The mystery of the Meddlers - Halo's secret species

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    Throughout the history of the Halo universe, there have been traces of unidentified species interfering with various parts of the galaxy. Today, we're diving into this secret species, and investigating the mystery of the Meddlers...
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  • @HiddenXperia
    @HiddenXperia  5 років тому +738

    The mystery of the Covenant Fringe (secret members of the Covenant) next?
    Leave a like if you wanna see it this week! Major thanks to CIA391 for all the help with this video, definitely would not have been possible without him. Hope you guys enjoy!

    • @thearbiter3351
      @thearbiter3351 5 років тому +12

      It's so interesting man, cheers

    • @Devil_of_Wrath
      @Devil_of_Wrath 5 років тому +5

      Dad :D
      Hey Hidden, been watching you for awhile and I always watch while playing Halo. Keep up the good work man, these videos are amazing from the transitions to the information to the concept art and background gameplay. Simply amazing, you and your editors and such are just... awesome.

    • @chatterboc3678
      @chatterboc3678 5 років тому +4

      What if they are the new covenant like group, the left behind ones( the name i have given)
      Theory:they were never chosen by the precurses, so they want vengence on the the other races, by helping the flood navigate from time to time so they can be the new rulers of the galaxy, this is just an idea but it would be like the original game play, a group of unknow species team up against the world as wee know it, this would be a prefect recreation of halo CE what do you guys think, do you like this Idea?

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 5 років тому +2

      Yes! I would love for you to do a video on the Covenant Fringe. And why they weren’t mentioned by Cortana except for the Yohnet.

    • @oldlawnchairgamer418
      @oldlawnchairgamer418 5 років тому +1

      Omg hiddenxperia I've been waiting for a video like this for a long time

  • @zachplummer625
    @zachplummer625 4 роки тому +600

    Imagine how terrifying it must have been to travel through dark space only to find a dead galaxy.

    • @kriotech0249
      @kriotech0249 3 роки тому +53

      Well when you put it that way, it is terrifying .

    • @SR-wz2iv
      @SR-wz2iv 3 роки тому +64

      Dead is definitely worse than non-living

    • @myles3856
      @myles3856 3 роки тому +8

      @@SR-wz2iv true

    • @abhinavrajesh2975
      @abhinavrajesh2975 3 роки тому +1

      @Dreymon Green
      The necromorphs are worse than flood

    • @degeneratesupreme860
      @degeneratesupreme860 2 роки тому +24

      @@abhinavrajesh2975 debatable

  • @Davesothoth
    @Davesothoth 5 років тому +1362

    The meddlers were obviously a super-advanced race of ancient Grunts. Not even the Flood could stop them...

    • @CoreyA303
      @CoreyA303 5 років тому +94

      In an alternate universe where they won during the great schism

    • @wafflingmean4477
      @wafflingmean4477 5 років тому +86

      Yap Yap the Destroyer is their leader hidden in disguise. In time he will rule the universe itself.

    • @fatalequinox6553
      @fatalequinox6553 5 років тому +36

      Nyarthonis lol I imagined grunts in forerunner armor

    • @constantinepolydore5189
      @constantinepolydore5189 5 років тому +20

      Yo i eould actually love this to be the case

    • @srgforge2993
      @srgforge2993 5 років тому +40

      The flood arnt invading us, theyre running, from them. Just like ancient humanity from the flood

  • @ipodlapras1701
    @ipodlapras1701 2 роки тому +46

    Some of the meddlers could be the Endless. Because of their immunity to the Halo Rings. That could explain why Spark encountered a species that could travel space before all other life couldn’t. And because the forerunners whipped all knowledge of their existence from the galaxy except what’s on Zeta halo. That would also explain why Spark didn’t know what they were.

  • @flanglank6202
    @flanglank6202 5 років тому +613

    I feel like bungie and 343 themselves forgot about the meddlers

    • @LordEmpyreal
      @LordEmpyreal 4 роки тому +30

      Bungie had nothing to do with the story of the meddlers. The terminals were made for Halo CE Anniversary after 343i took over.

    • @Constance_tinople
      @Constance_tinople 4 роки тому +9

      Fos Kuvol the halo 2 book wasn’t licensed by Bungie?

    • @LordEmpyreal
      @LordEmpyreal 4 роки тому +17

      @@Constance_tinople That was a throwaway line in a story about the Covenant. It was never there to present mystery, and is entirely unrelated to the story of the CEA terminal, which WAS designed to present a mystery. It's the species of the crashed ship where the mystery lies, as it was actually the entire focal point of its own short story. The "others" Guilty Spark speaks of in the conversations were only mentioned to explain why he didn't seem too worried about the Covenant's activities on the ring, not as a topic to be expanded on further.
      It's kind of like how there were dozens of species in the Covenant we will never see. It's not a mystery, it's just a statement that was put out there at some point that 343i decided to take advantage of when they made Nightfall. There was one species that WAS presented as a mystery (like the crashed ship), the Sharquoi. A mystery that has yet to be explored.
      Keep in mind this is the same community that thought Caveat was some big mysterious species during the Halo 4 development cycle... Because they were too lazy to look up the word caveat and realize that the page was a written caveat of the encyclopedia it was a part of.

    • @Constance_tinople
      @Constance_tinople 4 роки тому +1

      Fos Kuvol and you know the writers intentions behind the notes how exactly?

    • @LordEmpyreal
      @LordEmpyreal 4 роки тому +6

      @@Constance_tinople Because of literary structure. Writing is one of the most transparent forms of communication. It's about emphasis.
      The emphasis of the note about 343 was on how his decision not to interfere with the Covenant resulted in the release of the Flood. Even if you just look at the sentence that mentions "others" the emphasis is on the fact that everyone else has always just looked around and left, not on the fact that there was anyone else in the first place.
      Opposingly, the story in the notes that mentioned the Sharquoi was on the Elites discussing how dangerous an enemy humanity is proving to be. The Sharquoi played into the story as their discussed -solution- to the problem, making their reveal the emphasis and what they are mystery.
      It's similar with the crashed ship. The entire story of that terminal was about the ship, and 343's curiosities are an analogue of the viewer. The writer of the story is telling us, through 343's monologue, to find the mystery of the ship interesting and important.

  • @bennygoodmanisgod
    @bennygoodmanisgod 5 років тому +1281

    My grunt mind cannot comprehend how deep Halo's lore is

  • @MetroVerse
    @MetroVerse 5 років тому +798

    I never even heard about the Meddlers before. You go deep into Halo's lore man. I thought I knew a lot about Halo lore, but damn, you got me beat by a landslide. I learned so much from your videos. I like your last theory the most. We know about the Precursors, and we know about the Forerunners. This is all too obscure to be one of the 2 well known species. My guess is that they're from another galaxy as well. I would like that a lot. If they're the guys who escaped a Forerunner prison, then they're definitely formiddable.

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no 5 років тому +6

      If you played halo 2, yes you did.

    • @MetroVerse
      @MetroVerse 5 років тому +4

      @@FBI-ju5no I played Halo 2 religiously. It's still my all time favorite shooter (if not all time favorite game).

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no 5 років тому +4

      @@MetroVerse
      I meant that if you had played halo 2, you have heard of the meddlers.

    • @MetroVerse
      @MetroVerse 5 років тому +23

      @@FBI-ju5no Again, I've played Halo 2 religiously, but I never heard of the Meddlers. Even the guy said that he made up the name and that they're too obscure to make any kind of statement about them. Stop pretending like they're common knowledge, because they're not. I hate it when people do that. It's like saying "how can you not remember that character that played a 1 minute guest role in season 2 of a TV show that is in its 15th season".

    • @FBI-ju5no
      @FBI-ju5no 5 років тому +2

      @@MetroVerse
      Go watch the cutscene after killing the heretic leader.

  • @TheAHuman
    @TheAHuman 2 роки тому +107

    During Infinite, I first thought the endless were the Precursors. But I figured they weren’t, then I started guessing they are the meddlers. I think I am right

    • @Lagg0r
      @Lagg0r 2 роки тому +4

      This should pretty much be fact now. The endless arrived after the halo firing, so it HAS TO BE them :D

    • @testtickles8878
      @testtickles8878 2 роки тому +2

      Aren’t the endless immune to the halos so if they got infected by the flood they would become an immune flood which would totally not be good

    • @maniac3299
      @maniac3299 2 роки тому +5

      @@testtickles8878 well the halo rings destroy anything with a central nervous system and since they survived the firing somehow they must not have one and that's what the flood uses pretty much to infect so in a sense I feel like the endless should be immune to both the rings and the flood

    • @aidanmaldonado9917
      @aidanmaldonado9917 Рік тому

      It was reconned to confirm you are right.

    • @YTHandlesSuck
      @YTHandlesSuck Рік тому

      @@testtickles8878if they’re immune to the halos, they’re immune to the flood. in order to be a host for the flood, you need to have a nervous system. the halos were designed to kill anyone who had a nervous system, so those who survived were also immune to the flood

  • @justmccoy5213
    @justmccoy5213 2 роки тому +77

    I think the “endless” sent out harbingers to multiple halo’s given as though they don’t know which halo is holding their people in the crypt. Also give how the harbinger in halo killed the monitor, I’m not surprised guilty spark was afraid when they returned to his ring.

    • @travisscavone2920
      @travisscavone2920 2 роки тому +5

      naa endless and the harbringers are trapped in cylixes

    • @extra4594
      @extra4594 2 роки тому +5

      @@travisscavone2920 some could've evaded capture?

  • @gametologist8148
    @gametologist8148 5 років тому +642

    By far the most reliable content creator for Halo and Halo Lore. Banger after banger with the boss man, keep it up

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  5 років тому +27

      Roberto Hecksher Ayyyy thanks Chief, appreciate it :)

    • @kaizermengele6669
      @kaizermengele6669 4 роки тому

      Roberto Hecksher he’s pretty much the only one

    • @Stuntmachine14
      @Stuntmachine14 4 роки тому

      @@kaizermengele6669 Installation 00 is another, although he's way more technical and scientific

    • @thatguywithemail1431
      @thatguywithemail1431 4 роки тому

      @@Stuntmachine14
      Installation00 is really good. He goes super deep into all the Lore too but he does look more into the technical aspects like EckhartsLadder.

  • @ChaseSeaborne
    @ChaseSeaborne 5 років тому +941

    What if the Meddlers saw the firing of the Halo array millions or billions of lightyears away from another galaxy? They could have possibly seen the pulse and could have decided to go and investigate it, thus why they landed on Halo and possibly other Forerunner installations.
    A scary thought is through their findings and with proper research, what if they tried to make a Halo of their own? Now that's a truly terrifying thought

    • @phoenixjones7191
      @phoenixjones7191 5 років тому +238

      They probably learned the history of the rise of the flood and just said "yeah fuck this place" then never came back

    • @doodsalot270
      @doodsalot270 5 років тому +83

      Wouldn't be possible. a lightyear is how far light travels in a year. the array was fired less than 300,000 years ago, and the nearest galaxy, Andromeda, is several million away

    • @NotARangerBoy
      @NotARangerBoy 5 років тому +99

      Doodsalot270 this is fucking Halo a video game where anything could happen. Species aren’t bound to real life rules, especially Aliens. If they can’t come from another galaxy than why can species travel so fast with slip space through star systems by ripping space time itself? FFS their could have been species from Ic1101 Damit, the largest Galaxy to date in real life. They could have developed a way to go through a portal or a wormhole.
      I’m gonna go nuts if I have to tell people this is a game again.

    • @patrickschooley731
      @patrickschooley731 5 років тому +71

      Maybe it was the fleeing precursors who saw it. When they came back they detected traces of others. Thinking they were prisoners, they tried to free them, but ended up finding the flood

    • @eysel_
      @eysel_ 5 років тому +68

      @@doodsalot270 That's not how the halo array worked, pretty sure it's been stated that when fired it's pulsation traversed a length greater than a light year a second. That being said the Milky Way is hundreds of thousands of light years in diameter. Don't think that the Forerunners would wait hundreds of thousands of years for the galaxy to be cleansed giving the Flood far more than enough time to run away.

  • @grimoeuvre6198
    @grimoeuvre6198 5 років тому +174

    Did he just exclude the grunts out of the technology capable species list? 8:17

    • @zacharywoodgates3911
      @zacharywoodgates3911 5 років тому +98

      Their high level of understanding of the universe puts them above all classification

    • @laughable6650
      @laughable6650 4 роки тому +36

      He probably just forgot. They had reached the early space faring age when the Halo Array fired.

    • @theluftwaffle1
      @theluftwaffle1 4 роки тому +3

      Grim Oeuvre maybe because when they were first encountered by the covenant they lacked the ability for space travel?

    • @shi77e20
      @shi77e20 4 роки тому +13

      @@theluftwaffle1 The grunt technology could've been wiped out by the Forerunners because they were threatened by their immense intelligence

    • @antonioderas3
      @antonioderas3 3 роки тому +1

      Clearly species-ist, smh time for another grunt revolt for respect!

  • @spencerjacobs4906
    @spencerjacobs4906 5 років тому +275

    Nah, man they definitely xenomorphs and yautjas👌🏻

    • @crustypaladin
      @crustypaladin 5 років тому +1

      Yep

    • @downrangecash2418
      @downrangecash2418 5 років тому +13

      You know this would be completely in character for the Yautja. They just land on Installation 04 and start chucking Xenomorphs everywhere to hunt, all the while 343 Guilty Spark just sits there wondering why the hell they are doing this. At some point he Flood gets out, and that's when he sterilizes everything and takes some of the Predators and Xenos for study.

    • @patriciamavis1274
      @patriciamavis1274 5 років тому +9

      Could happen but...can xenon be infected...predators defiantly can and can face huggers impregnate flood combat forms.
      🤔

    • @spencerjacobs4906
      @spencerjacobs4906 5 років тому +9

      Guilty spark: “why tho?”

    • @zahraaisya4447
      @zahraaisya4447 5 років тому

      No.they are actually a team of species that give them supplies one was in halo:CE another was shown in a film witch damn I cant remember

  • @angryzorro6630
    @angryzorro6630 5 років тому +412

    The mystery’s of halo never end

    • @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773
      @lukeskywalkerthe2nd773 5 років тому +3

      Ikr!

    • @PackHunter117
      @PackHunter117 5 років тому +29

      You might say they’re INFINITE ♾. I’ll show myself out.

    • @sayanbiswas4158
      @sayanbiswas4158 5 років тому +1

      Mario Ravioli man u have 117 likes now

    • @vickybuz
      @vickybuz 5 років тому +5

      That’s sad
      That means 343 will keep making shit games lol

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 5 років тому +3

      You're right. I'm still astonished that the Halos can destroy Precursor structures. How?!? Many questions remain

  • @mcnutty8037
    @mcnutty8037 5 років тому +64

    A halo equivalent of the yuuzhan vong would be an interesting concept

    • @consciousawakening4799
      @consciousawakening4799 4 роки тому +2

      Would you consider the flood to be that equivalent?

    • @totallynotalpharius2283
      @totallynotalpharius2283 3 роки тому +3

      @@consciousawakening4799 sort of but not entirely . If the flood had a culture sentience ( grave mind excluded) maybe .

    • @the-dripbine
      @the-dripbine 2 роки тому +2

      @@consciousawakening4799 nah

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому

      Nice to see someone reference them in this Halo channel.

  • @cobra_commander2255
    @cobra_commander2255 5 років тому +76

    What if the Meddlers, after causing the outbreak on Delta Halo, got infected and absorbed into the gravemind? Think about it, if there were only animals and other wildlife on the ring, how did an intelligent gravemind form? It would surely need sapient species to form a proto-gravemind, like Keyes in Halo CE.

    • @kyza6463
      @kyza6463 5 років тому +15

      well the grave mind seen in halo 2 took control of delta halos monitor but that is a fair point i dont think one monitor being the only intelligent thing on the ring would be enough to fuel a grave mind

    • @soulblightx9847
      @soulblightx9847 5 років тому +14

      @@kyza6463 don't graveminds harbor the knowledge of previous graveminds?

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 5 років тому +7

      @@soulblightx9847 yes

    • @cobra_commander2255
      @cobra_commander2255 5 років тому +3

      @@soulblightx9847 But then why did the flood need Keyes to make a smart gravemind in Halo CE?

    • @soulblightx9847
      @soulblightx9847 5 років тому +21

      Cobra_Commander that was to give the proto-gravemind the location of earth and the knowledge of how modern human space vessels work...........I think.

  • @stephennelson4954
    @stephennelson4954 2 роки тому +21

    This mystery really is strange. With little to no information the speculation is Endless…

  • @HaloGrunt15
    @HaloGrunt15 5 років тому +69

    I want grunt breeding chamber lore... For scientific research..

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 2 роки тому +5

      It involves the Morning Food Nipple.

  • @th3thatguy631
    @th3thatguy631 2 роки тому +14

    POSSIBLE SPOILER FOR HALO INFINITE
    I'm coming back to this from halo infinite and I think The Endless could be these meddlers

  • @Rev_Goose
    @Rev_Goose 2 роки тому +9

    Someone mentioned this today and and I hadn't heard of it before, so after doing some research I'm wondering if it could be the Endless. If maybe the forerunners thought they locked all the Endless up, but perhaps there were a few ships that escaped, and they were going to these Halo rings searching for their imprisoned species.

  • @Jedi_Spartan_38
    @Jedi_Spartan_38 5 років тому +90

    I hope we hear about them, if they're one extra galactic species, in Infinite (possibly even an ally in future games when the flood return)

    • @Jedi_Spartan_38
      @Jedi_Spartan_38 5 років тому +8

      Also, Halopedia is my 3rd source for Halo knowledge. First is you, second is Halo Canon

    • @TheAHuman
      @TheAHuman 2 роки тому +1

      Well. You got what you wanted.

  • @Chinfu-gb8sk
    @Chinfu-gb8sk 5 років тому +244

    Only meddlers i see is the team that made the halo 5 item packs

    • @jakeedgell591
      @jakeedgell591 5 років тому +12

      True meddlers those

    • @vickybuz
      @vickybuz 5 років тому +5

      Let’s throw them over and get Bungie back

    • @DcTbigkiller30
      @DcTbigkiller30 5 років тому +14

      bungie isnr better then 343 nowadays

    • @Chinfu-gb8sk
      @Chinfu-gb8sk 5 років тому +2

      DcTbigkiller30 Um your joking right?

    • @CoreyA303
      @CoreyA303 5 років тому +8

      @@DcTbigkiller30 Bungie and 343 aren't the problem. Microsoft and Activision are. They're the ones who make all the money and care about cash over content. Bungie said they left microsoft because they didn't give them enough freedom. Unfortunately Activision wasn't much better and 343i basically became Microsoft's bitch after Bungie.

  • @DerKopfkissenmann
    @DerKopfkissenmann 2 роки тому +12

    I believe the Oracle mentions the Meddlers slightly in Halo 3 on the mission Ark, right before the ending of the mission

    • @ThelVadam7777
      @ThelVadam7777 2 роки тому +3

      He calls the covenant loyalists “meddlers” as they are meddling with the ark and stuff.

  • @LiptonTeaGodly
    @LiptonTeaGodly 5 років тому +26

    The Meddlers could be time travellers.
    Why would these Meddlers be time travellers? Well, think about it.
    Every instance or place they have been has been just in the nick of time, at the right moment or had a knock-on effect. It kept 343 guilty spark from going insane before anyone arrived.

  • @user-iu7ul2of4b
    @user-iu7ul2of4b 5 років тому +104

    YES finally, i have been wanting a video about the meddlers ever since i found out about them. Thx :D

  • @commanderknight9314
    @commanderknight9314 5 років тому +109

    Hey you made video on the meddlers, yey.

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  5 років тому +12

      How could I not after the amount of comments asking for it on the last video? 😂 Hope it was worth the wait!

    • @commanderknight9314
      @commanderknight9314 5 років тому +4

      Yes it was.

    • @drquack4213
      @drquack4213 5 років тому

      I didn’t even know what meddlers were lol

    • @tausiftaha12
      @tausiftaha12 3 роки тому

      @@commanderknight9314 "yey"

  • @IDoABitOfTrollin
    @IDoABitOfTrollin 2 роки тому +6

    With The Endless being a mystery now... Makes me wonder... But then again Guilty Spark would recognize them or the craft...

  • @dukeofdisastr9015
    @dukeofdisastr9015 2 роки тому +7

    They might need a name switch to the Endless

  • @darthvader4594
    @darthvader4594 5 років тому +204

    it is said you become a precursor on the 31th day of NNN.

    • @11Survivor
      @11Survivor 5 років тому +7

      *31st

    • @axelramirez9074
      @axelramirez9074 5 років тому +2

      Darth Vader hi dad

    • @drquack4213
      @drquack4213 5 років тому +3

      Hey Vader I see you in a lot of Halo and Star Wars videos lol

    • @adversty7367
      @adversty7367 5 років тому +2

      You must be new here. The Act Man will do you some good.

    • @sheldon-cooper
      @sheldon-cooper 5 років тому

      Damn that's some intense powers to gain

  • @JCbackfire
    @JCbackfire 5 років тому +39

    Dear god bro, your videos are amazing

  • @noddlegaming8738
    @noddlegaming8738 2 роки тому +4

    Just got this up on my recommended after 3 years lol. But it did bring a thought to my mind after Infinite, could the Endless have been some of these meddlers? Maybe not, but it’s fun to think about

  • @PdxEmo03
    @PdxEmo03 2 роки тому +5

    [Minor Halo Infinite spoiler]
    Although unlikely, what if the Meddlers was the Harbinger's kind/species?

  • @ToxicCoffeeTM
    @ToxicCoffeeTM 5 років тому +18

    Honestly 343 should take advantage of this, so they can up our curiosity in the halo universe and potentially add new lore which would be cool

  • @Esponea_482
    @Esponea_482 5 років тому +82

    They are MEDDLING KIDS

    • @HiddenXperia
      @HiddenXperia  5 років тому +36

      and I WOULD'VE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT TOO! IF IT WEREN'T FOR THOSE DAMN MEDDLERS...

    • @KitKatHexe
      @KitKatHexe 5 років тому +18

      Yes... Mystery inc caused the flood outbreak... Imagine Velma's face when its not a mask

  • @NegaGandhi
    @NegaGandhi 4 роки тому +3

    Last thing the Halo universe needs is for the Yuuzhan Vong to show up

  • @BrickFilmsCinema
    @BrickFilmsCinema 2 роки тому +4

    6:32 Just now realizing Solitary is probably for the endless...

  • @supremecoctus3201
    @supremecoctus3201 5 років тому +87

    What if its the precursors that colonized another galaxy? They could be a peaceful people that successfully re-created themself from the dust spores and didn't wish to be apart of the flood. Now they come back to watch their creations do work and try to stop the rings, flood etc.

    • @BlvckJoekr
      @BlvckJoekr 4 роки тому +1

      Supreme Coctus thank you for someone saying it. Surprised you haven’t gotten any other replies

    • @ayuwoki453
      @ayuwoki453 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe they actually wanted to help the flood thus leading to them releasing them on delta halo.

    • @myles3856
      @myles3856 3 роки тому

      Possible but I don't think

    • @insertnamehere2746
      @insertnamehere2746 Рік тому

      Okay so they dont want to be part of the flood so why would they release them?

  • @can3552
    @can3552 2 роки тому +6

    I think halo Infinite might have given us our answer

  • @jhnyjoejoe69
    @jhnyjoejoe69 2 роки тому +4

    They're called the Endless now.

  • @Lagg0r
    @Lagg0r 2 роки тому +3

    Funny this video is now recommended to me a few days after infinite came out. It's pretty much fact that the endless are the meddlers described in this video.

  • @zacimusprime4865
    @zacimusprime4865 5 років тому +31

    Hopefully this will return the mysterious to the halo franchise that made the original series so nostalgic😊👍🏻

    • @Onxide
      @Onxide 5 років тому +5

      Halo 4 had that sense of mystery to it, reminding me of CE

    • @zacimusprime4865
      @zacimusprime4865 5 років тому +3

      Mister Asylum true😊👍🏻

    • @agentnukaz1715
      @agentnukaz1715 5 років тому

      Yaeh the forerunners a flood aren't very mysterious anymore :/

    • @zacimusprime4865
      @zacimusprime4865 5 років тому

      jonathan cause halo 4 ruined the mysteriousness

    • @mrweirdguy5249
      @mrweirdguy5249 5 років тому +1

      Precursors are still a mystery.

  • @unfathomable3434
    @unfathomable3434 4 роки тому +5

    I have 2 theories.
    1: Time travel
    2: A species that came from another galaxy that was interested in the Halo rings. They recorded what they saw maybe attacked the moniters and left. Maybe to help their galaxy or they saw what happened and went to investigate.

  • @don8659
    @don8659 2 роки тому +6

    Update 2 years later. The mysterious character on Halo infinite is if not a precursor then at very least from the aforementioned meddler species. She hates the forerunners. Might explain why spark was willing to destroy the autumn.... Feeling seems mutual.

    • @ghosttiee9212
      @ghosttiee9212 2 роки тому +1

      Oh man yess maybe the punished are the meddlers

    • @ghosttiee9212
      @ghosttiee9212 2 роки тому

      And that spark the new one looks so different woww and those new skimmer creatures woww mann

    • @extra4594
      @extra4594 2 роки тому

      I think the endless are very likely the medlers

    • @don8659
      @don8659 2 роки тому

      @@extra4594 I think so too

  • @grantlauzon5237
    @grantlauzon5237 5 років тому +5

    I was always confused by all of the terminals in HALO anniversary.
    Glad to see everyone else was too.
    I did get the delta halo references about Tangent not calling or the gas giant level in HALO 2.

  • @anasamla
    @anasamla 2 роки тому +3

    Brining this back from the dead. These are the remnants of the endless before they are imprisoned.

  • @wales2k4747
    @wales2k4747 5 років тому +4

    It’d be cool to see the Meddlers play a significant role in Halo Infinite.

  • @ray-0249
    @ray-0249 4 роки тому +6

    6:40 I think I heard somewhere that is actually where the primordial was held before it was released by the activation of alpha halo during its testing.

  • @50ssb82
    @50ssb82 Рік тому +3

    These Meddlers could be the Xalanyn or Endless from Halo Infinite because the lore suggests that some of them escaped to avoid imprisonment by the Forerunners on Zeta Halo.

  • @d34d84
    @d34d84 4 роки тому +2

    Its so cool how there are still creatures we haven't encountered yet

  • @alvzcizzler
    @alvzcizzler 2 роки тому +6

    Harbinger?

    • @ghosttiee9212
      @ghosttiee9212 2 роки тому

      Yess mabyeeee the punished are the meddlers I hope I'm so hyped omggg

  • @h1ko393
    @h1ko393 5 років тому +30

    It’s obviously the G Man. Half Life Infinite confirmed.

    • @garfieif8187
      @garfieif8187 5 років тому

      The actual explanation for g-man is really cool, though

    • @regularstan6212
      @regularstan6212 3 роки тому

      50 yrs from now people will look back at this post and think wow this guy was ahead of the times. All games lead to HL3

  • @TheVengefulVadam
    @TheVengefulVadam 5 років тому +12

    11:15 the issue I have with this theory is that the ship the "Meddlers" crashed with on Alpha Halo had gas that biologically matched the ring's environment, so unless something in another galaxy somehow managed to produce a gas with the exact same compounds as Installation 04, I doubt it was something from a neighboring galaxy.
    Other than that, awesome video as always!

    • @sherlockhooves574
      @sherlockhooves574 5 років тому +9

      It's not as unlikely as you might think. There's no reason life from another galaxy would be more alien than life from a different star system; it's farther away, but that doesn't mean the conditions are somehow different. Stars are the same, space is the same, chemistry is the same, and the laws of physics are the same.

    • @reapordeath
      @reapordeath 2 роки тому +2

      @@sherlockhooves574 not to mention gases in space are the same. There's no guarantee that other galaxies would have more exotic compounds or substances than we already know about. We don't know what we don't know, but we do know what we do know

  • @__TheWiseMan__
    @__TheWiseMan__ 2 роки тому +4

    The endless are the meddlers

  • @ahhhbeees1860
    @ahhhbeees1860 5 років тому +51

    Perhaps the Meddlers were/are fighting flood in their own galaxy and were/are looking for places to run because they were/are losing.

    • @starlightwarden
      @starlightwarden 5 років тому +14

      The theory is extremely possible, since the Flood was hinted to have expanded in small numbers outside of the Milky Way galaxy, further into the Large Magellenic Cloud (Path Kethona), as did the Forerunners who escaped the firing of the Halo Array. With that in mind, it's also likely the Flood could have survived and started finding lesser lifeforms to consume. I think this is a possible theory as to how the Flood could return through Cortana using the Guardians to stop all technologically advanced species from fending off from a large Flood force invading and consuming life in our galaxy once more via Logic Plague. :)

    • @punctuationman334
      @punctuationman334 4 роки тому +1

      Dylan Thompson plus the flood are still around on the ark in high charities remains.

    • @Hifcrea
      @Hifcrea 3 роки тому

      An interesting point, however the flood was unleashed intentionally in the Milky Way as punishment to forerunners betrayal. Can we really expect that a small amount of flood escaped the galaxy after the initial firing and managed to travel millions of light years to another galaxy and build up to a tyrannical force. I doubt it. Too much distance and time involved in this theory.
      I believe the meddlers are precursor of sorts. Since they are near god like it makes sense they would come back after the firing in subtle ways to finish their punishment

  • @Active_Genesis
    @Active_Genesis 5 років тому +33

    I would love the Meddlers to be aliens from other galaxies that have been taken over by a massive Flood force, and we have to either prepare to fight them, or take the fight to them. Halo began with the Flood, Halo should continue and end with them as well.

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale 2 роки тому +4

    Do we know how a Gravemind managed to form on 05? It had been there a _while_ as the Flood zone was contained with the Sentinel Wall, but someone must've released the Flood and been mulched for their trouble to let things get this far?

  • @adrianrivas26
    @adrianrivas26 5 років тому +13

    Nice video! Seems like you missed Grunts (Unggoy) on your list of technologically capable species though.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 2 роки тому +1

      They're not.
      They were uplifted (sorta) by the Covenant, can barely gather enough information over their lives to become a preacher in their grey years, and don't even want to be in the covenant.
      They need a few more million years of evolution before they can start getting organized on their own.

  • @cousinvinnie6222
    @cousinvinnie6222 5 років тому +3

    8:24 What about our smol bois, the Grunts? They were technologically capable before the firing of the rings.

  • @alexanderjohnson2309
    @alexanderjohnson2309 4 роки тому +1

    Shield sound for "baseless speculation ahead" warning is just golden. That was so great! Hahaha

  • @desssperato5420
    @desssperato5420 3 роки тому +2

    I like the Precursor idea. It's an easy and fascinating way to introduce them into the games as either plot points or a new enemy faction.

  • @thehaloscrolls391
    @thehaloscrolls391 5 років тому +8

    To think, TO THINK, I wouldn’t know what the meddlers were before this video, and I call myself a “true halo fan” lmao

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon 5 років тому +9

    You should do a short series about your perfect Halo Military. Any modern faction, from the Insurrection Wars to the Created Uprising. Army, Marines, Starfighter/Air-force Corp., & Space Navy.

    • @jakeedgell591
      @jakeedgell591 5 років тому

      Well the marines and odst are about all we see in halo games

    • @Mega-Brick
      @Mega-Brick 5 років тому

      He'd have to go with a Covenant navy, for sure. The Covenant had the more effective navy.

  • @guatemalaninsanitypepper1322
    @guatemalaninsanitypepper1322 2 роки тому +2

    Would love a video to bring this topic back to life, Considering 343 basically did massive amounts of digging in old forgotten halo lore, I wouldn't be suprised at all if the Harbinger and or Endless are the meddlers.

  • @thegreatkoorosh7407
    @thegreatkoorosh7407 5 років тому +1

    You are the first to tackle the mystery of the meddlers in such an expanded way, was waiting to hear more About them ever since the Halo 1 terminal! finally got some lil answeres! This once again legitimices you as being the Lord of Halo Lore!

  • @CallMeIcarus538
    @CallMeIcarus538 5 років тому +76

    i have never clicked a video so fast lol
    But seriously this is the earliest i have ever been to a video XD
    posted 39 seconds ago

  • @dominiccingoranelli3071
    @dominiccingoranelli3071 5 років тому +95

    HiddenXperia, I have a question for you:
    Have you ever had a dream that, you um you had, you, you, you could, you could, you could do, you, you you, you want, you want, you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

  • @justawesome3239
    @justawesome3239 2 роки тому +4

    What if they turn out to be the endless

  • @AloneInWonder2683
    @AloneInWonder2683 Рік тому +4

    The Endless match all the descriptions of the Meddlers.

  • @opticalraven1935
    @opticalraven1935 2 роки тому +3

    What if the Meddlers were the Endless? It'd make sense why Guilty Spark was afraid of the Autumn.

  • @NeoVault_
    @NeoVault_ 5 років тому +8

    Master Chief likes to opens things that should've been left alone. *Cough* Halo 4 *cough*

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 2 роки тому

      What did Chief open up in Halo 4? The Didact opened his own shield world and cryptum.

  • @Sk8foxx
    @Sk8foxx 5 років тому +1

    It's videos and topics like these that just really drag me into a lore/story mode, and I couldnt be more excited for the future of Halo's story.

  • @Groundbreaker300
    @Groundbreaker300 5 років тому +6

    The Wolf-Faced planet was the location where the remaining Human forces retreated after Charum Hakkor had Fallen in the Human-Forerunner wars. In the face of inevitable defeat, the human fleet razed the system Bombarding its planets to ruin and polluting them for millions of years to come. HidddenXperia please do a video on this, Iv thing those remaining humans left the galaxy before those Halo Array fire

  • @thearbiter3351
    @thearbiter3351 5 років тому +20

    I love your vids man!!Keep up the great ICONIC work!

  • @Groundbreaker300
    @Groundbreaker300 5 років тому +5

    What about the ancient human empire remnants at the wolf planet after they lost the Human-Forerunner war, they bombarded the planet , they had 3 specific classes of ship.

  • @greggeverman5578
    @greggeverman5578 4 роки тому +2

    The music on this channel is always so well chosen! Thanks, bud!

  • @Ivan_Ooze
    @Ivan_Ooze 5 років тому +1

    There is nothing I love more then good lore. Thanks for all these vids

  • @jamesshedinn
    @jamesshedinn 2 роки тому +4

    Having played infinite, I now wonder if the Meddlers were the Endless... hmmmm...

  • @Mendez_Trucker
    @Mendez_Trucker 2 роки тому +3

    This video hits different now we know about The Endless

  • @rodrigomelendez1545
    @rodrigomelendez1545 5 років тому +2

    I loved this video, it shows that halo still has the potential of being that mysterious and obscure series it once was.

  • @davidlee528
    @davidlee528 4 роки тому +1

    Just subbed, wish I found your channel years ago. Thank you for your work and time. Love the content and energy.

  • @thedreamchasers7252
    @thedreamchasers7252 5 років тому +4

    Cool video, love these speculation/ theory videos.
    I have a theory, something possibly terrifying. Back in the Forerunner Flood war, some Flood hijacked power space craft like the forerunners and due to their combined intelligence, may have sent some of them outside of the galaxy to escape the Halo’s range. Possibly even encountering another galaxy with no powerful defense like a halo to save them. And now they sit out there dormant in space, possibly with the knowledge from the past Gravemind. And one day they will return, in massive numbers through slip-space, like the moment from Reach when the full covenant forces arrived, but instead being full of flood.

  • @Xozkov
    @Xozkov 5 років тому +3

    Oh yeah, that unknown ship in wreckage is the back-tail of an SDV-class corvette that just lacks detail.

  • @gladiator5365
    @gladiator5365 5 років тому +2

    The mystery ship in the CE Anniversary cutscene/ terminal looks like a reaper from Mass Effect.

  • @jamiemcallister9611
    @jamiemcallister9611 5 років тому +1

    Man I love you work! Been a massive halo fan from the age of 6, 21 now lol. Its great how much detail you get into. I just want to know more, more and more haha. I'm very familiar with A LOT of halo lore but even you've surprised with information I wasn't even aware of. I loved the precursors vids and Faber the master builder. Keep it up!!

  • @FlyingVHockey
    @FlyingVHockey 5 років тому +4

    Holy shit, backwash being located above cold storage is such a great theory! I wouldve never thought

    • @Mega-Brick
      @Mega-Brick 5 років тому +3

      Did you know that Halo 3's "Isolation" might be right next to Valhalla? The big metal wall on Valhalla matches the one in Isolation

    • @FlyingVHockey
      @FlyingVHockey 5 років тому

      Rhas 'Churol yeah ive thought that! I first got that idea in the old red vs blue episode where they crash the warthog through that wall and move from isolation to valhalla lol

    • @Mega-Brick
      @Mega-Brick 5 років тому

      @@FlyingVHockey Oh, right! Completely forgot about that. Sorry, thought I was sharing something a bit less obvious than that. My bad.

    • @FlyingVHockey
      @FlyingVHockey 5 років тому

      Rhas 'Churol all good dude!! Theres still a lot of people who havent seen rvb and wouldnt think the two are connected so its definitely still interesting! I remember i didnt see that episode for like 4 or 5 years after halo 3 came out and i never once thought those two maps could be connected

  • @cczyro195
    @cczyro195 5 років тому +3

    Omg i love you so much!! Keep it up!!!

  • @DarkLawify
    @DarkLawify 5 років тому

    Catching up on videos from over the Christmas break, I'm glad you touched onto this. I was only saying to a friend the other day that there were species outside of the human, forerunner, covenant, precursor mix and that we just know little about them as they pop up here and there. Glad I'm not tripping.. that's what he told me lol

  • @bryanbasave1295
    @bryanbasave1295 5 років тому

    Man... This lore is so SO rich in history n how you portray the actions of the universe... Man, I LOVE IT!!! BY FAR, THIS CHANNEL IS MY FAVORITE HALO CHANNEL ON THE TUBEYOU!!!
    BRAH, PLEASE KEEP IT UP!!!
    I always look forward for your videos to be released

    • @bryanbasave1295
      @bryanbasave1295 5 років тому

      N I've always wondered what that ship was that came crashing down on the halo ring when they were shot off into the galaxy. 343 found it n was puzzled about it n 343 wasn't the only one 😲😨

  • @burneryt38
    @burneryt38 5 років тому +27

    Fastest I've ever clicked on a video. Thank you!

    • @Zeoinx69
      @Zeoinx69 5 років тому +1

      Did you turn on the clicker afterburners to go Mach speed click?

    • @burneryt38
      @burneryt38 5 років тому

      @@Zeoinx69 you know it lol

  • @FireFox64000000
    @FireFox64000000 5 років тому +4

    That first ship that spark encountered, that was only emitting a distress signal, could have simply been a leftover flying through space after the firing of the halos. At least that's my theory.
    Although I am quite curious who is leftover it is.
    Also you forgot the grunts in your list of technologically capable species.

    • @ThelVadam7777
      @ThelVadam7777 2 роки тому +1

      Are they technologically capable though??

    • @FireFox64000000
      @FireFox64000000 2 роки тому +2

      @@ThelVadam7777 every grunt you've ever met has been a child soldier forced into servitude. Their species is actually incredibly smart and learns incredibly quickly. In fact if they hadn't of kind of Apocalypsed themselves they would be a galactic empire.
      Unfortunately they did ruin their own world and the covenant scooped them up because they breed like rabbits and a grunt of about two or three weeks old is fully capable of using all of their weapons.
      The older grunts who have become more well-educated function as translators due to their incredible talent for language. The covenant doesn't actually need translation software because of what these guys can do.
      I recommend looking up a video on the tragedy of the grunts. It'll ruin the fun of killing them but I think it kind of needs to be ruined honestly.

    • @ThelVadam7777
      @ThelVadam7777 2 роки тому +1

      @@FireFox64000000 but they aren’t technologically capable cause they screwed themselves.
      And i know if the grunts and simply… don’t really care

    • @FireFox64000000
      @FireFox64000000 2 роки тому

      @@ThelVadam7777 They learn quick. That can be fixed.

  • @theseekerofancienttruth3873
    @theseekerofancienttruth3873 Рік тому +1

    That Squid-looking Crashed Ship from the Terminals looks like it is either a Sovereign-class Reaper or a Transport-class Reaper.
    Addendum: Its profile matches that of Sovereign if he got half of his stern hull blown off (the long part on the end opposite the "Legs")

  • @cedarlynn
    @cedarlynn 5 років тому

    Thanks so much for making this video!

  • @marcuss9181
    @marcuss9181 5 років тому +25

    Unpopular opinion All the main line halo games are really fun even 4 and 5. They all have good stories except 5.

    • @jakeedgell591
      @jakeedgell591 5 років тому +5

      Halo 4 with Cortana's mood swings felt... Cumbersome. Halos 1-3 and odst were awesome and reach wasn't too bad either

    • @pogwog5309
      @pogwog5309 4 роки тому

      i agree dude

    • @Johnspartan296
      @Johnspartan296 3 роки тому

      All of them had good stories up until 5. 5 had a dumpster fire story.

  • @geronimo5537
    @geronimo5537 5 років тому +3

    My theory is, these are ancient ships from the forerunner and flood war. Millions of these ships were left floating in space and crashed into places as they slowly drifted forgotten in time.

    • @nihilityjoey
      @nihilityjoey 5 років тому

      Then why didn't guilty spark recognise it as forerunner?

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 5 років тому +1

      @@nihilityjoey because the flood consumed more than just the forerunner species. additionally guilty spark does not know all aspects of his species. so it is very possible the ship was above his knowledge classification.

  • @briancummins7230
    @briancummins7230 3 роки тому +1

    I have ALWAYS wanted to know more about that ship! That part of the lore has always been such a mystery! Thanks for this video...😉

  • @ShineyFace1337
    @ShineyFace1337 5 років тому +1

    A new species would be awsome to encounter to be honest,
    You dig really deep into halo lore and that's why you deserve more subs

  • @lukebeakum1316
    @lukebeakum1316 2 роки тому +5

    The Meddlers are actually the same race as The Harbinger from Halo Infinite.

  • @sharkuel
    @sharkuel 5 років тому +7

    Actually, I would love to see a Forerunner faction return to the Milky Way, and make their own version of "Reclamation" over the Galaxy.

  • @brandonaustin4154
    @brandonaustin4154 5 років тому +1

    Big plot twist, they're scouts from an oncoming invasion that Cortana emping Everyone makes us suddenly incredibly vulnerable to.

  • @javierchiu9781
    @javierchiu9781 5 років тому

    I've been waiting for this ❤️