I did this when doing the final finish on my outdoor bar top. I had seen videos and tips suggesting using blowtorch heat over the top of the final layer of coating to ensure no bubbles and that it was nice and glass smooth. In all of that advice, they were doing an epoxy top. I was using gloss spar urethane......yeah. by some miracle the whole surface didn't ignite, or I would've probably cried. Had already done 8 coats. I felt like such an idiot afterwards. Thankfully turned out okay!
As a welder, playing with fire and electricity is an occupational hazard. though in my case, often when a fire like that erupts, it's due to being forced to work on something covered in wet paint or grease (factory fresh steel is notorious for this). Often to put it out, I'll just take a welding glove off and use it like you did that board at the end. Once I'm sure the fire's out, glove goes back on and I go back to welding. Funniest and worst thing I've set on fire was a cloud of dust from easily 30 years of build up, falling on to me as I held a lit Oxy-Fuel torch in-hand. Instantly in the center of a large fireball for about 3 seconds. Smacked the fire still on my sleeve out and went right back to cutting.
I've now watched both of Tamar's (3x3 Custom) attempts and I appreciate her tenacity and willingness to push on and keep trying. The things that I believe made your attempt somewhat more successful are the choice of truly heavy duty strapping attached to each slat AND the choice of a full 18 inches of contact area so that the very large forces are distributed over more surface area.
I also think that because in this chair the strap is attached to every wooden piece, the stretching is limited versus Tamar's, which is only attached at both ends
Very cool. I feel like you glossed over the hardest part - determining what angles to put where, and translating those needed angles to the cuts on the pieces.
I've watched both of her attempts and like yours, the process teaches loads. Nothing wrong with things not coming out just the way you imagined. She learned a lot. You took some of her learnings and progressed and learned some other things. That's how you get to mastery. Congratulations on a nice build..
I commend you for seeing this project through completely and having it function properly. Even though you really didnt like the finished look, I bet you learned a thing or two and that is very valuable! Keep up the good work brother!
I am so happy to finally see one of these chairs work I watch both of 3x3 videos and now I found this one. It may seem unreasonable but ever since I saw her first attempt at the chair I have thought about it almost every day it's just such a cool concept. Good job at figuring it out!
I love the finish, looks like something you would find all the way back in a shed tucked behind all the old bicycles under a pile of dried out cracked up tarpaper felt, that nobody really knows what it's for, but they kept it anyways because they faintly remember that it was made by your grandfather, and when you roll it out and find out what it is you feel an immense sense of wonder, and just a bit more sadness because you couldn't have known him.
As a professional cabinetmaker who did the tradeschool route: you're absolutely brilliant for solving the mechanical structure of this design and that's one of the most important parts of this enterprise. However, your finishing process needs a lot of work and I can't stress this enough: test whatever you're going for on scrap material first to prevent stressful mishaps like this. A simple sand, maybe an oil based stain, then a coat of matte poly would have done more than enough. Kinda winced when you pulled out the angle grinder. I know the pressure of making videos is something else entirely and everything costs money, but, if you put a bit more thought and planning into it these projects could actually be profitable on their own. Making this thing out of solid wood with a nice finish and a proper strapping material (and decorative screws) would actually be worth a fair bit of money and might sell as a concept, definitely as a brilliant one off piece by a cherished content creator.
Man, what a fun video and project. Experimenting doesn't always go as planned, and you came out with a functional piece and lessons learned - I call that a dub.
I saw Tamar's attempts and didn't see them as failures, you Sir, have taken is to zen level, you all should collaborate but not just with furniture, I can actually see a tunnel building/emergency shelter or something, based on this design concept, cheers!
I’ve watched both of 3x3’s videos and loved the concept. Great solution to this chair and well done! Call that one a prototype, forget about the wacky finish and make it again with some nice hardwoods and it’ll be a showstopper no doubt.
At least you can say you tried. LOL. I sat here shaking my head as I watched you with the angle grinder, but you worked out ideas and learned from everything, including your mistakes. I use the phrase, "I'll make it look pretty later," when working out software problems. Get the logic and functionality to work first. It can be made to look any way you want at another time.
Fantastic problem solving skills! And very creative filming and editing. I think a lot of us are fans of 3x3 Custom and are a little jealous that you cracked the engineering problem ahead of us! A far as the the aesthetics are concerned, just call it a "prototype" like everyone else does. That's code for "I made a bunch of mistakes the first time."
What bad things could we say in the comments? You took a problem, worked it and came up with a viable solution. I know people twice your age that can't do that. As far as the fire well you learned something new. Nice job, thanks.
Woah. First time I've seen someone wearing a respirator and ear protection dealing with wood. I've been a carpenter for 20 years. Never seen a man wear that.
Nice job. The interlocking panels prevented slippage between them giving the design structural strength. And the towing straps have greater tensile strength because they are made to perform under greater loads without failing. The chair still had some flex but not to the point of failing.
Tamar is an incredibly creative and accomplished woodworker. You are in the same league. While I don't see the need for such a chair, it was fun watching the process. You both share your mistakes as well as your successes. That takes courage and humility. Bless you for that. Keep up the good work.
Oh man haha nice work Josh. That last bit was hilarious shows what can happen when you just get in a groove and don't think. Anyone could've done that haha. You and Tamar should collaborate on the final design. You can engineer it and make it functional and she can make it look nice haha
This is so honest and so funny! The thing that makes this video so good is listening to you critique yourself...we don't have to say anything! Still "thumb up!" Josh loves a challenge!
Awesome work! Like your self I tend to experiment with finishes, my problem is that I try it on customers projects 😅 sometimes it's an abomination to say the least and I have to sand and refinish but at the end of the day I've learned tons of new techniques, what works, what doesn't, which finishes, combinations etc... never stop exploring !
Dude! Another awesome build! I would like to see how you design these projects. I'm very jealous of your talent. I also really liked the video editing at the tablesaw.
In several of Tamar's videos, she goes further into the details of how her projects are built. She takes great care to ensure her projects look good, functional, and safe for family use. These explained details allows for greater video enjoyment and authenticity of the tasks she is performing. An in depth video of the angles and design process on your part would be appreciated. Additionally, making it look good and child friendly sounds like an acceptable challenge for you.
The biggest difference is in her videos she edits them to show case her personality. She also happens to have a personality that effortlessly lets her inner voice out. In the 3 videos I’ve watched of hers I can tell you, she has a dog, she has a big heart for animals, she has children, all though she prefers function over form she will not sacrifice aesthetic’s, she prioritizes safety while finding bravery to leave her comfort zone to learn new skills, she is bubbly and fun but can also probably be overbearing at times in real life. Finally she is someone that should never ever be offered caffeine or any stimulant. I really couldn’t tell you anything about this guy other than he made a rolling chair that worked and owns a fire extinguisher he’s reluctant to use.
I said this on her newest video, and I know you made an updated version of this that I just watched too, but here is an idea I think might work with the original design. You can't cut the pieces to match the desired chair's shape when no one is sitting on it. If it were solid wood strips, or metal, or plastic, you'd expect its unstressed shape to be less "ergonomic" than when you apply a force to it (i.e. weight) so that it could come to rest in the stressed mode in the desired shape, unless it was curvy but still stupidly stiff solid that sitting on it would bring no visible deformation. Same thing here. There are basically two forces you're fighting here. On the front, you have tension/stretching forces. That is what the straps/fabric/flexy thingy on the front is resisting (ropes, straps, chains, cables they only do resisting in tension). So far so good. But on the back, there are compression forces. On a solid bendy wood design, short story, the stiffness and mass of the material would be resisting that (actually both forces). On this design, you're compensating for that with the locking shapes. But on the original 3x3 Customs made and I guess the one you made, the pieces are already cut to match the stressed configuration even on the unstressed configuration, meaning there is nothing to resist those forces before this point. No bueno. So you have to cut shallower angles, so that the unstressed shape will be like your two models are when unstressed (i.e. visibly not as ergonomic, with curves less accentuated than when you are sitting), because all you have to help you combat the compression forces will be geometry. Different note: the only way I know to salvage this one's finish would be to prime and paint it with something that in enough coats is completely opaque and hides the grain beneath. Give a wet sand between coats to level it off and make each layer smooth, and it should hide all the veneer breaching sins just fine. Plus, with the right paint it will be water resistant and make it more durable for outdoor use, and easier to clean. Win win imo.
Wow! You out did Tamar?? She's a super star! Well done sir! I I like that you show things that don't go as planned. Makes me sure you are human and not an android!
You should get yourself some EZ fire spray I keep some in the kitchen and my shop for “non-emergency” fires. You’re supposed toss the can after one used but I’ve solved three separate fires with a single can and didn’t have to feel bad about using up my actual fire extinguishers. Stuff would’ve been perfect for your little ‘incident’.
Could always rubber spray the strap first, then spray adhesive on the other side to put it on the wood. Personally i think the plywoods probably fine. A little Danish oil treatment on the plywood and a mat black edge from the strap with silver screws probably would look nice.
Good job overall. There are some audio leveling issues between your commentary, and the camera audio in the shop and then outside. Makes it really hard to understand without cranking up the volume. Oh, and get a cheap CO2 extinguisher in your shop, they're also cheap to get refilled and usually have a pressure gauge to show you that it's still okay. Your instinct to blow on the fire shows you don't have anything in the case you need to put out a real fire.
OK, this is kinda funny. I just watch 3x3's 2nd video and left a comment suggesting tow straps from Dynatow, and now I watch this and see something that looks a lot like 2 Dynatow straps. Also, thank you for the chuckle at the end. Who hasn't accidentally set something on fire?
The moment of panic understood by anyone who's ever used fire to solve a small problem and nearly burned down their house....
No because im a fire expert
Dude I nearly burned my house down with a White Castle microwaveable cheese burger.
Murder is never a solution. 🌈
I did this when doing the final finish on my outdoor bar top. I had seen videos and tips suggesting using blowtorch heat over the top of the final layer of coating to ensure no bubbles and that it was nice and glass smooth. In all of that advice, they were doing an epoxy top.
I was using gloss spar urethane......yeah. by some miracle the whole surface didn't ignite, or I would've probably cried. Had already done 8 coats. I felt like such an idiot afterwards.
Thankfully turned out okay!
As a welder, playing with fire and electricity is an occupational hazard. though in my case, often when a fire like that erupts, it's due to being forced to work on something covered in wet paint or grease (factory fresh steel is notorious for this). Often to put it out, I'll just take a welding glove off and use it like you did that board at the end. Once I'm sure the fire's out, glove goes back on and I go back to welding.
Funniest and worst thing I've set on fire was a cloud of dust from easily 30 years of build up, falling on to me as I held a lit Oxy-Fuel torch in-hand. Instantly in the center of a large fireball for about 3 seconds. Smacked the fire still on my sleeve out and went right back to cutting.
I've now watched both of Tamar's (3x3 Custom) attempts and I appreciate her tenacity and willingness to push on and keep trying. The things that I believe made your attempt somewhat more successful are the choice of truly heavy duty strapping attached to each slat AND the choice of a full 18 inches of contact area so that the very large forces are distributed over more surface area.
Also using an old strap that has stretched to it's limit already.
The diference is not the strap. Is the use of the interlocking system. A strong rope would also kep this together.
I also think that because in this chair the strap is attached to every wooden piece, the stretching is limited versus Tamar's, which is only attached at both ends
@@MAXQ14 hers was not only attached at the ends
@@Jerickson788 It still wasn't attached to all pieces...
Prototypes are never failures. You learned so much creating and so did I. Great job!
People tend to forget iteration is the part of the invention process after having an idea.
There's an abortion joke here somewhere
Best part of the whole video is the last 15 secs…
🤣
I bet that smelled nice!
Damn, beat me to it
I’m 37 and I still find myself doing all these same things - overlooking something simple, then heading down a continual path of doom.
@@davidswanson5669 I’m 55 and all I can say to you is… get used to that 🤪
Very cool. I feel like you glossed over the hardest part - determining what angles to put where, and translating those needed angles to the cuts on the pieces.
I've watched both of her attempts and like yours, the process teaches loads. Nothing wrong with things not coming out just the way you imagined. She learned a lot. You took some of her learnings and progressed and learned some other things. That's how you get to mastery. Congratulations on a nice build..
Great call on the Towing strap since they are designed not to stretch when pulling a car (and fireproof also :-)
You are the next victim of the roll-up chair curse! It strikes the best of us down.
when all else fails, paint it blue, that’s my motto
The guy put out the fire with wood. Thats my men.
Blooper reels are fun. The main point was the concept of a roll-up chair, which you accomplished very well. Congratulations!
I commend you for seeing this project through completely and having it function properly. Even though you really didnt like the finished look, I bet you learned a thing or two and that is very valuable! Keep up the good work brother!
LOL that ending. Thanks for sharing and being real.
I am so happy to finally see one of these chairs work I watch both of 3x3 videos and now I found this one. It may seem unreasonable but ever since I saw her first attempt at the chair I have thought about it almost every day it's just such a cool concept. Good job at figuring it out!
The fact is you attempted to solve the problem and got a certain amount of success. No problem can be solved without trying. Thanks for sharing.
I love the finish, looks like something you would find all the way back in a shed tucked behind all the old bicycles under a pile of dried out cracked up tarpaper felt, that nobody really knows what it's for, but they kept it anyways because they faintly remember that it was made by your grandfather, and when you roll it out and find out what it is you feel an immense sense of wonder, and just a bit more sadness because you couldn't have known him.
I'm sure Tamar would like to see this. You should share it with her. It's nice to see young people working hard. Keep up the good work
As a professional cabinetmaker who did the tradeschool route: you're absolutely brilliant for solving the mechanical structure of this design and that's one of the most important parts of this enterprise. However, your finishing process needs a lot of work and I can't stress this enough: test whatever you're going for on scrap material first to prevent stressful mishaps like this.
A simple sand, maybe an oil based stain, then a coat of matte poly would have done more than enough. Kinda winced when you pulled out the angle grinder.
I know the pressure of making videos is something else entirely and everything costs money, but, if you put a bit more thought and planning into it these projects could actually be profitable on their own. Making this thing out of solid wood with a nice finish and a proper strapping material (and decorative screws) would actually be worth a fair bit of money and might sell as a concept, definitely as a brilliant one off piece by a cherished content creator.
I think the design makes up for the finish! You should be proud of how cool it looks just by itself!
Thumbs up for the blooper at the end. glad you're safe.
Man, what a fun video and project. Experimenting doesn't always go as planned, and you came out with a functional piece and lessons learned - I call that a dub.
Not a failure, you learned and it worked! Good job
I saw Tamar's attempts and didn't see them as failures, you Sir, have taken is to zen level, you all should collaborate but not just with furniture, I can actually see a tunnel building/emergency shelter or something, based on this design concept, cheers!
Why would ANYONE want a collapsible BOMB SHELTER?!?
lol.... It's kind of funny to picture though....
I’ve watched both of 3x3’s videos and loved the concept. Great solution to this chair and well done! Call that one a prototype, forget about the wacky finish and make it again with some nice hardwoods and it’ll be a showstopper no doubt.
Lets get this thing viral
At least you can say you tried. LOL. I sat here shaking my head as I watched you with the angle grinder, but you worked out ideas and learned from everything, including your mistakes. I use the phrase, "I'll make it look pretty later," when working out software problems. Get the logic and functionality to work first. It can be made to look any way you want at another time.
Oh awesome the sound level just popped up. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You genius
Dude your honesty is all time. One of my favorite and funniest videos of yours!
I can't believe how viral this chair has become.
there´s nothing like beating a fire with a piece of wood :D
I hope someone tagged 3x3 Custom in this!
solid wood, bore holes, steel cable, tensioners with big handles at at the top.
Love your honesty....Learnt alot from your attempt.
Fantastic problem solving skills! And very creative filming and editing. I think a lot of us are fans of 3x3 Custom and are a little jealous that you cracked the engineering problem ahead of us!
A far as the the aesthetics are concerned, just call it a "prototype" like everyone else does. That's code for "I made a bunch of mistakes the first time."
What bad things could we say in the comments? You took a problem, worked it and came up with a viable solution. I know people twice your age that can't do that. As far as the fire well you learned something new. Nice job, thanks.
The Best when you Clip your fingers in this Awww-some Cair! 😁
i like the S&M vibe, looks cool.
Paint the whole chair a solid color. Might be a better fit for the style.
love your solution, very elegant
I saw that video too and was so bummed that it didn't work out... Well done for making it work!!! The weird Z angles are a great idea
You are wise beyond your years. I look forward to seeing all of your projects.
Woah. First time I've seen someone wearing a respirator and ear protection dealing with wood. I've been a carpenter for 20 years. Never seen a man wear that.
Not dumb at all. I liked the concept a lot. cheers from Tasmania
Experimenting equals learning! Awesome job! Great blooper at the end. 😜
Great video love the outtake at the end🤣🤣🤣
Very cool.
Nice job. The interlocking panels prevented slippage between them giving the design structural strength. And the towing straps have greater tensile strength because they are made to perform under greater loads without failing. The chair still had some flex but not to the point of failing.
The chair saga continues
Tamar is an incredibly creative and accomplished woodworker. You are in the same league. While I don't see the need for such a chair, it was fun watching the process. You both share your mistakes as well as your successes. That takes courage and humility. Bless you for that. Keep up the good work.
For a prototype, your concept was flawless even if your execution required refinement. Looking forward to your next attempt.
Oh man haha nice work Josh. That last bit was hilarious shows what can happen when you just get in a groove and don't think. Anyone could've done that haha. You and Tamar should collaborate on the final design. You can engineer it and make it functional and she can make it look nice haha
Excellent prototype. Thanks.
Wonderful build. Really enjoy your videos .
DUDE! This is great... apart from the fire
Happy to see you could make the roll out chair a success!
well done for trying. Functionally it works.
Never thought it could be so strong.
i like that you show the flaws most dont
Great job!
Awesome job. We learn all the time. Now you know what not to do next time. Keep up the excellent work. Get an apron!
That was fantastic! Great job!
And by the way, it's not an ugly chair - think of it as an awesome chair with a bonus built in anti-theft device!
Wow this was an awesome build!!!! I hope this video goes viral for you!
This is so honest and so funny! The thing that makes this video so good is listening to you critique yourself...we don't have to say anything! Still "thumb up!" Josh loves a challenge!
How can this all of the sudden be so easy, while it was so hard for her?
Awesome work! Like your self I tend to experiment with finishes, my problem is that I try it on customers projects 😅 sometimes it's an abomination to say the least and I have to sand and refinish but at the end of the day I've learned tons of new techniques, what works, what doesn't, which finishes, combinations etc... never stop exploring !
Dude! Another awesome build! I would like to see how you design these projects. I'm very jealous of your talent. I also really liked the video editing at the tablesaw.
Welldone, man ! that was a great job :))))
You should do the base longer it will give it more stability when leaning back in the chair
When I liked the video it went from 5.9k to 6k. So cool
My favorite part was the fire
In several of Tamar's videos, she goes further into the details of how her projects are built. She takes great care to ensure her projects look good, functional, and safe for family use. These explained details allows for greater video enjoyment and authenticity of the tasks she is performing. An in depth video of the angles and design process on your part would be appreciated. Additionally, making it look good and child friendly sounds like an acceptable challenge for you.
The biggest difference is in her videos she edits them to show case her personality. She also happens to have a personality that effortlessly lets her inner voice out. In the 3 videos I’ve watched of hers I can tell you, she has a dog, she has a big heart for animals, she has children, all though she prefers function over form she will not sacrifice aesthetic’s, she prioritizes safety while finding bravery to leave her comfort zone to learn new skills, she is bubbly and fun but can also probably be overbearing at times in real life. Finally she is someone that should never ever be offered caffeine or any stimulant. I really couldn’t tell you anything about this guy other than he made a rolling chair that worked and owns a fire extinguisher he’s reluctant to use.
Awesome 🔥🔥🔥
So glad I watched till the very end!
hey rome wasn't built in a day . great job
Full sheet of plywood? Look at Mr. Monopoly over here...
I'm no fan of the finish either, but of the design, yes!! 💕❤💕
My right ear enjoyed this video.
Lol, my bad
Ooo if used solid wood,cured leather for strapping and iron nails. Could make a modern chair with medieval aesthetics
Use Baltic birch, it sands well.
I said this on her newest video, and I know you made an updated version of this that I just watched too, but here is an idea I think might work with the original design.
You can't cut the pieces to match the desired chair's shape when no one is sitting on it. If it were solid wood strips, or metal, or plastic, you'd expect its unstressed shape to be less "ergonomic" than when you apply a force to it (i.e. weight) so that it could come to rest in the stressed mode in the desired shape, unless it was curvy but still stupidly stiff solid that sitting on it would bring no visible deformation. Same thing here.
There are basically two forces you're fighting here. On the front, you have tension/stretching forces. That is what the straps/fabric/flexy thingy on the front is resisting (ropes, straps, chains, cables they only do resisting in tension). So far so good. But on the back, there are compression forces. On a solid bendy wood design, short story, the stiffness and mass of the material would be resisting that (actually both forces). On this design, you're compensating for that with the locking shapes. But on the original 3x3 Customs made and I guess the one you made, the pieces are already cut to match the stressed configuration even on the unstressed configuration, meaning there is nothing to resist those forces before this point. No bueno. So you have to cut shallower angles, so that the unstressed shape will be like your two models are when unstressed (i.e. visibly not as ergonomic, with curves less accentuated than when you are sitting), because all you have to help you combat the compression forces will be geometry.
Different note: the only way I know to salvage this one's finish would be to prime and paint it with something that in enough coats is completely opaque and hides the grain beneath. Give a wet sand between coats to level it off and make each layer smooth, and it should hide all the veneer breaching sins just fine. Plus, with the right paint it will be water resistant and make it more durable for outdoor use, and easier to clean. Win win imo.
This video was amazing haha, I loved everything about it! Rock on brother, def got a sub here
The video was good. That bit at the end was fantastic and hilarious. Thanks for including it lol.
LOL at 8:40, it caught me by surprise that it burst into flames like that.
Wow! You out did Tamar?? She's a super star! Well done sir! I I like that you show things that don't go as planned. Makes me sure you are human and not an android!
i would of used super thin cut fancy wood to cover the paint job. nice job getting the chair to work correctly.
XD the ending. Good job though.
Two heads are better than one ☺
Great engineering! I love a good problem being solved.
love the moment when he hits the fire with the lighter -- like what was the plan there?
You should get yourself some EZ fire spray I keep some in the kitchen and my shop for “non-emergency” fires. You’re supposed toss the can after one used but I’ve solved three separate fires with a single can and didn’t have to feel bad about using up my actual fire extinguishers. Stuff would’ve been perfect for your little ‘incident’.
Could always rubber spray the strap first, then spray adhesive on the other side to put it on the wood. Personally i think the plywoods probably fine. A little Danish oil treatment on the plywood and a mat black edge from the strap with silver screws probably would look nice.
It’s not a fail if you learned from it and you really learned it was possible to build. It looks and sits good in the dark anyway.
Good job overall. There are some audio leveling issues between your commentary, and the camera audio in the shop and then outside. Makes it really hard to understand without cranking up the volume. Oh, and get a cheap CO2 extinguisher in your shop, they're also cheap to get refilled and usually have a pressure gauge to show you that it's still okay. Your instinct to blow on the fire shows you don't have anything in the case you need to put out a real fire.
You killed it! So satisfying to watch this after the failures on that other person's channel
Nice job
That's ugly man!! Hahaha loved the way you just call it awful 🤣 😅 good you didn't set yourself up in flames
Damn good job pall
OK, this is kinda funny. I just watch 3x3's 2nd video and left a comment suggesting tow straps from Dynatow, and now I watch this and see something that looks a lot like 2 Dynatow straps.
Also, thank you for the chuckle at the end. Who hasn't accidentally set something on fire?
I want one of these painted like metal so that I can do the rancho relaxo taunt for an engie cosplay