I pre ordered mine 3 days ago (Europe). Took thé boost kit, WRC wheel and New CSL pedals without clutch.(waiting loadcell tests). In my country (Belgium), CSL dd is due for november 12th. Never went seriously into sim racing but it is Time. I also took a GT omega apex front wheel base. I am currently with a Logitech G27. I bought assetto corsa competizione Yesterday with all dlc except gt4 and I already watched 4 or 5 of your beginner guide. Never tried or played it so far... I am litterally in the theoretical learning process. Taking informations, following guides, taking notes, as I Always do with sim game (xplane11 eg). I already have a french teammate who already rides as a sim racer. The aim is to ride together, have fun and try to get good results. Thx for your vidéos. I intend to play in VR to get that level of deepness or play on my screen, using my track IR 5 (i Saw you do not use either one of those-isn t it difficult to look left or right or does it bring less immersion...(immersion is important for me)) I was looking for a Twitch Channel but it seems you don t stream on that plateform ?
I stream here on UA-cam :) If you have any questions feel free to get in touch, jump in my Discord Community and race with us to learn more about ACC and SimRacing ^-^
Just got my CSL DD..and I am NOT seeing the same experience you are showing. I DL driver, install.. then DL Fanalab I guess.. when I start that.. it doesnt detect anything. I don't see the screen you have up where you update firmware.
Did the same step from CSL Elite to DD, got mine last week. I am heavily impressed by the differences, the details, the nuances, how easy it can be to control the car even one step over the red line... But even more I am a little confused - there are some points, turns where I wasn't even able to do certain moves or lines with the Elite. It was simply not possible. Now - easy going, gives much more room esp. in "close combat".
I love how you confirm my impressions :D So far whatever car I touched with the CSL DD it went much better, I even put in a crazy new PB at Nurbs in ACC with the Bentley which I never thought possible... I don't wanna blame it only on the CSL DD but it kinda feels like it ^-^
@@Boonatix Experience with the Aston: Able to avoid understeering under braking much easier through turns I always had problems. On some exits much tighter lines possible by letting the rear help with steering. This never was near that easy. Found some tenth through 2 or 3 turns in Siverstone and Spa. And yet fewer errors through longer stints. Excited for the other tracks!
@@marcgloeckner1022 really awesome :) so when we hear some fast esport drivers say that the hardware is not so important... we now know they just wanna keep us slow :P
@@Boonatix Amir Hosseini shows it is possible on his G27.. but surely it is easier with the DD for us humans.. Can't wait for mine to be delivered in October
Happy for you man, and also really jealous. LOL. I'll be getting the pedals first once the loadcell brake is released. Then hopefully next year get the CSL DD and McLaren Wheel.
@@ekeemekalu7124 It's brilliant!! I made the mistake of forgetting to remove a custom LUT file that I used with the G27. Once I removed this,the wheel felt so good.. I've got the DD bug now and it's left me wanting to try a DD1!
The fact that it is a DD does not automatically THAT good, smooth and linear. It even is a fantastic DD! Compare to Simexperience and other in terms of quickness, smoothnes and power constistency with perfect cooling. Not just a DD :-)
Hey man, I was wondering where you get the screws from at 4:10 ? I ordered my fanatec csl dd and I don't know how to mount it onto my Rig. I was hoping screws would be included. Thank you!!
Just shows its a much bigger upgrade from a csl then you would think the csl dd is insane and feels stronger then 8nm imo reminds me more of 10nm and the detail is some of the best I've felt
So you still have to pre-drill the mounting hole on the profile? I first thought it kind of can slide in the same t-nut profiles, but then couldn't understand how it should be tightened.
thank you very much for your video I got mine 3 days ago and I love it answer me something please? about the [SHO] effect, are those vibrations/sounds normal? you said in your video that it is completely silent and smooth, mine is not so quiet when [SHO] kicks in LOL Forgive me if the question sounded a little weird but this is a whole new WORLD for me because I've never had a Direct-Drive in my life.
Mine is totally quiet and does not make any sound... there should not be any rattling as there are no gears in the CSL DD. What sounds are you getting?
Hey Boon, is there a more detailed and updated settings guide on your shedule? Didn‘t find any beside Ermins. Would be great if you share your expirience and learnings!
It is a basic aluminium frame rig that cost me 300€ - just takes some time to assemble and can be frustrating but if you manage to do that, it opens up lots of flexible options and addons :) What brand is the 8020 coming from?
@@Boonatix Same here, just an aluminium frame, used maycad to design it. Coming from a local company, cost me about 250€. But wheel mounting profile is just a single 4080 piece, not tilt adjustable :(
Oh yes but that looks a bit crazier than it actually is because the streamdeck is mounted with a long flex arm... that swings quite a lot. Looking for some alternative ^-^
hey man, i currently bought the motedis and i see that your m6 bolts to point the t nuts for the CSL DD are a lot longer than the ones i have, do you by any chance know how long they are?
Is there any reason I’m getting 0 feedback to my csl? the wheel keeps the same light feel no matter what is happening in the game. Feedback is perfectly fine on iRacing assetto corsa etc
thanks for the review. Do you have the motedis s dream rig? Looking to switch to a motedis s dream + csl DD, just want to make sure that there is no problem with mounting the csl-dd as long as you have the t-nuts
You should try to tune the wheelbase around a gain of 60 in ACC, at 60 is when the game starts to clip the signal, below 60 you will get no clipping at all and can be confident that every signal sent to the base is 100 percent untouched. Then you can set the csl dd to 100 percent if needed with confidence there will be no clipping. I'm currently using a simucube 2 Pro and ofcourse I can use a gain below 60 in game and still achieve basically any power I want but that may be a struggle on the csl dd unless you are OK with clipping bigger bumps and stuff and push above a gain of 60. Anyway as a previous owner of a DD1 I can only suggest using interpolation around the 3 or 4 mark, lower than 3 brings the detail up a notch but cars like the mercedes feel a bit noisy and grainy with that low interpolation so I found around 4 being a sweet spot in ACC which I see you went with, also as a csl elite user I'm sure you know FEI above 80 can be pretty nasty.
@@Boonatix ah ok fair enough, just wondering because I'm gonna have the QR 1 lite to start with and I dont think it can handle the 8nm, will probably just have to turn the FFB down quite a bit
Very nice video man! I’m planning to upgrade from my G29 to the CSL DD, but here in Brazil it’s not officially sold by Fanatec, so I’d have to import. Can you tel me if it came in one single box with the two separate boxes (the DD and the power supply)? Tks!
Im running now the t300, after your reaction driving with the csl DD i can”t wait when mine gets deliverd, You said running in game 75%, and what are you base settings 100% or bitt less
Yes, base settings are according to Fanatec Forum suggestions for ACC: forum.fanatec.com/discussion/634/assetto-corsa-competizione-pc-fanatec-recommended-settings
Check the Fanatec Website. I order mine in wave 1 and it will arrive e in 2 days. Last time I checked, current orders will be delivered in October - but I think they are ahead of schedule
With how the preorders have worked, unfortunately you would have to wait untli like November :( But one never knows, they got wave 1 in way earlier than expected so maybe all the orders can get delivered quicker!
The smoothness of this wheel feels weird. It feels like driving a car with no connection to the road. Cant feel the tire friction only the wheel resistance. Buttkicker brings this wheel to life by bringing vibrations to your entire rig/wheel just like what you feel in real life. Its so lifeless without constant vibration.
Most helpful, thank you. I just received my CSL DD, will be installing it this week-end and appreciate your pointers.
Awesome video , well put together and this will definitely help others getting into the DD game make a better decision . Great Unboxing man . Cheers
Thank you so much ^-^
Great video and after watching I have ordered one (pre ordered) and looking so forward.
Good choice! And Enjoy :)
I pre ordered mine 3 days ago (Europe). Took thé boost kit, WRC wheel and New CSL pedals without clutch.(waiting loadcell tests).
In my country (Belgium), CSL dd is due for november 12th. Never went seriously into sim racing but it is Time. I also took a GT omega apex front wheel base. I am currently with a Logitech G27. I bought assetto corsa competizione Yesterday with all dlc except gt4 and I already watched 4 or 5 of your beginner guide. Never tried or played it so far... I am litterally in the theoretical learning process. Taking informations, following guides, taking notes, as I Always do with sim game (xplane11 eg).
I already have a french teammate who already rides as a sim racer. The aim is to ride together, have fun and try to get good results. Thx for your vidéos. I intend to play in VR to get that level of deepness or play on my screen, using my track IR 5 (i Saw you do not use either one of those-isn t it difficult to look left or right or does it bring less immersion...(immersion is important for me)) I was looking for a Twitch Channel but it seems you don t stream on that plateform ?
I stream here on UA-cam :) If you have any questions feel free to get in touch, jump in my Discord Community and race with us to learn more about ACC and SimRacing ^-^
Just got my CSL DD..and I am NOT seeing the same experience you are showing. I DL driver, install.. then DL Fanalab I guess.. when I start that.. it doesnt detect anything. I don't see the screen you have up where you update firmware.
Did the same step from CSL Elite to DD, got mine last week. I am heavily impressed by the differences, the details, the nuances, how easy it can be to control the car even one step over the red line... But even more I am a little confused - there are some points, turns where I wasn't even able to do certain moves or lines with the Elite. It was simply not possible. Now - easy going, gives much more room esp. in "close combat".
I love how you confirm my impressions :D So far whatever car I touched with the CSL DD it went much better, I even put in a crazy new PB at Nurbs in ACC with the Bentley which I never thought possible... I don't wanna blame it only on the CSL DD but it kinda feels like it ^-^
@@Boonatix Experience with the Aston: Able to avoid understeering under braking much easier through turns I always had problems. On some exits much tighter lines possible by letting the rear help with steering. This never was near that easy. Found some tenth through 2 or 3 turns in Siverstone and Spa. And yet fewer errors through longer stints. Excited for the other tracks!
@@marcgloeckner1022 really awesome :) so when we hear some fast esport drivers say that the hardware is not so important... we now know they just wanna keep us slow :P
@@Boonatix Amir Hosseini shows it is possible on his G27.. but surely it is easier with the DD for us humans..
Can't wait for mine to be delivered in October
when did you order yours?
Happy for you man, and also really jealous. LOL. I'll be getting the pedals first once the loadcell brake is released. Then hopefully next year get the CSL DD and McLaren Wheel.
Thanks buddy ^-^ the pedals will be awesome as well, I assure you!
My CSL DD arrives in 2 days!
I'm so excited.
Coming from a G27 :)
Your simracingn world is about to be rocked
Lucky! Mine isn't due till late november :c
@@Froot99 same
Any update?
@@ekeemekalu7124 It's brilliant!!
I made the mistake of forgetting to remove a custom LUT file that I used with the G27.
Once I removed this,the wheel felt so good..
I've got the DD bug now and it's left me wanting to try a DD1!
The fact that it is a DD does not automatically THAT good, smooth and linear. It even is a fantastic DD! Compare to Simexperience and other in terms of quickness, smoothnes and power constistency with perfect cooling. Not just a DD :-)
Hey man, I was wondering where you get the screws from at 4:10 ? I ordered my fanatec csl dd and I don't know how to mount it onto my Rig. I was hoping screws would be included. Thank you!!
I had them included when I bought my aluminium frame rig... there are no screws delivered with the Fanatec wheel bases :(
Okay thank you!@@Boonatix
Thanks for all the info on the DD.
You are very welcome ^-^
You sound happy. That's great.
Thanks mate, like a little boy on christmas ^^
Just shows its a much bigger upgrade from a csl then you would think the csl dd is insane and feels stronger then 8nm imo reminds me more of 10nm and the detail is some of the best I've felt
Yep absolutely, I am still astonished... and have to "calibrate my muscle memory" again now :D
Hey thinking of buying one of these just a few questions
My first is is the cable a standard usb?
My second is does it have shifter flaps?
Thanks
So you still have to pre-drill the mounting hole on the profile? I first thought it kind of can slide in the same t-nut profiles, but then couldn't understand how it should be tightened.
Hey man, great video. Where do you get the aluminium bars used to build your sim rig?
was from a german supplier, but there should be many other "aluminum frame" sim racing rig suppliers out there :)
thank you very much for your video
I got mine 3 days ago and I love it
answer me something please?
about the [SHO] effect, are those vibrations/sounds normal?
you said in your video that it is completely silent and smooth,
mine is not so quiet when [SHO] kicks in LOL
Forgive me if the question sounded a little weird but this is a whole new WORLD for me because I've never had a Direct-Drive in my life.
Mine is totally quiet and does not make any sound... there should not be any rattling as there are no gears in the CSL DD. What sounds are you getting?
Hey Boon,
is there a more detailed and updated settings guide on your shedule?
Didn‘t find any beside Ermins.
Would be great if you share your expirience and learnings!
Absolutely will do asap and share my settings, so far only for ACC and R3E but will do so gladly :)
Sadly I've ordered my 8020 rig already, your wheel mounting solution is great
It is a basic aluminium frame rig that cost me 300€ - just takes some time to assemble and can be frustrating but if you manage to do that, it opens up lots of flexible options and addons :) What brand is the 8020 coming from?
@@Boonatix Same here, just an aluminium frame, used maycad to design it. Coming from a local company, cost me about 250€. But wheel mounting profile is just a single 4080 piece, not tilt adjustable :(
I hope mine arrives earlier than end of November..
It might be as the first wave is now a month earlier... my guess is they planed it really smart, better later than to early :)
Need .... to ..... order .....!
Thanks. I cannot wait to get mine. The wheel base had your stream deck shaking a lot. That does not bode well for my GTO Apex stand.
Oh yes but that looks a bit crazier than it actually is because the streamdeck is mounted with a long flex arm... that swings quite a lot. Looking for some alternative ^-^
hey man, i currently bought the motedis and i see that your m6 bolts to point the t nuts for the CSL DD are a lot longer than the ones i have, do you by any chance know how long they are?
Is there any reason I’m getting 0 feedback to my csl? the wheel keeps the same light feel no matter what is happening in the game. Feedback is perfectly fine on iRacing assetto corsa etc
thanks for the review. Do you have the motedis s dream rig? Looking to switch to a motedis s dream + csl DD, just want to make sure that there is no problem with mounting the csl-dd as long as you have the t-nuts
Yep that is the Motedis, no issues with mounting as the T-Nuts can be moved within the CSL-DD framing to wherever you need them :)
i will order csl dd in some days.i see they dont have screws inside or what?i must order from shop screws?
The T-Nuts are in there, you should have screws from your Rig / Plate :)
You should try to tune the wheelbase around a gain of 60 in ACC, at 60 is when the game starts to clip the signal, below 60 you will get no clipping at all and can be confident that every signal sent to the base is 100 percent untouched. Then you can set the csl dd to 100 percent if needed with confidence there will be no clipping.
I'm currently using a simucube 2 Pro and ofcourse I can use a gain below 60 in game and still achieve basically any power I want but that may be a struggle on the csl dd unless you are OK with clipping bigger bumps and stuff and push above a gain of 60.
Anyway as a previous owner of a DD1 I can only suggest using interpolation around the 3 or 4 mark, lower than 3 brings the detail up a notch but cars like the mercedes feel a bit noisy and grainy with that low interpolation so I found around 4 being a sweet spot in ACC which I see you went with, also as a csl elite user I'm sure you know FEI above 80 can be pretty nasty.
Thank you! Very valuable feedback, have to keep on experimenting with that :)
Does the dd with the boost kit come with the standard power supply as well?
No, it is replaced by the boost kit to not send double power supplies and at least save a bit on resources ;)
@@Boonatix ah ok fair enough, just wondering because I'm gonna have the QR 1 lite to start with and I dont think it can handle the 8nm, will probably just have to turn the FFB down quite a bit
My firmware manager is stuck on please wait :( haven’t even used the damn thing !
Oh my gosh I’m so jelly
Very nice video man! I’m planning to upgrade from my G29 to the CSL DD, but here in Brazil it’s not officially sold by Fanatec, so I’d have to import. Can you tel me if it came in one single box with the two separate boxes (the DD and the power supply)? Tks!
Hey, wish you all the best then! Yes, it came packed together in one brown cardboard box
Hi did you use the same screws from the csl elite for mounting the dd,thanks.
Yes, I had screws with my Sim Rig and they all fit perfectly for the T-Nuts :)
Im running now the t300, after your reaction driving with the csl DD i can”t wait when mine gets deliverd,
You said running in game 75%, and what are you base settings 100% or bitt less
Yes, base settings are according to Fanatec Forum suggestions for ACC: forum.fanatec.com/discussion/634/assetto-corsa-competizione-pc-fanatec-recommended-settings
how much torque do actual GT3 cars put out to their wheels i wonder, like what torque does a real GT3 driver feel through his/her hands?
Can the base slide off? Or can you tighten it since my rig points a bit down
Cannot slide off as you really screw it tight :)
6:30 The drivers for "CSL DD (5Nm)" are at the very bottom of the list.
Hey I have a question if i order my csl dd now could it get deliverd yet ?
In a few Weeks
Check the Fanatec Website.
I order mine in wave 1 and it will arrive e in 2 days.
Last time I checked, current orders will be delivered in October - but I think they are ahead of schedule
Ordered mine last week and it says 23rd November
With how the preorders have worked, unfortunately you would have to wait untli like November :( But one never knows, they got wave 1 in way earlier than expected so maybe all the orders can get delivered quicker!
@@Boonatix ok thanks
wow you still needed to turn it down... ok this sounds promising
the hand shaking lol must be heavy
Absolutely heavy ^-^
The smoothness of this wheel feels weird. It feels like driving a car with no connection to the road. Cant feel the tire friction only the wheel resistance. Buttkicker brings this wheel to life by bringing vibrations to your entire rig/wheel just like what you feel in real life. Its so lifeless without constant vibration.
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