The takeaway: - Still Hunt fuckin' ballin' - Whisper of the Worm is best if you don't have a funny Golden Gun Bird Hat to cram under your hood - Grand Overture is like the Hazardous Propulsion god, entirely outclasses Izanagi/Rocket swap, and is the highest rated "simple" DPS - Dragons Breath kicks ass - If you need a Legendary Solar Sniper explicitly to help with DPS, get Ikelos SR with Fourth Times the Charm and Focused Fury - Tommys Matchbook almost does as much DPS as Deterministic Chaos - Honestly any DPS setup from about Cloudstrike and upwards will serve you perfectly fine in most DPS scenarios
Tommy's Matchbook will beat it out in DPS. Tommy's does more damage when ADS, and Aztecross hip-fired the entire time. It's splitting hairs at this point, but still. Lol
I think the play here should be a little more involved. Use Dragons Breath w/ Iko and artifact mods. Ignition is the Heavy hitter, why not proc them EVEN FASTER?
People are definitely sleeping on Wings of Sacred Dawn + Whisper for The Witness. You can basically just ignore the dps mechanic by floating in the air and firing uninterrupted
People sleep on that part of the super. My clan has been doing crota recently and I easily top our damage numbers with lament because of that. Also works very well with outbreak stacking, very easy 1 rotation of Hfend from Warlords. If I play with people that struggle putting up numbers during that fight I will just have everyone switch to outbreak. I gotta test it with a full Rat King stack though, squeak squeak.
Been using it with still hunt and now I have all range devastation, like I'm not joking shit's amazing being nigh unkillable and reaching across the map to delete 3 things (or just 1) for a few seconds
Dragon's Breath + Hazardous + Twilight Arsenal + Embraced Identity (Appended Mag + Back-Up Mag + Enhanced Rewind Rounds + Enhanced Fourth Time's the Charm + Triple Void Reserves = Supremacy on a better Frame) = Me being a happy Sentinel Titan for DPS. I can benefit from Expanding Abyss AND Sniper's Meditation at the same time on my Sniper Rifle as well as Solar Fulmination on Dragon's Breath. Overcharged Armory and Winning Hand, too, and Winning Hand even gets buffed because I'm using Embraced Identity and The Call, so two weapons with Dealer's Choice. I use Controlled Demolitionist and Offensive Bulwark and let me tell you, Controlled Demo + Echoes of Undermining, Remnants, & Expulsion + Vortex Grenades + Dragon's Breath is a thing of beauty. Everything explodes in Purple and Orange. Constantly. Echo of Starvation + Offensive Bulwark means I have grenades up really frequently, too. Twilight Arsenal is just the cherry on top. The only problem I have is that I need a couple more Artifact Mod Slots. Well, one for right now. I need Shieldcrush. Even more bonus melee damage and increased Melee Regen is rather nice. I guess Prismatic Transfer would be nice as well. As would Threaded Blast for when my teammates make a Tangle and ignore it because they're on Prismatic and Prismatic has little to no Tangle interaction.
Dragon's breath has so much more utility and versatility. Still hunt is very much just, you thing go away now and it takes two exotics to do it. Which is why I think it should have the highest single target DPS in the game
Idk why but I like the way you do your content so much more than other like Rick and them I feel like playing and getting to learn from you would be actually fun
8:52 time stamp whoa buddy! In a work call and I forgot to turn off volume on my phone, I hit play and Cross says "...blow my load". Now I'm here showing co workers about the video I was referring to. 😅
I think you can increase the dmg a lot if you use one holster mod at least so you don't have to reload that last shot and when you activate still hunts super it refills your mag
Man D.A.R.C.I., as the smart rifle needs two things, its damage to stack as long as you keep hitting crits on the same target (a la Precision Instrument, but without that harsh of a time penalty between shots) and then last shot to be refunded as long as Personal Assistant (and that stacking x6 damage buff) is active. So, it has 7 in the mag, you shoot the first 6 to stack, the 7th refreshes the damage buff and keeps reloading itself as long as you keep it on target. Without any touching to its damage numbers I bet it'd become at least viable.
I don't know if you noticed but in your damage testing. The ignitions weren't going off every 3 shots. It was actually going off when you hit the 4th one. Not sure if it's a delay or a glitch. 6:40 when you were doing the damage testing for Ikelos
It's the ignition animation. You can only start to build up to the next ignition if the previous one did its damage. This results in rapid fire snipers to ignite every 5th shot after the first ignition and all others on the 4th shot.
For that Ergo Sum test, you should try it again but with a caster frame. The lingering damage procs perfect fifth so you can use it from a distance like the sniper rifles.
Crouching lessons the flinch because it grants very small stability to weapons, or maybe not. Idk lol. I just know it helps with recoil/stability utility at least
The Widows Bite that Banshee sold this week, (PULSE MONITOR, DEMOLITIONIST), is a fking lit roll that allows constant shooting and or full blowing of thy load(sit in a rift or healing turret under semi-heavy fire, grenade as spice)
@DanielMorales-jm3ll short hop timing is harder. It's also harder to dodge while scoped, and you have to scope to keep whispered breathing up. If you are on heat rises you could definitely use whisper though
You should have tested still hunt without nighthawk, the way the numbers ramp with the sniper buff might be interesting to see, especially with the nerf coming to still/hawk interaction.
As a Hunter main I’m sticking with StillHunt over Whisper. Still Hunt ease of use is way higher. The moment you miss with Whisper your damage is thrown off. The other thing is…SH is SPECIAL ammo! Way easier to get special than heavy ammo.
Bro I got an adept wildstyle yesterday with recon/incandescent so I enhanced them and slapped on ember of char and eruption and the ignitions are insane! The reloads happen so quick you barely have to stow it.
Guys did you know that each solar sniper takes four shots for an ignition. With ember of ashes though it takes 3. This makes rapid fires better. But remember there's a lot of things happening to help this. In case you missed it in the video!
Would've been nice to see Levi with expanding abyss since he used the solar mods for snipers. A void sniper with expanding and meditation would've been nice to see too.
Hey cross (and possible other dps testers) i got a question real quick: Why not use Rain of Fire warlock to test the dps of the weapons? Far as i know, it reloads all equipped weapons in virtually the same time window as hunter dodge but with an abismally shorter cooldown in the form of icarus dash. So why not that?
I’ve always thought this too My guess is cuz although Hunter dodge is longer it doesn’t eat up that exotic slot And also is on all subclasses while rain requires too much Ie solar subclass and Icarus aspect Which replaces some of the better aspect and or subclasses like strand or void But it would be nice to see more use out of it in dps phases but other things seems to be more viable
I think cross generally goes for the least setup possible. He mostly compares weapon damage (sometimes with passive buffs from exotics) rather than comparing rotations, which is what ROF really leans into. He also tests within like a 8 second damage phase, so ROF isn’t gonna make a huge difference there. If you want ROF accounted for check Aegis on youtube for his spreadsheet, it’s crazy in depth
Song of Flame gives your Solar and Kinetic weapons scorching ammo. I'd be interested to see what numbers Supremacy does with Dawn Chorus in that combination. Pop Song of Flame, don't use the super but use Supremacy. It would easily last the duration of that damage phase too
stasis hunter would prob benefit any non solar sniper more than a solar subclass in terms of reloading. you get 2-3 shurikans and each can reloadd your sniper when it hits a target
Borealis cooked when it was a heavy. The exotic buff used to give 100% dmg bonus and if you reloaded it with hunter dodge or had ahamkara you could keep it for the full mag.
I’d like to see if the weaken effect from deterministic will give the fireteam more overall damage. Like run three thunder lords then have one switch to deterministic and see which run had more damage.
Gonna depend on the nature of the damage phase. Templar is all well and good, but post-Still Hunt nerf, in a longer damage phase where you blow your whole load, would you rather have to follow up with heavy or follow up Whisper with special? I’d guess heavy.
Did 5.2 million damage the other day with Getaway Artist build, Nova Bomb, edge transit, riptide, and graviton its so cracked I hope they don't nerf it.
For anyone who just skipped to the numbers, hes not testing still hunt with apex, hes not on prismatic, hes not animation cancelling, hes just testing raw still hunt damage
I would have liked to see Embraced Identity with Expanding Abyss and Sniper's Meditation together. Not that its going to be meta, but to give every possible damage it can get.
It would be really cool to see a fire team test with deterministic chaos Vs divinity for the weaken debuff which would be 25% because of the artifact mod if the rest of the fire team use void weapons like leviathans breath
after the upcoming celestial nerfs, the total damage shunt will do will be around 1,175,675 (based on your best run), with shunt doing around 400k dmg per hit instead of 540k
Great video!, but I would have added one go with Still Hunt rotation but on Warlock or Titan (+rocket probably). How good is Still Hunt compared to Whisper when used in one of those classes? (I imagine it might be worse, but by how much).
Still hunt and whisper will be TIED in dmg if you take celestial OFF, because once the nerf hits, celestial will only be hurting still hunts dmg by keeping it on
Also when you dodge that takes time to reload still hunt but whisper you don’t have to so in a realistic damage phase whisper will be better and you can you don’t have to use celestial for it
Can you test out Full court at Witness? Cascade point/ Full court and still hunt might be disgusting. Extra benifit is if you die you still get the 25% damage buff instead of losing your explosive light stacks or having to reset BnS. You’d also benifit from the fragment that gives you more damage to a darkness debuffed target and the artifact mod that allows extra damage from void to weakened targets and if you have a eternal warrier class item you get a 25% damage buff there as well. Might be worth looking into.
should try last foray with envious assassin - focused fury, probably not the best but if you don't have ikelos and need a solar special sniper it works pretty good. Edit: twilight oath is solar and gets envious - precision interment
I know the main focus was snipers, but it's a shame you didn't throw in Microcosm, because that or Levvys breath is the go to for non-hunters against the Witness, so it be great to see if Whisper is worth taking over that now especially as the ammo economy might be better.
You should have tried Bastion with its damage buff, I've been using it with a Synthoceps, Necrotic Song of Flame Warlock. I think it could have done somewhat decent
1k voices cat should be that season of splicer mod for fusions and linears like the damage stays the same but buffs other fusion like ghally does rockets
The takeaway:
- Still Hunt fuckin' ballin'
- Whisper of the Worm is best if you don't have a funny Golden Gun Bird Hat to cram under your hood
- Grand Overture is like the Hazardous Propulsion god, entirely outclasses Izanagi/Rocket swap, and is the highest rated "simple" DPS
- Dragons Breath kicks ass
- If you need a Legendary Solar Sniper explicitly to help with DPS, get Ikelos SR with Fourth Times the Charm and Focused Fury
- Tommys Matchbook almost does as much DPS as Deterministic Chaos
- Honestly any DPS setup from about Cloudstrike and upwards will serve you perfectly fine in most DPS scenarios
Man deterministic is a sad gun
@@blackstreak02they buffed it and somehow a primary basically matches its dps
@@tristanclouden3736 They're gonna need to give it a catalyst and at least a 50 percent damage buff against bosses
What the hell were they thinking making deterministic chaos the worst?
It came from light fall, so seems legit
DAMMIT DARCI I LOST MY MORTGAGE BECAUSE OF YOU
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never bet on DARCI
The one time DARCI comes out swinging 😂😭
DARCI stocks are not looking good...
Your ex wife's name is DARCI ? lol
Whisper of the worm is absolutely fucking insane. Still hunt is still hunt, I’m not surprised by the damage, but whisper is WILD.
Once the nerf comes out, whisper is king thank god
@@IronTarkus876 whisper always top , but then it only on paper and perfect condition test
sad he didnt test still hunt outside of celestial synergy.
THE GOAT IS BACK BABY
Still hunt is still hunting 🤌
this is the only type of asmr i need, visually and audibly.
The raw damage numbers and the sounds of carnage
Cringe destiny player moment
Isn't heir apparent solar? Try it.
@@diaz1711 it wouldn't do anything? only snipers cause ignitions
@@Elysian-III somebody doesn't put out damage
Tommy's Matchbook will beat it out in DPS. Tommy's does more damage when ADS, and Aztecross hip-fired the entire time. It's splitting hairs at this point, but still. Lol
The beginning of the video alone, already answers that it’s gonna be solar snipers, the only 2 exotics ones
And 3 legendary ones that are remotely relevant
Cough Cough borealis ✋️🦉🤚
@@RoyceEllis-i3v what's a "borealis"?
@@giga-egg"a sniper to surpass still hunt"
I think the play here should be a little more involved.
Use Dragons Breath w/ Iko and artifact mods.
Ignition is the Heavy hitter, why not proc them EVEN FASTER?
People are definitely sleeping on Wings of Sacred Dawn + Whisper for The Witness. You can basically just ignore the dps mechanic by floating in the air and firing uninterrupted
This is exactly what i've been looking for. A way to avoid death and just focus on DPS. Thank you.
If you float too hig, you end up leaving the range of the damage plate, and all your shots will be immune.
🤔
Should have tested Still Hunt without Celestial too to see how it would stack up to whisper for other classes besides Hunter.
He’s not a good player, he’s never going to do actual good testing 😂
Early Christmas boys, half hour damage testing
Hey aztecross, song of flame adds scorch to solar and kinetic weapons. I believe with ashes and whisper you can two headshot ignite.
People sleep on that part of the super. My clan has been doing crota recently and I easily top our damage numbers with lament because of that.
Also works very well with outbreak stacking, very easy 1 rotation of Hfend from Warlords. If I play with people that struggle putting up numbers during that fight I will just have everyone switch to outbreak.
I gotta test it with a full Rat King stack though, squeak squeak.
Been using it with still hunt and now I have all range devastation, like I'm not joking shit's amazing being nigh unkillable and reaching across the map to delete 3 things (or just 1) for a few seconds
@@joshtenney4143
Let us know how squeak squeak goes?
Using Song of Flame with Microcosm is an absolute blast for DPS - pun intended.
@@joshtenney4143 your clanmates are literally afking damage then because spamming light attack with any sword beats it
I wanna start using Still Hunt for the DMG, but I'm having such a good time with Dragon's breath!!
Dragons breath is great. "Oh man there are all these adds around the boss" fire and forget. Super rad.
Dragon breath is so good! Stubs unstoppables and does some serious aoe on the ignitions. Been having a blast with it myself!
Dragon's Breath + Hazardous + Twilight Arsenal + Embraced Identity (Appended Mag + Back-Up Mag + Enhanced Rewind Rounds + Enhanced Fourth Time's the Charm + Triple Void Reserves = Supremacy on a better Frame) = Me being a happy Sentinel Titan for DPS. I can benefit from Expanding Abyss AND Sniper's Meditation at the same time on my Sniper Rifle as well as Solar Fulmination on Dragon's Breath. Overcharged Armory and Winning Hand, too, and Winning Hand even gets buffed because I'm using Embraced Identity and The Call, so two weapons with Dealer's Choice. I use Controlled Demolitionist and Offensive Bulwark and let me tell you, Controlled Demo + Echoes of Undermining, Remnants, & Expulsion + Vortex Grenades + Dragon's Breath is a thing of beauty. Everything explodes in Purple and Orange. Constantly. Echo of Starvation + Offensive Bulwark means I have grenades up really frequently, too. Twilight Arsenal is just the cherry on top. The only problem I have is that I need a couple more Artifact Mod Slots. Well, one for right now. I need Shieldcrush. Even more bonus melee damage and increased Melee Regen is rather nice. I guess Prismatic Transfer would be nice as well. As would Threaded Blast for when my teammates make a Tangle and ignore it because they're on Prismatic and Prismatic has little to no Tangle interaction.
Dragon's breath has so much more utility and versatility. Still hunt is very much just, you thing go away now and it takes two exotics to do it. Which is why I think it should have the highest single target DPS in the game
Really disappointed we didn't see still hunt w/out Celestial nor any testing with song of flame super making kinetic weapons do scorch.
Especially with how much he’s been playing warlock lately
Idk why but I like the way you do your content so much more than other like Rick and them I feel like playing and getting to learn from you would be actually fun
You know whats crazy, Aztecross didn't even have arc weapon surge with grand overture @ 20:35, that shit could be crazy, the only issue would be ammo.
This is the best content that Aztecross makes. I could watch damage testing all day! Thank you!!!
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8:52 time stamp whoa buddy! In a work call and I forgot to turn off volume on my phone, I hit play and Cross says "...blow my load". Now I'm here showing co workers about the video I was referring to. 😅
Was cool tuning into this live - keep these style of videos up! It’s great stuff!
I really love these videos. So helpful in honestly assessing how much the mods affect different weapons.
Never even thought about grand overure + haz propulsion. Time to log into the titan again 🤭
I think the numbers for still hunt in a longer damage phase can be pumped even more, by stacking the artifact mod first THEN using the celestial shot
I was drowning in eggys from all those gambas (darci believer)
Sorry. Im 6 beers in and having trouble figuring out what you said
That sounds oddly British breakfasty
I think you can increase the dmg a lot if you use one holster mod at least so you don't have to reload that last shot and when you activate still hunts super it refills your mag
One sniper you missed though. Twilight Oath with envious and precision instrument. It's a rapid fire and you can dump pretty much the entire mag
When Cross says 'KEEP EVERYTHING"
Or distant tumulus with clown + firing line
Finally started testing with Ikelos only had to comment once. Good job
We need a video like this but for swords and shotguns, basically any close range weapon
Man D.A.R.C.I., as the smart rifle needs two things, its damage to stack as long as you keep hitting crits on the same target (a la Precision Instrument, but without that harsh of a time penalty between shots) and then last shot to be refunded as long as Personal Assistant (and that stacking x6 damage buff) is active.
So, it has 7 in the mag, you shoot the first 6 to stack, the 7th refreshes the damage buff and keeps reloading itself as long as you keep it on target.
Without any touching to its damage numbers I bet it'd become at least viable.
I also want it to buff all surrounding non exotic snipers like how gjallarhorn gives Wolfpack rounds to non exotic rocket launchers
I don't know if you noticed but in your damage testing. The ignitions weren't going off every 3 shots. It was actually going off when you hit the 4th one. Not sure if it's a delay or a glitch. 6:40 when you were doing the damage testing for Ikelos
It's the ignition animation. You can only start to build up to the next ignition if the previous one did its damage. This results in rapid fire snipers to ignite every 5th shot after the first ignition and all others on the 4th shot.
Still hunt is still going to be crazy because you can use a rocket with it
im so happy whisper is back good old times reminds of d1 black hammer but with no infinite ammo
If Darci had rewind with vorpal or something, it would be better
For that Ergo Sum test, you should try it again but with a caster frame. The lingering damage procs perfect fifth so you can use it from a distance like the sniper rifles.
cross, try the healthbar dps tester, youll see different numbers that are a bit more accurate up to 15% sometimes
surprised we haven't seen more Songs of Flame added on here for Damage testing.
Just a fyi, you can get an ignition within 2 shots via song of flame
I was hoping to see Euphony tested here as well
Whisper is hella consistent which is the best thing about it, you put up a div bubble and have everyone on it itll be amazing
Crouching lessons the flinch because it grants very small stability to weapons, or maybe not. Idk lol. I just know it helps with recoil/stability utility at least
The Widows Bite that Banshee sold this week, (PULSE MONITOR, DEMOLITIONIST), is a fking lit roll that allows constant shooting and or full blowing of thy load(sit in a rift or healing turret under semi-heavy fire, grenade as spice)
I live for the damage test vids. Thanks man!
Nice to see thunder lord is still number 1
cross is in denial about darci and im here for it lmao
Whisper is better because all classes can use it. Still hunt needs celestial
Eh, not strictly. For example you can't really use whisper on witness due to the jump req, and still hunt is still crazy on all classes.
@@ianmills6260 it's not as good as whisper on all classes
@lorddamien999 yeah, but whisper is less flexible. That's what I'm saying
@@ianmills6260 ive never done the fight, cant you just short hop? Remember, they buffed whispers in air accuracy stat a while back
@DanielMorales-jm3ll short hop timing is harder. It's also harder to dodge while scoped, and you have to scope to keep whispered breathing up. If you are on heat rises you could definitely use whisper though
Beast Man's D.A.R.C.I. build is gonna go brazy this season
Ergo Sum variations damage test would be a good vid.
Aegis put out a pretty good one. Though the new numbers would be nice with the artifact mods.
You should have tested still hunt without nighthawk, the way the numbers ramp with the sniper buff might be interesting to see, especially with the nerf coming to still/hawk interaction.
As a Hunter main I’m sticking with StillHunt over Whisper. Still Hunt ease of use is way higher. The moment you miss with Whisper your damage is thrown off. The other thing is…SH is SPECIAL ammo! Way easier to get special than heavy ammo.
You gotta get a Twilight Oath envoius assassin precision instrument its crazy
I run envious/vorpal. Haven't gotten a envious/precision but I'm looking for one for when someone is running Div
@@austinlizarraga4165 I also have vorpal.
Bro I got an adept wildstyle yesterday with recon/incandescent so I enhanced them and slapped on ember of char and eruption and the ignitions are insane! The reloads happen so quick you barely have to stow it.
I got enlightened action/incandescent and it felt nice.
@@muzak313 yeah enlightened with a solar loader mod would be pretty nice!
Still Hunt on Hunter, Whisper on Titan and Warlock is what I'm gathering for this season
Guys did you know that each solar sniper takes four shots for an ignition. With ember of ashes though it takes 3. This makes rapid fires better. But remember there's a lot of things happening to help this. In case you missed it in the video!
Would've been nice to see Levi with expanding abyss since he used the solar mods for snipers. A void sniper with expanding and meditation would've been nice to see too.
Test void snipers with expanding abyss and sniper's meditation on a weakened Target
Guess they'll have to wait till the weekend then for the target lol.
These videos are super helpful to know what to use thank you!
Hey cross (and possible other dps testers) i got a question real quick: Why not use Rain of Fire warlock to test the dps of the weapons?
Far as i know, it reloads all equipped weapons in virtually the same time window as hunter dodge but with an abismally shorter cooldown in the form of icarus dash. So why not that?
I’ve always thought this too
My guess is cuz although Hunter dodge is longer it doesn’t eat up that exotic slot
And also is on all subclasses while rain requires too much
Ie solar subclass and Icarus aspect
Which replaces some of the better aspect and or subclasses like strand or void
But it would be nice to see more use out of it in dps phases but other things seems to be more viable
I think cross generally goes for the least setup possible. He mostly compares weapon damage (sometimes with passive buffs from exotics) rather than comparing rotations, which is what ROF really leans into. He also tests within like a 8 second damage phase, so ROF isn’t gonna make a huge difference there. If you want
ROF accounted for check Aegis on youtube for his spreadsheet, it’s crazy in depth
It is considered in testing from Aegis; he tests as many combinations as possible so you can check out the difference with and without certain exotics
Song of Flame gives your Solar and Kinetic weapons scorching ammo. I'd be interested to see what numbers Supremacy does with Dawn Chorus in that combination. Pop Song of Flame, don't use the super but use Supremacy. It would easily last the duration of that damage phase too
Ikelos and no twilight oath is criminal. You can get vorpal, clown, precision instrument on it.
Just waiting for darci buff
Would like to see Euphony on strand warlock for this as well
levi's breath can do insane damage paired with spirit of eternal warrior and twilight arsenal. i often get 6-7 mill on witness doing it
stasis hunter would prob benefit any non solar sniper more than a solar subclass in terms of reloading. you get 2-3 shurikans and each can reloadd your sniper when it hits a target
Borealis cooked when it was a heavy. The exotic buff used to give 100% dmg bonus and if you reloaded it with hunter dodge or had ahamkara you could keep it for the full mag.
True. Maybe solar tuned Borealis could be fun.
The problem is. Still hunt is good for nearly everything. And Templar is a very rare ideal scenario for whisper to actually excel.
In aegis’ spreadsheet it says if you proc Darci’s perk on every hit and you reload perfectly etc it can technically out Dps whisper
I gotta see that.
@@muzak313 same Bro, all theoretical numbers ofc, but optimal dps swaps are way beyond my capabilities 😂🤦♂️
@@Mogs_HD I hear you. Just staying alive during Witness DPS is hard enough.
@@muzak313 yeah totally get you
I’d like to see if the weaken effect from deterministic will give the fireteam more overall damage. Like run three thunder lords then have one switch to deterministic and see which run had more damage.
Song of flame with a dragons breath and supremacy with bait and rewind is criminal
Plus dawn chorus
Gonna depend on the nature of the damage phase. Templar is all well and good, but post-Still Hunt nerf, in a longer damage phase where you blow your whole load, would you rather have to follow up with heavy or follow up Whisper with special? I’d guess heavy.
Great video. Thanks Cross
Did 5.2 million damage the other day with Getaway Artist build, Nova Bomb, edge transit, riptide, and graviton its so cracked I hope they don't nerf it.
For anyone who just skipped to the numbers, hes not testing still hunt with apex, hes not on prismatic, hes not animation cancelling, hes just testing raw still hunt damage
I would have liked to see Embraced Identity with Expanding Abyss and Sniper's Meditation together. Not that its going to be meta, but to give every possible damage it can get.
It would be really cool to see a fire team test with deterministic chaos Vs divinity for the weaken debuff which would be 25% because of the artifact mod if the rest of the fire team use void weapons like leviathans breath
Whisper doesn't need to crutch on Nighthawk 😆
In all honesty, just those numbers from one weapon is crazy! Then you add everything else you got
I love watching these dps videos
after the upcoming celestial nerfs, the total damage shunt will do will be around 1,175,675 (based on your best run), with shunt doing around 400k dmg per hit instead of 540k
Great video!, but I would have added one go with Still Hunt rotation but on Warlock or Titan (+rocket probably). How good is Still Hunt compared to Whisper when used in one of those classes? (I imagine it might be worse, but by how much).
You should get a banner shield when damage testing to prevent flinch
Still hunt and whisper will be TIED in dmg if you take celestial OFF, because once the nerf hits, celestial will only be hurting still hunts dmg by keeping it on
A Still Hunt without Celestial would've been good to see
Also when you dodge that takes time to reload still hunt but whisper you don’t have to so in a realistic damage phase whisper will be better and you can you don’t have to use celestial for it
I would’ve loved to see Outbreak with Song of Flame and Solar Fulmination…
Can you test out Full court at Witness? Cascade point/ Full court and still hunt might be disgusting. Extra benifit is if you die you still get the 25% damage buff instead of losing your explosive light stacks or having to reset BnS. You’d also benifit from the fragment that gives you more damage to a darkness debuffed target and the artifact mod that allows extra damage from void to weakened targets and if you have a eternal warrier class item you get a 25% damage buff there as well. Might be worth looking into.
So whisper meta is on the horizon again
Whisper on warlock with either Dawn Chorus or Rain of Fire might challenge or surpass Still Hunt
Xenophage has been so fun with added scorch
should try last foray with envious assassin - focused fury, probably not the best but if you don't have ikelos and need a solar special sniper it works pretty good.
Edit: twilight oath is solar and gets envious - precision interment
The rapid fire legendaries have the best DPS among legendaries. I think he just included Uzume for archetype comparison sake.
Song of flame lets you ignite in two sniper shots
Should have done one that applied to non-hunters with still hunt. Would be interesting to see how worth it it would have been without celestial
I use whisper and Ikelos Sniper with enhanced Incandescent and enhanced Overflow.....absolutely destroys everything lol.
I know the main focus was snipers, but it's a shame you didn't throw in Microcosm, because that or Levvys breath is the go to for non-hunters against the Witness, so it be great to see if Whisper is worth taking over that now especially as the ammo economy might be better.
You should have tried Bastion with its damage buff, I've been using it with a Synthoceps, Necrotic Song of Flame Warlock. I think it could have done somewhat decent
Cross using Ikelos sniper on solar while, he uses Cloudstrike on solar, you'll get more damage on arc sub class.
Kinda wish you would've tested on prismatic versus on solar, since they are pretty close
For the last couple of void weapons you didn’t add the artifact mod expanding abyss
As I heard from another content creator, hazardous propulsion are titán"s Lucky pants
1k voices cat should be that season of splicer mod for fusions and linears like the damage stays the same but buffs other fusion like ghally does rockets
Man's a true scientist
Hazardous Propulsion buffs do not apply if the Grand Overture is 10 shots
but it applies when it's 20 shots
did you know?
awesome video
I wonder if they will add an exotic for maybe Titans that massively improves the damage done by jolt procs