Thank you so much for this workaround. I was getting really stressed out when my new Babyface didn't work properly with OBS on my Mac, when it works so easily in Windows 10 already. FYI, for anyone having issues with no signal going out into blackhole. You must make sure that "Main" master button is toggled to on for your input channel in Ladiocast. Cheers.
This is very interesting. There are a lot of us who use standard DJ software to stream our broadcast to a platform. I use Virtual DJ Pro (VDJ), which plays the music, inputs the mic and sound effects, and has a streaming encoder built-in. It would be nice to see an RME tutorial on doing Livestreams with Virtual DJ, Serato, or other standard DJ software, using regular Windows PC.
YEAH! Got it! Thanks for this Video, it´s easy to follow and just takes a few minutes to fix it. One important advice: Blackhole is not visible after installation, there is no icon and nothing in the "Programmes" folder, but anyway, you can select BlackHole as an Input Option on OBS.
IT's really weird to use that 3rd-party apps while I'm using RME the most powerful interfaces with powerful routing options. So it's the only way that I can stream with OBS on Mac?
I use OBS to record and this system works great as long as you don't want mic and daw audio being mixed on the same channel. I use JACK to create an additional connection for mic/aux 2 where I route the daw audio and I use the loopback function on my Totalmix to route only the mic
Heya friends, I got an idea for next video(s): nowadays with musicians being essentially locked down with no bigger events on the horizon, I'd say it's great time to make a video of thorough explanation with tips and examples about using TotalMix FX internal DSP processing (EQ, Dyn, FX) for actual "live" use on real instruments - I personally play drums and since I figured out the built-in sound processors are actually usable and can be recorded/streamed (if ticked "Enable EQ+D on Record), which makes RME interfaces usable as sound mixing consoles - I'd really like to some some more in-depth use cases, the included presets are great to start with, but I'd like to see some useful tweaks :)
Yes, TotalMix can be used as(small) live mixer as well. Besides the presets you can use we can understand you want to improve your sound with EQ and dynamics settings, but that is just basic sound engineering. But we are planning Webinars where you can ask us those topics. Please follow us on facebook for more updates.
I've been struggling to set up a workable screen recording setup when working in FL Studio. I am using QuickTime Player to record my screen, but the issue I am facing is that my microphone input is being double recorded, one directly from the interface and the other from my DAW. I have no clue why this is happening. Would greatly appreciate a video on how to do screen recordings on macOS and how to control the routing of the microphone input.
I have a question, this has had me stumped. I have a Babyface Pro fs and TotalMix Fx, I use Logic Pro X - I created a mix bus that goes to my stereo out (output 1&2 monitors) On the mix bus I created a send to output 3&4 (my headphones). That track then has Slate VSX on it as an insert. I'm trying to record audio in OBS but the audio picks up whatever my daw out is which is what I'm hearing (VSX Audio). Is there a way I can send the audio thats going to my main mixbus to OBS and still be able to listen to my 3&4 vsx audio?
Hey man, thank you so much for this very insightful video. Does this setup work sending mic audio and MIDI keyboard (software instruments) from DAW (Logic) to OBS?
I'm confused, why you selected input 13 & 14 in Ladiocast instead of ADAT 3&4 which had loopback enable. This's kinda confusing everytime I tried to follow this video. I have RME FF800
Hello, Ladiocast was working for 20 seconds. after that it crahsed my macbook; it's impossible to run this program. are there better options? totalmix should be able to do the loopback directly no?
minute 0´ 22.- I do not understand why you say that the problem is that OBS only recognizes channels 1 and 2.... Because if this is the case, I could send my Ableton to 1 and 2 of Software playback in Totalmix, and then sent to 1, 2 of Hrawwaare outputs, then apply Loopback to send to 1, 2 for hardware Inputs and the in OBs choose Interface Fireceface and would take 1 and 2 and ALL SOLVED.... But I tried and OBs do not read 1, and 2 as you say.. Could you please explain to me what is really happening here?... COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS?.. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.
That's by far the most intelligent post :-). That's what bothers me too! Since years noone get's fixed an issue, that a $ 9.99 soundcard from rummage table doesn't have. Noone is able or willing (as proven by your post which stays unanswered... "surprisingly") to answer a simple question. A high-priced soundcard doesn't work with the most common broadcasting software and noone seems to care. Only some cheap workarounds: Loop here... route to there, loopback to this... Yeahhh great, that's why I bought a high-end soundcard, to rush the signal across several softwares, wonderful idea!! It keeps me wondering why noone explains in plain english, why RME or OBS or maybe both failed in solving a problem that affects a basic function. We get answers like "This is a common issue with OBS across all interfaces." Ohh really?? Well then lets go back to sleep... Just my five cents!
Hi guys, I'm on Mac Pro 5.1 and macOS 10.13.6 HS, with RME BabyFace Pro FS.. I used to make videotutorials here on YT using Pro Tools as main DAW, with ScreenFlow v6/7 but it has always many bugs and issues, I'm tired of if and I'm trying to use OBS. I'm actually able to route Pro Tools audio signal to OBS and I've found the way to route mike signal to OBS too (it's connected to input 2 of Babyface Pro FS). But I can't record mike signal as separate track, it still goes on the same track of Pro Tools audio. How can I fix it and record mic signal to a separate track? I've alredy installed Ladiocast, Blackhole and SoundFlower. Thank you.
No audio shows up in Ladiocast. I believe I have it routed properly. TotalMix shows sound through 1/2 AN (ableton) and 3/4 AN (ableton) and 7/8 ADAT (which I've routed 1/2 ableton through and enabled loopback). Dropbox pic for reference: www.dropbox.com/s/4n8hey5zdz66afa/Screen%20Shot%202020-05-30%20at%2011.52.15%20AM.png?dl=0. Any suggestions? I've spent days and different work arounds trying to get OBS to stream my Ableton setup. One workaround was to create an AggregateOutputDevice as Babyface+Blackhole, and then having Blackhole as the input on OBS, but when setting that as the output in Ableton, it added noticeable latency and crackling. I've read good things about "Loopback by Rogue Amoeba" but it's $100 and I'm wondering if a fix will be coming soon, through just TotalMix and OBS, no other needed software or virtual cards, since so many people are aiming to do just this, with the increase of streaming. Thanks for your insight!
had the same problem but fixed it. you have to allow the internal microphone for some reason for ladiocast to show audio. even if you don't use it. you probably clicked disallow the very first time it opened.
Hi, I have a lot of trouble trying to sync the audio from Blackhole in OBS. I try to hard enter a sync offset number for the audio since the audio comes before the image, but it totally ignores it. What can be done? Thank you!
Guys, Ladiocast doesn't show me any option to change the channels for the input. It just says L/R on the left side as well. Any workaround for this?. Thanks
@@RMEAudio That's simply not true. It works here with (1)Apogee Duet, (2) Behringer UMC1820, (3)Behringer UCA222, (4) Behringer FLOW8. The limitation with OBS: you can only use the first two Channels (1+2) and thats well known. My brand new RME Fireface UFXII is not recognized by OBS at all. That's unacceptable. This must be a driver issue with core audio. The Volume Controls on the Mac Keyboard don't work as well. Please confirm deliver an updated driver.
How to set up with Room Eq Wizard on Windows? Making a calibration for soundcard and using measurement mic? I know it is not specific to RME audiointerface question but the setup part is. I found some other videos but the GUI on the software is different (version) I did manage todo something but I'm not sure that did I get the soundcard noise taken out correctly with my settings so I'm not sure did I get it right or not.
Universal Studio needs no freeky plugins for OBS i just tried the Apollo Twin this is away better sound as the whole software strange software u installed. this is a honest comment no hating here RME needs to look for this
Can I ask, is there a way to route the Zoom incoming audio to a separate Audi channel in RME TotalMix, for instance, am using Ladiocast and Blackhole to send my audio to Zoom, and in OBS, am using iShowU to bring audio in from Zoom, would be great if I could bring that into TotalMix on a different channel to my computers generic audio channel on TotalMix, so can a) set lower levels for computer content, and then apply a different mix for my headphones so that I’m not hearing my own voice/mic. Sorry, I complicate myself by even explaining it! And yes am Mac based.
@@RMEAudio Thanks, I had a look at rogueamoeba, but wasnt sure if that could do it. Just don't want to be installing loads and loads of Apps to discover they don't work! But I'll give that a go. Thanks!
The audio quality is not good using blackhole with ucx ii. I think my OBS days are over for showcasing mastering. This sound quality doesn't do the masters justice. Sadly.
In Windows 10 you can select any Totalmix FX loopback channel from a Windows sound device in OBS. So you don't need an app like Ladiocast and a virtual Soundcard.
Hi there, I am trying to set this up. As far as totalmix concerns i have set everything correctly I guess cause after selecting an audio output and activating the loopback function, i can see the respective input in my Ableton on the same channels as the output with loopback activated. i.e. i have set Output 7-8 with loopback on and see input 7-8 getting the audio in my Ableton. Ladiocast on the other hand, does not see this audio coming in on channel 7-8. Whatever output I chose, Ladiocast ignores to see the incoming channel. I use Input 1 and have the Main button activated. Is there an alternative for Ladiocast or can you please help me setting this up correctly? Thanks in advance Darco
You must also select input 7/8 in LadioCast. Sometimes it does not work properly in Ladiocast at the beginning and you have to select the interface and inputs again to make it work.
@@RMEAudio I checked the privacy settings in the preferences but Ladiocast is not blocked or whatsoever. Th crazy part is that if i select built in mic as input source, ladiocast still does not show an incoming sign although i can simply record the audio in my DAW, so it is surely working. It's just ladiocast nog getting it or something. Is there another route for Ladiocast or is this the only app for this purpose? We have a show friday with my daughters music class which we want to broadcast and I am desperatley searching to get it to work.
Solvedddd!!!!! didt understand the fact you can do the mix from the total mix,,, i was creating 2 aux inputs in OBS....like i was doing with my Focusrite scarlett.... Acttualy find it super confortable like this, so you can have more control mixing, even assigning midi controllers to the rme.... NICE!
Andreas Franke every channel can be a loopback channel . Just assign a channel u want to as loopback and it is what u asked for. Every channel has a extra button for this just check it in ur mixer and have fun.
Thank you so much for this workaround. I was getting really stressed out when my new Babyface didn't work properly with OBS on my Mac, when it works so easily in Windows 10 already.
FYI, for anyone having issues with no signal going out into blackhole. You must make sure that "Main" master button is toggled to on for your input channel in Ladiocast.
Cheers.
this was so helpful - been a big fan of the BFPFS and the RME aftersales service but all this RME content is the cherry on top :)
For anyone wondering this also works with Discord
This is very interesting. There are a lot of us who use standard DJ software to stream our broadcast to a platform. I use Virtual DJ Pro (VDJ), which plays the music, inputs the mic and sound effects, and has a streaming encoder built-in. It would be nice to see an RME tutorial on doing Livestreams with Virtual DJ, Serato, or other standard DJ software, using regular Windows PC.
YEAH! Got it! Thanks for this Video, it´s easy to follow and just takes a few minutes to fix it. One important advice: Blackhole is not visible after installation, there is no icon and nothing in the "Programmes" folder, but anyway, you can select BlackHole as an Input Option on OBS.
Thanks for your clarification :-)
Why is there not just an update to make the outputs of TotalMix selectable in Mac the way that it’s possible in PC?
IT's really weird to use that 3rd-party apps while I'm using RME the most powerful interfaces with powerful routing options.
So it's the only way that I can stream with OBS on Mac?
I use OBS to record and this system works great as long as you don't want mic and daw audio being mixed on the same channel. I use JACK to create an additional connection for mic/aux 2 where I route the daw audio and I use the loopback function on my Totalmix to route only the mic
could you make a video about that?
Thank You RME for the best!
Soundflower and LadioCast will work as well. And as someone mentioned make sure your audio interface and LadioCast at set to same sample rate.
Blackhole doesn't suddenly conk out like Soundflower has tendency to do.
Heya friends,
I got an idea for next video(s):
nowadays with musicians being essentially locked down with no bigger events on the horizon, I'd say it's great time to make a video of thorough explanation with tips and examples about using TotalMix FX internal DSP processing (EQ, Dyn, FX) for actual "live" use on real instruments - I personally play drums and since I figured out the built-in sound processors are actually usable and can be recorded/streamed (if ticked "Enable EQ+D on Record), which makes RME interfaces usable as sound mixing consoles - I'd really like to some some more in-depth use cases, the included presets are great to start with, but I'd like to see some useful tweaks :)
Yes, TotalMix can be used as(small) live mixer as well. Besides the presets you can use we can understand you want to improve your sound with EQ and dynamics settings, but that is just basic sound engineering. But we are planning Webinars where you can ask us those topics. Please follow us on facebook for more updates.
I've been struggling to set up a workable screen recording setup when working in FL Studio. I am using QuickTime Player to record my screen, but the issue I am facing is that my microphone input is being double recorded, one directly from the interface and the other from my DAW. I have no clue why this is happening. Would greatly appreciate a video on how to do screen recordings on macOS and how to control the routing of the microphone input.
I have a question, this has had me stumped.
I have a Babyface Pro fs and TotalMix Fx, I use Logic Pro X - I created a mix bus that goes to my stereo out (output 1&2 monitors) On the mix bus I created a send to output 3&4 (my headphones). That track then has Slate VSX on it as an insert. I'm trying to record audio in OBS but the audio picks up whatever my daw out is which is what I'm hearing (VSX Audio).
Is there a way I can send the audio thats going to my main mixbus to OBS and still be able to listen to my 3&4 vsx audio?
Hey man, thank you so much for this very insightful video. Does this setup work sending mic audio and MIDI keyboard (software instruments) from DAW (Logic) to OBS?
I'm confused, why you selected input 13 & 14 in Ladiocast instead of ADAT 3&4 which had loopback enable. This's kinda confusing everytime I tried to follow this video. I have RME FF800
Hello, Ladiocast was working for 20 seconds. after that it crahsed my macbook; it's impossible to run this program. are there better options? totalmix should be able to do the loopback directly no?
Extra Tip: Make sure that LadioCast is set to the same sample rate as your RME interface. Otherwise no audio will show up in LadioCast.
Good point!
I'm currently sending a 48k stream to ladiocast 13000 set to 44.1, so it would seem this is not an issue anymore.
Jack for MacOs is also working fine for that purpose you will need only Jack (not LadioCast + BlackHole)
Hi Mathieu, do you have a link to the Jack for Macos app? Thanks for your time already👍🏻
minute 0´ 22.- I do not understand why you say that the problem is that OBS only recognizes channels 1 and 2.... Because if this is the case, I could send my Ableton to 1 and 2 of Software playback in Totalmix, and then sent to 1, 2 of Hrawwaare outputs, then apply Loopback to send to 1, 2 for hardware Inputs and the in OBs choose Interface Fireceface and would take 1 and 2 and ALL SOLVED.... But I tried and OBs do not read 1, and 2 as you say.. Could you please explain to me what is really happening here?... COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THIS?.. I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.
That's by far the most intelligent post :-). That's what bothers me too! Since years noone get's fixed an issue, that a $ 9.99 soundcard from rummage table doesn't have. Noone is able or willing (as proven by your post which stays unanswered... "surprisingly") to answer a simple question.
A high-priced soundcard doesn't work with the most common broadcasting software and noone seems to care.
Only some cheap workarounds: Loop here... route to there, loopback to this... Yeahhh great, that's why I bought a high-end soundcard, to rush the signal across several softwares, wonderful idea!!
It keeps me wondering why noone explains in plain english, why RME or OBS or maybe both failed in solving a problem that affects a basic function.
We get answers like "This is a common issue with OBS across all interfaces."
Ohh really?? Well then lets go back to sleep...
Just my five cents!
Thank you guys that was very helpful
Hi guys,
I'm on Mac Pro 5.1 and macOS 10.13.6 HS, with RME BabyFace Pro FS..
I used to make videotutorials here on YT using Pro Tools as main DAW, with ScreenFlow v6/7 but it has always many bugs and issues, I'm tired of if and I'm trying to use OBS.
I'm actually able to route Pro Tools audio signal to OBS and I've found the way to route mike signal to OBS too (it's connected to input 2 of Babyface Pro FS).
But I can't record mike signal as separate track, it still goes on the same track of Pro Tools audio.
How can I fix it and record mic signal to a separate track?
I've alredy installed Ladiocast, Blackhole and SoundFlower.
Thank you.
No audio shows up in Ladiocast. I believe I have it routed properly. TotalMix shows sound through 1/2 AN (ableton) and 3/4 AN (ableton) and 7/8 ADAT (which I've routed 1/2 ableton through and enabled loopback). Dropbox pic for reference: www.dropbox.com/s/4n8hey5zdz66afa/Screen%20Shot%202020-05-30%20at%2011.52.15%20AM.png?dl=0. Any suggestions? I've spent days and different work arounds trying to get OBS to stream my Ableton setup. One workaround was to create an AggregateOutputDevice as Babyface+Blackhole, and then having Blackhole as the input on OBS, but when setting that as the output in Ableton, it added noticeable latency and crackling. I've read good things about "Loopback by Rogue Amoeba" but it's $100 and I'm wondering if a fix will be coming soon, through just TotalMix and OBS, no other needed software or virtual cards, since so many people are aiming to do just this, with the increase of streaming. Thanks for your insight!
had the same problem but fixed it.
you have to allow the internal microphone for some reason for ladiocast to show audio. even if you don't use it. you probably clicked disallow the very first time it opened.
Hi, I have a lot of trouble trying to sync the audio from Blackhole in OBS. I try to hard enter a sync offset number for the audio since the audio comes before the image, but it totally ignores it. What can be done? Thank you!
So is this way stable enough like when I'm using RME in Windows?(loopback function)
Guys, Ladiocast doesn't show me any option to change the channels for the input. It just says L/R on the left side as well.
Any workaround for this?.
Thanks
Perfect video guys!! Thank you for helping and what a reactivity !!!!
We're doing our best ;-)
Why doesn't OBS recognize any inputs from RME interfaces? Is it an issue with drivers, or core audio?
This is a common issue with OBS across all interfaces.
@@RMEAudio That's simply not true. It works here with (1)Apogee Duet, (2) Behringer UMC1820, (3)Behringer UCA222, (4) Behringer FLOW8. The limitation with OBS: you can only use the first two Channels (1+2) and thats well known. My brand new RME Fireface UFXII is not recognized by OBS at all. That's unacceptable. This must be a driver issue with core audio. The Volume Controls on the Mac Keyboard don't work as well. Please confirm deliver an updated driver.
Rogue Amoeba Audio Hijack will do all of this in one program instead of two separate programs.
How to set up with Room Eq Wizard on Windows? Making a calibration for soundcard and using measurement mic? I know it is not specific to RME audiointerface question but the setup part is. I found some other videos but the GUI on the software is different (version) I did manage todo something but I'm not sure that did I get the soundcard noise taken out correctly with my settings so I'm not sure did I get it right or not.
This is very off topic question. Can you please write an email to support@rme-audio.com if you have any questions regarding your topic.
Any alternatives to Ladiocast please? The software is outdated and keeps crashing.
Funny thing - it only crashes when using dark mode. I am running the software in a Mac mini 2018, OS Monterey 12.7.6
Is their any way to rout reverb and delay in mix fx (or other way) so you can record it like this? Pleas Answer /Dennis
Hey Dennis, yes there is. We already made a video about it on our channel.
Universal Studio needs no freeky plugins for OBS i just tried the Apollo Twin this is away better sound as the whole software strange software u installed. this is a honest comment no hating here RME needs to look for this
Can I ask, is there a way to route the Zoom incoming audio to a separate Audi channel in RME TotalMix, for instance, am using Ladiocast and Blackhole to send my audio to Zoom, and in OBS, am using iShowU to bring audio in from Zoom, would be great if I could bring that into TotalMix on a different channel to my computers generic audio channel on TotalMix, so can a) set lower levels for computer content, and then apply a different mix for my headphones so that I’m not hearing my own voice/mic. Sorry, I complicate myself by even explaining it! And yes am Mac based.
Yes, you can with the app Loopback (not free). There you can route audio from different apps to different playback channels. rogueamoeba.com/loopback/
@@RMEAudio Thanks, I had a look at rogueamoeba, but wasnt sure if that could do it. Just don't want to be installing loads and loads of Apps to discover they don't work! But I'll give that a go. Thanks!
The audio quality is not good using blackhole with ucx ii. I think my OBS days are over for showcasing mastering. This sound quality doesn't do the masters justice. Sadly.
very good, very clear very pro ... thanks
Any chance of a Zoom/Windows 10 demo?
Essentially, the rules in this video are applicable to Zoom. But we'll think about it :-)
In Windows 10 you can select any Totalmix FX loopback channel from a Windows sound device in OBS. So you don't need an app like Ladiocast and a virtual Soundcard.
Hi there, I am trying to set this up. As far as totalmix concerns i have set everything correctly I guess cause after selecting an audio output and activating the loopback function, i can see the respective input in my Ableton on the same channels as the output with loopback activated. i.e. i have set Output 7-8 with loopback on and see input 7-8 getting the audio in my Ableton. Ladiocast on the other hand, does not see this audio coming in on channel 7-8. Whatever output I chose, Ladiocast ignores to see the incoming channel. I use Input 1 and have the Main button activated. Is there an alternative for Ladiocast or can you please help me setting this up correctly? Thanks in advance Darco
Check the privacy settings for Ladiocast. Did you allow the "microphone"?
You must also select input 7/8 in LadioCast. Sometimes it does not work properly in Ladiocast at the beginning and you have to select the interface and inputs again to make it work.
@@RMEAudio I checked the privacy settings in the preferences but Ladiocast is not blocked or whatsoever. Th crazy part is that if i select built in mic as input source, ladiocast still does not show an incoming sign although i can simply record the audio in my DAW, so it is surely working. It's just ladiocast nog getting it or something. Is there another route for Ladiocast or is this the only app for this purpose? We have a show friday with my daughters music class which we want to broadcast and I am desperatley searching to get it to work.
@@RMEAudio I tried all the inputs, waited, reinstalled the program, nothing worked..
@@darcofication please contact us on facebook. We will try to help you via remote session.
Would anybody wanna share a Windows OS alternative to BlackHole?
Is this work with OBS only or with different live stream platform as well?
This method can be applied to all programs, if they don’t recognize the input channels right away.
Nice and easy, thank you
Hi !! does this also aplyy for my Fireface 800? Thx!
Solvedddd!!!!! didt understand the fact you can do the mix from the total mix,,, i was creating 2 aux inputs in OBS....like i was doing with my Focusrite scarlett.... Acttualy find it super confortable like this, so you can have more control mixing, even assigning midi controllers to the rme.... NICE!
Great that you worked it out!
Havent watched this yet, but what about windows?
Windows just works... just select the input channels set for loopback in OBS as a mic/aux input.
Windows just works! Select the stereo pair in OBS that has loopback enabled.
Thx guys!! 🙌🏽
Enjoy your streams :-)
@@RMEAudio
ES FUNKTIONIERT!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
That went fast!
We‘re doing our best :)
And now for Windows 10 please....
In Windows 10 you can select any loopback channel from a WDM device in OBS. So you don't need an app like Ladiocast and a virtual Soundcard.
@@RMEAudio But my HDSP has no loopback channel. ;-)
Andreas Franke every channel can be a loopback channel . Just assign a channel u want to as loopback and it is what u asked for. Every channel has a extra button for this just check it in ur mixer and have fun.