I will add my 2 cents here: amazing gun and EVEN BETTER with the 13 round mags (I am 6'2" with big hands). Great shooter at 25 yards and small af, but not too small. Easy to conceal.
I just picked one up today. I was looking at the other more expensive and I overlooked the shield plus until the range I went to had one to rent. I was very pleased so don’t underestimate S&W. I made the mistake and overlooked it. Now I carry this thing and am very happy with it.
Thank you for the review. I never get hung up on the reset. In a stress situation you will just be banging away. Not like you will be waiting to feel a reset. I am not nearly as experience as many of you but have a few different styles of fire arms and reset is never an issue. I am not going against a shot clock. Shield Pus is next on the list for me.
Love them! I got the performance 3.1, and original. I only shot about 50 rounds through. No hiccups, the performance models slide did not lock back. Another things the springs but got bent from the take down and cleaning, so I ordered replacement springs from Mid west gun works. Love the content brother keep it up! God bless always in Jesus name! 🙏
I bought the nimrod's ware pearce grip pinky extension for the flush mag. And what a difference in handling of the firearm. I feel like I have a better grip and more control
I have the same optics ready model. Bought December 2023. Watching your trigger reset, mine is about half the travel of yours and is damn near perfect imo. Wonder if S&W tweaked the new models a bit?
I bought the optics ready version as soon as it came out. I tried to do some research on what type of red dot I could put on it and eventually just gave up and bought the crimson trace 1550. Thats the type that comes on the performance center so I knew it would fit.
I made my Shields into Subcompacts. I Bought used a 9mm Shield. Changed out the trigger. Installed a 3 5/8 inch Threaded Barrel from Faxon, New Sites (Front Site bent), A Hogue Grip.. Also have a 9mm Shield Plus and installed a 3 5/8 inch True Precision Threaded Barrel. Also a Hogue Grip. Great Stability and Accuracy. Shooting 12 ounces hanging Beer cans 20 yards easy and 40 yards Body size Targets. Reliability 100 present. Even with no Optic Cuts nor light rail, I am Very Vary happy with them.
❤ I love mine because it has a bit of a kick for a semi automatic and I’ve got my red dot but now having difficulty finding a shoulder holster for it I’ll just make my own I guess only allowed a magazine of 10 here on Hawaii ... there was one size bigger the captain I had to lieutenant but I still use it as a concealed weapon ... Stay faithful finish well
I’ve owned a Shield plus 3.1 since March of 2023. This is mid November and I’ve had it it in my personal possession a total of 2 weeks. The gun has been back at Smith & Wesson attempting to be repaired. The gun while firing 124gr JHP will jam every 4th to 6th shot. I switched out different magazines, changed barrels, nothing kept the bullets from catching on the rail. S&W deemed it unrepairable and agreed to replace the weapon. I received the weapon yesterday, headed to the range today (cleaned and oiled before going). Shot 23 FMJ, had one hang up. Shot 20 Federal HST 124gr JHP had 5 rounds hang up. Will try 115gr Gold Dot JHP, but I think I’m done. If I can’t count on the gun when it need it most, no reason to keep it. Honestly too bad. When it fires it’s incredibly accurate. Great trigger.
Dang, sorry to hear that. I wonder if you are somehow riding the mag or slide release, or limp wristing. Maybe have someone else shoot it and see if they have the same problems. That still stinks tough.
Interesting on the reset with your pistol, mine is extremely tactile, and it almost feels like the trigger spring pops my finger out right to the reset.
Yah the false reset sucks. Caused trigger freeze. But I bought a new shield plus optics ready that had very crisp reset and wasn't as dull as my other shield plus.
Carried the original 365 for years. Great shooting gun for me. Wanted something a little bigger. Have the 365xl and this m&p. The m&p hands down was best for me. So easy to point and shoot w accuracy.
Trying to understand your trigger pull measurement. Jerry Miculek measured it at a hair under 7 lbs. Under 4 pounds doesn't seem right at all for a factory carry gun.
I’m heavily leaning towards getting this or the 3.1” barrel performance center variant. The more I ride the more I’d feel more comfortable with a buddy on my belt and the Glock 48 just ain’t it.
@@starbucksvec429 I just added the rubberized Talon Grips and the hand-feel is leaps and bounds better than stock, but I’m still getting a Shield Plus. I’ll save the money from getting the PC version and go for optic ready with fiber optic sights since it’s only ~$50 more msrp, at least around here
I noticed trigger definitely does better when actually fired. And it does even get better after about 100 rounds. I got the optic ready bug out bundle... Pistol with night sights, one flush fit 10 round mag, and four 13 round mags, a small first aid kit, and a little bag to put it in. Just got two 15 round Equalizer mags for the range. And with bear paw hands the 15s are perfect! Made in USA! 🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
I had the same problem with that trigger. After watching multiple UA-cam review videos and all of them showing a great trigger with a loud and tactile reset, the M&P Shield Plus that I received had a dead reset. I couldn't feel or hear it at all. I sent it back to Smith & Wesson and hope they can fix that.
@@jeremy7923 Smith & Wesson fixed it but not anywhere near what I saw in the videos. I can feel the reset now but just barely. The reset isn’t audible at all. I would not recommend this pistol to anyone. Don’t buy it unless you can hold it in your hand and try the trigger before you purchase it.
@@jeremy7923 I’ve only seen that at the big stores like Cabelas or Sportsman’s Warehouse. Usually the smaller gun stores will let you try out the trigger
Had a coyote p365 for 2 years before trading it in. What i like better about the shield plus is that it’s optic ready, don’t have to worry about slide rusting, better trigger wall, and grip circumference feels bigger.
Awesome gun I just don’t understand the logic in NO PICATINNY RAIL. There are several laser/light manufacturers on top of RECOVER TACTICAL devices to overcome this but it’s still odd they didn’t want to do one 🤔
I have an Apex for my full size M&P. My only hang up about getting one for the shield is that it says it will reduce the trigger pull and I like the pull weight as it is...only wanna improve the reset!
@@PilotPatriot @PilotPatriot yep. That was my qualm about the stock trigger reset in that it was weak but I'm digging the Apex Trigger shoe itself for it. I used a fishers solutions sight pusher tool to remove the stock sights and install Trijicon u notch night sights. The front sight required me to use a boxed end 3/4" wrench for added leverage and oil on the threads to get it off. You can just purchase the Apex Trigger shoe by itself if you like it plus you can leave the stock sear and spring in place I think. I might be wrong I usually ask their tech if something will work or not The trigger shoe pin is a booger to press into place if you don't have the transfer bar hole aligned just right.
Has anyone ever been in a gunfight and started to loose their focus because of their TRIGGER RESET?!?! I don't get why people make such a big deal over trigger reset lol...
Because good shooters train to feel the reset for faster followup shots rather than just letting the trigger all the way out. if you think the trigger has reset but it hasn't (which was the case here) it will waste precious time and could cause hesitation which could cause you to loose your life....
Out of all the compacts, my shield 9 plus P.C is by far my favorite. Some guys are a better shot with say a p365, but myself man the 9Plus is incredible. She is hardcore inaccurate with bb outdoorsman (yeah I know how stupid that sounds in the compact lol but God forbid a rabid hungry big black bear/mountain lion/bobcat ever thinks my family or myself are an easy meal that's the round you need) goes without saying don't ever anger any innocent animal but sometimes they do attack outta no where. So I also tried the underwood Xtreme penetrator +p and she's definitely not exactly ideal pure and simple. But let's be honest, besides a clueless city boy we all know that's what a fullsize is for pure and simple so is it truely a negative on the 3 1/8" 9 plus?? To me no, id prefer the 4" barrel but my local shop had the new (at the time obviously) shield 9 plus performance center WITH the thumb safety so, yeah my wallet immediately opened LoL The 9 plus will never be confused with a real high-end piece, but be honest how can you genuinely hate on it? Really besides say the particular feel or trigger which goes for anything S&W took the shield plus to the level it needed to be to top-if not beat the P365. Which for myself the p365 is excellent but the 9 plus is better all the way around. I was one of the "hate the ported barrels/slides" but this little snappy bastard has truely changed my mind. Yes she does get a little dirty around the ports but big fckn deal really, if you're not taking care of your fire arms then you're having issues regardless like it or not. With the porting even my sister is able to control it, and runs it almost as accurate as myself even tho I have far more experience with it, which speaks volumes to anyone with real experience. It's super simple, extremely reliable, extremely accurate (yeah the individual is half but still it's only a compact) it fires most ammo very well, outside of what i mentioned earlier, but if you really need that ammo you're running it through a fullsize normally. Last words in the ramble here, for the person who needs the Best All around all in one the shield 9 plus is the top dog. I have honestly not shot a better one (mine is performance center tuned)
No disrespect, how many times have you had to draw your firearm and use more than 7 to 10 rounds in your life? Could you do a survey? For say last 10 years? This would be interesting, not the everyday garbage put out by guntubers for ratings and sales, or "trends" Thanks
I have the same optics ready model. Bought December 2023. Watching your trigger reset, mine is about half the travel of yours and is damn near perfect imo. Wonder if S&W tweaked the new models a bit?
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Thank you for the links. Great video.
The new 15 round mag for the Equalizer is also for the Shield Plus.
that's sick
I love it! Already got 2!👍👍
I need to grab a couple of those
Killed me, I bought 3 EZ’s with 8rnd capacity. I hate to lose money on a sale or trade in just for 5 rounds🙁. Sometimes it pays to wait I guess.
I just ordered two of them online yesterday can’t wait! I can carry knowing I have 16 shots and 15 more (plus my 10 round mag when I’m at home)
I will add my 2 cents here: amazing gun and EVEN BETTER with the 13 round mags (I am 6'2" with big hands). Great shooter at 25 yards and small af, but not too small. Easy to conceal.
What about the 15 mag?
Very good presentation and I agree. After more than 50 yrs of shooting, I place my Shield Plus as the finest handgun I have ever owned.
With your experience, that’s good to hear. Just got one
I’ve only got about 25 years of experience but also think it’s about the best I’ve owned.
I just picked one up today. I was looking at the other more expensive and I overlooked the shield plus until the range I went to had one to rent. I was very pleased so don’t underestimate S&W. I made the mistake and overlooked it. Now I carry this thing and am very happy with it.
Thank you for the review.
I never get hung up on the reset. In a stress situation you will just be banging away. Not like you will be waiting to feel a reset. I am not nearly as experience as many of you but have a few different styles of fire arms and reset is never an issue. I am not going against a shot clock. Shield Pus is next on the list for me.
Love them! I got the performance 3.1, and original. I only shot about 50 rounds through. No hiccups, the performance models slide did not lock back. Another things the springs but got bent from the take down and cleaning, so I ordered replacement springs from Mid west gun works. Love the content brother keep it up! God bless always in Jesus name! 🙏
Easy trigger smooth up: Dry fire. Don't pull slide to reset. Rock trigger back and forth as if firing 10 min. Feel the roughness melting away.
I bought the nimrod's ware pearce grip pinky extension for the flush mag. And what a difference in handling of the firearm. I feel like I have a better grip and more control
I have the same optics ready model. Bought December 2023. Watching your trigger reset, mine is about half the travel of yours and is damn near perfect imo. Wonder if S&W tweaked the new models a bit?
I bought the optics ready version as soon as it came out. I tried to do some research on what type of red dot I could put on it and eventually just gave up and bought the crimson trace 1550. Thats the type that comes on the performance center so I knew it would fit.
You could carry a 10+1 in the gun and also a couple of the 13+1 magazines in your pockets. Best of both worlds.
I made my Shields into Subcompacts. I Bought used a 9mm Shield. Changed out the trigger. Installed a 3 5/8 inch Threaded Barrel from Faxon, New Sites (Front Site bent), A Hogue Grip.. Also have a 9mm Shield Plus and installed a 3 5/8 inch True Precision Threaded Barrel. Also a Hogue Grip. Great Stability and Accuracy. Shooting 12 ounces hanging Beer cans 20 yards easy and 40 yards Body size Targets. Reliability 100 present. Even with no Optic Cuts nor light rail, I am Very Vary happy with them.
Really like the Plus love the trigger I think it's more of a personal opinion but I'm very happy with the trigger & gun over all.
❤ I love mine because it has a bit of a kick for a semi automatic and I’ve got my red dot but now having difficulty finding a shoulder holster for it I’ll just make my own I guess only allowed a magazine of 10 here on Hawaii ... there was one size bigger the captain I had to lieutenant but I still use it as a concealed weapon ... Stay faithful finish well
It is a great pistol overall for sure!
i'd love to see what the slide looks like without the optic plate! I'm curious of the footprint
Just got mine love it shoots smooth
I’ve owned a Shield plus 3.1 since March of 2023. This is mid November and I’ve had it it in my personal possession a total of 2 weeks. The gun has been back at Smith & Wesson attempting to be repaired. The gun while firing 124gr JHP will jam every 4th to 6th shot. I switched out different magazines, changed barrels, nothing kept the bullets from catching on the rail. S&W deemed it unrepairable and agreed to replace the weapon. I received the weapon yesterday, headed to the range today (cleaned and oiled before going). Shot 23 FMJ, had one hang up. Shot 20 Federal HST 124gr JHP had 5 rounds hang up. Will try 115gr Gold Dot JHP, but I think I’m done.
If I can’t count on the gun when it need it most, no reason to keep it.
Honestly too bad. When it fires it’s incredibly accurate. Great trigger.
Dang, sorry to hear that. I wonder if you are somehow riding the mag or slide release, or limp wristing. Maybe have someone else shoot it and see if they have the same problems. That still stinks tough.
Interesting on the reset with your pistol, mine is extremely tactile, and it almost feels like the trigger spring pops my finger out right to the reset.
Yah the false reset sucks. Caused trigger freeze. But I bought a new shield plus optics ready that had very crisp reset and wasn't as dull as my other shield plus.
Carried the original 365 for years. Great shooting gun for me. Wanted something a little bigger. Have the 365xl and this m&p. The m&p hands down was best for me. So easy to point and shoot w accuracy.
Trying to understand your trigger pull measurement. Jerry Miculek measured it at a hair under 7 lbs. Under 4 pounds doesn't seem right at all for a factory carry gun.
Love the review. What is the sku for this exact version?
I’m heavily leaning towards getting this or the 3.1” barrel performance center variant. The more I ride the more I’d feel more comfortable with a buddy on my belt and the Glock 48 just ain’t it.
Always good to have a few buddies with ya, no doubt...Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson. 🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
And made in the USA!
I too have a G48 and I am wanting a Shield to carry in its place.
@@starbucksvec429 I just added the rubberized Talon Grips and the hand-feel is leaps and bounds better than stock, but I’m still getting a Shield Plus. I’ll save the money from getting the PC version and go for optic ready with fiber optic sights since it’s only ~$50 more msrp, at least around here
I have the 3.1 PC varient. Highly recommended
Shield plus+semi flat face trigger+Extra capacity= very Nice
Does the laserguard pro laser that you’re using on your old gun work for the Shield Plus?
It's the streamlight TLR-6 flashlight, but yes it works on both
I noticed trigger definitely does better when actually fired.
And it does even get better after about 100 rounds.
I got the optic ready bug out bundle...
Pistol with night sights, one flush fit 10 round mag, and four 13 round mags, a small first aid kit, and a little bag to put it in.
Just got two 15 round Equalizer mags for the range.
And with bear paw hands the 15s are perfect!
Made in USA! 🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
What did you pay for the "bug out bundle?"
I was waiting for the original shild to be traded in for this..really didn't happen..so I bought one on black Friday for 299..it's a great little gun
Nice. I got it when it first came out last year. Great carry gun but that $600 they charged me for it was robbery
ccw perfection for me!
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing. I just subscribe. Awesome channel. 👍
What if I lost one of the rmr screws you think there's a way to get a replacement for the plate
I had the same problem with that trigger. After watching multiple UA-cam review videos and all of them showing a great trigger with a loud and tactile reset, the M&P Shield Plus that I received had a dead reset. I couldn't feel or hear it at all. I sent it back to Smith & Wesson and hope they can fix that.
What was the end result?
@@jeremy7923 Smith & Wesson fixed it but not anywhere near what I saw in the videos. I can feel the reset now but just barely. The reset isn’t audible at all. I would not recommend this pistol to anyone. Don’t buy it unless you can hold it in your hand and try the trigger before you purchase it.
@carllove3705 Yeah... it's frustrating that many of the stores around here will no longer remove the trigger lock until you purchase it. 🙄
@@jeremy7923 I’ve only seen that at the big stores like Cabelas or Sportsman’s Warehouse. Usually the smaller gun stores will let you try out the trigger
Mine has that fasle reset it drives me nuts. Also a massive mag gap. Will be trading it for a trusty Glock 43x..
How you liking the 43x? I cant decide which of these two to get
43X will be awesome after you spend 2-4 hundred on upgrades
what holster are you using for the 2.0 shield with crimson trace laser guard pro green light and laser?
I don't have a crimson trace but I carry in a Stealthgear IWB holster
Great video!
I NEED A HOLSTER FOR MY PLUS WITH RED DOT ... OPTIC READY
Unfortunately, I was sold one with the Massachusetts 10 pound trigger
Call S&W and ask them to send you a 5 pound +/- trigger group.
Anything particular you like about the M&P versus the 365 or CZ75?
Had a coyote p365 for 2 years before trading it in. What i like better about the shield plus is that it’s optic ready, don’t have to worry about slide rusting, better trigger wall, and grip circumference feels bigger.
Awesome gun I just don’t understand the logic in NO PICATINNY RAIL. There are several laser/light manufacturers on top of RECOVER TACTICAL devices to overcome this but it’s still odd they didn’t want to do one 🤔
Most subcompacts this size don't have pic rails
@@PilotPatriot Most subcompacts DO: Beretta APX A1, Taurus G2C, G3C, Sig P365X, Keltecs etc can pull it off why not Shield Plus?
@OliGrant-sw8by lol, ur asking the wrong guy. Maybe ask S&W.
The M&P compact has accessory rail
Preformance center s&w sheild plus 9 mm
Great vid.
Don't train yourself to ride the reset. It's asking for trouble in a defensive encounter.
I jus got me one yesterday. does anybody have any laser and flashlight accessories suggestions?
Streamlight TLR-6
ua-cam.com/video/7kKUqzySlkw/v-deo.html
I have the exact same one
My shield plus is hard to rack with a full 13rd mag. Anyone else have this issue? Disappointed
Mine was like that. It's gotten better with time. At first it was a real bear to load, seat, and rack the 13 round magazine
👍 shield Plus
Try the Apex Tactical trigger kit.
I have an Apex for my full size M&P. My only hang up about getting one for the shield is that it says it will reduce the trigger pull and I like the pull weight as it is...only wanna improve the reset!
@@PilotPatriot @PilotPatriot yep. That was my qualm about the stock trigger reset in that it was weak but I'm digging the Apex Trigger shoe itself for it. I used a fishers solutions sight pusher tool to remove the stock sights and install Trijicon u notch night sights. The front sight required me to use a boxed end 3/4" wrench for added leverage and oil on the threads to get it off. You can just purchase the Apex Trigger shoe by itself if you like it plus you can leave the stock sear and spring in place I think. I might be wrong I usually ask their tech if something will work or not The trigger shoe pin is a booger to press into place if you don't have the transfer bar hole aligned just right.
A full size version (and compact) with the new trigger would be greatly welcomed.
Has anyone ever been in a gunfight and started to loose their focus because of their TRIGGER RESET?!?! I don't get why people make such a big deal over trigger reset lol...
Because good shooters train to feel the reset for faster followup shots rather than just letting the trigger all the way out. if you think the trigger has reset but it hasn't (which was the case here) it will waste precious time and could cause hesitation which could cause you to loose your life....
Out of all the compacts, my shield 9 plus P.C is by far my favorite. Some guys are a better shot with say a p365, but myself man the 9Plus is incredible. She is hardcore inaccurate with bb outdoorsman (yeah I know how stupid that sounds in the compact lol but God forbid a rabid hungry big black bear/mountain lion/bobcat ever thinks my family or myself are an easy meal that's the round you need) goes without saying don't ever anger any innocent animal but sometimes they do attack outta no where. So I also tried the underwood Xtreme penetrator +p and she's definitely not exactly ideal pure and simple. But let's be honest, besides a clueless city boy we all know that's what a fullsize is for pure and simple so is it truely a negative on the 3 1/8" 9 plus?? To me no, id prefer the 4" barrel but my local shop had the new (at the time obviously) shield 9 plus performance center WITH the thumb safety so, yeah my wallet immediately opened LoL
The 9 plus will never be confused with a real high-end piece, but be honest how can you genuinely hate on it? Really besides say the particular feel or trigger which goes for anything S&W took the shield plus to the level it needed to be to top-if not beat the P365. Which for myself the p365 is excellent but the 9 plus is better all the way around.
I was one of the "hate the ported barrels/slides" but this little snappy bastard has truely changed my mind. Yes she does get a little dirty around the ports but big fckn deal really, if you're not taking care of your fire arms then you're having issues regardless like it or not. With the porting even my sister is able to control it, and runs it almost as accurate as myself even tho I have far more experience with it, which speaks volumes to anyone with real experience.
It's super simple, extremely reliable, extremely accurate (yeah the individual is half but still it's only a compact) it fires most ammo very well, outside of what i mentioned earlier, but if you really need that ammo you're running it through a fullsize normally.
Last words in the ramble here, for the person who needs the Best All around all in one the shield 9 plus is the top dog. I have honestly not shot a better one (mine is performance center tuned)
Love mine, but replaced the stock trigger, nothing wrong with the original I just like the Apex replacement much better
I’m trying to like this gun. The snap is strong..
What ammo do you use?
Idk what you are talking about on the reset..I have the 10 pound trigger pull but the reset is awesome
Mines the opposite, 3.5lb trigger , crappy reset! That tells me they have no consistency. 10lb???? There's no way....those are revolver numbers
@@PilotPatriot the state of MA compliance
Can you use a full slide on this ?
Nice carry piece.
No disrespect, how many times have you had to draw your firearm and use more than 7 to 10 rounds in your life?
Could you do a survey? For say last 10 years?
This would be interesting, not the everyday garbage put out by guntubers for ratings and sales, or "trends"
Thanks
Personally, I've never had to draw my firearm in self defense at all....but those that have would always rather have more ammo than less.
Not trying to nit pick but your left thumb looks almost dangerously long and wild. Maybe there are experts that could weigh in and correct me.
IMHO this trigger is too light for a self defense gun.
Don't trust his measurement. Jerry Miculek measured it at just under 7 lbs.
Mine is around 6 lbs
Def not a 3 pound trigger
Dude, your thumb is darn near too long. Slightly scary, but it’s all good…..
I have the same optics ready model. Bought December 2023. Watching your trigger reset, mine is about half the travel of yours and is damn near perfect imo. Wonder if S&W tweaked the new models a bit?