The thing I'll say about Stephanie is - no, she's not innocent of what she did. She's one of the main reasons that Ashley is dead. She knew what was happening so I'm not absolving her of what she did. However: her father is like a cult leader and Stephanie grew up in that cult. Members will never stop defending their leader. She grew up in a really messed up environment thinking some really bizarre things are normal. You will never convince me that her dad didn't lend her out to some of those old guys. So, not innocent but a very skewed idea of what is normal.
Exactly. This messed-up way of relating to people is her baseline normal, she knows nothing else. Plus, we don't know whether she too is or was one of Vince's victims.
@@pendafen7405 Nobody will ever convince me she's not one of his victims. So, while she's not innocent of what she has done, turning a blind eye, telling lies to protect him, it's not really surprising. I just hope her kids weren't left alone with grampaw.
There's more than one kind of grooming. I can only imagine how skewed her perspective must be. But that doesn't absolve her of personal responsibility.
Vince has tainted not only his name but his father and grandfather's as well, He has grandchildren in college who will have to constantly hear about this
I get your point but anyone in there right mind is not going to say that Vince’s actions tarnished his father and grandfathers name. Considering they obviously had nothing to do with these allegations.
@@brentwebster6341 going forward this is gonna be what people think of when they hear the Mcmahon name, It's not about them but what their name turned into under Vince
HHH, Taker, Cena were all top guys and heavily involved with management. Im not saying they did anything but are you really gonna make me believe they did not know what was going on behind the scenes?
@@91mercedezhow is that … you saying a low card talent example like blue meanie had a relationship with Vince that was the same as a cena or taker hell no that’s like saying the caterer for a Miramax movie knew all along the Weinstein was banging anything with a hole
They all did horrible stuff for Vince and will try to cover up whatever horrors they committed. just because you like watching them wrestle doesn’t mean that they are good people
To be honest, my love for wrestling has soured. I still like podcasts about wrestling though so I'll still listen to this. Dark Side of the Ring is gonna have no shortage of material.
I agree to an extent, however, countless large companies and powerful mega-corporations still in operation today have FAR worse skeletons in their closet than this. It's terrible to think about, but it's not going to stop me from enjoying certain things, or stop me from looking upon my positive memories fondly. I think what's more important is not supporting such companies with your money ever again if you can help it... I've already stopped supporting WWE many years ago.
There's no way that all of these people knew and HHH didn't know. As far as Ari's claim that he'll get rid of anyone who knew, just remember Dana White didn't get fired for hitting his wife on camera in public. He'll likely get rid of HHH, but not Nick Khan. For years fans argued if the nWo or DX would run wrestling. Who knew it would end up being the Nation of Domination as the ones standing.
His wife slapped him first and then he slapped her she was drunk also dana was also indirectly promoting his slap sport or something. Dana and ari are very close. Somewhere I heard they both secretly might be working together to end wwe and eventually wcw it. They want ufc to be the ruling promotion financially by using wwe's legacy idk how much of this is true. Dana and vince did not have a good relationship in the past.
The word was CORROBORATE : To confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding). "the witness had corroborated the boy's account of the attack"
@@chadog900 I can confirm after living in both the US and England, it's surprisingly common. You'd be shocked how many English/Brits I've met who speak their own mother tongue worse than the average American.
@@rumarspencer7302 I expect Cena to be named in some way too only in the federal care since he refuses to do anything but talk about loving his friend and being there for him and just ignores the victims. I wont be surprised if stuff comes out about the kliq in this either since Nash literally blamed Janell Grant and brought those NDA shirts back out.
@@ItsMeMattCarter Nash and Cena still respect and like the McMahons, problem is they don't want to believe it, hard for them to fathom and they don't want to abandoned that respect they have for Vince, but more will continue to come out about Vince and it's gone continue to get worse for him.
Triple H knew as well. It’s just funny seeing fans try to protect him when he’s clearly part of the problem too. Where would he be if he didn’t marry into that bizarre family?
Fans are picking and choosing who they want gone and who they want staying with the company. When it was just Vince, no one cared but the second Stephanie and Triple H could be implicated, the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing was being thrown around everywhere. The McMahons are the biggest pieces of shit but, because Triple H, who is a McMahon threw and threw, is their favorite, they want to look the other way. Same people that advocate for Benoit to being in the Hall of Fame as well I suppose.
I'm glad you guys keep talking about this rather than letting it die. You could have given the source for those details though🤷🏽♂️ seeing as only a few journalists are actually working to dig this info up
I agree with you. Although a second-best solution -- everything I've been curious to find out here, I could still 100% confirm by looking it up and finding sources myself. So at least there's that.
@Hausbrauen yeah true there's that, but credit should go to those journalists who won't let this die or be buried which I'm afraid most of the wrestling world, including the fanbase, wouldn't mind happening
I’m so sick and tired of the Internet wrestling fans trying to cover for Triple H and Stephanie. They are monsters too. Fire everyone and reboot everything
As a woman myself, I'm happy to Stephanie to go down, so long as it's confirmed she wasn't victimised by Vince as well, which we don't know for sure yet. What Stephanie did to Chyna as well as Ashley is pretty damning, but let's wait and find out whether she was gr00med or not.
Because ppl have zero morals or integrity. And are lacking in brain cells. I stopped watching when I heard about all the creepy stuff in the late 90's. Who would shop at a business where the owner has covered up murders such as Snuka, rape involving Lawler, child abuse involving ring boys, sexual abuse involving Patterson, Hayes etc and Parents actually let their children go near these wrestlers and environment?. You should need a licence to have kids you really should lol
Yes, there's no doubt in my mind that Steph was at least gr00med. The red flags over the years we've seen her on TV (everything her father made her do) are too many to count. And that's just what we got to see and know about, there's sadly probably so much more behind the curtain. As for her marriage, this may be a reach, but I've always suspected Vince pressured and manipulated her to marry Paul, because HHH is the kind of man who fits Vince's ideal as a son (more than Shane).
@@pendafen7405That smackdown promo about being 17 and doing things for people for her father hits way differently now. Especially when you consider both that Savages ex wife Gorgeous George said he was drunk and admitted it happened (he and steph were a consensual thing and that's why he left and never came back) and this lawsuit and what Ashley and others are saying happened. I think she was groomed, did things and then covered other stuff up. Its a horrible situation all around.
I did not know about that secret porn business revolving around Ari Emanuel. Man... seriously NOBODY is clean in this, are they? Also, kudos to you guys for putting in the real work here... GREAT podcast!
Stephanie knew/knows about allllllll of her father's indiscretions. Remember, her Dad once wanted her to say that Shane was the father of HER kid. No to that idea? Okay, well, Vince can be the father then. Stephanie knew. Anyone in their circle knew/knows what goes on.
When I was still in school my father worked abroad for years, in Europe and the Middle East. To this day I don't know thing one about what he got up to during that time besides his job, and I don't want to know either. For all I know he could have fathered other children with a mistress and set them up, or have partied with escorts every weekend.
Yep. The one fact alone that Stephanie got tf out of the company, it was right before this slew of problems started to go public, AND she has been in seclusion from the public eye ever since... made it painfully obvious she knew about it all, and at the very least, allowed many terrible things to happen.
@pendafen7405 Your Dad was getting paid big money to work over there to provide so he could make sure you were good. So, if he was Ric Flair'n it up like that, you're right for not wanting to know. But I'm gonna tell ya he was probably a wild boy (but only enough to not get caught up, lol)
@Hausbrauen And Shane knew about some shit too. Never called anything out publicly but I'm sure if he didn't know directly, he heard about it. Perfect example is probably that Wrestlemania X-7 build up. Getting Trish half naked, slobbing her down in front of Linda, banging on Sable (which is also weird because she sued the E and came back) Also, Lesnar, right. That Vince/Sable storyline ummmm, wasn't Vince dealing with Lesnar while all that was going on? If so, holy shit.
Ari is widely considered to be a snake in the business world (not to mention his own involvement in various scandals) so that's unlikely. But it'd still be nice to see here.
TKO needs to get rid of Khan, HHH, Shawn Michaels, Michael Hayes, Bruce Pritchard, Bloom and any others from Vince’s regime. His ego and arrogance was his own undoing!!!!!!
@@SteveSport_ So simply based on pure conjecture and nothing else? Also, what proof do ya have that Shawn knew anything about the Janel Grant situation? Where in her lawsuit is he even remotely alluded to? Or are ya just talkin' out you a$$ and just hoping that not just Shawn, but all the others ya mentioned are removed based on nothing but guilt by association at best and your own conjecture without any evidence at worse?
@@Rednecknerd_rob9634 It’s not talking out my ass when people have a history of disrespecting others, ruining their careers and lives. History repeats itself. Michael’s is no angel , in case you forgot about his past deeds!!! People are judged by their actions. But then again, what will be will be.
100% Brickhouse Brown spoke about it. Kevin Nash kind of hinted of it years ago when he was more blunt & wasn’t so Hollywood. Dwayne Johnson said Pat Patterson was his greatest mentor & praised him on his TV show Young Rock.
I mean who are we kidding, of course they all knew. I wonder if Triple H is starting to feel the heat, who’s to say how deep this goes when all is said and done…
This is just the one that has been revealed to the public. The super rich live in another world parallel to ours. They have the money to live above the law. Look at how so many others were involved in this in one way or another who have been revealed. Just like with the Epstein stuff, there are ALOT of rich A-holes on that list who are guilty and used their money and influence to cover it up and go about things like it never happened while continuing to do horrible things in the background.
Changing the narrative to make mens' heinous crimes the fault of women is as misogynistic as what happened to Ashley. It all comes from the same well of subjugation, oppression and hate.
@@91mercedezif business wasn't doing aswell I think Paul would be removed, but then again why bring the rock back ? I think he's lurking in the background.
@@garrymclaughlan6433 I mean the rock is vince rihgt hand man yall be saying hunter is which he is not if he was vince would of made him the ceo of wwe and vince wouldn't of never demoted him cause hunter couldn't beat aew
I'm not at all surprised by this, I suspected as much. How could they not know? I would be very surprised if Nick Khan is held accountable for his actions.
There's a very good chance most of the top office staff and some of the elite level talent new.....its so sad as so many careers and legacies are going to be tainted over the coming years
I think they will clean house,after mania! I can see them changing the name and or possibly salling it to get stain off the tko name! Asking the Saudi group, now this is my opinion and mine only don’t mean anything. Great video thx for your insight and hard work as always! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Nick Khan LOOKS like a perpetrator himself. A Weinstein! Might as well sell WWE to Tony Khan! Maybe Tony can do something with WCW instead of just being wasted in the back.
If Roddy hadnt passed im pretty sure him and Hogan were on the verge of exposing Vince for what he was. McMahon wanted Pipers podcast shutdown at all costs, bet he was glad when Hot Rod died.
No wonder vince sold the company, he new this was all going to come out and new the company would be shutdown if it was still owned by his family. He sold to get his money out of the company and then when more info came out he new he had to start selling the rest of his shares. This also shows why Stephanie just one day was just gone from the company.
Of course they knew and they didnt care. All they care about is money, not people. The same mindset as vince. Throw them all in prison. I hope that happens.
A big old school Wwf fan. I have a full collection of Wwf raw and smackdown videos from 1996 to 2002 and due to vince allegations I stopped watching them. I don't think i will return to watching wwe. The whole experience has been tainted.
Hope the escort has more receipts. Vince just opened up a lot of accessible funds. I find it funnier that all of everyone is acting like this going anywhere, being civil....its only going to move money and disappear. Heh
More and more, it makes sense why WWE hasn't been great in decades. Too busy paying out legal fees, bribes, blackmails, shoddy escorts, and hitmen probably. Wrestlemania is around the corner and they don't have a decent storyline with a wrestler anyone wants to see. The closest thing they had was Rock versus Roman, ruined. Punk is out. The Usos have a weak feud currently. Nobody cares about Judgment Day. Drew is playing with himself. Cody is a joke. Seth is uninvited. Solo is a flop. LA Knight is a no. AJ Styles is forgotten. Naomi got played. Chad Gable got screwed over. Most of the current roster is seemingly okay with having a lackluster career spanning over a decade or more, and I see why now. Stand up to Vince and the old guards, and see what happens to you and what's left of your career.
Chad Gable didn't get screwed over. Gable is a NO. Hell yeah. McIntyre and LA Knight are just fine. WWE is headed in a much better direction now that the McMahon's are out. WWE had a Golden Age once where Gorilla Monsoon and the old guard set up by McMahon Sr were in charge. Things were so much better until Savage was phased out as champion in 92 and Vince took over from Gorilla on commentary.
@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Okay, I don't know what program you're watching but it ain't WWE. We're in 2024 btw, not 1992. Your counter points don't make sense. Sami Zayn hasn't been relevant in awhile now. He is just in the title picture now. No build up. No story. LA Knight has been put on the back burner with Styles with a feud that ain't really going anywhere as of late. It's not Knight's best feud so far compared to the Wyatt and Roman feuds. Chad should be going on to fight Gunther for the title at Wrestlemania, and win. Chad Gable is also more over than Sami Zayn. So I don't see how you figure Chad isn't worthy over Zayn.
Keep in mind she was fine with the treatment until the money stopped. I am going to wait for more facts before assuming Hunter or Stephanie knew about the lewd indiscretions.
The more that comes out of this lawsuit, the less I believe it. Nick Khan was way above WWE and didn’t need to be there, let alone risk his career for an 80 year old to get laid. Doesn’t make sense.
That's a dam shame because the only people who are suffering right now are those dam children. Stephanie outta know better because she's a woman herself and doesn't she and hhh have a actual daughter. And best believe if Stephanie knew hhh knew as well. What a dam shame
Crazy how no one is surprised either. I stopped watching in 2008 and come back time to time like 2011, 2018, and this year. But every time I try to get back into it it’s just the same mess. Listening to shoot interviews of the bs politics and toxic workplace environment Vince harbored really soured me on a company and i refuse to support. If top guys like cena, taker, or anyone else knew they should be getting rid of too (I think they knew) Vince and company should all rot.
Every high ranking executive in TKO was aware of Vince's misconduct prior to the formation of it. You had musical chairs with board members leaving/returning depending on where they stood on McMahon. On the other side, you had the most powerful agent in the world make sure prior to the merger that there was a morals clause in Vince's contract. That wasn't by accident. All sides knew ahead of time what was coming. No one is innocent. The PR move of The Rock suddenly swooping in to be a board member won't save the day. Heads are still gonna roll...
To corroborate = confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding). To collaborate = work jointly on an activity, especially to produce or create something. Christ. Google exist.
It wasn’t misspelled the word is “Corroborate” verb confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding). "the witness had corroborated the boy's account of the attack"
They'll be fine. They'll still continue leading infinitely more wealthy, successful and priviIeged lives compared to the average human being. Feel sorry for those who *never* had any of that.
@@Hausbrauen all the money in the world doesn't take away trauma or memories of abuse, nor does it repair trust with a loved one who's been abusing others or at least looked the other way when abuse was happening. Those kids may be feeling like everyone in their inner family circle is unsafe, untrustworthy, or worse some kind of evil predator. What if they get into an abusive situation at school, who are they gonna confide in at home?
@@pendafen7405 That's not what they said... at all. They said they'll still be doing better than the average person given all their other incredibly-helpful advantages, which is 100% accurate. You're ignoring the fact the average person will ALSO still deal with family shame, distrust, and various forms of abuse and pain throughout their lives, quite possibly far more... that's on top of not having any of the privileges and protections of being in the top class of society. Anyone who has experienced the disadvantages and dire consequences of poverty is painfully aware of this.
Manuel DOES have a daughter to work there. He mentioned that when this first came out. He said he had a daughter that worked there and he doesn't want her to be in that kind of environment and was appalled by everything.
How is she a sexual slave if she was getting paid for it? Its definitely quid pro quo though. Like Vince is definitely in the wrong but this lady is no saint. She seen a opportunity to get paid and took it
Spelled prostitute wrong lol..Thats what she was..Theres alot that wants wwe to die that will say she was tied up in a shed in Connecticut..Lmaoooooo itll all be fine
Pr0stitutes have no legal protections and tend to get assaulted, which is sadly what also happened to Janel who was manipulated into a similar situation against her wishes and plans. Just because you personally take no issue with traff!cking and exploitative labour doesn't mean everyone else is fine with it. Nordic Model now.
Vince is undoubtedly wrong morally & business wise, but the text messages kinda make me think this woman was not a slave. She seemed down with it until she began to feel dirty. No disrespect to her, but the messages she sent don't seem forced. It seems Vince discarded her like a douchebag & stopped paying her after the initial NDA so I'm not surprised she feels used & abused
Also keep in mind she couldve simply said no to those sexual acts. She continued to work for a guy that was "forcing" her to have sex. She could've said no the first time he tried and walked away.The only reason why she has a case is because Vince failed to pay all of the money for her to keep quiet. Eventhough I make jokes on Vince McMahon from time to time about it, I believe this case is a load of crap (no pun intended) because she wasn't held accountable for her decision. If Vince paid the 3 million, he would've saved himself
Weird how a grown woman if so abused stayed for so long didn't go to cops accepted money cars gifts etc soon as that ended she sues and is so abused sounds like a money grab bs
The red light on Rene's mic allows him to tan his face and whiten his teeth while he does his podcast.😅
The thing I'll say about Stephanie is - no, she's not innocent of what she did. She's one of the main reasons that Ashley is dead. She knew what was happening so I'm not absolving her of what she did. However: her father is like a cult leader and Stephanie grew up in that cult. Members will never stop defending their leader. She grew up in a really messed up environment thinking some really bizarre things are normal. You will never convince me that her dad didn't lend her out to some of those old guys. So, not innocent but a very skewed idea of what is normal.
Exactly. This messed-up way of relating to people is her baseline normal, she knows nothing else. Plus, we don't know whether she too is or was one of Vince's victims.
Oh my God.. that rumor about Steph and Savage all those years ago
Nah her and Triple H should rot. I get what you're saying but nothing should absolve or exonerate their actions.
@@pendafen7405 Nobody will ever convince me she's not one of his victims. So, while she's not innocent of what she has done, turning a blind eye, telling lies to protect him, it's not really surprising. I just hope her kids weren't left alone with grampaw.
There's more than one kind of grooming. I can only imagine how skewed her perspective must be. But that doesn't absolve her of personal responsibility.
Rene called it.
Vince has tainted not only his name but his father and grandfather's as well, He has grandchildren in college who will have to constantly hear about this
Its what happens when you have psychopath tendencies.
Vince McRape
I get your point but anyone in there right mind is not going to say that Vince’s actions tarnished his father and grandfathers name. Considering they obviously had nothing to do with these allegations.
@@brentwebster6341 going forward this is gonna be what people think of when they hear the Mcmahon name, It's not about them but what their name turned into under Vince
Vince Sr. should've left Junior in that trailer park in Havelock where he grew up.
HHH, Taker, Cena were all top guys and heavily involved with management. Im not saying they did anything but are you really gonna make me believe they did not know what was going on behind the scenes?
If thats the case everybody in that company knew
@@91mercedezcope harder.
@@91mercedezhow is that … you saying a low card talent example like blue meanie had a relationship with Vince that was the same as a cena or taker hell no that’s like saying the caterer for a Miramax movie knew all along the Weinstein was banging anything with a hole
@@HighWoodythat word doesn't mean what you think it means
They all did horrible stuff for Vince and will try to cover up whatever horrors they committed. just because you like watching them wrestle doesn’t mean that they are good people
To be honest, my love for wrestling has soured. I still like podcasts about wrestling though so I'll still listen to this. Dark Side of the Ring is gonna have no shortage of material.
Don't let Vince defecating on a women's head spoil your love of wrestling
I agree to an extent, however, countless large companies and powerful mega-corporations still in operation today have FAR worse skeletons in their closet than this. It's terrible to think about, but it's not going to stop me from enjoying certain things, or stop me from looking upon my positive memories fondly. I think what's more important is not supporting such companies with your money ever again if you can help it... I've already stopped supporting WWE many years ago.
Pro wrestling in the usa in general hasnt been good in yrs.
Try watching wrestling with Shadows when you’re 7-8 years old.
@@PRiMETiMEFELiNE I'll try when I turn 7
There's no way that all of these people knew and HHH didn't know. As far as Ari's claim that he'll get rid of anyone who knew, just remember Dana White didn't get fired for hitting his wife on camera in public. He'll likely get rid of HHH, but not Nick Khan. For years fans argued if the nWo or DX would run wrestling. Who knew it would end up being the Nation of Domination as the ones standing.
His wife slapped him first and then he slapped her she was drunk also dana was also indirectly promoting his slap sport or something. Dana and ari are very close. Somewhere I heard they both secretly might be working together to end wwe and eventually wcw it. They want ufc to be the ruling promotion financially by using wwe's legacy idk how much of this is true. Dana and vince did not have a good relationship in the past.
Your comparing apples to oranges. Dana White slapped his wife after being slapped. He didn't rape or poop on her head that I know of.
By any means necessary ✊👊👊
We are the Nation of Domination!
Seems like the NWO and DX plans got foiled.. The Nation was just waiting in the wings for the perfect time..
Damn... best road to Wrestlemania ever Karma is a bitch
The word was CORROBORATE :
To confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding).
"the witness had corroborated the boy's account of the attack"
Never thought English would have to be explained to an Englishman lol
@@chadog900 I can confirm after living in both the US and England, it's surprisingly common. You'd be shocked how many English/Brits I've met who speak their own mother tongue worse than the average American.
Yeah I lold
Triple H probably knew too
Look for something to come out on him too. I go back to the way he answered that question at the Media Scrum.
@@rumarspencer7302 I expect Cena to be named in some way too only in the federal care since he refuses to do anything but talk about loving his friend and being there for him and just ignores the victims. I wont be surprised if stuff comes out about the kliq in this either since Nash literally blamed Janell Grant and brought those NDA shirts back out.
@@ItsMeMattCarter Nash and Cena still respect and like the McMahons, problem is they don't want to believe it, hard for them to fathom and they don't want to abandoned that respect they have for Vince, but more will continue to come out about Vince and it's gone continue to get worse for him.
Of course. Especially how close he was to Vince.
And the plot thickens…
Unfortunately even the clean ones have got a bit of dirt on them..
They ain’t clean. They are just as dirty
Wwe needs to clean house and start new, get rid of everyone that knew or was involved @@bluntamainia444
If they knew what Vince did over the years, they’re not clean
And did any top tier wrestlers know?
Definitely knew just kept quiet to keep their spot/place.
Triple H knew as well. It’s just funny seeing fans try to protect him when he’s clearly part of the problem too. Where would he be if he didn’t marry into that bizarre family?
Fans are picking and choosing who they want gone and who they want staying with the company. When it was just Vince, no one cared but the second Stephanie and Triple H could be implicated, the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing was being thrown around everywhere. The McMahons are the biggest pieces of shit but, because Triple H, who is a McMahon threw and threw, is their favorite, they want to look the other way. Same people that advocate for Benoit to being in the Hall of Fame as well I suppose.
Yall making it more about Triple h then the victim who also never mention Triple h
Where is the proof triple h is involved? There's none.
@@Neethan3247 oh my lord where is the proof! There's none triple h knew!
No evidence to suggest he knew anything. Pretty weird how so many people are rooting for him to be let go.
Of course they fu%king knew! Lol...next big story.....the sky is BLUE!!!
Hunter thought by marrying Stephanie he had the inside track to eventually owning WWE.
where's Max Landis when you need him
Vince said *"We will see about that"*
I'm glad you guys keep talking about this rather than letting it die. You could have given the source for those details though🤷🏽♂️ seeing as only a few journalists are actually working to dig this info up
I agree with you. Although a second-best solution -- everything I've been curious to find out here, I could still 100% confirm by looking it up and finding sources myself. So at least there's that.
@Hausbrauen yeah true there's that, but credit should go to those journalists who won't let this die or be buried which I'm afraid most of the wrestling world, including the fanbase, wouldn't mind happening
@@MrWarbley I agree. That's probably the only thing I really wished they did more of.
@Hausbrauen nice to have a conversation with someone about this subject without them being bbbUt iT wAs cOnsENsUAL or fOcUs oN thE pOsItIvE
Chances of talking to Maria? Its been reported that Ashley told her about what happened on Kuwait
I’m so sick and tired of the Internet wrestling fans trying to cover for Triple H and Stephanie. They are monsters too. Fire everyone and reboot everything
Lmaoooooo..
As a woman myself, I'm happy to Stephanie to go down, so long as it's confirmed she wasn't victimised by Vince as well, which we don't know for sure yet. What Stephanie did to Chyna as well as Ashley is pretty damning, but let's wait and find out whether she was gr00med or not.
@@pendafen7405 She was definitely gr00med as well but it doesn’t excuse the things she did and deliberately neglected on her watch.
You're an actual fool. You don't care about victims.
Do you think that the divorce rumors between HHH and Steph would have been due to the Vince situation?
It's most likely due to the fact that Ari has a beautiful daughter with a big nose and she's been giving Trips the eye...
How is WWE as a company still in existence? Every fiber of that company is tainted.
It will continue
Too much money is being made that’s why. 2007 was the only time wwe could’ve folded.
Because people still consume product
Because ppl have zero morals or integrity. And are lacking in brain cells. I stopped watching when I heard about all the creepy stuff in the late 90's. Who would shop at a business where the owner has covered up murders such as Snuka, rape involving Lawler, child abuse involving ring boys, sexual abuse involving Patterson, Hayes etc and Parents actually let their children go near these wrestlers and environment?. You should need a licence to have kids you really should lol
Because the company is bigger than any individual
I think that at some point, we'll find out that Stephanie was a victim of her father. That and she is separated from Triple H.
Yes, there's no doubt in my mind that Steph was at least gr00med. The red flags over the years we've seen her on TV (everything her father made her do) are too many to count. And that's just what we got to see and know about, there's sadly probably so much more behind the curtain. As for her marriage, this may be a reach, but I've always suspected Vince pressured and manipulated her to marry Paul, because HHH is the kind of man who fits Vince's ideal as a son (more than Shane).
@@pendafen7405That smackdown promo about being 17 and doing things for people for her father hits way differently now. Especially when you consider both that Savages ex wife Gorgeous George said he was drunk and admitted it happened (he and steph were a consensual thing and that's why he left and never came back) and this lawsuit and what Ashley and others are saying happened. I think she was groomed, did things and then covered other stuff up. Its a horrible situation all around.
@@ItsMeMattCarterMinors can’t consent
@@strnglhld17, in some places I think they can. Or could them.
I did not know about that secret porn business revolving around Ari Emanuel. Man... seriously NOBODY is clean in this, are they?
Also, kudos to you guys for putting in the real work here... GREAT podcast!
Stephanie knew/knows about allllllll of her father's indiscretions.
Remember, her Dad once wanted her to say that Shane was the father of HER kid. No to that idea? Okay, well, Vince can be the father then.
Stephanie knew. Anyone in their circle knew/knows what goes on.
When I was still in school my father worked abroad for years, in Europe and the Middle East. To this day I don't know thing one about what he got up to during that time besides his job, and I don't want to know either. For all I know he could have fathered other children with a mistress and set them up, or have partied with escorts every weekend.
Yep. The one fact alone that Stephanie got tf out of the company, it was right before this slew of problems started to go public, AND she has been in seclusion from the public eye ever since... made it painfully obvious she knew about it all, and at the very least, allowed many terrible things to happen.
@@pendafen7405Your dad must not be a great guy if you don’t immediately react “impossible, he’d never do that” lol
@pendafen7405
Your Dad was getting paid big money to work over there to provide so he could make sure you were good. So, if he was Ric Flair'n it up like that, you're right for not wanting to know. But I'm gonna tell ya he was probably a wild boy (but only enough to not get caught up, lol)
@Hausbrauen
And Shane knew about some shit too. Never called anything out publicly but I'm sure if he didn't know directly, he heard about it. Perfect example is probably that Wrestlemania X-7 build up. Getting Trish half naked, slobbing her down in front of Linda, banging on Sable (which is also weird because she sued the E and came back)
Also, Lesnar, right. That Vince/Sable storyline ummmm, wasn't Vince dealing with Lesnar while all that was going on? If so, holy shit.
I hope Ari is a man of his word!
Ari is widely considered to be a snake in the business world (not to mention his own involvement in various scandals) so that's unlikely. But it'd still be nice to see here.
Imagine if that Nurse guy testifies for Janel Grant since he was terminated...
TKO needs to get rid of Khan, HHH, Shawn Michaels, Michael Hayes, Bruce Pritchard, Bloom and any others from Vince’s regime. His ego and arrogance was his own undoing!!!!!!
lmao. Why Michaels? He's down in NXT lol.
@@Rednecknerd_rob9634 Why not…he’s tight with Vince. He knows about it and is a certified liar!!!! Besides, he is part of the old man’s regime.
@@SteveSport_ So simply based on pure conjecture and nothing else? Also, what proof do ya have that Shawn knew anything about the Janel Grant situation? Where in her lawsuit is he even remotely alluded to? Or are ya just talkin' out you a$$ and just hoping that not just Shawn, but all the others ya mentioned are removed based on nothing but guilt by association at best and your own conjecture without any evidence at worse?
@@Rednecknerd_rob9634 It’s not talking out my ass when people have a history of disrespecting others, ruining their careers and lives. History repeats itself. Michael’s is no angel , in case you forgot about his past deeds!!! People are judged by their actions. But then again, what will be will be.
What next are you going to call Vince McMahon a war criminal genocide murderer are you stupid
Another angle to look at it. Did the Rock suck Pat Patterson for his push back in the day???
100% Brickhouse Brown spoke about it. Kevin Nash kind of hinted of it years ago when he was more blunt & wasn’t so Hollywood. Dwayne Johnson said Pat Patterson was his greatest mentor & praised him on his TV show Young Rock.
Oh man : (
Right before Mania. Hahaha
*cackles in TNA*
Well, well, well,....how the turn tables have.
DEVON!! GET THE TABLES!!!
I mean who are we kidding, of course they all knew. I wonder if Triple H is starting to feel the heat, who’s to say how deep this goes when all is said and done…
A can of worms has opened up ⬆️
And it smells shtty
This is probably one of the most grotesque webs of crime in entertainment history.. damn
This is just the one that has been revealed to the public. The super rich live in another world parallel to ours. They have the money to live above the law. Look at how so many others were involved in this in one way or another who have been revealed. Just like with the Epstein stuff, there are ALOT of rich A-holes on that list who are guilty and used their money and influence to cover it up and go about things like it never happened while continuing to do horrible things in the background.
Ohhh this is bad, but Hollywood is WAY worse
I knew Linda and Stephanie etc would probably come up
Changing the narrative to make mens' heinous crimes the fault of women is as misogynistic as what happened to Ashley. It all comes from the same well of subjugation, oppression and hate.
They all need to go.
Ari Emanuel does have the power to oust Nick Khan and the other employees, if they knew about what Vince was doing.
Ari has a lot of power
@chm9935 Indeed he does.
Goldust is getting in the HOF.
Swollen members should be Rene entrance next match fuel injected Song
If Nick and Steph get taken out does HHH run the show or do they slot Shane back in ?
Supposedly, there are some HHH accusations floating out there.
@@michaelweston9772 what the whole katylin thing ok and it the same when katylin was married seth rollins from rumors was sending her naked pitchers
I don't think hunter is getting fired
@@91mercedezif business wasn't doing aswell I think Paul would be removed, but then again why bring the rock back ? I think he's lurking in the background.
@@garrymclaughlan6433 I mean the rock is vince rihgt hand man yall be saying hunter is which he is not if he was vince would of made him the ceo of wwe and vince wouldn't of never demoted him cause hunter couldn't beat aew
This channel has officially became The View.
If Steph knew then you know damn well Triple H knew as well
I mean what did they know im mean everybody knew vince slept around theres one thing to know that its another to know who was getting SA
How about the model Rick Martel ever getting a chance at hof?
Has Shane been linked at all, to participation, or knowingly covering up? If not, I hope he ends up taking over the company.
Why would any mcmahon take over the company now.
He can't take over the company because WWE is owned by another company. Plus Shane sucks as a on screen character.
Damn u guys are right the rock is picking the hall of fame is grandmother's most likely the next one going in
How could they not know? Vince is dropping deuces on women in his office. You’d figure they would smell it.
Everybody’s favorite subject!
I'm not at all surprised by this, I suspected as much. How could they not know? I would be very surprised if Nick Khan is held accountable for his actions.
Waiting til Alex Riley tells his story
If he ever does. Now would be the time.
Corroborate!!
There's a very good chance most of the top office staff and some of the elite level talent new.....its so sad as so many careers and legacies are going to be tainted over the coming years
Good Morning Fam ✊
This whole thing is a circus.
Clean office might happen after WrestleMania
Yup that's for sure.
Ari Emmanuel is the inspiration for the Ari character on Entourage. That is a legit fact, look it up.
I need the free discord link????
Just let Rene take over the company, problem solved! Where’s my 10%?
I think they will clean house,after mania! I can see them changing the name and or possibly salling it to get stain off the tko name! Asking the Saudi group, now this is my opinion and mine only don’t mean anything. Great video thx for your insight and hard work as always! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
If you have seen the show Entourage, that's ari Emanuel
WWE is becoming a House of Cards. I can see it all crashing down with the right names.
WOW!!!!!😮
Is it just me or does it feel like Dwayne Johnson is being set up to be in the same role Jerry Jarrett had during the steroid trial?
LOL I literally was just speculating on that same thought today. At this point, I would lean towards a hard yes
Nick Khan LOOKS like a perpetrator himself. A Weinstein! Might as well sell WWE to Tony Khan! Maybe Tony can do something with WCW instead of just being wasted in the back.
If Roddy hadnt passed im pretty sure him and Hogan were on the verge of exposing Vince for what he was. McMahon wanted Pipers podcast shutdown at all costs, bet he was glad when Hot Rod died.
Nick khan needs to be fired asap. And Stephanie bye, bye, bye.
No wonder vince sold the company, he new this was all going to come out and new the company would be shutdown if it was still owned by his family. He sold to get his money out of the company and then when more info came out he new he had to start selling the rest of his shares.
This also shows why Stephanie just one day was just gone from the company.
Of course they knew and they didnt care. All they care about is money, not people. The same mindset as vince. Throw them all in prison. I hope that happens.
A big old school Wwf fan. I have a full collection of Wwf raw and smackdown videos from 1996 to 2002 and due to vince allegations I stopped watching them. I don't think i will return to watching wwe. The whole experience has been tainted.
Go watch WCW Nitro from 96 to 99. It was so much better TV anyway.
I also used to subscribe to wwe network but cancelled it. So can't watch wcw as well. Frankly I don't care much for wrestling now.
Hope the escort has more receipts. Vince just opened up a lot of accessible funds.
I find it funnier that all of everyone is acting like this going anywhere, being civil....its only going to move money and disappear. Heh
As long as HHH isnt involved in any bad way im good.
So basically Nick Kahn is Ghislaine Maxwell in this situation??? He and others are accessories??
More and more, it makes sense why WWE hasn't been great in decades. Too busy paying out legal fees, bribes, blackmails, shoddy escorts, and hitmen probably. Wrestlemania is around the corner and they don't have a decent storyline with a wrestler anyone wants to see. The closest thing they had was Rock versus Roman, ruined. Punk is out. The Usos have a weak feud currently. Nobody cares about Judgment Day. Drew is playing with himself. Cody is a joke. Seth is uninvited. Solo is a flop. LA Knight is a no. AJ Styles is forgotten. Naomi got played. Chad Gable got screwed over. Most of the current roster is seemingly okay with having a lackluster career spanning over a decade or more, and I see why now. Stand up to Vince and the old guards, and see what happens to you and what's left of your career.
Chad Gable didn't get screwed over. Gable is a NO. Hell yeah. McIntyre and LA Knight are just fine. WWE is headed in a much better direction now that the McMahon's are out. WWE had a Golden Age once where Gorilla Monsoon and the old guard set up by McMahon Sr were in charge. Things were so much better until Savage was phased out as champion in 92 and Vince took over from Gorilla on commentary.
@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 Okay, I don't know what program you're watching but it ain't WWE. We're in 2024 btw, not 1992. Your counter points don't make sense. Sami Zayn hasn't been relevant in awhile now. He is just in the title picture now. No build up. No story. LA Knight has been put on the back burner with Styles with a feud that ain't really going anywhere as of late. It's not Knight's best feud so far compared to the Wyatt and Roman feuds. Chad should be going on to fight Gunther for the title at Wrestlemania, and win. Chad Gable is also more over than Sami Zayn. So I don't see how you figure Chad isn't worthy over Zayn.
It’s corroborate. Not collaborate.
Is Janel Grant's atty going to do a big info dump the day before Wrestlemania?
Together forever- forever together -cringe
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Boycott wwe and WrestleMania
Proudly have been doing just that for many years... they'll get less than a view from me on their UA-cam channel.
Trafficking ring level almost👀
Keep in mind she was fine with the treatment until the money stopped.
I am going to wait for more facts before assuming Hunter or Stephanie knew about the lewd indiscretions.
The more that comes out of this lawsuit, the less I believe it. Nick Khan was way above WWE and didn’t need to be there, let alone risk his career for an 80 year old to get laid. Doesn’t make sense.
Its funny how edrones act like experts. I should do nothing for 12 hours out of the day and with a snap of a finger ill be a lawyer
That's a dam shame because the only people who are suffering right now are those dam children. Stephanie outta know better because she's a woman herself and doesn't she and hhh have a actual daughter. And best believe if Stephanie knew hhh knew as well. What a dam shame
You all Pump up Ali i get it legend but LUGER WTF !!!!! 1000xs better of a crowd reaction compared to a dead guy.........
So they all voted for Vince to not return, hmm I wonder why? did you think they know something?
Crazy how no one is surprised either. I stopped watching in 2008 and come back time to time like 2011, 2018, and this year. But every time I try to get back into it it’s just the same mess.
Listening to shoot interviews of the bs politics and toxic workplace environment Vince harbored really soured me on a company and i refuse to support. If top guys like cena, taker, or anyone else knew they should be getting rid of too (I think they knew) Vince and company should all rot.
Every high ranking executive in TKO was aware of Vince's misconduct prior to the formation of it. You had musical chairs with board members leaving/returning depending on where they stood on McMahon. On the other side, you had the most powerful agent in the world make sure prior to the merger that there was a morals clause in Vince's contract. That wasn't by accident. All sides knew ahead of time what was coming. No one is innocent. The PR move of The Rock suddenly swooping in to be a board member won't save the day. Heads are still gonna roll...
She was a sugar baby nothing more
To corroborate = confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding).
To collaborate = work jointly on an activity, especially to produce or create something.
Christ. Google exist.
I cannot be the only who knew women being pushed was for when this shit came out
It wasn’t misspelled the word is “Corroborate”
verb
confirm or give support to (a statement, theory, or finding).
"the witness had corroborated the boy's account of the attack"
Dont forget about levesque. Get rid of all the mcmahons and paul
James gets bigger with every video
that poor woman!!! no one cares about how she was used?? i hope she survives!
I feel sorry for the grand children
Right, they didn't ask to be born into this evil carny mess, they're just trying to quietly go to school and be normal.
They'll be fine. They'll still continue leading infinitely more wealthy, successful and priviIeged lives compared to the average human being. Feel sorry for those who *never* had any of that.
@@Hausbrauen 🤡
@@Hausbrauen all the money in the world doesn't take away trauma or memories of abuse, nor does it repair trust with a loved one who's been abusing others or at least looked the other way when abuse was happening. Those kids may be feeling like everyone in their inner family circle is unsafe, untrustworthy, or worse some kind of evil predator. What if they get into an abusive situation at school, who are they gonna confide in at home?
@@pendafen7405 That's not what they said... at all. They said they'll still be doing better than the average person given all their other incredibly-helpful advantages, which is 100% accurate. You're ignoring the fact the average person will ALSO still deal with family shame, distrust, and various forms of abuse and pain throughout their lives, quite possibly far more... that's on top of not having any of the privileges and protections of being in the top class of society. Anyone who has experienced the disadvantages and dire consequences of poverty is painfully aware of this.
😂 (Allegedly)
Isn't it interesting that Ashley said that Stephanie was involved in her situation too and was brought in to talk to her?
Manuel DOES have a daughter to work there. He mentioned that when this first came out. He said he had a daughter that worked there and he doesn't want her to be in that kind of environment and was appalled by everything.
How is she a sexual slave if she was getting paid for it? Its definitely quid pro quo though. Like Vince is definitely in the wrong but this lady is no saint. She seen a opportunity to get paid and took it
Spelled prostitute wrong lol..Thats what she was..Theres alot that wants wwe to die that will say she was tied up in a shed in Connecticut..Lmaoooooo itll all be fine
Pr0stitutes have no legal protections and tend to get assaulted, which is sadly what also happened to Janel who was manipulated into a similar situation against her wishes and plans. Just because you personally take no issue with traff!cking and exploitative labour doesn't mean everyone else is fine with it. Nordic Model now.
Vince is undoubtedly wrong morally & business wise, but the text messages kinda make me think this woman was not a slave. She seemed down with it until she began to feel dirty. No disrespect to her, but the messages she sent don't seem forced. It seems Vince discarded her like a douchebag & stopped paying her after the initial NDA so I'm not surprised she feels used & abused
Exactly!! She knew what she was she was doing. It's crazy how the picture being painted. I guess she has no fault in anything now
Also keep in mind she couldve simply said no to those sexual acts. She continued to work for a guy that was "forcing" her to have sex. She could've said no the first time he tried and walked away.The only reason why she has a case is because Vince failed to pay all of the money for her to keep quiet. Eventhough I make jokes on Vince McMahon from time to time about it, I believe this case is a load of crap (no pun intended) because she wasn't held accountable for her decision. If Vince paid the 3 million, he would've saved himself
Coercive control. Folk like you just sound woefully ignorant about abuse.
It's simple, everyone involved is scum.
Adolf McMahon
Vince will end up buying the company back making a couple billion $'s in the process 😂
Sound stupid af 😂 vince will end up in jail 😂
@GgKerry You call me stupid, then say Vince will end up in jail? Billionaires don't go to jail, especially when it's a civil trial😆
@@LburgVAGuy lol all dat don’t matter his name hot af gon hang it up pimp b4 another one come 😂
Stop putting porn ads on your videos renee
Weird how a grown woman if so abused stayed for so long didn't go to cops accepted money cars gifts etc soon as that ended she sues and is so abused sounds like a money grab bs