They dont care, all the Car "Influencers" will just put out a video on a new model and be like "Damn this is the best one yet!!" while reading off a script.
Yeah I think for the average Joe like most of us here, all of these new cars are just insanely priced for the quality you get. I don't want massaging seats while I wait for a tow truck, I just want to avoid the tow truck altogether.
Looks like I’m gonna have to wait till the 5th Gen Tacoma to upgrade from my 3rd Gen. is it me or is Toyota japan letting Toyota of North America cut corners? I think the R&D should be done in Japan, I swear us Americans can’t do shit right
Just picked up a 2024 Tacoma OR last Friday. I brought it home, the car had fluid leaking from the front differential the next morning. I called the dealer, they said they can’t get me in to diagnose the problem until next week. Sales managers and salesman won’t call me back. I am not driving the truck right now out of caution. Terrible. There’s a reason they are desperate to sell these things. I’m embarrassed to even admit this, but yeah, don’t buy one of these trucks.
I've heard mixed reviews, some dealers seem really good while others not so much. Where are you located? I hope your issues gets sorted...a diff leak could be a number of things, maybe they overfilled...or maybe it's the seal. Hope it's not a big mess for them to fix for you.
@@TheCarGuyOnline thanks so much. I’m located in the State of Maine, but I purchased the truck from a Toyota dealer in Laconia, New Hampshire. I hope the front differential is just overfilled, that would make me pretty relieved!
Let me add to the bad news. My buddy is a service advisor for Toyota. They are having a large number of failures on the Tacoma's starter. More specifically the solenoid. It's leaving customers stranded with no way to start the truck. It's become so prevalent that the solenoids are on backorder and the trucks are sitting at dealerships waiting on the part to come off backorder.
do you know who makes the starter now? Heard on forums people having issues with the A/C compressors on the new Tacomas. someone mentioned nothing is DENSO (made in japan) anymore when it comes to alternators, starters, compressors, etc....
@@Max-ik9qbthe radiator and intercoolers are Denso. And on other 2.4T's Denso makes the starter, not sure why the Tacoma would be any different unless they're on backorder.
Can confirm. I’m in the DFW area and all of the service advisor I’ve spoken to along with independent shops are saying the same thing. Tech’s are getting super frustrated reaching out to Toyota with no real answer or fix.
New Toyota is quickly destroying the rep that Old Toyota built through decades of hard work. For those that don't know, I say new Toyota, because in the last 10yrs a lot of the old Toyota bosses retired or stepped down, with a new generation taking. Essentially meaning Toyota is a whole different company now.
I’m happy with my 2023 Camry XSE V6. 13,000 miles and everything is rosy. But but but, I did have a dash rattle that plagued the car in the first thousand miles. Took it to my local dealership twice and they finally squelched the issue by putting little dyna mat patches in the panel(s) where I was hearing it. Since then no noise. Fixed
@@TheCarGuyOnline coming out of 16 F150, id take it back in a heart beat over this trd OR. Even having driven the new f150's as work trucks id take any of them over this thing. ive owned a few different trucks and brands for various reason and the only thing i can compare this to is a 05 6.0 f250 i had that i knew was going to be trouble after getting it home and doing the maintenance on it.
They, like other vehicle manufacturers are getting in good with new toyota owners that replace their vehicles every year or every two years, hoping the taco will last 2 years with only minor issues. To make a lot of money, you need to see many of them as often as you can. In the faceb00k groups, most new taco owners are brand new to toyota trucks. The rest of us are holding back and letting them be guinea pigs.
This is covid engineering too. It takes on average 4 years to clean sheet design a new vehicle. I wouldn't buy any new vehicle designed by emails and zoom calls.
Has been trending that way for a while now. When they changed their new vehicle warranty to state that it was "normal" for Toyota engines to burn up to 1 quart every 1200 miles, that was big red flag. Particularly since it was their way of trying to doge lawsuits over selling engines with terrible oil consumption issues.
Every single position at my job has been compromised. Weird how it seems a large amount of people just got wayyyy dumber and don't care about anything; especially their own work. Everything is bare minimum.
Toyota has a massive propaganda team behind them. They've never been great but somebody read on the internet that "they last forever!" and it started spreading like a wildfire. Like I know older Toyota trucks that have 400,000 miles on them and have been on their 3rd engine or transmission, and people legit keep putting money in them while claiming it's indestructible. It's a mind virus
Wise move unless they own up to these issues which they show no sign of doing These are not just problems they are major issues due to cynical and lazy design philosophy Tragic
I have had zero problems with my 2016 4runner trail with kdss, I bought this truck new and have overland with it as well as being my daily driver. I to think toyota will bounce back after all this. This is really not what toyota is about. Just like all the other manufacturers out there, they all seem to go through a recall on their new products. I still would like to keep faith in toyota and not jump the gun on them. I love my 5th gen and would still hesitate to trade in on the new 4runner. If That day comes. It will probably be the new land cruiser since I'm not keen on how the six gen looks.
@@Shape_studioz Obviously a fan boy. Sad really. I own a 2023 Taco, love it, but won't defend these poorly designed and badly assembled 2024 models. The 2025 models did not bring mechanical improvements only color changes. Now that is a sad reality check for all Toyota followers and owners, me included.
The Nissian Frontier ProX4 is the new front runner for reliability, build quality, and price point/value. I would still buy a Nissan over a Toyota right now even if they are hurting financially and probably will go bankrupt or sell. That’s how bad Toyota has gotten….The people have spoken. 😮😢
Hard to know yet. Some people have over 10k on them with no issues so, could be another "debris" issue...lord only knows. The 2018 Camry had similar issues when it first came out, I think the ended up reprogramming it and haven't had issues since.
@@TheCarGuyOnlineI'm one of the impacted owners, my Toyota tech was unable to answer if the replacement part is a new part or just the same one. Mine broke in early July, they got the new transmission, but then Toyota told them not to install it because it was the torque converter that caused the initial failure that broke the trans, and would also need to be replaced. It will be two months before I get the truck back.
@@TheCarGuyOnline I am not sure yet, I know I want a truck for the things I like to do, but I don't have a lot of confidence in other brands either. I have at least one friend for each brand working on a lemon law buyback (One is a chevy, another is a ford). Overall, I like the look of the Tacoma, the interior is what I wanted, and the drive was pleasant until the transmission failed. My dealership has gone above and beyond to help me, but Toyota certainly isn't doing themselves any favors by dragging out this fix and I'm afraid if I do a buyback, I won't be able to find another tacoma with the features I want and without all the junk that tends to get added at port inflating an already expensive price tag.
@@jackcrackerman Chances are after the new transmission you probably won't have issues, and it'll still be under warranty. If you are someone that keeps vehicles for 2-3 years then cycles them, and stays in powertrain warranty, nothing to worry about at least from a cost perspective. The hassle factor is another story :)
It will be years for Toyota to recover. Obviously, the quality control they were famous for is gone. It's not just engineering but the manufacturing and quality of parts used in such have sunk to new lows.
Toyota is doing fine (albeit the engine recall is a mess). It’s always stupid to buy a new model year from any brand. In 3 years time all these issues will be gone.
@@avdp9095how? No automaker has ever achieved that. There are always unexpected issues with new designs. A big part of why Toyotas are so reliable is they don’t change design very often. When they do, it’s time to stay clear for a few years from that model.
@@mkyhou1160 we have no problems with European build Toyota's sofar. I reallyvthink Toyota Usa is far to independent within Toyota company and has the lowest quality cars in the whole Toyota lineup Worldwide. It is simply an attitude ' thing' Americans have simply no clue, and no attitude, about developing and building quality cars.... .
My coworker just bought his wife a 2024 Toyota land cruiser. At 700 miles it is having serious electrical issues. At one point it wouldn’t shift out of 1st gear and now the screen just stays off.
Yeah, Toyota has ruined all their vehicles with the new twin turbo/turbo/hybrid engines. Tell your family and friends not to buy any new Toyota’s until new leadership and build quality improves. Toyota has lost their minds and I’m not buying anything new from Toyota for a long time.
I have a 2022 Toyota 4RUNNER SR5 Premium 4WD that the transmission and suspension both strangely seem to be perfectly fine on. I will not be tempted by the cheapened 2024 Tacoma or the soon to be cheapened 2025 4RUNNER. I plan to hang on to my bullet proof ‘22 T4R for many years to come.
Almost bought a Ranger Lariat loaded but goggled their recall and TSB list and found it a mile long. Got my deposit back. Ford quality is not too good as of late but I wish you all the best with your Ranger.
No bump stop AND a cheap, low quality shock top hat that cracks into pieces when the "offroad" truck hits a pot hole any car could handle. Come on toyota, you can cut some corners, you can't cut EVERY corner.
Takes 4 years to design a new vehicle....what was Toyota doing 4 years ago? These engineering decisions were made over conference calls, emails, and zoom calls....in 2020. I wouldn't buy any pandemengineered car.
I’ve been looking to get a tacoma but after doing my research, I concluded toyota is having too many quality and design issues. Gave up on toyota and got frontier pro4x instead…100% happy with my decision.
Good decision to buy the Nissan Frontier. Toyota has lost their minds. Most average Americans can not justify spending around 50K for a midsize truck that will definitely have issues with that Turbo and transmission within 100K miles and gods know what else will break or need “recalled” at this point. Epic fail Toyota
Exact same situation for me. My 2001 Tacoma PreRunner (510,000 km) finally gave up the ghost. Intended to replace it with another Taco. Did my research and nope, no way with all the failure reports and Toyota Corporate attitude towards the poor owners with the problems. Bought a Nissan Frontier Hardbody. Love the V6.
@as2223 Again you troll? What utter garbage you spout! The Frontier has a total of ZERO recalls and 12 TSBs of which all are minor electrical LCD ones and 6 are piffling nonsense. Google it if you know how to. The trannies are not failing they are smooth as silk. I know because I own one. You probably don't own anything but a skateboard and just wished you did. Move out of your mom's basement and take your irrational Frontier hatred and nonsense elsewhere.
I agree. I commented on his video about the issues Toyota and sequoias have he just replied, saying he hasn’t heard anything like that saw anything online when there’s a whole forum on a vibration issue for the tundra. Clearly trd Jon is a suck up for Toyota.
i notice he blindly praises Toyota as well. I bet you Toyota has paid him one way or another, such as flight and stays for these press events and more. I’m so glad more people are noticing this.
@@tomkillsall I watched one (not the whole thing) video from trdjon and could not handle him. He is an obvious shill and will say or do anything for views. I don't get how he has a channel and I don't get anyone who praises him.
Toyota has been going down hill for a while! People grew up being socially constructed to think they are amazing, but if you are not a toyota fan boy you know better!
They lost my trust when they designed crappy piston rings in 2008 which screwed up lot of engines in a lot of their models. The worst part was they knew about it and still didn’t fix those issues post warranty because they were dishonest and not willing to own up to their problems and stick their faults on unsuspecting owners.
I have a bagged 95 Tacoma and an 01 Celica. Still choochin. Of course they deserved their reputation at the time but they’ve been coasting on that perception for a veerrrrrrry long time and now they’ e finally flushed it down the toilet.
These trucks are just poorly engineered. After watching the car care nut video on the TRD PRO I'm just shocked at how bad these trucks are. Frame sliders that are hooked up to the body?! These other guys blowing through a shock on not very difficulty offroading. The pop heard around the world on TFL's truck. My guess is the hybrid system is so expensive that their doing everything they can to cut corners to keep the price from close to six figures. And their still stupid expensive.
The TRD PRO does not have "rock sliders." Those "sliders" on the PRO are meant to protect the body from rocks thrown up from high speed off roading. PROs are not meant to be rock crawlers. The Trailhunter is the version with proper rock sliders that can take the weight of the truck. Every new model has teething problems and that's why many ppl prefer to wait for the 2nd or 3rd year examples. I do agree though that Toyota's pricing is way too high!
@Justmejbful ok fair enough as far as what I thought were rock sliders. Transmission issues I would chalk up to early issue bugs. But no bounce stops. According to Sheldon on tfl they used the same add as before and there were no issues. But the 3.5 v6 made 265ftlbs at 4600 rpm. The previous 4.0 v6 made 266 ftlbs at 4000 rpm. This engine makes around 300 and change around 2000 rpms totally different power curves. And they use the same component as before. Seems poorly thought out. I just can't get past the lack of bumpstops. There's all sorts of other things that are not good. I was a Toyota fan but what a debacle this truck and the tundra truly are. And the tundra has been out for around 3 years it's not new.
@chuckgilly my guess is the hybrid system is incredibly expensive. So between cutting corners and cutting costs plus spreading the price around to every other model, we have what we have.
Seems like all these new generation trucks skipped out on the longer term durability and torture testing. Can't imagine that these issues wouldn't have shown themselves during prototype testing.
not all of them are bad. my taco is 2018 4 banger and hasnt been to the dealership once 🥲 indestructible 2tr-fe with the same transmission that comes on the heavier and bigger v6 models so you can say its over built
@@skateinspace n/a 4 cylinder is fine. I dont want a turbo charged, small engine. Too much workload on such a small block and more maintenance cost. More power, more problems.
@@Yunggrippacuz its not too much. theres thousands of turbo charged engines on the road today that have gone without problems. They dont chase gears near as much. if you drive it normal it gets far less abuse than a na engine. I personally cant stand NA engines after being in turbo gas and turbo diesels. 3500rpm to climb every small hill is just silly.
@Ttallonn. It is OBJECTIVELY too much. Turbo's are like steroids. They increase short term strength/power output. But they are hard on your body/engine. They wear out the insides faster. Naturally aspirated engines are less powerful...but more likely to love longer. When buying 50,000 dollar trucks....longevity matters. Of course you will get turbo engines and steroid users who love long. But on average, the non-steroid user and the naturally aspirated engines will live longer. If you can afford turbo's...great. I am not denying they are a more fun driving experience. I am saying they are less cost-effective for most of us and the less intelligent buy for people who need am A to B vehicle that gets work done over the next 5 to 10 years of ownership.
They all seem to be selling high prices garbage now. Too many electronics ilof cheap origin, emissions standards that are wrecking engines. You name it. Corporate greed.
And this is why I laughed at the Salesman last November who asked me “why are you buying a 23 when the new ones are being delivered in a few months?” I’ll never buy a new version of any vehicle.
Smart man. Listen to the mechanics and experts who warned everyone about the new model years of cars/trucks. The mechanics also predicted the new Toyota trucks and SUV’s were a terrible design and the quality was subpar.
@@BigChiefWiggles Thanks I will. My 2023 Taco will very likely still be on the road when your I-4 turbo will very likely be in the scrapyard. Fact not fancy. I own a Porsche and rebuilding that turbo motor was nearly the cost of a new one. I honestly wish you the best of luck and hope that IF it does crap out, it does so while you're machine is still under warranty.
Keep these videos coming and thank you for posting all these Toyota problems with the new platform. I was a Loyal supporter and loyal customer but I knew these issues would keep popping up with Toyota’s new cheap and greedy vehicle platform. All the old loyal customers look closely at build quality and engine choices. A large customer base of Toyota buyers and enthusiasts are mechanics, engineers, and DYI-ers. This is why people (including me) were so mad and disappointed at Toyota those same loyal fans and customers combed through the new Tundra’s and Tacoma’s and pointed out several pitfalls and potential problems fresh out of the manufacturing facilities. Let’s hope Toyota gets the message or else I and many others will leave the brand for a very long time. Who is with me? Thanks again for highlighting these issues and keep on doing the right thing.
It’s unreal how awful these new Toyotas are. Not only issues with powertrains, the interior quality is absolute trash. These are beautiful new vehicles as far as looks but everything else is trash.
As an engineer who has designed top mounts and strut mounts, clear design issues. Someone didn’t do their design homework and validate load paths correctly
@@TheCarGuyOnline it’s called optimization. Most of the issues I see within the industry are related to insufficient time to develop and validate a vehicle program. Toyota is no exception. Not enough time and development. We have to make assumptions early in a project at start of development and sometimes things are not caught at SOP
@@Crash-hq6rt In the case of the top mounts for the struts, do you think their engineering samples were just stronger than the "assembly line" variants for the smaller piece that is breaking? Seems like once you shrink things down and ride the line of failure vs. not failure, the cast/quality of materials starts to matter a lot more.
Correct. I work for a mechanical engineering firm and there are so many design flaws on the new Tacoma’s and Tundra I can’t and won’t go through the list because I just don’t care enough about Toyota and there terrible engine and quality build choices anymore.
@@TheCarGuyOnline no, we do representative prototypes majority of the time especially when more vehicles are built and validated. Those are non salable vehicles tested for everything plus durability. Toyota has really strict die cast standards. Most OEMs do as well, low porosity requirements. Normally at SOP there is a higher inspection standard for 90 days and I’m guessing there is no problem in material or in the quality. Toyata is very strict on approving suppliers, especially casting.
I’ve become such a hater. It’s like I get excited to see all the problems happening with the 24 Tacoma. I’m not proud of you guys. I was in the market for a small/midsize truck in 2022. Put an order in for a maverick. By 2023 I started looking at used Tacoma‘s, but then saw the redesign and was going to wait for it. While waiting, I got hooked on the new Nissan frontier pro 4X, so I ended up buying one at the end of the year. Now, every time I see a disaster video on the new Tacoma it makes me feel better about my purchase. It’s the little wins in life that bring us joy. 😂😂😂 seriously though, it sucks for the guys buying this truck.
@@MTG_22 it does suck, but i struggle to feel bad for them. 1. Its grossly overpriced 2. It’s a first year of a new gen. They kind of deserve it for being a loyal cultist. Brand loyalty doesnt mean shit.
And when Nissan goes bankrupt, I too will laugh at you guys that bought a Nissan, says no-one. This seems so weird to get excited over the downfall of someone picking something else. I think you may have issues that need worked out.
@@vikashummer You must be a fan boy to spout such drivel. No matter who builds it, crap is crap and to love one pile of crap more than another pile of crap shows a mental deficiency.
Stories about the strut mounts failing have been out for some time now. That ICON video seems like they knew exactly the case scenario they needed to reenact on camera so they could advertise their fix for the shock mount. Genius marketing strategy if you ask me.
I would sympathize with Toyota of Japan if they step in and handle what’s happening on this side of the world. It must feel like shit to realize after expanding to become a world brand that the workforces in many other countries couldn’t give a shit about your manufacturing quality. The Japanese people was where their success originated.
I noticed they ware designed and built in the USA as a young adult we always looks for a J in toyota's serial numbers stating built in Japan. Had a deposit for a 2024 and am I ever glad I bought a 2023 in December tacoma off road edition. 😮
Just picked up a 24 4Runner before they disappeared. LOOOOVE it. Wouldn't touch a new Toyota truck till at least 3rd model year, and that is even questionable.
Tacoma has been made in Mexico for years... it's really Toyota management culture as a whole going down. Their moto/ideals/values has drastically changed to just "good enough" from yesteryear's "bulletproof".
They always were made in Mexico. They’ve always been junk. The media is just no longer protecting Toyotas “reliable image” it’s finally ok to openly call out their crap quality.
The town i live here in mexico theres is 3 2024 tacomas and i own 1, 2 have transmision problems, min is been towed to the dealer next week, same problem
You are right about all vehicle OEMs are struggling with quality in the past 1-2 years...shortage of skilled workers post Covid is hurting not only the OEMs but the entire supply chain. I suspect that this will continue for a couple of years until the entire system is corrected.
I'm driving a '17 TRD Sport with 113K and it still drive like brand new. Plan on keeping it for a very long time. I'm not brand loyal and might look at Frontier as my next one.
They've got a LOT to fix in order to revive the name. I remember the '05 and '06 had motor mount issues and gasket problems. Toyota fixed those issues after a couple years. Let's hope they do the same - and drop that ridiculous price tag. I'll go for another 2nd gen or 3rd.
Own a 24 Tacoma since the release late winter, have 11,430 miles on it. No issues, more comfortable, smooth and responsive ride, more quiet, more power than my former 21 model. If I had any problems I'd be the first to complain. I'd like to see some accurate numbers of Tacoma sold along with accurate numbers of those sold with real problems. Otherwise it's all just hearsay to me.
Toyota has confirmed transmission issues, they said it was with an "early batch" or something along those lines. The automatic issues and manual issues were two different problems, but in theory, they should be good from here out. This is all according to things I'm reading today/watching today. It's hard to know though, they said the same thing about the Tundra with engine issues and those carried on for years. I have heard the Taco seems a bit better built than the tundra for whatever reason, feels tighter/less wind noise etc...
They're not selling enough to get the data you want. My local dealer has at least 10 facing the street; no idea how many are farther into the lot. I'm not sure that's ever happened with the Tacoma.
@@doom4067 taco sales are down for sure, they are still selling quite a few but, nowhere near what they used to. I think it’s a combination of reasons, prices higher, interest rates are higher and people want to avoid first model your problems.
The Ford "killer airbags" is due to a Japanese supplier (Takata) using a chemical mix for the gas generator that could become unstable over time when exposed to too much heat. So it's bad luck but not Ford's fault in this case. Turns out the bad design also killed Takata, which declared bankruptcy in June of 2017 under the weight of the recalls and lawsuits.
13 double cab shortbed 4.0 175k mile garage wrencher original owner here. Pissed to hear of reliability issues with the new tacomas and tundras. I don’t know why Toyota chose to complicate things with their new line of trucks.
Cannot be 100% certain, since I don't know if it is or not made of aluminum. However, if it is, then that would explain why it broke. Steel has a much greater ability to flex, absorb impact and return to its normal shape compared to aluminum.
I paid $25k for my new 2009 V6 access cab Tacoma. Fully loaded 4x4 with TRD off road package. It’s still going strong. There’s no way I would trade it in for a new Tacoma. They are over twice the cost of mine and not nearly as rugged.
No more overbuilt trucks, it’s built for fuel efficiency like a car. The bump stop on the shock mounts is a fail. They need to go back to frame mounted bump stops.
For those saying “this is Toyota, they will fix this”, yeah, they will surely fix some of these issues, but this is not the same old Toyota. Part of what made Toyotas so reliable historically is that they kept things as simple as possible and then repeatedly improved from that baseline. These new pickups are ridiculously complex, and obviously cheaply made in many respects (“cutting corners” - yes, obviously) while concurrently being sold at relatively high prices. Toyota has for a long time been #1 overall for me, but not now, and I can’t see that changing in the very near future.
I drive a 2016 Tacoma with 175k miles no issues. I’ve also had a 06 Camry with 220k miles before someone totaled it. I have a 2016 Camry with 150k miles, no issues. Had an 03 tundra 240k miles All vehicles with no issues.
My local Toyota dealer is JAMMED with brand new Tacomas and Tundras that are not selling. My local Nissan dealer is selling frontiers by the truckload and has a ton of last gen Tacomas in the used section. Glad I bought my Frontier before the mad rush for them.
It's no surprise to see 4runner sales up on the last year model of the 5th Gen 4runner. People know what's coming with the redesign 4runner, add the issues reported on the New Tacoma it just makes since to buy the most reliable model vs gambling on the new one. Hopefully, by year 3 of the 6th Gen 4runner the bugs will be worked out, and the reliability outlook will be better.
I really like the looks of the new 4runner. I hope they get their issues figured out. Too many new vehicles on new platforms for Toyota....almost impossible to get it all right IMO.
Our 21 Tundra has a bent spindle yet they looked at at 11000 miles did an alignment and never told me then. Now at 28000 it’s out of warranty by thirty days and they refuse to warranty;( we drove five hrs one way to get the last 21 on the east coast and the ball joint has popped from day one. Sorry service when the local dealership hangs up on you multiple times.
Not surprised on the parts shortage for the new 4Runner. My 2019 has a bad AC compressor and there’s not 1 OEM or aftermarket to buy for it. I was told maybe December by 3 mechanics and the dealership. With 57k miles, I’ll take my chances with a Ranger or Bronco before another Baja Build Toyota…
More reasons why keeping your Toyota/Lexus pre-2022 or 2023 when they re-did every vehicle they have on the market. I would argue though it isn't just Toyota but Ford and GM and pretty much everyone minus Honda. Outside of the issues they had at the beginning of the 1.5 turbo Honda has been able to stay relatively clean with recall and just trashy manufacturing issues. I am a 2021 Tundra owner and my wife has a 2020 Acura MDX that we bought both of them brand new, and I told my wife we are owning these for the long-haul at least 20 years each. She agreed nothing out there is worth buying.
I bought a brand new 2021 Chevy Colorado LT in 2020. It has V6, Crew Cab with 6' bed, tow package, convenience package, bed lining, metallic blue ($600 😡).....out the door with all the fees,etc, for $32,500. Coming up 4 years and still no issues. I wanted a Toyota but can't afford one. I had a budget of $33,000.
Reliability is becoming a major issue - my 2018 C-HR has less than 50k miles. The K114 CVT is not known for reliability. Forums filled with "humming noise of death" and it takes $10k just to fix -- transmission and torque converter. The main issue is the variator bearings inside - not a serviceable part? Got fluid flushed at 30k miles and will keep doing it every 30k miles.
I'm more of a half ton guy, the Tacos are just too small and clumsy. I rented one last week for work and I couldn't wait to get out of it, I'd rather drive and FJ cruiser. As far as the new Tundra.... don't get me started, my biggest surprise is that people are actually buying it as an overpriced 6banger just because its got 'some new tech'. We're in clown world.
Toyota apparently misunderstood what people meant when they said they'd drive their old car until the wheels fell off. As you said, more companies than just Toyota are taking shortcuts when building their vehicles, so anybody looking to buy something to replace their old vehicle will either be looking at an older model so that the kinks are worked out or choose the least awful modern option. Hopefully these issues lead to some kind of positive reformation in how the vehicles are made and how the companies treat their customers.
They moved manufacturing to reduce their cost. They jacked up the prices of the Tacoma. And it looks like they still cut quality. Pretty sad Toyota.
They dont care, all the Car "Influencers" will just put out a video on a new model and be like "Damn this is the best one yet!!" while reading off a script.
Yeah I think for the average Joe like most of us here, all of these new cars are just insanely priced for the quality you get. I don't want massaging seats while I wait for a tow truck, I just want to avoid the tow truck altogether.
Toyota bit the big one.
Slippery slope…
Looks like I’m gonna have to wait till the 5th Gen Tacoma to upgrade from my 3rd Gen. is it me or is Toyota japan letting Toyota of North America cut corners? I think the R&D should be done in Japan, I swear us Americans can’t do shit right
Just picked up a 2024 Tacoma OR last Friday. I brought it home, the car had fluid leaking from the front differential the next morning. I called the dealer, they said they can’t get me in to diagnose the problem until next week. Sales managers and salesman won’t call me back. I am not driving the truck right now out of caution. Terrible. There’s a reason they are desperate to sell these things. I’m embarrassed to even admit this, but yeah, don’t buy one of these trucks.
Looks like they got you right there.
The dealers now suck just as bad their Gremlin infested trucks. Dealer just ripped me off on service work that was not performed.
@@j.r.f8381 thats shameful. You should contact toyota corporate.
I've heard mixed reviews, some dealers seem really good while others not so much. Where are you located? I hope your issues gets sorted...a diff leak could be a number of things, maybe they overfilled...or maybe it's the seal. Hope it's not a big mess for them to fix for you.
@@TheCarGuyOnline thanks so much. I’m located in the State of Maine, but I purchased the truck from a Toyota dealer in Laconia, New Hampshire. I hope the front differential is just overfilled, that would make me pretty relieved!
Let me add to the bad news. My buddy is a service advisor for Toyota. They are having a large number of failures on the Tacoma's starter. More specifically the solenoid. It's leaving customers stranded with no way to start the truck. It's become so prevalent that the solenoids are on backorder and the trucks are sitting at dealerships waiting on the part to come off backorder.
do you know who makes the starter now? Heard on forums people having issues with the A/C compressors on the new Tacomas. someone mentioned nothing is DENSO (made in japan) anymore when it comes to alternators, starters, compressors, etc....
@@Max-ik9qbthe radiator and intercoolers are Denso. And on other 2.4T's Denso makes the starter, not sure why the Tacoma would be any different unless they're on backorder.
Name of dealership and location along with your buddy's name I'd like to give them a call to check this out.
@@fredsausage8794 you won't get it because trolling
Can confirm. I’m in the DFW area and all of the service advisor I’ve spoken to along with independent shops are saying the same thing. Tech’s are getting super frustrated reaching out to Toyota with no real answer or fix.
New Toyota is quickly destroying the rep that Old Toyota built through decades of hard work. For those that don't know, I say new Toyota, because in the last 10yrs a lot of the old Toyota bosses retired or stepped down, with a new generation taking. Essentially meaning Toyota is a whole different company now.
They are, in a way, behaving like the big 3 now.
I’m happy with my 2023 Camry XSE V6. 13,000 miles and everything is rosy. But but but, I did have a dash rattle that plagued the car in the first thousand miles. Took it to my local dealership twice and they finally squelched the issue by putting little dyna mat patches in the panel(s) where I was hearing it. Since then no noise. Fixed
@@TheCarGuyOnline coming out of 16 F150, id take it back in a heart beat over this trd OR. Even having driven the new f150's as work trucks id take any of them over this thing. ive owned a few different trucks and brands for various reason and the only thing i can compare this to is a 05 6.0 f250 i had that i knew was going to be trouble after getting it home and doing the maintenance on it.
They, like other vehicle manufacturers are getting in good with new toyota owners that replace their vehicles every year or every two years, hoping the taco will last 2 years with only minor issues. To make a lot of money, you need to see many of them as often as you can. In the faceb00k groups, most new taco owners are brand new to toyota trucks. The rest of us are holding back and letting them be guinea pigs.
This is covid engineering too. It takes on average 4 years to clean sheet design a new vehicle. I wouldn't buy any new vehicle designed by emails and zoom calls.
Toyota is like the rest of this world now lost
Has been trending that way for a while now. When they changed their new vehicle warranty to state that it was "normal" for Toyota engines to burn up to 1 quart every 1200 miles, that was big red flag. Particularly since it was their way of trying to doge lawsuits over selling engines with terrible oil consumption issues.
Naw Ford's good
@@marklihsu LOL
Every single position at my job has been compromised. Weird how it seems a large amount of people just got wayyyy dumber and don't care about anything; especially their own work. Everything is bare minimum.
Ouch! These trucks have been legendary for so long. Sad to see the way they are going.
Toyota has a massive propaganda team behind them. They've never been great but somebody read on the internet that "they last forever!" and it started spreading like a wildfire. Like I know older Toyota trucks that have 400,000 miles on them and have been on their 3rd engine or transmission, and people legit keep putting money in them while claiming it's indestructible. It's a mind virus
Sad to say, there are no other decent brands either....
As a current 2018 Tacoma owner I now have to say good bye Toyota.
why? it’s not like the previous gens have very many problems
Wise move unless they own up to these issues which they show no sign of doing
These are not just problems they are major issues due to cynical and lazy design philosophy
Tragic
I sold my 2019 Tacoma TRD OFFROAD and replaced it with a 2023 Frontier PRO-4X.I love my new Nissan!
I have had zero problems with my 2016 4runner trail with kdss, I bought this truck new and have overland with it as well as being my daily driver. I to think toyota will bounce back after all this. This is really not what toyota is about. Just like all the other manufacturers out there, they all seem to go through a recall on their new products. I still would like to keep faith in toyota and not jump the gun on them. I love my 5th gen and would still hesitate to trade in on the new 4runner. If That day comes. It will probably be the new land cruiser since I'm not keen on how the six gen looks.
Its a new product. Give it a couple years.
Toyota quality has taken a deep dive
Hater much lol
@@Shape_studiozhow is he a hater? He’s just stating a fact for the current state of the new Toyotas rolling off the line.
@@Shape_studioz FACTS
Made in mexico 😂
@@Shape_studioz Obviously a fan boy. Sad really. I own a 2023 Taco, love it, but won't defend these poorly designed and badly assembled 2024 models. The 2025 models did not bring mechanical improvements only color changes. Now that is a sad reality check for all Toyota followers and owners, me included.
Meanwhile my 20' Frontier with the first year vq38 and 9 speed remains.... absolutely perfect.
I love my 2024 PRO4X as well.
I just purchased a 24 Titan Pro4x and love it thus far
The Nissian Frontier ProX4 is the new front runner for reliability, build quality, and price point/value. I would still buy a Nissan over a Toyota right now even if they are hurting financially and probably will go bankrupt or sell. That’s how bad Toyota has gotten….The people have spoken. 😮😢
@@Slammingutzwhat about Nissan sedans are they reliable I’ve seen so many problems with the cvt
My 98 Tacoma could eat your Frontier (a place never goes) alive.
My question is this, if theyre replacing the transmissions with the exact same part….why would you assume this wouldnt happen again??
Hard to know yet. Some people have over 10k on them with no issues so, could be another "debris" issue...lord only knows. The 2018 Camry had similar issues when it first came out, I think the ended up reprogramming it and haven't had issues since.
@@TheCarGuyOnlineI'm one of the impacted owners, my Toyota tech was unable to answer if the replacement part is a new part or just the same one. Mine broke in early July, they got the new transmission, but then Toyota told them not to install it because it was the torque converter that caused the initial failure that broke the trans, and would also need to be replaced. It will be two months before I get the truck back.
@@jackcrackerman Man that's rough. I hope they get it figured out soon. You going to wait for the truck to get fixed or do a buyback?
@@TheCarGuyOnline I am not sure yet, I know I want a truck for the things I like to do, but I don't have a lot of confidence in other brands either. I have at least one friend for each brand working on a lemon law buyback (One is a chevy, another is a ford). Overall, I like the look of the Tacoma, the interior is what I wanted, and the drive was pleasant until the transmission failed. My dealership has gone above and beyond to help me, but Toyota certainly isn't doing themselves any favors by dragging out this fix and I'm afraid if I do a buyback, I won't be able to find another tacoma with the features I want and without all the junk that tends to get added at port inflating an already expensive price tag.
@@jackcrackerman Chances are after the new transmission you probably won't have issues, and it'll still be under warranty. If you are someone that keeps vehicles for 2-3 years then cycles them, and stays in powertrain warranty, nothing to worry about at least from a cost perspective. The hassle factor is another story :)
This is why I bought my 2024 5th Gen 4Runner. The last of a legend.
Smart man.
Me too
@@SLHJR039024 4runner TRD Pro version in Terra color. Loving it
@@swirvin704 grabbed a silver TRD ORP, 24’ couldn’t have been happier to upgrade from an 09 4Runner and 2002 100 Land Cruiser.
It will be years for Toyota to recover. Obviously, the quality control they were famous for is gone. It's not just engineering but the manufacturing and quality of parts used in such have sunk to new lows.
It is a problem of Usa developed Toyota's......
Toyota is doing fine (albeit the engine recall is a mess). It’s always stupid to buy a new model year from any brand. In 3 years time all these issues will be gone.
@@mkyhou1160 why not make a good car from start?
@@avdp9095how? No automaker has ever achieved that. There are always unexpected issues with new designs. A big part of why Toyotas are so reliable is they don’t change design very often. When they do, it’s time to stay clear for a few years from that model.
@@mkyhou1160 we have no problems with European build Toyota's sofar. I reallyvthink Toyota Usa is far to independent within Toyota company and has the lowest quality cars in the whole Toyota lineup Worldwide. It is simply an attitude ' thing' Americans have simply no clue, and no attitude, about developing and building quality cars.... .
My coworker just bought his wife a 2024 Toyota land cruiser. At 700 miles it is having serious electrical issues. At one point it wouldn’t shift out of 1st gear and now the screen just stays off.
Tell them there's more fun ahead when the engine crank bearings fail within 30K !
Yeah, Toyota has ruined all their vehicles with the new twin turbo/turbo/hybrid engines. Tell your family and friends not to buy any new Toyota’s until new leadership and build quality improves. Toyota has lost their minds and I’m not buying anything new from Toyota for a long time.
The only reason people went to Toyota was the reliability. Without that, they really don’t have much to lean on…
I have a 2022 Toyota 4RUNNER SR5 Premium 4WD that the transmission and suspension
both strangely seem to be perfectly fine on. I will not be tempted by the cheapened 2024 Tacoma or the soon to be cheapened 2025 4RUNNER. I plan to hang on to my bullet proof ‘22 T4R for many years to come.
One of the best vehicles ever made. People are too obsessed with new tech and their trucks riding like Cadillacs.
So happy I decided to order a Ford Ranger to my exact specs.... And I'm saving a ton over a Tacoma.
You only save a ton when you do not buy anything, otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.
🤦♂️🤦♂️@@riseabove3082
Almost bought a Ranger Lariat loaded but goggled their recall and TSB list and found it a mile long. Got my deposit back. Ford quality is not too good as of late but I wish you all the best with your Ranger.
No bump stop AND a cheap, low quality shock top hat that cracks into pieces when the "offroad" truck hits a pot hole any car could handle.
Come on toyota, you can cut some corners, you can't cut EVERY corner.
@@jonesjones7057 an offroad car that cant handle a pothole. Mind-blowing that people buy this
Engineer should be fired
Well said!
Takes 4 years to design a new vehicle....what was Toyota doing 4 years ago? These engineering decisions were made over conference calls, emails, and zoom calls....in 2020. I wouldn't buy any pandemengineered car.
I’ve been looking to get a tacoma but after doing my research, I concluded toyota is having too many quality and design issues. Gave up on toyota and got frontier pro4x instead…100% happy with my decision.
Good decision to buy the Nissan Frontier. Toyota has lost their minds. Most average Americans can not justify spending around 50K for a midsize truck that will definitely have issues with that Turbo and transmission within 100K miles and gods know what else will break or need “recalled” at this point. Epic fail Toyota
Exact same situation for me. My 2001 Tacoma PreRunner (510,000 km) finally gave up the ghost. Intended to replace it with another Taco. Did my research and nope, no way with all the failure reports and Toyota Corporate attitude towards the poor owners with the problems. Bought a Nissan Frontier Hardbody. Love the V6.
@as2223 Again you troll? What utter garbage you spout! The Frontier has a total of ZERO recalls and 12 TSBs of which all are minor electrical LCD ones and 6 are piffling nonsense. Google it if you know how to. The trannies are not failing they are smooth as silk. I know because I own one. You probably don't own anything but a skateboard and just wished you did. Move out of your mom's basement and take your irrational Frontier hatred and nonsense elsewhere.
Makes me appreciate my 1987 Toyota pickup. It will survive the apocalypse.
Thank you for not being a shill like TuRD Jon.
I agree. I commented on his video about the issues Toyota and sequoias have he just replied, saying he hasn’t heard anything like that saw anything online when there’s a whole forum on a vibration issue for the tundra. Clearly trd Jon is a suck up for Toyota.
Uh, he just praised him and said he has owned both and that is why he should be listened to.
i notice he blindly praises Toyota as well. I bet you Toyota has paid him one way or another, such as flight and stays for these press events and more. I’m so glad more people are noticing this.
@@tomkillsall I watched one (not the whole thing) video from trdjon and could not handle him. He is an obvious shill and will say or do anything for views. I don't get how he has a channel and I don't get anyone who praises him.
TRD Jon is a liar from hell.
Toyota has been going down hill for a while! People grew up being socially constructed to think they are amazing, but if you are not a toyota fan boy you know better!
The new CEO only cares about making as much money as he can with his stock options. He doesn't care about Toyota's legacy or customer base
They lost my trust when they designed crappy piston rings in 2008 which screwed up lot of engines in a lot of their models. The worst part was they knew about it and still didn’t fix those issues post warranty because they were dishonest and not willing to own up to their problems and stick their faults on unsuspecting owners.
I have a bagged 95 Tacoma and an 01 Celica. Still choochin. Of course they deserved their reputation at the time but they’ve been coasting on that perception for a veerrrrrrry long time and now they’ e finally flushed it down the toilet.
These trucks are just poorly engineered. After watching the car care nut video on the TRD PRO I'm just shocked at how bad these trucks are. Frame sliders that are hooked up to the body?! These other guys blowing through a shock on not very difficulty offroading. The pop heard around the world on TFL's truck. My guess is the hybrid system is so expensive that their doing everything they can to cut corners to keep the price from close to six figures. And their still stupid expensive.
The TRD PRO does not have "rock sliders." Those "sliders" on the PRO are meant to protect the body from rocks thrown up from high speed off roading. PROs are not meant to be rock crawlers. The Trailhunter is the version with proper rock sliders that can take the weight of the truck.
Every new model has teething problems and that's why many ppl prefer to wait for the 2nd or 3rd year examples. I do agree though that Toyota's pricing is way too high!
@Justmejbful ok fair enough as far as what I thought were rock sliders. Transmission issues I would chalk up to early issue bugs. But no bounce stops. According to Sheldon on tfl they used the same add as before and there were no issues. But the 3.5 v6 made 265ftlbs at 4600 rpm. The previous 4.0 v6 made 266 ftlbs at 4000 rpm. This engine makes around 300 and change around 2000 rpms totally different power curves. And they use the same component as before. Seems poorly thought out. I just can't get past the lack of bumpstops. There's all sorts of other things that are not good. I was a Toyota fan but what a debacle this truck and the tundra truly are. And the tundra has been out for around 3 years it's not new.
I don't blame the engineers, I blame the bean counters that cheapen the final product.
@chuckgilly my guess is the hybrid system is incredibly expensive. So between cutting corners and cutting costs plus spreading the price around to every other model, we have what we have.
I would love to know the person,s and department that signed off on the NO bumpstops or maybe they just let AI do the work...
Seems like all these new generation trucks skipped out on the longer term durability and torture testing. Can't imagine that these issues wouldn't have shown themselves during prototype testing.
As if i needed more of a reason to avoid buying this 4banger fart box.
not all of them are bad. my taco is 2018 4 banger and hasnt been to the dealership once 🥲 indestructible 2tr-fe with the same transmission that comes on the heavier and bigger v6 models so you can say its over built
Hilarious and very accurate. 😂😂😂😂
@@skateinspace n/a 4 cylinder is fine. I dont want a turbo charged, small engine. Too much workload on such a small block and more maintenance cost. More power, more problems.
@@Yunggrippacuz its not too much. theres thousands of turbo charged engines on the road today that have gone without problems. They dont chase gears near as much. if you drive it normal it gets far less abuse than a na engine. I personally cant stand NA engines after being in turbo gas and turbo diesels. 3500rpm to climb every small hill is just silly.
@Ttallonn. It is OBJECTIVELY too much. Turbo's are like steroids. They increase short term strength/power output. But they are hard on your body/engine. They wear out the insides faster. Naturally aspirated engines are less powerful...but more likely to love longer. When buying 50,000 dollar trucks....longevity matters. Of course you will get turbo engines and steroid users who love long. But on average, the non-steroid user and the naturally aspirated engines will live longer. If you can afford turbo's...great. I am not denying they are a more fun driving experience. I am saying they are less cost-effective for most of us and the less intelligent buy for people who need am A to B vehicle that gets work done over the next 5 to 10 years of ownership.
Keeping my old Tacoma for far longer than expected.
I would hesitate buying new vehicle from any manufacturer at this point
Honda V6 is still descent
@@LoveLikeaHurricane agree.
THIS
They all seem to be selling high prices garbage now. Too many electronics ilof cheap origin, emissions standards that are wrecking engines. You name it. Corporate greed.
And this is why I laughed at the Salesman last November who asked me “why are you buying a 23 when the new ones are being delivered in a few months?” I’ll never buy a new version of any vehicle.
Took possession of mine on November 15th. I'd also rather have the last year of a model than the first.
Sounds like that salesman knew then what problems they'd have with selling the 2024.
Enjoy your gutless 3.5, Im here in my 4.0 cruising like a boss.
Smart man. Listen to the mechanics and experts who warned everyone about the new model years of cars/trucks. The mechanics also predicted the new Toyota trucks and SUV’s were a terrible design and the quality was subpar.
@@BigChiefWiggles Thanks I will. My 2023 Taco will very likely still be on the road when your I-4 turbo will very likely be in the scrapyard. Fact not fancy. I own a Porsche and rebuilding that turbo motor was nearly the cost of a new one. I honestly wish you the best of luck and hope that IF it does crap out, it does so while you're machine is still under warranty.
Toyota makes some of the most beautiful paperweights now.
Keep these videos coming and thank you for posting all these Toyota problems with the new platform. I was a Loyal supporter and loyal customer but I knew these issues would keep popping up with Toyota’s new cheap and greedy vehicle platform. All the old loyal customers look closely at build quality and engine choices. A large customer base of Toyota buyers and enthusiasts are mechanics, engineers, and DYI-ers. This is why people (including me) were so mad and disappointed at Toyota those same loyal fans and customers combed through the new Tundra’s and Tacoma’s and pointed out several pitfalls and potential problems fresh out of the manufacturing facilities. Let’s hope Toyota gets the message or else I and many others will leave the brand for a very long time. Who is with me? Thanks again for highlighting these issues and keep on doing the right thing.
2024 4Runner v6, perfect. They finally fixed that cold start idle rattling I had with the 2018.
So happy
Keep up the good work delivering us with good information to keep us informed.
It’s unreal how awful these new Toyotas are. Not only issues with powertrains, the interior quality is absolute trash. These are beautiful new vehicles as far as looks but everything else is trash.
There was a time when I would drive nothing but a Toyota now it’s the opposite
except what's better? New ranger has massive issues too.
@@hkfan4596 look to european cars , if im gonna have reliability issues either way and both are not cheap at least give me comfort or luxury
@@hkfan4596BMW
As an engineer who has designed top mounts and strut mounts, clear design issues. Someone didn’t do their design homework and validate load paths correctly
Modern manufacturing has really taken cost cutting to the extreme. Everything looks like it's built out of balsa wood.
@@TheCarGuyOnline it’s called optimization. Most of the issues I see within the industry are related to insufficient time to develop and validate a vehicle program. Toyota is no exception. Not enough time and development. We have to make assumptions early in a project at start of development and sometimes things are not caught at SOP
@@Crash-hq6rt In the case of the top mounts for the struts, do you think their engineering samples were just stronger than the "assembly line" variants for the smaller piece that is breaking? Seems like once you shrink things down and ride the line of failure vs. not failure, the cast/quality of materials starts to matter a lot more.
Correct. I work for a mechanical engineering firm and there are so many design flaws on the new Tacoma’s and Tundra I can’t and won’t go through the list because I just don’t care enough about Toyota and there terrible engine and quality build choices anymore.
@@TheCarGuyOnline no, we do representative prototypes majority of the time especially when more vehicles are built and validated. Those are non salable vehicles tested for everything plus durability. Toyota has really strict die cast standards. Most OEMs do as well, low porosity requirements. Normally at SOP there is a higher inspection standard for 90 days and I’m guessing there is no problem in material or in the quality. Toyata is very strict on approving suppliers, especially casting.
Speed limit on certain highways is 85 in Texas. If that car can’t handle that, it shouldn’t be sold here.
I got my old '06 Corolla past 85 a couple times and it didn't catch fire.
I’ve become such a hater. It’s like I get excited to see all the problems happening with the 24 Tacoma. I’m not proud of you guys. I was in the market for a small/midsize truck in 2022. Put an order in for a maverick. By 2023 I started looking at used Tacoma‘s, but then saw the redesign and was going to wait for it. While waiting, I got hooked on the new Nissan frontier pro 4X, so I ended up buying one at the end of the year. Now, every time I see a disaster video on the new Tacoma it makes me feel better about my purchase. It’s the little wins in life that bring us joy. 😂😂😂 seriously though, it sucks for the guys buying this truck.
@@MTG_22 it does suck, but i struggle to feel bad for them.
1. Its grossly overpriced
2. It’s a first year of a new gen. They kind of deserve it for being a loyal cultist. Brand loyalty doesnt mean shit.
And when Nissan goes bankrupt, I too will laugh at you guys that bought a Nissan, says no-one. This seems so weird to get excited over the downfall of someone picking something else. I think you may have issues that need worked out.
@@riseabove3082I love hating on new Toyota because comparing it to the previous gens it’s absolute garbage
The new Ranger has the bulletproof tried and true 2.7 ecoboost available in it.... known to go over 300,000 no issues...
@@barrya.6212if you think the 2.7 is bulletproof, the UA-cam channel FlyingWrenches is a Ford tech; you're going to be disappointed.
Great video, not bias at all, just objective analysis of official reports, and yes, It doesn’t feel like toyota when all this problems hit at once.
Toyota is a thing of the past they suck
id still buy yota over the crappy 3!
@@vikashummer You must be a fan boy to spout such drivel. No matter who builds it, crap is crap and to love one pile of crap more than another pile of crap shows a mental deficiency.
Toyota has a new CEO, they need to replace him ASAP
If this sh*t keeps up you can bank on it.
I agree with you. We expect a lot more from Toyota. They set the bar really high
Not the quality company it once was. The trans issue is common.
So glad I bought my 2024 Wrangler Rubicon. The Jeep is solid and built well. No mechanical failures and no recalls!
Times are a changing lol. Aye the jeeps are looking like nice options. More reliable than new gen yotas. Never thought i’d say that lol ❤
Lololol
Congrats, I bought 24 RUB X in June. love it.
Stories about the strut mounts failing have been out for some time now. That ICON video seems like they knew exactly the case scenario they needed to reenact on camera so they could advertise their fix for the shock mount. Genius marketing strategy if you ask me.
I would sympathize with Toyota of Japan if they step in and handle what’s happening on this side of the world. It must feel like shit to realize after expanding to become a world brand that the workforces in many other countries couldn’t give a shit about your manufacturing quality. The Japanese people was where their success originated.
They don’t even have bump stops soon. They won’t come with tires it’ll be optional.
and those tires will come with unnecessary wifi, an 8 inch display, with touchless lugs.
I noticed they ware designed and built in the USA as a young adult we always looks for a J in toyota's serial numbers stating built in Japan. Had a deposit for a 2024 and am I ever glad I bought a 2023 in December tacoma off road edition.
😮
They're built in Mexico...which really isn't the issue...it's the TOYOTA design that's the problem.
@barrya.6212 it's was built and designed in the USA and fabrication in Mexico. There's the problem.
Just picked up a 24 4Runner before they disappeared. LOOOOVE it. Wouldn't touch a new Toyota truck till at least 3rd model year, and that is even questionable.
Great video as always.
Yeah, you shouldn’t be taking your four wheeler off road🤣
So sad to hear this. I just bought a 2024 Tacoma. Having issues with the alarm system doesn’t let me start it, so far.
Moved their manufacturing to Mexico and there's issues...?
Who could have guessed....
Tacoma has been made in Mexico for years... it's really Toyota management culture as a whole going down. Their moto/ideals/values has drastically changed to just "good enough" from yesteryear's "bulletproof".
They always were made in Mexico. They’ve always been junk. The media is just no longer protecting Toyotas “reliable image” it’s finally ok to openly call out their crap quality.
As expected
Let's blame the assembly line like all these issues are assembly related 😂😂😂
How about the bad design? Cheap parts? Cost cutting?
These are problems with the design, not with the manufacturing.
😂😂 Yes Sure Design issue is now Manufacturing issue 😂😂
When you let the bean counters control everything
I doubt I will buy another Toyota, after not honoring their warranty.
I hope the effected individuals sue and win.
Glad I bought my 5th gen 4Runner when I did, im assuming all these issues will also start showing up in the new 4runner.
The town i live here in mexico theres is 3 2024 tacomas and i own 1, 2 have transmision problems, min is been towed to the dealer next week, same problem
I am sorry for you and hope your issues are quickly resolved.
You are right about all vehicle OEMs are struggling with quality in the past 1-2 years...shortage of skilled workers post Covid is hurting not only the OEMs but the entire supply chain. I suspect that this will continue for a couple of years until the entire system is corrected.
I'm driving a '17 TRD Sport with 113K and it still drive like brand new. Plan on keeping it for a very long time. I'm not brand loyal and might look at Frontier as my next one.
These manufacturers usually test the product beforehand so it’s bizarre this is going on.😢
They've got a LOT to fix in order to revive the name. I remember the '05 and '06 had motor mount issues and gasket problems. Toyota fixed those issues after a couple years. Let's hope they do the same - and drop that ridiculous price tag. I'll go for another 2nd gen or 3rd.
And don' forget the thousands of Tacos with frame rot. I owned one and never received full compensation as far as I was concerned.
Own a 24 Tacoma since the release late winter, have 11,430 miles on it. No issues, more comfortable, smooth and responsive ride, more quiet, more power than my former 21 model. If I had any problems I'd be the first to complain. I'd like to see some accurate numbers of Tacoma sold along with accurate numbers of those sold with real problems. Otherwise it's all just hearsay to me.
Toyota has confirmed transmission issues, they said it was with an "early batch" or something along those lines. The automatic issues and manual issues were two different problems, but in theory, they should be good from here out. This is all according to things I'm reading today/watching today. It's hard to know though, they said the same thing about the Tundra with engine issues and those carried on for years. I have heard the Taco seems a bit better built than the tundra for whatever reason, feels tighter/less wind noise etc...
They're not selling enough to get the data you want. My local dealer has at least 10 facing the street; no idea how many are farther into the lot. I'm not sure that's ever happened with the Tacoma.
@@doom4067 taco sales are down for sure, they are still selling quite a few but, nowhere near what they used to. I think it’s a combination of reasons, prices higher, interest rates are higher and people want to avoid first model your problems.
@@TheCarGuyOnline The price they're asking is hitting sales as hard as their technical glitches are. Uncertainty rules the sales figures.
If you use the bracket for the top strut you can’t use any spacer lift on new Tacoma just FYI.
just bought 2023 tundra and love it
Love my 2023 TRD PRO even more now :). Everyone was telling me to wait for the 2024
Good choice and good luck with it. I bought a newish 2023 TRD OR and am felling okay about that.
The Ford "killer airbags" is due to a Japanese supplier (Takata) using a chemical mix for the gas generator that could become unstable over time when exposed to too much heat. So it's bad luck but not Ford's fault in this case. Turns out the bad design also killed Takata, which declared bankruptcy in June of 2017 under the weight of the recalls and lawsuits.
I drove a Subaru during that. They recalled my airbag, replaced it withe the exact same airbag, and then recalled the airbag again.
I'm hoping mine doesn't act up. It's such a huge improvement in drive quality from the 3rd gen.
I stayed with the “old school” 2023 4.0L 4Runner. I hope it lasts like the past…
I hope you are right and thats why delaying the 4 runner.
13 double cab shortbed 4.0 175k mile garage wrencher original owner here. Pissed to hear of reliability issues with the new tacomas and tundras. I don’t know why Toyota chose to complicate things with their new line of trucks.
Cannot be 100% certain, since I don't know if it is or not made of aluminum. However, if it is, then that would explain why it broke. Steel has a much greater ability to flex, absorb impact and return to its normal shape compared to aluminum.
Yeah looks like aluminum. Lots of new aluminum on all of the trucks to lighten them up.
Has Toyota done some DEI hiring in their engineering and management departments just prior to the development of their latest vehicles?
I paid $25k for my new 2009 V6 access cab Tacoma. Fully loaded 4x4 with TRD off road package. It’s still going strong. There’s no way I would trade it in for a new Tacoma. They are over twice the cost of mine and not nearly as rugged.
Nissan needs to capitalize on this and move lots of Frontiers.
They moved one to my garage and I couldn't be happier.
I just can’t get myself to buy any Nissan.
Had it with every auto make, but exception for mustang.
@@crosisofborg5524 Get over it. I did and am smiling by the mile. Red Alert in color, LWB with 6' bed Pro-4x
No more overbuilt trucks, it’s built for fuel efficiency like a car. The bump stop on the shock mounts is a fail. They need to go back to frame mounted bump stops.
Yeah looks like a very weak design on the shock.
For those saying “this is Toyota, they will fix this”, yeah, they will surely fix some of these issues, but this is not the same old Toyota. Part of what made Toyotas so reliable historically is that they kept things as simple as possible and then repeatedly improved from that baseline. These new pickups are ridiculously complex, and obviously cheaply made in many respects (“cutting corners” - yes, obviously) while concurrently being sold at relatively high prices. Toyota has for a long time been #1 overall for me, but not now, and I can’t see that changing in the very near future.
Just got my 2024 tacoma trd sport back from the dealer where they replaced the six speed manual with a new one was sitting there since June 10 th
I drive a 2016 Tacoma with 175k miles no issues. I’ve also had a 06 Camry with 220k miles before someone totaled it. I have a 2016 Camry with 150k miles, no issues. Had an 03 tundra 240k miles
All vehicles with no issues.
My local Toyota dealer is JAMMED with brand new Tacomas and Tundras that are not selling. My local Nissan dealer is selling frontiers by the truckload and has a ton of last gen Tacomas in the used section. Glad I bought my Frontier before the mad rush for them.
That one guy should market his fix to the shock top.
I bet he would make some serious bank off that product.
I'm so happy with my 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x!! Nissan is hands down the best for trucks!!
It's no surprise to see 4runner sales up on the last year model of the 5th Gen 4runner. People know what's coming with the redesign 4runner, add the issues reported on the New Tacoma it just makes since to buy the most reliable model vs gambling on the new one. Hopefully, by year 3 of the 6th Gen 4runner the bugs will be worked out, and the reliability outlook will be better.
I really like the looks of the new 4runner. I hope they get their issues figured out. Too many new vehicles on new platforms for Toyota....almost impossible to get it all right IMO.
Our 21 Tundra has a bent spindle yet they looked at at 11000 miles did an alignment and never told me then. Now at 28000 it’s out of warranty by thirty days and they refuse to warranty;( we drove five hrs one way to get the last 21 on the east coast and the ball joint has popped from day one. Sorry service when the local dealership hangs up on you multiple times.
Not surprised on the parts shortage for the new 4Runner. My 2019 has a bad AC compressor and there’s not 1 OEM or aftermarket to buy for it. I was told maybe December by 3 mechanics and the dealership. With 57k miles, I’ll take my chances with a Ranger or Bronco before another Baja Build Toyota…
I bought a 2023 Tacoma sport 6000 miles no problems .I was not going for the 2024.
More reasons why keeping your Toyota/Lexus pre-2022 or 2023 when they re-did every vehicle they have on the market. I would argue though it isn't just Toyota but Ford and GM and pretty much everyone minus Honda. Outside of the issues they had at the beginning of the 1.5 turbo Honda has been able to stay relatively clean with recall and just trashy manufacturing issues.
I am a 2021 Tundra owner and my wife has a 2020 Acura MDX that we bought both of them brand new, and I told my wife we are owning these for the long-haul at least 20 years each. She agreed nothing out there is worth buying.
Not any more. Honda is in deep trouble with thousands of recalls from what I have read.
@ thousands?
I bought a brand new 2021 Chevy Colorado LT in 2020. It has V6, Crew Cab with 6' bed, tow package, convenience package, bed lining, metallic blue ($600 😡).....out the door with all the fees,etc, for $32,500. Coming up 4 years and still no issues. I wanted a Toyota but can't afford one. I had a budget of $33,000.
You may be lucky that you couldn't afford it...
This is why I keep my old Toyota and Lexus vehicles...paid off and never lets me down.
Well at this point what manufacturer isn’t having problems or recalls? What truck should we get ?
Nissan Frontier PRO4X.
@@bobdole7701 true but that’s only cuz they were smart and didn’t make any major changes to their power trains.
@@jeremiahvazquez15 I agree so I bought a 2025 P4X three weeks ago.
Check out the video from taco garage as well they had the same issue as ICON a few months ago ago I had to install the new part to avoid it
To be honest, I’m wondering if the jump in sales on the 2024 4 runner is just people rushing to get theirs before the 2025 comes out.
Wohoo!! Glad I’m seeing this after buying my 2023 Tacoma trd pro
Keeping my 21 GX460 indefinitely
Reliability is becoming a major issue - my 2018 C-HR has less than 50k miles. The K114 CVT is not known for reliability. Forums filled with "humming noise of death" and it takes $10k just to fix -- transmission and torque converter. The main issue is the variator bearings inside - not a serviceable part? Got fluid flushed at 30k miles and will keep doing it every 30k miles.
I'm more of a half ton guy, the Tacos are just too small and clumsy. I rented one last week for work and I couldn't wait to get out of it, I'd rather drive and FJ cruiser. As far as the new Tundra.... don't get me started, my biggest surprise is that people are actually buying it as an overpriced 6banger just because its got 'some new tech'. We're in clown world.
Amen to that.
My dad has a Tacoma 4 cylinder 2wd automatic. I hope that thing wont give him any issues.
Toyota apparently misunderstood what people meant when they said they'd drive their old car until the wheels fell off.
As you said, more companies than just Toyota are taking shortcuts when building their vehicles, so anybody looking to buy something to replace their old vehicle will either be looking at an older model so that the kinks are worked out or choose the least awful modern option. Hopefully these issues lead to some kind of positive reformation in how the vehicles are made and how the companies treat their customers.
I’m going to stick with my 296K 1998 Tacoma 4X4. Still looks great runs great and it’s paid for since 2002.
I kinda miss my old 1st gen now.
Did Toyota even test these off road? Unacceptable.
They had to have tested them; they just didn't care.
This level of piss-poor quality is more like a cry for help. Good grief.
More good news for my new Nissan! 😍