THE ultimate VESPA TIMINGS guide | OPTIMIZING intake & cyl | FMP-Solid PASSion |

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024

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  • @auliarahman7820
    @auliarahman7820 5 років тому +2

    man, u r so detail!

  • @confusedmonk1754
    @confusedmonk1754 3 роки тому

    THIS IS GOLD! You Sir, deserve some Belgian beers!

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому

      😃👍 warning: i may gonna collect them. Next time i am in brussels on a business trip 😉 🍻

    • @confusedmonk1754
      @confusedmonk1754 3 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 make sure to let me know, we'll work something out!

  • @DJD8RR
    @DJD8RR 4 роки тому

    😊👌
    Profesor....
    👏😊
    Bravo, la Vespa PX no tiene secretos para ti ...
    👍

  • @adeirawan319
    @adeirawan319 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks, mates. Learn a lot from you.

  • @jocco225
    @jocco225 5 років тому +3

    Its like you are reading my mind, I'm just fitting a 57mm mazzu crank to my malossi166 and this video came in perfect time.
    One question, do I need to cut my mazzu crank to extend the closing time to 70 or can I cut the rotary valve on the case?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому +1

      Maximum at intake, rest at the crank. Also use space to the back the extend the intake timing

  • @SyukorRohani
    @SyukorRohani Рік тому +1

    hi sirr.. where can i get timings tables for english version

  • @chanelmonellamotorbyedybng2925
    @chanelmonellamotorbyedybng2925 3 роки тому +1

    💓vespa indonrsia, mr

  • @3FEET-
    @3FEET- 3 роки тому +1

    Hey sir, i have a question about 5:47 how did you convert from mm to degree° ?
    you really help me understand a lot of thing & i appreciate your effort explaining all this, thanks !
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ps : im working on piaggio ciao / si / bravo ( rotary valve )
    My problem is i adjusted the gasket below the cylindre, because when the piston is at BDC ( ports was not fully open ), so i add 1.5mm to fix it, now the ports are fully open, but the timing is bad, after i turned the engine on, he went crazy idle & hole in acceleration, i knew it's coming from the gaskets that i add below the cylindre. now im trying to fix, i did a lot of research, im still learning but i want to be accurate.
    here's some info's if you cound give advise or help and thanks again.
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    ( PIAGGIO CIAO ROTARY VALVE )
    inlet open : 112°
    inlet close : 53°
    total inlet : 165°
    conecting rod : 78mm
    stroke : 43mm
    pbt : 3mm
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ( TEST 01 Gasket 1.5mm below cylindre )
    Exhaust port duration : 103° - 257° = 154°
    Transfert port duration : 118° - 241° = 123°
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ( ORIGINAL GASKET 0.1 very thin gasket - ports cylindre not fully open at BDC )
    exhaust port duration : 102° - 249° = 147°
    transfert port duration : 121° - 235° = 114°

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  3 роки тому +1

      thx. Opening ports is overrated, timings are more important las u just experienced.
      Better use an online calculator, there are plenty, ie this one:
      ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php

    • @3FEET-
      @3FEET- 3 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 thanks 🙏 for the reply sir, So I have to use the cylinder timing to get the the right crankcase intake timing and website you sent me will help me get that timing i guess.

  • @mangkoes
    @mangkoes 3 роки тому +1

    Herr Moped, I'm still confused why you add another scratch mark on the closing time?
    What was that for?

  • @worldcollections2839
    @worldcollections2839 4 роки тому

    for a person understands how to adjust ignition timing on 4T Scooter : it is really veryhard to understand how to adjust timing on Vespa or scooter that has no valves .. but I try to understand ..

  • @trihayyumajiida5303
    @trihayyumajiida5303 Рік тому +1

    Why raising cylinder does not change the pbt measurement?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  Рік тому

      oi it does. did i say / show something else? pls give me the min & sec of the vid
      the value u raise the cylinder is added to the PBT

  • @Bob-lv1dz
    @Bob-lv1dz 2 місяці тому +1

    nice vid. are you still active in this world? cant find that tool anywhere.

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  2 місяці тому

      i am. which tool?
      www.ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php
      www.race-base.com/2t-tools/steuerzeit

    • @Bob-lv1dz
      @Bob-lv1dz Місяць тому

      @FreakMoPed8 👊thanks boss. you have a Web page for your place in vienna?

  • @revanantyo
    @revanantyo 5 років тому +2

    Any idea for malossi 166 mk3 timing? Need to optimize my current setup

  • @vuhoang594
    @vuhoang594 3 роки тому

    thank u so much

  • @antoniomarto8742
    @antoniomarto8742 Рік тому

    Can't understand the logic of 112+45=157degrees. If it starts open when piston is at 43.1mm from the top cyl which is 112degrees and closes at 10mm from top cyl which is 45degrees, then the oppening time shouldn't be de difference between open to close which in my mind is 112-45=67degrees? This is freaking out my mind and can't understand where i'm thinking wrong here :)

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  Рік тому

      look at the graph, ie here:
      ddog.at/stz/rechnen.php

  • @DZ-jh5cl
    @DZ-jh5cl 4 роки тому +1

    Hi,,how to optimize the reed valve timing?

  • @habanadecuba9746
    @habanadecuba9746 5 років тому +1

    kann man nach diesen Modifikationen noch den original Zylinder verwenden oder sind diese dann nur noch mit dem tuningzylinder kompatibel? Gruss

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  5 років тому

      verlängerte einlasszeit mit dem originalen zylinder macht wenig sinn, man muesste ihm zumindest den vorauslass vergrößern, dann sollte das halbwegs funktionieren. Anpassungen am block sind egal, der 200er hat eh nur 2 fake ports, 125/150 mit echten ports macht auch nichts, hats halt ein paar mehr toträume

  • @museic17
    @museic17 Рік тому +1

    What does blow down mean?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  Рік тому

      ex port minus transfers divided by 2

  • @afiqghafor8166
    @afiqghafor8166 3 роки тому +1

    what cylinder it is?

  • @أكرمزين-ص6ر
    @أكرمزين-ص6ر Рік тому

    كم هي كمية الزيت المطلوبه داخل المطور الثنائي 150cc

  • @phuongrose1917
    @phuongrose1917 2 роки тому

    Thanks for your master tutorial, i also how did you convert from mm to degree° ? I want to know may i looking for download datatable about strock relationship with degree (60mm.....57mm to ....degree). Have any formular? Help me! and Thanks again!

  • @rclavier
    @rclavier 5 років тому +1

    you make the 8th day....to repare la Vespa...!

  • @MRT92LXR
    @MRT92LXR 4 роки тому

    Based on your experience, what rotary pad times do you recommend for a malossi sport 221? The engine has also a polini box and pinasco 26 SI.

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому +1

      You nees forst of all 0,05mm toleramce, than you can go up to 200, with exhaustbooet widening it will peak Up to 25hp. I prefer openining intale to the back max, to the front original. But 0,05mm is the most important thing, if not provided, also short timings will cause blowback and engine will never work normally

    • @MRT92LXR
      @MRT92LXR 4 роки тому

      @@FreakMoPed8 when you say to the back, are you referring to BTDC?

    • @FreakMoPed8
      @FreakMoPed8  4 роки тому +1

      looking at crank, to the LEFT
      away from the cylinder

  • @handyman7297
    @handyman7297 3 роки тому

    i watch the hole video and didnt understand anything but still i think you know too much about vespas