Slope Soaring Tutorial for Beginners & Experts
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- This video is a sort of tutorial for people interested in sloping / Slope soaring of RC planes. The plane I am using today is the ASW-28 2.6M glider from Hobbyking.com. Location is Karitane, near Dunedin, New Zealand. This is a perfect location on a northerly wind, because smooth air off the ocean hits the high cliffs providing ample uplift and perfect, turbulence free gliding. It is a beautiful location and a pleasure to visit.
The first time I sloped a sailplane was a day I’ll never forget. It scratched a lifetime itch I didn’t know I had.. It fulfilled all of my childhood conceptions of soaring an airplane. Your video is perfect, not intimidating, explains the basics. I’m in central California in a place called Seacliff so to not take advantage of all that free and clean ocean breeze would be silly. I used to walk my 3 toddlers to the beach, launch the plane and soar for hours while picnicking.
Fun video but please don't say the plane loses airspeed in a downwind turn. Unfortunately the downwind turn myth continues to be repeated all the time. Airspeed stays the same regardless of upwind, crosswind or downwing.. Only groundpseed changes
THANK YOU PAUL I HAVE BEEN WATCHING AND ENJOYING YOUR VIDEOS FOR ABOUT A YEAR. YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT TEACHING AND EXPLAINING THINGS I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT! I STARTED FLYING RC ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND YOU HAVE BEEN VERY ENCOURAGING. RIGHT NOW I AM FLYING AN EXCALIBUR, PROBABLY MY FAVORITE PLANE BECAUSE I HAVE HAD THE MOST SUCCESS WITH IT. I FLY A PULSE 15E, TIMBER, ZAZZY, NEPTUNE AND A CARBON Z CUB. I HAVE ABOUT 1 HOUR ON THE CZC AND IT IS A SUPER FLYER I REALLY LIKE IT. I ALSO FLY AN ASW-28 AND REALLY LIKE IT TOO. THIS SUMMER I AM HOPING TO FLY THE TIMBER AND CZC ON THE WATER. HERE IN WISCONSIN, USA, WE ARE ABUNDANTLY BLESSED WITH LOTS OF WATER. WILL BE WATCHING YOU PAUL, THANKS John
An excellent slope soaring tutorial. Nice location. I have done most of my slope soaring over the water.
Flying gliders in locations like this one makes it look so cool. Reminds me of Highway 1 in Big Sur California.
Good insight advise, cheers and good winds
This was a thrilling and well described introduction for me into slope soaring. Thanks for your efforts!
Jim
Great. Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow, great flying and a lot of tips! Thanks! The one about flying with the with and NOSE Down was important for me.
1hr and a quarter... that´s a lot. Now I understand why laying on the ground xD
Flying near the ground was a bit scary...
I have the same ASW28 but haven´t tested her on a slope yet.
great tutorial.im into power flying as well as slope soaring. The slope soaring is just cool.
0:30 Even "experts" can always learn new things.
Great tutorial Paul. You even coordinated your shirt for the occasion.
just read your comments regarding the ailerons and im definitely extending mine now as they are so anemic, so thanks for the idea and great vid
Amazing location, one day I will fly my RC gliders in New Zealand...
Wow, what a slope. I am jealous!
Thanks, nice spot. Gonna buy the asw definitely after seeing your video.
Kudos to you, sir. You're a great RC pilot, and a very nice man, too. Thanks for this vid.
Here at my local club in the UK the HK Phoenix 2000 is a very popular plane for sloping and flat field flying. Brilliant fun especially with flaps enabled.
Sounds good. I think it is similar in specs to the ASW-28.
Enjoyed your video. Here is something for you to try. Add FPV to your glider. 20 dollar cam and 3.7v battery or go for a better FPV system with mushroom antenna and fly for a kilometer up and down the coast line or thermal over the land as well but this time flying out of normal sight, and as if you are inside the glider, feeling for the thermals. A whole new experience in glider flying if you have never tried it. Happy Flying!
Thanks for your comments. Sounds interesting. I am actually already looking into it - i mean the feasibility of long range fpv with a glider. I have an even bigger one which might be a good candidate for fpv flying.
nice video and pretty crazy spot! we are lucky here to have Torrey Pines Glider Port with rugs and such. thanks for the post!
Yes. Torrey Pines is very famous - even i have heard of it! Here in New Zealand, especially around Dunedin where i live, there are many amazing cliffs and mountains suitable for slope soaring - but there is almost no one who is into it. I am yet to go flying with someone else in the air at the same time!
Paul Garbett Variety Channel you have it good. You’re not missing much. Torrey is very very crowded with pg traffic.
I slope soar in Blenheim. Heaps of fun and relaxing
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
THANKS for the TUT New Z-Man !!! from Billy-Bob in Georgia, USA.
Great flying video Paul looks lovely there can't wait for spring to arrive here in the uk so I can get out and do some flying regards from Simon
Great video. Beautiful spot there North Island. Just getting back into RC, electric gliders in Alaska.
Really enjoyed your video, doing much the same here in Oregon... Have an old vintage Hobie Hawk, 3 meter span, and T tail such as ASW-28-2.6M, although don't have your beautiful environment, which means someday have to get there... Cheers
It's just not fair you get to live in such a beautiful place. Close enuff to fly with Bruce ( XJET) cliffs for soaring.. blue-green water. I'm very jealous. We have a sea... Yet it's Brown unless you travel 40 to 60 miles out. We have wind but normally it only blows on the days your not needing it. And when it does it almost always a crosswind on the runway... We have a Beautiful State but it is huge and everything in the state is Over THERE>>>>>>>>>> miles from where you want to be.. ;lol (All PArody) but very nice video I must visit NewZealand one day
Well south island of new Zealand is all like that. No traffic. Desserted beaches. Clean water. I also Spearfish around below where this was filmed over the summer for fresh fish. Plenty of camp grounds if you want to do a tour.
Very nice tutorial. Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Cheers from Alexandra, some nice hills up here!
Thanks for the video, lots of useful information. I live in North Devon UK and have a similar coast to your coast. Often stood and watch the seagulls hanging above the cliffs, gently diving away, turning and what appears to be playing in the air; always been pretty envious. There is a guy not far from me cliff soaring and I've got the bug. Hoping to meet him soon to have a go at one of his gliders under a lot of supervision, then get one myself. Spoilt living by a cliffy seaside. Just subscribed to your channel and will be watching more videos. Hopefully I'll be joining those seagulls soon. Alan
Best of luck to you. You will find it very satisfying flying with the birds. Sometimes they will even form up on your wing if you are just gliding without the motor on. It is the best sort of flying in my opinion. It is also not that hard to make your own glider to begin with. For example, you can make a small light one without a motor so it is crashes its no drama. I am building one like this at the moment. Going to cost me about $10 for a 1m glider.
Kiwi slope power!
Bonito planador, lindo voo um equipamento perfeito para se descontrair.
Excellent Top landing!
Nice Hobby Mate! And thanks For Sharing!
Excellent location!
+Ben Willetts Yes it is beautiful there, especially when the wind is warm.
Thanks for the informative video, nicely done. Magnificent flying site!!
This one is coming.. ty for the tips...
Ty4sharing nice vid & nice flite
Camera girl.. nice job..
Hi always turn away from the slope. turning towards the slope will suck the glider into the slope and crash some weight on the CG helps the glider to penetrate or fly better (heaver model) shame we done have ballast in the wings no more ( wing tubes on the CG for Ballast weight) glider Builder for nearly 30 years .
very nice video
Very nice vid' Paul really enjoyed the demonstration, I'm just getting into Fixed Wing and while more interested in the FPV it will be great to have a crack at slope soaring :)
+Ken Oath Good luck with you FPV. Slope soaring can be really enjoyable to get into - mostly because you can fly for an unlimited time just sailing on the wind. But it is also very good for when it is too windy for other types of flying - especially if you have a big, heavy sailplane. Spring time in Dunedin is very windy for about 3 months, and you are essentially grounded unless you can fly in strong winds.essentially Have fun.
Very good tutorial - Thanks.
And So Beautiful👍
Totally awesome man. Just getting into it.
Very nicely done! Thanks for taking the time to make this vid:-)
Paul what happened to you? I really enjoyed your soaring videos
Hi. I am sorry i haven't done more videos. I've had a few in the works but i guess i have lost the passion for the sport, i think because i was always doing it by myself and it wasn't fun for me anymore. I even have a 3.2m jet glider i made from scratch and never flew, so that gives you an idea of how low my enthusiasm has gotten. I am intending on doing more flying and videos over the winter. I'm also working on a scratchbuilt Harrier.
Paul Garbett Variety Channel I know how you feel as I always fly alone but I have the company of Paragliders. Id be interested to see your new projects soon in video form.
@@Trouttaranaki Thank you for the support. I will do my best to get some more videos out in the coming months.
Great lesson. Thank you.
Thanks for the tips!
Hi Paul,
It has been a while since we talked.
What did you use to make your extensions on your elevator and ailerons?
Hope all is well with you over there in a land far away
Daniel
USA
Just foam board. It is quite expensive over here. Like $10 a sheet. We really are spoilt for choices of where you can slope soar here. I was at a cliff recently with this big glider, and at one point it just kept going up and i couldn't fly down faster than the wind was pushing it up. I didn't want to go too fast because it might rip the wings off. And every time it came down it speed up so much that it ballooned up again. It was getting about 150m above me and i actually thought i might loose it to the heavens. So i just had to dive straight down at hundreds of km per hour speed and risk it all. Finally i got it out over the ocean and levelled off very slowly to not exceed the G limit and i recovered. there were birds taking the thermal hundreds of meters up into the clouds.
That experience is going to follow you for a while.
Experience and knowledge of the elements are what saved you.
Imagine if you had it on film!@@PaulGarbettNZ
Hi Paul, did you laminate the wings? I see you have added extra to the control surfaces too.
Great video
What is your thought on the ASW 28 vs Phoenix 2400?
I really like the ASW and it was great that you put extensions on the ailerons and elevator, I think that helps a lot because it does not have much control surface
I just subscribed and am looking forward to many more of your videos
Daniel
Did you make a. Video about the mods to your asw 28? Looks like you put a film on the wing and made bigger control surfaces. I saw the air brake video.
Hi I have the same glider and i was wondering what modification you did on the wings?😊
Just taped on some foam-board as an extension for the ailerons. You could use cardboard or something similar. Gives the glider a bit more control. This one is a bit unresponsive until going fast.
@@PaulGarbettNZ thanks mate, always good to get some feedback from pilot's with the same model. Keep flying mate 👍
Great clip,thanks.It's a shame how the wind-noise on the mic can degrade an otherwise excellent video.Keep up the nice work.
Just getting into R.C. soaring after years of free-flighting. ;)
--- thanks for a fine demo. and your instruction. - very helpful
.....are there plans available for that glider? - pretty sweet machine eh?
Hobby King sell the for I think , about 137 dollars
try slope soar in oamaru new Zealand near the harbour at the lookout point
+Carl Alegado Thanks for the tip!
Hi. Yes it is a great spot there at Oamaru. Check out my video of slope soaring there: ua-cam.com/video/i_Z7gdu_aco/v-deo.html
Can you slope sour without ailerons?
Yes. No problems sloping on a 3-channel using just the rudder. You are limited of course in the maneuvers you can perform.
Would the St Model Arcus M be fine as well? About 1.2kg?
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Great video! Did you make any modifications to your Hobby King ASW-28? Can you recommend slope soaring sites close to Christchurch?
Dave Fedors , sites in chc: Taylors mistake, go past the para gliders and look for the road cone on the pole, fly from the road side. Above Victoria (dog) park, top of the knob above the pine tree, if you get to the playground you have gone too far. John Britten reserve. Sugarloaf. Shane Kennigton at rcflight does Wednesday night slope soaring once daylight saving starts, check out his fb page.
Hi there, did you strengthen the carbon spar bar? and i see it looks like you incresed the size of the ailerons and elevator as well?? otherwise nice video.
Yes that's right, the ailerons and elevator need to be expanded because most of the time you are gliding fairly slowly and need more control. Haven't touched the spar though. You do get quite a lot of flex if you pull up tightly.
Hi ya Paul , great video ! I have just purchased a ASW28 from HK and noticed that your plane has extended areas on the control surfaces ? Did the plane come like this or have you made changes because you find the stock set up wasn't performing ? I have been sloping with my 2 meter Sky Eye and a Wicked wing XL and am looking forward to getting the ASW28
+mikeyfrompiha Yes its a brilliant performer. Amazing glider especially in the strong wind. I recommend the 1500mah 4s battery. Its perfect. 3 cell just doesn't have enough power i think. I've added some extensions to the ailerons and elevator because they weren't giving enough response.
g'day Paul, tell me is it feasible to slope soar with only rudder/ elevator? My gliders only have those two responses,I would probably fly off the cliffs at raglan.. cheers Baz
Yes that would be fine. I'm assuming that you have it setup on 3 channels and there is plenty of dihedral to keep it level. Generally you want to keep the plane level for soaring to maximise lift, so rudder and elevator will do fine.
Good glider
Flies so beautiful. What glider building plan do you suggest for a beginner? I am a skilled builder but have never flight a RC Glider.
So the plane should fly calm and safe but should not be expensive to build. i think as a beginner i will do chrash often… ;-)
Hi. Just start with something small and light winds and work up. Maybe just order in a glider with motor which is less than 1meter. Use that till you get the hand of it. If you are making it yourself have say 1m or less span and don't put much curve on the airfoil to keep speed up.
@@PaulGarbettNZ thank you for reply. I asked because I read that smaller model do not fly calm enough for a beginner. But I will give a try...
No smaller models are fine. The bigger ones are more stable and turn more slowly, and so are very predictable in the air, but do a lot more damage when they land. Learn on something small over a little slope on fair winds.
@@PaulGarbettNZ thank you for the advice!
Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
Thanks for some good tips in your video. I'm getting a Phoenix 1600 from Hobby King and I want to do some slope soaring with it. Not to be negative but I have to correct you, on an engine is an internal combustion power source and a motor is electric power source. I was a motorcycle mechanic for 20 years and it just bothers me when someone calls an electric motor an engine. No hard feeling Good Day to you.
Phoenix planes are horrible. Those blow moulded plastic fuselages have no place in RC. Only good for kids toys.
Most motorcycles are actually enginecycles.
Don't you mean that you were an enginecycle mechanic?
I like to go engine boating from differing fishing spots but when I get near and don't want to scare the fish I turn on the small electric driven prop and switch to motor boating.
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Hi Paul, great video, I would like to know where I can see the additions you placed in the wings, I think that actually give you more control.
Thank you
Hi. The additions are small strips of foam board (from stationary shop - used for scratch building) that I have taped onto the elevator and ailerons for more control. Make sure they are lined up straight. They just extend the surfaces and deflect more air. See this video about 3mins for the exact locations. You may as well do the whole aileron on this plane, as they are very ineffective.
I learned to fly only with slope soaring and thermals.
Hi, very nice video!
I want to start in slope soaring.
Do you recommend a beginners model?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards from Brazil northeast (plain of wind here!)
I learned how to fly an RC airplane with the Hobbyking BFG-1600. It's not a very efficient glider but it's nice, can't wait to try to fly it in a slope
@@matteotivan3414 I will take a look. Thanks for your time! Regards.
Wow how nice! Are you using the FS-T6 Tx with the standard r6b receiver in this video? Cheers and happy landings!
Yes. That's exactly what it is. Thanks for watching.
Ah that's what I thought as I heard the familiar beep in the background while transmitter was idle. Cool. I use the same radio/receiver combo to fly my small AXN powered glider (1290mm wingspan) but never did slope soaring. I think it's great fun though. You fly quite far out ay .. so you never had any range issues with the T6 ... it seems you trust it completely to fly your glider from that location. I never had range issues too (I am mentioning this as it seems that some people did have issues but probably due to broken or misconnected/badly placed antennas). I did flaperons on the rotary knob thanks to your video as well :-). I did change the stock Tx antenna with a 5dbi though, to enhance range, although I never had issues with the stock one. I have flown my AXN in 20mph winds ... it is challenging but so exciting. And on those windy days almost nobody dares to fly at my local club so it's more of a privilege hehhe. Sometimes I am a bit worried about losing the signal link when I fly a bit far out ... and I start thinking about getting a radio upgrade. But then again, why should I when I never had range issues? I also did ground range tests with T6/rb6 and had solid link up ta at least 250metres, a distance which should get more than that up in the air. Just one question, how do you set up your receiver antenna on your plane.. vertically or horizontally? Mine is attached horizontally and in line with the fuselage, and my Tx antenna pointed sideways parallel to the ground ( so also horizontal). I placed my rx antenna outside. Cheers and regards.
Yes, what I've done is taped the antenae into a vertical position inside the fuselage, and taped the receiver down also. I align the transmitter into the vertical position also, so they match. Never had any issues and I've flown it as high and far as I can see it, about 200m I guess. If you ever start losing control make sure that you are not pointing the antennae at the plane, as there is an area of low signal in that direction. Always have the antennae side on to the plane. I think you only need the receiver antanae on the outside if it is carbon fibre.
Yes, thanks for the tips for antenna placement. I was aware about the low signal area at the tip of the antenna. That's why I keep it horizontal and parallel with the radio, pointing sideways, that way it will never point at the plane, and I don't have to adjust it every time I fly, as movement will eventually wear out and snap the antenna. The less you touch it, the better.
thanks for that. Have something similar at home. ANDY
Muy bueno
I see that you added foam to your ailerons. Does it flies better in that way?
Just a bit more control that way. It increases the power of the ailerons for aerobatics etc.
Did you enlarged the control surfaces? Why? and how is the result?
Yes, I enlarged the ailerons and the elevator because these weren't giving enough response. Besides, when you are gliding you need lots of control because you are not going very fast most of the time. Elevator is perfect now, but ailerons are still not as good as they could be.
Paul Garbett Variety Channel
Good to know I am planing to buy this guy. Is the plastic body more durable then EPO , this one also has plastic wings right? I am between this one and Diamond 2500 EPO
Paul Garbett Variety Channel
you should upload more flying videos, it is always fun and inspiring to see others fly sessions and locations
+Multirotor Go The plastic is good yes. The wings are just foam though, which is fine and easy to repair. Get a 1500 4s for this plane - it is the perfect battery.
ok with stock motor and esc?
I tried this with my asw28. It couldn’t even stay stable.
Have you tried adjusting the centre of gravity? They prefer to be slightly nose heavy for slope soaring. Also, was there enough wind to keep it up in the air? Maybe the air was bumpy with turbulance?
It was a smooth windy day. The cog was slightly nose heavy but it wouldn’t slope. I tried putting down the flaps but it just made it slower.
Hmm. Sounds like you're doing the right thing then. Will it fly OK around the park etc? Do you have a different plane you can test for sloping? Maybe a smaller one till its sorted out.
It flys well at the park. Thanks anyway.
Ok. Good luck with it then.
So much wend. Very wendy endeed.
Hi Paul once again, lie your videos, another way to learn without any daunting dangerous cliffs for beginners is to fly on a windy day in a flat field and just use power to get to height and practice, what other models have you used for slope soaring?
first you need to have a lot of wind noice and then you need somebody in the background talking over you >_<
strongly suggest voice over
were do u live nice area
Dunedin, New Zealand. This was filmed up the coast at Karitane.
I'd FPV the hell outta that. seriously..
Flaps on a glider? Oh i see.
Mostly just used for landing in a small space. Can also be helpful in altering the glide characteristics. For example generate more / less lift.