WORST AK SHOTGUN - Chinese Saiga 12
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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Today we take the JTS-12 out to the range, and show you what this shotgun is all about. And why I hate it.
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My name is Brandon Herrera. I'm the owner and operator of The AK Guy Inc, a 07 Firearm Manufacturer based out of Fayetteville, NC. I also co-own Stark Media Group, and designed the rifle known as the AK-50.
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Ak daddy
Hrandon Bererra
#akgnotificationsquad
I’ve got a shitty screw-build I bought before I knew anything about AK’s if ya wanna borrow that and let me know just how big of a mistake I made
try out the sds lynx 12
'I would call this gun cancer, but cancer actually kills people.'
-Sun Tzu or something, I dunno
It would get you killed if you used it during a home invasion
@@user-fi2vc7ei8v Time time! My gun is jammed stop the home invasion for a sec would you? Lol
Lmao
*Gun Tzu
I’ll consider myself lucky that mine seems to work okay and the sights were zeroed fine. I’d love a higher quality AK shotty, or hell a proper AK rifle. I live in MD, our best post-2013 option in 7.62x39 is the VZ58. Which I like, but buying aftermarket parts is hell
Garbage that’s hardly good enough to shoot garbage….
... at garbage.
The trash is more expensive in raw materials than that cast hunk of shit is.
Glad I have a Vepr-12 (the best AK shotgun, Saiga's seethe).
@1 1 Idk where the 815 is lol
Thankfully, Mango White Claw is apparently worse than garbage. Shooting it improves it.
@@volk4523 the Fostech Origin-12 is the best AK shotgun
"Tries to chamber the round again after not firing"
*not enough social credits*
Underrated
very underrated!
After break in, it works well.
@Dr Disconect I ouned one, instead of running hundreds of rounds for break in, i worked the action instead. I have picture with 10 rounds in the air, 4 inches apart.
@Dr Disconect depends on the price i guess. any shotgun is better than no shotgun.
The JTS M12 AK requires 50-100 rounds for break in. It was a pain but once I got to 70 rounds the issues demonstrated in your video completely disappeared. The owners manual even mentions this break in period. I’ve put several hundred rounds through it and have not had a single issue.
I took mine apart and cleaned/oiled it really well before even firing a single round. Used some budget 1300 fps shells and never had issues. Even during the break in period
Break-in period? Firearms have those?
Any guns that require a break period are garbage. 70 shells, what a waste.
@@MiGujack3 well, it costs about 1/3rd as much so 70 rounds isn't that bad. It works absolutely fine for a range toy, or even something you could use to hunt if you really wanted to. Nobody expects a 250$ semi automatic shotgun to be sufficient for home defense lmao
Strangest thing for me. Right out of the box with zero problems. Accurate and never jammed. Almost no recoil either. Ive watched video after video about how garbage this gun is yet mine runs completely fine. Its like ive got an entirely different gun.
How did Brandon find a gallon of milk so easily?! My dad’s been out trying to get some for the last 15 years
Same except mine went for scratch offs 9 years agi
@@dwippy_person_6918 Mine left for cigs
Your dads were smart
Keep the faith one day he shall return.
Brandon took the milk from your dad, it'll be another 15 years before he'll return home.
"when you miss on the range or at the urinal, step closer" sun tzu
No replies for a good comment!!i need to fix this. I wonder if you're still active?
@@X_gang_demigod thanks!
I have a Saiga 12, a Vepr 12, and this JTS. Ive run about 1000 rounds through the JTS and it runs perfectly on Walmart Birdshot. Granted the quality is not as good as the Saiga or Vepr but its a solid shotgun for $350 bucks - Just make sure you use the correct gas settings and you're golden
The Saiga 12 is good. This Saiga 12 is not
I've got the JTS as well runs like a dream never misfired, or had any problem with the mags.
Exactly!!❤
@@snapsnap001 I like my JTS AR12.
@@kindsteel5 the Vepr is way better than Saiga. It's a little more reliable, has closed sight and can be loaded without holding a bolt with your hand.
But the original Russian Saiga is a pure gold in comparison with the Chinese one.
Just bought a JTS AK-12; I oiled the slide, cycled it manually about 50 times. Then I set the gas block on “3” and fired 60 BAT slugs without a single misfire, jam or FTF.
Can’t speak for the experience of others, but I really like mine so far.
It may have problems with low brass or light loads; I intend to shoot a couple more boxes of hot loads before I step down and test out some birdshot.
I just got this gun and the iron curtain customs mlock handgaurd. How is yours holding up?
That's because you: TOOK THE TIME TO READ THE MANUAL & CLEAN & OIL THE GUN, unlike the AK Guy.
I took mine down to check everything, turned it to 3 and it sent shells 15 feet up with no issues, I like AK guy but like everyone he is not always right.
Mine didn't like bird shot on gas setting 3. Shoots buck shot and slugs all day tho
How did it turn out with birdshot?
Brandon: "because hackers"
Me: eh
Brandon: "AND certain 3 letter agencies"
Me: AAAAAHHHH
A VPN won't stop the NSA. They're on another level entirely
@@setesh1294 Part of why I haven't bothered. Especially since the got caught.
Aka, “Hackers who ‘have the right’”
I always wondered: Why do we not trust certain alphabet bois and yet we blindly trust VPNs?
@@sebastianriz4703 three letter agencies are the government. VPNs are not.
I've finally lived to see the day Brandon calling an AK trash. Not even cursed krink got this epithet.
That is unfair to Papa Kalashnikov to call that an AK.
In fairness, cursed krink was salvageable.
@@anthonyhayes1267 The krink was a gem hidden behind a lack of skill. This is a whole different story.
@@SlavicCelery exactly
It wasn't the Krink's fault, it was an abuse victim! 😭
I reviewed this last summer. I shot super X buck noble sport buck and Fed low recoil buck with no issues. It did shoot straight and work right.
I seen other countless other vids on JTS M12AK seems to be a good shotgun, bought one myself ran hundreds of rounds FLAWLESS. Maybe you got a lemon or maybe you didn't set your gas tube to 3 when shooting light loads. Either way my shit runs 100% FLAWLESS. $399 I can dig it
Totally agree mine runs flawlessly only problem I have is cycling cheap Winchester bird shot
The cry’s of just as good can be heard loudly on this comment
@@YblonJR Love the boutique gun tards lol. Its like paying more for an Acura than a Honda. Same shit basically.
I watched another utube video where the guy cleaned out all the cosmoline in the gas tube and properly re lubricuted the chamber.
Seemed to stop the jam
279 $ on PSA . should I buy
I love that the internet has collectively agreed that low quality recorder sound bits let us know where the video is going.
Thanks for the preface on this. I'm dying laughing now 😂😂😂. RIP Africa
"The trigger is... present" had me dying
It would
@@Vorniforous But not on this gun.
Never had an issue with mine......adjust the gas for the intended rounds, after the recommended 25 mag load/high brass break in period. It's by far not to the standards one would expect from a Saiga.....but it's a $400 shotgun, what do you expect.
For it to work.
@@SG-ds8pr That's pretty much what I just said.... that it works 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ I followed what was suggested in the owners manual and I have zero issues. I'm sure they have had some lemons (everyone does) but I'm sure just as many have failed to follow directions....and then complained about an issue they created. Ran into that with Tristar Semi's as well, follow the break in and adjustment recommendations and it ran flawlessly.....don't and you have a rather expensive door stop.
i got mine for 299 and no problem s with it brake it in and its good to go
Saiga’s have break in issues too
@@moistmeatsweats747 where from? Psa?
I've had my JTS for almost 2 years and put about 500+ rounds of mostly 00 buck and slug. I have to say that I did some modification to the gun as I tried to improve the gas system with some polishing and deburring of the puck etc. Also, I've replace the forend with a heavily modified Magpul Zhukov and the Ace adapter plate that was once available for the gun. Used a Tom Cole conversion choke tube to thread on a Saiga compatible brake and it shoots great. I am keeping an eye on the bolt for wear, but so far so good. Also I highly recommend CSSPECs mags that they make for this. Steel, feeds well and most importantly, securely locks into the gun.
The CSSPECS website does not carry any magazines for the JTS mk 12 AK shotgun. I checked their website and nothing. 😢
Thanks man. Just ordered two
If it was delance's idea to put in the recorder music, you should give him a raise, and or 1000 rounds of 7.62x39
Eh maybe like a mag or 2. Can’t exactly get the slavic stuff anymore
1000 rds of Military Grade Ammo, boy he could buy so much!
When metro’s version of currency actually becomes an option
@@TheOdst219 MILITARY GRADE? DO YOU WANT HIM TO BLOW UP!??? (military grade means worse possible)
@@MrFalloutforlife
No shit. We need some Metro 2033 memes now.
Shotguns have three main attributes and you get to choose two for your shotgun: cheap, reliable, and semi auto.
Extremely cheap option: single shots
@@jeremiahfyan but can't really fail
@@mr.mullet6881 pretty much yea
This shotgun chose cheap and reliable it's just not semi auto capable lol
@@jeremiahfyan even cheaper option : slamfire shotgun
I have it and it always jammed. It took a lot of filing and polishing of the bolt and carrier to get it to cycle well. There is another part of the shotgun where the shell ejects that needs to be be filed. There are other videos showing the locations that need modifications. My JTS now cycles both 5 and 10 round mags without a problem
I think you might have just gotten a bad one man, I’ve had a JTS M12AK for a little under a year and have put hundreds of shells through it with no issues and it’s one of my favorite shotguns I have
The only problems I have with the JTS is the weird mag loading that’s really awkward, it’s very front heavy and tires my arm if I hold it for too long, and the bolt carrier is a little weird.
Same. Mine is great. this review was BS.
Door stuck
Yeah I have never had that double feed he had, everything runs on mine 600 shells in on gas setting 3. I use "1" for 3 inch slugs or 3 inch 00 Buck, and "3" for pretty much everything else. Works damn amazing 300 buckaroos. Don't know why Brandon deleted my last post.
I feel like it's a anti-Foreign product review.
I’ve had mine for 3 years and the only problem Is feeding with certain production levels.
I’m not sure which is more disturbing, that rendition of “Africa” or the fact I recognized it within the first 2 seconds.
I know your pain😂😂
I wonder how much he paid Steven from RichRebuilds to play it?
The latter is definitely more disturbing.
The fact we don't live near each other. I'm sure you and me would be great buddies.
I laughed uncontrollably at the Africa rendition.
Us govt: bans Russian ammo
Brandon: fuck I guess we're shooting 12g today.
Made in China
@@gabrielpollman5133 just wait for the Водкаaaaa Ukrainian ammo that looks and shoots the same lmao
First, it's not a Saiga clone, but Vepr. Second, I have one and shot over 200 00 Buck and over 200 bird shots with not a single problem. Maybe you got a lemon or maybe it's ammo-related issues. Mine function flawlessly, as long as I properly adjust gas settings for different shot types. I love it too.
Reading through some of the other comments and now this one, I think Bran just got a dud Saiga. So much vocal support for this gun despite it's budget build, which says to me either Bran has a broken gun there; or he's loaded it incorrectly (which seems very unlikely).
But it's great to see that most people are happy with it, at the end of the day - if you need a gun you want it to work when it's tasked. It might be missing a birdshot, it might be saving a life. Whatever the scenario you don't want awkward chamber rubix cubes to contend with! So happy to see 90% of people not seeing these issues.
Someone should take their working one up to him, and revisit it on another video !
It's bad ass, and wasn't expensive:) It just needs to be broke in.
It is a Saiga copy with a magwell. Not a VEPR copy.
@@DailyCorvid I've seen other people talking about having the same issues, and the root cause being excessive amounts of cosmoline gumming up the works. Cleaning it out and using actual lubricant is the usual fix.
@@SchizophenicMongoloid no its not there are not interchangeable parts between this and a saiga but i see you dont know shit about guns
I’m not saying they are all full proof,maybe I got one that had correct tolerance? I had about 1200 rounds thru mine and I don’t remember any issues even with lighter loads. I don’t have the gun anymore or I would do a 500 round burndown.
The cry’s of “just as gooood” can be heard softly waving over winds
It's not just as good. It's a semi auto on a budget, but saiga 12s in import setup are pretty trash.
@@hunteraltman4762 i like my lynx 12. My telescopic dust cover broke off after 20 shots but for $600 i feel the price to preformance is pretty good.
@@Arthiem You know what's funny, I bought a VR80, kind of just for a shits and giggles semi auto knock around shotgun and I couldn't believe how well it actually stood up to abuse and how well it shot. I really didn't get it for anything serious, more of just a fun gun and I was quite surprised by it. Some things could of been better but for what I paid, I think 550, it was really decent and it didn't even need a break in even though it was new. But I'm thinking about getting a Lynx, they have so many "Saiga" style auto shotguns now, but I don't want to get stuck with a lunker.
This is a chinese shotgun, not a sav-alot shotgun.
@@Arthiem I recently bought my jts m12ak for $350. If it can fire a ton of rounds I'm not complaining. Mosins cost more than that right now, same for an sks and well they're alright but definitely overpriced right now.
When your out-of-the-factory zero is so bad you need a laser sight for your shotgun at 5 yards...
Bruh I wasn't at that part of the video when I read this and I legit thought u were joking or exaggerating
@@RobertSmith-fd7ke Thats like. . . video game levels of inaccuracy. Impressive.
@@jibb1451 The only ammunition used in video games is bootleg Rhodesian jungle with most of the shot missing. GTA5 has a more realistic shotgun effective range than I'm used to.
Why would they zero them for 5 yards at the factory. Don't you understand that if you zero a gun for 50 yards it isn't going to hit the same point of aim at 5 yards?
@latex glove Nah, I just played GTA5 for so long that it immediately comes to mind now, specifically when I think of shotguns. It was refreshing, having a shotgun that didn't spray most of the shot in a perfect cone around the target. But, yeah; it lost it's charm the second time it was remastered.
Mine has been awesome. I polished the rails and lubed it before i ever shot it. It cycles anything. Winchester cheap shit hangs up once out of 30. Everything else is reliable.
Mine runs smooth as butter with cheap birdshot from Walmart. First 100 shells were cheap high brass loads and they jammed about once every mag for the first 50, but smoothed up after that and stopped jamming completely after 70 rounds. Haven’t had an issue since and I love it! Yours either wasn’t broken in properly, or you were effected by the wonderful thing known as “lackluster qc”
"odd mixture of straight-shove and rock-and-lock"
HK guys: first time?
Happy I watched this before China takes this down for talking bad about something made by them
They already own the majority of Hollywood, they will own UA-cam eventually. And China's well known for censoring the internet in their own country.
Hey Brandon, I’ve commented on a few videos trying to reach you. My family home burned down and we lost some guns. The only parts we recovered were AK parts. Could you rehab them and rebuild an AK with them?
@@MackT you might be more successful trying to reach him at his website. Truly sorry that happened to you and your family that really sucks.
Surprised they didn't immediately try to steal the rights to this video.
There gonna make him do an apology video like John cena
I wonder if Brandon adjusted the gas block to accommodate for the light shotgun loads? Everyone I know that has one says it eats everything they feed it. He should give it a fair shake again.
I have one of these , I got it when it first came out to the market , right out of the box No problems here , from the 1st to now .
I have used all types of loads including hand loads ,all brands and manufacturers still no problems.
Maybe you just got a bad one , it’s not unheard of you know. 👍🏻
Shhhhh, they dont like it when "budget" guns are good here.
The music for loading and letting it off is perfect, considering it's stellar performance.
Raw Dawg all day!
Africa on children's instruments was dope
"The second worst thing that came out of China last year" And that cough before saying it made it an even better roast
@@cycadaacolyte6349 And it started to work numbers last year.
@@cycadaacolyte6349 late 2019 early 2020 so basically just round it up
@@cycadaacolyte6349 you really felt like you were onto something there huh
I have the jts mk 12, it was the 1st shotgun I brought. I have probably 2000 round though it and only 2 failers.. I feel like everything in this video was done to make this gun look bad.
Where u get it
was my first gun as well, has a break in period but after that runs pretty well, never fails with good quality slugs, never shot buckshot but birdshot is iffy
Agreed.
I mean a good Chinese shotgun is the HR Pardner Pump.
I've never had a single firearm that requires a break-in period. Boots need a break-in. Guns shouldn't.
I've had one for a long time and put alot of rounds through you have to use minimal gun knowledge and use the right gas setting for the right load and use the right loads for the weapon. Walmart target load has lots of problems in it while high brass has 0 issues. Brandon almost never misses but should probably learn more about shotguns
I was really hesitant about buying this but that amazing music pushed me in the right direction. Thank you, Brandon.
So when does it get delivered to your FFL?
@@timpeplinski960 FFL? I bought it off of craigslist.
ak50 test fire penetration test is where that gun should go
You should give it a dishonorable discharge with a .50 BMG
Ak50*
@@michaelcabada2933 what does the AK50 shoot genius.
@@solomonkullman1577 apparently it shoots the JTS Saiga 12
@@solomonkullman1577 I think he means just shoot it with the .50
@@MrHouse-fo1od which is the exact same as what the original poster was saying.
I've had my jts for a good bit and I absolutely love it! You just kind of have to find the right gas setting and you definitely have to break these suckers in, but once you do break them in they run flawlessly! I haven't had FTF or FTE in ages with mine! Could be that quality control is just not that great so some of the guns aren't as good as others oh, I may have just gotten lucky and got a good gun but I have never had any issues with mine even during the break-in. One thing I have noticed as that if you change to different types of shells you need to know the gas system pretty well so you can adjust it for what you're shooting at the time, but I really like that feature so you can throw any kind of ammo in it and it will run everything. It seems that there were best AK design really works well with this firearm for reliability. Now I have heard that the shotguns don't like low brass shells but then again I have fired several different brands of low brass out of mine and not had a failure to feed or failure to extract even with low brass. I think I paid around $430 with tax included for my jts and it was worth every penny in my book! Maybe try to just put some more ammo through it and it may start to work better. Also sometimes just polishing up the inside can do a world of difference on these cheaper guns
The good ones are great, just watch out fer the bad ones. And besides, as an AK guy you could easily polish it up, break it in and have it run smoothly in no time.
wow this sucks, im happy with my Lynx-12, looks almost exactly like a Saiga 12 and never jammed!
Your channel brings me joy btw
Isnt the lynx from Planetside 2
@@arthurmorganlefaye7626 Not the one he's referring to
@@krankeefamily7817 best purchase I've made. Lynx 12 rocks. Make sure you clean up the gas chamber tho sometimes they have gunk in them from the factory
They’re much better budget options I think
I don’t know if you could have made that malfunction any more sad or hilarious. Thank you so much for that. “It’s supposed to be a rock’n’lock, but you just have to…kinda…*wham* whack it….*mag flop*…I hate this gun.”
Got one of these from a friend of mine... runs great as long as you adjust gas knob for slugs or bird shot.. overall fun shotgun for me
Never had a problem with mine either
I have the Lynx system. It looks similar to what you have. It started shooting better. Well, a lot better after 100 rounds. It also uses the Sega magazine
That is the greatest rendition of Africa by Toto ever.
I agree
Yes definitive Africa by toto
I thought it was some Chinese song he played in honor of the shotgun's heritage.
Love how they cut off ruskey ammo but still import Charlie's guns
"charlie" is the wrong slur for Chinese
@@seamusnolan905 close enough
@@seamusnolan905 i mean it starts with a “C” so its not too bad i guess lol
China aren't one good pay day away from invading another country so trade sanctions against them don't make any sense
Because the politicians that be, are squarely in china's pocket.
I really like my JTS, the adjustable gas block is nice to get the gas correct for the load you are running. I found setting 3 worked good with normal birdshot and some buck and slugs. I put a rem breacher choke on mine and can’t really complain.
I went to shoot mine for the first time the other day, once I got the gas setting right it cycled everything. I'd highly recommend it. For the price it's really hard to beat.
“Pistols put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns, the right load at the right range will physically remove a chunk from your opponent and throw it on the floor behind him, and you will have to get someone to come clean it up with a shovel.”
Classic Clint :)
Entirely depends on the ammunition used, remember that incendiary ammo exists especially for shotguns.
@@cursedhawkins1305 thats why you use the right load
@@cursedhawkins1305 hence "the right load"
@@nex151 something must've been blocking his view of half the comment. 🤣
Brandon's custom AK fuckery: "of course I didn't zero the sights soooo gotta give me a pass if I miss" *doesn't miss*
Brandons import shitgun: dead on with the sights out of the box... *Miss miss miss*
Lots of guns straight out of the box don’t have zeroed in sights that’s why you always zero them.
Ha! "import shitgun". Quite the apt description of this piece.
Good lord that montage has me rolling even a year later…..god bless you Brandon
The flutes (recorders?) were a stroke of genius.. Kudos, good sir!
"The perfect shitty gun theme music doesn't exis..." RECORDER. TOTO. AFRICA.
I BLESS RAIN DOWN ON FRICA
I never thought I'd hate Toto "Africa"....til I heard this version.....need to bless my ears back to original BRB.
Brandon landed that shell and got mad, and I legitimately thought he was just gonna chuck the gun into the long grass.
Did....i just got rickrolled of your pfp??
Just fixed mine today. Thought I might've wasted my money until I figured out what was wrong with it. It's actually a pretty decent gun tbh. You need to clean the garbage and crap out of it that the manufacturers left in it. Changing the gas setting alone, will not fix this problem. Sorry you had a bad experience with it Brandon!
Right i had to do the same thing and it works fine now.
Surprising everyone, brandon later shoots 50 bmg in it without any mods to the weapon and it cycled a low and mid pressure 50 bmg and all the cast parts held up fine. Despite the rough hewn form it holds together. And at an amazing price
The montage sounds like a 4th grade music class playing their recorders....thank you for that worse than death memory
The same class designed that abortion of a Firearm.
Admit it, you downloaded as your ringtone!
It's still better than Yoko Ono !
@@ChiefMiddleFinger ua-cam.com/video/Ppm5_AGtbTo/v-deo.html
no, not more recorder class flashbacks
This is both the ugliest and the most badass shotgun I’ve ever seen
My VRBP is uglier and has a 19 round boomerang of death magazine.
The music tho 🤣
It's beefy.
you dont know what a ks23m is then
Have the T1 version, it is built like a tank. This guy doesn't realize the gun needs to be broken in, must be cleaned and oiled. No regrets buying mine.
I agree that its definitely a "budget gun" but it sure is fun. The first 50 or so rounds were ruff to cycle but once I figured out what gas setting worked the best for each type I was good to go! Also a thorough cleaning would help before you fire it.
I have the "Gen 2" version JTS MK12- T1.....FLAWLESS PERFORMANCE! I haven't did any cleaning or maintenance to it & I'm close to 700 shells ran thru it💪🏾...Set the gas settings correctly & push high velocity shells & you should be fine🤷🏾♂️
I never before heard Brandon yell out of pure rage before.
And he’s right
It's semi-semi-automatic. 60% of the time, it cycles every time.
Made with real bits of panther so you know it's good.
1300+ fps ammo and it'll cycle 100%, no complaints out of mine
So it's not fully semi-automatic, so it won't be banned. Right? :)
I bought the SDS Lynx 12 and it is actually decent. It even feeds my garbage half-assed BB shot reloads.
I bought mine because it’s was $299 at PSA. I cleaned the goop out of the gas tube real good before firing. Have fired 30 rounds so far without a single issue. It was also dead nuts accurate at 30 yards, and hit coffee can dead center at 50 yards with a slug. Not sure why you’re having issues.
Something about AK’s with bore diameters 0.49” or larger gives me the creeps.
Wait till you see the AK 50
Looks like a paintball gun. But way more dangerous.
I own the T-1 model of this semi auto and it’s been plenty reliable. Everyone else on YT has made sure to mention to break it in with high brass and over 1300fps rounds. That may explain the feed and cycle issues. Mine was a little tight first few cycles.
JuSt As GoOd
What they said is true. They do function quite a bit better after being broken in
I worked with my T-1 and smoothed out everything, worked the action a couple thousand times(as I knew I would have to) and it shoots everything except “ultra light” loads. As for not hitting anything? Guess he can’t shoot????
I mean he’s clearly using standard 00 buck which aren’t high brass and probably somewhere around 1200fps. Anything is going to not cycle if it’s factory new and using ammo that isn’t going to put out the force necessary to cycle it.
@@the1knifepro169 yeah, but this one does and it’s not only well known but mentioned in the literature you receive with the gun. There’s a difference between a genuine malfunction and not reading the directions.
It'd be interesting to see a video on what it would take to upgrade a gun like this to excellent status that sucks ass straight out of the box.
I would like to point out that these cheaper shotguns really just need a full disassembly and oiling before shooting the first time. Also needs a break in period of 70 to 100 rounds.
Never seen this style run reliably without having to be tuned to a specific load. That goes for 30/40 3 Gun matches across several counties and all kinds of money being spent on these things. I can load my 930 with anything and it runs no matter what. No tuning no nothing. It just works like a shotgun should.
Vepr 12 is unmatched
Same with my 870 but my 1100 hates paper shells. Between both I prefer my 870 just for the feel and looks, like with the 1100 it feels like I’m holding a broom, very stiff feeling. The 870 is one of my favorite guns but one that’s shot the least sadly.
My 930 runs like a champ, my 1187 is picky.
Jesus people why are you buying Chinese gun. Everything they produce over there is garbage and they have sm@ll dangles.
Gonna go full boomer here and say that magazine-fed shotguns are just a bad idea in general. Tube magazine shotguns have worked as a reliable and agile platform for over a century now, and running almost anything rimmed that isn't .22LR out of a mag is just asking for double-feeds and rimlock. Game won't need 10 shells, and armed intruders might need more. Just run a +1 extended tube and side saddle and git gud with tac reloading, or get an actual rifle in an intermediate caliber with a standard capacity detachable magazine. Mating the two is just the worst of both worlds in my opinion.
this is the worst "Low quality" version of any track ever.
Love it.
The real, palpable frustration that we saw in Brandon here, with the first white claw hit, was impressive and matches so much of my forays into the firearms world as a young-blood. I'm still young, but I know a fuck-ton more than I did.
10:45 the start of the funniest sequence of events i have seen from brandon thus far. Im primarily tagging it just so i have a quick replay button to laugh my ass off repeatedly.
This shotgun, and the montage music, make you wanna curse the rains down in Africa.
plus it jamming only a few shots in lol
I read-sang "rains down in Africa". Much funnier.
Can already feel it raining curses 🤣
"You made a fucky wucky, now you have to put on the headphones and listen to the kazoo music."
It rained milk down in America with this shotgun.
Now we need to see you review the Vepr-12. That thing is like the luxury version of the AK shotguns. No need to adjust gas ports, Krinkov style dust cover on a hinge, bolt hold open, a very solid folding stock, rpk style adjustable sights for slugs, and it's actually made in Russia.
Is it Luxury? Here it goes for like 750$ and it isn't even the best price
What was the name of the Shotgun Variant of the AK-12 in battlefield 4? Cuz that is what I'm thinking of or the Vepr from cod ghost
It’s a luxury when compared to the Saiga 12’s that got imported into the states. The saiga’s all had hunting stocks and no pistol grips. People had to do conversions on them to move the trigger and accept normal AK furniture. Meanwhile the Vepr 12 already is set up without and conversion work out of the box plus it’s built on a beefier RPK receiver. So compared to the state of imported saiga 12s I’d say the Vepr is the luxury model ak shotgun.
DBV-12 in Battlefield 4
Brandon trying to put the magazine in the gun is just like those unjam animations in Far Cry 2.
I have this same shotgun and its runs completely fine with any load 2-1/2” Low Brass Bird Shot too 2-1/2” - 3” Buckshot & Slugs. It has a completely adjustable gas system and as long as you adjust it to the ammo your using and keep it well oiled it will run every time!!! Worth every dollar. They are on sale rn at Palmetto State Armory for $279.00 you cant beat that deal at all.
I spit beer all over my TV when that bumping version "Africa" started playing. You're an evil man, don't ever change.
If you’ve ever bought a Chinese made AK shotgun and missed twice at 5 yards, go ahead and hit that subscribe button!
It might be because you’re using low brass instead of high brass. High brass works better with magazine fed shotguns. But I could be wrong.
I have this shot gun and have zero issues.
If it can’t shoot what’s available it’s fucking garbage
@@mildsauceboi1972 the saiga 12 had that same issue. Mine did.
@@josesalazar3835 sure it did buddy
@@mildsauceboi1972 It does...mines bad ass. cheap stuff cycles great.
That background music was perfect for this nerve-wreckingly amazing 🤣"china 12"🤣
You'd probably hate my dad's Saiga. It's an actual Saiga with one of those dumb AR style lowers that requires "modified" polymer Saiga mags and runs like shit because "modified" is code for molested by a monkey with a Dremel. It runs unbelievably unreliably as a result. It makes me sad.
You most hold your dad accountable and take over as the man in the family. No man can call himself a man if he destroys a saiga
@@bishoppope2921 that's a goddamn fact!
The only Dremel accessory to ever touch my Saigas was the cutter bit used to open the ejector pathway on one of the bolts. Otherwise everything was lovingly caressed by Arkansas stones in oil. And that's why they handle 2 3/4 dram without a hitch!
@@2fathomsdeeper I've never owned a siaga 12, but I do own a saiga .223 that I converted myself. It's hard to think that I unmolested an AK with a dremel lol
I bought this shotgun thinking it'd be just another average addition to my collection. It has so far been the only gun I've ever regretted purchasing.
Why?
@@barbain101 because he needs some peanut butter to go along with all that *jam*
@@bigboi4269 what jam?
@@barbain101 did you... watch the video
Try polishing some of the parts, and cranking way down on the sights.
LOVED THE RECORDERS SO GOOD
I like mine, it had a long break in but it runs now, csspec steel mags are pricy but worth it. Lots of fun for $400. Thanks for acknowledging the third hole it seems no one else does.
What Brandon liked about the gun:
It stays open if you want it to.
It looks good.
This montage music makes me want to buy it even more
And the gun comes with plenty of jam my favourite 😂
His presentation to me honestly seems like they did everything right in development but then cut cut corners in manufacturing.
Seems like this could be an actually nice firearm if you were to replace some crucial parts, so it's up for discussion whether that shotgun plus an upgrade parts kit would be cheaper than a Saiga or equivalent.
@@LeBoomStudios here in North of Ireland it's hard to get anything like this without police acception so I wudnt even care if it didn't work half the time just to have sumthin like that lol
@@ronan8834 Me too, I'm from Germany and it's almost as bad as across the pond.
I unfortunately know exactly where that song originated from and it's from a channel called "shittyflute". You asked for this.
ua-cam.com/video/vtHsqAjoXXY/v-deo.html
Now please don't buy the shotgun.
A couple more things to add as a pro, it has a chrome lined barrel and is compatible with Remington chokes (comes with a cylinder bore choke installed).
Another con, it has no sling attachment points.
This gun lookin hella cool dude! Thanks for the awesome review bout to get my own one!
"The trigger is... present" I lol'd IRL good at that
I would be interested to see a side by side internals comparison with a good Russian Saiga
I’m so glad this is my first video of his that I’ve seen, this is absolutely hilarious😂
1st did you strip the gun and remove all the china shipping goo. Espeacaly in the gas block and piston. 2nd did you set the gas block adjustment to match the type of load. Best option is 3 for all rounds gives you all the gas to help it cycle. 3rd it must be held tight so it can cycle she likes a bit of love and if you don't it will not cycle.
Could that third rivet actually be a support rivet for the receiver? Basically a bar to keep the receiver squeezed together and prevent it from bowing out.
Probably
That was my thinking when I noticed it on mine, as it does go the whole way across the receiver.
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.
“Modify the internals and make it function the way it supposed to.”
You could even make a how to video for everyone who also made the mistake and purchased one.
I don't think the UA-cam overlords would like that
Is that the AFT I hear in the distance?
NAh.. couldn't be, everyone knows they're too busy celebrating the promotion of "The Waco Kid"
Hay, I never said to incorporate the 3rd pin into the modification.
Let me be more clear “legally modify”
They work awesome. Adjustable gas block is key. Roll it to 3 & watch it eat.
I don't know what he's talking about. I have one that has never done that. I love mine so much it sits next to my bed at night.
“I had no idea how bad the out of the box zero was on this gun”
Me to my buddies every single time I go to the range no matter what the gun is
Lol. Same.
I didn’t know I needed a recorder version of “Africa” by Toto, but I certainly need it more than that shitty shotgun lol. Thank you Brandon!
I think he took that from "Rich Rebuilds" channel.. or at least it's very very similar.
From what that semi auto 12 guage looked like confirms it is just a really fancy slam fire pipe 12 guage.