The fact that charging overnight is not recommended is kind of unfortunate. Like with charging a phone, it's usually the most practical time to be charging keep it. Also, most electric cars have an option to set a maximum state of charge by percentage. I feel like this should almost be a necessary feature for both cars and pevs.
Cars are a lot more expensive. They aren't saying you can't charge to 100%; just that 80% will make it last longer. Solution is to put a mechanical timer on it for overnight.
What are considered extreme temperatures? Since I live and work in Vegas, we get temperatures of up to 115 degrees and sometimes even higher during the summer. I bought my V2 in november of last year, so it hasn’t seen these temperatures yet… my Hiboy S2 Pro saw it’s first summer in 23’ and I never had an issue of it overheating….
That's all good info. I wish the system would have a configurable voltage stop point for charging, or a configurable voltage alarm. Also, these would be much easier if they reported average cell voltage instead of total voltage. Since total voltage depends upon how many batteries are in the pack, and that varies by model.
Thank you for your feedback! These are excellent suggestions, and as the software for scooters becomes more sophisticated -- so will the battery and our ability to understand the vehicle's voltage/performance.
My advice: charge your battery from empty to full and mark down the time and voltage when you first start, next you mark down the time at each voltage. So when it hits 49 volts you mark the time ,when it hits 50 volts you mark the time, when it hits 51 volts you mark the time, so on and so forth until it's full. This way you will know how long it will take to charge the battery from any voltage to full. Next all you has to do is buy a wall timer and set it accordingly each time you charge your battery. This way you don't have to worry about your battery overcharging and exploding. You also don't have to sit next to it and babysit it, And for all you people who want to charge overnight you can do this as well ......safely
If its UL certified, there is no excuse that they dont make these things safe to charge overnight. Thousands of people are buying these things, and most of them are not going to deep dive into how to charge its battery--they are going to plug it in and leave it overnight like they do their phone.
I use a floor fan to cool down the battery and motor if they’re hot. Sometimes I’ll use battery powered electric blower. I often feel for the temperature of controller, battery & motor to gauge running behavior while riding. I never top off battery until right before riding. Always maintain charge between 50-75% when not in use. Sometimes closer to 75% if I know I’ll be using bike or scooter the next day etc. This makes for faster “top off” and keeps electron tension moderate. 😁
I always charge to 100% everytime but only just minutes before riding. Not charging to 100% is the main cause of imbalanced cells. The main goal with scooters etc is to not leave the battery fully charged for to long. You get 500 charges before you loose battery health, and I can guarantee that your scooter will be long sold off before then, and that can take quite a few years.
Correct - we're saying you do not need to regularly charge to 100% before riding. Given that there are different battery configurations/capacities, the life cycle/# of charge cycles will depend on that, how well you've stored and cared for the battery over time, etc. Our models have batteries that are replaceable, so you can extend the lifespan of your scooter (if you don't want to buy a new one every year) 😅
Noted! So you'd like to see the voltmeter installed on the EMOVE RoadRunner? The RoadRunner Pro has the larger TFT display w/ voltage readout, but that would be a great upgrade for the base RoadRunner.
i take care of all opf mine i have 7 scooters i use the in a rotation so the battery reamins healthy i always charge too 1010% but i will use the scooter over a week 2 week period so its always in prime condition , if i store them for a few weeks or a month or 2 i have the battery above 50% never 100% , i have a fully charged scooter now i seen i have 2 bars left on my other one that i use today so that will go on charge and i will use the one that is fully charged while the others are above 50% ready too be used or being fixed.
I think this helped me make my decision not to buy the wolf King gtr scooter. Would have been fun and my first but batteries don't last long and no one talks about after a few years of use. Kinda like an iPhone 8 in today's time. Eventually the battery will be shot.
I keep my battery between 70% to 85% when not using it and every 8 or so rides I'll drain the battery all the way down and charge it back up with a slow charge!
Discharging all the way down is very damaging to the battery and has no benefit. That's an outdated practice from back when we used NICAD chemistry batteries, and it has no place with LIION batteries.
Main problem is people making they own batteries resellers making ones from dead ones and using the wrong chargers that’s where all the fires and bans come from
Absolutely! The unfortunate accidents that have happened are often with batteries that are damaged or resold in the market. The more you know about the origin of your vehicle, the better understanding you have of its safety! Thanks for watching.
I was ready to pull the trigger on the Apollo Phantom but after watching this, and other videos of these electric lithium-ion batteries exploding and catching fire, I changed my mind. You spend all that cash for what is supposed to be a decent scooter then the battery might explode on you if you over charge? A new battery is super expensive too. Also, even expensive scooters are not waterproof either. You would think for the cash these greedy college entrepreneurs are charging, they would provide electronic overcharging protection, at least. I'll stick to my gas-powered scooter. Cheers.
The fact that charging overnight is not recommended is kind of unfortunate. Like with charging a phone, it's usually the most practical time to be charging keep it.
Also, most electric cars have an option to set a maximum state of charge by percentage. I feel like this should almost be a necessary feature for both cars and pevs.
Cars are a lot more expensive. They aren't saying you can't charge to 100%; just that 80% will make it last longer. Solution is to put a mechanical timer on it for overnight.
What are considered extreme temperatures? Since I live and work in Vegas, we get temperatures of up to 115 degrees and sometimes even higher during the summer. I bought my V2 in november of last year, so it hasn’t seen these temperatures yet… my Hiboy S2 Pro saw it’s first summer in 23’ and I never had an issue of it overheating….
That's all good info. I wish the system would have a configurable voltage stop point for charging, or a configurable voltage alarm. Also, these would be much easier if they reported average cell voltage instead of total voltage. Since total voltage depends upon how many batteries are in the pack, and that varies by model.
Thank you for your feedback! These are excellent suggestions, and as the software for scooters becomes more sophisticated -- so will the battery and our ability to understand the vehicle's voltage/performance.
My advice: charge your battery from empty to full and mark down the time and voltage when you first start, next you mark down the time at each voltage. So when it hits 49 volts you mark the time ,when it hits 50 volts you mark the time, when it hits 51 volts you mark the time, so on and so forth until it's full. This way you will know how long it will take to charge the battery from any voltage to full.
Next all you has to do is buy a wall timer and set it accordingly each time you charge your battery.
This way you don't have to worry about your battery overcharging and exploding.
You also don't have to sit next to it and babysit it, And for all you people who want to charge overnight you can do this as well ......safely
Advice not understand tell me shorter
What do you think of bangsheng batteries which teewing uses
If its UL certified, there is no excuse that they dont make these things safe to charge overnight.
Thousands of people are buying these things, and most of them are not going to deep dive into how to charge its battery--they are going to plug it in and leave it overnight like they do their phone.
my main question is... InMotion RS scooter, does it have any scenario that happen to that name brand at all?
Im getting my scooter soon
I should always charge it to 80%? And when i finish riding i should wait like 15 minutes before i recharge it again?
I use a floor fan to cool down the battery and motor if they’re hot. Sometimes I’ll use battery powered electric blower. I often feel for the temperature of controller, battery & motor to gauge running behavior while riding. I never top off battery until right before riding. Always maintain charge between 50-75% when not in use. Sometimes closer to 75% if I know I’ll be using bike or scooter the next day etc. This makes for faster “top off” and keeps electron tension moderate. 😁
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My son rides it to school and back and the battery dies and it’s a new scooter with a mile range of 21 and all he runs it for is 12 miles round trip.
My scooter have a battery capacity setting in the app that u can change it from 5 a.h to 24a.h what's the best setting to the battery life?
that makes no sense.
I always charge to 100% everytime but only just minutes before riding. Not charging to 100% is the main cause of imbalanced cells. The main goal with scooters etc is to not leave the battery fully charged for to long. You get 500 charges before you loose battery health, and I can guarantee that your scooter will be long sold off before then, and that can take quite a few years.
Correct - we're saying you do not need to regularly charge to 100% before riding. Given that there are different battery configurations/capacities, the life cycle/# of charge cycles will depend on that, how well you've stored and cared for the battery over time, etc. Our models have batteries that are replaceable, so you can extend the lifespan of your scooter (if you don't want to buy a new one every year) 😅
@@VoroMotors but the price of most new batteries is nearly the cost of the scooter.
How to keep them safe without caught them on fire not in the house only the garage
Seems golden rule just b moderate in ur charging usage, & environment attitude!!;)😅
tutorial on how to add a voltmeter on certain scooters without one? Example: roadrunner( it only has bars, which is unreliable)
Noted! So you'd like to see the voltmeter installed on the EMOVE RoadRunner? The RoadRunner Pro has the larger TFT display w/ voltage readout, but that would be a great upgrade for the base RoadRunner.
@@VoroMotors Yeah. even a upgrade for the display where it shows the voltage would be a nice touch as well
i take care of all opf mine i have 7 scooters i use the in a rotation so the battery reamins healthy i always charge too 1010% but i will use the scooter over a week 2 week period so its always in prime condition , if i store them for a few weeks or a month or 2 i have the battery above 50% never 100% , i have a fully charged scooter now i seen i have 2 bars left on my other one that i use today so that will go on charge and i will use the one that is fully charged while the others are above 50% ready too be used or being fixed.
Excellent battery storage/use practices! Thank you for the rundown of how that works for you and how frequently you ride/charge.
Question how hot and how cold you shouldn't charge it
Below 0°C/32°F or hotter than 45°C/113°F is not recommended - these extremes can be dangerous.
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I think this helped me make my decision not to buy the wolf King gtr scooter. Would have been fun and my first but batteries don't last long and no one talks about after a few years of use. Kinda like an iPhone 8 in today's time. Eventually the battery will be shot.
I keep my battery between 70% to 85% when not using it and every 8 or so rides I'll drain the battery all the way down and charge it back up with a slow charge!
Discharging all the way down is very damaging to the battery and has no benefit. That's an outdated practice from back when we used NICAD chemistry batteries, and it has no place with LIION batteries.
@@Schlaegel no man trust me even the owner of Minimotors said to do that every 8 to 10 rides run it down it resets the BMS
Main problem is people making they own batteries resellers making ones from dead ones and using the wrong chargers that’s where all the fires and bans come from
Absolutely! The unfortunate accidents that have happened are often with batteries that are damaged or resold in the market. The more you know about the origin of your vehicle, the better understanding you have of its safety! Thanks for watching.
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I was ready to pull the trigger on the Apollo Phantom but after watching this, and other videos of these electric lithium-ion batteries exploding and catching fire, I changed my mind. You spend all that cash for what is supposed to be a decent scooter then the battery might explode on you if you over charge? A new battery is super expensive too. Also, even expensive scooters are not waterproof either. You would think for the cash these greedy college entrepreneurs are charging, they would provide electronic overcharging protection, at least. I'll stick to my gas-powered scooter. Cheers.