Trangia Spirit Burner Vs Gas Adapter - Boil Test 27 Series
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A look at the Trangia Spirit burner Vs the Gas Adapter Kit. I bought a copy of the gas adapter for the Trangia system as it was a lot cheaper than the original.
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Great video . I use both I never go anywhere without the spirit burner and trangia triangle. I use the gas for food and at same time the triangle for a brew.. love it.
Yes i agree
I would still rather use the meths one. When I’m camping, time is inconsequential. I also love the nostalgic smell of meths, it has a lot of good memories for me!😁
I’m the same with glue…
For the USA California here is an excerpt to follow: "...There are areas in the USA where the alcohol stoves are prohibited. Alcohol-fueled backpacking stoves are banned in California state parks and forests due to the potential risk of forest fires and their lower efficiency compared with other types of portable camping stoves. These stoves produce an open flame that may be difficult to control in certain conditions, posing a fire hazard. In addition, they require more fuel to cook food and produce more smoke, which can be a nuisance for other campers. If you plan to use a camping stove in California, make sure to adhere to the restrictions set by each individual park or forest and practice safe fire techniques..." Cannister stoves are okay.
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I'm the same with coffee fresh-ground/opened
One thing to consider I suppose, is that the gas is on heat in a moment or so wheras the metho burner needs some time to warm up. The gas adaptor would be good for searing meat, etc. You can buy an adaptor for most gas stoves, etc so that you can take advantage of the 220Gm RVR (Rim Vent Release) Butane Canisters which are as cheap as chips. The adaptor doesn't add much weight and will save you a bomb over a few years. Good video, thanks.
Your greed for the lowest price makes you redundant. That is why so many great brands have disappeared from the UK. The price not only reflects the pure production, but also the idea, research and development.
I have a 25 and a 27. I use the alcohol burner in the 27 and it is most often used for making coffee or as a second burner. The gas burner stays with the 25, as it is used more for cooking meals for 2-4 people.
Another thing I've added, is an adapter for a butane canister. The type used in the portable butane burner stoves... the fuel in those bottles, costs a lot less than the camping bottles seen at camp stores... $5 for 5 vs $8 for 1, and you see the difference.
For everyone who is flirting with a gas burner for the Trangia 25 or 27: Try the Primus PrimeTec Stove (1.3 or 2.3 liters). very secure footing, very good wind protection, very fast and very quiet. Disadvantage? Very expensive! - Good work Paul and greetings from northern Germany
Another great video, thanks for the comparison. I have the 27 and I’m getting this for the times I just want a fast cup of coffee. Selling my other Coleman and others, sticking with the Trangia system and my Firebox I can do anything. Since I car/ tent camp ( I’m a 62 years old woman, and at times camp alone) weight is not so much of an issue. Except when camping in bear country and have to move things around all the time, those buggers are smart and have a great sense of smell. Lol. Trangia suits my needs. Again thanks.
Thanks Carmen "Stop making the bears coffee"
Just got the Bulin gas burner yesterday. I’m using it with my firebox folding stoves. I also have 5 trangia spirit burners as well as the Evernew titanium spirit burner. It’s great to have twig, alcohol and gas options. Thanks for the video. There are not many out there for the Bulin gas burner. I paid $12 for mine direct from China.
Great to have options Robert
The biggest issue with people in the EU buying anything designed and made in China, is that Chinese makers copy designs that they will not support if their product breaks or causes any issues. It breaks, probably gets binned and another is bought. It’s unlikely to be an issue for folk like us, which is often why we don’t see any problems with it but safety regs have to cater to people who might use a gas burner as eg. a tent heater. Leaky gas appliances kill at festivals. How would anyone report a Chinese company in the event of it going disastrously wrong? That’s one reason for why we pay more for the same thing made in China by European companies.
However, Trangia, for example, is charging far too much for its products and that causes people to look elsewhere. Pressed aluminium simply does not cost that much, so if cheaper Chinese aluminium kit was used and an EU certified (CE) burner used, happy days.
I really enjoy your videos and thanks so much for making them. This wasn’t directed at you personally, just the overall situation. Best wishes, Darryl :)
The gas is more efficient than the alcohol. But the feeling you get when you use alcohol is unbeatable
Especially after a gallon of Stella Artois
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@@GadgetMart I'm more of a wheat beer person, but Stella Artois works just as well
Good point about tossing that simmer ring on to snuff out the flame. I see people toss them all the time and often times they bounce back off.
The reason the pipe goes through the burner flame is to turn a liquid feed into gas, which may be necessary in winter when the gas canister is a lot colder, and therefore will not turn the liquid fuel contained inside into gas when the valve is opened. Furthermore this is a good safety measure as a liquid feed is very dangerous and will turn your camping oven into a raging inferno. Two thumbs up for Swedish engineering.
Yes that's right :) Thanks for the comment.
I thought the pipe was just to help with simmering / slow cooking stuff at low heat?
What you won’t get with the cheaper version is Trangia’s after-sales service- or fit apparently!!My gas adapter started leaking from a joint - after about 10 years- it was replaced without charge. The pre-heater loop means you can invert the canister.
Very good i have two spirit burner and gas for trangia 27 both made by trangia. Work very well.
Agree with aluminium melting xomensts.
Good Evening, Thanks for the great video! I have both the Trangia gas adaptor, and the Bulin, and truthfully, I strongly prefer the Trangia. The Bulin is cheaply made, and after using it a bit, I really don't trust it to hold up. The Trangia gas adapter fits into the Trangia kit better, in my experience, and just works better, for me. Juat my 'tuppence, and worth what you paid to read it. But, for me, it's Trangia all the way, and my Bulin is unused, now. Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
Purchased the gas burner for my trangia it is awsome. You can get an adapter so you can use the cheap butane cans directly to the trangia then use the propane if temp is under zero as straight butane will freeze up hope this helps enjoy. Cheers Steve.
I have an adapter that lets me refill my can from the butane cans. amzn.to/2NKQUXc
I going to need a replacement knob for the teapot-it melted. I am pretty sure that using the gas attachment (on a very windy day) might have overheated the pot. So I got creative and purchased a cabinet knob to replace the melted one on the teapot-it works great!
LOL I like it
😁😂🤣😃😍😅😆 I melted one of my billy pots trying to bake with the sport burner!
I still like the simplicity of the Trangia/Evernew burners. I even tried the Pathfinder & it was dismal at best. Save your money & get the Trangia or Evernew.
Thanks for the vid. I actually just ordered one of these off of eBay yesterday. I had been looking for a cheaper version for a while that was compatible with the Trangia 27 and had the preheat tube so I could use it in the winter. Looks like I made a good purchase. Mine was $17 US as opposed to the Trangia official one that sold for about $68. Its a great kit. Thanks again for the video.
Thanks for watching
Wow, you got a good deal! I couldn't find it for anything less than around the MSRP. Lucky dog.
I really think your reviews and test are very good. I've just ordered the bulin set for 43.- euros , I might use it for my sailboat
I shall not freak out with turning the spirit burner off any more 😂 great video thank you 🙏
Thanks lol
Thx, had this kit for a couple of years, never knew how use it! Gonna get the gas adapter!
Your welcome ;)
Really enjoyed your review. Nice, honest, side by side comparison. I don't yet have the gas attachment but will be ordering one before Summer's end. Thanks for showcasing them together.
I suppose, with experience, you'll know what sort of position to put the simmer ring at, before you start cooking,
perhaps needing a different angle for different food-stuffs .......
Slower - probably won't matter most of the time, bar an icy day when you need a hot drink quickly.
I haven't gone down the Trangia route - but did get 2 non-stick 27s recently, and am drawn to the meths
burner idea - available everywhere, and cheap
Just got a brand spanking new trangia 25-8 ul/ha for £60. Not picked any liquid fuel up yet to try it out but i already have a vango folding gas stove and coleman gas canister.
I thought I'd try and drop the vango stove in and and boil up the kettle.
It fits in pretty well although not quite flush, took almost 6mins to boil 0.9l of water to a rolling boil. So it's another option that works without any more outlay.
Great videos btw😁👍
Biggest difference for me I could hear the birds with the Trangia the Bulin was a jet engine by comparison.
A couple of minutes wait for boiling water I can wait.
Lee B when is 30F All I want is my coffee to warm up, otherwise I get what you’re saying.
Both are great for what mood and patience you have on the day. I use both for the reasons you pointed out.
THANK U
Ty for using both
So classic video
Hi paul.
I believe if you pull the stainless steel clip ends outwards a little the burner will clip into the windshield more securely. Incidentally, I think the preheat tube is more for liquid fuel such as Coleman fuel.
Why not buy anything original? Trangia design, innovate and create something and a Chinese company just copy it and making a profit out of it.
Came across this burner on one of Joe's 'Hooped Bivi Wildcamper' channel videos , which led me to your channel. Cheers Paul. New subscriber here and proud owner of the Bulin burner. Great channel.
Thanks ;)
So amazing
I noticed that you didn't clip the gas burner onto the base. The little wings clip under the trianga base, by sliding one in first and then the other making it a solid fit.
This is the reason why it wont fit snuggly
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The easiest way is to just bend the wing clips with your fingers to widen , then it fits perfectly.
That's what I was saying... my Kovea setup works and looks identical to that! It's obviously a good design!
I’m going to have to time my original trangia gas burner now. Thanks for the video.
Boiling water in a certain amount of time only depends of the BTU's used. More heat equals more fuel used equals more money. Do like to keep camping simple. Are the gas canisters refillable/ recyclable?
Yes i refill my cans with cheaper Butane from a cheap canister.
Paul Bisseker Bushcraft Thanks Paul, always like how other people do their thing. By the way, live in North West Arizona desert USofA. Your woods are beautiful, would like a tree no and then. So, subscribed and ringing the bell!
Thanks Darrell, i appreciate the support ;) More videos coming soon.
yep I use both; I also use the Trangia 'triangle' stand/sheild because it folds flat and weighs next to nothing; However I use the Army version of the Trangia Spirit Burner which is larger and holds more fuel (has a twist lid instead of screw lid) - I had to do a few mods to get it to fit within the triangle pot stand/wind shield though, and the only snuffer/flame adjuster that fits it is off a 'Tatonka' spirit burner.
It's good to do mods and find a setup you like. I have done a few tweaks here and there. Thanks for sharing ;)
had my first trangia meal (chilli) cook the other day on my recently acquired used 27 set because of your amazing cooking vids, have been using a pocket rocket that's useless for actual cooking but amazing for boiling speed. Have to say I prefer the almost silence of the spirit burner but found it still had a small hotspot with the simmer ring. I'll have to try a gas burner as it'll be a wider heat source and probably pretty quiet on low heat
Great to hear Martin i hope you are still cooking up a storm ;)
I no I've got same one. I was made up see you with same one .we must be special people Paul 😂😂😂😂
LOL I'm sure we are Special ;)
The most awesome title music ever heard.
My brother made it. Thanks
Loving your chanel mate
Keep it up.
Much appreciated
Paul, Great Video… where can one purchase the Bulin ?
Thanks Paul…..
This is the video that made me stop throwing the simmer ring at the fire.
Lol i'm glad James
I agree. Why not get this Chinese made burner. It’s cheap. It actually seems to work better too! I also have a Primus Omnilite Ti in trangia adapter for my duossal 27 which can also burn canister fuel. But I bought this cheap gas burner to keep with my 27 set. That leaves my Omnilite Ti back to stock setup and ready for other cool sets. Great video!
Had both burners mate. Trangia was ok but broke after about a yrs use. Maybe bad handling by me?
Bought the generic one of flea bay for half the price.
Had it four months now.
Downside... it's a bit heavier than the trangia original.
Plus side... it's easier to adjust flame than the trangia. Especially when you need a smaller flame.
I use mine mainly when beach fishing in every weather condition imaginable.
Great vids mate.. Good in-depth explanations and demos well done.
Thumbs up
Thanks David, it's nice to hear the views from a long tested user of them ;)
I agree with Titus I’m a massive fan of the bomb proof trangia yes the Chinese version is cheeper but will it last
I'm getting the gas burner for Christmas, have you tried the alcohol fuel gel?
Msr pocket stove is great also
Super useful video...thanks!
Hi Paul, I am sure if you used one of those diy penny stove burners it would be faster...maybe even 4 minutes...
I've got a clikstand that's the same as a trangia triangle and accepts trangia gas burner. That augments my 27-3. I'm surprised that the Chinese haven't copied the storm cookers yet.
I’ve got a Gelert copy of the 25 and that’s Chinese in origin. Cracking piece of kit. They’re rare as hens teeth now because trangia copyrighted the 3D shape of the trangia back in 2010.
Thanks for the link
You're welcome Colin.
hey Paul. what camera did you use to record this?
Thx for your videos.
I find the noise of the gasburners more anonying. I want my burner to be quiet especially for my morning coffee. 10min or 3min doesn't matter to me. But I don't like the smell of fuel on the alcohol stove either. Haven't dared to try the windshields with coals. Otherwise that would've been my optimum setup. A "twig burner" with a option for a alcohol. Alcohol burner for breakfast and when the forest is dry. Wood for making dinner and warmth in the evening.
If you know of any such options or if you can burn twigs in the trangia windshields I would be interested to know (could be a interesting video).
This is a great option for boiling a kettle of water. ua-cam.com/video/e7DWfi96XNI/v-deo.html
Perhaps you already found something suitable, but I use the Firebox Nano for this => twig burner with option for a Trangia burner. Works great!
I always measure out just one cup of water and it boils in no time with gas.
Hi Paul - Absolutely love your videos (and with Peter in the background!). How do you personally clean your cooking equipment before you go home. I have a Trangia 25 and was wondering how to clean it in the woods before packing it away. Thanks in advance.
Hi Simon, if i can find moss or grass even leaves i will give it a good rub around to get the worst out. I carry baby wipes so i will use those too. I always carry a carrier bag to put really dirty pans in too.
Thanks Paul. Good advice as ever. Keep up the good work.
I’ve been wanting to get a Trangia, but I live where there are always fire bans. I’ve been wondering about the knock-off gas burner since the real one seems hard to find right now in the USA. Thanks for the video.
I had thegenuine trangia gas burner and it packed in after 3 camping trips kept stuttering and popping became unusable. Bought a go systems for half the price and 3 years later still going strong.
That is a carbon copy of my story. 3camping trips with genuine trangia started popping became unusable
.5 years later go systems still going strong
It looks like they do a complete trangia copy now!
www.amazon.co.uk/Bulin-Outdoor-Cooking-Camping-Alcohol/dp/B074TFVMKS/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=bulin+gas+stove&qid=1579782880&s=sports&sr=1-7
Price would be another consideration? Gas or meths, which is more expensive?
Who is this Gas Bernhard I keep hearing so much about?
I have several alcohol stoves & I can tell you that your fuel is not up to snuff. Maybe it is contaminated with water, but the flame is too yellow & not jetting properly.
nice vids - have you tried the solid fuel converter? (it allows Trangia's to use hexi, Fire Dragon Fuel etc)
No i haven't tried that i will look into it.Thanks
@@PaulBissekerBushcraft I do have those little cups with a lid to fit in the Trangia #25&27. They are aluminum which some solid fuels corrode. So check for that. I believe the Trangia info says they are for gelled alcohol. I bought them hoping I could add solid fuel while cooking, but I would need fuel which does not effect aluminum. Thanks yet again, I am learning so much here on Paul's site.- FARMERIK
All you need is a little metal dish that fits the hole of the trangia for solid/gel fuel. Carry as backup in case of meths spillage.
After seeing your demo I might now get the gas-adapter but, with my trangia 27 purchased in the 1980s, it doesn't have that large hole in the windbreak to pass the hose-flange thru. Might need to get the dremel tool out and make another modification.
I had that problem with my 25 series No Hole! I cut mine out :)
Is there a tool to remove the hot trangia cooker and replace it with a cold one to continue cooking your meals? I dont have a trangia yet but i think it could be smart to buy another one but only the cooker itself, not the whole Set with the windshield etc..
I've never used gas stoves for cooking on while camping but I do love my trangia and for the price this gas burner is being offered at then I will give it a blast.
Are the gas bottle fittings pretty universal ?
Yes you can find these gas cartridges everywhere they were standardised ISO EN 417. Thanks for watching
Paul Bisseker Bushcraft cheers for the info.
I've just ordered the stove off eBay.
I'm looking forward to using it over winter.
Nice one. Make sure you buy a winter mix when you get gas ;)
Paul Bisseker Bushcraft what mix of gas is that then ?
I didn't realise it was so complicated. I was just going to get one that fitted.
All the cartridges are the same it's the type of gas they fill them with that;s different. Butane will freeze and propane won't at 0 degrees. They use other gases as well for burn performance. Check this one for an example: www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/p/primus-winter-gas-230g-cartridge-D3512042.html
you did not wait long enough for it to reach full heat
Cool gas attachment
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Wonderful comparison.
QUESTION:
Do they make a Tangia bottle like your red one, that has a pump on it so you can use alcohol with that Chinese burner and just pump pressure into the bottle.??
Do you know what I mean.??
Thank you sir for your time and comparison test.
I know what you mean. I have not seen one tbh. Thanks for watching ;)
I agree with Titus I’m a massive fan of the bomb proof trangia yes the Chinese version is creeper but will it last
Wau!..thats cool paul..i think i just need to buy bulin gas stove where its just same like trangia gas stove but dont know the quality..
It's stainless steel and is a high quality gas burner. It's just a gas burner without legs :)
Love the t shirt 😊
Thanks, You can get everything on Ebay LOL :)
It was helpful
I have a trangia and it's just simple and brilliant and brilliantly simple. I have heard rumors that there are other cookers out there but I think it is just rumors.
I keep hearing these rumors too. LOL
It's a no brainer,every thing you said about control of the flame🔥is bang on ,spead of boiling again a no brainer,having the spirit in reserve as backup is handy if you run out gas,it's a belt and braces job,one other thing is you pots don't get dirty with soot with the gas,the spirit you can get a sooty deposit on your cookware,but I must say the gas is the one to go for in my opinion.
Go Systems do a cheaper version than the Trangia original gas burner. I bought a Trangia one when they were about £30. It is still going strong. Much prefer running my Trangia on butane/propane gas as opposed to the meths/alcohol. So much easier and quicker to boil and cook, no smell and no worry about liquid fuel leaks or spills.
Also no soot everywhere to clean up off everything, including your hands...
Just sub’d your channel Paul and am going to invest in some Trangia gear but can’t decide between hard anodised/normal alloy or duossal .?? Anyway can’t believe you bought a knock off! I watched your vid on the Trangia fuel bottles and you said I don’t buy cheap anymore....come on practice what you preach paul
I will only be buying Trangia everything for sure so please try not to buy anymore cheapo gear Paul and keep up the good no bullshit vids👍
Thanks Shane, appreciate the support ;)
Duossal for serious camp cocking and the other versions if you want to save some weight for light weight hiking.
You can also mix the materials. I have added a non-stick pan.
can you put the gas burner inside the kettle?
dont need to worry about the aluminium melting it will just glow red hot with the gas on full and well with the spirits wont even go above 300 degrees
Ever tried nalgine canteens or bottles I love mine
I want buy thist but dont have in indonesia
Thanks for the link, didn't realise you could get a copy burner. Have the trangia 27 & triangle so will probably invest in this burner. Update, ordered this bulin burner plus 6 x coleman c500 cartridges! Quick coffees this year!
Will the gas adaptor fit the Trangia mini 28 stove?
The big difference between the alcohol burner and the gas burner is….smaller than the 11 minutes we spent watching the video.
fancy food gas works better, to boil water the alc stove is better and soundless in compare but both work great
Paul, great video, could you please (approx) tell me how much spirits m/l was used to boil the water....thanks.
8:46 It was 450ml
@@YouGruff I think 450ml is referring to the kettle water volume?..but how much liquid in the actual burner (ml) is the question I think. Great video👍👍👍
@@curandero Yes, you are correct thanks for clarifying.
No idea
I don't know how much spirit was used as i don't know how much gas was used unless i weigh the can before and after.
Think ill stick to alcohol burners, fuel are more plentiful at least where I live
Does anyone know what the others hole in the burner stand is for?
Mate that's a cracking substitute, I think you have sold me ! Atb wmm
big deference. but still only 3-4 min deference. but alchool got no noise! i am in no hurry and love wildlife noise insted of jets,,,,,but. if i go ice fishing. faster is better
tks. great video
Good vid mate, made an impulse buy of that gas adaptor. Have you tried nomex gloves for handling pots etc when camping ? There are cheaper gloves out there but these don't take up much space and aren't stupidly expensive. They're available on ebay too. ;-)
I haven't heard of them, i wear welders gauntlets when i do a proper fire. I will check them out thanks.
A lot more compact mate, I've not tried them when wet to see if they conduct the heat more though. Whatever works for you, I've used 'worky' gloves in the past when playing with fire and they're better than nothing if you're not fannying around, keep the vids coming.
I was just on ebay looking at them. They look thin. How long can you hold hot stuff for
I've not hung around but they're fine for quick stuff like grabbing pots off etc. The material is flame proof although there isn't a lot of insulation.
Cool i will check them out when i see them next time out
I don't know why your "clasp" doesn't work. Mine does. When I squeeze it, the stove base fits through the hole of the base plate, and when I release it, it locks in. It's perfect engineering in my opinion.
I see know that yours is a Bulin. I have the Trangia (the Primus). Maybe that's the difference.
I looked at the Bulin online and they misengineered it! It's like they didn't know what it fits into, and left out the "fold" that makes it lock in place. Oh well, you saved $45.
I find it way easier & convenient to pour a little metho than fart around with gas bottles, hoses & connectors. I can pick up a bottle of metho in my local supermarket for peanuts. That's why I went with a Trangia in the first place.
Yes i find it easier but slower. If you have the time to sit back and chill (As we should do) I use meths most of the time. Thanks for watching ;)
I bought one and it doesn’t clip in but it stills works. The clips for this stove is really a waste.
After everything is said and done which fuel type/brand do you find is the best for these Trangia style burners?
I use Methylated Spirit
Great review. I wonder if you could use it with just butane as I do not use mine in the really cold weather. I do not know if it would work right as it is a propane burner. Anyone know?
Yes it will work the same. I use butane also
Great, Many thanks for that paul.
Ive got the cheap gasburner also i got from wish and i love it, boil my water very fast, and i made a holder with 3 legs like any other stoves where my gasburner fits in so i can use the burner without the bulky trangia cookset if i want to and that works perfect too.
Paul Bisseker Bushcraftil does it work in liquid fed mode?
I'm not sure but probably not as its just an ordinary gas stove.
well to test it just lower the heat and turn the gas canister upside down.
ua-cam.com/video/G6mOSArJm7o/v-deo.html
It looks like it works
great video thanks for sharing !
And thanks for the tip on the trangia gas adapter is it the same as the go system one