They're nice for those families who were fruitful and multiplied across the Isles, too. Technically Welsh Origin, and main tartan is shared with Clan MacKay (Blue) (NW Scotland) but there are a fair number of us who emigrated to the Emerald Isle before heading West - whether by their choice or the king's - the two counties I've gravitated towards both have the ancient blue in the MacKay Morgan Blue. Great looking tartans.
What's been really interesting and perhaps an unintended consequence, about the spit-in-the-tube companies, is not finding out what your heritage is, it's the "hey you've got a (insert sibling) mom or dad never told us about, nor wanted us to know about." They made for great birthday or Christmas gifts!!!
Regarding photography, you guys are absolutely right. Photographers back during our Civil War were known to have posed bodies of the slain to make a more graphic and impactful photograph. So yes... you do have to be very careful as what you see may not be what had been.
Persistence defines tradition, be it good or not so good. In extra cold weather, I wear two pairs of hose, with the cream on the inside, and another color on the outside. When turned down, the cuff makes a nice unique look.
Your website used to have a "fly by (through)" video of the physical site. I don't see that on the site now,. Your studio is gorgeous! do you do tours so one could see the library and wall hanging tartans in person to get a better knowledge of which ones are where? If not , could you do a video walk-through of it? It would just add to the richness of the shows and of the USAK experience. You've set or at least joined (lots of entities out there) the standard of quality and customer service/engagement. Keep it up.
I wear tartans that have meaning to me, Clan Keith (modern & ancient ), US Army, State of Oregon, and also have a ‘Hunting” tartan for field wear. Keeping five kilts is expensive when you include belts, sporrans, hose, foot ware, jackets, etc. These are worn to church, clan events, military events, etc.
I could argue that the surest way to water down the tartan tradition is to stop making and wearing it. That creativity and craft IS the tradition. Taking your skill, inspiration and the wool and pigments you could get your hands on to make something as functional and beautiful as possible. To me, creativity, love and passion keeps the art and tradition alive as opposed to becoming a museum piece.
I know this comes way late, but that would make a fantastic video for you guys to make. A bunch of you wearing the same tartan in a pub, and somebody comes in with the same tartan, and you guys give him a rash of stuff. Something like What would happen between gang members today. I would find that hilarious.
I have an embarrassing question: on a fairly windy day, I went out in a PV kilt. While the sporran kept the front aprons down in front, the rear was a different story! Any advice concerning this? Woud a heavier wool kilt solve this or do I just have to be one less bashful? 😜
When I was purchasing my kilt as I was born in Scotland, I did a lot of research into my family that was a sept of a main clan. So having it confirmed by the kiltmaker I went ahead with my purchase, I wouldn't have purchased a kilt if I did not have a direct Scottish connection as that was my personal preference! The kilt maker was a sept of Mc Donald clan making a kilt for a sept of the Campbell clan, all there was banter and no flashing of a Sgian-Dubh!
My grandfather wrote a genealogy on his ancestry traced all the way back to the time of Robert the Bruce. I haven't read it myself (as much as I would love to), but I was disappointed to find that the only thing associated with his surname in my research of clans and tartans was one of the islands and one of the MacLeod clans. I don't actually know if we're related to the MacLeod of Harris clan, but that was all I could find surrounding the name Harris. Is there a better approach I could take to researching that?
Unless I was born and raised in Scotland I wouldn’t dare wear a tartan in Scotland. Unless I was living there. It’s one thing to be proud and interested in your heritage. It’s another thing to go over there and be cringe.
It's funny that Ian mentioned the Pen Mar Lookout on the Appalachian Trail first wedding took place there that's where I got married for my first wedding
I've been there twice! It would be a great spot if people couldn't drive right up to it (and graffiti it so easily). The last time I was there was about 2015 or 2016. My Uncle, my cousin and I met up with my brother, who was thru-hiking the whole trail. We joined him for Harpers Ferry through Penn-Mar.
I just looked up the tartan for the North American Sheep Breeders Association. 😀👍 Yep, there it is, on the Scottish Tartan Register’s official website! It was designed by 2 Canadians, in honor of the Canadian Shetland Sheep breeder’s association. (Shetland sheep are from the Shetland islands of Scotland.)
For the most part I chose black hoses for daily wear. Colored hoses are oreo for off work time. Flashes are optional for daily wear, sock garters are used mostly.
"Dress" variations of tartans often include cream elements and sometimes cream hose would pair very nicely. I think I would still prefer to match to one of the other colors in the tartan, but that is an opinion, not a fashion rule. I am biased though, as I am very much a "dark colors" person. I still say that if you want to look like you own your outfit, a well paired, non-cream color is best.
@@ianthekiltmaker I’m with you, up to now I’ve been a jeans and tee shirt guy but I just bought my first kilt (should receive it by next week) and it’s a universal with blue, brown and the tiniest bit of white/cream.
49:00 ish - I heard this about Gurkhas and their Kukris. They have to ritually nick themselves if they aren't chopping an enemy to bits, or something. Maybe it's from other places too.
Same here. I am Swedish. Turns out i have quite a lot of Scotttish ( not a surprise really , as far as history goes ) , Clan Currie being the closest one on my mothers side. Kilts, Clans, Gaelic etc was a big part of my life decades before i knew that though. ❤️
THIS! THIS is what my wife thinks - my getting beat up not just for wrong tartan but wearing a kilt in general and in turn if she was with me, her safety threatened as well.
Because of Ancestry I was able to find my Grandfather's side of the family back 5 generations. As to the percentage of my DNA, mine is from all over where the Celtcs were so I wear my kilts with Celtic pride.
I made it simple, I looked up my family name(s) and it's (their) connection to Scotland. Found out two branches were tied, one each, to the MacGregors, and Clan Donald. Even received a verification email from Clan Donald.
42:40 I like to say I´m 12.5% Frisian bc 1 of my grandparents had Frisian parents. And I learned the ancient password to enter Frisia before your head would get chopped off by the tribe´s - now state of the Netherlands - legendary chief Grutte Pier. Which translates as Big Pete. Who had his own famous greatsword like William Wallace did. And so on, and so forth. So I must be, unmistakably and undisputably, be 12.5% Frisian, and proud of it! There! ^^
If anybody knows, please let me know: I'm really hoping my family is wrong. My last name is Cox. From my dad's side we are apparently English and welsh. My maternal grandmother says she is German and Dutch. I love Scottish and Irish ancestry so I'm going to buy kilts and flat caps and enjoy them, but I was curious if Roscommon is in fact the true root of the last name Cox, and if I'm actually of the welsh, or did the diaspora from Ireland and Scotland create create some of my folks along the way?
My Anceatry DNA says I'm mostly Swedish, and about 19% Scottish, yet it claims that side of my family came from Wisconsin. Ancestry DNA only goes back about 150 years. That's how long we've been in Milwaukee.
The battles between the clans are histoeical, i.e. it's done with. Wear what takes your fancy with pride. Only Balmoral remains entirely private, membership of the House of Windsor is required!
Well I am a MacDonald so any person wearing a Campbell tartan is going in a sink hole. JK lol, it is incredible to me that anyone honestly would be worried about that.
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People who see you wearing the wrong tartan like, "You don't look like a MacDonald! Put up your dukes and prepare for a brawl!"😂
you see the size of my waist??? this is 75% McDonald... about 20% KFC and the rest on Burger King
@@Madpup1uk and a little bit "campbell soup"
I do enjoy just watching people do fun things
'Cause busting makes me feel good. - You, sir, win the internet!
Thank you for being here, guys!
Our pleasure!
I lived the joke at the end about a groomsman being stabbed at a wedding. Not by me, but by another groomsman after FAR too much drinking.
For those of us who don't have a direct lineage to a Clan, the Universals and Irish County tartans are a nice option.
They're nice for those families who were fruitful and multiplied across the Isles, too. Technically Welsh Origin, and main tartan is shared with Clan MacKay (Blue) (NW Scotland) but there are a fair number of us who emigrated to the Emerald Isle before heading West - whether by their choice or the king's - the two counties I've gravitated towards both have the ancient blue in the MacKay Morgan Blue. Great looking tartans.
Great conversation. You guys are great ambassadors for highland wear
Thanks for sharing 😊
What's been really interesting and perhaps an unintended consequence, about the spit-in-the-tube companies, is not finding out what your heritage is, it's the "hey you've got a (insert sibling) mom or dad never told us about, nor wanted us to know about." They made for great birthday or Christmas gifts!!!
I never wear a Hatfield tartan in McCoy territory !
I live in a town called Hatfield. You better not come around wearing the McCoy tartan or I'll have to beat you up!
I love your intelligent back & forth, but most of all I admire your tolerance. You guys talk so much sense, especially about kilts.
Regarding photography, you guys are absolutely right. Photographers back during our Civil War were known to have posed bodies of the slain to make a more graphic and impactful photograph. So yes... you do have to be very careful as what you see may not be what had been.
Nice Ghostbusters reference there Eric!
“Kilt and kaboodle” is freakin genius. Do it at the Highland games circuit and you’d sell like gang busters!
Persistence defines tradition, be it good or not so good. In extra cold weather, I wear two pairs of hose, with the cream on the inside, and another color on the outside. When turned down, the cuff makes a nice unique look.
Ancestry helped me find my brother since we where both adopted at a very young age plus it did tell us in the region of where we came from
The only time I have encountered violence around wearing a kilt is from my temptations towards dam kilt lifters 😤
Your website used to have a "fly by (through)" video of the physical site. I don't see that on the site now,. Your studio is gorgeous! do you do tours so one could see the library and wall hanging tartans in person to get a better knowledge of which ones are where? If not , could you do a video walk-through of it? It would just add to the richness of the shows and of the USAK experience. You've set or at least joined (lots of entities out there) the standard of quality and customer service/engagement. Keep it up.
We can certainly try! That's a good idea!
Great session, guys. Thanks!
I wear tartans that have meaning to me, Clan Keith (modern & ancient ), US Army, State of Oregon, and also have a ‘Hunting” tartan for field wear. Keeping five kilts is expensive when you include belts, sporrans, hose, foot ware, jackets, etc. These are worn to church, clan events, military events, etc.
I could argue that the surest way to water down the tartan tradition is to stop making and wearing it.
That creativity and craft IS the tradition.
Taking your skill, inspiration and the wool and pigments you could get your hands on to make something as functional and beautiful as possible.
To me, creativity, love and passion keeps the art and tradition alive as opposed to becoming a museum piece.
I know this comes way late, but that would make a fantastic video for you guys to make. A bunch of you wearing the same tartan in a pub, and somebody comes in with the same tartan, and you guys give him a rash of stuff. Something like What would happen between gang members today. I would find that hilarious.
yay new video!
"The Kilt & Kaboodle" hahahahahaha
I have an embarrassing question: on a fairly windy day, I went out in a PV kilt. While the sporran kept the front aprons down in front, the rear was a different story! Any advice concerning this? Woud a heavier wool kilt solve this or do I just have to be one less bashful? 😜
Try wearing the pleats to the back
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When I was purchasing my kilt as I was born in Scotland, I did a lot of research into my family that was a sept of a main clan. So having it confirmed by the kiltmaker I went ahead with my purchase, I wouldn't have purchased a kilt if I did not have a direct Scottish connection as that was my personal preference! The kilt maker was a sept of Mc Donald clan making a kilt for a sept of the Campbell clan, all there was banter and no flashing of a Sgian-Dubh!
My grandfather wrote a genealogy on his ancestry traced all the way back to the time of Robert the Bruce. I haven't read it myself (as much as I would love to), but I was disappointed to find that the only thing associated with his surname in my research of clans and tartans was one of the islands and one of the MacLeod clans. I don't actually know if we're related to the MacLeod of Harris clan, but that was all I could find surrounding the name Harris. Is there a better approach I could take to researching that?
Unless I was born and raised in Scotland I wouldn’t dare wear a tartan in Scotland. Unless I was living there. It’s one thing to be proud and interested in your heritage. It’s another thing to go over there and be cringe.
It's funny that Ian mentioned the Pen Mar Lookout on the Appalachian Trail first wedding took place there that's where I got married for my first wedding
I've been there twice! It would be a great spot if people couldn't drive right up to it (and graffiti it so easily). The last time I was there was about 2015 or 2016. My Uncle, my cousin and I met up with my brother, who was thru-hiking the whole trail. We joined him for Harpers Ferry through Penn-Mar.
The whole "blade cannot be sheathed until it has drawn blood" is the rule for a Fremen crysknife in Dune. Idk how that got applied to sgian dubhs
I just looked up the tartan for the North American Sheep Breeders Association. 😀👍 Yep, there it is, on the Scottish Tartan Register’s official website! It was designed by 2 Canadians, in honor of the Canadian Shetland Sheep breeder’s association. (Shetland sheep are from the Shetland islands of Scotland.)
For the most part I chose black hoses for daily wear. Colored hoses are oreo for off work time. Flashes are optional for daily wear, sock garters are used mostly.
As Rocky says so many times, "but you do you".
#13 Beatup? Well I do get hit on a lot.. 🤣🤣
Maybe this is a stupid question, but are there any tartans that actually use cream which would make cream hose appropriate?
"Dress" variations of tartans often include cream elements and sometimes cream hose would pair very nicely. I think I would still prefer to match to one of the other colors in the tartan, but that is an opinion, not a fashion rule. I am biased though, as I am very much a "dark colors" person. I still say that if you want to look like you own your outfit, a well paired, non-cream color is best.
@@ianthekiltmaker I’m with you, up to now I’ve been a jeans and tee shirt guy but I just bought my first kilt (should receive it by next week) and it’s a universal with blue, brown and the tiniest bit of white/cream.
49:00 ish - I heard this about Gurkhas and their Kukris. They have to ritually nick themselves if they aren't chopping an enemy to bits, or something. Maybe it's from other places too.
They don't
The "Kilt and Caboodle" is a potential project for a Bar or PUB, maybe a Whisky house perhaps?
Go with Irish kilts & tartans...
My Dogs are all MacIntyre's. 😂
Ancestry dna some how changes as well...when I did mine it said one thing and now I look at it and it says something different
i was actually into kilts before i did my dna. im glad im part scottish though. we didnt know that. my moms side i know almost nothing.
Same here.
I am Swedish. Turns out i have quite a lot of Scotttish ( not a surprise really , as far as history goes ) , Clan Currie being the closest one on my mothers side.
Kilts, Clans, Gaelic etc was a big part of my life decades before i knew that though.
❤️
THIS! THIS is what my wife thinks - my getting beat up not just for wrong tartan but wearing a kilt in general and in turn if she was with me, her safety threatened as well.
Because of Ancestry I was able to find my Grandfather's side of the family back 5 generations. As to the percentage of my DNA, mine is from all over where the Celtcs were so I wear my kilts with Celtic pride.
I tell people I'm "purebred Heinz - 57 varieties"
Draw blood - maybe they are clumsy putting it back in the sheath!😊
Japanese had a legend of cursed swords that if you unsheath it it will force you to draw blood before you can re sheath it.
I made it simple, I looked up my family name(s) and it's (their) connection to Scotland. Found out two branches were tied, one each, to the MacGregors, and Clan Donald. Even received a verification email from Clan Donald.
42:40 I like to say I´m 12.5% Frisian bc 1 of my grandparents had Frisian parents. And I learned the ancient password to enter Frisia before your head would get chopped off by the tribe´s - now state of the Netherlands - legendary chief Grutte Pier. Which translates as Big Pete. Who had his own famous greatsword like William Wallace did. And so on, and so forth. So I must be, unmistakably and undisputably, be 12.5% Frisian, and proud of it! There! ^^
If anybody knows, please let me know:
I'm really hoping my family is wrong. My last name is Cox. From my dad's side we are apparently English and welsh. My maternal grandmother says she is German and Dutch. I love Scottish and Irish ancestry so I'm going to buy kilts and flat caps and enjoy them, but I was curious if Roscommon is in fact the true root of the last name Cox, and if I'm actually of the welsh, or did the diaspora from Ireland and Scotland create create some of my folks along the way?
I think the Beejay tartan is not too far. However, the BJ tartan is.
they have a tartan named after an island! what about a train? or a car? lol
Did the audio crap out at around 45min for anyone else?
Yes, it got a bit out of sync after Rocky's pickup distorted and was recified.
Yeah, it got weird and then got out of sync. But I wasn't watching the video at the time, so I was ok with it.
My Anceatry DNA says I'm mostly Swedish, and about 19% Scottish, yet it claims that side of my family came from Wisconsin.
Ancestry DNA only goes back about 150 years. That's how long we've been in Milwaukee.
The battles between the clans are histoeical, i.e. it's done with. Wear what takes your fancy with pride. Only Balmoral remains entirely private, membership of the House of Windsor is required!
12% Scottish in genealogy usually means they have 1 great grandparent that is Scottish
Well I am a MacDonald so any person wearing a Campbell tartan is going in a sink hole. JK lol, it is incredible to me that anyone honestly would be worried about that.
I think someone is getting caught up in historical tradition verses modern traditionalism weeds.