Fixing Apple's Engineering in an Hour

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  • Опубліковано 20 чер 2020
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  • @alliedawareness2202
    @alliedawareness2202 4 роки тому +3099

    "Sir, the MacBook isn't complying with our thermal standards"
    Linus - "Drown it"

    • @curiouslamp2841
      @curiouslamp2841 4 роки тому +19

      macbook with no brim

    • @ibear2554
      @ibear2554 4 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @prateekbhatia958
      @prateekbhatia958 3 роки тому

      Joel Erro Grau you mean genius at a Genius Bar 😏

    • @nadamuchu
      @nadamuchu 3 роки тому +9

      12:33 "Or we could put it directly into frozen water. Big brain time."
      Shh, no one tell Linus that frozen water is called ice.

    • @alliedawareness2202
      @alliedawareness2202 3 роки тому +1

      @@curiouslamp2841 brim WITH NO MACBOOK
      IT"S ALL BRIM!

  • @MidnightBloomDev
    @MidnightBloomDev 4 роки тому +774

    Apple: that's wireless cooling

    • @PyPylia
      @PyPylia 4 роки тому +23

      Your pfp and username fits perfectly with that comment.

    • @Talia.777
      @Talia.777 4 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @phattacorider
      @phattacorider 4 роки тому +13

      Just download a bigger heatsink 😁

    • @JulliusTheGreat
      @JulliusTheGreat 4 роки тому +6

      Available 2050 for only 999$

    • @illdeletethismusic
      @illdeletethismusic 4 роки тому

      @J Thorsson i"d rather call their looks dull to the point of being easy to tune out
      the reason they are ahead in that category is that there isn"t much else one can reduce about the look to make it even more forgetable

  • @alistairmacrae4993
    @alistairmacrae4993 4 роки тому +2306

    It’s a shame they didn’t unplug the little fan just to see if it is actually doing anything for the computer.

    • @fakename287
      @fakename287 4 роки тому +495

      Knowing apple, unplugging the fan would make the entire thing crash

    • @svampebob007
      @svampebob007 4 роки тому +534

      @@fakename287 indeed, it would probably disable and lock any Iphone in a 20km radius just to be sure because apple knows best :)

    • @Anthonypython
      @Anthonypython 4 роки тому +52

      I'm not sure on a mac mobo, but on a pc they won't turn on usually with-out a cpu fan plugged in.

    • @roosafeedkoya8668
      @roosafeedkoya8668 3 роки тому +47

      @@Anthonypython my laptop had a fan failure, it gave BIOS error message and automatically shutdown in some 10-15 seconds, but it also had an option to ignore it and take the risk

    • @petermarshall1634
      @petermarshall1634 3 роки тому +29

      Many laptops refuse to boot with the fan unplugged but nothing happens if you unplug it after the post screen

  • @UnsettlingDwarf
    @UnsettlingDwarf 3 роки тому +652

    3:08 he literally called it. Now that the M1 is out. A lot of cooling issues is resolved. Well done Linus.

  • @BillyMartin4Life
    @BillyMartin4Life 4 роки тому +742

    somewhere in the distance, I hear a voice saying "as always, i hope you learned something"

  • @yanuehara8017
    @yanuehara8017 4 роки тому +1584

    Linus to Louis Rossmann: hey, so we have this MacBook with some slight liquid damage...

    • @Xeit
      @Xeit 4 роки тому +64

      Louis will cry while watching this video.

    • @superusermode
      @superusermode 4 роки тому +40

      Louis Rossmann pointed awhile ago how bad of a design this was.

    • @BudooMasterChandlerSupreme
      @BudooMasterChandlerSupreme 4 роки тому +5

      i could deffs see a fun colab from it

    • @czarPROstock
      @czarPROstock 4 роки тому +6

      "Get the FUCK out of my STORE"
      Louis got a soundboard for this :)

    • @MTTech
      @MTTech 4 роки тому +2

      @@superusermode Yup! Here's the video: ua-cam.com/video/iiCBYAP_Sgg/v-deo.html

  • @SeemaSharma-fh4ws
    @SeemaSharma-fh4ws 3 роки тому +2044

    Now that the M1 Macs are here...seeing their performance gains...your speculation seems true...🙄🤔

    • @luisramos3639
      @luisramos3639 3 роки тому +41

      Only sorta. Cuz they still beat any Windows machine on Intel chips

    • @maximusgladi8or
      @maximusgladi8or 3 роки тому +131

      @@luisramos3639 haha

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie 3 роки тому +130

      @@luisramos3639 with in there class, they get shat on by gaming laptop even ones around the same price(gpus are a bitch).
      But AMD is fucking everyone up so I doesn't really matter

    • @colinoscopyyyy8104
      @colinoscopyyyy8104 3 роки тому +1

      Their

    • @SeemaSharma-fh4ws
      @SeemaSharma-fh4ws 3 роки тому +3

      @@colinoscopyyyy8104 👍

  • @gavinendsley
    @gavinendsley 3 роки тому +1441

    2:51
    After the release of apple's M1 chip, can confirm this theory was true.

    • @c0coa187
      @c0coa187 3 роки тому +17

      I was about to say the same thing lmao

    • @FaZeJBPZ
      @FaZeJBPZ 3 роки тому +7

      facts 😂😂

    • @MvsG18
      @MvsG18 3 роки тому +5

      I was going to say the same

    • @sahin8780
      @sahin8780 3 роки тому +7

      One of the greatest companies of the world, is trying to trick their customers

    • @SadMarinersFan
      @SadMarinersFan 3 роки тому +62

      @@sahin8780 are you just now picking up on this? Because remember when the IPhone 4 came out and you could block the antenna by holding it in the most comfortable way you would hold a phone and Apple's response was "LOL. Just don't hold it there".

  • @antidonkey
    @antidonkey 4 роки тому +3325

    I find it funny that a product called the "Air" has airflow and cooling issues.

    • @Techranology
      @Techranology 4 роки тому +7

      antidonkey lol

    • @imho4990
      @imho4990 4 роки тому +8

      The film perfectly proves that Apple did it well. This processor has no greater performance, will help much better cooling.

    • @kavishkabartlett4261
      @kavishkabartlett4261 4 роки тому +84

      @@imho4990 what are u talking about the processor has wayyy better performance potential - the CPU is power limited. Even if you ignore the fact that its power limited, they improved performance by 14% through better cooling. Soo how exactly did apple do it right???

    • @nivenisrael1565
      @nivenisrael1565 4 роки тому +15

      @@imho4990 it does have more room for improvement but it is limited because the computer thinks its still working with the bad cooling setup but it still gets a 14% improvement despite that

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 роки тому +34

      It'S called "Air", because it's all air and no substance.

  • @Beregorn88
    @Beregorn88 4 роки тому +783

    10:15 "we are still under 75 degrees" "what the hell?"
    it's surprising what you could achieve with an actual heat sink making actual contact with the cpu...

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 4 роки тому +40

      That actually fixes the biggest dealbreaker that pushed me back from the Macbook Air. Instead of grinding the heatsink like they did, I would jsut remove it and the heat insulator and put a bunch of Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut thermal pads there to let it dissipate its heat to the whole bottom. I don't care if it gets hot in my lap or not, we're not running synthetic benchmarks all the time on our laptops anyway. When doing normal stuff it shouldn't be a problem.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 4 роки тому +61

      @@utubekullanicisi the real issue is, if they just connected it to the fan thats already there, itd run fine. 1 heat pipe would fix it completely

    • @iurigrang
      @iurigrang 4 роки тому +15

      @@utubekullanicisi yeah, like, how many people are video editing on their lap or something?
      people do cpu intensive stuff on laptops on tables. Which apple should know, since it seems to think only pros can justify buying a desktop.

    • @FloatingOnAZephyr
      @FloatingOnAZephyr 4 роки тому +2

      @@utubekullanicisi Of course, Apple can't design a laptop that way. They'd be sued.

    • @malisa71
      @malisa71 4 роки тому +2

      @@utubekullanicisi That is not how thermodynamics work. There is a hard limit on how much you can stack something like cabonaut thermal pads.The CPU will die before the pads can pull of the heat away.

  • @ferna182
    @ferna182 3 роки тому +485

    2:50 they just introduced the new macbook air as "2X FASTER THAN THE OLD MODEL!" so yes that's EXACTLY what they did.

    • @kamo7293
      @kamo7293 3 роки тому +26

      damn linus was right

    • @killerkoalas3573
      @killerkoalas3573 3 роки тому +4

      Except it’s been pretty much intel sandbagging themselves

    • @ferna182
      @ferna182 3 роки тому +79

      @@killerkoalas3573 sandbagging implies YOU are hiding performance. Intel isn't hiding performance... If anything, they're running their chips redline because they're desperate to show they have performance. It's APPLE sandbagging the cpu by forcing it to thermal throttle way early.

    • @Kristibek
      @Kristibek 2 роки тому

      Linus knew

    • @user-fr2fm3ri3w
      @user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому +1

      @@ferna182 intel lied they would be on 7nm in 2016 which never happened. This is both intels fault for not being able to reliever the chip and apples fault for not changing the design.

  • @sidewinder15599
    @sidewinder15599 4 роки тому +62

    When doing precision depth, use the knee (z-axis) of the milling machine. You'll have more control if it's working right.

  • @doge5603
    @doge5603 4 роки тому +1197

    "50c° can burn you in 1 minute"
    My macbook air from 2011: are you challenging me?

    • @frederick3811
      @frederick3811 4 роки тому +7

      @Void Astra the only fix is undervolt

    • @anotheraggieburneraccount
      @anotheraggieburneraccount 4 роки тому +2

      My 2014 HP Envy laptop: 80. Best I can do.

    • @hailgod1
      @hailgod1 4 роки тому

      @Void Astra my mid 2011 air was pinned at 100 degrees

    • @decoder55killer
      @decoder55killer 4 роки тому +2

      Well, the great majority of pc and laptops run at that temperature...

    • @codebraker12
      @codebraker12 4 роки тому

      my macbook pro 13" mid 2010 reachs 100 C somethimes, most of the time 85 C

  • @rendelduph
    @rendelduph 4 роки тому +599

    ' i can wiggle it all i want, but it can't get any further in'

  • @imaginaut
    @imaginaut 3 роки тому +47

    2:54 HE PREDICTED M1's presentation 4 months in advance

    • @shiskeyoffles
      @shiskeyoffles 3 роки тому +9

      Wow. And people call Linus hater. He understands Apple more than all of them 😂

    • @user-fr2fm3ri3w
      @user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому +1

      @@shiskeyoffles his audience is mouth breathing pc gamer virgins so he has to pretend he hates apple even though he literally had an Apple Watch and a hidden iPhone somewhere lol.

  • @araybeezy1653
    @araybeezy1653 3 роки тому +35

    "supposed to be reasonable do it at home option"
    just needed a bridgeport mill for like $10k

  • @M.r..R.i.c.e.
    @M.r..R.i.c.e. 4 роки тому +810

    "what if apple is sandbagging the MacBooks so that when they introduce the arm based MacBooks it'll be at half the temperature"
    Doesn't sound too far off what they would do considering that fact that they severely underclocked the Apple II GS to make the Macintosh look good

    • @AndiKola
      @AndiKola 4 роки тому +87

      Wait, you're saying that they haven't learned anything in 30 years? Yeah sounds plausible.

    • @babyUFO.
      @babyUFO. 4 роки тому +5

      lol. There will NEVER be an ARM Apple laptop

    • @anandsuralkar2947
      @anandsuralkar2947 4 роки тому +36

      @@AndiKola they have learned that yes this practice works and most apple users are dumb they fall for this trick everytime

    • @sidesplitter9497
      @sidesplitter9497 4 роки тому +97

      @@babyUFO. this shall not age well, my friend

    • @Allexz
      @Allexz 4 роки тому +28

      @@babyUFO. Oh boy, Apple aside, you have no idea that ARM will fully replace x86 in time, then?

  • @xe5433
    @xe5433 4 роки тому +8373

    MacBooks have two fans: the CPU fan and the fanboy that owns it.

  • @nonnnth
    @nonnnth 4 роки тому +32

    7:40 well that makes sense now. When they announced Apple Silicon MacBook Air, they can say how much better it is compared to Intel MacBook Air with the same design.

  • @dudenarima2528
    @dudenarima2528 4 роки тому +98

    "apple ice bucket, pre-purchase only for 199"

  • @noahhastings6145
    @noahhastings6145 4 роки тому +352

    Macbook Air*
    *Does not come with moving air. Provided air is static.

    • @scudsturm1
      @scudsturm1 4 роки тому +6

      macbook AIR, passive cooling, the fan is there so u think it is actively cooled, just to fool dumb people who buy that sh!t

    • @ilantzur02
      @ilantzur02 4 роки тому +2

      For the Air you pay a premium

    • @seshpenguin
      @seshpenguin 4 роки тому +1

      @@scudsturm1 The fan draws air over the entire motherboard (exhaust). Its still not great but atleast it's there.

    • @Silent_Shadow
      @Silent_Shadow 4 роки тому

      @@seshpenguin It's practically worthless and serves no purpose. Not a real cooling solution.

    • @Sebastian-sv3on
      @Sebastian-sv3on 4 роки тому

      @Rerin YL 1% would be a better guess

  • @sir_ahegaolord8952
    @sir_ahegaolord8952 4 роки тому +606

    Doing it like everyone else
    Apple: We dont do that here

  • @seireiart
    @seireiart 3 роки тому +18

    2:54 It turns out to be true (and it made some people angry at you for some reason.)

  • @professionalarab2502
    @professionalarab2502 4 роки тому +425

    Roses are red
    Screens give off light
    When linus says "speaking of"
    I double tap right

    • @tudbut
      @tudbut 4 роки тому +10

      Yes.

    • @guscichoski
      @guscichoski 3 роки тому +9

      Underrated

    • @vic2_o
      @vic2_o 3 роки тому +6

      Rip but honestly it's true

    • @petermarshall1634
      @petermarshall1634 3 роки тому +6

      This comnent deserves thousands of likes

    • @user-eu2mg8lw2t
      @user-eu2mg8lw2t 3 роки тому +2

      You really don't have to say that, just skip and be silent about it, do you want him to lose those sponsorship? (I am not sure if it actually can effect it, if not then go ahead and rhyme as much as you want)

  • @cgwill_2075
    @cgwill_2075 4 роки тому +368

    "we dont want the bottom of the laptop to burn you"
    my 2016 razer stealth that literally burnt my desk *looks the other direction*

    • @airbornefilip9139
      @airbornefilip9139 4 роки тому +23

      Friend used some old small thinkpad back in 2013. When he was playing CK2, at 5fps, the laptop would heat up whole 4x1m desk. :D It was fun/mildyinteresting. We were more baffled by him playing CK2 for days and days at that fps count :D

    • @BharathiChristiano
      @BharathiChristiano 4 роки тому +7

      Airborne Filip how many kilos of potatoes did your friend use to run a bloody crusader kings?

    • @airbornefilip9139
      @airbornefilip9139 4 роки тому

      @@BharathiChristiano Not even a whole one potatos. 5x speed was 1x for normal pc :D

    • @LesserpandaDE
      @LesserpandaDE 4 роки тому +1

      CGWill _ my MSI did that too....

    • @xtritonx
      @xtritonx 4 роки тому +7

      yeah my 2015 Razer Blade killed itself by heat, send it for repairs, and then when I got it back immediately started turning off during gaming because it was drawing too much power. They sent me the power brick for the bigger model.

  • @johndextersantos9541
    @johndextersantos9541 4 роки тому +1167

    The sound of Louiss Rossman screaming in the background.

    • @Billy123bobzzz
      @Billy123bobzzz 4 роки тому +22

      No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.

    • @Daddy-Samy
      @Daddy-Samy 4 роки тому +220

      @@Billy123bobzzz Wow wow wow, what the actual f..reak ? Can you please explain me how changing a short circuited capacitor with another capacitor with the same (if not better) specs is not fixing and is creating three new problems big brain ?
      Oh wait, you'll not answer I guess, like all double digit IQ people on the internet.

    • @Tater_Lord
      @Tater_Lord 4 роки тому +157

      @@Billy123bobzzz typical apple fanboy hating on Louis and his awesomeness

    • @dooopie1234
      @dooopie1234 4 роки тому +117

      Billy Bob has been reposting this on other posts 😂 bot alert

    • @DPedroBoh
      @DPedroBoh 4 роки тому +66

      Or why its a good idea to out a fuse stronger than the other components, or why the authorized repair shops wont recover data and state its impossible while pushing a new device for you to buy or lie that something cant be fixed and push you a new device. Louis is certainly no hardware engineer but i dont see he running his mouth with nonsense, he actually argues with reason.

  • @SandeepGhosh4ALL
    @SandeepGhosh4ALL 3 роки тому +94

    2:51 The conspiracy theory was accurate.

  • @mynameisfatmike6742
    @mynameisfatmike6742 4 роки тому +35

    Great content bois, this is exactly the sort of rogue engineering stuff I was hoping we'd get with Alex on the team now that he's had some time to get accustomed to all those fancy new tools and machinery

  • @LnnyOsoTo
    @LnnyOsoTo 4 роки тому +311

    I would've loved to see the fan just completely disconnected to show that it's literally having 0 effect on the computer.

    • @OdgeBodge
      @OdgeBodge 4 роки тому +27

      the computer would probably throttle 100% of the time if the fan was unplugged no matter what the temperature because software

    • @The_Keeper
      @The_Keeper 4 роки тому +34

      Then take it out of the case while its is still plugged in.
      If the cable is not long enough, get an extension. Job done.

    • @Azerkeux
      @Azerkeux 4 роки тому +25

      @@The_Keeper use a jumper with the correct resistance and you can eliminate the fan altogether

    • @aldorandomprojects2179
      @aldorandomprojects2179 4 роки тому +3

      @@Azerkeux my thoughts exactly

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 4 роки тому +1

      @@OdgeBodge they should have moved the wiring so that the fan was outside the cpu as a test.

  • @maze42d
    @maze42d 4 роки тому +2334

    Fixing Apple's engineering? That's what Louis has been doing for years

    • @drjdcool
      @drjdcool 4 роки тому +38

      Oooooooooooooooooo (imagine that gif )
      Sick burn bruh

    • @todbilegotgonbat3943
      @todbilegotgonbat3943 4 роки тому +16

      Who's Louis?

    • @Rolly369
      @Rolly369 4 роки тому +26

      nope, Louis fix them shitty as they are to punish them with longer service life… what a missery (as heself said)

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka 4 роки тому +56

      Louis turns them into PCs and then misrepresents them to his customers as Macs /s

    • @nanoprehistoric
      @nanoprehistoric 4 роки тому +7

      Why you guys praising him? lol

  • @jacksuchi
    @jacksuchi 3 роки тому +14

    Well Since the ARM-based MacBook is out now, I guess apple was truly sandbagging their intel based product for arm based products looking better.

  • @matthew8077
    @matthew8077 4 роки тому +34

    i cant take this seriously with the spongebob music in the background lmao

  • @aljazjeram1071
    @aljazjeram1071 4 роки тому +246

    So happy to see Alex playing with his tools.

    • @myfavbuckets
      @myfavbuckets 4 роки тому +11

      *toys

    • @scarceorange3359
      @scarceorange3359 4 роки тому +2

      Andrew Jacob what a tool

    • @JZ-vg6ke
      @JZ-vg6ke 4 роки тому +1

      @Corlar u figure it out soon

    • @kozygeorg
      @kozygeorg 4 роки тому +1

      You have 69 likes. Sorry but no more likea for you again

    • @CAndrewK
      @CAndrewK 4 роки тому

      Alex OnlyFans when?

  • @RobbiePOV
    @RobbiePOV 4 роки тому +1787

    Apple: makes badly cooled laptops repeatedly and doesn't fix them
    Linus: Fine, I'll do it myself

    • @DarkPortall
      @DarkPortall 4 роки тому +23

      this is on purpose im pretty sure ”buy the pro model for better performance cause this one sucks”

    • @jjpark98
      @jjpark98 4 роки тому +26

      @@DarkPortall But the problem is that the Pro models ALSO thermal throttle. So you're kinda SOL

    • @kongchho
      @kongchho 4 роки тому +7

      Hey you think I have time to worry about thermal performance? I'm busy buying MacBooks.

    • @hwgeek86
      @hwgeek86 4 роки тому +7

      Wireless cooling is the Future! by Apple ;-)

    • @tiocybot
      @tiocybot 4 роки тому

      what are you poor or something? *turns around* Hey! Everyone! This guy's poor!

  • @wolfffiedler8424
    @wolfffiedler8424 4 роки тому +4

    Love this video. Linus is such a great performer, natural camera presence. Wish I had that.

  • @InfVR
    @InfVR 3 роки тому +48

    I think Apple has actually a reason for this. You see when apple announced their arm chips they said it runs 50% faster right? Well if you have a thermal throttling Intel macbook and compare it to a nicely cooked arm chip macbook then they are right.

  • @AllieStrange
    @AllieStrange 4 роки тому +834

    Linus's dad joke count is just increasing exponentially at this point lol.

    • @eatshamahsan1783
      @eatshamahsan1783 4 роки тому +33

      It's the beard

    • @jyro1072
      @jyro1072 4 роки тому +6

      of course, if you look like a daddy you should act as one

    • @goodboi42
      @goodboi42 4 роки тому +7

      Linus in a few days: *"B O Y"*

    • @cyko2328
      @cyko2328 4 роки тому +5

      i believe thie equation is
      jokes(x) = beard(x)^2 + dad(x) + kids

    • @JFK_Speedwagon
      @JFK_Speedwagon 4 роки тому

      the beard is making him older

  • @abhinavrobinson2310
    @abhinavrobinson2310 4 роки тому +383

    Omg its been 5 years since the water cool macbook air, it feels like yesterday... 😌

    • @dakodus9359
      @dakodus9359 4 роки тому +4

      I wasn’t the only one thinking 🤔 it😂😂

    • @kaguario
      @kaguario 4 роки тому +5

      The famous kitchen studios

    • @alstonmiller212
      @alstonmiller212 4 роки тому +9

      just macbook not macbook air

    • @moddim
      @moddim 4 роки тому +1

      alstonmiller212 it was only called the MacBook because they wanted to sell the rest of the old airs, it has nothing to do with the old MacBooks it “succeeded.” It was a 12” MacBook Air. Also no one asked.....

    • @mthlily
      @mthlily 4 роки тому +5

      They kept the tray in their inventory for 5 years, never losing track of it just for this moment in time. That's some dedication right there.

  • @Reac2
    @Reac2 2 роки тому +11

    When they were talking about submerging it into water, is it technically possible (though insane) to put the Laptop on a HUGE icecube, like 30 cms tall and the other measurements those of the bottom of the laptop? Now you add some holes throughout, the ice (from top to bottom) and put it on a drain, so molten ice can drain and surround the cube with a metal brace (to minimise shifting).

  • @ttakotube
    @ttakotube 3 роки тому +7

    Please do a similar video also for the MBP 16”! Would be really interesting to see liquid metal, undervolting, and heat transfer to the bottom plate all together, how much you could improve the well known heat / throttling / fan noise problem...

  • @WinterCharmVT
    @WinterCharmVT 4 роки тому +459

    "Man drowns MacBook to torture it into achieving higher performance"

    • @Beregorn88
      @Beregorn88 4 роки тому +9

      *water boarding

    • @Rainbow__cookie
      @Rainbow__cookie 4 роки тому +3

      *canadian man killed a macbook by watercooling it*

  • @r-riad2907
    @r-riad2907 4 роки тому +305

    "50c° can burn you in 1 minute"
    My hp laptop from 2012 with his Fire smoke : Patheric

  • @thisisaloadofbarnacles921
    @thisisaloadofbarnacles921 3 роки тому +38

    2:39 That music is from Spongebob lol
    5:28 They do it again!
    11:29 This is becoming very intentional

  • @officialusmanqureshi
    @officialusmanqureshi 3 роки тому +12

    apples cooling is like making a cake, the wet and dry ingredients are there, but they put the eggs in after baking

  • @TheMetaSD
    @TheMetaSD 4 роки тому +482

    Okay... like... you're freaking me out with you're "Conspiracy Theory" concerning the Intel vs ARM chips because I could absolutely see Apple pulling something like that.

    • @MrMaddog2004subscribe
      @MrMaddog2004subscribe 4 роки тому +3

      What conspiracy did he say

    • @TheMetaSD
      @TheMetaSD 4 роки тому +76

      @@MrMaddog2004subscribe That Apple was intentionally nerfing their performance with Intel chips so that when they make the switch to ARM , the performance with ARM will look better by comparison.

    • @BeanieBanta
      @BeanieBanta 4 роки тому +54

      I mean apple is notrious for slowing down older iPhones via software updates so people would be forced to buy a new phone, so i dont think this is too far fetched.

    • @MsMonster128
      @MsMonster128 4 роки тому +1

      Me too lol but for Ryzen, it could take them a lot more years to catch up

    • @thegamingshatt4758
      @thegamingshatt4758 4 роки тому +48

      @@MsMonster128 they don't need to be faster than ryzen, just themselves. Because they know the people that buy these laptops are pretty ignorant of anything else

  • @BeastMaster-hu4zs
    @BeastMaster-hu4zs 4 роки тому +499

    Apple: “Think different”

    • @jamesyeoman794
      @jamesyeoman794 4 роки тому +18

      Translator note: 'different' means rarted

    • @you_are_the_best2233
      @you_are_the_best2233 4 роки тому +38

      Don't think. Just buy.

    • @twanlenaerts1512
      @twanlenaerts1512 4 роки тому +14

      "Or don't think at all"

    • @Ryan-xq3kl
      @Ryan-xq3kl 4 роки тому +4

      Its surprising they would still promote thinking when they sell this shit for over 1k

    • @alextupu4716
      @alextupu4716 4 роки тому +5

      apple : lets rob retard rich kids

  • @powderedwater4742
    @powderedwater4742 4 роки тому +8

    14:31 explains why my pinky feels ice cold sometimes for no reason

  • @aidanbae6162
    @aidanbae6162 4 роки тому +11

    I managed to get the utilization to 95% instead of like 60 by replacing the thermal paste with Arctic-MX4.

  • @rogerramjet9027
    @rogerramjet9027 4 роки тому +247

    Linus: "Man I really wanted to post some crazy performance numbers today"
    If you listen hard enough you can hear Tim Apple laughing in his best Darth Vader impression.

  • @christoskaragiannis7973
    @christoskaragiannis7973 4 роки тому +142

    Louis said it best, "this is a wireless heatsink!"

  • @aidan5125
    @aidan5125 3 роки тому +5

    "I'll tell you what happened, sir. My MacBook fell out of an airplane window."
    Apple employee: "it must have fallen in an ocean, because it looks like water damage."

  • @Shahkakon
    @Shahkakon 4 роки тому

    I love these types of videos

  • @boocraftgaming
    @boocraftgaming 4 роки тому +248

    Next video: *"We Flex Taped an NH-D15 to a MacBook Air"*

    • @unkanian8371
      @unkanian8371 4 роки тому

      overcast network bro? respect

    • @IanSzalai
      @IanSzalai 4 роки тому

      i would definitely watch that

    • @boocraftgaming
      @boocraftgaming 4 роки тому

      @@unkanian8371 One of my favorite servers :)

  • @seankkg
    @seankkg 4 роки тому +153

    I love when Linus is reckless and doesn't heed warnings, it's just so good.

  • @abhishekreddy2425
    @abhishekreddy2425 4 роки тому

    Watching that 2015 Macbook Air cooling video was one of the earliest memories after subscribing to your channel...

  • @genxfree
    @genxfree 10 місяців тому

    Guys, come back soon!!! Old LTT videos keep popping on my timeline and I love them. This one is helping me to fix my intel macbook today. ❤😊 Love janking my computers and where did I learn to do that without having a heart attack? Well LTT of course! 🎉😂

  • @thomasharrick
    @thomasharrick 4 роки тому +224

    "That's 10 degrees lower. Well, not 10. But larger than 5." -- Linus Sebastian, 2020

    • @bahamut149
      @bahamut149 4 роки тому +6

      Some time I wish I could tell that kind of excuse to my wife.

    • @tacomaken3338
      @tacomaken3338 4 роки тому

      Hey, single digit public math is hard!

  • @redshirtwookiee
    @redshirtwookiee 3 роки тому

    I just wanna say I just got my first iFixIt kit and it's the one shown in this video and it's amazing. Can't believe I waited this long.

  • @dermax_hd
    @dermax_hd 3 роки тому +1

    You've been shopping on AliExpress again!
    Oh my God I absolutely love Linus and especially that video hahaha

  •  4 роки тому +385

    Don’t call it “useless fan”... Say it has “Wireless Heatpipes”! Think different

    • @tonicipriani
      @tonicipriani 4 роки тому +15

      Brought to you by the company that made the wireless anti-static bracelet.

    • @sohamray908
      @sohamray908 4 роки тому +2

      I didn’t realize that there were heat pipes that required wires?

    • @ixbreakxaway
      @ixbreakxaway 4 роки тому +2

      Next will be wireless head. No spinal cord needed!

    •  4 роки тому +1

      Soham Ray I like to call my heatpipes “Thicc boi wires” 😂

    • @alcedob.5850
      @alcedob.5850 3 роки тому

      Good for Apple they have so many wireless heatpipesboys who keep buying their products without really needing them.

  • @dumpsterdawg
    @dumpsterdawg 4 роки тому +355

    2015 ..........Insert in pan of water
    2020...........Insert in tub of water
    2025...........Insert in olympic sized swimming pool

    •  4 роки тому +3

      Linus: Hold my beer

    • @Floreals
      @Floreals 4 роки тому +5

      (Continuation)
      2030..........Insert in a Lake
      2035..........Insert in the Arctic Ocean

    • @rdmZero
      @rdmZero 4 роки тому

      240........insert in the Atlantic Ocean

    • @nightmarex1669
      @nightmarex1669 4 роки тому +1

      2040: inserts it on pluto methane ocean

    • @SimGunther
      @SimGunther 4 роки тому

      2045: insert in dry ice enclosure

  • @waiitwhaat
    @waiitwhaat 3 роки тому +1

    What it is: MacBook Air
    Under the hood: MacBook Fire
    Cooling solution: MacBook Water
    After one year: MacBook Earth

  • @realcartoongirl
    @realcartoongirl 3 роки тому +15

    "Apple, passively cooled mac sucks!"
    apple: sure here is one with a fan

  • @waverleyjournalise5757
    @waverleyjournalise5757 4 роки тому +883

    People who buy a MacBook Air be like:
    *I didn't want performance anyway* (slams bedroom door)

    • @FloatingOnAZephyr
      @FloatingOnAZephyr 4 роки тому +19

      They didn't improve the performance meaningfully, only the temps.

    • @matejhaas
      @matejhaas 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly!!!

    • @DeeSnow97
      @DeeSnow97 4 роки тому +45

      @@FloatingOnAZephyr TIL 13.7% is not meaningful... is this where you think different?

    • @chundermonky1428
      @chundermonky1428 4 роки тому

      yes
      Will Jolliff

    • @marcokrueger3399
      @marcokrueger3399 4 роки тому +48

      Funny how apple is saying: "You want a Macbook Air? Well, the CPU is not getting air at all"

  • @salmonella7670
    @salmonella7670 4 роки тому +413

    remember when apples motto was does more costs less?
    HMMM

    • @armaanverma5533
      @armaanverma5533 4 роки тому +1

      Good old days..?

    • @radelgaming6905
      @radelgaming6905 4 роки тому +35

      I mean they weren't wrong...cause it does more HEAT you know.....

    • @TrendyWhistle
      @TrendyWhistle 4 роки тому +37

      Apples motto still stands! It does more sales and costs them less to make.

    • @AryaCashOut
      @AryaCashOut 4 роки тому +1

      @@TrendyWhistle Yass!

    • @firsttryguy7356
      @firsttryguy7356 4 роки тому +4

      that was before the death of steve jobs

  • @Daedalus89
    @Daedalus89 3 роки тому +30

    7:40 "Theres no reason for it!" Oh, theres a reason for it. They want premature failures so their customers go out and pay for their ridiculous repair prices and or just buy a whole new system.

  • @shohan282
    @shohan282 3 роки тому

    6:30 i had the same watch when i was in seven grade..brings back memory. You should do a review about that.

  • @MrLuisJF
    @MrLuisJF 4 роки тому +62

    “The MacBook Water” subtitle has to be one of the best... or at least one of the funniest because I genuinely laughed 😂

  • @unycc
    @unycc 4 роки тому +105

    3:32 Apple: Putting the "Central" in Central Processing Unit.

    • @billyashworth3944
      @billyashworth3944 4 роки тому +1

      😂 is this a reference to something I've missed?

    • @John69420
      @John69420 4 роки тому +4

      @@billyashworth3944 The cpu is in the center if i understood the reference correctly

  • @emiel255
    @emiel255 4 роки тому

    I love the dynamic between Alex and Linus

  • @Junior-xi9yb
    @Junior-xi9yb 4 роки тому +78

    “That’s what the kids say right big brain?” Linus is such a dad

  • @kozmo7
    @kozmo7 4 роки тому +155

    Linus just makes me happy. I could literally watch him do anything and it’d make my day a lot brighter.
    Linus, if you read this, as one human to another, thanks for putting in all your blood, sweat and teraflops into your work. Jokes aside, all of us fans love you so much and you have helped out so many over the years.
    Thank you and your team for all you do!

    • @BITCOIlN
      @BITCOIlN 4 роки тому +1

      eew

    • @Vexxoxx
      @Vexxoxx 4 роки тому

      @@BITCOIlN IKR???!!

    • @Kevin-ep8sy
      @Kevin-ep8sy 4 роки тому +1

      I agree, Linus is amazing!

  • @floridahummer
    @floridahummer 3 роки тому +2

    Bridgeport, that brings back happy memories.

  • @SpicyNoodleDragon
    @SpicyNoodleDragon 3 роки тому +1

    The arm processor was called before its time. Good work Linus

  • @DSCKottawa
    @DSCKottawa 4 роки тому +364

    Louis Rossmann went nuts over this exact same thing...check out his Wireless Cooling video.

    • @DSCKottawa
      @DSCKottawa 4 роки тому +93

      @@sabni8668 Obviously, because he knows how bad MacBooks are, since he repairs them every single day.

    • @macaronivirus5913
      @macaronivirus5913 4 роки тому +13

      Why won’t they put little tiny heat pipe there, costs 5$ maybe

    • @gb6912
      @gb6912 4 роки тому +53

      @@sabni8668 not a chip on his shoulder, Apple for 7 ish years has produced hilariously bad garbage, and he has to deal with their bullshit defective boards every day. Apple throws out basic engineering and design standards not even to be cheap but out of sheer incompetence. Fuses that are supposed to protect components placed further along the power lines than the components they protect.

    • @justinandrew7310
      @justinandrew7310 4 роки тому +61

      @@sabni8668 Also has easily one of the least tech savvy consumer-bases out of any tech company in the world, wonder where all that customer satisfaction comes from?

    • @DSCKottawa
      @DSCKottawa 4 роки тому +12

      @@sabni8668 You gotta see both sides of the argument. That's all.

  • @sunimod1895
    @sunimod1895 4 роки тому +265

    "Just like she goes into our sponsor, Ting."
    - Linus Sebastian

    • @grod5998
      @grod5998 4 роки тому +1

      Hate to necropost but nice comment

    • @FarmYardGaming
      @FarmYardGaming 4 роки тому

      @RITAS - ICH WILL !!! OFFEN MY CANAL!!! LET'S GO

  • @connorbetancourt5605
    @connorbetancourt5605 4 роки тому +1

    You should do an lg stylo 6 review, its pretty good. You might even be able to do some fancy cpu overclocking or something like that

  • @toblek3380
    @toblek3380 4 роки тому +3

    I know it's kinda dumb but I think they've done this to make the CPU has a shorter life to make more money in repairing their thing for like 2000$ each

  • @edifyingheresy
    @edifyingheresy 4 роки тому +77

    Linus: I can't watch while you mill a tiny bit of copper off.
    Also Linus: Let's submerge the entire laptop in water.

  • @woutervn
    @woutervn 4 роки тому +101

    Linus: We could put it in frozen water
    You mean ice Linus?

    • @RideKernow82
      @RideKernow82 4 роки тому +2

      Thought exactly the same thing 😄

    • @probablynotabigtoe9407
      @probablynotabigtoe9407 4 роки тому +2

      Nobody had any idea what he was talking about until your super high intellect pointed it out...
      Thank you

    • @benjaminmiddaugh2729
      @benjaminmiddaugh2729 4 роки тому +1

      There is such a thing a supercooled water (or at least water that has been modified a bit to stay liquid at and below its normal freezing point). If you add salt, that lowers the freezing point. add in crushed ice, and you get water significantly colder than it would normally freeze at. This is, by the way, how the 0 degree point on the Fahrenheit scale was determined.
      All that said, though, I think Linus just meant really cold water.

  • @liaminston2716
    @liaminston2716 3 роки тому

    I love it when Linus talks about Hot bottoms

  • @benxgaming3484
    @benxgaming3484 3 роки тому +1

    About the die contact:
    Lots of laptops have this problem. For example my old latitude e6420 with i7-2720QM and nvidia quadro 4200M had that issue with the graphics card specifically. My fix was to use a copper shim. Yes you are increasing the number of thermal interfaces, but in my experience it worked wonders.

  • @eyomme1
    @eyomme1 4 роки тому +132

    Yt reviewers: "Apple have excellent craftsmanship, premium build quality, excellent design."
    Macbook cooler: "Ha! I'm glad they can't see me from the outside"

  • @thomasuniat2939
    @thomasuniat2939 4 роки тому +75

    6:10, wouldnt it have been waaay safer to add a copper shim? Also Alex would make the best surgeon.
    Patient: "I'm really nervous"
    Alex: "You and me both" 😂

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 4 роки тому +3

      Well putting a shim between the die and the heat sink would be necessary so if that is too thick it could still destroy the die and would be way less effective. The drill he uses is very old but very well adjustable if you know what you're doing. It is in no way comparable to just winging it with a cordless drill.

    • @thomasuniat2939
      @thomasuniat2939 4 роки тому

      @@CheapBastard1988 If he took off too much material (which he did) you could crack the die as well. Just making a suggestion.

  • @theproudlinuxer
    @theproudlinuxer 4 роки тому

    Your intro animation is WOWWW!

  • @huptup
    @huptup 3 роки тому

    My favorite series

  • @mcunner
    @mcunner 4 роки тому +116

    The mac knows when you try improve thermals and limits itself in other ways 😂

    • @user-ju6zx3rm8d
      @user-ju6zx3rm8d 4 роки тому +3

      this ^

    • @loveiphones4550
      @loveiphones4550 4 роки тому +1

      It is the CPU limiting itself because stupid Intel builds 14 nm CPUs which are far less efficient and much bigger than 7 nm

  • @GadgetAddict
    @GadgetAddict 4 роки тому +183

    I saw some people installing thermal transfer pads between the heat sink and bottom case. It works to spread the temperature but I'm worried about it heating the batteries.

    • @groundzero_-lm4md
      @groundzero_-lm4md 4 роки тому +5

      For the burst like modes that most Mac users experience it will be OK and allow for higher turbos.

    • @Progan666
      @Progan666 4 роки тому +1

      the thermal camera shows a hot spot so all of that heat isnt transferred to the batteries also theres that fan so as long as theres space between the bottom case and the batteries it should be fine.

    • @lonsn3929
      @lonsn3929 3 роки тому +1

      Even if... Buying a new set of batteries if it happens wouldn't be that bad of a risk

    • @theencryptedpartition4633
      @theencryptedpartition4633 2 роки тому

      @@lonsn3929 but what if something happens. There is still a risk and I am not sure whether you're going to be able to fix your Mac with AppleCare + cuz they may just reject your request

  • @NotTheHeroStudios
    @NotTheHeroStudios 2 роки тому

    I love how Alex just Yolo'd the drill press. Just said "send it"

  • @eqynoks4256
    @eqynoks4256 4 роки тому +1

    All you need now is a checkered flannel shirt and an axe dude. Looks good 👍

  • @SGCSmith
    @SGCSmith 4 роки тому +235

    Louis Rossmann probably enjoyed this video of torturing that MacBook heatsink.

    • @Billy123bobzzz
      @Billy123bobzzz 4 роки тому

      No, in fact Louis has fixed nothing. He is just a small time repair shop with a very big mouth. He knows nothing about designing actual products, of he did then he would realize that every time you change one item to avoid one issue that you then create three new problems.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 4 роки тому +27

      @@Billy123bobzzz :D Hello Apple user... Maybe with some ignorance spilled in too lol.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 4 роки тому +3

      More like writing this down to the list of absolute shit Apple has put out...

    • @SGCSmith
      @SGCSmith 4 роки тому +15

      @@Billy123bobzzz I mean, that goes beyond the point of my comment, but I'm sure he would love to drill holes through customer boards like LTT drilled at that heatsink. But given I work with former Apple employees, deal with broken Macs all day, and see the same repetitive nonsense all day that Louis deals with when it comes to hardware failures, I'd rather watch his channel and see him fix something than trust whatever Apple says. If you've worked with Apple before through a dedicated support contract, you'll know that they bend over backwards until you leave their limited perfect support window. Try to report issues like T2 Firmware bugs that impact actual machines in production. For example, T2 chips bricking themselves from OS updates. Or Command + Option + R not working as Apple documentation stated, because of a two year old firmware bug they have yet to fix. Or the shoddy graphics drivers they included in Catalina that now just cause random programs to crash out (as of 10.15.5...). It'll take forever to get fixed. Their hardware will keep breaking. And yet companies just keep buying the hardware.
      Heck this week I had a Mac with a glued in swollen battery that puffed up to more than double the thickness of the Mac. Also caused the bottom cover to blow off and break the screws. My urge to drop kick the Mac to Cupertino in a bent up mess before showing Apple had to be retrained big time. Some day Apple's genius choice is going to get someone hurt. Or set a courier's truck on fire.
      Now the difference between Louis and Apple is a big one when it comes to designing components. But I can agree with him on a few things much like how I can agree on some design choices Apple makes.
      But please continue to take posts out of context and troll around.

    • @paulwin9036
      @paulwin9036 4 роки тому +15

      @@Billy123bobzzz found the sheeple.

  • @berry-xs8ln
    @berry-xs8ln 4 роки тому +235

    Imagine Tim Cook watching this from his mansion somewhere like: 😐

    • @bullet01l30
      @bullet01l30 4 роки тому +16

      yeah he sucks

    • @TommieTh
      @TommieTh 4 роки тому +6

      He saw this and he decided to announce Apple silicon instead of intel and i’m sure that they will fix the fan situation while doing that

    • @bullet01l30
      @bullet01l30 4 роки тому +3

      seriously?

    • @OnderTARIM
      @OnderTARIM 4 роки тому +2

      A man crying on stage after Oprah for Apple TV+ but does nothing for real improvements on Mac side. I totally hate him.

    • @franzferdinand2240
      @franzferdinand2240 4 роки тому

      @@bullet01l30 nah he's joking

  • @mdt9921
    @mdt9921 4 роки тому

    And this is why I love Linus

  • @WM22
    @WM22 3 роки тому

    Lol the advertising for your store is like rick rolling us

  • @Derpuwolf
    @Derpuwolf 4 роки тому +413

    Not gonna lie, that conspiracy theory sounds more true than false.

    • @muaries12
      @muaries12 4 роки тому +13

      Nahh it will fry itself in no time and will have to buy a new one

    • @fourdee4d
      @fourdee4d 4 роки тому

      Snapdragon always 60'c target. Years ahead in efficiency compared to Allwinner and Mediatek. AMlogic 1 year behind.
      7nm, with devs who target ARM (RISC) 1st? Own future.
      Nintendo knew for years, a dream that requires change and effort. DS/3DS/Switch. They cared and gave focus for today. They finally got Nvidia on board and owned us all (-1).
      What will they do next, for us all. We can but dream and avoid an Apple, unless it is ripe, for a future of all humans, where £ < effort worth everyones time and future.
      LTTstore.com/love

    • @jlu
      @jlu 4 роки тому +1

      That’s stupid, no one would buy MacBooks if they didn’t have decent performance

    • @moalboris239
      @moalboris239 4 роки тому +3

      @@jlu Marketing and social status goods bro. There is plenty of people out there who will shell out 2000+ USD every month to prove they are modern and high tech even if the performance is subpar. Developing countries nouveau riche
      are especially good targets for that style of marketing.

    • @whiteduck5563
      @whiteduck5563 3 роки тому

      @@jlu I don't think anyone who buys that crap, cares for performance. Just the Logo

  • @nil0bject
    @nil0bject 4 роки тому +53

    you'll find out the fan positioning reason, when they release the ARM macs. they're obviously using the same laptop design and swapping the CPU

    • @fbelard
      @fbelard 4 роки тому +1

      this

    • @fbelard
      @fbelard 4 роки тому

      plot twist: they remove the fan altogether. and add more...?

    • @cuthberter
      @cuthberter 4 роки тому +1

      Surely there’s a heatpipe between the cpu and the fan? Surely it’s not completely passively cooled without even using the body as a heatsink?

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel 4 роки тому

      @@cuthberter Not at the bottom... Maybe it's at the other side of the motherboard but it's probably not there either. The Huawei Matebook X pro had a similar approach where the fan is separate from the CPU cooler, but that laptop had a huge heatsink that covers most of the chips like a shell. It worked I guess.
      There was a modder called Bradshacks who added a flat heatpipe to the fan of that laptop, which decreased temperatures. He also performed other mods such as thermal paste/thermal pad/copper shim mods which Linus could investigate.

  • @meltech4659
    @meltech4659 3 роки тому +2

    it should be: Macbook that wants Air

  • @ChusmaChusme
    @ChusmaChusme Рік тому +1

    2:55 Damn that is on point.

  • @musiqtee
    @musiqtee 4 роки тому +96

    Intel-to-Arm conspiracy - Hilarious, could be right... We’ll know more in less than 24 hours. 😅

    • @JD-tf4zw
      @JD-tf4zw 4 роки тому

      Intel would have to throw some shade Apples way if there was unfair comparisons made for those tyoes of things, but if apple stick to just "performance better than last years model" then not much you can do

    • @UltimatePwnageNL
      @UltimatePwnageNL 4 роки тому

      @Shaban Ashraf hackingtosh / virtual machine time

  • @tbx1024
    @tbx1024 4 роки тому +127

    Alternative conspiracy theory: they thought they'd be already getting their own custom ARM chips a bit earlier, and had to rush a heatsink redesign for Intel

    • @DigitalNegative
      @DigitalNegative 4 роки тому +16

      It doesn't really matter what the case may be because it is part of a trend of apple to package something that has some inherent design flaws but looks stunning to lay people.

    • @stonersiren
      @stonersiren 4 роки тому +1

      doesn't sound unrealistic

    • @extrahourinthepit
      @extrahourinthepit 4 роки тому +4

      You know what? Not only is this plausible, it’s verifiable! If the new MacBook Air has a similar enough board design we’ll know that you were spot-on!

    • @ProVisionOman
      @ProVisionOman 4 роки тому +1

      @@DigitalNegative but that's under the hood - it has no exterior looks to stun anyone

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 4 роки тому +2

      This heatsink design was like that since October 2018