I think Hasan is slowly becoming more and more afraid of how insane the left is getting. There's hope for that boy. He's still a jackass, but he might make a turnaround one day.
@@BigPuddin Hasan is crazy as hell. He dreams of capitalists being murdered and so on.. so its not like hes outside the bloodcult.. and no... he will never turn around. He also praises terrorists so.... yeah..
Yeah, he's obviously still current. Saying 'I was like this so everyone I perceive for superficial reasons to be like me is also like that' is textbook bigotry. Same shit for the leftist darling DiAngelo whose entire thesis they eat up is 'I identify as white and I'm a racist piece of shit therefore I know all white people are racist pieces of shit just like me because we're all the same'. This is the person they expect you to listen to on how not to be racist and is your moral superior.
Yeah but the thing is that that never happened. That guy is not a "former bigot" whatever that means but I guess he means "right wing" or just not woke. He is projecting his fantasy of what a right winger is in his mind, so he plays the "former bigot" card in order to get credibility. The fact that you can't tell if these people are 12 or 40 years old speaks volumes about the twitter freaks.
The reason they are so rabid is because they think they caught Asmon with this. "Haha! He's dumb, he doesn't know MGS is always political! Let's all point our fingers and laugh at him!" - Someone tells them it's a joke, and they refuse to back down now because it means he wins again and they'll look even more stupid, so they argue semantics and makes bold claims instead to try to prove their baseless point.
It's doubly dumb because what Twitter activists mean by "political" is completely different from how every normal human being in history used the word.
@@rpgfanatic9719 You know what they say about people who assume a lot, right? Because you can't be one of Asmongolds viewers, otherwise you would know that he played one of the MGS games (yes, only one, but thats entirely enough to understand that the games are highly political ) and reacted to parts of it on stream that are uber, turbo highly political. 2 minutes of research would've shown you that much.
This confirms the old theory that "people will be so stupid that they won't know how to differentiate irony and sarcasm to the point that you will have to tell them."
It's always the subreddits whose entire purpose is to just bitch about everything and be miserable. I wonder if the retards on r/gamingcirclejerk have said anything about this. It would be a surprise if they didn't.
they don't understand anything, they just farm likes by parroting pre-digested 10 words (or less) sentences. There's virtually one real difference between an average twitter user and a bot: bots are evolving
I wonder, did we ever actually understand each other, or by having a strict culture that was never really messed with, we assumed that we understood each other? At this point, I will assume that people assume we understand each other.
Yeah, its frightening, right? Thats why you can only lose in this situation. These echo chambers spiral out of control in just a few hours and pile on more and more (freely invented) accusations instead of fact checking once. If you try to clear it up, engage in a conversation or prove them wrong, they already have 10 other reasons why you are lying, you are wrong, or just trying to damage control, or they just say that you are proving that you are "guilty", otherwise you wouldn't need to defend yourself. (right? RIGHT?!) Asmongold is luckily big enough and independent enough to just make fun of the situation and not bother with it. The only smart move. But situations like this can outright destroy other peoples reputation and careers.
Its their defense mechanism. What they are saying is "Im not an idiot for not understanding that basic joke and being completly outraged by it.... he must have been serious this whole time!"
I think it honestly reveals something massively important and needs to be understood when dealing with these people. Without any mean intention, they have autism and are unaware of it. They are unable to detect or understand sarcasm.
if they'd just own up to it too this'd blow over so quick but nooo we gotta have narcissists in there using others as their narcissistic extensions so it all just becomes one big circlejerk
I do wonder though if it wasn't Asmon (who Hasan is on... Idk, friendly terms with?) would he be shitting on what was said as well, not wanting to argue against the idiots who are his own biggest fans?
most likely a LARPing lefty, they love doing the "i used to be a racist homophobic far right extremist until I saw the light" when actually they were just center-left before becoming extreme left.
I'm homeschooled, I learned sarcasm from my parents. I've learned that a lot of the humour of sarcasm comes from not being able to tell if it's sarcasm or not. Even when I think someones being sarcastic, I'll take their statement at face value, both to convey my own brand of sarcasm while hedging my bets in case they weren't being sarcastic. I like to think that I'm self aware as to how gullible I am.
@@r3dp9 I think good sarcasm is the context and subject that are being put at odds together so much that even If i say an absolutely ridiculous statement with a completely serious and unjoking tone, it still be read as sarcasm.
It's challenging to defend beliefs because it requires you to think and rationalize your beliefs. Echo chambers don't need that because "you're right and they're wrong."
Lefties blamed the whole debacle on "conservative falseflaggers" because "we would never irrationally attack someone for being straight, we're smarty-pants'! It's a conspiracy!"
Chatrooms and forums have always been cess pools… Always. You give people reinforcement with likes, or near-total anonymity… and they’ll be the worst version of themselves time and time again.
@@sdbzfan1 He just recently got into another controversy where he replied to a post asking which body type u prefer on a female and he said all of them. And that tweet went viral and it just led to the exact same thing. I get that he's kinda cringe but straight up assuming shit about someone such as that he's a pedo or a creep is just wild.
"Well, Asmongold said he doesn't want the MGS 3 remake to get political... Time to write a 7 paragraph essay about how harmful that is!" Reddit really is a cesspool of stupidity and circle jerks.
This is crazy man. All of the implying, shoving words in Asmon's mouth, the "I know him more than he knows himself" bs going on Twitter and Reddit is so baffling. It truly comes from a place of moral superiority and a holier than thou mindset, but when met with the fact that they either misinterpreted what he said or are just straight up projecting, they double down on everything and creates a cycle that just can't stop. Editor really said it best. Twitter is actually retarded...
Twitter and reddit are the most braindead places in social media if they were to be shut down today all the neckbeards and trogolytes would be crying because they realize they cannot function in society without social media
Yeap they will defend this stance to the bitter end. Even if Asmon would profess in the same video that he is going to make a joke and is fully aware of MGS political themes they would still say he didn't really mean it as a joke and it was some kind of dog whistle or whatever conspiracy. Even if they would be cornered with this reality by someone they would still probably say well maybe it was a joke then but what he really thinks is this so EVEN if this time he wasn't 100% serious then it would still be ok to paint him as "negative term" because deep down he is one and just because one time he happened not to be a total "negative term" doesn't mean he stopped being one so he deserves all the backlash anyway.
@@Mytelefe You are 100% correct. The Twitter and Reddit freaks will never in a million years rescind any insults, implications, backlash and/or statements they made because they VERY CLEARLY have a negative bias. And it is very clear they have a negative bias because if they didn't the "political" clip would've never even seen the light of day besides for the people who actually tuned in for that stream.
Even if it wasn't sarcasm, saying you hope the game isn't political is the most politically correct, neutral statement. You have to be someone who thinks that games are there only to be your platform for your ideology to take offense in that.
@@johanjohannesson4746 nah we still remember what he said on the deprogramm podcast right after october 7th. He had his mind made up before any of the retaliation even came in.
they act like he said that's just a joke to defend himself. Which means they saw his response. Which means they literally didn't process the part where he made that joke years before this even happened. thats some next level selective hearing
Shut up bigot ! He was just pretending to joke about it before to cover his clear bigotry and dogwhistle rhetoric ! You think you can fool people but you are just not clever enough with your bigoted ways !
These people play MGS2 and probably think "OH, THIS IS WHAT *MY* POLITICAL OPPOSITION THINKS LIKE". The ending specifically mentions political correctness as a part of a larger problem, but that line flies over their heads. If you know about echo chambers, that doesn't mean you are immune to falling into one.
@@VitaliyMilonovthis. Whole point about the Patriots A.I. talking about that to Raiden was that it was commentary on the age-old human practice of faction-making. All that info and opportunity to grow, and it's still far too easy to get comfortable staying in an echo chamber, which makes you easy to lead by the nose. The way to counteract it is to embark on your own and find the full context beyond what is fed or affirmed to you. This is dangerous, terrifying, and empowering. And anyone can do it, they just choose not to.
Literally, the gradual realisation that I was living in the ending of MGS2 was wild. I know authors said the same thing before Kojima did but it was still interesting how prophetic that game ended up being.
@@CloakofAuron It's actually astonishing how spot on the Patriots AI was about a large majority of humans. This is why the AI says it wants to "create context" and that "humans don't deserve free will." Humans have the privilege to think for our own but sadly many of us don't and are easily mislead/misinterpret things, thus making up our own mind about things before even knowing the true context of something. Then when presented with the context some humans STILL assume they are right.
asmon, a person whos played the metal gear series, makes a joke about how they dont add politics into a game *infamous for politics* the joke didnt just fly over their heads it shot into the fucking sun
There are 2 definitions of politics being used here. The far left activist definition and the one that regular people use. When an activist says "everything is political" they don't mean that groups of people cannot exist without forming some form of political thought to coexist. No, they mean that people have always used everything to spread their political agenda and therefor its ok and normal for them to do it to your beloved franchise. Metal gear is famous for being Anti War and it relays that message to you via its story which you can enjoy regardless of your thoughts on the topic. A game that is political in the activist interpretation does everything to lecture the viewer about something to the point of insulting anyone who doesnt share the authors exact views. There is not much story left in a game that is political in that way. But those are the exact sort of politics that people are talking about when they "hope it doesn't get political".
So glad I’m apart of the UA-cam community. Most of the things here are pretty chill and much more logical than anywhere on the internet. It’s not perfect but it’s actually pretty great to see most people not idiotic
"As a former bigot" guy reminded me of a nutcase at my ex's AA meetings who said he "Used to manipulate people for personal gain" but now he "Manipulates people for good". Guy would also frequently complain that he was tired of being good.
classic "double down" phenomenon, rather than admit they jumped the gun or got something wrong the weak minded will pursue a line of thought with twice the intensity.
This reminds me of the south park episode where they create a smug cloud because they are all high and mighty after buying hybrid cars. The commenter that started off "as a former bigot" is wrapped in smugness
The problem with Jocat is that he decided he wanted to get on their 'good side' and then was shocked when there was no good side to be found. Asmon on the other hand has no problem with lighting a match and smiling at the chaos that will shortly ensue.
Him justifying the harrassment people got over the Hogwarts legacy game by saying the trans people deal with worse will always put him in the "he deserved it" place. Why should we care about the harrassment he is getting when he waved off other's for no lesser of a cause
You could argue that he wasn't just trying to get on thier good side but honestly thought he was a part of them. Sadly, he didn't realize they don't want to make things better just find people to justify thier anger.
"I hope they don't add gay people". Are they even aware of Volgin and Raikov's relationship when they make this assumption of what Asmon might say? The gay people already existed, and no one cared. Vamp exists, and no one cared. They just want to see "problematic issues" everywhere they look, cause acting like a victim is the only way they get engagement.
There is a difference between gay people and "gay" people. Basically one just dates dudes while the others are out there naked in public during pride parades. The deviants ruin the reputation of the regular gay people and that will eventually lead to backlash which is why the regular gay people are trying their best to disavow LGBT.
Asmon has a point. It's probably not even real people arguing about this. It's probably some political discourse bots arguing both sides. The AI chat bots have been doing this since the inception of them. I don't actually use any social media besides YT so I could just be giving my boomer take...
Ah yes, I remember that part of the ending. "Raiden, to control the government, we have to say we hope they don't add gay people to a game with fay people in it and pretend it's a joke"
The scariest part of that ending was the AI kind of had a point. People are genuinely too stupid to think for themselves and very easily to manipulate. People are petty and they will get in their own way if you don't stop them. We see examples of people being manipulated by someone "creating context" basically all the time now.
The thread is absolutely insane. The number of people on there that have no idea what they’re talking about is genuinely terrifying to me. How can so many people be so so stupid with such confidence!?
@@notweewee Ye but what context do you need beyond the clip!?! And the craziest part isn’t the initial reaction.. I guess you could mistake it for a genuinely bad take take. The craziest part is the subsequent defense and doubling down after being told it was sarcasm, trying to argue that it was just a way to avoid being directly bigoted. Just absolutely unbelievable.
Bro, JoCat was criticized because he downplayed the harassment people like Pikamee had to endure during the whole hogwarts legacy debacle. He isby no means innocent
@@7swordfighter Advantage, disadvantage, and unpredictability. Like Asmon's simple joke was supposed to be nothing more than an advantage but got twisted into a disadvantage. Can be damaging on all sides whenever that happens.
allowing freedom of speech also means ppl are free to say stupid shit. the real problem is the fact that they aren't ashamed of, and don't learn from, the stupid shit they say.
Brother, Muskrat has made it ten times worse! Now it isn't just morons talking bullshit like this, but also rampant racial slurs and literal Nazi propaganda.
People seem to have forgotten guilt trips only work when the person giving matters to the person receiving. If some one doesn't care about you, your ability to make them feel guilty is minimal.
@@barrettbirks1058a lot of people didn't really care at the fact that Metal Gear was based on James Bond movies, George Orwell's 1984 book, and a few Western political references huh. Some people really love to get involve in discussions that they didn't even know.
@@pineappleparty1624 No they're just being defensive over not putting any critical thought towards ideas they are exposed to. Stupid people get mad at others when put into a situation where they have to confront their stupidity.
@@zym6687 The OP topic wasnt the twitter people, but all people in general and all sarcasm in general. Sometimes the person just sucks at sarcasm and then gets annoyed when it doesnt make sense to people. So it's not a 100% foolproof logic.
I really like how this whole thing kind of goes along with some of the themes of the series. For example, misinformation, not excepting the truth/only confirming what already you belive in instead of challenging, and others. This is just so ironic lol
Mostly because people are individually sarcastic in different ways, so if you don't know the person very well then it can be rather easy to misinterpret sarcasm as genuineness.
Nah it's due to echo chambers and the fact sarcasm can be difficult to convey through text, hence why reddit does the /s thing. You have to be in the know to catch sarcasm about more complex subjects. I'm sure many people believe I'm serious leaving parody comments imitating crazy, far-leftists lol. The bigger problem is people refuse to acknowledge when they were wrong in taking something seriously, and instead rationalize how it was never a joke or sarcasm for convoluted reasons with no evidence. I've had many instances of responding seriously to a sarcastic comment and looking like a fool, and I just laugh and hold the L. Takes humility, which these people have none of.
You can use it for business and never actually go into the public forum of it. Say you make artwork for freelance work advertising. You tag it with key words relating to those people. I never saw an unhinged post when I used it lol.
@@barrettbirks1058"reddit is full of brilliant and marvelous people. If you think you're a brilliant and intelligent person you should go over there and not interact with us dumb goofy bags because we're really dumb unlike redditors"
You don't lose when people start hating on you just to hate on you. You lose when you start listening to them like they actually matter. Why the fuck would you do that to yourself?
Asmon literally reacted to a huge video about the Metal Gear Solid 2 reveal that predicted our current political landscape like a year or two ago goodness
Gotta love the rabid mob. Even when shown they're wrong and that it was a sarcastic joke, they create a fantasy world around them to justify why they're right in attacking him for it anyway. The brainrot has taken hold at the root and it's there for good.
Im so lost as to what people online are even complaining about anymore that nothing makes sense looking at it. Living under a rock was (and still is) the best option.
1:58 I really find interesting how they want to add gay people and minorities in every game. most of those games are about war and conflicts, and they treat fiction as reality. so, they really seek conflict and chaos. to people who claim to be in the right side, of love and peace, they're so eagerly to go "Yess include my image in middle of that carnage, I want to be part of it!"
@@Dice-Z They underestimate their effect on reality, too. We all like to sit and laugh as if they're just seething into the void online. They're not. These same people hold the reigns on most of the institutions via mob rule. These are the people responsible for everything wrong with modern society. We keep laughing at them but, in reality, they exert significant control over society.
It's insane how much bad faith those people have. They aren't even trying to hide the fact that they already have opinion on Asmon and nothing will change that. They will attack him on every occassion they have even if they are blatantly wrong. Just to prove themself that they are right. And they still believe that they are the "good guys".
Yeah never change your stance or the shift to cater up to these people views it will never end well for anyone because when you let your guard down they jump straight into action of making sure you'll be regretting that decision
@bryan...5047 when he got that FF14 crowd his fate was sealed. I play ff14 because a bunch of my freinds do, but man that community is trash basically just twitter but on an mmo.
@@GutsOfRivia I feel it's worse than twitter. if someone hates you from the ff14 fanbase they will find you on every social media and in game to harass you with as many people as they can get with them too.
MGS tackled with actual politics and philosophy. What we now got is "everything is political"- nonsense. No wonder people can't understand the joke when they've accustomed themselves with constant "political" messaging without depth.
Funnily, this kind of situation is EXACTLY what the AI warned about in the last CODEC call in MGS2: trite, fake information being manipulated and spread around without any proper research regarding its context, creating various "truths" that are most convenient to the people reacting to it.
This isnt even media literacy its just a basic sarcastic joke
Yep. Sarcasm. Completely lost on them. 😂
You're presuming Any of them watched the video
Those numbers are all blown way out of proportion by bots. 90 percent bots at least
Subtlety is not their strong suit
@@at0micl0bster Right on, most have not even seen the clip, they just parrot what everyone else says lol
When Hassan can see the joke but you can't just speaks volumes about these twitter freaks.
Your IQ is in the negative, if Hassan gets something and you don't.
it would seem redditors are just as bad lmao
Whoaaaa you mean X, Formerly known as Twitter freaks!!!
They are the left version of MAGA
*Reddit
“As a former bigot” is going to become what I lead every conversation with, from now on.
Imagine that in someone's résumé lol
As a former bigot and current physician,
Good on you!
I'm still a recovering bigot.
@@rakly3473I can quit whenever I want
@@rakly3473, bad on you; I'm an unabashed bigot.
Hasan calling his chat out for being hypocrites is about the last thing I ever expected to happen.
A broken clock is right twice a day
I think Hasan is slowly becoming more and more afraid of how insane the left is getting. There's hope for that boy. He's still a jackass, but he might make a turnaround one day.
A one in a lifetime Hassan W
@@BigPuddin Hasan is crazy as hell. He dreams of capitalists being murdered and so on.. so its not like hes outside the bloodcult.. and no... he will never turn around. He also praises terrorists so.... yeah..
Hasan bullies his chat constantly, especially when they don't get sarcasm and jokes.
"as a former bigot"
Sure bud
They probably mean they used to think there are only 2 genders.
Garentee, it's more like "Updated Bigot"
Yeah, he's obviously still current. Saying 'I was like this so everyone I perceive for superficial reasons to be like me is also like that' is textbook bigotry. Same shit for the leftist darling DiAngelo whose entire thesis they eat up is 'I identify as white and I'm a racist piece of shit therefore I know all white people are racist pieces of shit just like me because we're all the same'. This is the person they expect you to listen to on how not to be racist and is your moral superior.
now a "soft-modern bigot"
New subspecies of bigfoot dropped
When Hasan is defending you... that's some shit right there
Hasan is only defending Asmon because he’s aware of Asmons power-level
At that point I'd just accept that people are unaware of the joke and accept defeat if Hasan is involved
He's aware it would backlash. He's a total careerist crook, he senses it, lol
That means Asmon is wrong there
hasan refusing to take the bait, and then a viewer telling him that "hes getting baited" for not taking the bait is some high quality brainrot
Imagine being so brave to openly admitting to being a "former bigot", truly inspiring. He is absolutely not a bigot anymore, just so we are clear.
He's a physician now
The typical “The bugs remind me of the jews” ahh person
Yeah but the thing is that that never happened. That guy is not a "former bigot" whatever that means but I guess he means "right wing" or just not woke. He is projecting his fantasy of what a right winger is in his mind, so he plays the "former bigot" card in order to get credibility.
The fact that you can't tell if these people are 12 or 40 years old speaks volumes about the twitter freaks.
after he got triple vaxxed his brain was rearranged
Cringiest part of this whole bit honestly.
The reason they are so rabid is because they think they caught Asmon with this. "Haha! He's dumb, he doesn't know MGS is always political! Let's all point our fingers and laugh at him!" - Someone tells them it's a joke, and they refuse to back down now because it means he wins again and they'll look even more stupid, so they argue semantics and makes bold claims instead to try to prove their baseless point.
It's doubly dumb because what Twitter activists mean by "political" is completely different from how every normal human being in history used the word.
The guy didn't even know footage from black flag was, I wouldn't put it past him not to know anything about mg.
@@rpgfanatic9719shouldn't you be reeing about this on twitter?
@@MisterMick113 The thing is, I'm not mad about it.
@@rpgfanatic9719 You know what they say about people who assume a lot, right?
Because you can't be one of Asmongolds viewers, otherwise you would know that he played one of the MGS games (yes, only one, but thats entirely enough to understand that the games are highly political ) and reacted to parts of it on stream that are uber, turbo highly political.
2 minutes of research would've shown you that much.
This confirms the old theory that "people will be so stupid that they won't know how to differentiate irony and sarcasm to the point that you will have to tell them."
What’s the joke?
Think about how stupid your average person is, then remember that 49% of people are actually more stupid than that.
and they still won't get it
@@ealtarand one day they won't be able to tell between O2 and CO2, and we will have less of them.
@@personal9372 Man, we can only hope.
What is said ironically will eventually be believed in earnest by those not in the know ,i think was the quote
redit users proving the redit user stereotype real. Amazing.
It's always the subreddits whose entire purpose is to just bitch about everything and be miserable. I wonder if the retards on r/gamingcirclejerk have said anything about this. It would be a surprise if they didn't.
Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles.
reddit users are usually born to smokers and drug addicts. They were doomed in the womb
Not everyone in reddit is but yeah those people who stay there 24 hrs log in every day are.
@@nox22119 anyone who leaves hobby/small game subreddits are redditors
This is actually scary.
The echo-chamber is so fucking strong, i feel like people just understand eachother less and less.
they don't understand anything, they just farm likes by parroting pre-digested 10 words (or less) sentences.
There's virtually one real difference between an average twitter user and a bot: bots are evolving
You just realizing? Lol. I’m in the came of young men that keep being ignored whenever we call out the direction the species is headed lol.
I wonder, did we ever actually understand each other, or by having a strict culture that was never really messed with, we assumed that we understood each other? At this point, I will assume that people assume we understand each other.
Yeah, its frightening, right?
Thats why you can only lose in this situation.
These echo chambers spiral out of control in just a few hours and pile on more and more (freely invented) accusations instead of fact checking once.
If you try to clear it up, engage in a conversation or prove them wrong, they already have 10 other reasons why you are lying, you are wrong, or just trying to damage control, or they just say that you are proving that you are "guilty", otherwise you wouldn't need to defend yourself. (right? RIGHT?!)
Asmongold is luckily big enough and independent enough to just make fun of the situation and not bother with it. The only smart move.
But situations like this can outright destroy other peoples reputation and careers.
I'll never stop saying it - the internet was a mistake.
Its their defense mechanism. What they are saying is "Im not an idiot for not understanding that basic joke and being completly outraged by it.... he must have been serious this whole time!"
I think it honestly reveals something massively important and needs to be understood when dealing with these people. Without any mean intention, they have autism and are unaware of it. They are unable to detect or understand sarcasm.
if they'd just own up to it too this'd blow over so quick but nooo we gotta have narcissists in there using others as their narcissistic extensions so it all just becomes one big circlejerk
Extremist need to be shamed off the internet.
Hasan having a correct take on something, now that’s a unicorn.
It's called being a blind squirrel lol
I do wonder though if it wasn't Asmon (who Hasan is on... Idk, friendly terms with?) would he be shitting on what was said as well, not wanting to argue against the idiots who are his own biggest fans?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
a broken clock is still right twice a day, might only be defending because its asmon as well
don't tell vaush about the unicorn tho
"As a former biggot"
God i hope hes being a troll.
He just don't understand that shifting your bigotry towards other groups of people doesn't make you a "former" bigot.
most likely a LARPing lefty, they love doing the "i used to be a racist homophobic far right extremist until I saw the light" when actually they were just center-left before becoming extreme left.
I hope you're only pretending to not get the sarcasm
"former biggot" translates to: I used to make edgy jokes in middle school, but now im in high school so im much more wise and mature. lmao
@@1blackice1 Now he's lame and tame :))
I might've hated public schooling, but these people on X/Reddit make me grateful every day that I was taught sarcasm in 4th grade English.
I'm homeschooled, I learned sarcasm from my parents.
I've learned that a lot of the humour of sarcasm comes from not being able to tell if it's sarcasm or not. Even when I think someones being sarcastic, I'll take their statement at face value, both to convey my own brand of sarcasm while hedging my bets in case they weren't being sarcastic. I like to think that I'm self aware as to how gullible I am.
@@r3dp9 I think good sarcasm is the context and subject that are being put at odds together so much that even If i say an absolutely ridiculous statement with a completely serious and unjoking tone, it still be read as sarcasm.
"as a former bigot" got me😂
It's crazy how little self awareness some people have and then act like *they're* the enlightened ones who aren't in an echo chamber.
It's challenging to defend beliefs because it requires you to think and rationalize your beliefs. Echo chambers don't need that because "you're right and they're wrong."
To be fair, it isn't just self awareness they lack, but awareness in general.
WOKE
Thank you for using "they're" in your comment.
Are you talking about the "stupid people grouping together to boost their delusions" comment? xD
"You're getting baited." -Some one who's getting baited.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
@@slothcooOooOooOooooo
@@slothc It's actually easier to just let the fart out. Don't worry if someone hears it; just remember you're asserting airspace dominance.
@@slothc what happens if you just fool them again
do they cancel out or
They want to believe Asmon wasn't joking, that's it.
Asmon: tells a sarcastic joke.
Twitter: omg no laugh track played, he meant it
This is probably most accurate reasoning behind it... It's all the people who have been raised by the comedy shows with laughtrack.
I wasn't a fan of Jocat, but, man, he was done dirty. Twitter is full of the some of the lowest people out there.
he's better off without the internet, he's got skills and a girlfriend, he didnt need to be an internet monkey
Lefties blamed the whole debacle on "conservative falseflaggers" because "we would never irrationally attack someone for being straight, we're smarty-pants'! It's a conspiracy!"
Chatrooms and forums have always been cess pools…
Always.
You give people reinforcement with likes, or near-total anonymity… and they’ll be the worst version of themselves time and time again.
I don’t know what happend so can someone explain
@@sdbzfan1 He just recently got into another controversy where he replied to a post asking which body type u prefer on a female and he said all of them. And that tweet went viral and it just led to the exact same thing. I get that he's kinda cringe but straight up assuming shit about someone such as that he's a pedo or a creep is just wild.
You can even hear the hamster wheel moving when these people try to think
And then not long after that sparks fly and you start to smell smoke and burning oil
the hamster died 22 years ago
For the brain power these people have, saying they have a hamster wheel is being very generous
The lights are on but no one’s home.
So what would happen if the hamster stopped moving?
"Well, Asmongold said he doesn't want the MGS 3 remake to get political... Time to write a 7 paragraph essay about how harmful that is!"
Reddit really is a cesspool of stupidity and circle jerks.
"Why do we love to hate? This insanity in humanity is common." Truer words have never been spoken.
This is crazy man. All of the implying, shoving words in Asmon's mouth, the "I know him more than he knows himself" bs going on Twitter and Reddit is so baffling. It truly comes from a place of moral superiority and a holier than thou mindset, but when met with the fact that they either misinterpreted what he said or are just straight up projecting, they double down on everything and creates a cycle that just can't stop.
Editor really said it best. Twitter is actually retarded...
Twitter and reddit are the most braindead places in social media if they were to be shut down today all the neckbeards and trogolytes would be crying because they realize they cannot function in society without social media
Yeap they will defend this stance to the bitter end. Even if Asmon would profess in the same video that he is going to make a joke and is fully aware of MGS political themes they would still say he didn't really mean it as a joke and it was some kind of dog whistle or whatever conspiracy. Even if they would be cornered with this reality by someone they would still probably say well maybe it was a joke then but what he really thinks is this so EVEN if this time he wasn't 100% serious then it would still be ok to paint him as "negative term" because deep down he is one and just because one time he happened not to be a total "negative term" doesn't mean he stopped being one so he deserves all the backlash anyway.
@@Mytelefe You are 100% correct. The Twitter and Reddit freaks will never in a million years rescind any insults, implications, backlash and/or statements they made because they VERY CLEARLY have a negative bias. And it is very clear they have a negative bias because if they didn't the "political" clip would've never even seen the light of day besides for the people who actually tuned in for that stream.
Reddit and twitter are cancer.
Even if it wasn't sarcasm, saying you hope the game isn't political is the most politically correct, neutral statement. You have to be someone who thinks that games are there only to be your platform for your ideology to take offense in that.
Terminally online people overreacting to misinformation? Imagine that.
I got a feeling even if they know it's sarkasm/ joke, they still go for blood.
@@hafirenggayuda Correct. They *want* to hate him.
It’s no different than asmongold or any of you
@@nuudelz3711 suuuuure, but definitely not you, right? You definitely never judge people by their comments online, yes? Oh you smart and wise observer
@@hafirenggayuda you're giving them too much credit to assume they even 'know' anything
"former bigot" 🤣
Most likely grew up conservative and now LGBT ally. I'm pretty sure that's what he meant
People really care for the dumbest things in life, Asmon's honesty is something I live for. You can't cancel him!
Jesus.....they made hassan look reasonable......THAT A ANOTHER LEVEL
He is about as reasonable as when he supported people committing genocide
@@barrettbirks1058 Think you got it backwards. He is against the faction committing genocide. Like most sane persons are
@@johanjohannesson4746 nah we still remember what he said on the deprogramm podcast right after october 7th. He had his mind made up before any of the retaliation even came in.
Happy Men's Mental Health Month everyone❤
That's a thing? lol
@@planescapedmuch better than rainbow month in every way
@@planescaped watch longbeachgriffy video on it lol
@@planescapedthis is why it exists. Man feel bad? lol let's laugh and ridicule until he deletes his Minecraft account.
the month of the sacred heart
"As a former bigot."
To paraphrase the great Mitch Hedberg:
"I used to be a bigot. I still am, but I used to be one, too."
This is absolutely hilarious.😂😂😂😂😂 Twitter brain rot is CRAZY
Asmongold Derangement Syndrome
they act like he said that's just a joke to defend himself. Which means they saw his response. Which means they literally didn't process the part where he made that joke years before this even happened. thats some next level selective hearing
Shut up bigot ! He was just pretending to joke about it before to cover his clear bigotry and dogwhistle rhetoric ! You think you can fool people but you are just not clever enough with your bigoted ways !
This right here proves the point Kojima was making with MGS2. Wowie
Metal gear solid story became the reality
These people play MGS2 and probably think "OH, THIS IS WHAT *MY* POLITICAL OPPOSITION THINKS LIKE". The ending specifically mentions political correctness as a part of a larger problem, but that line flies over their heads. If you know about echo chambers, that doesn't mean you are immune to falling into one.
@@VitaliyMilonovthis. Whole point about the Patriots A.I. talking about that to Raiden was that it was commentary on the age-old human practice of faction-making. All that info and opportunity to grow, and it's still far too easy to get comfortable staying in an echo chamber, which makes you easy to lead by the nose. The way to counteract it is to embark on your own and find the full context beyond what is fed or affirmed to you.
This is dangerous, terrifying, and empowering. And anyone can do it, they just choose not to.
Literally, the gradual realisation that I was living in the ending of MGS2 was wild. I know authors said the same thing before Kojima did but it was still interesting how prophetic that game ended up being.
@@CloakofAuron It's actually astonishing how spot on the Patriots AI was about a large majority of humans. This is why the AI says it wants to "create context" and that "humans don't deserve free will." Humans have the privilege to think for our own but sadly many of us don't and are easily mislead/misinterpret things, thus making up our own mind about things before even knowing the true context of something. Then when presented with the context some humans STILL assume they are right.
"a tactical hard r" is a crazy phrase lmao
Man, people on the internet LOVE having someone to hate, no matter the reason.
I love my bald king.
Based stinky bald king is BASED
I love you
Even if I did get banned in his chat for typing out a few zzzzs when he played cata. He's still based.
Baron Harkonnen?
asmon, a person whos played the metal gear series, makes a joke about how they dont add politics into a game *infamous for politics*
the joke didnt just fly over their heads it shot into the fucking sun
What we mean by "politics" is completely different from what terminally online twitter activists mean when they say "politics"
There are 2 definitions of politics being used here. The far left activist definition and the one that regular people use.
When an activist says "everything is political" they don't mean that groups of people cannot exist without forming some form of political thought to coexist.
No, they mean that people have always used everything to spread their political agenda and therefor its ok and normal for them to do it to your beloved franchise.
Metal gear is famous for being Anti War and it relays that message to you via its story which you can enjoy regardless of your thoughts on the topic.
A game that is political in the activist interpretation does everything to lecture the viewer about something to the point of insulting anyone who doesnt share the authors exact views.
There is not much story left in a game that is political in that way.
But those are the exact sort of politics that people are talking about when they "hope it doesn't get political".
So glad I’m apart of the UA-cam community. Most of the things here are pretty chill and much more logical than anywhere on the internet. It’s not perfect but it’s actually pretty great to see most people not idiotic
"As a former bigot" guy reminded me of a nutcase at my ex's AA meetings who said he "Used to manipulate people for personal gain" but now he "Manipulates people for good". Guy would also frequently complain that he was tired of being good.
I've also met people like that, unfortunately.
This shitshow will become a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.
Their projection is off the charts.
"as a former bigot"
i can agree 100% you're right
Did people really expect to find intelligent life on twitter?
No that's why they looked on x
The Twitter System is devoid of intelligent life.
“There seems to be no sign of intelligence life anywhere.”
i mean you can search for p*rn on it, atleast that's what i do
feels like looking for fresh food in a trash can
classic "double down" phenomenon, rather than admit they jumped the gun or got something wrong the weak minded will pursue a line of thought with twice the intensity.
just look up: "the most profound moment in gaming history | asmon reacts".
watch that, and you will see he was being sarcastic.
Gaming discourse is in such a state that an obvious joke gets missed.
This reminds me of the south park episode where they create a smug cloud because they are all high and mighty after buying hybrid cars.
The commenter that started off "as a former bigot" is wrapped in smugness
The problem with Jocat is that he decided he wanted to get on their 'good side' and then was shocked when there was no good side to be found.
Asmon on the other hand has no problem with lighting a match and smiling at the chaos that will shortly ensue.
Him justifying the harrassment people got over the Hogwarts legacy game by saying the trans people deal with worse will always put him in the "he deserved it" place. Why should we care about the harrassment he is getting when he waved off other's for no lesser of a cause
You could argue that he wasn't just trying to get on thier good side but honestly thought he was a part of them.
Sadly, he didn't realize they don't want to make things better just find people to justify thier anger.
@@otakubartender7764 wat?
@@Rongez those people think that pixels in a video game are literally genociding them IRL and the suggestion that it's not is transphobic
he constantly tried to side with the LGTVs until eventually they turned on him.
"I hope they don't add gay people". Are they even aware of Volgin and Raikov's relationship when they make this assumption of what Asmon might say? The gay people already existed, and no one cared. Vamp exists, and no one cared. They just want to see "problematic issues" everywhere they look, cause acting like a victim is the only way they get engagement.
These are comments about the video game where the commenters dont even play the video game. It's a lose lose situation to entertain it
There is a difference between gay people and "gay" people.
Basically one just dates dudes while the others are out there naked in public during pride parades.
The deviants ruin the reputation of the regular gay people and that will eventually lead to backlash which is why the regular gay people are trying their best to disavow LGBT.
If it was not for asmon I would have no clue what was going on on Twitter . Twitter's cancer
Asmon has a point. It's probably not even real people arguing about this. It's probably some political discourse bots arguing both sides. The AI chat bots have been doing this since the inception of them. I don't actually use any social media besides YT so I could just be giving my boomer take...
that linus clip is legendary
LinusEugenicsTips
Imagine writing essays about a guy you don't know making a less than 10 word comment about a video game. "It's a joke, its not a joke," go outside.
These people have a lot of free time haha
Not having a job does this to a mf.
At this point they are paying for Asmon's rent in their head.
"It's so stupid I'm struggling to even believe that it's real." This is how I've been feeling the last four years tbh lol
Ten years, for me. Ever since Anita Sarkesian made her series about how America is sexist because of Japanese games like Mario.
It takes one lie to fool someone, but it takes a lot more truth to convince him he's wrong.
This is full-on MGS2 Ending. God damn.
Ah yes, I remember that part of the ending. "Raiden, to control the government, we have to say we hope they don't add gay people to a game with fay people in it and pretend it's a joke"
The scariest part of that ending was the AI kind of had a point. People are genuinely too stupid to think for themselves and very easily to manipulate. People are petty and they will get in their own way if you don't stop them. We see examples of people being manipulated by someone "creating context" basically all the time now.
@@barrettbirks1058
Oh god a redditor escaped his room
@@Bruh_but_why speak for yourself. I smell you from here
@barrettbirks1058
Wait, you're serious? You not watch the video?
The thread is absolutely insane. The number of people on there that have no idea what they’re talking about is genuinely terrifying to me. How can so many people be so so stupid with such confidence!?
Nobody watched the stream or knows the context, they watched a 10 seconds clip and now just following what everyone else is doing
Twitter man. First was contained in tumblr, now has spread to twitter
It’s easy to assume a twitch streamer is braindead to be fair
@@notweewee Ye but what context do you need beyond the clip!?! And the craziest part isn’t the initial reaction.. I guess you could mistake it for a genuinely bad take take. The craziest part is the subsequent defense and doubling down after being told it was sarcasm, trying to argue that it was just a way to avoid being directly bigoted. Just absolutely unbelievable.
@@moonum4567 tumblr banning NSFW stuff cause it to spread its brainrot ideas to the world.
imagine living in a timeline where hassan is one of the voices of reason on any topic.. truely baffling
Bro, JoCat was criticized because he downplayed the harassment people like Pikamee had to endure during the whole hogwarts legacy debacle. He isby no means innocent
The internet is truly a triple edged sword
I don't get it, why triple?
It hurts every side. The people in general, individual people, and even those who run websites.
@@7swordfighter Advantage, disadvantage, and unpredictability. Like Asmon's simple joke was supposed to be nothing more than an advantage but got twisted into a disadvantage. Can be damaging on all sides whenever that happens.
You know it’s bad when even Hassan is defending you
The Elder Scrolls music in the background was a nice, subtle touch.
As a sarcasm and irony enjoyer I find this situation extremely anoying
Elon clearly hasn't purged twitter enough
allowing freedom of speech also means ppl are free to say stupid shit. the real problem is the fact that they aren't ashamed of, and don't learn from, the stupid shit they say.
Elon is not trying to purge twitter... that is what twitter used to do.
Elon is giving free speech for everyone.
This is just the internet in general
Brother, Muskrat has made it ten times worse!
Now it isn't just morons talking bullshit like this, but also rampant racial slurs and literal Nazi propaganda.
He should just delete it.
You should tell them, "Oh, you got me! You're right." and see how they react.
Ahh, good ol days when MGS was apolitical...🙄
People seem to have forgotten guilt trips only work when the person giving matters to the person receiving. If some one doesn't care about you, your ability to make them feel guilty is minimal.
Tell me these people never played MGS before without telling me.
I have played the PSP version but I've never touched the mainline games
Thinking Asmond is being sarcastic
@@barrettbirks1058a lot of people didn't really care at the fact that Metal Gear was based on James Bond movies, George Orwell's 1984 book, and a few Western political references huh. Some people really love to get involve in discussions that they didn't even know.
"he's not joking by the way."
2 friends of mine and I have a running joke for last ~6 years: " modern iq test, if sarcasm goes over their head, they are just that shallow"
Sometimes people are really bad at sarcasm though. Then it's a 10min argument on why they didn't make sense lol.
@@pineappleparty1624 Well, it might have something to do how and where you grow up. When your whole life has been a satire you tend to get it.
@@pineappleparty1624 No they're just being defensive over not putting any critical thought towards ideas they are exposed to.
Stupid people get mad at others when put into a situation where they have to confront their stupidity.
@@zym6687 The OP topic wasnt the twitter people, but all people in general and all sarcasm in general. Sometimes the person just sucks at sarcasm and then gets annoyed when it doesnt make sense to people. So it's not a 100% foolproof logic.
I really like how this whole thing kind of goes along with some of the themes of the series. For example, misinformation, not excepting the truth/only confirming what already you belive in instead of challenging, and others. This is just so ironic lol
People just don't get sarcasm now a days.
Mostly because people are individually sarcastic in different ways, so if you don't know the person very well then it can be rather easy to misinterpret sarcasm as genuineness.
Nah it's due to echo chambers and the fact sarcasm can be difficult to convey through text, hence why reddit does the /s thing. You have to be in the know to catch sarcasm about more complex subjects. I'm sure many people believe I'm serious leaving parody comments imitating crazy, far-leftists lol.
The bigger problem is people refuse to acknowledge when they were wrong in taking something seriously, and instead rationalize how it was never a joke or sarcasm for convoluted reasons with no evidence. I've had many instances of responding seriously to a sarcastic comment and looking like a fool, and I just laugh and hold the L. Takes humility, which these people have none of.
this comment changed my life
The backyard stick shovers always get mad. Get some more Vaseline and calm the f down, Twitter bot
must be all the autism
I feel immensely proud and smug that I have never been on Twitter in my life.
For the most part it's a shit pit, but there's some epic trolling to be found there as well.
@@gs8494how is epic trolling not also part of the shit pitch? Twitter is for autists who won’t go to the doctor
You can use it for business and never actually go into the public forum of it. Say you make artwork for freelance work advertising. You tag it with key words relating to those people. I never saw an unhinged post when I used it lol.
Gonna put "Former bigot" on my business card.
That hard R was well deserved, editor. You're doing fine work.
That is why I love to throw sarcasm jokes. The dumb ones will never get it, easy to filter them out of your circle.
This, sarcasm is the best "dumb" filter I know.
Give me a sarcasm joke
Hmm harsh as sarcasm is more about context so would not be fair on those who didn’t know
@@barrettbirks1058"reddit is full of brilliant and marvelous people. If you think you're a brilliant and intelligent person you should go over there and not interact with us dumb goofy bags because we're really dumb unlike redditors"
@@barrettbirks1058 sure buddy. but i dnt think you will need one
You don't lose when people start hating on you just to hate on you. You lose when you start listening to them like they actually matter. Why the fuck would you do that to yourself?
They are dyinnnngggg to "catch Asmon out" that they gotta clutch to anything they can 😂
"as a former bigot" it definitely made me laugh harder than it should have.
None of them have played metal gear
Asmon literally reacted to a huge video about the Metal Gear Solid 2 reveal that predicted our current political landscape like a year or two ago goodness
Walked into it.
I love this so much. People calling someone else stupid while owning themselves so hard, I didn't know it was possible to self report this hard.
And here I thought EVERYBODY knew about the LA-LI-LU-LE-LO.
That’s all it takes these days to trigger people.
At the point you should sue these tools for slander.
"Stupid people love to group together, to boost eachother's delusions"
Well, it takes one to know one
Gotta love the rabid mob. Even when shown they're wrong and that it was a sarcastic joke, they create a fantasy world around them to justify why they're right in attacking him for it anyway. The brainrot has taken hold at the root and it's there for good.
Asmon is turning into Diogenes.
Philosopher on accident
Next stream he pulls a plucked chicken out of the trash pile
@@FleshWizard69420 "This is a human."
@@sirgoreth9176 "Behold a Man" is what he said to Plato.
Im so lost as to what people online are even complaining about anymore that nothing makes sense looking at it. Living under a rock was (and still is) the best option.
1:58
I really find interesting how they want to add gay people and minorities in every game. most of those games are about war and conflicts, and they treat fiction as reality.
so, they really seek conflict and chaos. to people who claim to be in the right side, of love and peace, they're so eagerly to go "Yess include my image in middle of that carnage, I want to be part of it!"
Absolute G editor
Hassan has more brain cells then twitter users......
let that sink in
Just one more, but I guess that's enough to get a joke.
People really don't understand how out of their mind and obsessed twitter users are.
@@Dice-Z They underestimate their effect on reality, too.
We all like to sit and laugh as if they're just seething into the void online. They're not.
These same people hold the reigns on most of the institutions via mob rule.
These are the people responsible for everything wrong with modern society. We keep laughing at them but, in reality, they exert significant control over society.
If there was nothing left in the world to be outraged over..people would no shit be outraged...over not being able to be outraged anymore.
Yeah, twitter is a genuine cesspit.
It's insane how much bad faith those people have. They aren't even trying to hide the fact that they already have opinion on Asmon and nothing will change that. They will attack him on every occassion they have even if they are blatantly wrong. Just to prove themself that they are right. And they still believe that they are the "good guys".
"I hope they don't add gay people"
There are approximately 2.5 gay people in this game, they don't need to add them.
I actually hope they don't add gay people. There is no need in an mgs game to know everyone's sexuality.
So you're saying love can't bloom on a battlefield?
@@inscription8099my guy there can be a gay character that doesn't mean their gonna focus entirely only that characters sexuality
who's the half gay person?
Well the boss looks like a man now so they are adding minorities.
Well tbf Jocat fed into the hate and tried to shift his content politcally to appease these people which was his biggest mistake.
Yeah never change your stance or the shift to cater up to these people views it will never end well for anyone because when you let your guard down they jump straight into action of making sure you'll be regretting that decision
@bryan...5047 when he got that FF14 crowd his fate was sealed. I play ff14 because a bunch of my freinds do, but man that community is trash basically just twitter but on an mmo.
@@GutsOfRivia I feel it's worse than twitter. if someone hates you from the ff14 fanbase they will find you on every social media and in game to harass you with as many people as they can get with them too.
@Chippaization oh they have certainly tried with me. Difference is I don't really care what mentally ill people say about me online.
MGS tackled with actual politics and philosophy. What we now got is "everything is political"- nonsense. No wonder people can't understand the joke when they've accustomed themselves with constant "political" messaging without depth.
Funnily, this kind of situation is EXACTLY what the AI warned about in the last CODEC call in MGS2: trite, fake information being manipulated and spread around without any proper research regarding its context, creating various "truths" that are most convenient to the people reacting to it.
It is clearly... absolutely your fault for not adding the bazinga at the end of your statement. (bazinga)