yup and no practical fight scenes that are choreographed well like the marvel fight scenes. Think of the fight from the Avengers Civil War movie where Black panther is chasing Bucky and Cap is trying to stop him. All the jumps from the roof to the side walk were done by professional stunt men, the high speed running sequence where black panther is behind bucky and cap is behind black panther were done on magic carpets which are like treadmill belts that will dramatically increase your speed so they were actually going faster than the cars, real stunt people practiced that and then delivered. This movie just looked like a video game fight to me, everything is cgi and no practical fight scenes. Same like the first wonder woman where she fights the main baddie, it was all just cgi. I mean what the fuck is DC doing, shame on them for releasing such drivel to the public. Glad I didnt pay the 30 dollars for the this movie. Fuck this movie.
This movie was terrible, like really bad, but somehow Jeremy does a pretty good job of making it not sound terrible. Too bad I had already seen it and knew Jeremy is lying through his teeth
@@jojosoni6355 yeah I was at a college church thing a few years back and I heard some guys critiquing marvel movies and I went over. Turns out their negative critiques of movies amounted to stuff like Nick Fury being black, but he's white in the comics. I was out after that.
For a movie called “Wonder Woman” I feel like Wonder Woman’s arch should have been more important. Literally felt like she was a supporting character in her own movie.
I feel Steve's "sacrifice" moment should have been a lot stronger and would have made WW's arc much more satisfying. I was anticipating a real tear jerker - Steve choosing to die or WW having to kill him - instead we got this conversation in a side alley or something.
"Hey, remember that time when random objects and people manifested out of nowhere thanks to a businessman genie? Remember that nuclear war that almost happened?" "Um... nope."
The part when she was crying!! Ooohhhhhh that was cringe for me!! 😳😳😳. Like the camera was there for too long. Like it was waiting for her to cry. And end, where his son walked outta the bushes(like fuckin howwww) and they had that cliche run/hug moment!! My goodness!!!!!! That movie was horrendous
Like even when dude was explaining to her why he loved flying or some shit. It was so corny. And all of my thoughts was forsaking them to use that as how Wonder Woman learned how to fly but they fuckin did.
@@LaLiLuLeLoX Then the whole Spider-Man trilogy is bad too. Spider-Man 2 is bad due to how corniness it is. It genuinely doesn’t make sense, you find it cringy but that’s subjective not an objective criticism.
@@LeoDamian-gt8xf that's the way Sam raimi directs movie though, compare the tone of Wonder Woman with 1984 and there's a drastic difference even though its the same director, this feels so much cornier, spiderman 2 was corny but it was 2004 back then and it fit the movie well, not to mention the other great things.
Imagine if they made this movie, but the roles were reversed, then the Femenazis would have torn this movie apart. But to be clear, I don't agree with what happened in the movie regardless of wether it was a man or a woman being abused.
@@alifadila3364 yeah, Diana took advantage of a man, willingly. Then at the end, gave perverse glances at the same guy who is no longer possessed by Steve. Horrible
@@marcos71580 Congratulations, you are a monster. This isn't any outrage, stop trying to pretend like anyone is crying about it. We're just acknowledging how inappropriately handled this plotline is in the movie. It's fine to show a woman who f a guy who is unconscious in a movie. BUT. Please don't make it look like it's ok thing to do! Wonder Woman 1984 doesn't tackle this issue at all, it skips over it. Terrible.
I don't even know why they even bothered setting it in '84 the only 80s song was in the trailer and in the rest of the movie there was nothing it's like they had zero budget to license any other song and there was a lot of good music to chose from.
This movie was *”dog shit.”* I disagree with almost everything he said. I was so excited to watch this movie, I loved the original Wonder Woman, I think Gal Gadot plays the role very well. I’m a comic book reader and I’m aware of who the characters are. This movie was just awful. I kept on telling myself, this isn’t so bad, it’s just a few nonsense mistakes and cheesy scenes, it’ll get better, it’ll get better, I have faith, that’s not that bad.... it’ll get better and then... it didn’t, the movie ended and I wanted my money back. The whole plot makes absolutely no sense. There were a few things I liked but this movie was *”dog shit.”*
I would give this movie some of the greatest insults I can give to such a movie,it felt like an MCU movie and not like the old good ones,but like a post 2018 extremely trash garbage tier MCU movie. The jokes felt like MCU retarded humor. The plot was absolutely cringe,no consistency or continuety with any of the other DC films,JJ said it himself,for such a major event it's kinda odd no one in future DCU says anything about it. The fight scenes....my god I did not really have any high expectation there,but damn am I still disapointed. I dont even think I can call the "action" on screen a fight scene,it was more of a meme joke parody of a fight scene. That armor WW was wearing was some of the dumbest shit I have seen in movies and that one scene in which she rode to rocket with her laso,that was bellow even bolywood standards(ever seen that bolywood scene with the guy on the horse,sliding the horse under a truck like a motorcycle? Well that scene has advance computer simulated physics in comparison to the wildly ludacris physics bullshit going on in WW1984,most anime fights try to be more grounded that this shit) If you remember back in the day when movies like lotr,sw,matrix came out with epic fight scenes,MTV would usually do some very low budget parody of it featuring Jack black. I would say the fight scenes in WW1984 were like those parodies,but to be honest that aint even fair to the old MTV series,jack black playing overweight belly spiderman,shooting web in his room,that was a better,more logical "fight" scene than anything I have seen in WW1984 . And I dont even know what to say about that one 5 min scene in which wonder woman litteraly wasted most of the day picking a pretty outfit for her boyfriend,rather than going after a potentialy world ending threat. This is the most non wonder woman thing I can imagine,WW is a warrior,a leader,a girl that "gets shit done" ,just like the boys from DC. Can you imagine if batman was hunting after the jocker who recently stole a nuke and he takes a hole day off(all the while the jocker is out there,with a fucking nuke) picking a nice butler uniform for alfred which matches his shoes... Well this is basicly THAT scene. To be fair,the actors did a fine job,pedro pascal is a very talented actor,even though I absolutely hated his cringy character and the hole plot line,I certainly dont think it's any of the major actors fault that the movie was such a joke.
This movie was a wreck. I couldn't get over how weightless Wonder Woman felt in every fight. She was too floaty to make me believe any of it. How did they downgrade so much from the first movie?
100% agree. in the last fight against cheetah she had a floaty landing which made sense because she learned how to fly, but the impacts, the punches, the physics of the film, they all appeared floaty exactly how you said. she can shove giant trucks at 60mph (very much an assumption), but gets her powers completely restored and can’t even crack concrete. the consistency was completely lacking
budget... they had to pay everyone more this go round... It also seemed like they have different writers pen each act. I prefer the 2017 movie and, like or hate Batman v Superman...wonder woman's entrance in that movie and her performance stole the show. WW84 is not so atrocious as it is forgettable
True enough, we all felt cheated after watching this movie. That cheetah only shown once in the entire movie. Don't call her cheetah, just call her cheater!
Pretty convinced he didnt watch it or worse, is now a sellout. Serves me right for skipping to his rating and watching the movie. I started skipping forward from the opening sequence. Glad I didnt watch this in theatres, I would've felt robbed. Gal Gadot's acting was awful. Preferred her performance in the first one. Marvel is probably happy they dodged a bullet with patty jenkins.
I think Bruce Wayne would have remembered the events in this movie, seeing as how he definitely would have wished his parents back only to choose to sacrifice them because a lady on the tv said being truthful is good or whatever.
Right, how are you gonna release that dope ass trailer with the new order track and then have basically nothing in the film? Even Hans zimmers score is forgettable. Huge opportunity missed.
@@danielmillward9947 show me the evidence. She asking for advice doesn't seem the same. Plus it's not like the action scenes made the first movie great though that was part of it
Ok my biggest problem. She was in DC. She says good bye to Steve. She learns to “fly”and she glides away for a while. Then she remembers she needs her gold armor. Goes home... in DC. Then “flys”away again? What, where, why?
@@maxburrill6192 wow. And thats saying alot cuz that movie was utter garbage. WWI set the bar so high for '84 it just made every recent DC movie irrelevant. This movie was *GARBAGE JUICE* for me
Just got back from the theater about 3 hours ago, and this movie actually was pretty good in my opinion. It's not the best, but bottom line, it was fun.
Two months later, I finally got to see this - in an actual movie theater, yay! I mainly liked how the two villains were not full-out evil: showing Barbara being a basically good person who made bad choices because she was so desperate to be liked, and showing Max having a hard life and also making bad choices because he was so desperate to be a success and have his son be proud of him.
Maxwell Lorde turned Into a new wishing stone. Since Barbara made her first wish with the previous stone, technically Maxwell Lorde never granted her wish, and therefore she was allowed the wish to turn into cheetah
@@danielrosario7581 but he wished he was "THE" wishing stone, not a new one, so technically he can't give more a new wish, besides, how come the old stone take's a person's best value/thing while Lorde gets to choose what he wants to take? The old stone didn't pick and choose it just took what the person considered best with no choice or discrimination.
Throughout the movie, Lorde takes something from the people who make a wish. In the TV room, he took stuff from people (rage, tenacity etc) and gave it to Barbara. But why that made her turn into a cat, no idea!
Thought Black manta was/is fairly good/decent enough screentime and served his purpose. Orm usually IS the one villilain and I like that he hired manta to take down aquaman, and got his origin right to the point. Just imo, it aint perfect but I like his character enough in the movie. Especially his simple motivation in fight scenes with Aquaman.
@Adventist Dude was 100% alive and had his consciousness back at the end, did you even see the film? Also I would like to know the other films that did this as well, because this was definitely the first one I saw do it.
Common Jeremy, you're joking right? Were you drunk or high when you watched this? This plot was written by a 12 year old. Probably the kid that played Maxwell Lord's son.
Personal theory: The July 4th scene was thrown in when the release date was planned for June, because NOTHING before that scene suggests it's Summer in Washington D.C.. People were wearing coats, and tracksuits. Then the Christmas scene was slapped on to make it holiday-ish with the Dec. 25th release date. Both scenes were completely unneeded and just didn't really fit into the movie naturally. Also, the average American knew what fireworks work and had seen fireworks pre-WWI.
that could be the reason because it felt so odd and out of place. and would a professional pilot even fly directly into fireworks? they're still rockets, ya know?!
Fireworks were invented in 200BC lmao. They had fireworks in the Civil War etc etc... there was no reason to have him be all dumbfounded by those. Plus how tf did a WW1 pilot who piloted early prop war planes managed to fly a modern Era fighter jet with little to no problems. So many questions in this movie.
I was thinking in the end when it was snowing, maybe there was a time jump? But yea I thought it was weird how it showed July 4th but then later it was snowing and everyone was wearing coats.
This movie well eventually be rebooted or undone. They couldn't even do a wish movie right and hit the undo button at the end of this damn thing. This movie SUCKED. Not one redeeming quality inn this pile of crap, lol.
I hear you. I was thinking that too, but I was also thinking if it’s maybe because of COVID? Like with having limitations or something. Ah idk, maybe not
IMO, Cheetah was needed because she's Wonder Woman's arch-enemy. Imagine a Batman series of movies without the Joker. There would just seem to be something missing if it was all Maxwell Lord and his "wish-power." I felt that the winged armor was kind of forced into the plot. I had heard speculation that the reason for the armor was because of Cheetah's claws, but WW's gauntlets would be just as effective and she had already donned the armor before Cheetah made her appearance in her final form. I would also have liked to see more of a fully-powered WW at the end.
@@MuhammadDawoodYo until Chris likes a film you dont. This guy liked the film pointed out its flaws. You hated it, agree to disagree and move on. Thats how we do it in the land of the grown ups.
@@MuhammadDawoodYo All Im saying is agree to disagree whats wrong with that. You will like Chirs until he likes a film you hate then you will probably say he is paid too. Whats wrong with what I said dude?
@TheDiabeticGameMaster you're paying attention at all are you? Diana can harness lightning his father is Zeus who harnesses lightning. Cheetah can only be strong but can't have power like her.
@TheDiabeticGameMaster Found that weird at first too but found out that wonderwoman has naturally some resistance to electricity and lightining since she's daughter of zeus, just too bad they didn't explain that bit in the movie and I agree the scene still looked silly and uncomfortably unnatural
@TheDiabeticGameMaster Barbara only wished she would be as strong as Diana. Something like that. Then she wished to be the number one unlike any other. An apex predator. Cheetah? Ambiguous if you ask me. In the first movie, Ares revealed she is the daughter of Zeus and it was kept secret from her until that moment.
@Luis Collado Watched it for about 30-40 minutes with family and could not believe how lackluster and cheesy it was on another level. It felt like a fan made parody at times 😩 disappointed
Just saw the movie after waiting for two years. It could have been better, here are my thoughts: While I watched it, I loved the open sequence. I had fun while watching the movie and enjoyed it, however it was a majorly flawed film and I can see why so many people dislike it. There are eight things I wish the film had done differently to make it better… 1. Steve Trevor should've come back in the flesh, not possessing a body. Not only was having possession disturbing and problematic, but it was also stupid. Not to mention that poor guy! Where is he? Will he lost his job? Steve had sex with Diana in another body. WHY?! They could have just had Steve come back AS STEVE! Here's how it could have happened: Remember that awkward guy who knew Diana and worked in Washington? Who tried asking her out at the party? He could have asked her if she had a boyfriend and Diana could have told him she had someone, lost him, and that she wished she had more time with him. Then she could have walked away from him, then heard Steve’s voice say, “Diana.” Then she could have turned around...and saw Steve Trevor in the flesh! In the outfit he died in. Then he could have stayed the night at her apartment and then they could have gone to a store (where he looked out of place in his WW1 clothes) then had the funny scene where he tried on a bunch of eighties outfits in a store. 2. Barbara Minerva/Cheetah should've been portrayed by Rebecca Leigh Madder or Rebecca Ferguson. They are both redheads, British, and have the range to pull off Cheetah as an antagonist. 3. Some of the dialogue could have been tweaked. For example, at the mall Diana could have said, “really, you still think guns will work on me?” Instead of “I hate guns.” And Regan could've said, “oh my God” instead of “we’ve fired for less.” 4. The pacing near the end was awful and should have been changed. That last scene with Max Lord before he decided to save his son and renounce his wish did not have to be dragged on. 5. Cheetah’s origins could have been more faithful. While I loved her development. How she went from being awkward and relatable and wanting to be like Diana, to slowly becoming more confident, then eventually cold and selfish. They could have had Max send her on an expedition to the Safari in Africa where she and a small crew come across a tribe and they could have done the ritual from the comics that caused her to become the host of an ancient African Cat Goddess who existed before written language. 6. Cheetah should have looked different. They should've done what James Cameron did to Zoe Saladona in Avatar and modeled her design after Cheetah in Injustice 2 and they should have shown her fight Diana as Cheetah before their final fight. I would have liked to see her have Ginger Snaps moments of eating people. They could have at least showed her ripping out someone's heart and earring it, like she once did in the comics. They also should have revealed that she is still the host of a Goddess at the end and is now immortal like Diana. 7. They should have got a better action director because the final fight sucked. 8. There should have been more action! Honestly, the storyline could have revolved around Diana trying to stop the Cold War instead of a wish stone. After watching Chris Struckmann's review, I realized that it is convoluted. Plus Diana could have taken away people's memories of the events. They should have showed the villains suffering consequences. Now there were some things I did like about the movie. I thought Pedro Pascal and Gal Gadot had great performances. I thought Max and Barbara had good character development and sympathetic moments. I liked Max as a villain. Nowadays a lot of people want things without working to earn it. I catch myself being that way and thought Max’s story showed why our society and my generation need to be less lazy and entitled. I loved the opening scene on Themyscira with the Amazon Olympics and Antiope teaching Diana about honesty. Usually I prefer dark or gritty or a balance between darkness and light heartedness, but I actually liked how campy it was and the aesthetics of the film. It was very 80’s and made me feel nostalgic for 80’s films. It was fun! The camera work was great and I liked the score because it fit the movie. I liked the jokes and funny lines, they landed for me. I was so happy that they showed pictures of Diana’s friends from the first film that showed wedding pictures of Etta and Charlie (I ship it) and the picture of Diana with Etta as an old lady. I loved the Lynda Carter scene, that it was revealed that she was the Amazon warrior who originally had the golden armor. Now the film was flawed and could have been miles better. I understand why so many people hate it, but I like that I was able to turn off my brain during the movie and have mindless fun. Of course it would have been more fun if the third act and last fight scene were better, but the first two acts were a blast for me. Please don't attack me or cuss at me for having a different opinion. I liked the movie, but really hated some things about it that almost ruined the movie for me (Steve’s possession, the way they handled Cheetah, the pacing near the end, etc.) I understand why some people hate the film and why some people like it. We are all entitled to our own opinions, so let's keep it civil. To me, the opening sequence and the first 20 minutes was the best part! I enjoyed it, but it could have been WAY better!
Great review!!! I agree the opening sequence kicked!! I also thought the scene at the mall where that guy held the little girl was quite suspenseful. I thought it was too long and exaggerated, but the 80s were all about excess anyways.
The opening scenes actually served a purpose for the movie. It introduced to us a Diana that was ready to win by cheating. Rest of the movie was about Diana having a wish she didn't want to let go of. It solidifies that tearful goodbye to Chris Pine's character and portrays Diana as flawed too. It was brilliant, but a could have been told in less time, I guess.
just watching jeremy's hair like "we've passed 'Attack of the Clones kenobi mullet' phase, at this rate we will 'Gandalf the black' in 3 months..." lol
If you really take cheetah’s scenes out of the movie you’d miss nothing, Kristin Wig was good but there is barely any build up or evolution to Cheetah if she was just herself helping Diana then have her be the villain in the next movie would work better.
I do think the first scene in the mall being overly cheesy was on purpose. It felt like you was actually watching an 80's superhero movie. But I guess it was just them having fun cuz they didn't keep that vibe for the rest of the film
i dont see how anyone has not remarked that this was Arnold Schwarzeneggars fight in the same mall from the movie Commando security guards in brown and everything.....
Exactly and if she can turn a jet invisible she can turn herself as well. That would be a super useful power that she constantly isnt utilizing at all lol.
@@ninjastorm540 She wouldn't make herself invisible because she said she doesn't know how long it lasts or how to make things visible again... she lost the coffee mug.
and not to mention, the way her powers were introduced felt like an asspull outta nowhere. Just for a reference to her invisible jet plane. I remember watching the movie and hearing someone asking "what's the point of her plane if she later learns to fly?" The plane was literally just a one off thing, and I ask what is the point of that scene, if the plane is never brought up ever again?
@@cynicalducky1041 I know it is a bit nitpicking on an awfully inconsistent, awful movie, but in 1984 I doubt the Smithsonian Air Museum had an F111 Aardwark on premise as a the time that machine was still top secret due to it was one of the only planes able to carry the AIM 54 Phoenix missiles (much like the Tomcats) and had a range of only 6k km (so highly doubtful for a flight from DC to Cairo on one tank:)
"It's going to be very difficult for Wonder Woman to convince Billions of people in the world to retract their wishes" "Super easy barley an inconvenience!"
The beginning of the movie didn't link to anything?? Jeremy, my guy... the point of that whole intro scene was to teach us the whole message/lesson of the entire movie. If you want something, you have to earn it the right way. You can't take shortcuts or cheat to achieve it, and if you do, there's a price to pay. Obviously, this was a lesson Wonder Woman had to learn and accept again towards the end of the movie in order to succeed. And also a lesson everyone in the entire world, apparently (and cornily) had to learn.
Thank you for your review! I was listening to review the guy was getting emotional, and ... It's a movie chill out. Again thank you again for the straight forward review.
I'm surprised the sequel was directed by the same person a total 180 in terms of EVERYTHING I just saw an IGN video about Patty Jenkins talking about how she disliked the ending to the first Wonderwoman because of studio interference and how it was completely different to her original vision and honestly I'm starting to wonder how much she actually had a hand in developing because the ending to the sequel takes the cake for most WTF lame this is the best you could come up with feeling I've ever had.
@@2kool4rock She probably had a big part to do with this one Ths problem is, if she was creating a story and had VERY specific things she wanted to harp on, those things could blind her from actually piecing together a coherent narrative You have a lady who has little to do with comic books but VERY talented at directing Give her the responsibility of putting together a super hero romp You get bad CGI and a story that largely doesnt make sense Shane really
(minor spoilers) The reason I liked this movie was because it's emotions driven movie. Also, how humane the villains are. Which is a rarity in DC movie. Max was powered by greed but selfless for his son. Barb was willing to give everything for her greatest desire. Diana was never past her grief because she never had the chance to say goodbye. Tbh, I like this better than the first one because it provides a better ending. But the first 30 minutes is just slow.
I love how you go into actual details and explain why certain things are good or bad instead of being biased and roasting every aspect like almost every "reviewer"
When my wife picked up her phone and started looking at her calendar 27 minutes into the movie I thought 🤔 that's not a good sign. By the end she said that was not good and don't disagree. I found it to long very slow and very convoluted. To bad we both really liked the first movie. Overall 👎
I didn’t have high expectations for the movie, so I was okay with it. I didn’t think it was bad. Was it great? No. But I didn’t hate or dislike it. I thought it was worth a watch.
@@mrbobo86 Agreed. Like there are so many more movies that deserve that title. Even though I enjoyed it I can see why people wouldn't like it but I feel like people are going to far to say it's bad.
@@Saintlawrence100 People are allowed to like this movie, you know? Just because it wasn't great doesn't mean that nobody liked it. For example, I actually liked it very much even though I found the CGI awful, a lot of scenes cheesy and didn't like the lack of action. I tried to enjoy the movie and I did. Nowadays, audiences just want to complain about everything. Smh.
@@richierich7229 yeah but it's not just that it wasn't great. It was Ghostbusters 2016 bad. NOTHING made any sense. How can wonder woman talk to the entire world by T.V. in English when most of the world don't have a T.V. or talk English ? How can wonder woman justify having sex with another man's body who isn't dead and talking it on near death experiences? Why does wonder woman have powers in 1984 that she doesn't have in 2016 in justice leauge? Why had nobody seen wonder woman since 1918 in batman vs superman yet she's running around a mall in 1984 in full costume? And WTF was that CGI all about! This film was absolutely awful!
I was surprised by a lot of stuff in this film in a good way, but i still enjoyed the first one more because im a minor historian and love learning anything to do with ww1 or ww2, or just seeing it depicted on screen
Yeah, you'd think from the first and last scene that the lesson learned is "don't be a cheater", but like, that's not a relevant lesson for Wonder Woman? The themes I think the movie is trying to have don't connect with it's actual protagonist in any meaningful or clear way.
@@mori6434 she tried to cheat fate by having Steve stay with her instead of renouncing. I think, I don’t know. I was drunk when I watched this on Christmas night lol
@@eubaseball I mean... I guess? But she didn't knowingly cheat when she made the wish, she just kinda accidentally magicked her boyfriend back to life and then had to give him up again later. The message is somewhat hamstrung because unlike Max Lord, Diana didn't intentionally do anything wrong and she was the first to revoke her wish out of pure world-saving necessity. It seems more like the lesson she would've learned here is "don't wish for impossible things in case a magic rock hears you and ruins the world over it" or something.
@@mori6434 yeah I was just referring to that 10 minute stretch where she tried to save everyone without renouncing Steve. It was mainly just a joke tho, I don’t think the first 15 minutes of the movie had anything to do with the rest lol
@@mori6434 Hows this for an arc, Diana gets her her true love back but she basically stole another innocent mans life. She has come to terms that she CHEATED death and what she is doing for her own personal life fulfillment is ultimately immoral. What the stone cost her should have been her honor, not her powers. Ya see, I just incorporated the lesson of that pointless opening into an actual plot device AND that glaring unnecessary and completely ignored plot point of Chris Pine coming back in someone else's body instead of his own. Dear God this is a poorly written movie...😒💩
At first I didn’t recognize him at the start, but when his scenes were shot at more high quality angles I realized it was him. But I agree that his performance was pretty great, and it got significantly better over the course of the film which is ironic considering his character was experiencing health issues throughout the film 😂
@@zerocool5395 so long as Trump’s detractors are consumed by their mentally-ill obsession with him, we won’t “escape” him. They just “had” to shoehorn in a story about Trump. Because the creators of this movie just “had” to prove to us what great, enlightened people they are. What a disappointment this movie was, after the original was so wonderful.
@@ChineduOpara why was it interesting?? You REALLY think it is the first make a wish and something bad is gonna happen and your bf comes back to life but at the end he dies so you can be yourself????? It was the opposite of interesting it was borring
I felt exactly the same way about that opening. Comic book movies have come a long way and shrugged off the cheesiness you expected in an '80s superhero flick, but Wonder Woman's wink and the 'shush' set the tone for the rest of the film, and not in a good way.
You’re looking at the movie with political blinders. Steve Trevor wasn’t portrayed as bad. The homeless man wasn’t bad. It showed men and women making shitty wishes. Also, Cheetah was a female villain, and she didn’t beat up the guy for saying slow down sexy. That was the same guy who tried to sexually assault her before she got her powers. Her beating up the guy was the moment of the movie showing where Cheetah was choosing evil over good by beating the guy to implied death.
Yet they know talks about what happened to Handsome Guy getting body jacked, and Diana sleeping with steve, yet acknowledged that he was in some poor schmuck's body.
I mean that guy deserved it, but what about the ten other guys she passed by before met him, how come every man that isn't Steve Yrevor in this movie is acting worse than a hormone driven 13 year old, hell hormone driven 13 year olds don't even act like that
@@chickensdone1 lmao the homeless guy for real bruh thats some role model also he was in the movoe for about a minute every dude was a down right ass hole dont come at this with "some political blinders" when 90% of th dudes in a movie are portrait as assholes then that tells u something
Yeah, I've gone through the story in my head the last few days and it got worse and worse the more i thought about it. It's the worst DCEU movie so far. I haven't seen Birds of Prey yet, maybe that's worse.
Despite all the dissenting opinions I'd have to mostly agree, having just seen it. The movie certainly has it's flaws, but I think all the actors do a good job with the material given, including Pascal giving a phenomenal performance as Maxwell Lord. I also didn't think the movie was that convoluted beyond two or three minor plot holes, but I can see why others would have a hard time with it I hardly think the movie is with high regard but I'd recommend somebody check it out. The second half of the movie was actually really enjoyable to me, and while the action and effects were lacking I believe the story carries it just over the finish line.
Saw this in theaters. It's nice to have a fun, colorful movie that you don't have to overthink. It's nice to have a familiar superhero movie after this year has been so unfamiliar. I quite enjoyed it. That's just my opinion.
If everyone had their memory then the 80's must've been a wild af in the history books. "Remember that time we can grant any wish through the TV's and that there were fucking nukes in every single country that magically disappeared. Crazy right."
The message of the opening scene was "you can't win by cheating", therefore Barbara could never win because she's a cheetah.
Deep.
Lmao
You...! Fine, you deserve the like.
Badumchh! Lol
This joke is has bad as the movie itself
There was no fight with Cheeta, they just swung around in circles, landed in water and got shocked?
dont forget she clawed at the wings for a couple seconds
@@V8ToYy 😂 Also, were there “feathers” coming off the suit? I couldn’t tell.
Yeah, all that power and she gets electrocuted 😬
yup and no practical fight scenes that are choreographed well like the marvel fight scenes. Think of the fight from the Avengers Civil War movie where Black panther is chasing Bucky and Cap is trying to stop him. All the jumps from the roof to the side walk were done by professional stunt men, the high speed running sequence where black panther is behind bucky and cap is behind black panther were done on magic carpets which are like treadmill belts that will dramatically increase your speed so they were actually going faster than the cars, real stunt people practiced that and then delivered. This movie just looked like a video game fight to me, everything is cgi and no practical fight scenes. Same like the first wonder woman where she fights the main baddie, it was all just cgi. I mean what the fuck is DC doing, shame on them for releasing such drivel to the public. Glad I didnt pay the 30 dollars for the this movie. Fuck this movie.
@@gsin311 I feel like covid kinda forces a lot more cgi
WW: Everyone you have to renounce your wishes.
Kid with stage IV cancer: Guess I'll die.
dark
I wouldn't regret my 1million dollar wish😅
Pitch meeting?
@@rohinshingadia6120what?
@@alifadila3364 It’s a point they made in the pitch meeting series by Screen Rant. Worth looking it up
I legit laughed at the end when Mr. Lord renounced his wish and just ran off, even though he nearly started WW3 with nuclear weapons.
His little jog was hilariously awkward
Also they dont explain how all that bullshit everyone forgets about after? Or how cheetah is depowered since she didnt renonce the wish
This movie was terrible, like really bad, but somehow Jeremy does a pretty good job of making it not sound terrible. Too bad I had already seen it and knew Jeremy is lying through his teeth
Jeremy’s transition to Keanu Reeves is almost complete.
John Wick Jr
You mean that wasnt Keanu Reeves?
I'm so happy I'm not the only one seeing it lmao
Lol
Wake Up Samurai.. We have a movie to review
Missing opportunity in this movie:
WW: "Steve, I haven´t seen you since the first world war"
Steve: "Wait.... the first?!"
world war II is a missed oppurtunity tho :/ i think that would be a great trilogy with the scond being a world war II movie and the third to be 1984
@@belabudai8345
Nah
They should’ve brought him back as a Green Lantern. That’s the biggest tragedy
She still hasn't...
Totally! Also, what again was WW doing during WWII?
Me: wanted a Wonder Woman sequel
Me now: I renounce my wish
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Underrated comment
LMAO 😂
Best Comment in 2021🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice reference
When she was saying "The truth is beautiful." I feel like 7 y.o child
in the first film it was "love is the key". and people are upset over black widow's portrayal in the mcu
@@sdot6939 Who’s upset over Black Widow’s portrayal in the MCU? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone complain about Scarlett Jo as Black Widow.
@@Dominic-Decoco I think there will always be a small group of people who don't like anything.
@@jojosoni6355 yeah I was at a college church thing a few years back and I heard some guys critiquing marvel movies and I went over. Turns out their negative critiques of movies amounted to stuff like Nick Fury being black, but he's white in the comics. I was out after that.
@@SuperDecimator Nick Fury was race-swapped, but it was for tge better. Samuel L Jackson is the man
For a movie called “Wonder Woman” I feel like Wonder Woman’s arch should have been more important. Literally felt like she was a supporting character in her own movie.
I wanted to know what Wonder Woman been doing after she defeated Ares in World world 1 and how it changed her after the events.
I felt the same exact way! I thought it should have been called Pedro Pascal 1984.
It also didn't help that her acting was quite awful.
That's it! I couldn't figure out what it was, but you've nailed it!
I feel Steve's "sacrifice" moment should have been a lot stronger and would have made WW's arc much more satisfying. I was anticipating a real tear jerker - Steve choosing to die or WW having to kill him - instead we got this conversation in a side alley or something.
This movie sucked so bad I almost walked out of my own house.
Lol
Why risk covid over a movie when you could of turned off the tv and went to bed?
lol you definitely took that joke but its still funny.
@@ninjastorm540 Lol true
This comment has been resurfacing on every review of 1984WW. Are you stealing most popular comments? I'm sorry for asking of course you are.
She basically used talk-no-jutsu on the entire world 😂
Her lasso was an HDMI cable
Talk no jutsu + Goku genki dama speech
I love how everybody knows the naruto references lmao
I'm fucking dead LMAO 😂😂😂
Yeah that happened. Its seems now thats the new name of the trope
I reported my credit card stolen after paying for this crap.
Ahahaha
Lolololololololol
Laughter instantly flew from my mouth when I read this. 😂
😂😂😂
I pirated this , still want refund for something after watching this
Best thing about this movie was how Pedro Pascal is such a diverse actor. Sky is the limit for that guy.
Not even the sky is his limit
I agree, Pedro is the man and is killing everything he does. First saw him in GoT and have thought he was great ever since
No
Yeah, I love his weird accent that changes constantly throughout the movie.
This is the way
"Hey, remember that time when random objects and people manifested out of nowhere thanks to a businessman genie? Remember that nuclear war that almost happened?"
"Um... nope."
@Messages In a bottle Pa Kent: stfu Clark.
Yea, and let's remember it's okay for Marvel to forget about most bs that happens in their movies bc we only ever need to over-analyze DC.
@@jip3788 Whataboutism is a logical fallacy. No one was talking about Marvel.
Crisis wiped it all out and only Psycho Pirate remembers.
@@jip3788
Have you not seen Cap: Civil War?
For the first time in 10 years, I’m shocked at Jeremy’s review. This movie made me CRINGE physically it was so cheesy and dumb.
The part when she was crying!! Ooohhhhhh that was cringe for me!! 😳😳😳. Like the camera was there for too long. Like it was waiting for her to cry. And end, where his son walked outta the bushes(like fuckin howwww) and they had that cliche run/hug moment!! My goodness!!!!!! That movie was horrendous
Like even when dude was explaining to her why he loved flying or some shit. It was so corny. And all of my thoughts was forsaking them to use that as how Wonder Woman learned how to fly but they fuckin did.
@@LaLiLuLeLoX when she flies by using her lasso to grab onto clouds and lightning 😂
@@LaLiLuLeLoX Then the whole Spider-Man trilogy is bad too. Spider-Man 2 is bad due to how corniness it is. It genuinely doesn’t make sense, you find it cringy but that’s subjective not an objective criticism.
@@LeoDamian-gt8xf that's the way Sam raimi directs movie though, compare the tone of Wonder Woman with 1984 and there's a drastic difference even though its the same director, this feels so much cornier, spiderman 2 was corny but it was 2004 back then and it fit the movie well, not to mention the other great things.
Justice for Handsome guy! Diana knew that Steve was IN ANOTHER MAN'S BODY, yet STILL SLEPT WITH HIM! THAT'S REALLY BAD!
Imagine if they made this movie, but the roles were reversed, then the Femenazis would have torn this movie apart.
But to be clear, I don't agree with what happened in the movie regardless of wether it was a man or a woman being abused.
@@alifadila3364 yeah, Diana took advantage of a man, willingly. Then at the end, gave perverse glances at the same guy who is no longer possessed by Steve. Horrible
She could take advantage of me id be ok with it
@@makingthemostoutofnothing1256 ikr. Hard to believe grown ass men r crying abt a beautiful woman taking advantage of a man
@@marcos71580 Congratulations, you are a monster. This isn't any outrage, stop trying to pretend like anyone is crying about it. We're just acknowledging how inappropriately handled this plotline is in the movie.
It's fine to show a woman who f a guy who is unconscious in a movie. BUT. Please don't make it look like it's ok thing to do! Wonder Woman 1984 doesn't tackle this issue at all, it skips over it. Terrible.
I can't believe WW2 wasn't set in WW2...
So many Good options you could do with that setting story wise action and villains. But it might been too repetitive
IT MENTIONS WW2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
80s, wealthy characters around every corner and not a hint of cocaine in sight.
I don't even know why they even bothered setting it in '84 the only 80s song was in the trailer and in the rest of the movie there was nothing it's like they had zero budget to license any other song and there was a lot of good music to chose from.
Of course it's not in sight - it's already up their nose.
For Pedro Pascal, the stone is also a metaphore for cocaine. The thing disolves into dust and goes into his system.
Your profile pic makes this comment even better
YES!!!!
This movie was *”dog shit.”*
I disagree with almost everything he said.
I was so excited to watch this movie, I loved the original Wonder Woman, I think Gal Gadot plays the role very well. I’m a comic book reader and I’m aware of who the characters are. This movie was just awful. I kept on telling myself, this isn’t so bad, it’s just a few nonsense mistakes and cheesy scenes, it’ll get better, it’ll get better, I have faith, that’s not that bad.... it’ll get better and then... it didn’t, the movie ended and I wanted my money back. The whole plot makes absolutely no sense. There were a few things I liked but this movie was *”dog shit.”*
The opening scene was the best thing on the movie
@@38battery85 because it had nothing to do withthe movie LOL
@@alifadila3364 Yeah but it was made well. The rest was boring as fuck lol
Dude loose his consciousness and get fawked by Wonder Woman... Hey-hey-hey!
I would give this movie some of the greatest insults I can give to such a movie,it felt like an MCU movie and not like the old good ones,but like a post 2018 extremely trash garbage tier MCU movie.
The jokes felt like MCU retarded humor.
The plot was absolutely cringe,no consistency or continuety with any of the other DC films,JJ said it himself,for such a major event it's kinda odd no one in future DCU says anything about it.
The fight scenes....my god I did not really have any high expectation there,but damn am I still disapointed.
I dont even think I can call the "action" on screen a fight scene,it was more of a meme joke parody of a fight scene.
That armor WW was wearing was some of the dumbest shit I have seen in movies and that one scene in which she rode to rocket with her laso,that was bellow even bolywood standards(ever seen that bolywood scene with the guy on the horse,sliding the horse under a truck like a motorcycle?
Well that scene has advance computer simulated physics in comparison to the wildly ludacris physics bullshit going on in WW1984,most anime fights try to be more grounded that this shit)
If you remember back in the day when movies like lotr,sw,matrix came out with epic fight scenes,MTV would usually do some very low budget parody of it featuring Jack black.
I would say the fight scenes in WW1984 were like those parodies,but to be honest that aint even fair to the old MTV series,jack black playing overweight belly spiderman,shooting web in his room,that was a better,more logical "fight" scene than anything I have seen in WW1984 .
And I dont even know what to say about that one 5 min scene in which wonder woman litteraly wasted most of the day picking a pretty outfit for her boyfriend,rather than going after a potentialy world ending threat.
This is the most non wonder woman thing I can imagine,WW is a warrior,a leader,a girl that "gets shit done" ,just like the boys from DC.
Can you imagine if batman was hunting after the jocker who recently stole a nuke and he takes a hole day off(all the while the jocker is out there,with a fucking nuke) picking a nice butler uniform for alfred which matches his shoes...
Well this is basicly THAT scene.
To be fair,the actors did a fine job,pedro pascal is a very talented actor,even though I absolutely hated his cringy character and the hole plot line,I certainly dont think it's any of the major actors fault that the movie was such a joke.
Honestly I thought Cheetah was more intimidating before her transformation.
Lol same
Same! I was like hear we go! Felt like she was doing better before she transform
This movie was a wreck. I couldn't get over how weightless Wonder Woman felt in every fight. She was too floaty to make me believe any of it. How did they downgrade so much from the first movie?
100% agree. in the last fight against cheetah she had a floaty landing which made sense because she learned how to fly, but the impacts, the punches, the physics of the film, they all appeared floaty exactly how you said. she can shove giant trucks at 60mph (very much an assumption), but gets her powers completely restored and can’t even crack concrete. the consistency was completely lacking
ya she lassoed a lightning lol 🤣🤣🤣. This movie has very bad CGI too. Whenever Christan Wig appears u could see that there is a greenscreen
I'd just put in my thought process that they were fighting on the moon lmao
Wonder Woman got covid + and got a new floaty power.
budget... they had to pay everyone more this go round... It also seemed like they have different writers pen each act. I prefer the 2017 movie and, like or hate Batman v Superman...wonder woman's entrance in that movie and her performance stole the show. WW84 is not so atrocious as it is forgettable
I saw this for free via a friend's HBO login, and I still wanted a refund.
I downloaded it for free and wanted to send it back
Dang 😂
Same here! It was almost disturbing how bad it is. I had to rewatch WW I to try to wipe out WW84 from my memory.
True enough, we all felt cheated after watching this movie.
That cheetah only shown once in the entire movie. Don't call her cheetah, just call her cheater!
You can take that to the Bank lol
I never thought I see Jeremy Jahns damage control a movie this horrible and give it a “good time no alcohol required”
Did anyone even watch this movie before leaving comments? This wasn't a bad movie!
This movie was pretty terrible
Yup, the cheetah "fight" was the worst fight I've seen in a super hero movie. Extremely cheesy and disappointing movie!
Pretty convinced he didnt watch it or worse, is now a sellout. Serves me right for skipping to his rating and watching the movie. I started skipping forward from the opening sequence. Glad I didnt watch this in theatres, I would've felt robbed. Gal Gadot's acting was awful. Preferred her performance in the first one. Marvel is probably happy they dodged a bullet with patty jenkins.
Warner gives him pay checks
I think Bruce Wayne would have remembered the events in this movie, seeing as how he definitely would have wished his parents back only to choose to sacrifice them because a lady on the tv said being truthful is good or whatever.
That would have ruined his whole arc
The absence of 80s music made it hard to feel you were in 1984.
Right, how are you gonna release that dope ass trailer with the new order track and then have basically nothing in the film? Even Hans zimmers score is forgettable. Huge opportunity missed.
Spot on!!!
Absolutely! I kept forgetting it was supposed to be 1984. No Michael Jackson references, Madonna, Prince, Van Halen...shameful.
I feel like they had no idea what to call the movie and in the last minute just named it 1984.
Haaaaaaaannnsssss Zimmmmerrrrrrrrrrr
“There’s a great movie... somewhere in here” is frankly the PERFECT description for this film😭😂
Cyberpunk 2077: "There's a great game...somewhere in here"
Yeah... it has great elements, but it needs editing.
@@Prodigious1One It lacks a script and good characters. Editing has nothing to do with this movie being thrash
@Mr King
Wow sorry, didn’t know my opinion made people mad.
Exactly. I feel the concept of the film, the consequences of the wish making, would have did better toned down.
He was pretty generous with this review. But hey, it’s his review
This movie is hot garbage this dude can't be trusted
This movie was fucking garbage and boring Jeremy was kinda biased
This movie was awesome, haters gonna hate
@@ptolemaidagamers7398 well that’s your opinion I guess
To avoid another WW84 disaster, let’s hope Zack is involved with the third WW movie.
Why did it drop in quality when the first one was really good??
Bc patty jenkins didnt consult zack snyder in this one like the 1st one.
Zack didn't direct the action in this one
@@danielmillward9947 he didn't do the action in the first one
@@guileniam he did because patty didn't know how to stage it
@@danielmillward9947 show me the evidence. She asking for advice doesn't seem the same.
Plus it's not like the action scenes made the first movie great though that was part of it
Ok my biggest problem. She was in DC. She says good bye to Steve. She learns to “fly”and she glides away for a while. Then she remembers she needs her gold armor. Goes home... in DC. Then “flys”away again?
What, where, why?
Does she fly though? She keeps helicoptering and whipping her lasso around
@@djmaydraws3862 I have no idea.
Is not flying, is falling with style.
Same. I was confused when this happened.
Didn't she wish for the armor?
“Been in four movies right” as Jeremy looks to his right and asks no one.
His girlfriend.
I think his girlfriend or a friend might have been standing there lmao that was my first thought at least
@@dgas5904 You don't have other voices, from People you Can't see talking with you?
he's asking far away nisha
@@cloudsombrero I wanna see what she looks like. I picture a cute ginger
Probably the "Thor: The Dark World" of the WW movies
Guess that means the third one is gonna be funky in a good way.
Ironic/unironic? Patty Jenkins was set to direct Thor the dark world. 🤣
Thor: The Dark World was better than this.
@@maxburrill6192 wow. And thats saying alot cuz that movie was utter garbage. WWI set the bar so high for '84 it just made every recent DC movie irrelevant. This movie was *GARBAGE JUICE* for me
@@maxburrill6192 Anything Marvel is better than these DC films.
Just got back from the theater about 3 hours ago, and this movie actually was pretty good in my opinion. It's not the best, but bottom line, it was fun.
The only thing feeling 80's was the CGI
😂😂😂 God damn
Savage 😂🔥
Lol
nice!!! burn!!!
It's weird how the DCEU just depleted in CGI ever since BvS.
Pedro Pascal was essentially the only good thing about this movie unfortunately. Guy gives it his all with whatever material he's handed.
Yea I thought he was great
I thought all four of the main actors were great, but the movie is awful.
And the ending bit (for those people old enough) 😁
The actors were great. The story, Mcguffins, cinematography, and CGI were not.
He carried it for me honestly. His high energy cocaine attitude along with his arc was pretty good.
Two months later, I finally got to see this - in an actual movie theater, yay! I mainly liked how the two villains were not full-out evil: showing Barbara being a basically good person who made bad choices because she was so desperate to be liked, and showing Max having a hard life and also making bad choices because he was so desperate to be a success and have his son be proud of him.
Exactly how did Barbara gets her second wishes granted while everyone else only get once?
Maxwell Lorde turned Into a new wishing stone. Since Barbara made her first wish with the previous stone, technically Maxwell Lorde never granted her wish, and therefore she was allowed the wish to turn into cheetah
Shhhhh, shhhhhh don't worry about the logical inconsistencies. Just consume product.
@@danielrosario7581 but he wished he was "THE" wishing stone, not a new one, so technically he can't give more a new wish, besides, how come the old stone take's a person's best value/thing while Lorde gets to choose what he wants to take? The old stone didn't pick and choose it just took what the person considered best with no choice or discrimination.
Throughout the movie, Lorde takes something from the people who make a wish. In the TV room, he took stuff from people (rage, tenacity etc) and gave it to Barbara. But why that made her turn into a cat, no idea!
@@chrismentink4978 because she wished to be an apex predator on the plane
Sounds like the Black Manta issue I had with Aquaman: They use their iconic villain just because they think they HAVE to be in the movie.
Kind of. But if they didn't. People would complain about that... Damned if you do and if you don't.
Funny enough Aquaman movie and WW sequel both had the same problem of using and misusing their iconic villains lol
Thought Black manta was/is fairly good/decent enough screentime and served his purpose. Orm usually IS the one villilain and I like that he hired manta to take down aquaman, and got his origin right to the point. Just imo, it aint perfect but I like his character enough in the movie. Especially his simple motivation in fight scenes with Aquaman.
Yeah black manta was trash.
@@seabookfarno8656 Manta will be given more attention as he should in the sequel
You didn't feel strange when a random guy suddenly became Chris Pine?
Yeah seriously why is no one mentioning that she raped that guy?
I felt very strange when WW essentially raped an unconscious guy. Sure Chris Pine was driving, but it's not his body, he's just borrowing it.
@@sayheyguy Pretty sure people on twitter would've been boycotting this film if the genders were reversed
@@sayheyguy LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF 🤣🤣
@Adventist Dude was 100% alive and had his consciousness back at the end, did you even see the film?
Also I would like to know the other films that did this as well, because this was definitely the first one I saw do it.
Common Jeremy, you're joking right? Were you drunk or high when you watched this? This plot was written by a 12 year old. Probably the kid that played Maxwell Lord's son.
I doubt it, that kid actually seemed to know how humans act.
@@vcus
Stfu lmao. Movie was meghhh, let that man have his opinions
This is the first positive review I think I have seen about the movie.
Personal theory: The July 4th scene was thrown in when the release date was planned for June, because NOTHING before that scene suggests it's Summer in Washington D.C.. People were wearing coats, and tracksuits. Then the Christmas scene was slapped on to make it holiday-ish with the Dec. 25th release date. Both scenes were completely unneeded and just didn't really fit into the movie naturally. Also, the average American knew what fireworks work and had seen fireworks pre-WWI.
that could be the reason because it felt so odd and out of place. and would a professional pilot even fly directly into fireworks? they're still rockets, ya know?!
@@benzaiten933 Other than he managed to get a F111 from the Smithsonian off the ground? There was just so much wrong with the movie.
Fireworks were invented in 200BC lmao. They had fireworks in the Civil War etc etc... there was no reason to have him be all dumbfounded by those. Plus how tf did a WW1 pilot who piloted early prop war planes managed to fly a modern Era fighter jet with little to no problems. So many questions in this movie.
I was thinking in the end when it was snowing, maybe there was a time jump? But yea I thought it was weird how it showed July 4th but then later it was snowing and everyone was wearing coats.
This movie well eventually be rebooted or undone. They couldn't even do a wish movie right and hit the undo button at the end of this damn thing. This movie SUCKED. Not one redeeming quality inn this pile of crap, lol.
Worst CGI I’ve seen in awhile.
By a long shot
I hear you. I was thinking that too, but I was also thinking if it’s maybe because of COVID? Like with having limitations or something. Ah idk, maybe not
@@darkmagician9382 lol this movie was delaying from 2019
@@darkmagician9382 nah, JL and Aqua man had shitty CGI too.
I thought so too
IMO, Cheetah was needed because she's Wonder Woman's arch-enemy. Imagine a Batman series of movies without the Joker. There would just seem to be something missing if it was all Maxwell Lord and his "wish-power." I felt that the winged armor was kind of forced into the plot. I had heard speculation that the reason for the armor was because of Cheetah's claws, but WW's gauntlets would be just as effective and she had already donned the armor before Cheetah made her appearance in her final form. I would also have liked to see more of a fully-powered WW at the end.
Jeremy wished to give a good review and lost his credibility.
Yeah seriously, Jeremy was my go-to movie guy, and now I'm just unsubscribing.
@@alifadila3364 Chris Stuckmann is where it's at.
@@MuhammadDawoodYo until Chris likes a film you dont. This guy liked the film pointed out its flaws. You hated it, agree to disagree and move on. Thats how we do it in the land of the grown ups.
@@MsTruthhurts007 lol chill out dude 🤣 you're fretting over a comment. 😂
@@MuhammadDawoodYo All Im saying is agree to disagree whats wrong with that. You will like Chirs until he likes a film you hate then you will probably say he is paid too. Whats wrong with what I said dude?
Clicked faster than WB ditching movie theatres for streaming
@Rheya Ruiz sometimes people comment like COVID wasn't exits 🤷♀️
@@helloimvic7451 sometimes people also comment to just make a joke 🤷♀️
@Rheya Ruiz they still did them dirty though. They gave them no heads up after saying they were sticking to a theatrical window
Actually they are doing both streaming and theatrical. Get it right. 🖖🏼
Like theres no pandemic lol totallyy
This movie was a lot of talk about emotions without actually feeling any.
Exactly, it’s also so many topics without any depths.
I cringed when Diana and Barbara had to verbally say to each other how funny or whatever they were lmao that laziness in writing
@TheDiabeticGameMaster you're paying attention at all are you? Diana can harness lightning his father is Zeus who harnesses lightning. Cheetah can only be strong but can't have power like her.
@TheDiabeticGameMaster Found that weird at first too but found out that wonderwoman has naturally some resistance to electricity and lightining since she's daughter of zeus, just too bad they didn't explain that bit in the movie and I agree the scene still looked silly and uncomfortably unnatural
@TheDiabeticGameMaster Barbara only wished she would be as strong as Diana. Something like that. Then she wished to be the number one unlike any other. An apex predator. Cheetah? Ambiguous if you ask me. In the first movie, Ares revealed she is the daughter of Zeus and it was kept secret from her until that moment.
trevor when he's no longer in the first half of the 20th century: "where the jim crow laws at ??"
Ooh, too soon. LoL
In a children's comic book movie ... really not going to concentrate on heavy civil rights issues from 75 years ago.
@@southpawhammer8644 I agree, too soon.
Was he even from the south?
They definitely tried to make the beginning mall scene look like the original wander woman show
Never saw the original.
I got a wierd Police Academy vibe from it that didn't fit at all.
My whole family requested an intermission during this movie. We had to vote on whether or not we were gonna finish it.
We switched to Disney’s Soul after 40 minutes and that was pushing it 😭
@Luis Collado Watched it for about 30-40 minutes with family and could not believe how lackluster and cheesy it was on another level. It felt like a fan made parody at times 😩 disappointed
Me and my fam all have a unanimous thumbs down gladiator style and cut that shit off
I’m voting red out
He’s sus
Oh wait that didn’t say emergency meeting...
"It's like that episode from Star Trek The Next Generation..."
Somewhere, far away, Mike Stoklasa felt a disturbance
I thought the same thing
I had to check where I was....
Did you also hear the Rich Evans is laughing right about now?
@@cobra8888 His laughing never stops in my head
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFRENCE!!!
Just saw the movie after waiting for two years. It could have been better, here are my thoughts: While I watched it, I loved the open sequence. I had fun while watching the movie and enjoyed it, however it was a majorly flawed film and I can see why so many people dislike it. There are eight things I wish the film had done differently to make it better…
1. Steve Trevor should've come back in the flesh, not possessing a body. Not only was having possession disturbing and problematic, but it was also stupid. Not to mention that poor guy! Where is he? Will he lost his job? Steve had sex with Diana in another body. WHY?! They could have just had Steve come back AS STEVE! Here's how it could have happened: Remember that awkward guy who knew Diana and worked in Washington? Who tried asking her out at the party? He could have asked her if she had a boyfriend and Diana could have told him she had someone, lost him, and that she wished she had more time with him. Then she could have walked away from him, then heard Steve’s voice say, “Diana.” Then she could have turned around...and saw Steve Trevor in the flesh! In the outfit he died in. Then he could have stayed the night at her apartment and then they could have gone to a store (where he looked out of place in his WW1 clothes) then had the funny scene where he tried on a bunch of eighties outfits in a store.
2. Barbara Minerva/Cheetah should've been portrayed by Rebecca Leigh Madder or Rebecca Ferguson. They are both redheads, British, and have the range to pull off Cheetah as an antagonist.
3. Some of the dialogue could have been tweaked. For example, at the mall Diana could have said, “really, you still think guns will work on me?” Instead of “I hate guns.” And Regan could've said, “oh my God” instead of “we’ve fired for less.”
4. The pacing near the end was awful and should have been changed. That last scene with Max Lord before he decided to save his son and renounce his wish did not have to be dragged on.
5. Cheetah’s origins could have been more faithful. While I loved her development. How she went from being awkward and relatable and wanting to be like Diana, to slowly becoming more confident, then eventually cold and selfish. They could have had Max send her on an expedition to the Safari in Africa where she and a small crew come across a tribe and they could have done the ritual from the comics that caused her to become the host of an ancient African Cat Goddess who existed before written language.
6. Cheetah should have looked different. They should've done what James Cameron did to Zoe Saladona in Avatar and modeled her design after Cheetah in Injustice 2 and they should have shown her fight Diana as Cheetah before their final fight. I would have liked to see her have Ginger Snaps moments of eating people. They could have at least showed her ripping out someone's heart and earring it, like she once did in the comics. They also should have revealed that she is still the host of a Goddess at the end and is now immortal like Diana.
7. They should have got a better action director because the final fight sucked.
8. There should have been more action!
Honestly, the storyline could have revolved around Diana trying to stop the Cold War instead of a wish stone. After watching Chris Struckmann's review, I realized that it is convoluted. Plus Diana could have taken away people's memories of the events. They should have showed the villains suffering consequences.
Now there were some things I did like about the movie. I thought Pedro Pascal and Gal Gadot had great performances. I thought Max and Barbara had good character development and sympathetic moments. I liked Max as a villain. Nowadays a lot of people want things without working to earn it. I catch myself being that way and thought Max’s story showed why our society and my generation need to be less lazy and entitled. I loved the opening scene on Themyscira with the Amazon Olympics and Antiope teaching Diana about honesty. Usually I prefer dark or gritty or a balance between darkness and light heartedness, but I actually liked how campy it was and the aesthetics of the film. It was very 80’s and made me feel nostalgic for 80’s films. It was fun! The camera work was great and I liked the score because it fit the movie. I liked the jokes and funny lines, they landed for me. I was so happy that they showed pictures of Diana’s friends from the first film that showed wedding pictures of Etta and Charlie (I ship it) and the picture of Diana with Etta as an old lady. I loved the Lynda Carter scene, that it was revealed that she was the Amazon warrior who originally had the golden armor. Now the film was flawed and could have been miles better. I understand why so many people hate it, but I like that I was able to turn off my brain during the movie and have mindless fun. Of course it would have been more fun if the third act and last fight scene were better, but the first two acts were a blast for me.
Please don't attack me or cuss at me for having a different opinion. I liked the movie, but really hated some things about it that almost ruined the movie for me (Steve’s possession, the way they handled Cheetah, the pacing near the end, etc.) I understand why some people hate the film and why some people like it. We are all entitled to our own opinions, so let's keep it civil. To me, the opening sequence and the first 20 minutes was the best part!
I enjoyed it, but it could have been WAY better!
Great review!!! I agree the opening sequence kicked!! I also thought the scene at the mall where that guy held the little girl was quite suspenseful. I thought it was too long and exaggerated, but the 80s were all about excess anyways.
The opening scenes actually served a purpose for the movie. It introduced to us a Diana that was ready to win by cheating. Rest of the movie was about Diana having a wish she didn't want to let go of. It solidifies that tearful goodbye to Chris Pine's character and portrays Diana as flawed too. It was brilliant, but a could have been told in less time, I guess.
Exactly.
Well said. It was also about her desire to fly which she starts doing better towards the end.
Attempt 45 of getting Jeremy to review the rush hour films
How's it going so far?
Rush Hour 2 is a cinematic classic.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Im pretty sure I've lost count... but it's going alright I guess 😅
I tried those. I was bored out of my mind. I can’t recall a single detail or even how many there were.
One of my favorite comedy movies, I can probably replay them from the start in my head
I renounce my wish. I want my 2 and a half hours back
That's not how that works! Your wish is like the guy who got his coffee by wishing. XD
Not like you was gonna accomplish much in that time anyway
Bro I forgot all about you! I’m glad you showed up on my recommend😭
I'm glad Keanu reeves is reviewing movies now. Honestly love tour reviews, thanks for your insights.
just watching jeremy's hair like "we've passed 'Attack of the Clones kenobi mullet' phase, at this rate we will 'Gandalf the black' in 3 months..." lol
More like Jeremy's impression of John Wick.
@@clit_niblr0375 I agree he has more of a John Wick look.
He looks like he played in the old school Wolfman movies
If Cheetah wasn’t in it, it would have been a hero movie where the resolution to the crisis is a villain deciding not to be a villain anymore
Kristen Wiig was useless. DC continues its trend of miscasting and bad CGI
BC M she wasn’t useless, and what miscasting are you referring to? And yeah the CGI was definitely not the best 😂
@@pearse6104 I would assume the god awful pick to play Lex Luther for a start.
If you really take cheetah’s scenes out of the movie you’d miss nothing, Kristin Wig was good but there is barely any build up or evolution to Cheetah if she was just herself helping Diana then have her be the villain in the next movie would work better.
They rushed Cheetah. They didn't develop her char enough. They threw her in the movie just to have an iconic villain. BAH!!
That opening scene took all of 2020 to watch and then we jump to the actual movie
I do think the first scene in the mall being overly cheesy was on purpose. It felt like you was actually watching an 80's superhero movie. But I guess it was just them having fun cuz they didn't keep that vibe for the rest of the film
i dont see how anyone has not remarked that this was Arnold Schwarzeneggars fight in the same mall from the movie Commando security guards in brown and everything.....
Can we talk about the fact that Diana has the power to turn things invisible ? And she never uses that power again?
Exactly and if she can turn a jet invisible she can turn herself as well. That would be a super useful power that she constantly isnt utilizing at all lol.
@@ninjastorm540 She wouldn't make herself invisible because she said she doesn't know how long it lasts or how to make things visible again... she lost the coffee mug.
@@jLenger1 so why not make the weapons invisible or any other things that could stay lost
and not to mention, the way her powers were introduced felt like an asspull outta nowhere. Just for a reference to her invisible jet plane. I remember watching the movie and hearing someone asking "what's the point of her plane if she later learns to fly?"
The plane was literally just a one off thing, and I ask what is the point of that scene, if the plane is never brought up ever again?
@@cynicalducky1041 I know it is a bit nitpicking on an awfully inconsistent, awful movie, but in 1984 I doubt the Smithsonian Air Museum had an F111 Aardwark on premise as a the time that machine was still top secret due to it was one of the only planes able to carry the AIM 54 Phoenix missiles (much like the Tomcats) and had a range of only 6k km (so highly doubtful for a flight from DC to Cairo on one tank:)
I left the theater and said to my wife that it was OK. By the time we made it to the car I was furious that I saw it.
yo i loved the cheese. the ending was really bad though, wrapped up a little too quickly and had too many plot holes.
Lol the Trump thing is such a reach. There's nothing about Pascal's performance that even hints at Trump.
People think any wealthy evil guy is a metaphor for politics nowadays.
Look at his hand movements kinda like trump
@@darksaiyan4 bit of a stretch
@@strangebrontides8251 he built a wall with a wish
"It's going to be very difficult for Wonder Woman to convince Billions of people in the world to retract their wishes"
"Super easy barley an inconvenience!"
Was it like a Monkey’s Paw kind of wish? I haven’t seen the movie so I need to know why it sucks.
@@batgirl.with.glasses5281 plot that contradicts itself, bad acting, bad cgi, bad writing.
"Making wishes is tight"
Everyone else here after WW48 Pitch Meeting
"barley "
The best movie I saw this year in theaters was The Empire Strikes Back
I still love that movie its one of my favorite go to flicks
Hey another person talking about star wars. Shocker.
Best Star Wars film
Same man!!!
Best Film.
The beginning of the movie didn't link to anything?? Jeremy, my guy... the point of that whole intro scene was to teach us the whole message/lesson of the entire movie. If you want something, you have to earn it the right way. You can't take shortcuts or cheat to achieve it, and if you do, there's a price to pay.
Obviously, this was a lesson Wonder Woman had to learn and accept again towards the end of the movie in order to succeed. And also a lesson everyone in the entire world, apparently (and cornily) had to learn.
Thank you for your review! I was listening to review the guy was getting emotional, and ... It's a movie chill out. Again thank you again for the straight forward review.
Not gonna lie this one wasn’t for me, enjoyed the first one way more.
Just came from the theater .. yeah man . Same
I'm surprised the sequel was directed by the same person a total 180 in terms of EVERYTHING I just saw an IGN video about Patty Jenkins talking about how she disliked the ending to the first Wonderwoman because of studio interference and how it was completely different to her original vision and honestly I'm starting to wonder how much she actually had a hand in developing because the ending to the sequel takes the cake for most WTF lame this is the best you could come up with feeling I've ever had.
I don’t know. I kinda liked it
@@2kool4rock
She probably had a big part to do with this one
Ths problem is, if she was creating a story and had VERY specific things she wanted to harp on, those things could blind her from actually piecing together a coherent narrative
You have a lady who has little to do with comic books but VERY talented at directing
Give her the responsibility of putting together a super hero romp
You get bad CGI and a story that largely doesnt make sense
Shane really
At some point I actually forgot about Cheetah
Maxwell Lord after getting his hands on the stone:" I wish to wear a helmet and kill the Mountain."
Say it, say her name! Elia Martel
@@nicksmith418 😩
Awesome
He did it’s called the Mandalorian
Yes. My family didn’t know what the fuck I was doing when I kept saying “you murdered her”
(minor spoilers) The reason I liked this movie was because it's emotions driven movie. Also, how humane the villains are. Which is a rarity in DC movie.
Max was powered by greed but selfless for his son. Barb was willing to give everything for her greatest desire. Diana was never past her grief because she never had the chance to say goodbye.
Tbh, I like this better than the first one because it provides a better ending. But the first 30 minutes is just slow.
Couldn't have said so better myself.
I love how you go into actual details and explain why certain things are good or bad instead of being biased and roasting every aspect like almost every "reviewer"
I totally forgot about this movie
May as well of, it's pooh.
Liar
Just another superhero movie I don't blame you.
oh okay
I been waiting since November 2019
Still scruffy looking like a nerf herder lol.
Who's scruffy lookin
@@spartan003 Jeremy Kahn’s
Edit: jahns
@@robo5obionicgamer I know what he ment lol. I was just finishing the quote. When Han says "who's scruffy lookin?"
@@spartan003 I see You’re a man of culture
@King Slayer it's stylistic
When my wife picked up her phone and started looking at her calendar 27 minutes into the movie I thought 🤔 that's not a good sign. By the end she said that was not good and don't disagree. I found it to long very slow and very convoluted. To bad we both really liked the first movie. Overall 👎
I didn’t have high expectations for the movie, so I was okay with it. I didn’t think it was bad. Was it great? No. But I didn’t hate or dislike it. I thought it was worth a watch.
Same. The "disaster of a movie" is way overblown.
@@mrbobo86 Agreed. Like there are so many more movies that deserve that title. Even though I enjoyed it I can see why people wouldn't like it but I feel like people are going to far to say it's bad.
Me too....it's an escapist comic book movie set in the 1980s...what do these people expect??
"CGI was bad."
Well holy cow, they certainly had enough time to perfect it with all the release delays.
The CGI in most Marvel movies ranges from bad to good, but DC movies always seem to have rough CGI.
Not sure why.
and considering how successful the first WW was they should also had enough money so I don't understand why they didn't make it as good as possible.
. Hollywood politics
@@granthamlin8126bvs and mos both have the best cgi I have seen in both dc and marvel
The cheetah cgi was actually good. It was a mix of cgi and make up. 🙌
Jeremy being too generous with this one. I’ll give it t minus one day.
I think you're being generous too, I'd give it 🐕💩
It seems like he was bought for this one unfortunately... the review is tainted with a bit of guilt and shame
I was thinking the same...Something strange with his review...this movie was absolutely horrible...
@@Saintlawrence100 People are allowed to like this movie, you know? Just because it wasn't great doesn't mean that nobody liked it. For example, I actually liked it very much even though I found the CGI awful, a lot of scenes cheesy and didn't like the lack of action. I tried to enjoy the movie and I did.
Nowadays, audiences just want to complain about everything. Smh.
@@richierich7229 yeah but it's not just that it wasn't great. It was Ghostbusters 2016 bad. NOTHING made any sense. How can wonder woman talk to the entire world by T.V. in English when most of the world don't have a T.V. or talk English ? How can wonder woman justify having sex with another man's body who isn't dead and talking it on near death experiences? Why does wonder woman have powers in 1984 that she doesn't have in 2016 in justice leauge? Why had nobody seen wonder woman since 1918 in batman vs superman yet she's running around a mall in 1984 in full costume? And WTF was that CGI all about! This film was absolutely awful!
Jeremy love your videos and your voice impressions
I was surprised by a lot of stuff in this film in a good way, but i still enjoyed the first one more because im a minor historian and love learning anything to do with ww1 or ww2, or just seeing it depicted on screen
My biggest issue was that there was no arc. Like what was gained by the end of the movie?
Yeah, you'd think from the first and last scene that the lesson learned is "don't be a cheater", but like, that's not a relevant lesson for Wonder Woman? The themes I think the movie is trying to have don't connect with it's actual protagonist in any meaningful or clear way.
@@mori6434 she tried to cheat fate by having Steve stay with her instead of renouncing. I think, I don’t know. I was drunk when I watched this on Christmas night lol
@@eubaseball I mean... I guess? But she didn't knowingly cheat when she made the wish, she just kinda accidentally magicked her boyfriend back to life and then had to give him up again later. The message is somewhat hamstrung because unlike Max Lord, Diana didn't intentionally do anything wrong and she was the first to revoke her wish out of pure world-saving necessity. It seems more like the lesson she would've learned here is "don't wish for impossible things in case a magic rock hears you and ruins the world over it" or something.
@@mori6434 yeah I was just referring to that 10 minute stretch where she tried to save everyone without renouncing Steve. It was mainly just a joke tho, I don’t think the first 15 minutes of the movie had anything to do with the rest lol
@@mori6434 Hows this for an arc, Diana gets her her true love back but she basically stole another innocent mans life. She has come to terms that she CHEATED death and what she is doing for her own personal life fulfillment is ultimately immoral. What the stone cost her should have been her honor, not her powers.
Ya see, I just incorporated the lesson of that pointless opening into an actual plot device AND that glaring unnecessary and completely ignored plot point of Chris Pine coming back in someone else's body instead of his own.
Dear God this is a poorly written movie...😒💩
Pedro Pascal is becoming one of my favorite actors, what a performance man.
At first I didn’t recognize him at the start, but when his scenes were shot at more high quality angles I realized it was him.
But I agree that his performance was pretty great, and it got significantly better over the course of the film which is ironic considering his character was experiencing health issues throughout the film 😂
That hair was lame though.
@@TangoNevada The whole character was Trump, we can't even escape him in movies now lol.
Agreed, his character grew on me over time
@@zerocool5395 so long as Trump’s detractors are consumed by their mentally-ill obsession with him, we won’t “escape” him. They just “had” to shoehorn in a story about Trump. Because the creators of this movie just “had” to prove to us what great, enlightened people they are.
What a disappointment this movie was, after the original was so wonderful.
I am still confused why they are trying to sell this great love story when I didn’t think they really knew each other
Exactly. They knee each other for about 5 days and had sex once. And yet she can't forget about him? And it's been 70 years 😂
It's a pretty good movie. I enjoyed it. My rating is probably the same. Good time, no alcohol required.
Gal Gadot's face has been on my bags of Doritos for half a year
lol yes
I’m not complaining
You're hot
Should probably throw those away, they’re likely stale asf
I hope you have brushed your teeth since
this movie literally felt like a bad internet fan fiction come to life
Yes lol exactly
Twilight, 50 shades of grey and Wonder woman 84 are the same film. Or at least targeted towards the same people.
😏
If this was an internet fan fiction it was amazing ... as a Hollywood blockbuster..it was terrible
And then some high schooler got 100 million bucks to bring it to life.
@@ChineduOpara why was it interesting?? You REALLY think it is the first make a wish and something bad is gonna happen and your bf comes back to life but at the end he dies so you can be yourself????? It was the opposite of interesting it was borring
I felt exactly the same way about that opening. Comic book movies have come a long way and shrugged off the cheesiness you expected in an '80s superhero flick, but Wonder Woman's wink and the 'shush' set the tone for the rest of the film, and not in a good way.
I love how every man is depicted as a scum bad and cheeta assaults a man for saying slow down sexy. GREAT MORALS
You’re looking at the movie with political blinders. Steve Trevor wasn’t portrayed as bad. The homeless man wasn’t bad. It showed men and women making shitty wishes. Also, Cheetah was a female villain, and she didn’t beat up the guy for saying slow down sexy. That was the same guy who tried to sexually assault her before she got her powers. Her beating up the guy was the moment of the movie showing where Cheetah was choosing evil over good by beating the guy to implied death.
Yeah getting revenge
For a potential rapist yeah it makes sense
Yet they know talks about what happened to Handsome Guy getting body jacked, and Diana sleeping with steve, yet acknowledged that he was in some poor schmuck's body.
I mean that guy deserved it, but what about the ten other guys she passed by before met him, how come every man that isn't Steve Yrevor in this movie is acting worse than a hormone driven 13 year old, hell hormone driven 13 year olds don't even act like that
@@chickensdone1 lmao the homeless guy for real bruh thats some role model also he was in the movoe for about a minute every dude was a down right ass hole dont come at this with "some political blinders" when 90% of th dudes in a movie are portrait as assholes then that tells u something
"No alcohol required" for this movie??
Warner gives him pay checks
I know right? It's one of the worst DC movie I've seen. It was uninspiring in all aspects. It's like everyone gave up acting and screen writing.
We definitely needed alcohol to consume this movie 😶
Just anti depressants
He got paid from warner bros for this review
The more I’m thinking about it, the worse it’s getting.
Fr Pedro pascals villain got more screen time than she did it felt like
Yeah, I've gone through the story in my head the last few days and it got worse and worse the more i thought about it. It's the worst DCEU movie so far. I haven't seen Birds of Prey yet, maybe that's worse.
@@darkhierophant4914 yeah birds of preys pretty bad too
It's really getting me mad ,how bad this movie was ,Its getting to the point where I wanna say I regret watching it ,but that sound abit over dramatic
Dont think dont think dont think
Despite all the dissenting opinions I'd have to mostly agree, having just seen it. The movie certainly has it's flaws, but I think all the actors do a good job with the material given, including Pascal giving a phenomenal performance as Maxwell Lord. I also didn't think the movie was that convoluted beyond two or three minor plot holes, but I can see why others would have a hard time with it
I hardly think the movie is with high regard but I'd recommend somebody check it out. The second half of the movie was actually really enjoyable to me, and while the action and effects were lacking I believe the story carries it just over the finish line.
Saw this in theaters. It's nice to have a fun, colorful movie that you don't have to overthink. It's nice to have a familiar superhero movie after this year has been so unfamiliar. I quite enjoyed it. That's just my opinion.
Wonder Woman the strong independent woman who can't get over a guy she knew for about a week.
..maybe Steve was REALLY good in bed.
@@1MinuteFlipDoc maybe she saw more than just his watch on the first movie in that little pond scene.
Wow you took it THERE😭
Well to be fair, he was also the FIRST guy that she had ever met and was her introduction to the human world.
@@windowsVD still though, there relationship seems stupid as fuck and pointless.
Holy shit, the cheetah fight scene is the DCEU version of the final black panther fight... Down to the low lit felines 😂
For real that shit was wack I'd rather watch hulk vs abomination again.
on a completely separate note the background of your pp looks cool, love a plaza/square doesn't look like an absolute tourist trap which is good
The message of this movie is beautiful but people don't see it!!!! Sometimes life is beautiful just the way it is!!!
In WW2021 we find WW back at it fighting crime with her 26yo sidekick Wonder Boy.. she conceived with the body-snatched man in WW84.
UMMMM MATH?!?!?🧐🧐🧐🤦🏾♂️😂
Yeah this one is gonna be a no for me.
Good for you Randy Jackson
Shame, nobody cares
@@ssams24 yeah 200 plus say other wise
@@ssams24 in fact many thousands if not exponentially more say otherwise
Can't believe Jeremy liked this movie, 🤔 seriously not trusting his reviews after this.
If everyone had their memory then the 80's must've been a wild af in the history books. "Remember that time we can grant any wish through the TV's and that there were fucking nukes in every single country that magically disappeared. Crazy right."
And plenty of those nukes in the sky weren’t created by those wishes, they must’ve hit 😅
That's how I remember the 80s.
@@MisssKayy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This movie doesn't care about the DC timeline
You literally just copied this from Chris stuckman, wtf are you on about lmao
Watching this knowing I can't even watch it cause everything is closed were I am
Dude I haven’t got any notifications from you. And I have the all notifications on.