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Helinox Chair Zero Field Review
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- There are five things about the Helinox Chair Zero I don't like - the reasons why I don't use it for hiking anymore.
I am in the transition from heavy weight backpacking/hiking to ultralight backpacking/hiking.
I hike here in Scandinavia were there is a tradition to use very heavy gear, because of the cold and inclement weather.
I am trying to change the tradition, and still be safe and comfortable.
Here is a list of some of the gear that I use, and can recommend:
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Hiking gear:
Tent: Big Agnes new 2020 Copper Spur HV UL3
Big Agnes (old model) Copper Spur HV UL2
Fjellraven Abisko Shape 3
Backpack: Zpacks Arc Haul
Packliner: Gossamer Gear Packliner
Quilt: Enlightened Equipment Revelation -6 and -12 celcius
Sleeping pad: Therm A Rest Neoair Xlite regular wide
Seat pad: Therm A Rest Z Seat
Waterfilter: Katadyn BeFree 0,6 L
Headlamp: Black Diamond ReVolt
Stove: Soto WindMaster Stove
Mug: Evernew Ti Mug Pot 500 ml and 900 ml
Spoon: Sea To Summit - Alpha Light
Clothes:
Rain jacket: Mont-Bell Versalite
Rain pants: OMM Kamleika Pants
Mid layer: Mont-Bell U.L. Thermawrap Parka
Rain mitts: OMM Kamleika Mitts
Down jacket: Mont-Bell Plasma 1000 Down Jacket
Hiking pants: Patagonia Quandary Pants
Shoe: Altra Lone Peak 4.5
Socks: Darn Tough Hiker Micro Crew
Camera gear:
Panasonic Lumix G80/85
Leica MFT 12mm f1.4
Laowa Compact Dreamer 7.5mm f2.0
NISI ND filter 1.5 - 5 stop and 5 - 9 stop
Røde VideoMicro - Microphone
Pedco Ultrapood ll Tripod
Zpacks Multi Pack - for caring it
Contact information - hanskirk@me.com
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Glad you gave your opinion, however most of your gripes are kinda ridiculous........ next time just bring a recliner chair that weighs 100lbs!
Hi Mateo ha ha that’s funny - thanks for your comment 😂
After years - if not decades - of refusing to use any camping furniture, I have now bought a Helinox replica and a matching folding table. But: I will not be using this furniture for hiking, but rather for bike and kayak tours, where a little extra weight doesn't hurt and in the evening you can set up a cozy camp, often with friends who have similar furniture, and then you can sit in a convivial group.
A floor which is connected to the chair legs mat helps to prevent you from sinking into the ground - I sewed one myself, and it only weighs a few grams.
That is the right conditions for using camp furnitures… we’re the weights don’t matter to much
I really appreciate my HCZ as it enables me to have a comfortable seat at 500grams.
I tried chair buddies and in the summer with reasonably firm ground they work well.
I decided that the best solution was the sand mat and I always carry that now as it works well in all sorts of soft ground situations and the beach.
If a break includes a brew then I put the water on which will take about 1:30 the same time to set the chair up.
Ha ha i guess that there is some work arounds, a beer always helps if you are frustrated ha ha. I also like the chair - but if I am out for a long hard hike I will not put up with the weight and the hassle 💁
Problem 1: this problem is with every similar chair. Your solution is great and adds hardly any weight.. Problem 2: it packs smaller than all similar chairs I have seem. Problem 3: It is lighter than all similar chairs I have seen. Problem 4: The thin feet are a real problem and a solution for it does ad some weight. Problem 5: Putting it up or taking it apart take a minute each. If you don't need the comfort of a real chair with a backsupport and only need a sitting mat , please don't compare your mat with a chair, just as you should nor compare travelling on foot with travelling by bike. Both are completely different things.
Hi Erik the reason for making this video was to give some info for new byers - all videos about this chair just love this product - some are mentioning the sinking problem... I really like this chair but I don't use it for longer hikes, where the weight matters a lot.
I often bring the chair when I will spend more time in the camp than on the trail.
Thanks for your feedback 💁🏕
Tak for videoen. En simpel løsning på at stolen synker: Læg dit siddeunderlag under stolens ben! Hilsen Morten
Hej Morten - godt tip det vil jeg prøve 😊
I chose a typical womans solution for the sink-in problem: I take 4 plastic lids of nut cans with me with 5 g each. Collect them afterwards and off I go. I hate sitting on the ground and putting my backpack on the ground in bad weather. When I have to take the backpack off to take something out I rather put it on my shoes than on the ground. The chair fits nicely into the vestibul of The One. Nevertheless I carry a
Hi Moviable very good tip - thanks for your feedback 😊
This seems to be the only honest UA-cam review of this chair. I'm a tennis player, how is that possible that I have to spend a minute and a half crouching down to set up a chair and then dismantle it afterward when I am tired and need to rest. The other UA-camr's reviews and 99% of their viewers' comments are really questionable. Buyer beware!
Hi thanks for your honest feedback
I had the XL version of this chair and added the ball feet. Weighed 1.5 kg and still sunk on most earth surfaces. I sold it on for much of what I paid for it. Been thinking recently of the chair Zero, but you've reminded me how poor it was in staying up. I'll give it miss. Thanks.
Hi Gary - glad that my video was helpful 😂
very good tip. This save weight. i like the chair, but now i use it only for car camping.
Hi Raymond - thanks for your response - nice chair for car camping 💁🏕
Mountainsmith Slingback Chair ( Pros ..144gr. strong..waterproof..just use your trekking poles.. on the back of the chair you can attache your foam sit mat.. Cons..a little bit slippery..but you can use one tent pegs on the front .. to keep it under tension ). For saving space..is best for me... for +2 days camping in the same place ..i've got my big agnes mica :)
Hi Anita -- thanks for the tip, there are many ways to sit comfortably in the great outdoors 💁
Like the review :) Good to see some objectivity.
Hi Kef9 thanks very much ⛺️😊
imo it's really just for hanging out around the fire at night with some buddies, I'd never get it out for a short break. Awesome for underneath a flying tarp too when you're taking your boots on and off before hopping in bed. I find it's also pretty sweet here in Australia where there are ticks and massive ants on the ground. The worst part of this chair is the shit stuff sack, you really don't wanna sit on this when its wet, I bought a waterproof DCF rolltop for it.
Hi Dave from Australia 🇦🇺 I guess you are enjoying the great outdoors… stay safe 😀
Skøn video, er helt enig med din vurdering af side underlaget , som også har den fordel at man kan udnytte landskabet.
Tak Lars ja det er et smart underlag 🤗🏕
Hans…..You got me thinking about what else I could bring instead of that chair….hahaha !!
Hello Jesus ha ha 😊
Here's a DIY sinking chair fix! Tarp + Gorilla Tape bathtub
ua-cam.com/video/olAcyHHSizM/v-deo.html
EDIT: Here's the construction video detailing how the bathtub was made:
ua-cam.com/video/OkcHnMhEwZs/v-deo.html
Nice trick - thanks Shoos
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 You're welcome! I've now since found the construction video that details how it was made. I'll be giving this a go.
ua-cam.com/video/OkcHnMhEwZs/v-deo.html
Thank you for your video of experiences of the Helinox, there is certainly some useful information / viewpoints in there for anyone thinking of buying one (in fact, any portable chair!)
Thanks for sharing! Have you ever thought about making a video about all your gear?
That could be a good idea - thanks for inspiring me 🏕😊
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 I'm a big fan of equipment videos! Anxious :)
Greetings from Brazil
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Very good review. What kind of phone mount u use on hiking pole?
Hi thanks 😊 Manfrotto PIXI Clamp - heavy but durable
Your last point was the best point.
Ha ha thanks 😊
Nice review! Out of curiosity, which backpack do you use?
Hi Enrico... thanks very much, your opinion mens a lot to me - the backpack is Zpacks Arc Haul, it is very light, and I like it 💁
Thank you, for the review.
The sit pad is a good idea. For sitting on, cold wet logs, or rocks.
I’m more interested, in where it’s from?
Hi Bill i am not sure - maybe a US company 😊
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 Hans, no problem, a lazy question. It looks like, an easy item, to improvise.
For me, these chairs hurt my neck. Id rather stand😂
Then you waist no time - great tip ha ha 😂
Good review , Thumbs up 👍
Hi PaPas Page - Thanks very much 😊
Nice review. About sinking… I believe it’s Trekology that sells a fabric sheet that locks into the feet of their knockoff chair. I believe it fits the Helionox too. Anyway it spreads the weight over a wider area to help prevent sinking. Of course that adds more weight. Cheers.
Hi Ricker - Thanks very much - I have heard about it - yes you are right it makes more heavy - thanks for the tip ✋🏻🏕🙂
Helinox make one as does Trekology.
They work very well, I always take it with my chair as we are often sitting on sand or soft forest floor.
You could literally make your own out of a small piece of Tyvek and some duct tape and keep the weight around 30g or 1oz.
@@Direct19681 good idea.
Throws himself back into the chair, falls over. Then complains the chair isn't stable lol. Moaning is off the scale.
Hi Caz glad you enjoyed the video 😂
It was ok apart from the moaning. I have this chair and its not bad although I worry about it breaking because I'm fat lol.@@hanskirk-hiking9697
håller inte med om att den är otymplig och svår att sätta upp. just motsatsen enligt mig.
Hej Yyy - det er godt 😀
@@hanskirk-hiking9697 kan dock hålla med om att tyget är lite jobbigt o få på
I am happy to see this video and review, and I am glad I didn’t buy the chair… Thank you for the tips
Hi TheBlindGardener - glad it helps it is not that bad - but considering how expensive the chair is - maybe you could improve you gear in other ways - for the same money 💁🏕
Problem 1: do you have a suggestion for a warmer chair with similar caracteristics? Problem 2: do you have a suggestion for a less bulky chair with similar caracteristics? Problem 3: do you have a suggestion for a lighter chair with similar caracteristics? Problem 4: do you have a suggestion for a chair with similar caracteristics that doesn't sink? Are you familiar with the litteraly thousand solutions? Problem 5: complaining for 1,2 minutes to set it up... really? 🤔 I wonder why you bought it in the first place...
Hi Franky yes i have - except for problem No 5 the hassle
Get the: Therm-A-Rest Trekker Chair - ha ha - got you 😃
lol
Ha ha