Should've Been One Of The Best Rappers EVER! What Stunted Meek Mill's Growth?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Today’s feature really could’ve been one of the greatest rappers of all time. Really. That’s not to say he’s not popular, or rich, or even still pretty good and doing solid numbers. But as the sayings go, with great power comes great responsibility. With great talent and opportunity comes great expectations. The expectations for Meek Mill in 2011 was not to become a good rapper. He was supposed to have been the best. At least of the 2010s. Let’s not get it twisted, what you see we have in hip hop today as far as so called street rappers… Meek Mill was the father of it all, and he came at the perfect time to do so. The 2000s is considered one of the golden ages of rap and hip hop, but by the end of the decade it was time for something new. Something new, but not anything too far off that the generation being ushered out couldn’t champion. What I mean is, the difference between he and the new generation of street rappers is, Meek could actually rap. Like rap rap. So him being the torch bearer of an era of great MCs, that took pride in bars, originality, style, cadence, similes, metaphors, entendres and stories was natural. Meek was cut from a golden era’d cloth and torched in the new young, aggressive, trouble attracting, against the old rules, pain in his music street rap artist. I think you get the point of how much talent and opportunity Meek Mill had, and understand why today, he’s not only looked as a joke or meme on the internet (thanks Drake) but that his career even weighs on the shocking side of disappointment. Is he a star in the rap game? Yes, but then again anyone could be a star in the rap game. Three reasons Meek Mill’s growth was stunted
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Where does Meek rank of 2010s rap?
He is top 5 along with Kendrick Sean Cole and Joey
Top 5. Meek the father of these new era street rappers.
@@dwadeisthegoat2020 I agree with that. Kinda hard to argue that
@@ElLoboLoco_ fax. This nigga dna in alot of todays music.
Top five
Meek getting a “Stunted Growth” video while he’s still actively dropping music got me CRYING 😭.
Im saying bro lol this popped up and i was like yo wtfff! 😭😭💀
All faith in the boy is lost 😂
Yes but his music isn't doing well as it should be
@@osheachampion6472 Man, this dude will give a stunted growth to anybody.
Damn
His social media use ruined his image forever. Imagine where he'd be if he let his team post for him instead?
Facts. Meek has a terrible social media presence. If he stopped E Thugging and just stayed to the music, ppl would think he was solid. Same for Wale too
He didn't didn't have to speak just take action but after that 69 just proved to me what game was saying he's Mickey Mouse in 69 is vulture in a rats body
disagree.
I promise you no one thought Meek was suppose to be one of the greatest of all time, I think people are forgetting what GOAT really means 😂
Fax bruh 💯🤣
I don’t think u understand how cold that nigga is.. he definitely rap good enough to think he had limitless potential.. it’s his substance a lot of times that hold him back
Alot of y'all couldn't have been listening to meek when he dropped dc1 and 2 saying he couldn't of been when one of the greats
@@djjohnson4114 I couldn’t disagree more I’ve been listening to Meek, I e been in numerous debates I can guarantee you NOBODY has ever stated Meek could be one of the greatest rappers of all-time, yes he is a good rapper but no he’s not one of the greatest
@@AjCubia lmao yes I was there for those tapes and again no one ever said he could be one of the greatest that man is ranked exactly where he should be
still had some of the best mixtapes of that era.
I don't think Meeks growth was stunted but u had compelling arguments
It was stunted because he supposed to be up there with Drake he should've blown past Rick Ross by now. He will remain a tier 2 rapper by the way Nicki bailing on him hurt a lil
Meek mill hollering on the track is what stunted his growth.
Nah bro, meek is great but is nothing close to have been the greatest ever. That’s a reach.
really tho
A serious reach. I'm a fan.but He's honestly no where near that.
Big reach
Wild reach
I’m not the biggest meek fan but he definitely had potential to be one of the greatest just like beanie sigel
Idk, I don’t think meek’s growth was stunted. He reached his full potential imo. He lowkey is the GOAT outta philly excluding the Roots. Beans tenure wasn’t as long as meeks
As far as bars cassidy, Malik b come to mind
Gilly get honorable mention for his hustle.
Cass the best from Philly
@@seanreyes7694 said no one ever
Can't be considered the or even a G.O.A.T. of Philly since Black Thought exists. It stands for greatest...it's not a group thing. The G.O.A.T. of Philly is & always will be Black Thought.
@@TerrellMcDuffie you wildin’. Open Philly hip hop secret: Malik b (RIP) wrote all black thoughts classic verses. Malik would freestyle Vs and then forget them. Black thought would cherry pick his punchlines etc. then record them later. UA-cam Dj mister green Malik b. You can hear it. Malik b or Cassidy that’s pretty much it. Cassidy= now/ Malik b =golden era
Meek was never in the convo for GOAT rapper. Thats a super reach.
Nahhh, Meek did his thing man. Wale should be the subject if anyone from MMG
Wale bounced back on his new album
@@younggod3906 One good album after years of failure doesn’t mean his growth wasn’t stunted
He did his thing? He has told you all he hasn't seen on paycheck from his record label his entire career.
I just always wanted to know why he didn't flame Drake up in his diss response. I remembered thinking "ooo Meek about to snap" and it just never happened like that. Biggest disappointment of his career imo. Crazy. Still one of the goats though
He’s still top 10 maybe even top 5 of this generation of MCs🤷🏾♂️
I’m still disappointed in the return diss track against Drake…smh but Pusha T prevailed and hit the champ with the uppercut. To be honest Drake hasn’t been the same since then.
Yeah, he moved too fast in responding, instead of strategizing and coming with a better beat.
The problem was Drake listening to J Prince and not releasing that diss track that he has, that J Prince said would have ended Kanye West's career. They ended up beefing anyways and Drake still hasn't put it out, people were waiting for that response to Pusha T's The Story Of Adidon and didn't get one and Drake basically just gave up by listening to J Prince and not putting out that diss track
Yeah Pusha exposed Drake but Drake still got the mainstream media, radio and tik tok kids on his nuts. But Pusha a better rapper than Drake by far but casual "rap fans" can't name 3 Pusha T songs 🤷🏿♂️
Did youtube delete my comment, or am I tripping
Meek should’ve won that beef. I said it then and I’m still saying it now. For a dude who been rapping on the gritty street corners o Philly since 2003, losing to somebody like Drake is embarrassing for him and should’ve never happened. Should’ve been light work for Meek. Should’ve never lost to a song like Back 2 Back knowing where he came from. He played too much with Drake and was fuckin wit them percs too much around that time. And it costed him.
He was a known battle rapper who lost a beef to a pop rapper who didn't write his own lyrics as he put it.
Those materialistic Rolex raps got redundant real quick. Especially since he was aggressively talking down on the listeners who didn't have the luxuries that being an entertainer afforded him.
Ah yes finally the correct comment
@@theman2k7 thank you
While I didn't have high hopes from Meek I do believe he fumble the bag as being one of the few East Coast cats...2010s....who appeal to the South & West coast fan. He didn't have the weight of being a NYC lyricist or the ghost of any rapper from the boroughs haunted his career.
But I believe the Drake Beef, the foolishness on his IG page & the fact that he never released that significant album is what stunted his growth.
He from Philly....
Meek is from Philly. And he was more of a real-talk keep it 100 type than wordsmith.
Dreams and Nightmares is a significant album imo. The intro alone is iconic.
NYC is irrelevant when talking about Meek lol he’s from Philly.
Thank you for not mentioning his public relationships as apart of his stunted growth. Meek, like many talented men, find enough struggle when trying to develop themselves before a love relationship comes into the picture. Hopefully he will get his footing & meet his own expectations
Dreams and Nightmares is that shit. When my Eagles came out to that in the superbowl I knew we was winning. He's made a nice career but he should have been bigger
DC mixtapes are still my fave the beats and his rhymes were insane
I absolutely addicted to your content, brother. I love how you bring the listener in with an intro that puts the artist in perspective. It's brilliant. As for Meek, he was never my thing. Hated his flow and delivery. And Drake did body with Back to Back and this is from a guy that isn't even remotely a fan of Drake
I don’t think Meeks growth was stunted but I still like the points u bring up .. I would love to see videos on Tory Lanez and soulja boy next .. ps I love both the music and sports stunted growth vids .. keep doing u bro
The internet stunted Meeks growth 🤷🏾♂️
He did it to hisself
Nah he fucked up trying to call out drake out the blue DWMTM literally was one of the best albums of 2015
Ima big fan of your videos but meek is lowkey one of the successful of the 2010s you had krit Cole wale Sean Asher Roth wale Sean drake Kendrick Lamar and more from that class and he’s one of the few out that’s still doing better his career was revived after the prison stint!! He’s lowkey the best rapper out right now I can’t believe you made this lol
Yea I don’t get some of his selections some times lol there is more deserving artists he could pick
He saying he shouldn't be the "lowkey" best rapper he should be clear cut. Based on where he started. Kinda the same as the Chris Brown video. Like he still dope but he should actually be on a bit higher level than he is. He is a star not a superstar. Superstars are known by non hip hop fans young old black white.
@@ducejones3298 bro meek mill was never on the same level as Chris brown what are u saying 😂😂 Chris brown was being compared as the second coming on MJ meek never got those comparisons
@@Jonathanfifer00 i didn't say he was on CB level. Im saying he did a video on him as well. And CB is the best singer/performer in the world to me. But he isnt viewed how he could have been. I am not a huge Meek fan. But everyone around me was. Bottom line i was saying i understand why he made the video.
@@ducejones3298 I understand why he did a CB video but meek mill wasn’t worth it in my opinion , he’s exactly where he should be at . Him saying he could have been a goat is also a lie lol
I dont think he's stunted...he did alright for himself
You lost me at "really could've been the greatest rapper of all time". What the???!!!... Kool G Rap, Rakim, Nas, Biggie, 2Pac, Eminem, Black Thought, Jay-Z, Kane, GZA, Jadakiss. How many more do I need to name that he's not even close to?
Fax💯🎯
That’s why he’s a could’ve been lol.
Meek Mill music is not the same anymore without his producer Jahlil Beatz 💯
Nah bro.. meek is easily one of the top artists in the game right now.. everything that seemingly hurt a few years back ultimately played to his advantage.. philly stand up!! 💯
HE DEF NOT BUT HE WAS
Yeah he was on his way to the top but he should've left the lover boy alone.
Nah Meek fumbled...Lil Baby done passed him smh
@@krazytae3107 but championships came out after all of this.. and he just dropped sumthin a couple months ago.. baby is doing his thing now but meek doin his too
@@samgunz1 I love Meek but Championships was his peak and him being locked up for bullshit hyped that album but it was classic....Meek fell off fr and he still ain't get a artist popping on his label fr...Not even a good boss
I’m a fan of your page bro but cmon why would u do meek mill? There’s so many other worthy artist that u could have done
Then unfollow
@@scottydippin1984 my guy it is just a single criticism nothing serious enough to unsubscribe 😭
List some of them? Personally I think this one is long overdue
@@scottydippin1984 bro relax dude I’m not entitled to have an opinion? Lol I clearly said I’m a fan of the page
@@dinkyboss young joc, rich boy , oj da Juiceman too name a few
You say everyone could’ve been the greatest rapper ever lol.
This Comment Hit The Nail On The Head And Should Be Pinned. The Lines Are Getting More Blurred Each Video
Technically they COULD. Though obviously some had WAY better shots than others lol
Facts! He’s always reaching!
He said one of greatest in the 2010s not once did he say all time
@@VaughnnTooRaww 0:52 🤔
i dont think his growth was stunted cause after jail he was right back even after the drake beef
nah he feel off
Hopping around like a bunny rabbit on the tennis court was the 1. Running from 69 looked bad too
"Is that a world tour? or your Girl's tour?" is one of the coldest call outs in history! I know Meek punched a wall when he heard that line...
“I kno that u gotta be a thug for her this ain’t wat she meant wen she told u to open up more” 😭😭 first time I heard back to back I restarted the song right then and wanted Meek to destroy drake but it was @ that moment I knew 🥴🥴🥴
@@djjohnson4114 yo I'm saying!!! DAMN!
That shit was wack
Naw u trippin with this one bro Meek Mill Career is still alive and successful
Facts meek lost badly but he is not growth stunnted
The internet wanna see Meek lose so bad.😭 #thiswasnotneeded
Not even a little bit 😂
Meek blew up after he got released from prison and went straight to the Super Bowl
Meek just sold out the garden with a album that sold 90k he is a legend and still going
Meek certified in the game already but this video was entertaining tho 😂💯
2010 ain’t no damn golden era of hip hop
I really love your channel and I fully agree. Yes he became succesful (money wise) but is he respected as a rapper?? I forgot he was a rapper rapper
Back to back 😵💫 like how dh was that a “diss track”
As a overall song its not a hitter its jus those direct lines drake delivered and made it easy to pick a winner.
It’s a few guys from MMG that were more stunted than Meek. Stalley, Fat Trel, or Pill all have a story behind them not panning out. This was good but it feels like we’re already calling Meek’s career finished. He’s still a relevant artist even if he gets clowned all the time.
Big facts
True, but Meek may have hit a ceiling. He may not be stunted, but he has hit his max and doesn't care to change or adapt to break that threshold
Stalley was always a underground grind staple on some curren$y type shit and fat trel was stunted but was basically always gonna be looped into that street anthem kinda Dude like Mo3 or Dolph or Kevin Gates now Pill you gotta big point with that one
I don't agree with the title but you make valid points
meeks growth is not stunted , a legend, maybe he couldnt be the trinity of cole, drake, and kendrick, but naw not stunted
And he did have one of the most impressive comebacks of any rapper whose career was declared dead after the Drake beef, the jail stint and Nicki Minaj breakup.
You trippin Meek is the greatest street rapper ever and honestly that exceeded his potential. He became a symbol of hope, started making power moves and goes platinum damn near every time he drops. What more could he have done?
He should’ve released war pain right after back to back 🤦🏿
Niggas don’t even mention war pain bro
@@tyrekesantana8588 fax🤦🏿
I Lost All Respect For Meek When He Clowned Those Waterboys In Atlanta & Then Scooped Up The Minor In The Video. *Meek Lost All Street Credit When 69 Pulled Up On Him & He Didn’t Do Nothing. Meek Didn’t Even Ask For A Fade SMH*
I'm sure him not being too bright at something to do with it
Like alot.
Lol.
😂😂
You mentioned Stalley and he was one time starting to make a name. What happened to him?
This is the MMG artist who’s growth was stunted lmao
Greatest rapper of all time really
I enjoy this series but you are very generous with labeling rappers or their work the "greatest" or "top 3" or classic. I know some people who went into Albums/records/rappers with high expectations off your videos and were completely turned off hiphop, cause they felt "if this is the best hiphop has to offer, why bother"? You might not realise it yet but you now have a voice in hiphop and you actually influence people's decisions regarding the genre so you've got to let them know it's in your opinion when proclaiming something great, because people who don't know better would think its a concensus in hiphop.
i must admit Meek's catalog doesn't pull u in, but he is STAMPED innis shit fasho
Meek Mill is doing well he growth is not stunted.
I like your content Meek’s name still holds water in the industry he’s been around 10 years so I feel this video is a reach… but this comment is before I start the video
Meek Mill been on a marathon run since the Flamerz mixtapes. He's solidified
Bro well done and much props to your work.
I just came here for the comments on this one......
I’m ngl Meek overrated af
It was his twitter fingers lol
Lmao i was done after all of the yelling on the Mic.
Right that dries out quick !
1.) He lost a beef to Drake (that's embarrassing in and of itself).
2.) He goofy on social media. That's a bad look for a rap ngga.
3.) He bunnyhopped on camera for Billionaire Philly 76ers owner, Michael Rubin. They're supposed to be "friends" but, he made Meek shuck n' jive. I still cringe when I see that.
Can you do cyhi the prynce?
REACHING
Do one on Asher Paul Roth please cause this kind of a reach tbh
His overconfidence, his mouth, and his freaking Twitter fingers 🤦🏾♂️SMH
If they weren’t the reasons he would’ve been not just a legend, maybe one of the best
We came from no Vaseline, real mfing g’s, dollars & sense, hit em up to back to back like huh
Tbh Back to Back was disrespectful just off the fact that Drake treated that beef like it was a war while them other diss tracks was just made to get under the skin of whoever it was aimed at Drake said he was gon buy some bottles for Charlemagne The God and he did exactly that
Back To Back should NEVER be mentioned with those all time diss tracks. These Aubrey fans are hilarious & had the audacity to quote that World Tour line like it was a hot bar.
You tripping on this one ……
Meek the best. Waddup milly
Reed richards with the REACH
His growth never stunted 🤦🏽♂️ lol
You literally hit the nail on the head!!
Meek had DMX’s cosign and torch but decided to do prison reform rap. That’s what really stunted his growth. He should’ve kept doing songs like Dreams and Nightmares. That was his lane but he abandoned it.
I like Meek my only problem with him is that he's very emotional.
Naaaa this video should get deleted this was a bad take 😂 Meek been one of the most consistent in the game for close to 10 years now with crazy business moves ,Reform and he’s most definitely a legend where I’m from he went further than his expectations in life and in the rap game ICONIC! #Pa4TheWin🏀
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Naw bro. Meek took a major L from Drake and bounced back.
I definitely see the growth stunts even with the success he’s had I definitely expected more when I first heard DC 1 in 2011 he lived out 85% of his potential which will make most pause when they hear stunted growth? “Like how?” I think not bossing up and not signing his own artist to Dreamchaser Records hurt em Snupes passing may have scared him from not trying again I don’t know. But with that meek still has a top 5 stamp in 2010s era lyricalweights but just out of the Top 3 much respect to em either way but he could’ve been #1
His growth was definitely stunted but it wasn't stopped
His Social Media Persona Contributed Largely To This , I Won’t Lie .
You definitely bugging TF out. Meek was never seen as a great lyricist - never. His energy is what got him popping. Nothing about him makes me feel like he's really a star and he never comes across like he has the ability to think deep enough to rise above the average street dude. He always got alot of support in the industry and that seems like the only real reason that he's successful
@Str8 Fwd he definitely gotta nice pen, I think him being able to flow on any beat gave him lead way also
@@therlbred850 His pen always been lukewarm and he keeps the same screaming flow on every song. He was never good enough to even hang with the second tier lyricists of his time in the past or even right now. He don't have clever flows with complex rhyme schemes, he don't got good metaphors or similes (if he has any), he's not good at telling stories. Nobody really puts him on features because why would they? Nobody says "Meek Killed that verse" never.
Rass Kass, Gillie the Kid, Juelz Santana, Rah Digga, Eness, Lupe Fiasco, Cyhi The Prince, Drag On, Souls of Mischief, Monies Love, Kurupt, Shyhiem, Helter Skelter, Beanie Sigel, Joe Budden, Maino... Do some of them.
He already did one on Gillie, Juelz, Lupe, Beanie Sigel and Joe Budden.
I think Meek Mandela has gotten as big as he was ever going to be and his growth wasn't really stunted. His social media antics, playground-esque responses to Drake, and his propensity to hypocrisy turned people off him and knocked him down a few pegs. To me, he doesn't have the acumen, charisma, or "it factor" to achieve much longevity in the industry or is someone who was ever going to attain superstar status. He's just a good underdog/rags to riches story. B.o.B. and Kid Cudi are much more deserving of "Stunted Growth" episodes. Keep up the good work!
I’m not saying his growth wasn’t stunted, I just don’t think it was stunted enough to be on this channel.
Expensive Pain is a great album, y’all should go listen if you haven’t already.
Meek is definitely one of the best ever and top 5 from Philly
I could've sworn this video was uploaded before... This a reupload, Stunted?
Been waiting for this
Please do a Big k.r.i.t stunted video
You got to famous dex. He may have not been the best but it would be good to see a stunted growth video on him
Meek growth wasn’t stunted MyG 💯
#LoudBoys
Come on now...... Meek as a GOAT? At best he had best of year credits to aim for. Back to back didn't kill him. Drake got slaughtered by a real MC. Meek got blinded by the lights. Nikki didn't lose focus, Meek did.
Meek def got a big head from his early success…
Can you do Bravehearts
Committing sins in Cincinnati, lil drive by ina all black caddyyy , a 21 gun salute! Ya last words be pls Joe don't shoot.. Braveheart man💪🏾
When Pusha T Hit Drake hard on Story of Adidon, Meek Millz was exposed because he was a battle rapper and supposedly but his response was " I get money, Im really from the streets so I don't bother with corny rap dudes like Drake bcuz I got real killaz with me and I know where this can go". B.S. Im from Phiily and It hurt my soul to witness, then the $20 given to 8 kids on video was the last straw. Dont EVER forget ya ribs were touchin with dirty braids just like those kids. Meek told one kid " Get ya khands off my truck" and the kid looked petrified smh I WAS ASHAMED for black men everywhere at that moment.
The troubling thing about his post about not getting paid from his record company is the fact he said he needs lawyers!🤯🤔🤦🏿♂️ Bro u don't got your affairs in order!?
Honestly meek got too cought up in trying to be the "hottest in the streets". For a dude like future, that's his lane. Meek was suppose to carry and present himself as a MC.
Meek still got the streets fucked up he’s the leader, He is the streets Hov the streets diddy
This vid was a reach. If you need more content jus say that lol
Yeah meek is definitely one of the hardest out right now and definitely has had a great career but anything that was a growth stunt was the fact that he went to jail and his damn judge kept putting him in jail for no reason so I don't understand why you didn't mention him going to jail now at least one time or make it as if it was a stunning or growth stunt
Meek is another memphis bleek to me just a modern day version, he's always been mid.
Lol come on not Memphis Bleek. That's hilarious 😆
The reason why his growth was stunted is because he’s not one of the greatest rappers and never was.
If you’re arguably the best to come out of your city then you’re one of the greatest. Just because he may be top 50 instead of top 10 doesn’t mean he isn’t a great
He may not have been exactly elite, but he sure was a prominent figure in the 2010's.
Yea I don't care what you say about him Meek can rap like rap rap
Facts