The Truth On ATPL Exams - Key Advice On How To Succeed
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2018
- The ATPL Exams are something which everyone has to get through to move onto Commercial Pilot Training. In this video, with a little help from my friends, we help you with advice on how to pass and get through all 14 exams.
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I'm just about to finish mine - taken me 15months around a full time job and 2 small kids. A huge amount of information to get through but it is possible with continuous effort (at least 15hours a week) ramping that up to a good 3-4 hours a day on the QBs in the 3-4 weeks before the exams. Unfortunately some of the questions are so oddly phrased and there are so many gotchas that it's mandatory to do the banks as well as the books notes, videos and classroom courses. I'm on a 94% average from that, which surprises me! Don't forget to keep up a bit of flying at the same time so that you remember why you're doing it!
Congratulations! What ground school did you join for your ATPL?
Congratulations:) all an achievement if working and kids in the family. I did my ppl while working and a baby and it was a hard time to combine;)
@@marcobiava8363 bgs
Having completed my Atpl last Wednesday I could have been in this video ;) I did it with Air Bartolini in Poland, using BGS :D I had my ground school 1 year ago and completed my Atpl in 12 months so!
For my background I have a Master in Science in Control engineering, I've been working as Control Specialist Engineer for 3 years.
What I can say is that your background is not a reason to find it easy or hard to pass... the most difficult part of the Atpl is not to understand or Math (basically you only need X-products, Cos/Sin and Pythagore formula), but the volume of knowledge that you have to learn, and for that you can only learn and learn again...
I passed the Atpl with an average of 91,5%, in 4 sessions with no fail;
I heard that the Atpl in UK is very hard, in Poland it was much more easier, using the BGS QB I think that I had more than 85% content closes to the exams answers...
I only opened 3 books for the whole Atpl: MET, Gnav and M&B... for the first you can't understand without learning the theory behind, for Gnav you need to look some examples and understand the methods, for M&B the same.
For all the other modules, I simply did and did again the QB. But not like a goat, I looked for the answers and the explainations and tried to summerize it in some memory sheets. It was learning by trying and it worked so well for me, the content of a module can't often cover the whole theory described in a book, so try to find the main frame in the exam and write your sheets, you can learn only using this method without problem.
I spent 2-3 hours per day most of the time, it was after work, it's demanding, but you have to do it if it's the goal of your life ;)
You have to balance your time to not become crazy, so from my side: Job 8-18, pause and eating with my wife when back, 20:00-20:30 watching TV news, 20:30-23:00 Atpl, 23:00-00... PS4 (yes really =) ) and for the motivation, I tried to fly every we to do my time building, except 2-3 weeks before an exam.
I wish you the best to all of you who are involved in the Atpl... it's not easy, but if you work for it, you'll get it :)
Thanks Xavier, this was really useful to read. Congratulations for passing your ATPL exams!
xavier savaris really thanks so much it’s such a good schedule and I like it
bro soon I am starting ventum air in warsaw poland. Do you think is it possible to 0-atpl in 12 months if i pass everything at once ? or min 18 months?
Thank you so much very helpful
xavier savaris bonjour Xavier, où en es-tu à présent ? Merci pour ce commentaire que je relis régulièrement pour me donner du courage. J’ai commencé l’ATPL théorique en janvier. C’est effectivement une vraie bataille !
Great video and advice. At nearly 60 and having studied for many non aviation exams, your video contains many generic and useful exam tips/ideas. Good luck to all you future airline pilots!
Strong video, bringing back bad memories of my ground school! All about finding what works for you.
Epic video Ben! Massive thanks to all those who contributed to the making of it and taking time to send in there valuable knowledge. Huge thank you to Ben for putting this all together. I really appreciate work you have done on this and other videos and sure all of ur other subscribers would say same! Thanks again!!!
Cheers Kevin!
A really helpful and encouraging video. Doing the CB-IR theory exams at the moment and that's only 7 of the 14 ATPL exams and I am finding it pretty hard going. As one of the contributors said - you just have to keep going and work at it and it will fall in to place. Many thanks Ben
That was a great video. You have to appreciate the work that was put into it. Cheers mate
Well put together video, really appreciate you taking the time to make this!
Thanks a lot Brandon, good luck with yours.
Fantastic video and thanks for the insight.
Well done, Ben, I'm so pleased for you.
Cracking video Ben - I'm part way through the ATPL's and this was really useful and motivating! Just what I needed to hear to help me get through them. Really appreciate all the advice you and your friends have given. Hope your training is going well. Cheers again.
Thank you Ciaran, good luck finishing yours off, you will get there even though it feels like a long time away!
First of all, massive congratulations on your achievement Ben! Secondly, I'm glad I'm "stopping" at PPL. It has always been a pleasure following your channel and I wish you all the best in your career, wherever it takes you. A very interesting insight into the effort and angst that are part and parcel of becoming an AT Pilot.
Thanks a lot Steve!
This was the most useful video, thank you guys
Excellent advice and well presented. Nice work Ben
Thank you!
Thanks so much for sharing your expérience with us
Great video and advice as usual Ben!
Thanks a lot Dan!
Brilliant video mate from someone whos wondering what the next step is for the atpls! Cheers
Ben, great video and inspiration for the future..! PPL student at the moment but the ultimate aim is CPL via the modular route. Great vids, from another Ben!
Thanks a lot Ben, good luck with all your training!
it cant be any better video for aspiring pilot like me. massive thanks to Ben
Good luck with all of your goals!
Very well put together, lots of excellent advice in there!
hi CAX,
can you please recommend some good flying schools.
Excellent video. I'm currently researching ATPL exams and schools as I am looking to embark on a distance learning course (somewhere) as I am hoping to become a F.I. I am a 38 years old PPL holder with 150 hrs P1, and currently doing an aeros rating. Thanks for your advice.
At 66 my flying days are over but I found this video very interesting indeed. Good luck Ben & all all those who contributed in this video, may your careers be fulfilling & rewarding. I’ll be following you.
Thanks a lot Michael.
Commercially perhaps but what about privately? Are you still flying something?
ianrkav No, sadly. I lost most of my hearing 76% deaf. Last thing I ever flew was a micro light with a James Bond stunt pilot in the 90’s.
@@michaelsummers9579 I can empathise with that. I had some ear problems when I was younger but had no problems flying in unpressurized aircraft up to about 10,000ft. However on a 747 flight to Oz back in '92 I had both ear drums pushed right in and perforated. Same thing happened coming back too. As I got older though these problems sorted themselves out and it doesn't happen anymore. Or maybe the pressure systems in modern aircraft are just better:-)
ianrkav My hearing loss happened in an instant. Most people think hearing loss is a volume thing but it’s not. It’s like trying to read a book which has words, letters or parts thereof missing. The worst thing is the brain tends to make sense of what it thinks it’s heard, often embarrassingly wrong! I’m still passionate about aviation though & love to see the young making aviation their career like Ben.
I’ll be starting my ATPL exams once I’ve qualified in my new job as a train driver as I don’t want to over encumber my brain. I’m a PPL with 111 hours total and my goal now is to become a part time FI alongside driving trains full time (and perhaps become a first officer in the long future). I’ve forgotten quite a bit of the theory, but I loved learning the ppl stuff so I guess I’ll find ATPLs just as good when I come to do it in the near future. Thanks for the insightful video!
Finally taking my first six subjects of ATPL exams on the 27th and 28th this month in Sweden after they got cancelled in Austria in March due to Covid-19. I must say I am excited to finally get these over with!
It's easy to drown in the sheer volume in ATPL study, the thing I find helps is to start hitting the question banks as soon as possible, even if you haven't completed all the learning material yet. This helps you build familiarity with how the questions are asked and the topics that come up the most, therefore you can focus your efforts on learning what's needed for the exam rather than trying to memorise the entire subject
Ben, I'm only just watching this now as I'm 25% of the way through mod 1 theory learning and now only just starting to figure it all out haha. Quite a daunting thing to undertake but vids like this definitely help!
Good luck with it all!
Amazing and really helpful video👌🏻👌🏻
Great Content Mate...I just bought my first plane here in Pennsylvania N710GG and ill be finishing up my PP license asap..Thanks for the Info!
Great video, very helpful. I’m at the start of my ATPLs and seem to be getting bogged down writing notes. You mention make brief notes but it’s hard to determine what needs to be noted and what doesn’t? How did you manage with that?
Inspirational stuff! Just passed my PPL skills test and will be going for the class 1 medical soon. If all goes well will be starting my ATPL’s before the end of the year.
hi liam, what school r u gonna go to?
Hi Ben
Really interesting video. Just been watching you aerobatic video and wondered why pilots wear the white gloves?
Cheers
I do really enjoy all of this aviation knowledge. My frustration is, I feel like I only 'hit some high spots' but I want to know more. There is a lot of information on the internet. That's about where I am now. I still need lots of work on my health, I'm older, and I'm waiting until the time is right, I feel confident that I know each subject, at least, in depth, and I can be able to pass the lot of exams, well, maybe not just right away, but can keep going … drilling myself until I'm comfortable. I know it's lots of work. I was thinking if I could be an older Medi-transport pilot, maybe in a small GA plane!
First 😁 I’m liking it and only 20 seconds in
Hey Ben, any chance you wouldn't mind sharing how you organised your subjects per module, or if you stuck to the BGS default would you have taken the exams in a different order in hindsight? Thanks a lot for the insight! Killian
I 100 % question banked my way through 10/14 exams so far. Not opened the books once and since the lessons are online I didn't really pay too much attention there, i am going the hardcore way and i really question my stupid brain sometimes. WHY do I always want stupid challenges like that. Also i saw the girl that was sharing her experience on tv last night! Congrats to her!
Great video Ben and well done on getting through that whole working the hours you do! Do you think it’s worth having the written manuals? Or just the digital stuff?
I liked the written manuals but I didn’t tend to use them too much, most the CBT software.
Plane Old Ben thanks!
Thanks Ben, I’m struggling through my first module, distance learning with BGS and this video has gave me that inspiration again. I’m a teacher and struggle to find time where I am not tired or planning. However, based on the advice in your video, I am going to change my strategy and hopefully make my studying more worthwhile and effective. Keep up the great videos, and best wishes for the future.
Good luck with it all!
I getting close to the end of my ATPL's. Did seven in April, three in June, three last week now in September (Met, Air Law and Aircraft General Knowledge), waiting for the results next week (no instant grade in Norway :( ). Instrumentation left for October. So far passed all (fingers crossed for last weeks exams).
I have been at it since the summer of 2017. First I read all the books (Oxford) then used the Aviation Exam question base. The books gives a good basis, and the question base is needed in part for revising, partly for understanding how EASA asks questions. Without the database I would not have passed, that's for sure. My tactic with the database was to go through it once subject by subject, make notes of things I found hard. When I had done all questions I made a spreadsheet with all categories and put down the percentage I got on the first time through. Then I worked my way through it going from worst to best subject until I had all categories at 80% or more. Make notes as needed. Some categories I went through four times, some one or two. When this was done I used the function in the database to show me the worst 100 questions in each subject. I did quite a few times to wrap my head around those questions, and worst case scenario memorize questions that never wanted to lock in to my brain.
The last few days before the exam I came back and did general practice tests with all categories like it would be in the exam to get a broad revision of the entire subject. So far this has lead me to scores between 82% and 100% with an average 91%.
One thing to note though is that there is differences between all EASA countries on what type of questions you get, how up to date they are, and what you can bring to the exam. Norway still has only multiple choice questions, but I understand the UK has questions where you have to write the answer. Norway allows the use of the CAP documents, many others don't. The Jeppesen Student Manual is great for some subjects but useless for others. I found having a dictionary available was nice in Human Performance since some of the technical terms are actually explained in it, and it saved me a couple of errors. Finding your own way to study is key, and having good structure is important. At first it seems impossible, but when you dig in to a subject and categorize it a bit you start to see patterns, get the big picture of some things that help you answer more questions. You start to see what areas are easy and where you struggle and need to put in the work.
Good luck to everyone, and I love the comment "I am a ATPL theory survivor" :D
Good luck finishing it all off Thomas.
I had the same problem with Air Law three days ago in Madrid. Failed it. Lots of new questions.
6:22 looks like a AELF and he caught my heart
Very informative that Ben ;)
Thanks a lot Andy!
Awesome 👍🏼
Nice that the system has been improved. I did my ATPLs 16 years ago, with Bristol. Alot has changed, they had 2 portacabins at Bristol Airport. I also had to completed the fixed wing exams as there wasn't a helicopter course at the time. Needless to say I have never had to fly a great circle or load a 737. A change for the better! Best of luck to all doing their exams.
Thanks for sharing this Ben. I may have a dumb question for you but I’ll ask anyway... what’s the difference between the CPL and the ATPL exams? If I’m aiming for FI rating but not the airline stuff is a CPL enough? :) thanks again - great and informative video :)
I’m not too sure of the differences but I think for the CPL exams you just take a few less than the ATPL exams.
what grades did you get ben? and what airline are you hoping to fly with first? Thanks
I’m currently doing ATPLs, and there’s a new spec, I’m the last cadet program to sit the old syllabus... can confirm. 80%+ bank exams lol. They don’t add anymore questions to exams so whatever is out there is now on the banks
Hey mate I just find air law too much to process, what’s your take on minimising the load?
Ben, what is the cost to start this distance learning course ?? And what is your end goal??
Hey guys. The IR section (Seven subjects/exams) takes about 4~6 months apparently, but how many hours of study approx. would that be? Also, how does the EASA IR compare to the FAA IR? How many hours ground school and subjects/exams do they have to complete before taking the 40 hrs (ish) IR course? Anyone?
Just deciding what ground school to start my ATPL with and weather to do distance learning or class based - what did you do? Did you do your PPL first? This is a great insight into something I’m quite nervous about. Thank you Ben 👍🏽
You cant do distance learning without , PPL
I'm currently studying for my PPL exams and wish to pursue a career in the airline industry. This video has given me a great insight as to what the ATPL exams are like. Keep it up!
Thanks Christian good luck with your PPL and the next stages after that!
All, please note the database for EASA ATPL exams has now changed for students sitting their first exams from Sept 2020. I sat EASA ATPL exams Sept 1st to 3rd 2020 in Ireland under the IAA. There is a much greater standard required now. ECQB06 Databanks won’t help you. The new standard is ECQB2020. The questions are KSA orientated and not strictly theoretically based. There is a big difference.
Hi Ben, just out of curiosity is the good percentage pass mark overall or per exam?
How hard is cpl theory in relation with atpl and is there still just 6 sittings for cpl?
I studied with Bristol Ground School more than 10 years ago
guys I need your help!...I just finished my GNAV and performance classes last 3 weeks ago.. currently I have 28 days to prepare these two subjects...and I am wondering if I should just study it by doing question banks or go through the textbook and right a notes or else?
i ve sone atpl before and now i need to resit exams due to expiry and applying for line training i need to get it done again!!!! worst than anything i can imagine it was hell !! easy to pass but really not easy to get good grade
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Is the new data banks are helpful for the new ATPL?
Hello, if I hold CPL from argentina, can I get a job and work with it in Europe?
How important/essential for a training pilot to get a PPL, before studying for ATPL
Not at all
You’ll end up doing this in training however it may help to get the feel of flying to do a few trial flights but it’s not essential at all and if you haven’t done a PPL you aren’t at a noticeable disadvantage compared to those who have
I've passed the exams due to an Aviationexam subscription. This is not spam. It is my advice. One round on exhaustive, another one with the questions seen in your country and that's it. I do not memorize them. Just learned the topic through the questions asked and their explanations.
Lmao one round is not nearly enough. Probably did a 100 times exhaustive and still failed because of to strong altered weird questions. The database is outdated.
@@lindensd6273 That method worked for me but you might need other approach. It’s not about going over a test hundred times, but to write down any tricks, understand the logic behind the answers… Good luck on your next try.
Do you recommend the ATPL Bristol Question Bank; or perhaps any other tips you have for ATPL exam? I am planning to pursue in flying school in the future. Thank you
@@danielrasheedi Sure! Atplq might be even better than Avex nowadays. Good luck!
hi the real aviation exam will be given from ECQB?
Where can I get a question Bank?
Good
Wow good talking for pilot
Has anyone got any question bank websites?
Have you.now passed all exams.??
My advice? Simple, just study your ass off! Then you should pass. The FAA has study banks of more than 9,000 questions and answers plus a truckload of subjects. The exam, 125 questions to pass with a 100% score. This means that you need to get at least 90 questions correct to pass the exam. Ah, you get 4 hours to sit the test. When I did my FAA ATPL, I found the written portion very doable. There were lots of performance questions and Human Factors questions. I got a 93% passing score.
Hi Ben really good videos as always,will it be possible to contact Xavier Savaries would be grateful.
How difficult is learning in terms of Mathematics and Physics for a pilot?
It isnt difficult you need basic math an physics for be a pilot
Pythagoras theorem
Trigonometry (using a calculator)
Ability to use formulae and rearrange them
Speed distance time
Knowledge of angles for shapes (360 in circle, 180 triangle, 180 straight line ect)
A few more things that i cant remember right now, but that’s what ive encountered so far
Is this the ICAO ATPL
The ATPL exams and modules need to be redone and focus more on practical information.
I found about 25% of the information pertinent to everyday commercial flying.
Same with the general education system
May be I will ask a strange question, but
is it possible to people in glasses with stronge lenses be a piloit?
If you can pass a class 1 medical certificate then there's no reason why not, you can access the criteria online.
I find it impossible to pass a class 1 medical certificate with myopia or hyperopia.
@@Airline-direct I passed mine, I have myopia and I wear glasses. Noted it's not excessive. If you go on your country's CAA website you should get the criteria.
Did I understand right that you should wear glasses during passing? I thought the only LASIK can help with it.
Hello, I’m wearing glasses too (myopia) and I passed my certificate class 1
So you can do it !
I passed all atpl exams:D
How did you study for it ?
Any link or name of the question bank ?
App: Aviation exam
Most of people I knew did just by question Bank, if u think u will be able to pass it by understanding well good luck
You gotta do both! You gotta understand it as well as running the question bank. As we say in my flying school, when we are at a job interview and they ask us questions we can't just say "Charlie" we gotta explain it. Also understanding the questions and why the answers are the way they are, instead of just memorizing them is what will make you a great pilot, not "just" a pilot
I flew 36 hours in the US in 1998 but never continued when I returned. Post-lock down, 22 years later, I decided to restart flying lessons. I've only flown 27 hours but started running low on funds (no thanks to international business trips and new contracts taking time to come through) so last year, I decided to focus 100% on completing my PPL ground schools.
Bit of background. I'm an aerospace engineering graduate and I also have 2 * MSc so studying for exams has never been an issue (although I've always hated them). I knew the PPL exams had changed format not not only did I study the PPL question bank but also the questions in the Pooleys books, I also studied the material inside and out. On top of that, I also found a question bank from an flight school over in Europe. Some questions were irrelevant whereas most were very similar. Out of a question bank of ~260 question, I'd get 3 wrong.
So, you can imagine how utterly p*ssed off I was when I failed Ops and Flight Planning. With Ops, I complained to the CAA and they replied and said "oh yeah, that's an ATPL question and shouldn't have been in the exam...but it doesn't change the outcome".
The CAA went from one extreme (i.e., memorising question banks and therefore very easy) to the other extreme (i.e., questions which aren't even in the books).
I would have much preferred (for PPL exams) that they ask you answer 60 questions instead of 16. That way, you'd need a lot more knowledge but can still get 15 questions wrong and pass. While that sounds like a lot, it would mean you'd get 45 questions correct.
As an aerospace engineering graduate who really did study all the material (including books), and still ended up failing 2 of my PPL exams, I'm not looking forward to the ATPL exams; especially since some of the books are over 500 pages each!
I did my ATPL exams in 2011🤣
I do not now if you guys aiming to shoot motivation video or give ATPL students some tips and tricks .. But i am sure that you have fall in both ways .
Thank you, it was a bit of both!
Wouldn’t bother now. COVID has killed ANY chance of non-Type Rated, EXPERIENCED pilots getting job. We have 3 airline captains instructing with us as bog standard PPL FIs. Industry is dead for now.
The industry will be back within 12-18 months. There was a huge pilot shortage before this mess, there will be again. Getting started now might now actually be the worst idea as by the time you’ve finished it’ll likely be recovered. It’s the people in training right now or close to being finished with it (like me) who are sadly going to be facing the brunt of the lack of positions for a while
@@abingdonboy Yep. I've 1030 hours. MEIR PBN blah blah. Had 3 interviews lined up: 2 cx & I withdrew from one - no point. Hundreds of TR airline pilots chasing it. I'm "just" an FI.