Seriously. There were a few that made the game bearable. Not that the first game was bad, but like the faster walk speed and inventory stacking really made the game so much more enjoyable for me
It won't be, at least hit character wise as the animations and models will be much more challenging to make, but I bet there'll be tins of item and mechanic mods
Nice beginner guide but if I may: 2:33 In the "desperate few" you are spending or refilling the "flame" not the "hope". Flame value is what determine if it's you or the enemies who get advantages in a fight. As you said at 13:34 Hope is the experience points to level-up your profile between runs to unlock characters and new items. Hope can be earned just by going as far as possible or with special biome mission. One more tips: Prioritize the level-up of the 5th skill of the plague doctor in the first Inn, it helps managing the stress level of your team, hence their relationhip, and is a must-have for the first few runs.
Flame is the representation of hope, btw. Flame cannot fade because hope will die with it. it's literally said on the start of the game. When it comes to your profile, hope is the equivalent of ex basically, nothing more.
There are a bit more precision to give about the relationship system and it's many interractions : - each decision at a stop can increase or decrease the relationship of the chosen character. It's quite significant. - Inn items, you said it. - Hope/torch : the lower the torch, the higher the chance of negative reaction instead of positive. - Listing all combat action succeptible to trigger a change. The most frequent one being a skill that target an ally (man-at-arms protection can increase several point by triggering several time). Though it does also trigger the negatives chances when under heavy stress + low light. - You can check the current relations progress in the character sheet. - There are sometimes minor malus to good relation, and bonus to bad relation. Most frequent one being a +1 stress to someone when he sees a positive ally get hit (Lover or codependant). There is the opposite with the hatred that reduce stress by 1. Sometimes it wrecks you because of a lack of stress management intead of being a good thing :/. - There are rare traits or coach items to trigger more/less bad/good relations. I think that's most of it. Comments will correct me.
Question, so on skills like Noxious blast, it doesn't say the % it has to apply the effect, so is it assumed to be 100% all the time? Like if an enemy has a 30% chance to resist, I'll ONLY ever have a 70% to apply the effect? Because in DD1, you can obviously increase the base of such a skill well past 100%, especially with trinkets.
It’s $12 on the epic store. That’s a steal considering how much content will most likely be added over time. I can understand people wanting to wait until the full release though.
You definitely do not. The games stand apart, but the worlds are intertwined in a sense. There are small elements that carry over but nothing that would make me say you need to play the first game fully to enjoy DD2
You don’t need to play the first game but you should cause it’s amazing and very different from the sequel. Plus it’s more complete at the moment, DD2 is significantly easier though and takes less time to beat so it’s up to you.
I think there will be a lot more characters by the end of early access and beyond. I’m really hoping for new characters as opposed to returning ones, but I wouldn’t be upset to see houndmaster arbalest or vestal return as right now PD is the only character who really fits in the 4th rank.
Mostly just doing well on the relationships and predicting the nature of the final boss correctly enough (or by looking up a guide, if that's your thing). I went into the boss with wrong gear and skills and almost got bootyblasted. Nobody died, but everybody were under 25% health close to tipping.
Almost impossible to beat the game on the first go? Nah, it's easy(-ish?): cheese the relationships to the max and create an unstoppable conga line of polyamory. At first it can be pretty hard, as even on neutral your four little turdnuggets want nothing more than to sabotage each other. But keep the stress low and find try to get the friendly at least to start. No spoilers, but the last boss is still almost unfairly strong and needs foreknowledge and the right preparation so it doesn't just push your shit in. It straight at the end of the road, you'll probably know when you're about to face it,you definitely want to prepare everything you can before initiating the fight.
Yeah, Beautiful game. Immediately love the look. But calling it an improvement that they took away gear, and allow you to only equip two trinkets and a single upgrade via the mastery system is definitely not something I'd be quick to say. I really thought they would go deeper, not more shallow with customization. I'll be there to support it the whole way, but man i hope they get busy in Early Access. Also, my characters constantly talking beforte every single turn makes me want to put 5 minutes into the game and quit each time. Combat is slooooooow.
Eh they may add more later in development. But wanting to quit after five mins? Bruh I’m trying to figure out how to clear my schedule😂What game are you playing?
@@theworld6710 I should definitely say five minutes at a time. I've put some hours into it, to be sure. It's beautiful. But once my characters start to bicker, combat is just not fun. It's not Darkest Dungeon 2 at that moment, feverishly managing despair and barely staying afloat, it's an episode of Maury.
@@iw5162 prioritize having very low stress and your heros will stay mostly positive. Using the PD stress relief is essential, upgrade the spell on the first run. Also bolster from MAA is important. On my run we get almost all maxed out relationship status and the result is a rather easy run.
I must admit, while I'm happy to see this sequel, I am torn heavily. I don't know how well the art style favors 3d models, and feel it may of been adopted cause its easier. The whole system and such with the cart and all? That is fine. I just wonder if the Darkest Dungeon is loosing its...well, dark.
Ive played the game . and the relationship thing is so annoying..... when everyone has a problem with someone. im so annoyed having to watch the blue relation ship thing every 10 secconds...
Thanks for this video. Now i know that this game is not for me, as i hate roguelites with a passion and starting the same shit over and over is like antithesis of fun. DD1 was also quite boring after few hours, as it required a lot of grind to level characters up. Seems like this studio has a great talent of creating awesome looking and atmospheric games, but containing annoying, grindy and tiresome gameplay. Not for me.
Unfortunately, DD2 is garbage... Devs gone too far from original game elements that we love. If they take the first game and apply the new graphic engine, it would be glorious, but they fail miserable... It is like Diablo 3 case...
@@maslinichh Not really. I am not saying literally. The concept is continue the same structure of the first game and applie inovations like new graphic engine and mechanics
I like some changes, and I think artstyle is pretty cool, the "2.5D", but it needs balancing. There are way, way too many thing that negatively impacts your heroes and party and there's really no way to manage it like you could in first game. No ability to camp and refresh HP and stress like you could in first game (in mid run). Limited amount of items that can be carried, but you can't use most of them while traveling, which results in bunch of items needing to be discarded. I had one run where my party was relatively ok, then some random event happens and two of them have meltdown and lose all of their HP to like 2-3hp left, and this was one node right before stage boss fight. So of course, I get random ambush, followed by lair fight. I somehow survive that, but nope, there's still one more ambush fight right before boss. Oh and you know how happens to be that? The space alien thing from first game. It's way, way too OP for such early game. Sure, you could fight it in DD1 as well very early, however there you actually had to trigger that encounter, while here it just happen randomly like basic ambush. Game balance is way too broken right now. It's fun when game is challenging, but not when they just throw random shit at you like this and call it difficulty.
I feel like it's a downgrade in both gameplay and art style. I'm especially annoyed at the change to 3D. There's just something about indie 3D that never quite looks right. DD2 isn't as bad as Risk of Rain 2, but still, it just feels empty (travelling down a road looks so bad). Actually travelling down each road seems like a chore that'll serve no major purpsoe other than slowing you down. There's a reason games like Slay the Spire just immediately get you to the destination you picked on the map. Micromanaging multiple teams was so good in the first game, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why they would get rid of such a great feature.
I agree. Obviously the art and presentation and everything is amazing but the pointless carriage sections just don’t make sense to me. I wish their time and resources had gone into something else. The hallways in the original weren’t anything special, but there was a lot to manage during them and i think it added another element of depth to the game. This seems to lack that. I didn’t want a copy-pasted version of the original game or anything, but it’s systems and gameplay loop were so good that I can’t comprehend why they would change the core experience so drastically. Not having The Hamlet/a hub town is a baffling decision considering so much of DD1 revolved so heavily around it. It was literally half the game. I thought the sequel would double down on that and make it feel like more of a living, breathing town with even more resources to manage (like imagine it having a shop system like Moonlighter/Recettear or relationships to manage between townspeople like Stardew Valley or one-time game changing decisions of some kind). I don’t know. I’m going to wait and see how it changes between now and launch but as of right now it seems like an inferior experience to the original in many ways. I’m salty about the Epic Games Store exclusivity so I’m probably being a little needlessly harsh on it, and I’m sure the game is a ton of fun as is, but it kinda seems like it could have just been an original IP instead of using the Darkest Dungeon name. It seems like an almost entirely different experience than the original minus the returning characters.
You press W instead of D. It's not much different from the original walking mechanic in that respect. I'm sure curios will be added later, or some other wagon mechanic. That change to the party system is the only part I feel weird about, but I'm just glad it'll be less grindy.
@Legacy Gaming is English a second language to you? Mountain is not pronounced "Mao-en". It's pronounced "mount taen" . Same goes for the word Important. STOP IGNORING THE F***ING T. You're in the 21st Century. This isn't the stone age - don't talk like a peasant.
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i watched some other reviews, but this one is much better. explaining each sections very well, you truly understood the game
Let’s hope the modding community is just as big as the first game
Seriously. There were a few that made the game bearable. Not that the first game was bad, but like the faster walk speed and inventory stacking really made the game so much more enjoyable for me
It won't be, at least hit character wise as the animations and models will be much more challenging to make, but I bet there'll be tins of item and mechanic mods
Added, let's wish, hope and pray that there's FAR less weebs modding it.
@@fortheloveofking what? You don't want 800 anime girl skins?
@@jakegordon4204 No. I want the people who make them to have a catastrophic CPU meltdown. And blindness, maybe some blindness.
Nice beginner guide but if I may:
2:33 In the "desperate few" you are spending or refilling the "flame" not the "hope". Flame value is what determine if it's you or the enemies who get advantages in a fight. As you said at 13:34 Hope is the experience points to level-up your profile between runs to unlock characters and new items. Hope can be earned just by going as far as possible or with special biome mission.
One more tips: Prioritize the level-up of the 5th skill of the plague doctor in the first Inn, it helps managing the stress level of your team, hence their relationhip, and is a must-have for the first few runs.
Game journalism LuL
Flame is the representation of hope, btw. Flame cannot fade because hope will die with it. it's literally said on the start of the game. When it comes to your profile, hope is the equivalent of ex basically, nothing more.
Christ man this game has a phenomenal presentation 👌 one of the best and original looking game I have seen!
I love that the hoarder is the caretaker for the first games estate. I laughed thinking about him creeping out of there with a huge bag of loot.
I love that little detail too!
I wouldn't be surprised if the former Caretaker robbed the estate blind.
Can't wait for this, take all the time you need red hook and can't wait for it to come to consoles.
Says "I can't wait," while also saying "I'll wait," while ALSO saying "I can't wait." 🤔🤔🤔
I'm just teasing ya, fyi. I know the feeling.
im completely new to this franchise and this video did a wonderful job explaining the mechanics. Thanks for that!
Those Death's Door animation are real nice.
There are a bit more precision to give about the relationship system and it's many interractions :
- each decision at a stop can increase or decrease the relationship of the chosen character. It's quite significant.
- Inn items, you said it.
- Hope/torch : the lower the torch, the higher the chance of negative reaction instead of positive.
- Listing all combat action succeptible to trigger a change. The most frequent one being a skill that target an ally (man-at-arms protection can increase several point by triggering several time). Though it does also trigger the negatives chances when under heavy stress + low light.
- You can check the current relations progress in the character sheet.
- There are sometimes minor malus to good relation, and bonus to bad relation. Most frequent one being a +1 stress to someone when he sees a positive ally get hit (Lover or codependant). There is the opposite with the hatred that reduce stress by 1. Sometimes it wrecks you because of a lack of stress management intead of being a good thing :/.
- There are rare traits or coach items to trigger more/less bad/good relations.
I think that's most of it. Comments will correct me.
Great guide! Thanks for the pre release info! I can’t wait to get my hands on it
Glad it was helpful!
3:00 It is not Hope, it’s flame, hope is the point you awardees at end of each run to increase your profile level.
Yes, but the narrator has some lines where he talks about losing the flame of hope so I wanted to make sure everyone was on the same page
rocking content yo!
Great video! i was thrown off watching some people playing but your video was very in depth and im ready to die over and over and over and....
thank you for your video. i can't wait to play
We need a Wayne June Voice synthesizer for the modding community.
Some people seem to have found a good substitute : ua-cam.com/video/ZhmeyN_hIlE/v-deo.html
Question, so on skills like Noxious blast, it doesn't say the % it has to apply the effect, so is it assumed to be 100% all the time? Like if an enemy has a 30% chance to resist, I'll ONLY ever have a 70% to apply the effect? Because in DD1, you can obviously increase the base of such a skill well past 100%, especially with trinkets.
i like it how they added the relationship system, to avoid us from just using our favorite hero in the team.
How so?
@@qwormuli77 if you tend to use your fave hero, others would get jealous
@@awepsalmgamin It doesn't work like that
@@kojk2545 i mean if he is only the one you do the attack more often or do the last hit
Say “mountain” again - please!🤣
mow-tan
@@LegacyGamingUS thank you, good sir!
Definetly going to get it next year
I have no clue how to recruit and I barely play with 2 characters it's insane
Looks like another game I'll enjoy
i hope they bring back the musketeer back and shield breaker
I think we’re going to see a bunch of new heroes next. That’s my guess
I'm the only one who wants the Abomination back
Ive been wondering if the game is worth getting/playing now in its ealry access format? Im definitely going to get it at full release.
It’s $12 on the epic store. That’s a steal considering how much content will most likely be added over time. I can understand people wanting to wait until the full release though.
@@LegacyGamingUS thanks for reply! It says its 29.99$ on the epic store when I search it.
They did my boy Reynauld dirty.
He’s coming, I’m confident
I fear that he might have gone the way of the Antiquarian...
Do i need to play DD1 before DD2? Is there a story continuation? I am new to this franchise.
You definitely do not. The games stand apart, but the worlds are intertwined in a sense. There are small elements that carry over but nothing that would make me say you need to play the first game fully to enjoy DD2
You don’t need to play the first game but you should cause it’s amazing and very different from the sequel. Plus it’s more complete at the moment, DD2 is significantly easier though and takes less time to beat so it’s up to you.
You don't really need to, but I suggest you do, because DD1 was awesome and gameplay was addictive.
Will it have an easy mode? Loved asthetic and world of first but i rage quit and had no inclination to go back
No,there won’t be.
@@vipersniperpiper6093 oh well, not for me. Thanks!
@@jamespaul6315 Games in general can’t be for everyone. There are some that will always be for specific people.
Weird there was an easy mode for the first game
@@rob5541 It’s not really an easy mode,all it does is it reduces the amount of grinding to need to do to go against the darkest dungeon.
The game seems to be mixture of Slay the Spire and Darkest Dungeon 1. Hope everything will be good.
Once more into the fray of agony now with discord or harmony.
I'm just crossing my fingers for additional characters down the road. They cut like half the roster LoL
It's actually one hero more than there were in DD1 at the start of the pre-release.
I think there will be a lot more characters by the end of early access and beyond. I’m really hoping for new characters as opposed to returning ones, but I wouldn’t be upset to see houndmaster arbalest or vestal return as right now PD is the only character who really fits in the 4th rank.
Tho I do have a question will it be released on Xbox? Like the first game
What's a mowan?
I can’t wait for console release I’ll probably never stop playing
Does anyone know why my battle formation continues to be flipped around at every encounter for, seemingly, no reason??
Could be a quirk, I’m not sure though
is it harder than the 1st game? I loved DD1 but it was too hard imo.
Day 2 Guide on beta = Ultimate
We’ve been playing it for a little bit now 😜
mountain
[ moun-tn ]
EDIT: important
[ im-pawr-tnt ]
I realize I say words wrong. It’s not like I don’t know how to say them right…
@@LegacyGamingUS I'm just poking, great vid!
A year?! Wow guess I could wait a year for the steam release…
That’s a normal exclusivity period. It sucks, but that’s how it goes sometimes
Everyone keeps saying don't expect to beat the mountain on your first try, but I pulled it off. Am I just like super lucky or something?
Mostly just doing well on the relationships and predicting the nature of the final boss correctly enough (or by looking up a guide, if that's your thing). I went into the boss with wrong gear and skills and almost got bootyblasted. Nobody died, but everybody were under 25% health close to tipping.
Almost impossible to beat the game on the first go? Nah, it's easy(-ish?): cheese the relationships to the max and create an unstoppable conga line of polyamory. At first it can be pretty hard, as even on neutral your four little turdnuggets want nothing more than to sabotage each other. But keep the stress low and find try to get the friendly at least to start. No spoilers, but the last boss is still almost unfairly strong and needs foreknowledge and the right preparation so it doesn't just push your shit in. It straight at the end of the road, you'll probably know when you're about to face it,you definitely want to prepare everything you can before initiating the fight.
How do you mute the game?
Yeah, Beautiful game. Immediately love the look. But calling it an improvement that they took away gear, and allow you to only equip two trinkets and a single upgrade via the mastery system is definitely not something I'd be quick to say.
I really thought they would go deeper, not more shallow with customization. I'll be there to support it the whole way, but man i hope they get busy in Early Access.
Also, my characters constantly talking beforte every single turn makes me want to put 5 minutes into the game and quit each time. Combat is slooooooow.
Eh they may add more later in development. But wanting to quit after five mins? Bruh I’m trying to figure out how to clear my schedule😂What game are you playing?
@@theworld6710 I should definitely say five minutes at a time. I've put some hours into it, to be sure. It's beautiful. But once my characters start to bicker, combat is just not fun. It's not Darkest Dungeon 2 at that moment, feverishly managing despair and barely staying afloat, it's an episode of Maury.
@@iw5162 prioritize having very low stress and your heros will stay mostly positive. Using the PD stress relief is essential, upgrade the spell on the first run. Also bolster from MAA is important. On my run we get almost all maxed out relationship status and the result is a rather easy run.
relationship sucks coz it seems pretty random
All they had to do is improve upon the magnificent foundation that was already there. Why destroy the legacy like this?
mounTTTain
I must admit, while I'm happy to see this sequel, I am torn heavily.
I don't know how well the art style favors 3d models, and feel it may of been adopted cause its easier. The whole system and such with the cart and all? That is fine. I just wonder if the Darkest Dungeon is loosing its...well, dark.
Too bad i am too poor to buy it on release ;c
Where's Reynauld?
Dont forget this is early access. A bunch of areas and characters are still on the way over the next year or so.
Not in the game.
My boy got booted. I just hope that they add our favourite meatshield as a hero, instead of as a boss.
Ive played the game . and the relationship thing is so annoying..... when everyone has a problem with someone. im so annoyed having to watch the blue relation ship thing every 10 secconds...
It's definitely overtuned atm, but give them a few weeks. We're just a few days out from early access, these things will be fixed.
Because you are not managing stress correctly 🤔
🤘
Thanks for this video. Now i know that this game is not for me, as i hate roguelites with a passion and starting the same shit over and over is like antithesis of fun.
DD1 was also quite boring after few hours, as it required a lot of grind to level characters up.
Seems like this studio has a great talent of creating awesome looking and atmospheric games, but containing annoying, grindy and tiresome gameplay. Not for me.
I dont like the changes.....
I hate that I have to wait until the Epic Games exclusivity ends to play this. That’s probably gonna be like 2023 😕
During our interview with Chris Bourassa (Creative Director) he said early access would only last a year.
you are mispronouncing mountain a lot
I have trouble saying the word
Unfortunately, DD2 is garbage... Devs gone too far from original game elements that we love. If they take the first game and apply the new graphic engine, it would be glorious, but they fail miserable... It is like Diablo 3 case...
sadly agree, this is nothing like DD1 which I wanted..
In this case, the game would be no different from the first, then everyone on the contrary believed that this is just a remaster of the first game
@@maslinichh Not really. I am not saying literally. The concept is continue the same structure of the first game and applie inovations like new graphic engine and mechanics
@@rafaelmoisesbezerradasilva7271 hell, I misunderstood your words because I clumsy translated them. Then I apologize.
I like some changes, and I think artstyle is pretty cool, the "2.5D", but it needs balancing. There are way, way too many thing that negatively impacts your heroes and party and there's really no way to manage it like you could in first game. No ability to camp and refresh HP and stress like you could in first game (in mid run). Limited amount of items that can be carried, but you can't use most of them while traveling, which results in bunch of items needing to be discarded.
I had one run where my party was relatively ok, then some random event happens and two of them have meltdown and lose all of their HP to like 2-3hp left, and this was one node right before stage boss fight. So of course, I get random ambush, followed by lair fight. I somehow survive that, but nope, there's still one more ambush fight right before boss. Oh and you know how happens to be that? The space alien thing from first game. It's way, way too OP for such early game. Sure, you could fight it in DD1 as well very early, however there you actually had to trigger that encounter, while here it just happen randomly like basic ambush.
Game balance is way too broken right now. It's fun when game is challenging, but not when they just throw random shit at you like this and call it difficulty.
First😁
Yeah, lack of Crusader class has made me not buy the game. I'll just wait until it becomes a mod on Steam and buy it then.
I'm pretty sure he's coming, just need to be patient
I feel like it's a downgrade in both gameplay and art style. I'm especially annoyed at the change to 3D. There's just something about indie 3D that never quite looks right. DD2 isn't as bad as Risk of Rain 2, but still, it just feels empty (travelling down a road looks so bad). Actually travelling down each road seems like a chore that'll serve no major purpsoe other than slowing you down. There's a reason games like Slay the Spire just immediately get you to the destination you picked on the map. Micromanaging multiple teams was so good in the first game, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why they would get rid of such a great feature.
I agree. Obviously the art and presentation and everything is amazing but the pointless carriage sections just don’t make sense to me. I wish their time and resources had gone into something else. The hallways in the original weren’t anything special, but there was a lot to manage during them and i think it added another element of depth to the game. This seems to lack that. I didn’t want a copy-pasted version of the original game or anything, but it’s systems and gameplay loop were so good that I can’t comprehend why they would change the core experience so drastically. Not having The Hamlet/a hub town is a baffling decision considering so much of DD1 revolved so heavily around it. It was literally half the game. I thought the sequel would double down on that and make it feel like more of a living, breathing town with even more resources to manage (like imagine it having a shop system like Moonlighter/Recettear or relationships to manage between townspeople like Stardew Valley or one-time game changing decisions of some kind).
I don’t know. I’m going to wait and see how it changes between now and launch but as of right now it seems like an inferior experience to the original in many ways. I’m salty about the Epic Games Store exclusivity so I’m probably being a little needlessly harsh on it, and I’m sure the game is a ton of fun as is, but it kinda seems like it could have just been an original IP instead of using the Darkest Dungeon name. It seems like an almost entirely different experience than the original minus the returning characters.
You press W instead of D. It's not much different from the original walking mechanic in that respect. I'm sure curios will be added later, or some other wagon mechanic.
That change to the party system is the only part I feel weird about, but I'm just glad it'll be less grindy.
@Legacy Gaming is English a second language to you? Mountain is not pronounced "Mao-en". It's pronounced "mount taen" . Same goes for the word Important. STOP IGNORING THE F***ING T. You're in the 21st Century. This isn't the stone age - don't talk like a peasant.