It's not just his intelligence. It's because Vince has a big man fetish. Paul and Brian didn't fit that "mold". I have a personal training friend of mine who i workout with who got a try out with the company. And he told that's EXACTLY the reason why guys like Paul and Brian don't go far. Rey Mysterio did because he was already over huge when he made his move to the company. Plus, his family lineage in this business. But if you look at great wrestlers like Dean Malenko etc...they never went far in the WWE. They were treated better in WCW because they at least had a substantial cruiserweight division. Yes WWE had a lightheavyweight division but it didn't last long now did it. That's one of the things they ABSOLUTELY should bring back today. Considering the guys on the roster right now are FAR smaller then they were back in the 90's and early 2000's.
@@tomtalker2000if u bring back the cruiserweight division right now then who would compete for the world title? Since everyone is small like u said lol it makes no sesnse to bring the cruiserweight division back cuz everyone is a cruiserweight now
Sensation does some great impressions man! Vince was funny. 😂 The low and high voice he had and the stone cold was literally perfect. If they did an audio comparison I bet it would extremely close to Austin's.
00:01 Ex WWE wrestlers discuss the intimidating nature of Vince McMahon. 02:02 Ex WWE wrestlers share strange encounters with Vince McMahon. 06:20 Former WWE wrestlers recall confrontations with Vince McMahon over their in-ring style 08:42 Disagreement over using finishers 13:25 Ex WWE wrestlers discuss challenges working under Vince McMahon 15:34 Ex WWE wrestler shares experience of being released by Vince McMahon 19:55 Former wrestler shares an interesting interaction with Vince McMahon. 22:04 Kurt Angle wanted to retire after WrestleMania and requested to be put with John Cena 25:40 Wrestler suing Vince McMahon over royalties 27:39 Issues with Vince McMahon's business practices 31:45 Multiple ex WWE wrestlers discuss their experiences with Vince McMahon 33:51 Ex-WWE wrestlers share their experience of working with Vince McMahon Crafted by Merlin AI.
I know one wrestler that wouldn't put up with Vince if he had stayed because Vince couldn't control him and I'm talking about New Jack. I remember that interview he had years ago.
Has Jason spoken publicly about what happened to him? I’ve seen him for several long forum interviews but haven’t heard him open up to what happened. Seems like a traumatic event that zapped away his strength as a person. I’m probably off on this but just asking
I think when you have be SA its really up to Jason if he wants to bring it up but none of us should ever push or ask. Trauma is real and manifests it's ways into other addictions if you don't get help. Again, I don't have any knowledge regarding this, but feel we should leave this topic alone.
In concerns with Paul London being told not to do 450s, when Vince told him ‘we should make an exception for you?’ as soon as I heard that, if Paul would have said ‘I’ll do it 100 times in front of you to show me land it perfect each time’ and I bet he’d have let him prove it! What an epic story that would have made!
to me, kidman was buried cuz his GF was hot and he was a WCW guy. Maybe you did the shooting star press better, I didn't watch wrestling at the time, but kidman had the best Shooting Star Press back in the day, and it was awesome in WCW
Calling your boss Sir? Yes, if you're in the forces, but at work? You might call them Mr/Miss/Mrs or even Doctor or Professor, but never sir. One of my old 'bosses' is now in the House of Lords (yes, I'm in England) and it was always first name with him.
These are interesting stories but Vince was right some of these moves have been done before and they failed horribly he's been running this business from way back and knows which arena moves should not be performed because of the dangers that they presented before
I’m just over here marking out over a Brian Hebner appearance. You all remember how his body would somehow go 5 feet in the air when he counted a match to 3 😂
Actually, Vince was right, safety is more a priority over high spots for a pop, in a Fortune 500 company. Ironically everyone did copy it (as Vince foresaw)
@@decollector95not hating, l still think the guy is super talented and funny as hell. That bald look doesn’t look good on him but it’s probably not his fault 😂
When I say Vince is a prick, I get called a “mArK”. Now who’s laughing? To hell with everyone who ever defended Vince. I’ve known he was a freaky prick for decades. The fact that those who didn’t outwardly state the same shit I did, pretends to be surprised, is total bullshit.
This might come to years of gathering information from potential hundreds of people coming forward Vince is so fucked he might die before this hits trial
Not forgiving any bad deeds of his as only God can but it must have been hard when everyone is scared to talk to you like a normal person. Regardless of how his outward appearance came off. Blessings to all life.
René you did a great job with your gimmick because I hated you. 🤣 I've started watching you and Maven on UA-cam, and you guys are pretty good dudes in my book.💪
I side with Vince about Paul London wanting to the Shooting star press, that setup has to be on point, if something off things can go terribly wrong. So Mcmahon was looking out for his wrestlers and avoiding a lawsuit
Knowing what we know now about vince and punishing people for saying now i wouldnt be suprised if vince ordered the death clothesline that london took that nearly killed him 😂😂😂😂😂
Heb sounds like hes just a lil to soft for the business just fucking ask him the question “yo vinny wtf are they calling me tonight?” How hard is that idc if he gets mad “you mad homie? Shidd me vs you tonight in that ring” 🤣
I get vince is a POS but if he was so bad then why did all these guys stay for as long as as they did. And everyone is coming out of the woodwork saying they knew vince was a monster are pieces of shit too for not saying anything when those checks came every 2 weeks. So its cool vince is a monster as long as you get paid?
Love hearing these stories but can’t help but think they are embellishing some. I mean, c’mon bruh, you didn’t get a standing ovation from the boys after a velocity match 🤣. These dudes love to talk tough now but were scared to death of VKM in real life and would have never said these things to him… but hard to defend VKM after those allegations. Dude is sick in the head 🤦🏼♂️
Cowards. All of them are Cowards. None of them had a single thing to say while Vince McMahon was around and running the show. Now that he's gone they're all piling on. Bruno tried to expose this crap in the late 80s and early 90s, and the top voices in the business hung him out to dry and remained silent.
These stories crack me up and I’m not sticking up for Vince, but after awhile, with the exception of Kurt - who didn’t even talk bad of Vince, all these dudes were jobbers and probably have held a grudge for awhile. I mean I remember the Killer Bees back in the 80’s but saying the reason you’re not in the HOF is because of a 12k lawsuit from the 80’s is insane. Lot of these dudes just salty they weren’t Stone Cold, Hogan or Rock.
This is so silly. The first two stories make Vince sound great. He wasn’t rude to hebner - he was nice, made a quick decision and moved on! As if Vince can spend 15 min worrying about the ref’s name! lol. As to the London doing the shooting star… well sure maybe Paul can do it and should be allied to, but Vince was trying to prevent the business from going aew… and that looks pretty damn good now. We all know Kidman messed some people up. Look at what Guevara did to hardy this weekend. And Vince was right… now we have a million shooting star plus three twists and guys are getting hurt a lot.
Look at all this stupid shit herb abrams junior( TK) Books and has all the boys doing these stupid ass spots and getting hurt. For years I always wandered what would happen if somebody from the Meltzer message boards was able to buy a wrestling company and now I know because TK Was a mark from the message boards. He books all these crazy a** matches. And he looks at his wrestlers has nothing more than e Interchangeable toys.
He called Vince a scary fuckin wizard😂😂😂😂😂
I like how Rene looks like he's always buffering, but he's actually listening, lol.
Pro wrestlings answer to AJ Hawk on McAfee
😂 he looks like the early days of the lockdown 🤣🤣🤣
I’m loving these stories. It speaks to my loathing of the corporate world.
I hear ya brother
man-child lol
Me to
Working with a scary fuckin wizard. Greatest thing I've heard today. Also Paul London's part may disprove him getting fired over smiling.
Well he did change the wrestling game forever
Why does everyone think Paul was fired over the smiling situation 😂😂
@d.52555 right? He's only said he didn't get fired for that about a million times.
@@jamesb1988 also this is an insult to wizards, he’s no Gandalf. Saruman tho…
he wasn’t fired for smiling get you’re facts right
London is so intelligent and such a good talker. You can see why WWE had no idea what to do with him.
It's not just his intelligence. It's because Vince has a big man fetish. Paul and Brian didn't fit that "mold". I have a personal training friend of mine who i workout with who got a try out with the company. And he told that's EXACTLY the reason why guys like Paul and Brian don't go far. Rey Mysterio did because he was already over huge when he made his move to the company. Plus, his family lineage in this business. But if you look at great wrestlers like Dean Malenko etc...they never went far in the WWE. They were treated better in WCW because they at least had a substantial cruiserweight division. Yes WWE had a lightheavyweight division but it didn't last long now did it. That's one of the things they ABSOLUTELY should bring back today. Considering the guys on the roster right now are FAR smaller then they were back in the 90's and early 2000's.
He is logical..and sounds like those on the inside do not connect well with his logic. Too much into control.
@@tomtalker2000if u bring back the cruiserweight division right now then who would compete for the world title? Since everyone is small like u said lol it makes no sesnse to bring the cruiserweight division back cuz everyone is a cruiserweight now
I regret not watching him work when he was in the wwe. He’s an interesting individual with a very high intellect.
Jason doing Vince’s calm but still angry voice…
Ok yas… Okay? Okay pal? I lied. 😂
4:15 vince got that pat patterson energy..
Big, big ⚡🌪️
The small Sid impression was on point
Yes it was 😂 I know we're live!!
Holy fuck why the hell were all these guys absolutely fucking hilarious man I'm bawling over here
Sensation does some great impressions man! Vince was funny. 😂 The low and high voice he had and the stone cold was literally perfect. If they did an audio comparison I bet it would extremely close to Austin's.
Jumping Jim looked great..I love his interviews..this pod is growing on me.
The first interview makes me love Paul London so 😂
13:13 omg Stevie does a good dreamer impression
Jason is the best but every time I hear someone do a Vince impression it's always so spot on.
Great to Hear from Stevie Richards. I met Stevie at The Elks Lodge in Queens Nyc in 1997. Great Show. Thanks for this Great Podcast.
00:01 Ex WWE wrestlers discuss the intimidating nature of Vince McMahon.
02:02 Ex WWE wrestlers share strange encounters with Vince McMahon.
06:20 Former WWE wrestlers recall confrontations with Vince McMahon over their in-ring style
08:42 Disagreement over using finishers
13:25 Ex WWE wrestlers discuss challenges working under Vince McMahon
15:34 Ex WWE wrestler shares experience of being released by Vince McMahon
19:55 Former wrestler shares an interesting interaction with Vince McMahon.
22:04 Kurt Angle wanted to retire after WrestleMania and requested to be put with John Cena
25:40 Wrestler suing Vince McMahon over royalties
27:39 Issues with Vince McMahon's business practices
31:45 Multiple ex WWE wrestlers discuss their experiences with Vince McMahon
33:51 Ex-WWE wrestlers share their experience of working with Vince McMahon
Crafted by Merlin AI.
Brian Hebner went full Milton from Office Space lol when talking to Vince 😂😂😂Vince is definitely the Bill Lumbergh of wrestling
I am Glad Maven Mentioned this channel, this video made me laugh so hard.
I always think Rene is laying down😂
😭
Vicne was a mafia boss.nobody told him what to do no wonder he did crazy things
Except the World Wildlife Fund
Who's Vicne?
I can totally see dreamer moving exactly like that
Jason Sensation! I forgot about that guy. Talented like a mofo. He should have his own show or something with those impressions.
I know one wrestler that wouldn't put up with Vince if he had stayed because Vince couldn't control him and I'm talking about New Jack. I remember that interview he had years ago.
You mean the one-dimensional crackhead who couldn’t work and only had success in ECW wouldn’t make it in WWE? Color me shocked.
I met Simon Gotch at a local show once. Nicest guy ever.
Who is sensation and why is he so funny and likeable
He does impressions. He played Owen Hart during DX’s blackface promo
His name is Jason Sensation his impressions are amazing
Yeah Jason is hilarious
He's NOT a nugget!!!
His impressions of Owen, Shawn and Bret were hilarious
Killer Bees were cool team before demolition became popular so that makes sense backstage conflict ended them prematurely.
Killer Bees were my favorite team back then.
Not a good week for this SSP conversation with Jeff Hardy getting his face smashed by one
Sensation really looks like Virgil these days!
Like number 1000 🤣👌 Loving the content guys, would love to see RVD and Paul London on together 🤣
Great Compilation. Thank you
Hell yes! James and Rene great Fn Video! Smash the thumbs 👍 up ⬆️
Appreciate it!!
Has Jason spoken publicly about what happened to him? I’ve seen him for several long forum interviews but haven’t heard him open up to what happened. Seems like a traumatic event that zapped away his strength as a person. I’m probably off on this but just asking
I think when you have be SA its really up to Jason if he wants to bring it up but none of us should ever push or ask. Trauma is real and manifests it's ways into other addictions if you don't get help.
Again, I don't have any knowledge regarding this, but feel we should leave this topic alone.
Like if Jason needs to give you an explanation
Whatever it was, it was something to do with Kevin Fertig/Thorn.
@@louio are you sped? I never asked for one, just asked if it’s been discussed
@@IOUZIP stop with the uprighteousness brother love, I asked if it had been discussed, not encouraging anyone to say anything new
They dont see you as a liability if they make you the GM of Raw.
In concerns with Paul London being told not to do 450s, when Vince told him ‘we should make an exception for you?’ as soon as I heard that, if Paul would have said ‘I’ll do it 100 times in front of you to show me land it perfect each time’ and I bet he’d have let him prove it!
What an epic story that would have made!
to me, kidman was buried cuz his GF was hot and he was a WCW guy.
Maybe you did the shooting star press better, I didn't watch wrestling at the time, but kidman had the best Shooting Star Press back in the day, and it was awesome in WCW
Sensation is hilarious "Fire em now!"
Between calling Vince a scary fucking Wizard and Jason Sensation’s clips had me rolling
18:12 damn vince got him too
That's a demons 😈 energy that makes you feel like that.
That Vince impression is spot on lol
If I was Rene just seeing vince going oh yeahhhh look him beauty I be like nope I'm going this giving me Texas massacre vibes
Need a part 2
Calling your boss Sir? Yes, if you're in the forces, but at work? You might call them Mr/Miss/Mrs or even Doctor or Professor, but never sir. One of my old 'bosses' is now in the House of Lords (yes, I'm in England) and it was always first name with him.
Can't get enough of Rene's little laugh at 14:40 lol
Elbow Pads|Knee Pads|Taped Wrists|MMA Style Gloves Past Present Future
Great stuff! Great guests!
These are interesting stories but Vince was right some of these moves have been done before and they failed horribly he's been running this business from way back and knows which arena moves should not be performed because of the dangers that they presented before
I’m just over here marking out over a Brian Hebner appearance. You all remember how his body would somehow go 5 feet in the air when he counted a match to 3 😂
we dont hire talent we create it, the greatest lie ever told to actual talented wrestlers
Rene,He(Brunzell) had another with Heartbreak kid...instant classic & he could've beat Michaels time he wanted.
Brian Hefner looks like he been through hell.
Actually, Vince was right, safety is more a priority over high spots for a pop, in a Fortune 500 company. Ironically everyone did copy it (as Vince foresaw)
01 vs 01 02 vs 02 03 vs 03 04 vs 04 Past Present Future
Universe Mode Past Present Future
Jason Sensation has Aged HORRIBLY.
Looks like a creature from like the Upside Down or something 😮 !!!
@@decollector95not hating, l still think the guy is super talented and funny as hell.
That bald look doesn’t look good on him but it’s probably not his fault 😂
@@decollector95gotcha 👍
When I say Vince is a prick, I get called a “mArK”. Now who’s laughing? To hell with everyone who ever defended Vince. I’ve known he was a freaky prick for decades. The fact that those who didn’t outwardly state the same shit I did, pretends to be surprised, is total bullshit.
Did Vince poop on any of them or was that just the office help?
Hey guys I clicked the link to the val cal interview nothing came up when will the video be up on patreon I was looking forward to that
Good shit pal!
Foreshadowing from Jason Sensation. The Nostradamus of Pro Wrestling.
How the hell did someone jump off a top rope and not break paul londons eye socket and i got mine broken by a punch?
Paul london was buried. Why did he allow justin gabriel to do it years later
I shouldnt be laughing at any of these stories 😭
AWA was the Remco Co.
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Look what happened to Brock after trying the shooting star lol
A young Paul London in todays world would definitely dominate AEW and TNA.
almost time to get kurt angle back on, , as well s Charlie has,, mark jindrax, Jake the snake, kid cash, mike coda, and br
It was Vince shooting on wrestlers that got him into trouble.
Is that Simon Gotch at 14min in?
This might come to years of gathering information from potential hundreds of people coming forward
Vince is so fucked he might die before this hits trial
I think I would have lasted about 20 minutes in this company.... vince would've been cussed out real quick
Calm down tough guy 😂
Not forgiving any bad deeds of his as only God can but it must have been hard when everyone is scared to talk to you like a normal person. Regardless of how his outward appearance came off. Blessings to all life.
i’m trying to find impression wheee he goes: “there nailing me to the fn cross”
when vince was getting grilled can’t find the part
René you did a great job with your gimmick because I hated you. 🤣
I've started watching you and Maven on UA-cam, and you guys are pretty good dudes in my book.💪
That Sensation guy was so damn annoying.
Such a Shediac Acadian accent. I believe you know my cousin Newf.
Brian co host is Jimmy kordieras former ref on there podcast
JASON SENSATION is a LEGEND!!
What did he mean when he looked at him and said "he's gonna puke" i thought that was from the dude called puke or whatever.
'No more 450'
I side with Vince about Paul London wanting to the Shooting star press, that setup has to be on point, if something off things can go terribly wrong. So Mcmahon was looking out for his wrestlers and avoiding a lawsuit
He let Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar do it countless of times..
@@kenrickkahn lol never after Wrestlemania
It was Vince's company back then.
@@kenrickkahncountless? You're moronic
I never seen Kurt to a shooting star press
@@kenrickkahn
16:19
Damn season 2, bro
Wow if grown men were this scared of Vince imagine the women he graped. They were probably scared shitless.
And rey is going to start doing it !!!!! Lol
you should inteviw , someone from the bloodline , lance or zilla etc
Let's go vince
17:19 LOL
Knowing what we know now about vince and punishing people for saying now i wouldnt be suprised if vince ordered the death clothesline that london took that nearly killed him 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah but you got to understand guys were getting hurt because of the move
Heb sounds like hes just a lil to soft for the business just fucking ask him the question “yo vinny wtf are they calling me tonight?” How hard is that idc if he gets mad “you mad homie? Shidd me vs you tonight in that ring” 🤣
Interview violent j
Yes!
So he didn’t want guys doing the move bc people had recently been hurt?! That’s a horrible reason to be mad at someone
3:44
I get vince is a POS but if he was so bad then why did all these guys stay for as long as as they did. And everyone is coming out of the woodwork saying they knew vince was a monster are pieces of shit too for not saying anything when those checks came every 2 weeks. So its cool vince is a monster as long as you get paid?
Brother, testify!
Love hearing these stories but can’t help but think they are embellishing some. I mean, c’mon bruh, you didn’t get a standing ovation from the boys after a velocity match 🤣. These dudes love to talk tough now but were scared to death of VKM in real life and would have never said these things to him… but hard to defend VKM after those allegations. Dude is sick in the head 🤦🏼♂️
I agree fabrication is what they do to sell the stories over
Cowards. All of them are Cowards. None of them had a single thing to say while Vince McMahon was around and running the show. Now that he's gone they're all piling on. Bruno tried to expose this crap in the late 80s and early 90s, and the top voices in the business hung him out to dry and remained silent.
interviw icp or viloent j
These stories crack me up and I’m not sticking up for Vince, but after awhile, with the exception of Kurt - who didn’t even talk bad of Vince, all these dudes were jobbers and probably have held a grudge for awhile. I mean I remember the Killer Bees back in the 80’s but saying the reason you’re not in the HOF is because of a 12k lawsuit from the 80’s is insane. Lot of these dudes just salty they weren’t Stone Cold, Hogan or Rock.
This is so silly. The first two stories make Vince sound great. He wasn’t rude to hebner - he was nice, made a quick decision and moved on! As if Vince can spend 15 min worrying about the ref’s name! lol. As to the London doing the shooting star… well sure maybe Paul can do it and should be allied to, but Vince was trying to prevent the business from going aew… and that looks pretty damn good now. We all know Kidman messed some people up. Look at what Guevara did to hardy this weekend. And Vince was right… now we have a million shooting star plus three twists and guys are getting hurt a lot.
Look at all this stupid shit herb abrams junior( TK) Books and has all the boys doing these stupid ass spots and getting hurt. For years I always wandered what would happen if somebody from the Meltzer message boards was able to buy a wrestling company and now I know because TK Was a mark from the message boards. He books all these crazy a** matches. And he looks at his wrestlers has nothing more than e
Interchangeable toys.
Lucha Libre mentality