-universe explanation be that contact with the Goa'uld was cut off in pre Judeo-Christian times, after the Stargate in ancient Egypt was buried?
Yes I enjoyed the Sokar episodes shame that there were so few
@Lokabrenna I dunno, they never explained if ancient Earth mythology was based on the Goa'uld or if they just appropriated mythology that already existed. I think the latter would be more likely since the system lords make up several different pantheons, and we don't have any legends about Egyptian gods beefing with greek or Babylonian gods.
@Lokabrenna not just the Christians, you have to consider the sensibilities of the time and the fears of inciting Muslims to act out or fear of being seen as insensitive towards their beliefs, also that many of the people in Hollywood have their own Abrahamic faith even more closely tied to that angry national sky deity than for Christians and Muslims and it might offend them to delve too deep into that tangent for SG1.
@@battlesheep2552 historically those gods from the different pantheons were all basically seen as interchangeable with different names and details of the same deities specific to each culture, like Thoth-Hermes, Cronos as Baal Haamon etc. I have always found their views on the world and the divine to be quite fascinating that way and wish there was more information about their faith that survived down to the modern era, firsthand accounts especially but what little we do know is still a trip to me.
I remember the episode where SG1 helped the rebel Jaffa (secretly being led by Imhotep), and O'Neil called the staff weapons weapons of terror, and Earth P90s weapons of war. The Goa'uld were used to fighting each other for so long war had become ceremony of a sort, and they saw humans in general as little more than animals that were easily terrified into submission. Tauri forces could adapt and fight back faster and harder than the Goa'uld were used to, and while technologically inferior, they could use their tech (and what they acquired from off world) more efficiently.
That episode put to words what I had been thinking since I started watching SG1. I loved that episode
Haha that's easily one of my favorite scenes and sums up why the show works.
The Goa'uld were never truly prepared for war, too much petty squabbling over territory and no real advancements in weapons for war, hubris and ego prevented strides in they're technology, keeping them in a technological jam of sorts.
I remember that episode too. That scene was one of the best parts.
Well ask any soldier whats his preference: a gun with limited ammo or a gun with unlimited ammo....
Regards
Stargate felt like a proper spiritual successor to Star Trek. Close knit crew, explore a new planet/world every week, good mixture of long-running storylines and fresh "monster of the week" episodes. It managed to do a lot with relatively simple (but very effective) props.
Now we just need a spiritual successor to Stargate.
How is the Stargate reboot ? I've not been able to watch it.
I think the genetic memories of the Goa'uld reinforced their evil nature, making each generation more arrogant as well, because it did the opposite with the Tok'Rah. The sarcophagus was based on ancient technology that was never calibrated for their parasitic nature or humanoids not on the verge of ascention and one would think that would be quite different from a biochemical perspective.
Yeah that makes sense
The Tok'Ra come across to me as being very arrogant and they also have that set in their ways mentality that the Gh'ould have. Humans single handedly defeated the Gh'ould in a decade, the Tok'Ra did pretty much nothing to dent their power and they were fighting them for thousands of years.
@@manticore4952
It is called plot armor and the plucky underdogs always win no matter the odds.
Anubis may have been the most advanced but I personally think Baal was the most dangerous, he was extremely intelligent, he was somewhat able to overcome his ego if he needed help which was extremely rare for a goa'uld, he even decided to serve Anubis when knew how powerful he had become. Apophis was resilient but his plans rarely worked, Baal was nearly always one step ahead of the SGC.
Baal real strenght was his flexibility and its opportunistic nature.
He knew when to not overstay his welcome and when to fall bakc or cut his loses, and he new of to make the best of most situations
The guy, imho was basically David Xanatos from Gargoyles, but as an Alien, Baal was pulling the Xanatos Gambit all along!
For those not knowing, David Xanatos is one of the main antagonist of the 90's animated series called "The Gargoyles" (basically Disney's reponse to WB Batman animated series).
What made Xanatos great is that he always had a plan, and if his plan failed he had a backup plan to fall on, his flexibility and resourcefullness was unbound and unmatched, and the fact that he wasn't a complete villain, but more like a Chaotic Neutral, made him the most iconic antagonist of the show.(wich in a show where you had Historical figures such has McBeth and King Arthur or mythological like Odin, Oberon & Titania and Puck, was no small feat at all)
They named it the "Xanatos Gambit": a manouevre where the character has so many contingencies and plans for a given situation, that EVEN when the outcome looks like it was a HUGE lose on the surface, in truth it was still a marginal Win for the character, who even if the prime objective has eluded him, he still managed to get that piece of info/that object that would allow him to move forward with his plans and still considere it a win.
i wouldn't say baal was more dangerous than Anubis, as Anubis was planning to use the Dakara superweapon to destroy all life within the galaxy.
that trumps all the goa'uld if you ask me. and the whole reason why baal ended up in the service of Anubis in the first place was simply out of survival as Anubis was un-killable due to his half ascended form, which is why so many other goa'uld and Jaffa ended up in the service of Anubis as they never had a chance.
however the whole ascended eternal combat thing that they wrote in for Oma, was lazy writing and could have lead to a better outcome.
Baal betrayed Anubis when Anubis attempted to destroy every living thing in the Galaxy yet you think Baal was more dangerous?
That's confusing.
Honestly, the video undercut what Baal did. His time travel device was pretty incredible. It fed real time data from across the galaxy to the base, predicting when solar flares would happen, and then calculating which combination of gates could lead to you traveling back in time to the proper date. It was probably the single most advanced piece of tech build in the Milky Way that wasn't made by the Ancients, and it honestly gave them a run for their money in its scale and capabilities.
"We have no right to play God, but neither do the Goa'uld. Now I know none of this seems real to you on paper, but trust me, they're pure evil." -- Daniel Jackson
Loved the Goa'uld, some of the most memorable bad guys in sci-fi.
Favourite. Hathor.
Go on ask me why
RiIP Cliff Simon, Willie Garson and Don S Davis. Fantastic actors.
Shit I knew Don s Davis died years ago but no idea those two had died. So young too RIP.
Thank you for making this video. I believe Stargate is an extremely underrated sci fi show. I am of course looking back on the show with rose tinted glasses. I grew up watching SG-1 with my mom on the Sci-Fi channel. SG-1 Mondays. Anyway, I think you did a great job putting the history into a timeline. Great job.
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@@zarnofuk Teal'c reference :)
I rewatched SG-1 last year and it still holds up extremely well. If you're in the US, it's on Netflix.
Yeah it was fun
Minor quibble: I know this isn't stated anywhere, but I believe it is implied, but might just be my headcanon.
Unas are easier for the Goa'uld parasite to heal, an Unas with a Goa'uld regenerates from wounds almost as fast as they can be inflicted (as seen by Unas, voiced by James Earl Jones, in the episode Thor's Hammer). In the film, Ra states that he likes humans because their bodies are so easy to repair, indicating the sarcophagus that had just brought Daniel back from the dead. The series later establishes the sarcophagus is based on Ancient technology, and the Ancients were essentially humans, so the sarcophagus tech works best on human bodies. It isn't calibrated properly for an Unas, so it less efficient. Human hosts are still more fragile than Unas ones, and can be killed pretty easily (as demonstrated by SG-1 on numerous occasions), but if you can get them to a sarcophagus quickly enough, they'll come right back. An Unas may be able to survive more damage and heal quicker, but once dead, the sarcophagus may not be able to restore the host and the Goa'uld to life.
So it's not that humans were preferred because they were easier for the symbiotes to repair, but because they were easier for the sarcophagus (and probably the hand healing device) to repair.
I absolutely love this idea!!! It makes a lot of sense.
Similar to the Asgard, the sarcophagus killed off the Goa'uld. They sought too much in technology. The people who ascended didn't live very complicated lives for the most part. "Death is only the beginning of the journey" is not that far from Buddhism seeing death as an illusion.
One of the biggest flaws of the System Lords was their species' lack of innovation when it came to technology. they were scavengers and rarely developed new tech on their own. One of the system Lords did develop a form of off-world explorer, but probably got the idea from the explorer machines used by Stargate Command.
Kind of reminiscent of the Borg, who didn't create anything truly new, as well as assimilated other beings & technology.
SG1 and Farscape are my favorite sci-fi shows, people barely remember or know about those shows anymore.
Farscape will always be my favorite sci Fi shows
Hear, hear
Stargate is pretty well known. Farscape on the other hand I feel you correct 😢
I wish we could have had more Hathor episodes. I also like the Nerus episodes, just how amazed he was with earth food. "Individually frosted CAKES!!"
Honestly, Hathor should have been the main enemy after the start of Season 3. Killing her off was a missed opportunity to have her partner with Sokar.
I subscribed for Dune I will stay for Stargåte
Ba'al is my favorite system lord. He was aware that he's not an actual god. I remember an episode (from season 9?) where he mentions to Teal'c that the system lords bought their own propaganda.
Lord Yu is my favorite for being the only one to appose Anubis and for his agreeable spirit. Then of course there is Ba'al. :)
So, The Goa'uld were naquadah addicts, a side effect of which is egocentrism and aggression. They ignored all the friends who urged them to go to a treatment center. This is the sad moral tale, with its wake of harms done and ultimate death. Just Say NO to Naquadah.
Naquadah. Not even once.
Hooray, more Stargate! Thanks very much for making this!
The Goa'uld's weakness was not moral (hubris, greed, cruelty, etc.) rather it was their parasitic nature. They were able to take advanced technology, but they were not advanced CULTURALLY... their industry was feudal, their government monarchy, their public education virtually non-existent (even of negative value given the opposition to letting slaves read or write). Think about it: By the end, the Tauri were fielding FAR more advanced weapons, ships, and other technologies than anything the Goa'uld ever had... Why? Because the Goa'uld squandered the creative and intellectual capabilities of literally Trillions of human slaves across their empire.
The death of Ra shouldn't be underestimated. Without the supreme System Lord to provide a unifying force, the others fell into rivalry and civil war long enough for earth to get its feet under it.
@@JagentExactly! That was mentioned in many episodes with regards to how the Goa'uld let the Tauri advance beyond their own capabilities. It was infighting. Ball was incredibly intelligent yet couldn't get out of his own way.
Chaka...Daniel...Jak...son!.
Division and a failure to recognize threats. Like humanity. Which could have easily been eliminated after ra died . But they were busy infighting.
I never knew Ra was just a blip in this universe. Thank you, as always!
I saw Stargate in the theaters... I'm old.....
I think Ra was probably the greatest of them. He held it together for thousands of years. It all fell apart relatively quickly after his death.
Yeah Stargate aas one of the few movies I saw in theaters as a kid too
YES! More Stargate, please! Thank you!
Agreed. Love me some Stargate lore.
Always love when SG stuff gets uploaded, thank you for taking the time to narrate that
I would love to see a prequel to the original series all about the rise of the Goa’uld mainly the rise of Ra to supreme system lord.
I think it would make a great mini series or 1-2 seasons. Someone at Amazon MGM needs to get working on it.
Oh man I am so excited that you are covering stargate! Fell into this channel for the dune lore and now get this jewel! Woot woot
I love your channel and Stargate is a really underated franchise, keep up the good work
My favourite sci fi franchise, hope they make new series/movies
Underrated? I thought it is one of the most popular ones right after the giants like star wars and star trek. Certainly more popular than Farscape or Lexx
Stargate is peak sci-fi. The occasional campiness and bad CGI is just part of the fun.
I always saw Apophis more as a mid to low tier System lord , like the distruction of two Motherships were enough to shake his power Base, I mean what are two Motherships lol
I felt the same way. He only really became a true Too Tier System Lord after he usurped Sokar. And that didn't last too long
I hope they make more seasons/spin-offs!
I always liked Stargate SG-1, but it always bugged me that the Goa’uld ruled the galaxy for so long fell in a matter of years. I kind of wish it was shown to always be unstable (hanging on my a thread), or already in massive decline.
Well, humans were constantly improving tech, tactics and expanded their influence across the galaxy and made many allies. The Goa’uld were stagnating and infighting mostly. Also the Asgard!!! If you’re familiar with the game Halo, it’s similar to that how the aliens are super powerful and have super tech at first, but they barely evolve like humans, so they got whooped relatively fast once humans adapted their tech and improved it etc.
Can't forget the replicators, and Jafa rebellion. Since the Jaffa were their slaves and many had doubts about the Goa'lds true power (cause of the Tok'ra etc) it became a bit of a cascade when the Jaffa started rebelling on mass. Once they knew they had a chance many of them took it, while before, best they could do was stay silent and not even think about fighting back
@Bichute is better than UA-cam
This would be equal to the French resistance during ww2; while inconvenient it by itself wouldn’t have caused the downfall of the Germans.
@Bill Ausofbounds
10 thousand years isn’t much when talking about stars; that amount of time is huge for civilizations.
And Stargate command also said not to engage with the system lords and eventually with the Asgards come up with a truce bc of the Replicator threat.
Even with a civil war going on they were still more technologically advanced; till the Asgard gave humans their tech.
@@gbalfour9618 humans had already defeated several goauld before that and helped start the jaffa rebellion, the asgard gave technology more as payment for the several times humans helped them, the asgard were nearly as stagnant as the goauld
Yay! Door to heaven, I mean Stargate. I know some pieces don’t fit, but does anyone think Ra in the movie was an Asgard from the small glimpse we had? A Goa’uld inside an Asgard disguised as a human, dressed as Ra?
As we all know, the Asgard had great holographic projection technologies, I could accept this as headcannon.
Are they defeated yes are they gone, no longer a threat no,
There are still some minor goauld out there, whit small numbers of loyal jaffa, I just think they would be hiding and preparing for a comeback, maybe not getting again control of the galaxy, but to once more become a powerful force in the galaxy, one needs to remember the goauld took over the galaxy, because they were for all purposes unopposed.
You have a great voice for this stuff. And you do great detail work. Well done.
Damn this brings back memories. I haven’t thought about words like Goa’uld or Jaffa in years!
Shol'vah and kree in there too?
I love your breakdowns, especially for stargate!
Love this video thank you so much. The Stargate universe is one of my fav sci-fi shows.
Thank you so much for this video. I always considered the SG Mythos utter crap and you confirmed it.
SG Atlantis however, remains my guilty pleasure ;)
Excellent narration, contrary to what the dudebros who only like manly voices deep in their ears have said. And how many times did Apophis "die" only to come back when needed for more story elements? Not nearly enough times.
I do appreciate especially when Nerus flat out says "oh the voice thing? We can turn it off its not necessary" more or less lol
The ultimate weakness that the Goa'uld never developed their own tech. The "advanced" tech is at least 5000 years old and never advanced since
Tau'ri, on the other hand, were able to surpass Goa'uld tech, replicator tech, Ori tech, Wraith tech and Asurans in less than 15 years by developing their own tech as well as studying alien tech, reverse engineering and surpassing it, wiping out all of those societies
@Lokabrenna Even still, they've acquired superior tech to the Goa'uld, Replicators, Wraith, Asurans and Ori from the infirior position they were from their first encounters with each race to 15 years later
As for reverse engineering, with the X 301, as Jacob Carter said, "You just took two Death Gliders, slapped some Air Force decals (rondels) on them and called it a day."
The X 302 was completely human built and reversed engineered from scratch. Just like the ONE 303 ship, the Prometheus as well as the 6 known 304s
The weapons, engines and shields may be Asgardian in origin, but they DID inherit them for the Tau'ri being "The Fifth Race" and there is no telling what they will be able to go from there
@Lokabrenna Actually, no IMO
The Tau'ri did, in fact, steal, two death gliders in order to create the X 301, that's true, but everything else, with the possible exceptions of intars, were either reversed engineered from the Goa'uld or given to them from friendly powers like the Asgardians
The Goa'uld, on the other hand, stole their tech, as is, from other cultures, particularly the Ancients
Now, you may argue that the Ancients were already dead or ascended by the time the Goa'uld got to them and you'd probably be right. But I think that they probably acquired the tech as it already was and/or altered its appearance somewhat to conform to their cultural preferences rather than improve on the tech over time
We saw in the original 1995 movie, as well as the SG1 2 part episode "Morpheus" that Jaffa staff weapons were identical today as they were 5 or even 10,000 years ago whereas Tau'ri tech improved in less than 10 as is shown by the difference between the Prometheus class battlecruiser and the Daedalus class battlecruiser
@Lokabrenna You're not getting what I'm saying either
Yes, the Tau'ri were given most, if not ALL the tech they have from others
BUT
I believe that they take what they have now (As of the end of SG: Universe) and develop tech on their own that will far outshine the tech that Goa'uld, Asgardians, Asurans, Ancients etc. have in the near future, tech that is NOT given or reverse engineered or even derived from the other cultures
The Goa'uld cold never do that 5000 years
The Asgardians called the Tau'ri "The Fifth Race" I don't think that they would've done so to a race of mere scavengers like the Goa'uld
@Lokabrenna The big issue seems to have been the Naqadah generators. They were directly taught to build those by the uh Orban? The one with the kid geniuses. After that they could actually use and understand the tech they found much faster.
@TheAn Onymous From what I've seen on the series, only Ba'al and a couple of other of his companions had the ability to reverse engineer anything
The two others that I think had the capabilities to do so were Nerus and possibly Athena
Anubis, for as powerful as he was, couldn't. He could only use existing tech
Osiris didn't have any aptitude for it though like her master Anubis, could use Ancient tech
This was a great video - thank you!
What sticks with me most is the glorious scene of legions of warriors kneeling before the robed system lord shouting "Hail, Anubis!"
Sokar had great potential...his quick demise was a waste
First as always great video. Second can we really think of the Gould as an empire? Or a collection of warlords? My favorite Gould is Baal he had such great character. The actor was amazing may God rest his soul.
Love it. Well done.
I'm particularly fond of the revelation "We don't HAVE to talk like that." Forgive me if the wording is not exact. It's been a while.
If the goauld could have just worked together for five seconds they would have taken over literally everything. It was their selfishness and hubris that got them in the end, otherwise we'd all have our own symbiote rn.
I'm really liking these Stargate episodes, it was and is one of my favorite shows of all time
You are confused when the Series Starts the Goau'ld already.own everything and are at the laziest time period in their empire. Everything had been going well for thousands of years.
10k years ago tye Goau'ld were saved from extinction by Ra when he discovered humans. Their empire was revitalized .
Heya cookies, happy new year!
Any chance you'd look at making some clips about the Foundation series?
I really don't get any Gail was put off the ship!
Thanks for the content and all the best for 22
Yeah I'm sure I'll do one eventually! Good recommendation!
I love this channel… buiuuuuut… you need to upload to a podcast format also. That way I can listen at work! 😬
I hope we will get more Stargate here..I want to hear more about the Asgard
Fun fact. The name of the Unas was a mistranslation of the word Anus. As that was where the goauld parasite would invade their host in the initial stage.
The battle when Anubis was destroyed has to be one of my favorite battle scenes ever
To this day Richard Dean Anderson mispronunciation of Goa’uld as Goauld messes me up whenever I try to explain this show to my friends and I love that air force colonel, (general), for leaving such an imprint on me from the show XD.
I always wanted to see a time travel episode going way back before 10,000 BC where we would actually see the Goa'uld before using humans as hosts. I always fantasized about this story (maybe a Sg1 Atlantis movie) bringing together The old Unas era Goa'uld, and their war with the great Alliance especially the Asgard and Ancients. This could have addressed Ra temporarily using an Asgard host, and maybe even explaining the Asgard in the Pegasus Galaxy.
One of my favorite series of all time
You know I wonder has anyone made a compilation or list of how many times Christopher Judge has said "Indeed"
Naquida could have been introduced via contamination of their breeding pools and then over time the gua'ould species developed a mutation to take advantage of the material being a 'warm superconductor' and it just progressed their species from there.
Do anyone out there notice the system lord's in the end die screaming it broke my heart when ba'al finally was removed by the tok'ra
Nerus. He was my favorite Goa'uld. Played by Maury Chaykin RIP
Excellent 👌
You need to cover Lord Yu. The Wisest of the Goa'uld.
Good video. The song you use for your channel is used by like 1 in 10 channels it seems.
When people ask me Star Wars or Star Trek..
I tell them Stargate.
I honestly think Seth is the more interesting 'lord.' Staying hidden for so long, yet being so utterly myopic as to constany be exposed and forced out, only to be found in... Washington!? For shame.
Great video. Regarding naquadah being present in Goa'uld physiology, I think it's been surmised that the mineral was endemic to their original homeworld's ecology, present in all the lifeforms there, including the Unas. I could be wrong, of course.
I thought when they were testing Goa'uld fossils they proved that there was no naquadah present meaning it became part of their biology later after they left their homeworld.
@@Phoenix_of_Sun Forgot about that. I stand corrected.
Would you consider doing another Star Wars Lore video some time in the future? I'm curious to hear your observations of Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ahsoka Tano because they are both getting their own shows on Disney+. Of all the Star Wars characters, Obi and Ahsoka are perhaps the most consistently likeable.
I'd love to but Star Wars consistently underperforms on this channel. I do have a video about both of those shows I did about a year ago
Ah, fair enough. Either way, I love your channel and how eloquently speak. Keep up the great work!
Actually I found Ba'al's attempt to change history interesting. Rather than destroy earth, he seemed genuinly interested in changing the way Goaul went about doing things. Of course he may have intended to dismantle the Tauri from within once he gained their trust, but to be honest i didnt get that impression. He seemed genuinly excited to enjoy the fruits of being in an alliance with the Tauri and Jaffa. After all, he could easily have solved the problem by taking a single Hatak to Earth as soon as he made it to the past. But instead he systematically took over the system lords, treated his Jaffa well while promising them freedom, did his best to keep the love of his life by his side, and approached the Humans with talk of an alliance. To me it came across as someone who decided he like the way he'd seen the Tauri get to opperate, and attempted to emulate it. Just poorly. Also whod have thought someone as cunning as him would develop a big enough soft spot to end up dying to a Goaul that he should have known not to trust. Love is blind and all that.
I totally agree, as soon as he got a whiff of the modern humanity he wanted in all the way, even as much as changing history just to be able to live there, I think he got a taste for capitalism and couldn't go back
Baal succeeded in his time-travel and became Kane from Command & Conquer
Yay Stargate!
rip baal's actor cliff simon
If we see the return of a new Stargate series then there's potential for Anubis and Adria to Return who knows they may even team up on an uneasy alliance.
Anubis is my favourite system lord, he's just so sinister.
I'm such fan of Apophis, he was what in my mind villain god would look and act like👌
*Goa'uld (Stargate) vs. Yeerks (Animorphs)*
there are 3 broad categories of Gou'ald though individual gou'alds may show multiple traits or shift more towards one during their story each snake is primarily one of these 3 qualities
Warmonger- gains power by combat often leads their troops themselves they buy into the godhood delusion but aren't so far gone to make rational military decisions(Apophis, Herur come to mind)
Psycho-completely by into their god status, willing to do every nasty thing to anyone who crosses them even if it isn't rational to do so(Anubis(he starts more practical but quickly degrades especially after the drone attack),Chronos, Molock, Sokar are good examples of this)
Pragmatist- Using political, espionage, or tech to gain power willing to drop the god stick if it's in their interest(Ba'al, Yu, Niriti) a lot of lesser Gou'ald fall into this category like Tanus, Osiris and camulas.
I do wonder if there is still some lesser system lords in a corner soemwhere rulling a few worlds
I'm surprised the Asgard weren't mentioned more since they were at war for hundreds of years
As the saying goes,"Absolute power corrupts absolutely!"
lord ba'al made being the villain look cool.
I always wondered what the Goa`uld would have done had they achieved total technological knowledge and total dominance of the universe. Would they finally just relax and enjoy life being served every second of everyday? Or would they continue infighting? I dont know what makes them happy. I dont know what their goal is. What exactly are they fighting for?
Usually a civilization breaks off into two separate groups, is theremany hint of that happening here.. or created races in the different galaxy
Thanks guys.
I really hope that mgm makes a new Stargate tv series 🙏
My favourite was U.
There is one major problem with the goal if they were so powerful as system lords why the hell did the tree get attacked only by two ships
All the other battles you see is them with motorboat ships into the double digits, and if one of us is to have enough chips to take over a system of another system Lorde they should be able to say more than 2 to earth to a attach The system they will want.
If Anubis already ascended to higher plane of existence, why the hell would he still try to dominate in the lower planes ? It would be like an adult trying to assert dominance in a playground for little children, sure he can do it but it would have been rather pointless and embarrassing when other ascended hear about it. Plus some ascended may even confront him (which one did) for its like how adults nearby would not allow children to be bullied by a grown ass man.
The only system Lord to have survived was Zipacna. We only see him in the series a couple of times, yet, he fades into obscurity after Skara is freed from a Goa'uld implanted by Apophis.
Ba'al was charismatic as hell, but Apophis really raised hell during his run.
With the Goa'uld gone the Lucian Alliance takes over.
damn that voice is too nice to narrate this stuff.
Baal actor would have made a great Mr Sinister
At the beginning, you mention one of the first Goa'uld is named Apep, who is later killed. Later on, you mention a recent Goa'uld named Apophis. There must be an error here. Apep must not have been killed, because Apep and Apophis are the same ancient human god -- Apep is the Egyptian name while Apophis is the Greek name.
apep was the name used for an unas goa'uld unique to a licenced TTRPG series for SG-1. The folks on the wiki decided to include that info to fill gaps.
Jaffa, CREE!
It's a mistake that it wasn't mentioned that the Goauld also collapsed religiously during the repilcator invasion...
Don't think I have a favorite. However Ba'al had some fun moments and IMO anubis was something else
Sweet 👍
I wish sokar was around for another season or 2. Sokar vs anubis...
Goa'uld would have been eventually wiped out anyway, if they had beaten the Tokra and Earthlings. The same hubris that got the Asgardians in trouble, would have resulted in the Replicators wiping out the Goa'uld.
The supreme system lord ra will always be my favorite goa'uld ☆
Wish they would have went to more in depth on the helmets of the Jafar besides intimidation what else were they good for they looked way too cumbersome to be anything but comical