Excalibur: "OH MY GOD HIS HEAD IS GONE! HIS HEAD IS GONE! NOW THE COVER, ONE, TWO, NOOOOOOOOOOO! JUST KICKS OUT! REFEREE AUBREY EDWARDS IN GREAT POSITION FOR THAT!"
Am not 100% but i think Andrade broke his eye socket the week before and they used it for a angle Danielson can be unsafe to himself as well @@gregamania1327
Wrestlers are the biggest marks in the world. Wrestlers used to fake getting hurt and fans thought it was real, now the wrestlers hurt themselves and the fans think it's fake.
I was at the Smackdown taping in Uniondale, Ny, when D-Lo Brown paralyzed Droz. It was horrific. D-Lo lost his mind, I felt so bad for the guy. The show was stopped for at least an hour to get Droz stabilized and out of the ring. The arena was virtually silent. Trust me, no one wants to see that shit live. These wrestlers think they're putting on a great show, but, in reality, it's actually pretty selfish, just like Al Snow said.
I remember Tough Enough being on TV over twenty years ago. Al was so caring, so passionate teaching these kids about working safely. It made you realize how difficult professional wrestling could be.
Even then my biggest memory of Tough Enough was Bob Holly beating the hell out of one of the contestants. MTV put a commercial break in the middle of it probably for a "call your friends and tell them to watch this" break. During that break even BACK THEN I was like "How TF they really gonna say develop trust in protecting people and then turn around and allow this shit?"
@@Apocalypse3434Matt C.( don’t want to disrespect his last name by misspelling as he’s since passed RIP) After rewatching that episode, I felt slightly less bad about Brock dropping him on his neck.
It dawned on me the business was over when Britt baker did a cage match and after it in the back she said "I hope Dave liked it , and someone off camera said 5 stars" and the happiness in her face was like she just impressed the most important person on earth
If the rumor of bonuses is true then I can see why she would be excited. You start caring more about that guy's opinion once Tony is padding the paycheck when it's good.
@@LightChaser2099 AEW is doing something wrong and their "hardcore" fans are the cause of this. Okada is announced in a title match, Copeland and Christian are advertised in a "i quit" match and yet they have 1000 viewers less than the week before? Maybe tone down the spotfest
The amount of arrogance from fans who say AL Snow doesn't know what he's talking about is so ridiculous. Spot wrestling isn't wrestling isn't wrestling. When I worked the indies I was amongst the bigger guys. 6'4" 325. I worked with plenty of spot guys, and I always told them, "Nah you're going to actually work." For those dudes who couldn't actually work, they got pissed and then to up show them I wouldn't pull off a back-lit and they had nothing but work. Spot wrestling sucks and aew is such trash it gives a platform to it.
you just told the other dude you were gonna wrestle "Nah you're going to actually work.", I've never heard such bullshit in all my life bet you never even been in the ring
Me and my dad are huge wrestling fans and I asked him last week was he still watching AEW and he looked at me amd and said "no son, someone will end up dying with those types of moves and I don't want to witness it" This a 74 year old war vet who did three tours in Vietnam.
@@ravenwda007And he and the other wrestlers protected him as best as they could. If it was AEW he would've been powerbombed off of the top of a pod through a table.
@@MC-zt3wbgood, proves the point. Randy can walk around and point at his head and I'd watch that for an hour over Darby nearly entering traction yet again.
The pay-per-views usually pull in around 150,000 purchases, while TV viewership sits at approximately 800,000, so it's not just catering to one individual. Al makes valid points in the video, but his tone seems noticeably bitter.
Al Snow is not bitter. He says this because he cares about both people’s lives and the business. And he feels he has to be blunt to get his message to sink in. And sometimes you do have to be blunt because people don’t listen.
He has nothing to be bitter about. Even as a mid card guy, being famous from the biggest era in wrestling history, guarantees he will be remembered long after the "stars" in AEW. Most of these folks couldn't draw flies to a truckload of horseshit. WWE can create stars. AEW can't.
You mean hardcore Legends who lived in the Attitude Era who probably did things like this all the time. It's like a professional football player trying to tell them you're doing this dangerous when, well, it's a dangerous sport. What was the difference between mankind and some of the crisis stuff he did? I think it's pretty bad when we have hardcore Legends for getting what wrestling is it's dangerous.
@samsunguser6608 Then I find it even more weird that he doesn't acknowledge the Attitude Era. What's the difference between this crazy stuff versus Mankind Hell in the Cell vs Undertaker. I find it also kind of weird that he doesn't acknowledge the fact that wrestling is dangerous.
@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 At least these moves in the 90's were far and between, a couple PPV's apart. They can have literally weeks rehearsing a dangerous spot. Al is calling this out because the AEW guys do this weekly, with hardly any buildup or storylines. Less time to practice means botches are more likely.
@@vanthadoun1exactly. Can't believe anyone in aew hasn't been seriously injured or ended up in a wheelchair. Just look when ospreay put the tiger driver 91 on kenny omega
LOL Worry about the other promotion. People die in that company and they just scrub them from existence, because the facts may come out. LOL Whether its steroids, poorly choreographed plunges to your death, or the owner sexually molesting the talent along with his wrestlers. LOL AEW is just fine
@@coke8045 smark. Lol. Good one. But here's the thing. I don't have to constantly defend the stuff I like online. Whereas someone like you has to play defense for a company that a huge majority of wrestling fans think is absolute crap. You're not content with just liking something, because you know deep down in your heart, it's bad storytelling by subpar wrestlers and you aren't confident enough with yourself or the product. Hence, the 24 hour defensive line against anyone who points out the obvious about your lame, sad pathetic company. Meanwhile, I can just go back and watch ALL the great wrestling that still holds up to this day that people still remember, look at fondly and enjoy.
The Darby Allin spot from Revolution literally blew my mind. I get it, he's a spot machine and a bump machine - especially for the Sting matches they did - but launching himself off the top of that ladder unto chairs and a plate of glass (even if it's sugar glass or gimmick glass, it's still glass, just look at his back after!) is insane. He could have easily been paralyzed doing that, full stop. Or worse like Al Snow said.
Its some kind of miracle that Darby Allin is still alive. I like the guy and think if he bulked up he has the charisma to be great… But at this rate dude is going to be in a wheelchair by age 40.
@@TalibannedProduction Yeah, I got into an argument on the Ups and Downs video for Revolution and that spot specifically. Like, I get that people like Darby and want to defend him - but come on. Maybe because I've been a wrestling fan for 45 years now that I can separate this stuff from just being a casual fan etc. but workers don't need to kill themselves like Jeff Hardy used to do also. There's a reason wrestlers die at such young ages or wind up in a wheelchair before the age of 50.
And D-Lo and Droz we’re both trained and both knew what they were doing but it’s something that happened. Just a freak accident but doing a move that is normally completely safe if done correctly. But when you have these guys that are trying to please uncle Dave and do this stupid shit…, Al Snow is right . One of the biggest problems is at some point guys stopped getting trained by experience, pro wrestlers, and they just started training themselves to do video game moves and high spots and somewhere along the line. That’s what determined if you were a good worker or not. I don’t think most of today’s wrestler really know what being a good worker is.
Agree. TNA have the non floppy guys who are believable main eventers and could build a classic style main event scene but are still being a super indie with no stories, long matches and small flippy guys
When you had one or two floppy guy matches per show it's great but when all matches are the same style they have to be extreme to stand out. Its the equivalent of the old entirely hardcore match feds like CZW
Yeah I’m not crazy about the spike but I agree. I always subscribed to big men do power moves as their finisher (within reason) and smaller guys use their body as the finisher (splash, phenomenal forearm, 619,etc) for believe ability. Keep in mind I’m a huge solo fan. Just wish he had a better finisher. Always loved the rikishi driver. Simple yet devastating looking. Hardly any chance of messing it up because u always have a good idea to position the head.
The roster wouldn't listen to him anyway. They didn't/don't even listen to advice from William Regal, JR, and most of the legit legends in the company.
What Punk said at that infamous scrum still rings true, "Your on a team with the best players and you say, I don't need to take advice from you, go fuck yourself, fucking grow up"@@patshowiedoit5340
Well I have watched a few of their shows and I do get scared at times because I have seen so many dangerous and stupid stunts do to corner cutting and carelessness.
I was watching WWE Smackdown and Ridge Holland basically ended Big E's career with a botched move. Although the TV camera cut away even I knew Big E wasn't supposed to land on his head.
Trying to get "the 5 star match" is exactly why they do all this shlt. They don't know how to build characters, so they try to gain acceptance by doing crazy spots.
A 5 star match used to be the pinnacle, with every aspect being perfect from psychology, selling, crowd reaction, etc. now it’s who does the riskiest moves. Theirs no quality standards for making a move look dangerous. They can stumble/botch/hurt their opponent, with no impact to their rating.
Ironically, he is largely known for his time spent in one of the most dangerous drug-induced botch-fest promotions of all time (where miraculously no one died, and I suspect if Heyman had not jewed everyone out of money and the promotion had been around longer, someone would have).
Can you come up with an original criticism that isn't a quote from Jim Cornette? I swear you guys are incapable of thinking for yourselves but keep blindly following a bitter, unemployed nerd that has contributed literally nothing of value to the business
The denial from AEW die hards saying "you can get injured anyway" or "it's not ballet" is dumb lol You can die in a car accident driving safe. You can also get into one driving recklessly. Do both carry the same risk? No. In the AEW fan argument, driving safe is just as dangerous as driving recklessly, so why not drive recklessly?
And besides the safety aspect which is paramount just in a human decency way of not treating people as expendable commodities there is also the feature in professional wrestling that "faking" it actually takes more skill. It's easy to be unsafe and be brutal in the ring. It's a craft and artform to express carnage and mayhem in the ring through story and illusion but being ultimately safe about it. That is where the real skill lies.
Well, when they end up with ECW and WWE's track record, then something can be said. Funny they go to town on a bad bump. Not like Ospreay fell 50 feet onto the ring post.
@@GetRDone1969And yet they drew in more money than "first name/last name/black trunks/black boots/crew cut/tatoos" assholes overwhelming wrestling rosters nowadays.
@@GetRDone1969i think if you are a grown adult watching people pretend to fight without any characters or storylines, and rating the choreography of it... the 5 year old gets the point, and you don't. We've all accepted it's a work and watch anyways. Without the gimmicks or characters, we are just watching guys do a fake sport. Which is why the viewership doesn't increase without story. An action movie with just great choreographed fight scenes and zero character arcs or good acting between the fights would not draw money either, because you'd be watching grown adults play fight for no reason. So essentially, you're just a loser and the 5 year old you're referencing gets it.
I’m sorry but all these AEW fans complain about WWE being “soft”, but they fail to remember that when WWE was hardcore back in the day, CTE wasn’t something that people knew or wanted to acknowledge. Just look at how they wrestled then, on a weekly basis just like AEW is now, and how they had little to no time to recover from it. And not just head injuries but other bodily injuries as well. Anyone watched the doc on Chris B on Dark Side of the Ring? If AEW fans really cared about the business like say they do, they should be worried about these wrestlers and their well being, instead of going into a piss match with a WWE fan over “ratings” 🙄
Match was edited for TV. My understanding is there was a long break after Jeff got hurt, before they decided to proceed. The doc examined Jeff and they decided to go to the finish, instead of calling the match. The doc and the ref should be suspended, not Sammy. Also, why are they suspending him two weeks later? Seems like Sammy is being made the scapegoat here.
@@PygmySurfer Maybe he can join the House of Torture with Jack Perry if he is. :P It is an odd decision to suspend him if the doctor decided it was safe to do the take-home spot admittedly.
Remember that guy that Rey Mysterio was wrestling that went to take the 619 and the rope whiplashed and broke his neck/killed him?? I'm not a wrestler but even I know just how dangerous even the most "simple" things are, so when they do things that actually look extremely dangerous?? Thats terrifying. Beyond terrifying. Al is right.
The fact that they do spots like this then kick out only later to be pinned by something so tame in comparison makes me wonder if any of the agents have any common sense at all
If you watch the first video carefully, Not only his "HEAD COULD BE BUSTED OPEN", But even more likely: "HIS NECK, OR BACK MAYBE BOTH COULD HAVE BEEN BROKEN!"
Agree, Meltzer and his ilk will talk sadly like they were always against it. But they haven't said a word about the risks at all. They give these kinds of idiots awards and high ratings and condone this sort of dangerous stunt. Instead of taking part in worked press conferences, they should be scrutinising safety policy and asking why wrestlers are taking this kind of risk.
The people in the seats and in front of the tv's are equally to blame. You've cheered and pushed for this. Every moron who taped themselves hitting themselves with household items and jumping off their houses.
I noticed a change in AEW over the last few months, it's like Tony has pulled the storylines and decided to push the wrestlers into more extreme moves and showboating. I would prefer the storylines to be added back in and give me the entertainment value I enjoyed
4:15 I remember someone seriously getting hurt by a buckle bomb and all this discussion about how it should be removed from the move sets entirely. Clearly this guy disagreed.
They weren't Snow did, and he's definitely in a position to say so. Watching those videos solidifies my decision that AEW doesn't gaf about their wrestlers safety
Back in the day, people like this would've never made it into wrestling. They'd have been beaten down in training, and if they'd have made it through that, would be beaten out of the business on day one. You can demonize it as "gatekeeping" all you want, but ultimately it was done to stop people like this from killing someone, or themselves.
@@foreverunsaved6661 I was Indy backyard wrestler and our promoter outright said if you don't understand the fundamentals, walk out now She said I won't have anyone injury themselves or anyone else over some hardcore spot bullshit Since I was a drama class kid and did promos in my mirror for years I had a slight advantage but still had to learn the fundamentals and yeah you get your ass worked
I totally agree. I've watched AEW on a weekly basis since they've started up, & I've seen more injuries in the past few years than I ever did watching as a youngster.
Terry Funk said it best less is more . What are you going to do during your next match tables then it’s flaming tables then exploding rings . When does it end ?
LOLOL As the WWE fans still chant ECW. Save it. The amount of deaths and accidents in those companies. Benoit had the brain of an 85 year old man and more than half the brain tissue was dead. Owen, 50 feet to his death. Droz, New Jack, Edge career ending injury, I could go on and on. So save the bullshit about AEW fans that enjoy a great wrestling match. At least they dont fall to their deaths because of faulty equiptment and have a locker room full of roids and drugs from the team doctor, then bury every trace later on and pretend everything is just great. Watch Dark Side Of The Ring. Those guys worked for WWE, WCW, ECW............Im an average AEW fan and a WRESTLING fan.I dont and no other fan fiends for seeing a bad bump. Go crawl back into your WWE bubble
@@mikelachey824 I don’t know how to reply back to this without sounding jobless or a mark. Bro go get a life. No one in 2024 chanting ecw unprovoked. I don’t need to know that you are a aew fan. Like this is mark stuff you explaining a paragraph and still being wrong.
The fact you can tell me I’m wrong and bring up all the past. But not admit that aew is doing and going down the same road is wild. 2 things can be right 🤡
I graduated from killer kowalskis wrestling school in 1988 and wrestled in the indies mostly in the north east and ive wrestled and met alot of greats wrestled tony atlas sabu and a few others in 1992 i took a belly to back suplex from a wrestler that probably needed a bit nore training. As soon as he lifted me i knew nothing good was about to happen and i was right he ended up breaking my neck. Now im no kurt angle i never got back into the ring again after that day.
There’s a reason why a lot of people at AEW would it never have made it in a big national company without Tony Kahn being a money mark and just wanting to have a bunch of backyard wrestlers that WWE would probably never hire, but since Tony is one of them he has no problem because he’s basically doing his dream matches. I’ve said it 1000 times if you ask your average 25-year-old AEW fan if Curt Hennig what is a great worker they would all say yes, and then watch their face when you tell them that he never ever did high spots
i know it's not a funny subject but at 8:47 al describing the conversation in the back about performing that move and the ed grimley/good crotchwork comment had me belly laughing
Al is spot on, it's gonna take a death in the ring for indie companies to make a change. Modern wrestlers need to tell stories in the ring and not waste their athleticism on dangerous spots that could end their careers. I understand accidents happen but a lot of the high flyers, they don't last very long. Rey Mysterio had to adopt a more safer style just to keep up with the young guys, he knows his limits and he's probably got long term injuries doing crazy spots for decades.
I think they're so far gone that even a death in the ring isn't going to change anything. The other wrestlers will continue to be just as reckless and the braindead fans will cheer these people killing themselves.
@@experienceanimation217Well they need some SERIOUS and EXTENSIVE training. Some of those moves had me turn away in horror. All I could think is "Someone's gonna die or be crippled"!
Owwww Y de que manera te lastimó y avergonzó? Recuerdo no te puede lastimar si no te pasa a tí. Te recomiendo dejes de ver wrestling y veas telenovelas. Deja la falsa brújula de moralidad cuando realmente no te importa el luchador sino la empresa 😢😢😢😢😢
The WCW Cruiserweights weren’t doing this type of stuff though, they did high risk spots, and they got injured. This is an escalation of all the crazy Indy spots over the past 25 years, which were themselves an escalation of the Cruiserweight WCW and crazy ECW spots. These guys aren’t protecting themselves at all.
That's why ECW was mostly hot garbage. Poorly trained wrestlers influenced by Jerry Springer wrestling in a bingo hall doing over the top, extreme, hardcore stuff getting paid peanuts.
This is a problem looks to me like they were trying to do a brain buster off the turnbuckle but he completely missed and should never happen in a wrestling ring.
I said it during the extreme era, that although I felt privileged to catch the Hell in the Cell and TLC matches and such, I didn't ever want to see anyone take those kinds of risks again. These kids see Edge back now and think that everything will be okay but they don't notice Mick Foley limping around. The business is risky enough even without the OMG spots. So many spinal fusion surgeries, CTE cases, etc. even from wrestlers who weren't known to be high risk takers. (It's painful just to watch Kurt Angle walk these days.) I watch wrestling to be entertained, not to end up feeling bad about someone getting seriously permanently injured.
I live in a small city in Western Australia and go to see a small Australian promotion every couple of months. You'll never guess what move is the most over and gets the biggest pop when it happens. A chicken wing. The wrestler has epic charisma and his style is all based around locking in the chicken wing, so when he does, the crowd pops like wild. There are other wrestlers in the company that do dives, cradle piledrivers, top rope superplexes you name it; but the CHICKEN WING! chant is always louder.
WTF?! The brain Buster on the top turnbuckle is dangerous enough but at least there’s little safety precautions with that move. That there is just flat out dangerous!
Very important advice Al, and co. Any match that takes stupid risks like that should be getting --7 stars. (And meltzer should be held accountable more for publicly encouraging it. )
6:45 - isnt she supposed to be one of the "trainers," and she doesn't know how to take a front bump? Why do a leg lock to send it home? i'm pretty sure a KO is a legitimate ending to a fight... no? .... god the people in that company are such marks... 🤦♂
I love AEW and really appreciate the risks some of their wrestlers are willing to take to entertain everybody but sometimes it's just too much. I worry also that one day something really horrific will happen and just wish they'd tone it down a notch in some cases. I look at Darby Allin in Sting's retirement match and think there is no way he'll still be able to compete when he's 65 like Sting was, probably not even 45 the way he's going. He's not the only one though.
Darby will have a short career he takes way to many chances and I like him but he doesnt need to do half of what he does maybe Jeff Hardy should speak to him honestly
@@toddj.8245 totally agree, if anyone should know about the dangers of what he does Jeff Hardy would. Saying that Darby is off to climb Everest, he doesn't care about danger!
@@sickofit3192imagine that though…all the dangerous shit Jeff did and what ended his career was drugs lol…Jeff could do all that shit kind of safely to a fault…I feel like Darby is just one of those guys that are able to do these certain stunts and walk away safely
Gosh, I watched the PPV live and was stunned with the insane bumps in the Ospreay match and how I thought that one of them could be paralyzed or killed in the ring. And for what?
And it wasn’t even the finish…🤦🏻♂️ Edit: I love how the guy in the last clip puts his hands on top of his head like that was gonna prevent him from jamming his spine out of his asshole.
Brett Hart was always right. Protect your opponent as your opponent should protect you as well.
Bret
Sadly his brother owen didnt care about it
T*
That's way it's supposed to be done. Hell Bret even offered to come and help the guys but they didn't wanna hear it.
My bad.
Aew will have someone kick out at 1 to no sell a plane crash.
😂😂😂
So your telling they are "planning" to re-enact the Rick Flair plane crash next
Excalibur: "OH MY GOD HIS HEAD IS GONE! HIS HEAD IS GONE! NOW THE COVER, ONE, TWO, NOOOOOOOOOOO! JUST KICKS OUT! REFEREE AUBREY EDWARDS IN GREAT POSITION FOR THAT!"
Ric Flair did it.
@@James-if3kcback in the army we had a saying…
“Oh my god! Holy shit! His legs are gone!”
Okada just clotheslines people for a finisher and no one questions it. There is no need for these super dangerous moves.
wcw tried to do a finger poke as a finisher and get roasted for it to this day. maybe they should just play rock paper scissors.
This is a very stupid comment
@@gttrmgc3284 The finger poke got exactly the reaction that they were looking for.
Bryan Danielson got seriously injured on that move.
Am not 100% but i think Andrade broke his eye socket the week before and they used it for a angle Danielson can be unsafe to himself as well @@gregamania1327
Wrestlers are the biggest marks in the world. Wrestlers used to fake getting hurt and fans thought it was real, now the wrestlers hurt themselves and the fans think it's fake.
One day, Darby Allen will get himself killed in the AEW ring and nobody will care because it's "fake".
I was at the Smackdown taping in Uniondale, Ny, when D-Lo Brown paralyzed Droz. It was horrific. D-Lo lost his mind, I felt so bad for the guy. The show was stopped for at least an hour to get Droz stabilized and out of the ring. The arena was virtually silent.
Trust me, no one wants to see that shit live. These wrestlers think they're putting on a great show, but, in reality, it's actually pretty selfish, just like Al Snow said.
Remember when TK said that "AEW is the safest workplace in all of wrestling"?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Yeah and then he feared for his life 😂.
@@James-if3kcAmazing comment 👏👍
Not when Jericho gets you alone with a little bit of the bubbly
Thanks guys! This is Great!
I remember Tough Enough being on TV over twenty years ago. Al was so caring, so passionate teaching these kids about working safely. It made you realize how difficult professional wrestling could be.
that was my introduction to Al because i didnt grow up in the era when he was wrestling
He was wrestling like right before that.
Except for Wendell 😂😂
Even then my biggest memory of Tough Enough was Bob Holly beating the hell out of one of the contestants. MTV put a commercial break in the middle of it probably for a "call your friends and tell them to watch this" break.
During that break even BACK THEN I was like "How TF they really gonna say develop trust in protecting people and then turn around and allow this shit?"
@@Apocalypse3434Matt C.( don’t want to disrespect his last name by misspelling as he’s since passed RIP)
After rewatching that episode, I felt slightly less bad about Brock dropping him on his neck.
The rock got raising his eyebrow and a elbow over you dont have to do stupid moves.
Personally and stories are the most important things in wrestling.
Exactly, an eyebrow, drinking beer, and pointing to your ear are the 3 biggest draws in the history of wrestling.
@@81pdmattmick foley went from the crazy pumps to a sock and was still as over.
The Rock's moves are pretty stupid.
@@81pdmattdont forget to cup an ear and drop a leg
@@anonamatron I was about to say that!
An AEW diva was seriously bleeding when she got hit in her temple from a chair shot.
Not only I agree with Al Snow, he was right as well.
I’ll say look at Mick Foley. Dude relatively a young man. Mick is not that old at all. Yet he got the body of a late 80 year old man.
Someone will either die or get life changing injuries. These guys are going to be done by 40.
Owen does in a wwe ring Austin, page. Drop, big E. Edge, Danielson etc literally broke their necks In a wwe ring all life changing.
They have already have , had many with life changing injuries. All those concussions will have major impacts on them soon enough
And those marks would still scream “fight forever” 🙄 smh
@@EL_Chapo187 you are soft as a babys turd
Y?? El ya lo sabe y lo ha dicho en entrevistas así qué sigue llorando porque lo seguirá haciendo 😢😢😢
It dawned on me the business was over when Britt baker did a cage match and after it in the back she said "I hope Dave liked it , and someone off camera said 5 stars" and the happiness in her face was like she just impressed the most important person on earth
wtf this happened? my goodness.
After the cage match with thunder rosa
If the rumor of bonuses is true then I can see why she would be excited. You start caring more about that guy's opinion once Tony is padding the paycheck when it's good.
The business was over 20 plus years ago.
nah @@NathanLJustice
When Russo, Cornette and Bischoff all agree on the state of AEW, you know it must have major problems.
That’s word. TK is probably the only thing that can bring those three together.
Nah I think it’s just them all being washed up clout chasers fr
@@LightChaser2099 AEW is doing something wrong and their "hardcore" fans are the cause of this. Okada is announced in a title match, Copeland and Christian are advertised in a "i quit" match and yet they have 1000 viewers less than the week before? Maybe tone down the spotfest
Lol it's not In a bad state at all . They're all just washed up has been picking on the nee and exciting wrestling.
@@stijnvonck1431 genuinely couldn’t care less about ratings when watching a wrestling show
The amount of arrogance from fans who say AL Snow doesn't know what he's talking about is so ridiculous. Spot wrestling isn't wrestling isn't wrestling. When I worked the indies I was amongst the bigger guys. 6'4" 325. I worked with plenty of spot guys, and I always told them, "Nah you're going to actually work." For those dudes who couldn't actually work, they got pissed and then to up show them I wouldn't pull off a back-lit and they had nothing but work. Spot wrestling sucks and aew is such trash it gives a platform to it.
Woah there tough guy.
Bryan Danielson is NOT in good shape right now.
And the toxicity of AEW shifts from Punk to Daniel Bryan.
you just told the other dude you were gonna wrestle "Nah you're going to actually work.", I've never heard such bullshit in all my life bet you never even been in the ring
Me and my dad are huge wrestling fans and I asked him last week was he still watching AEW and he looked at me amd and said "no son, someone will end up dying with those types of moves and I don't want to witness it"
This a 74 year old war vet who did three tours in Vietnam.
He´s absolutly right
He sounds like one of the reasons we lost Vietnam then.
Life causes death !
Bruh just get up take a shower and walk outside,smell some fresh air go to the gym do something @dontmakemegothere7904
@@dontmakemegothere7904exactly. Weak men cost us that war.
AEW is the Mortal Kombat of wrestling.
Dont disrespect mortal kombat. Its safer than aew and has charasmatic stars.
yea sure @@atimetraveler4910
Kumite Championship Wrestling (KCW)
Aew is the nba live of wrestling
It's Mickey Mousecapades.
Lol Randy Orton worked a Elimination Chamber match and did nothing 😂these guys out here killing themselves for free TV
Randy was injured
@@ravenwda007And he and the other wrestlers protected him as best as they could. If it was AEW he would've been powerbombed off of the top of a pod through a table.
@@bootneyfarnsworth2844 probably
Randy wasn’t legitimately injured. He was working. You got worked.
@@MC-zt3wbgood, proves the point. Randy can walk around and point at his head and I'd watch that for an hour over Darby nearly entering traction yet again.
All these stupid and dangerous moves for 1 guy in his 60s with shoe polish in his hair that runs a website.
Exactly.
Idiot
Cry more 😂
Worship Meltzer more.
The pay-per-views usually pull in around 150,000 purchases, while TV viewership sits at approximately 800,000, so it's not just catering to one individual. Al makes valid points in the video, but his tone seems noticeably bitter.
That reverse Razors Edge thing is one of the most dangerous moves I have ever seen
He was supposed to flip and land on his back
i think it was meant for morrison to flip over and land on his back..
Al Snow is not bitter. He says this because he cares about both people’s lives and the business. And he feels he has to be blunt to get his message to sink in. And sometimes you do have to be blunt because people don’t listen.
He has nothing to be bitter about. Even as a mid card guy, being famous from the biggest era in wrestling history, guarantees he will be remembered long after the "stars" in AEW. Most of these folks couldn't draw flies to a truckload of horseshit. WWE can create stars. AEW can't.
@@mattwhittington44 Al Snow drew more than Mjf , Kenny Omega, The Young Bucks and Okadu combined
WTF , did people know life causes death and people die every day !
"Smuggle a gun in your prison purse" 💀 😂
It’s wild how careless they are. I want AEW to do well. But not at this cost man
Like New Jack with his knife
@@kageyureihyuga793 Or Al Snow with his head.
Even in the replies, *THE PRISON PURSE* isn't getting the pop it deserves. I'm heated, bro.
Watch out , somebody is going to pretend die just like the wrestling
You know you have a problem is when a hardcore legend is telling you to stop
Al was also a trainer and producer after his in-ring career.
He knows of what he speaks.
You mean hardcore Legends who lived in the Attitude Era who probably did things like this all the time. It's like a professional football player trying to tell them you're doing this dangerous when, well, it's a dangerous sport. What was the difference between mankind and some of the crisis stuff he did? I think it's pretty bad when we have hardcore Legends for getting what wrestling is it's dangerous.
@samsunguser6608 Then I find it even more weird that he doesn't acknowledge the Attitude Era. What's the difference between this crazy stuff versus Mankind Hell in the Cell vs Undertaker. I find it also kind of weird that he doesn't acknowledge the fact that wrestling is dangerous.
@samsunguser6608 yes and he still is a trainer i believe
@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 At least these moves in the 90's were far and between, a couple PPV's apart. They can have literally weeks rehearsing a dangerous spot.
Al is calling this out because the AEW guys do this weekly, with hardly any buildup or storylines. Less time to practice means botches are more likely.
Al Snow is 1,000% right. Its not even a debate really.
OMG I am watching this and I cant fathom why anyone would agree to do this!!!!
Once again AEW confirms Darwin's theory of the survival of the idiots.
@@vanthadoun1exactly. Can't believe anyone in aew hasn't been seriously injured or ended up in a wheelchair. Just look when ospreay put the tiger driver 91 on kenny omega
Yeah but I see a lot of idiots in these comments defending that crap. SMH
@@ozzy6994 True. Wrestling fans deserve the state of the industry they're stuck with. Same with gamers.
Actually laughed hard at, "I'm sure the consequence was Will could kick out and get more offense."
Genius levels of dry sarcasm. Love it.
Somewhere out there some AEW FAN is going to start attacking this video and defending this unsafe Environment
There's a bunch of them doing just that. These fans are insane.
Wonder what Big E thinks about this.
More veterans need to speak out, because it may just save someone's life on this show. Genuinely.
LOL Worry about the other promotion. People die in that company and they just scrub them from existence, because the facts may come out. LOL Whether its steroids, poorly choreographed plunges to your death, or the owner sexually molesting the talent along with his wrestlers. LOL AEW is just fine
They won't listen.
This generation only listens to black women
@@James-if3kc don't matter. Better to have said something than to have ignored it
I guess.
And the best part is they do all these bumps, for matches with no build up that aren't remembered in three weeks, even by their own fans.
That’s just absolutely terrible to think about.
I remember them you smark
@@coke8045 smark. Lol. Good one. But here's the thing. I don't have to constantly defend the stuff I like online. Whereas someone like you has to play defense for a company that a huge majority of wrestling fans think is absolute crap. You're not content with just liking something, because you know deep down in your heart, it's bad storytelling by subpar wrestlers and you aren't confident enough with yourself or the product. Hence, the 24 hour defensive line against anyone who points out the obvious about your lame, sad pathetic company. Meanwhile, I can just go back and watch ALL the great wrestling that still holds up to this day that people still remember, look at fondly and enjoy.
Gotta impress these neck beards, gotta get the "holy sh*t" chants. Totally worth it 🤦🏻♂️
Who even knew about it?? Useless
The Darby Allin spot from Revolution literally blew my mind. I get it, he's a spot machine and a bump machine - especially for the Sting matches they did - but launching himself off the top of that ladder unto chairs and a plate of glass (even if it's sugar glass or gimmick glass, it's still glass, just look at his back after!) is insane. He could have easily been paralyzed doing that, full stop. Or worse like Al Snow said.
Its some kind of miracle that Darby Allin is still alive. I like the guy and think if he bulked up he has the charisma to be great…
But at this rate dude is going to be in a wheelchair by age 40.
@@TalibannedProduction Yeah, I got into an argument on the Ups and Downs video for Revolution and that spot specifically. Like, I get that people like Darby and want to defend him - but come on. Maybe because I've been a wrestling fan for 45 years now that I can separate this stuff from just being a casual fan etc. but workers don't need to kill themselves like Jeff Hardy used to do also. There's a reason wrestlers die at such young ages or wind up in a wheelchair before the age of 50.
Darby Allin will get himself paralyzed one day and think he’s the caliber of Mick Foley
Honestly looked like something from a CZW deathmatch.
Darby allin is the new spike dudley
And D-Lo and Droz we’re both trained and both knew what they were doing but it’s something that happened. Just a freak accident but doing a move that is normally completely safe if done correctly. But when you have these guys that are trying to please uncle Dave and do this stupid shit…, Al Snow is right . One of the biggest problems is at some point guys stopped getting trained by experience, pro wrestlers, and they just started training themselves to do video game moves and high spots and somewhere along the line. That’s what determined if you were a good worker or not. I don’t think most of today’s wrestler really know what being a good worker is.
Agree. TNA have the non floppy guys who are believable main eventers and could build a classic style main event scene but are still being a super indie with no stories, long matches and small flippy guys
When you had one or two floppy guy matches per show it's great but when all matches are the same style they have to be extreme to stand out. Its the equivalent of the old entirely hardcore match feds like CZW
They better stop UFC , somebody is gonna die one of these days and it's actual fighting !
The company is one big cluster fuck. I hope they don't drag Okada down to this level.
What they say about the claw, an actual example is the Samoan Spike from Solo. Simple thing booked well.
Yep. Mandible claw is another example.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the spike but I agree. I always subscribed to big men do power moves as their finisher (within reason) and smaller guys use their body as the finisher (splash, phenomenal forearm, 619,etc) for believe ability. Keep in mind I’m a huge solo fan. Just wish he had a better finisher. Always loved the rikishi driver. Simple yet devastating looking. Hardly any chance of messing it up because u always have a good idea to position the head.
But no one will compare if JBL hits a clothesline from hell out of no where and still devestating to watch
@@bfettrules1239I would imagine the difference is about 12 inches circumference of thigh meat.
@@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334 what?
Al Snow would be such a huge benefit to develop AEW talent and to be an in-ring producer over there
The roster wouldn't listen to him anyway. They didn't/don't even listen to advice from William Regal, JR, and most of the legit legends in the company.
@@patshowiedoit5340And we were hoping the Ex-WWE legends would at least be able to pass on their wisdom. All for nothing.
I don't think that will happen after this lol
What Punk said at that infamous scrum still rings true, "Your on a team with the best players and you say, I don't need to take advice from you, go fuck yourself, fucking grow up"@@patshowiedoit5340
@@patshowiedoit5340That’s probably the biggest thing of it all in that the talent doesn’t want to listen to them.
AEW should stand for "A"ccident "E"xpected "W"eekly"...
did your mom tell you to say that
Actually a pretty good acronym joke.
yea cant stop laughing at idiots online trying desperately to be funny and failing laugh more when I take a shit @@supergluehotty
Well I have watched a few of their shows and I do get scared at times because I have seen so many dangerous and stupid stunts do to corner cutting and carelessness.
in the UK our hospitals' emergency rooms are actually called Accident & Emergency Wards (AEW)
I was watching WWE Smackdown and Ridge Holland basically ended Big E's career with a botched move. Although the TV camera cut away even I knew Big E wasn't supposed to land on his head.
WWE don't Botch and cause accidents. These guys are hypocrites. They still taking a cheque from WWE
I never seen anything like I seen in those clips. If your a supporter, your the problem. Someone is definitely gonna end up paralyzed or dead.
Found one Uncle Dave bootlicker
Matches like this should be given 1 star, it’s the only thing that’ll discourage them…
I would even bring back the dud rating
Trying to get "the 5 star match" is exactly why they do all this shlt. They don't know how to build characters, so they try to gain acceptance by doing crazy spots.
Why? No one pays Meltzer any attention except wrestling smarks.
A 5 star match used to be the pinnacle, with every aspect being perfect from psychology, selling, crowd reaction, etc. now it’s who does the riskiest moves. Theirs no quality standards for making a move look dangerous. They can stumble/botch/hurt their opponent, with no impact to their rating.
@@hitek9too255And those are the people in the ring nowadays.
Al snow knows what he is talking about, his match with Shawn was awesome and both put in
the work in that match.
Ironically, he is largely known for his time spent in one of the most dangerous drug-induced botch-fest promotions of all time (where miraculously no one died, and I suspect if Heyman had not jewed everyone out of money and the promotion had been around longer, someone would have).
@@Arctic_FalconExactly. He's seen this bullshit before, he's lived it.
Aew is literally Tony playing with his "Action Figures" weird Bumps and all 😂
Can you come up with an original criticism that isn't a quote from Jim Cornette? I swear you guys are incapable of thinking for yourselves but keep blindly following a bitter, unemployed nerd that has contributed literally nothing of value to the business
WWE was literally VKM play with his action figures to fulfill his humiliation fetish.
Darby came up with the spot but okay
@@mullet_godcry more
More like video games. They see it in a video game and think it would be cool to do.
This is why I love the wwe style it’s enough to engage me but not make me cringe at something so dangerous
The denial from AEW die hards saying "you can get injured anyway" or "it's not ballet" is dumb lol You can die in a car accident driving safe. You can also get into one driving recklessly. Do both carry the same risk? No. In the AEW fan argument, driving safe is just as dangerous as driving recklessly, so why not drive recklessly?
WWE already had people die in the ring, that's just a fact.
And besides the safety aspect which is paramount just in a human decency way of not treating people as expendable commodities there is also the feature in professional wrestling that "faking" it actually takes more skill. It's easy to be unsafe and be brutal in the ring. It's a craft and artform to express carnage and mayhem in the ring through story and illusion but being ultimately safe about it. That is where the real skill lies.
AEW fans are cultists they can't be reasoned with , they're useless
Anna Jay and Julia Hart have both almost died in the last couple years from smacking their heads on the concrete floor.
And Matt Hardy
They didn't almost die, stop exaggerating. Now Big E? That's someone who could have literally knocked on deaths door, but it's WWE so whatever.
@@duckmercy11mark
….almost died they didn't even have a injury
Well, when they end up with ECW and WWE's track record, then something can be said. Funny they go to town on a bad bump. Not like Ospreay fell 50 feet onto the ring post.
The fans wont say anything abt it unless its Vince mcmahon and wwe. But its aew so it's ok.
Been saying this for ages. "Vince doesn't care about the safety of his wrestlers!" And then the same fans chant "We want fire!"
To be fair. Owen died in Vince's ring.
They tend to bring up Vince and WWE when the topic has nothing to do with them. It’s embarrassing
cap. theres SO MANY anti-aew iwc fans out there now.
@@misters4022they just want AEW to go away so bad i don't understand the reason
Wrestling was more fun when wrestlers had gimmicks like Big Boss Man, Doink, Outback Jack, IRS, Million Dollar Man, Koko B. Ware, and etc.
Yea if your a 5 year old
@@GetRDone1969you're Gheylord
@@GetRDone1969Exactly. That's the problem with today's wrestling. Tha fan base is mostly made up of middle aged marks not young fans.
@@GetRDone1969And yet they drew in more money than "first name/last name/black trunks/black boots/crew cut/tatoos" assholes overwhelming wrestling rosters nowadays.
@@GetRDone1969i think if you are a grown adult watching people pretend to fight without any characters or storylines, and rating the choreography of it... the 5 year old gets the point, and you don't. We've all accepted it's a work and watch anyways. Without the gimmicks or characters, we are just watching guys do a fake sport. Which is why the viewership doesn't increase without story. An action movie with just great choreographed fight scenes and zero character arcs or good acting between the fights would not draw money either, because you'd be watching grown adults play fight for no reason. So essentially, you're just a loser and the 5 year old you're referencing gets it.
Ive never heard Russo talk that long without saying "bro."
I’m sorry but all these AEW fans complain about WWE being “soft”, but they fail to remember that when WWE was hardcore back in the day, CTE wasn’t something that people knew or wanted to acknowledge. Just look at how they wrestled then, on a weekly basis just like AEW is now, and how they had little to no time to recover from it. And not just head injuries but other bodily injuries as well. Anyone watched the doc on Chris B on Dark Side of the Ring?
If AEW fans really cared about the business like say they do, they should be worried about these wrestlers and their well being, instead of going into a piss match with a WWE fan over “ratings” 🙄
Why does Al sound like a lawnmower that needs a little more oil
He's had issues with hiccups,could be medication
I believe he had a surgery, and his voice is stuck like that. Saved his life though.
Stephen Hawking
Same like Stevie Richards. I believe that they had the same medical procedures done.
You foul reice 💀
It's only a matter of time....
Hey there man. I got 2 words for ya & im not validate or say but if your a wrestling fans you know these 2 words over there
Nah it happened already in wwf
YOU IN AEW BABY....
YOU GONNA DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
@@juicybear7696and no one did a stunt like that ever again at least til Logan Paul did it
Hope not.
Sammy ahould not only he suspended but put on contract. If you cant keep your guys safe get out the ring
Sammy should be banned from wrestling.
GTH on a concussed opponent?? That’s a special type of stupid.
Match was edited for TV. My understanding is there was a long break after Jeff got hurt, before they decided to proceed. The doc examined Jeff and they decided to go to the finish, instead of calling the match. The doc and the ref should be suspended, not Sammy.
Also, why are they suspending him two weeks later? Seems like Sammy is being made the scapegoat here.
@@PygmySurfer Maybe he can join the House of Torture with Jack Perry if he is. :P It is an odd decision to suspend him if the doctor decided it was safe to do the take-home spot admittedly.
Remember that guy that Rey Mysterio was wrestling that went to take the 619 and the rope whiplashed and broke his neck/killed him??
I'm not a wrestler but even I know just how dangerous even the most "simple" things are, so when they do things that actually look extremely dangerous?? Thats terrifying. Beyond terrifying. Al is right.
The fact that they do spots like this then kick out only later to be pinned by something so tame in comparison makes me wonder if any of the agents have any common sense at all
That first clip of the suplex off the ropes was disgusting to watch.
Horrific bro!
If you watch the first video carefully,
Not only his
"HEAD COULD BE BUSTED OPEN",
But even more likely:
"HIS NECK, OR BACK MAYBE BOTH COULD HAVE BEEN BROKEN!"
it was a modified brain buster
Absolutely!!!
I am appalled
Yet when Sami does it its "moty" at mania. Hypocrites
Agree, Meltzer and his ilk will talk sadly like they were always against it. But they haven't said a word about the risks at all. They give these kinds of idiots awards and high ratings and condone this sort of dangerous stunt.
Instead of taking part in worked press conferences, they should be scrutinising safety policy and asking why wrestlers are taking this kind of risk.
Wrong, Meltzer talks about wrestlers doing dangerous shit all the time, and even downgrades matches because of it.
Dave Meltzer never stepped foot in any squared circle nor ever worked for any promotion. I would take what Meltzer says with a grain of salt.
The people in the seats and in front of the tv's are equally to blame. You've cheered and pushed for this. Every moron who taped themselves hitting themselves with household items and jumping off their houses.
@@duckmercy11That will stop them 😂
Osprey is just a reckless athletic stuntman, not a pro wrestler
I thought this said "autistic" stuntman at first, which works just as well.
With 0 mic skills
"But, but, he says BRUV all the time! BRUV! It's a cool catchphrase! BRUV!"
@@James-if3kcFucking stupid! He sounds like an idiot saying that
La Knight says YEA STONE COLD SAYS WHAT no difference And JEY USO SAYS YEET WHICH ISNT A WORD
I noticed a change in AEW over the last few months, it's like Tony has pulled the storylines and decided to push the wrestlers into more extreme moves and showboating. I would prefer the storylines to be added back in and give me the entertainment value I enjoyed
The leg catch on the ropes is likely the only reason he did not break his neck.
WTF.
I've said this about wrestling in general. I doubt audiences would hate matches with fewer hard, stupid bumps and more good story telling.
It's always the hits that look easy that cause real harm.
"It's unbelievable how many of these clips we have on a weekly basis."
4:15 I remember someone seriously getting hurt by a buckle bomb and all this discussion about how it should be removed from the move sets entirely. Clearly this guy disagreed.
You would think that with STING in aew ,TK would tell his goofballs to not do a buckle bomb.
@@QAZ-OMENNah someone could legit die in AEW and a vast majority of their fan base will somehow blame WWE for it.
"It's all Vince's fault for starting the Attitude Era and making us think we want violence! He brainwashed us into cheering for it!!!"
cope@@James-if3kc
And that was from the canvas level. Not off the top rope ONTO the turnbuckle. Sickening.
This was idiotic. AEW is one step away from being backyard wrestling smh.
Mudshow!111
OSPREAY IS 🐐 he does tiger driver 91 and is safe he’s willing to take risks wwe would never allow
I don't think Leif Cassidy AND VINCE FUCKING RUSSO of all people are in any position to talk about someone potentially dying in wrestling.
They weren't Snow did, and he's definitely in a position to say so. Watching those videos solidifies my decision that AEW doesn't gaf about their wrestlers safety
Back in the day, people like this would've never made it into wrestling. They'd have been beaten down in training, and if they'd have made it through that, would be beaten out of the business on day one.
You can demonize it as "gatekeeping" all you want, but ultimately it was done to stop people like this from killing someone, or themselves.
Yeah - At least 90% of the aew shit show would never of survived one day of Verne Gagnes training camp. Or Stu Harts.
@@foreverunsaved6661 I was Indy backyard wrestler and our promoter outright said if you don't understand the fundamentals, walk out now
She said I won't have anyone injury themselves or anyone else over some hardcore spot bullshit
Since I was a drama class kid and did promos in my mirror for years I had a slight advantage but still had to learn the fundamentals and yeah you get your ass worked
Good thing these AEW wrestlers dont work a 300 day road schedule like the WWF and NWA did in the 1980s
This should be their new logo...A E🤕W (wrestle here at own risk)
Better than W W 👮♂️E
Ambulance every week
@@rageofraven 😂👎
Not even ECW was this dangerous even CZW and XPW had limits
This is why NXT is a thing so the young wrestlers learn how to work safely.
I think this is one of the very few things Russo and Cornette actually agree on.
I totally agree. I've watched AEW on a weekly basis since they've started up, & I've seen more injuries in the past few years than I ever did watching as a youngster.
If somebody is going to get killed or die in the AEW ring, that's going to be Darby Allen.
Al Snow needs to open a wrestling school.
I think he used to have one here in London
I remember Al Snow became the owner and trainer of OVW, I don't know if he still is.
@@gurudamn9245 He is still part owner and still runs its day to day operations as its executive producer.
The guy on the receiving end hooked the top rope with his legs at the last possible second. That's the only way he avoided a broken neck.
Terry Funk said it best less is more . What are you going to do during your next match tables then it’s flaming tables then exploding rings . When does it end ?
Not the best example since Funk helped popularize hrdcore wrestling.
Jake the Snake said the same thing.
@@James-if3kc gimick garbage matches are good for ending bloody feud . it works if they are rare
I agree.
Spot on. #1 rule is to keep the other guy safe, always. Reward good show business, including great storylines, instead of ridiculous suicidal spots.
Honestly how have we NOT seen this happen yet, they are nuts, God bless and protect them.
But.."You're gona look good in You're suit, I guarantee it!" - Mens wear house
This is a wild clip. But the average aew fan fiends for things like this. “It’s real. It’s art.”
LOLOL As the WWE fans still chant ECW. Save it. The amount of deaths and accidents in those companies. Benoit had the brain of an 85 year old man and more than half the brain tissue was dead. Owen, 50 feet to his death. Droz, New Jack, Edge career ending injury, I could go on and on. So save the bullshit about AEW fans that enjoy a great wrestling match. At least they dont fall to their deaths because of faulty equiptment and have a locker room full of roids and drugs from the team doctor, then bury every trace later on and pretend everything is just great. Watch Dark Side Of The Ring. Those guys worked for WWE, WCW, ECW............Im an average AEW fan and a WRESTLING fan.I dont and no other fan fiends for seeing a bad bump. Go crawl back into your WWE bubble
Fat neckbeards who have convinced themselves that this stuff is art. They couldn't even get into a ring without tearing a muscle.
@@mikelachey824 >WWE fans still chant ECW
THEY WERE NOT DROPPING OTHER WRESTLERS ON THEIR FUCKING HEADS, fuckknob!
@@mikelachey824 I don’t know how to reply back to this without sounding jobless or a mark. Bro go get a life. No one in 2024 chanting ecw unprovoked. I don’t need to know that you are a aew fan. Like this is mark stuff you explaining a paragraph and still being wrong.
The fact you can tell me I’m wrong and bring up all the past. But not admit that aew is doing and going down the same road is wild. 2 things can be right 🤡
Been saying the same thing forever. Literally can't believe it hasn't happened yet.
I graduated from killer kowalskis wrestling school in 1988 and wrestled in the indies mostly in the north east and ive wrestled and met alot of greats wrestled tony atlas sabu and a few others in 1992 i took a belly to back suplex from a wrestler that probably needed a bit nore training. As soon as he lifted me i knew nothing good was about to happen and i was right he ended up breaking my neck. Now im no kurt angle i never got back into the ring again after that day.
There’s a reason why a lot of people at AEW would it never have made it in a big national company without Tony Kahn being a money mark and just wanting to have a bunch of backyard wrestlers that WWE would probably never hire, but since Tony is one of them he has no problem because he’s basically doing his dream matches.
I’ve said it 1000 times if you ask your average 25-year-old AEW fan if Curt Hennig what is a great worker they would all say yes, and then watch their face when you tell them that he never ever did high spots
i know it's not a funny subject but at 8:47 al describing the conversation in the back about performing that move and the ed grimley/good crotchwork comment had me belly laughing
Al is spot on, it's gonna take a death in the ring for indie companies to make a change. Modern wrestlers need to tell stories in the ring and not waste their athleticism on dangerous spots that could end their careers. I understand accidents happen but a lot of the high flyers, they don't last very long. Rey Mysterio had to adopt a more safer style just to keep up with the young guys, he knows his limits and he's probably got long term injuries doing crazy spots for decades.
Even a death in the ring won't make them change anything.
I think they're so far gone that even a death in the ring isn't going to change anything. The other wrestlers will continue to be just as reckless and the braindead fans will cheer these people killing themselves.
I had to cringe at 1:16 myself to be honest. Are these guys off their rockers?!
They are amateur wrestlers being given professional cheques. It ain't good. And damages the integrity of the business as a whole
@@experienceanimation217Well they need some SERIOUS and EXTENSIVE training. Some of those moves had me turn away in horror. All I could think is "Someone's gonna die or be crippled"!
Owwww Y de que manera te lastimó y avergonzó? Recuerdo no te puede lastimar si no te pasa a tí. Te recomiendo dejes de ver wrestling y veas telenovelas. Deja la falsa brújula de moralidad cuando realmente no te importa el luchador sino la empresa 😢😢😢😢😢
Yes. They're fuckin nuts
when high risk spots become the norm, the business is gone.
I been saying this for awhile now. A crazy spot will last my memory for about a day and then I am over it. Pushing the envelope will cost some lives.
the same was said about ECW, the same was said about the crusierweights in WCW, the same is now being said about AEW.
did any of those two die in the ring?
The WCW Cruiserweights weren’t doing this type of stuff though, they did high risk spots, and they got injured. This is an escalation of all the crazy Indy spots over the past 25 years, which were themselves an escalation of the Cruiserweight WCW and crazy ECW spots. These guys aren’t protecting themselves at all.
@@tylercox1875surprised new jack is still alive
@@vdelprado9251he passed away like three years ago.
That's why ECW was mostly hot garbage. Poorly trained wrestlers influenced by Jerry Springer wrestling in a bingo hall doing over the top, extreme, hardcore stuff getting paid peanuts.
This is a problem looks to me like they were trying to do a brain buster off the turnbuckle but he completely missed and should never happen in a wrestling ring.
Can't deny nothing he said... those spots be pointless
I said it during the extreme era, that although I felt privileged to catch the Hell in the Cell and TLC matches and such, I didn't ever want to see anyone take those kinds of risks again. These kids see Edge back now and think that everything will be okay but they don't notice Mick Foley limping around. The business is risky enough even without the OMG spots. So many spinal fusion surgeries, CTE cases, etc. even from wrestlers who weren't known to be high risk takers. (It's painful just to watch Kurt Angle walk these days.) I watch wrestling to be entertained, not to end up feeling bad about someone getting seriously permanently injured.
I live in a small city in Western Australia and go to see a small Australian promotion every couple of months. You'll never guess what move is the most over and gets the biggest pop when it happens. A chicken wing.
The wrestler has epic charisma and his style is all based around locking in the chicken wing, so when he does, the crowd pops like wild. There are other wrestlers in the company that do dives, cradle piledrivers, top rope superplexes you name it; but the CHICKEN WING! chant is always louder.
8:30... to be fair.. he was at least protecting himself by landing on his forearms here.. that was essentially the same bump as a spike DDT.
Yeah but taking a ddt you drop flat on your stomach. This move they showed. That's not possible. He had to go straight in head first .
@@MrJjburgess11 🤦♂
He was way to vertical for a ddt bud
Ur supposed to take the bump flat almost like a belly flop
@@royfarris5889 how many have you taken?
3:00 - Yes, Al Snow!.
The chop is super over in WWE with Gunther.
WTF?! The brain Buster on the top turnbuckle is dangerous enough but at least there’s little safety precautions with that move. That there is just flat out dangerous!
Her name is Sasha Banks and she will rag doll herself a turnbuckle during some dumb rematch with Paige.
The problem is that no wrestler wants to be a main Event star but rather the show stealer star
All
Emergency room
Wrestling
Very important advice Al, and co. Any match that takes stupid risks like that should be getting --7 stars. (And meltzer should be held accountable more for publicly encouraging it. )
It's a miracle that this hasn't happened yet
Literally only one place in American mainstream wrestling has someone died in the ring.
Had nothing to do with the moves being done in the ring, but nice try at deflecting from the point.
6:45 - isnt she supposed to be one of the "trainers," and she doesn't know how to take a front bump?
Why do a leg lock to send it home? i'm pretty sure a KO is a legitimate ending to a fight... no? .... god the people in that company are such marks... 🤦♂
Whats a mark?
@@bigbens33 you want the traditional definition or the modern one?
I love AEW and really appreciate the risks some of their wrestlers are willing to take to entertain everybody but sometimes it's just too much. I worry also that one day something really horrific will happen and just wish they'd tone it down a notch in some cases. I look at Darby Allin in Sting's retirement match and think there is no way he'll still be able to compete when he's 65 like Sting was, probably not even 45 the way he's going. He's not the only one though.
Darby will have a short career he takes way to many chances and I like him but he doesnt need to do half of what he does maybe Jeff Hardy should speak to him honestly
@@toddj.8245 totally agree, if anyone should know about the dangers of what he does Jeff Hardy would. Saying that Darby is off to climb Everest, he doesn't care about danger!
@@sickofit3192imagine that though…all the dangerous shit Jeff did and what ended his career was drugs lol…Jeff could do all that shit kind of safely to a fault…I feel like Darby is just one of those guys that are able to do these certain stunts and walk away safely
Gosh, I watched the PPV live and was stunned with the insane bumps in the Ospreay match and how I thought that one of them could be paralyzed or killed in the ring. And for what?
Yes you have a problem when an ecw legend says hell no.
Bobby heenan has said it's been over for almost 30 years
Coming back from seeing swerve got needle in his mouth. Al is right they really want to top everything that they do.
And it wasn’t even the finish…🤦🏻♂️
Edit: I love how the guy in the last clip puts his hands on top of his head like that was gonna prevent him from jamming his spine out of his asshole.