The fairlead needs to be up above the top link and stood on end, not horizontal. That will keep the cable feeding to the center of the winch. And the winch should be tilted up at least 45*. This will aid in pulling the wood . Then weld a pair of hooks on the frame to hold the chocker chains and eliminate the chock load to the winch.
I am wanting to build something similar for Bobcat 753 for cleaning up fallen trees from our water way at the cabin. Am not trying to extract a entire tree with one pull as I will section it. Trying to get a handle on the size hydraulic winch to use. Some of the new product on the market for skid steer application are using 7,500 or 10,000 lb units with 1/2" cable. I am trying to get a handle on what size to look for. Also, is the rating criteria for all manufactures standardized? Thank you to all who have some insight as I am mechanically inclined, but new to hydraulics.
1/2 inch cable should be fine, it depends on what you are pulling and if it get hung up on something. The hydraulic winch should pull close to what it says if you supply it with the correct pressure and volume. The winch should give you a rating for each wrap of the cable, getting less with each wrap.
That is still on my list, I apologize. The times I have used it did lend themselves to videoing it. I hope to get it done soon. Thanks for letting me know you would like to see it.
Just a thought about making your blade on swivel. Making a pivot point on top of your blade will allow you to always pull forward and not get hung up as much. Good luck and please be safe.
How many batteries do you have to work with that winch ? An hydraulic winch is more expensive but if you work with the winch is the best choice, it's different if you use it rarely and for not long time, but considered all it's a good job!
As you say I use it rarely and for short periods. Mainly when I have a tree that might hit a building when I drop it. A hydraulic would be a much better choice but I couldn't justify the expense.
I have an old three point snow blade I can use. How’s this working out? Did you run a battery by itself? If so how long will it hold a charge? Will it last an afternoon? Thanks, Dave!
It has worked out well. I don't use a separate battery, I use the tractor battery and only use it a short period of time when I use it. For several hours I think you would want hydraulic. I use it mainly to pull trees away from structures as I cut them and then skid the trees with the tractor.
Soat Mon thanks for your kind reply. I have a 1990 Massey with no rear remote so adding one would be at least a grand. A friend was going to let me borrow his while he was away in Phoenix. So I thought this would be a more affordable option. Thanks, Dave
I'm in the process if building one myself I got a hydraulic winch and was wondering what thickness of steel you used it looks like from video where the winch bolts is 5/16 angle and the plate where pins for 3pt go is 3/8 am I correct? And is the steel you used heavy enough or would you do something different if you had to do it over again
You are correct on the dimensions. I haven't had any problems with it but the heavier the better. I just used what I had on hand. Good luck with your build, I'm jealous of the hydraulic winch.
@@SoatMon I am too I'm using an old blade and a bale spear for the 3pt hook up just don't have anything for the shelf for the winch and your build looks almost exactly like what I was after and yes hydraulic winch is nice I picked it up cheap off a utility truck that was in wreck they totalled
@loganhurst992 thanks for the reply. I just had my woods thinned to sell some timber and some of the tops are along a steep slope. I bought a very nice set of logging grapples by uniforest but needing a winch to retrieve those tops. Uniforest makes the winching/puling setup but kinda pricey. Trying to research any alternatives.
@flyingace1057 I don't know what will work best for your situation but sometimes I get carried away with a $100 solution to a $10 problem. Consider what you can safely do (and enjoy) while accomplishing the task. I have found that I can tackle 99.9% of my pulls with a little extra chain/cable and a better angle. Maybe a long cable and a snatch block anchored to a tree can get you everything you need.
I made a similar log winching attachment. I put a battery on the attachment then ran wires to charge the battery. I also got the wireless remote to use too.
I originally bought one to put on the front but took it back because I couldn't figure out a way to mount it and still use the loader. I later decided to make this one for the back. Hope all goes well with your project!
I did finish it and have used it a couple of times but haven't had a chance to video it. I have some things coming up that I'll be using it for and plan to video it. It works great.
I don't use it to skid logs a long way, mainly to pull them away from a building while I cut it. I don't think you would have enough battery to do a lot of pulling.
Your weak link there is the battery on your tractor. Electric winches draw a ton of amps. If you have hydraulics on your tractor, a hydraulic winch would give you more pulling power with less load on your machine. Nice build, though.
I agree. I originally was looking for a hydraulic or PTO winch but the cost was prohibitive for my use. I will mainly us it to lean a tree the right direction while cutting it down, it will do very little if any skidding. Thanks for the input and comment!
I plan on building one similar to yours, I am curious, though, how useful is the grader blade in your application, ( that is pulling a leaning tree before cutting it down): since you have to put the chain or strap 10-15 feet high on the tree for good leverage, wouldn't that tend to pull the 3PH upwards, pulling the grader blade off the ground? I can see it would work remarkably well in applications where the load is level or lower than the 3 point hitch.
You're correct it does tend to lift when pulling a tree but my tractor is pretty light so I have to brace it against something so I usually back up to a stump or another tree to keep the tractor from getting dragged.
@@SoatMon Thanks for the reply; since my work will be similar to yours (about 30-40 dead ash trees, thanks to the Asian ash borer), I will forego the grader blade and just use a nylon strap to tied to the front of the tractor & around a tree to keep it in place
Aint no way I'd a cut a factory blade. Farmi dont use cut grader blades. Plus, tractors dont have enough alternator for more than half a pull with an electric. Why not use hydraulic or pto? I just put a hydraulic tow truck winch on a tractor, pulls good. I guess I will put a large pto winch on one of the other tractors to use it a little. We are doing a full resto on skidder right now, so it is down.
Looks good. Do you like your quick connect brackets on the lower bar ends of you 3 point hitch? They make a version of them that would fit my small ford powermaster. But I didn't want to buy them just to try them out. What do you think about them. Hope you are having a good week end we are finally getting some rain now. :-)
I do like them, they are called Pat's quick hitch. There is a bar that is sold separately that I originally bought and used for awhile but I forgot and left it on a few times which caused it to get bent. Over time I decided to just use a bungee cord to pull them together and the turnbuckles to set the distance apart. I have several implements that require a different width so this works pretty good. I can drop and pick up implements that are the same width and quickly adjust to those that aren't. You of course still have to get off to attach the top link but it eliminated all the jockeying around to get the draw pins lined up. If you aren't perfectly lined up you just shove the implement back a little and it will line up against the brackets. One draw back is that it puts your implement farther out the back. I had to buy a new top link because mine would not extend far enough for some implements. I lost a piece to it at one point, emailed them to find out how much it would cost and next thing I knew I had one in the mail. They were worth the money especially since I am getting too old to wrestle around with 800lb farm implements. When you get trough with the rain, send it our way!
Nice job . Like the way you use what you got and make it work . Winches that are electric or hydraulic are better on tractors . Way more use for other things than just pulling logs . I made my own with hydraulic winch also . It’s on UA-cam . 12000 pound runva winch . Check it out if you have time . Do you have video of it working also
Thanks! I haven't had a chance to video using it yet. I've used it a few times but nor when I could record it. Hope to get it done soon. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks! I've used it a couple of times with good success, haven't stopped to video anything though. It will probably be fall before I use it again, I don't like the heat... Thanks for watching!
I am in deep shi*, mud I mean, what’s a nice build but where would you mount a winch on. Case 480 construction king skip loader when you need to winch yourself out?!?! That design sinking blade I get until you need to winch yourself backwards cause you fell through sink hole that has no bottom to curl out with loader and I have a 12,000 winch temporarily logged chain on top of rippers and as I expected it’s trying to rip box off but chain broke at tree and almost decapitated me as I was also concerned, dad had one on a fender of a Massey Ferguson that worked awesome but had good iron reinforcement unlike case fender..loader has haudralics in way and I can only go reverse cause road gone in front, no welders can assist at its current location, anyone please offer anything?!?
That electric winch is not gonna do it. It'll eat your battery. Even with a couple batteries it will be way to slow. I'm sure you know all this now as I can see this video is nor new.
I agree with you but it works for my purposes. I really just use it to pull a tree over when I cut it down, so it doesn't hit a building or something. I don't skid logs with it. A PTO or hydraulic would be better for most people but I really like the ability to be able to tighten it up while I'm near the tree. Thanks for the comment.
The fairlead needs to be up above the top link and stood on end, not horizontal. That will keep the cable feeding to the center of the winch. And the winch should be tilted up at least 45*. This will aid in pulling the wood . Then weld a pair of hooks on the frame to hold the chocker chains and eliminate the chock load to the winch.
Do you have a video of it in action yet? Awesome video.
I mounted my winch in the front af my tractor. I can then still have different things like hydraulic grapple or pallet forks in my rear lift.
I am wanting to build something similar for Bobcat 753 for cleaning up fallen trees from our water way at the cabin. Am not trying to extract a entire tree with one pull as I will section it. Trying to get a handle on the size hydraulic winch to use. Some of the new product on the market for skid steer application are using 7,500 or 10,000 lb units with 1/2" cable. I am trying to get a handle on what size to look for. Also, is the rating criteria for all manufactures standardized? Thank you to all who have some insight as I am mechanically inclined, but new to hydraulics.
Also, I failed to compliment the design. Thank you
1/2 inch cable should be fine, it depends on what you are pulling and if it get hung up on something. The hydraulic winch should pull close to what it says if you supply it with the correct pressure and volume. The winch should give you a rating for each wrap of the cable, getting less with each wrap.
Can we see the finished forestry winch at work?
That is still on my list, I apologize. The times I have used it did lend themselves to videoing it. I hope to get it done soon. Thanks for letting me know you would like to see it.
Just a thought about making your blade on swivel. Making a pivot point on top of your blade will allow you to always pull forward and not get hung up as much. Good luck and please be safe.
Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Great set up and just watched video of you using it.Definatly something I would like to build
Thanks!
How many batteries do you have to work with that winch ? An hydraulic winch is more expensive but if you work with the winch is the best choice, it's different if you use it rarely and for not long time, but considered all it's a good job!
As you say I use it rarely and for short periods. Mainly when I have a tree that might hit a building when I drop it. A hydraulic would be a much better choice but I couldn't justify the expense.
How big of a winch? Is there a minimum size you’d recommend. I have a smaller snow blade sitting around, thanks, Dave!
It depends on what you want to do. I would say at least 2000lb though.
Soat Mon I just need to be able to drag trees over my creek that runs through my property. Thanks, Dave!
I have an old three point snow blade I can use. How’s this working out? Did you run a battery by itself? If so how long will it hold a charge? Will it last an afternoon? Thanks, Dave!
It has worked out well. I don't use a separate battery, I use the tractor battery and only use it a short period of time when I use it. For several hours I think you would want hydraulic. I use it mainly to pull trees away from structures as I cut them and then skid the trees with the tractor.
Soat Mon thanks for your kind reply. I have a 1990 Massey with no rear remote so adding one would be at least a grand. A friend was going to let me borrow his while he was away in Phoenix. So I thought this would be a more affordable option. Thanks, Dave
I built a similar one, mounted the winch about 6" higher. It gets the front of logs higher off the ground when dragging...less dirt into bark.
That's awesome. I'd love to see a picture if you have one. You could send it to Soatmon@gmail.com if you want. Thanks for the comment!
@@SoatMon Please share photos if you get them!
I'm in the process if building one myself I got a hydraulic winch and was wondering what thickness of steel you used it looks like from video where the winch bolts is 5/16 angle and the plate where pins for 3pt go is 3/8 am I correct? And is the steel you used heavy enough or would you do something different if you had to do it over again
You are correct on the dimensions. I haven't had any problems with it but the heavier the better. I just used what I had on hand. Good luck with your build, I'm jealous of the hydraulic winch.
@@SoatMon
I am too I'm using an old blade and a bale spear for the 3pt hook up just don't have anything for the shelf for the winch and your build looks almost exactly like what I was after and yes hydraulic winch is nice I picked it up cheap off a utility truck that was in wreck they totalled
Let's see this thing in action! I'm considering building one myself over the next few days. Badlands 12,000 lb winch on my mind...
Me too, I'd like a logging winch but $3500+++ is too much money for a hobbyist like myself.
Will that type of electrical winch be rather slow vs a pto driven hydraulic winch. Would like to hear how your project turns out. GL
@@flyingace1057 It gets hot very quickly in a hard pull but does come in handy for the odd places where I can't just pull directly with the tractor.
@loganhurst992 thanks for the reply.
I just had my woods thinned to sell some timber and some of the tops are along a steep slope. I bought a very nice set of logging grapples by uniforest but needing a winch to retrieve those tops.
Uniforest makes the winching/puling setup but kinda pricey. Trying to research any alternatives.
@flyingace1057 I don't know what will work best for your situation but sometimes I get carried away with a $100 solution to a $10 problem. Consider what you can safely do (and enjoy) while accomplishing the task. I have found that I can tackle 99.9% of my pulls with a little extra chain/cable and a better angle. Maybe a long cable and a snatch block anchored to a tree can get you everything you need.
Awesome build! I love your 'drill press' :) I have one similar
Thanks! 👍
I made a similar log winching attachment. I put a battery on the attachment then ran wires to charge the battery. I also got the wireless remote to use too.
Sounds like a great set up.
Is that a electric winch?
Yes
@@SoatMon Doesn't the tractor have a PTO? How much amperage does that thing take to run?
Nice build there, been wanting to build one also. Now I have a plan, an old scrap blade and a old hydraulic winch. Thanks for the video!!
A hydraulic winch would be great but was outside of my budget. Good luck with your build!
Looks good been thinking about putting a winch on the front of my tractor.
I originally bought one to put on the front but took it back because I couldn't figure out a way to mount it and still use the loader. I later decided to make this one for the back. Hope all goes well with your project!
Let’s see this work!
Did you end up finishing and using your winch?
I did finish it and have used it a couple of times but haven't had a chance to video it. I have some things coming up that I'll be using it for and plan to video it. It works great.
Awesome to hear! My main thought was how the battery held up if it it had any problem keeping up with the winch
I don't use it to skid logs a long way, mainly to pull them away from a building while I cut it. I don't think you would have enough battery to do a lot of pulling.
I have a 3D model of one I built that has an arm to skid logs with
Your weak link there is the battery on your tractor. Electric winches draw a ton of amps. If you have hydraulics on your tractor, a hydraulic winch would give you more pulling power with less load on your machine. Nice build, though.
I agree. I originally was looking for a hydraulic or PTO winch but the cost was prohibitive for my use. I will mainly us it to lean a tree the right direction while cutting it down, it will do very little if any skidding. Thanks for the input and comment!
"old destroyed grader blade", looks almost the same but slightly better than the one I use LOL
Lol. I know how you feel. It was actually the frame I destroyed.
I plan on building one similar to yours, I am curious, though, how useful is the grader blade in your application, ( that is pulling a leaning tree before cutting it down): since you have to put the chain or strap 10-15 feet high on the tree for good leverage, wouldn't that tend to pull the 3PH upwards, pulling the grader blade off the ground? I can see it would work remarkably well in applications where the load is level or lower than the 3 point hitch.
You're correct it does tend to lift when pulling a tree but my tractor is pretty light so I have to brace it against something so I usually back up to a stump or another tree to keep the tractor from getting dragged.
@@SoatMon Thanks for the reply; since my work will be similar to yours (about 30-40 dead ash trees, thanks to the Asian ash borer), I will forego the grader blade and just use a nylon strap to tied to the front of the tractor & around a tree to keep it in place
Aint no way I'd a cut a factory blade. Farmi dont use cut grader blades. Plus, tractors dont have enough alternator for more than half a pull with an electric. Why not use hydraulic or pto? I just put a hydraulic tow truck winch on a tractor, pulls good. I guess I will put a large pto winch on one of the other tractors to use it a little. We are doing a full resto on skidder right now, so it is down.
Looks good. Do you like your quick connect brackets on the lower bar ends of you 3 point hitch? They make a version of them that would fit my small ford powermaster. But I didn't want to buy them just to try them out. What do you think about them.
Hope you are having a good week end we are finally getting some rain now. :-)
I do like them, they are called Pat's quick hitch. There is a bar that is sold separately that I originally bought and used for awhile but I forgot and left it on a few times which caused it to get bent. Over time I decided to just use a bungee cord to pull them together and the turnbuckles to set the distance apart. I have several implements that require a different width so this works pretty good. I can drop and pick up implements that are the same width and quickly adjust to those that aren't. You of course still have to get off to attach the top link but it eliminated all the jockeying around to get the draw pins lined up. If you aren't perfectly lined up you just shove the implement back a little and it will line up against the brackets. One draw back is that it puts your implement farther out the back. I had to buy a new top link because mine would not extend far enough for some implements. I lost a piece to it at one point, emailed them to find out how much it would cost and next thing I knew I had one in the mail. They were worth the money especially since I am getting too old to wrestle around with 800lb farm implements. When you get trough with the rain, send it our way!
Great idea! Why pay $1000s when you can DIY
Thanks!
Nice job. Glenn Lever
Thank you!
Nice job . Like the way you use what you got and make it work . Winches that are electric or hydraulic are better on tractors . Way more use for other things than just pulling logs . I made my own with hydraulic winch also . It’s on UA-cam . 12000 pound runva winch . Check it out if you have time . Do you have video of it working also
Thanks! I haven't had a chance to video using it yet. I've used it a few times but nor when I could record it. Hope to get it done soon. Thanks for the comment!
Very good, I'm working on something similar I hope it works.
Thanks and good luck with your build!
Nice job god bless
Great project....
Thanks!
Very nice, very useful. 👍✌🏆
Thanks! I've used it a couple of times with good success, haven't stopped to video anything though. It will probably be fall before I use it again, I don't like the heat... Thanks for watching!
I am in deep shi*, mud I mean, what’s a nice build but where would you mount a winch on. Case 480 construction king skip loader when you need to winch yourself out?!?! That design sinking blade I get until you need to winch yourself backwards cause you fell through sink hole that has no bottom to curl out with loader and I have a 12,000 winch temporarily logged chain on top of rippers and as I expected it’s trying to rip box off but chain broke at tree and almost decapitated me as I was also concerned, dad had one on a fender of a Massey Ferguson that worked awesome but had good iron reinforcement unlike case fender..loader has haudralics in way and I can only go reverse cause road gone in front, no welders can assist at its current location, anyone please offer anything?!?
That electric winch is not gonna do it. It'll eat your battery. Even with a couple batteries it will be way to slow. I'm sure you know all this now as I can see this video is nor new.
I agree with you but it works for my purposes. I really just use it to pull a tree over when I cut it down, so it doesn't hit a building or something. I don't skid logs with it. A PTO or hydraulic would be better for most people but I really like the ability to be able to tighten it up while I'm near the tree. Thanks for the comment.
@@SoatMon Right on. Works for me. Crazy windy in Ohio today and tonight.