Never Released SatAM Based Sonic Game
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2007
- I found this while looking up Sonic X-treme... this was the second concept that later developed into Sonic X-treme and it was based on SatAM, the Sonic TV show that aired sometime in 1994.
Thanks to Sega 16 for this... - Розваги
To clear up misconceptions, SatAM--backed by Sega of America--was in production in 1992, and aired during the 1993 and 1994 years (in the unreleased season 3 that was cancelled, we would have seen the maturation of Tails, the rise of Snively and Nagus as primary villains, and the introduction of Knuckles). Too bad the show ended before any of that could occur, all thanks to new management and the high ratings for the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers.
Knuckles would've been LeVar Burton, I know it!!
@@YuukiTakemoto1996 or maybe Gregg Eagles.
But what if Knuckles the Echdina plus Achidna ancient.mythical Echidnas Tribe)never existed and never were created?
The game would have featured two modes. Some levels would have been high speed chases like classic sonic games (running amuck in the factories causing damage and escape through the forest) while other levels were stealth mode (slower for exploration, sneeking etc..) like what we see in this video.
You could say it's the developers fault for showing this footage to Yuji Naka instead of one of the faster scenes. It would have left a better impression. I believe this was coming from Morawiec.
The funny thing is how he was okay with Tails Adventure tho. 🤔🤔🤔
@Carter Kwakye-Safo Ha! We were all too loyal to Nintendo for that to ever be a remote possibility.
@Carter Kwakye-Safo I doubt they successfully stole any gamers from Nintendo.
@Carter Kwakye-Safo - yeahh some of us liked both already so...
@@ElvenRaptor well they stole me if that’s anything worth mentioning.
And as we know, SatAM was already airing--making Sally Sonic's love interest--before Sonic CD was made. Unfortunately, this didn't stop developers from calling Amy "Princess Sally" in the US game's manual in order to tie-in with the cartoon, even though Amy was NOT in the cartoon!
It's interesting to see early concepts and unused ideas like this!
Hey, guess what?
I'm a diehard Sonic fan, and this doesn't bother me at all. Infact it fit's the SatAM cartoon feel quite well.
I agree. It's too bad there's no fan game of the canceled Satam game.
I would of loved to have this as a game. I kept waiting for them to drop one.
yes... it sucks they wasted such potential
@@tails_the_god it looks totally antithetical to what Sonic is about though
@@JackSardonic why? I mean Sonic's been in some games that were different then his usual... Like the olympics and spinball
@@JackSardonic No, it's not. Even (and especially so) in the 16-bit era, strategy & timing were necessary to actually beat the games. The stealth levels were to show that Sonic wasn't just about quickness & that the title character had to actually use his brains rather than just his trademarked speed to avoid hazards, ranging from projectile throwing Badniks, armies of Swatbots, spikes coming out of the ground, pitfalls, moving platforms, etc.
@@JackSardonic The subtle environmental messages found in the weekend cartoon & the good VS evil, nature VS machine battle between the Freedom Fighters against the forces of Dr. Robotnik/Dr. Eggman were the core premise behind the original Sonic plot. Sonic's true creators Naoto Oshima & Yuji Naka even said so themselves during Facebook interviews they conducted in 2010.
Happy 30th anniversary, STI's Sonic SatAM tie-in videogame "Sonic-16" prototype!
The idea of having to sneak around is pretty cool, because in the show they couldn't just rush in head first even with Sonic's amazing speed. The problem here is that Sonic's speed isn't really getting a chance to shine at all, they should've had a chase scene, or something, in this demo. Gameplay like this would've probably been better suited to someone like Sally or Bunny. In fact, since in the series whenever they're infiltrating Robotropolis they always do it as a group, it'd be really cool if they made the game play more team orientated, like Legend of Mana, and you could switch to the Character that's better equipped for the task at hand. Just a thought.
In any event, speaking as a huge fan of the show, it's a shame this never really got off the ground. Even if I can see why SEGA wasn't crazy about the idea.
Woah. This Gam looks like it was going to be friggin awesome. Sonic + Sleath = Awesome!
Man, 12 years later (or however many there were, I dunno), and I still really think this could've been a really cool thing.
It's interesting how far the ring throwing mechanic went. After 16 died it was going to be reused for Sonic 3 yet was scrapped along with the drop dash, then the ring throwing mechanic was going to be used for Sonic Xtreme as an attack for Amy Rose but Xtreme ended up dying too
And then it finally showed up in Sonic Battle as a ranged lightspeed dash: Sonic throws a ring, which flies up and lands on the field in an arc, and then you press the R button (GBA right shoulder button) again to lightspeed dash to the ring from any direction before it disappears.
Amy could have never been changed for Adventure if she appeared in Xtreme.
Tiara would’ve played a bigger Role
..................I WOULD BUY THAT D:
Exactly! SEGA should seriously consider making games based on both the SatAM/ Archie universes using the Classic Sonic design and the games/ Sonic X universe using the modern design. By doing that and trying to appeal to fans of both eras, they'd really make a lot more money that way and ,maybe calm the storm of the fanbase in a lot of ways too. I mean, if Nintendo can make the Zelda games with Toon Link to appeal to the kids, and the games with original Link for the older fans, why can't SEGA
"Sally came before Amy, even during the time that Shogakuken owned Amy"
By this I mean that even before 1993, when SEGA bought Amy from Shogakuken as an eight-year-old fangirl with a crush on local celebrity Sonic (in the 1992 manga guest-starring Sonic and starring Amy, both of them were human-animal transformers [hence Sonikku, since the name of the boy that became Sonic was called the Japanese version of Nikku]), concepts involving proto versions of Sally were being considered in the West.
@nicholasthetaylor: See ClassicTeam's response. Plus, Ricky--Sally's inspiration--*was* in the first Sonic game, thereby making Sally herself an official Sega character conceptually (especially since American Sega itself made a comic in 1991 as a test run for what would come in the future, starring Western concepts like Mobius & proto-Sally), whereas Amy was owned by Shogakuken (see: Pokemon manga) until Sega purchased her in 1993, well after SatAM & Archie established Sally as a love interest.
I wish this game is made =/ This would have been awesome
DAT ACID TECHNO.
Somewhere out there, probably deep within the STI offices, this proto is still out there. Hidden Palace, where you at?!
@ReligiousHero Ehhh, other way around. This project led to the creation of Sonic Mars for the 32x, and THAT lead to Sonic X-Treme for Saturn (Which obviously never came to be).
If you haven't noticed, this game went through a ridiculous amount of development hell before finally being dropped. :P
lol, Wow Sonic Mars. thanks for finding the video i lost it somewhere in my jungle of Sonic X-treme files.
Beck: Actually, he came out ON Master System alongside the the Genesis. And FYI, I am American, thank you.
"Sonic the Hedgehog is a platform video game that was released in 1991 for the Sega Master System and the Game Gear. It is distinct from the more popular 16-bit game."
Although if those same concepts of speed and racing could be carried over to a fighting mechanic, it would be intense!
No, this is real. It came from an Interview Sega 16 had some time back. you think it's fake, go to them and complain about it. But after seeing a official Script written for the game thanks to Sonic Cult, I highly doubt its a fake. Who would go though all the trouble to make this anyhow?
Imagine the world if this game ever got more than a trailer.
This is not a trailer
This a concept video
Sega saw this concept and turn it off
For being terrible for being slow
If I were head of sega I would do the same
@gween: Those "weird ass universes" were approved by Sega. In particular, Sega has had involved with Archie ever since issue #70. Furthermore, because of said approval, every single Sonic-related universe is canonical in its own right.
It's no different than the 1939 MGM movie classic, the 1990 DiC cartoon, & Wicked are based around the same character and basic contnuity, whether Elphaba is played by Margaet Hamilton, voice acted by Tress MacNeille, or performed by Idina Menzel.
It's interesting how it's actually an Amiga animation serving as proof of concept.
Wow that looks awesome
Someone needs to persevered this
This game feels like a Plug and Play videogame than a Sega Saturn release.
Sega does now own all rights. There are two main branches: the American one that owns Sally & the other Freedom Fighters (i.e. SoA approved the creation of "SatAM" and Archie's comics, and although the comics came out first, they were based upon the cartoon's early concepts) and the Japanese one that owns the games (which is ironic, since SoJ's Sonic Team created Elise in 2006, and she fufills Sally's role, essentially).
Elise is nothing like Sally Acorn.
I cannot express how much I want this
Does this remind anybody else of Comix Zone?
History states that "Amy was not actually created by Sonic Team. A prototype version of her appeared in the Sonic the Hedgehog manga published on September 23, 1992, and there she was literally 'the girlfriend of Nikki (Sonic)', as the description translates." Of course, since Sally was already conceptualized before that (see the pre-SatAM storyboard ideas), Sally still predated Amy. "After that appearance, Sega took the character, and Kazuyuki Hoshino redesigned her for Sonic CD in 1993."
This is really cool.
aaaaahhh i want an underground team to start finishing this game!!!!
it was called Sonic RPG, then Sonic Jam was made
U talking about sonic adventure..
Idk about you guys but this looks awesome
@marxandkirbyrocks: She didn't die in ANY episode. Your thinking of the comics' Endgame arc, where Ken Penders had scripted in Sally's death at the hands of evil Anti-Sonic (Scourge), but when Sega of America and the fans who read the comics panned that idea unanimously, the storyline was reworked into the notion of Sally being in a Snow White-esque coma until awakened by a greif-stricken Sonic and the cliche "love's first kiss".
"Except Amy (as far as I know) wasn't bought by Sega."
Then why is she in the games, comics, and other recent Sonic media?
i feel old watching this after all those years
Even I was born in 2005, and I felt like watching it that I'm from 70s.
I would want this, because it meant Sally would be introduced to the games! No more Ken Penders/Super Genesis Wave crap!!
Gotta go slow!
"that fact that Westerners got everything (games, comics, & cartoons) first"
By this I mean the first Sonic game & its first sequels, the Sonic comic made by SEGA of America itself in 1991 as a test-run for the Fleetway & Archie comics, and of course, AoStH (Sally appeared in the Christmas-themed episode), SatAM (which inspired the Archie comics via its initial concepts), & even SU (a new twist on Sonic that failed)...which came before the OVA & Sonic X.
Why would Sonic toss away his rings? That's like Mario using his Mushroom as a land mine or Megaman using his E-Tanks as grenades.
Jokes and thinking for what this game would have been if it came out this music literally SLAPS
I wish this would sometime get cleaner footage uploaded.
Man, has anyone found the tracker song used in this yet? The ones for Comix Zone and Sonic Spinball have been found already
It's been nearly fourteen years, and I still cannot find it whatsoever. Of course, looking through pages upon pages and hours upon hours of amiga tracker music isn't doing me any favors, because there's millions of famous trackers around the web and we're unlikely to find it based on how unknown this proof-of-concept really is.
Where's the speed? There's a reason this never left the drawing board. Sonic X-treme was a shame though... that should have gone to market.
is the music from the presentation of the game or did you make it yourself? can i have a link please? i like that song
@Frost_the_polarian_fox I can link you a .mod file of it.
that looks cool. :)
@marxandkirbyrocks: That was to be in the comics, but Ken Penders opted out of that due to fans throwing a fit and SEGA of America disproving of that idea, since they still had ideas involving Sally (besides SatAM itself and the Archie comcs, there was to be a game [the one in the video], SatAM-based storybooks, coloring books, and the LIVE stage show in Sydney AUS at the now defunct SEGA World theme park [where that love song from Sally to Sonic--"Thank You For Being You"--comes from]).
I knew I wasn't crazy I remember seeing something like this in a game mag back in the day I think it was game informer I don't remember but I do know they were talking about this and and another Sat am game believe it or not game play based off the tazmainia snes game
This is all I ever wanted from a Sonic game
Sally did cameo in Spinball and through Sega Technical Institute--technical branch behind Sonic 2--this SatAM game would've given the Freedom Fighters an official appearance, but SoJ denied it, since they apparently wanted to keep continuities seperate at the time. Unfortunately, SoJ has pretty much taken all control from SoA, thereby making everything based around the Japanese canon, even though the American canon existed first. So really, if anyone's to blame for Sonic's failure, it's SoJ.
You wrote this 12 years ago so you might think differently today, but it was never going to fix anything by arguing about which race is to blame, especially since the first Sonic the Hedgehog game which wowed everyone was developed by the Japanese, and the best developers Sega of America had in-house were Sega Technical Institute and they were running on the education and tools researched and developed by Sega of Japan, especially as far as Sonic the Hedgehog was concerned. The futility of mud-slinging between different wings of the same company just ends up damaging the company as a whole. As for Sonic, he is as popular today as he ever was
@@nicholasthetaylor Nope, he thinks the same because he knows all of this is true that he's done a lot of researches. I mean, most Japanese workers/staff members/employees from SEGA of Japan and Sonic Team hate us, Americans because they're really close minded, and racists towards to us. Sonic The Hedgehog 1 was developed by both Japanese and American because they were communicating each other during the development of Sonic The Hedgehog 1. Aside from Nights engine, where developers of SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute wanted to use it for Sonic X-Treme, unfortunately, Yuji Naka was upset about it. I need a source which education and tools from SEGA of Japan were used by SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute. Well, SEGA of Japan damaged its company a lot more than ever, and they still do it to this day.
I just got this video in recommended
Why is sonic so winded and exhausted after hanging onto an aircraft for 3 seconds?
Methinks the stealthy bits would better fit Sally than Sonic
yeah true.. but idk... it adds to the epicness if sonic had some stealthy levels too
The Sega Technical Institute actually helped make Sonic 2, 3 and Knuckles.
@cornchippers The game wasn't even completed, we don't know if the game would have kept this speed or not, there are many things they could have added, removed abd changed to make for the game to have a fast pace like a Sonic game should be. Oh wel... guess we'll never know unless a miracle happens lol.
reminds me of a game like abe's oddysee or heart of darkness(in premise). where your liable to live or die in the next screen on key actions. loved the animated series wish it got made though it be pretty estranged from what sega wanted...which never seemed to pan out for STI this, sonic mars and then xtreme.missed window of opportunity with adventure and dreamcast announced in 98. oh well probably best that way.
@nicholasthetaylor: Irregardless, all of the early games that precursed everything were sent to the West first, before the Japanese in the East gave themselves anything. As such, that fact that Westerners got everything (games, comics, & cartoons) first & that Ricky was Sally's predecessor means that Sally came before Amy, even during the time that Shogakuken owned Amy, since the manga with Sonic and Amy in it was made in 1992 & concepts for cartoons and comics in the West came a year before.
I like that idea
That.. looks... awesome... like Sonic and Metal Gear made a baby.
Please provide a link to information on the "Shogakuken" Magazine proving it. I'm actually intriged by this. Rather than upset at my self for not knowing this information, I want to know for sure so that the next time this subject is brought up I'll have a real answer instead of basing it on things I already know.
Thanks for shedding some light on this rather illusive information. I'm surprised I know so much and yet there's still so much more to be discovered. :)
The SatAM game WOULD have used both the classic speed element gamers love about Sonic, as well as the stealth element derived from the show, so it would have been one of the great Sonic games, just as SatAM was the better show when pitted against the Looney Tunes-patterned AoStH, the poorly-developed Sonic Underground, and the horrific dub of the anime Sonic X.
Syndicated Sonic was much better. It fit much better into the lore of the video games. SATAM was dark and awkward.
@@NoelComiX Not really. Weekly syndicated Sonic was too much of a _Looney Tunes_ copycat wannabe.
Even Sonic's true creators (this being both before & after they had left SEGA, mind you) Naoto Oshima (Sonic's primary character designer & personality developer) and Yuji Naka (the lead SEGA Genesis/SEGA MegaDrive programmer who input Sonic's movements & impatient attitude [via his idle pose] into the 16-bit games) admitted that they loved the American take on Sonic (in particular, Naoto Oshima, who even had a poster of the _Sonic SatAM_ series on the wall of his office, despite not coming over stateside like Yuji Naka & the others who worked alongside SEGA Technical Institute did [since they're the ones directly responsible for Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and the video games intentionally inspired by the DiC cartoons, namely Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine, which had _AoStH_ style box art, Sonic Spinball that was clearly inspired by the weekend series' 2nd season debut episode "Game Guy" & even included prototype versions of Princess Sally, Bunnie Rabbot, Rotor Walrus, and Sonic's dog Muttski as characters to rescue in a Special Stage, the cancelled _SatAM_ based game Sonic-16, one of the notable scrapped ideas behind what would've been Sonic Mars/Sonic Xtreme was to feature the Freedom Fighters in the game, the engine for Sonic Xtreme being repurposed for Sonic 3D Blast that was retitled upon its debut on the SEGA Genesis/SEGA MegaDrive's SEGA CD attachment to coincide with the much-delayed holiday special _Sonic Christmas Blast_ that was originally titled _Sonic's Xtreme Christmas_ & despite using the _AoStH_ campy art style, featured Princess Sally in a sadly predominately mute cameo utilizing one of her earlier designs]), that Sonic as a brand was intentionally developed with the American consumer base in mind (granted, this was in part due to competing with rival Nintendo's successful Super Mario franchise that had debuted in the West the previous decade) & that Sonic, the character, was fleshed out using American concepts (hence, his Old Glory American flag color scheme of red, white & blue, the fact that his red & white buckled sneakers coincided with Santa Claus promoting quintessential American soda company Coka-a-Cola's soft drink around Christmastime when Sonic was set to make his stateside debut as part of the pack-in package with the SEGA Genesis that actually released in America a full month before the overseas European & Asian countries - Japan included - received their SEGA MegaDrive console counterpart, and that Sonic's "way past cool" cockiness was taken from "Me Generation" American ideals). In addition to this, Yuji Naka himself said that the subtle environmental messages found in _Sonic SatAM_ & its overall nature VS machine premise of the underdog Freedom Fighters fighting against the tyrannical dictatorship of oppressive Dr. Robotnik was the gist of the original Sonic storyline. This is why Sonic Forces revisited it years later & failed spectacularly to successfully repeat what the 16-bit videogames & the Saturday Morning animated series achieved in Sonic's '90s heyday. That, and the fact that current SEGA (handcuffed by SEGA of Japan, whose tenured members HATE the American version of Sonic) let the Archie Sonic comic writers BASTARDIZE, RUIN & then ultimately KILL OFF the Freedom Fighters, including characters that SEGA of America itself personally created out of the "tiny animal" base template sprites of Ricky the Squirrel, Pocky, and Rocky that were Sonic's original friends even before two-tailed fox Miles "Tails" Prower was introduced (namely, Princess Sally Acorn as a deliberately gender bent Ricky [hence why she's sometimes referred to as the feminized Rikki outside of the U.S.], Bunnie Rabbot as a supplement for Johnny Lightfoot [both of whom were based on Pocky] & Rotor "Boomer" Walrus, whose European counterpart is known as Joe Sushi [both of which are based on Rocky]).
@@TherealRNOwwfpooh Sounds great, although there is one glaring error. In your comment it reads as if Sega Technical Institute created the original Genesis/Megadrive games which is a misunderstanding. The Sonic Team in Japan created the original Sonic game, and then Yuji Naka (Game programmer) and Hirokazu Yasuhara (Level designer), two former members of Sonic Team left Japan to join Sega Technical Institute specifically to teach them how to make Sonic games for themselves. The product of this was Sonic 2 in spite of it being a difficult relationship due to culture clash and communication issues. However, although Sonic 2 was a huge success and Sega Technical Institute had learned a lot, the company's founder Mark Cerny had jumped ship and they were ultimately unable to make Sonic 3 without Yuji Naka and Hirokazu Yasuhara's assistance. Reluctant to go back to the states to work with Sega Technical Institute again, the original Sonic Team created Sonic 3 & Knuckles, except this time the Music was provided by Sega Technical Institute (allegedly with Michael Jackson) instead of Masato Nakamura (from the band, Dreams Come True) which is why the music sounds so different in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. If instead of Sonic Team developing Sonic 3, Sega Technical Institute had developed Sonic 3 then the resulting game would have shared more in common with other Sega Technical Institute games, such as Kid Chameleon, Sonic Spinball or Comix Zone, which are admittedly great games in their own right, they suffer from generally simpler programming techniques e.g. smaller sprites, lower frame-rates, control latency, sluggish character movement, etc, which result in a less impressive game, and since the game had to improve on the greatness of Sonic 2, development had to go back to Sega of Japan. Sega Technical Institute should not be credited for Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine either when it is in fact the Western release of Compile's Puyo Puyo game, which had some of the graphics replaced with Sonic characters in the Genesis release and Kirby characters in the Super Nintendo release. It's important to remember that the friction between Sega of Japan and Sega of America was misunderstandings due to culture and language under the pressure expected from competing to be the dominant gaming company
AoStH is actually prequel to SatAM.
@@nicholasthetaylor Um, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and other Sonic games are made by SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute. Sonic Team and SEGA of Japan made one Sonic game (before the questionable modernization of Sonic aka Sonic Adventure) without SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute developing and being associated that is Sonic CD.
"The product of this was Sonic The Hedgehog 2 in spite of it being a difficult relationship, due to culture clash, and communication issues."
Untrue, the difficult relationship started in 1995 during the development of Sonic X-Treme.
"the company's founder Mark Cerny had jumped ship and they were ultimately unable to make Sonic 3 without Yuji Naka and Hirokazu Yasuhara's assistance."
I need source of this one because I couldn't find it on the internet.
Nope, SEGA Technical Institute created Sonic The Hedgehog 3 (and Knuckles). Um, the OST of Sonic 3 have always sounded like Michael Jackson's OST even before Michael Jackson, the OST of Sonic 3 is provided by SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute along with Yuji Naka, Naota Oshima, Hirokazu Yasuhara, and others (Japanese and American developers).
"they suffer from generally simpler programming techniques e.g. smaller sprites, lower frame-rate, control latency, sluggish character movement, etc, which result in a less impressive game, and since the game had to improve on the greatness of Sonic The Hedgehog 2, development had to go back to SEGA of Japan."
I have yet to wait for the source of your quote, you probably won't even mention of (where it came from). How it was resulted in a less impressive game when it's resulted as an impressive game. Nope, development still remained in SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute. Yuji Naka and Naoto Oshima (including Hirokazu Yasuhara) were still around with SEGA of America and SEGA Technical Institute, they didn't go back to Japan after the development of Sonic The Hedgehog 2.
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine and Compile's Puyo Puyo game are both completely different games. Again, the friction between SEGA of Japan and SEGA of America weren't/aren't because of misunderstandings that you guys can't even back yourselves up. It's all because of the pitifulness, greediness, and stubbornness of SEGA of Japan (where it all started in 1995). SEGA of Japan have always hated SEGA of America because SEGA of America handled Sonic much better than SEGA of Japan did.
Golbez: How can Sega Tech. Institute steal from itself (it made Sonic Spinball & the earlier Sonic games [Sonic 2, specifically])? This was a game concept. Peter Morawiec--one of STI's cheif members--thought of it.
This was around the same time as the November 3rd prototype of Sonic 3. Both have the ring attack (though you have to hack it in/use GG codes)
Someone revive this game in fangame form please? It had so much potential.
It's more of walking adventure style game.
Nice to see, though Sonic should have some special attacks using speed.
That is a real game. An American Sega studio was working on a game based on the original show (the darker one that has Sonic supporting a rebel group) but they canned it.
I didint know what to call it. Maybe I should rename it Sonic Mars Test Demo? :P
And it's undiscovered in the perspective that you are looking from... Until you see it, you wouldint even know it existed. :P
Since i was writing in english i thought it would be correct to use BraZil instead of BraSil :)
kinda like you say Italy instead of Italia if you re speaking in english.
Now , to answer:) it was an overstatement on my part obviously. I am a Brazilian SMS games collector:) so i know what i am talking about.
It was an overstatement born from the fact that Brazil was like sega's second home .
Happy holidays by the way.
Does anybody know if the music in this video was officially used for the demo footage? Or is it fan made
Its just module music somebody found on The Mod Archive.
Ok i think I understand what this game was going to be like...Bonanza Bros but different characters have special abilities to make specific parts of a stage a snap and as for the the bosses i haven't thought that far but I think metal gear style would be cool...i wish the footage was clearer I can't duplicate the sprites
damn that looks hard
What song is playing in the background, there? I know it's a demoscene piece, but I don't remember whose or what it's called.
It's called: micheal j sez hai!
That's the one!! Thank you so much!
1:26 awsome
did u download this game? If so please give the link, i looked 4 it on sega16
Archie owns rights to its Sonic comics, but not the characters in them.
Sonic the Hedgehog and Princess Sally Acorn
Actually Melkac, Sally was owned by SoA--since she appeared in Fleetway's Sonic The Comic, AoStH: Christmas Blast, "SatAM", & Archie's comics--and if you remember your timeline, SoA existed before SoJ. Plus, Sonic--though created for game stardom by the Japanese--was conceptualized by both American and Japanese persons, with Americans being the original audience (hence why we got systems [Master System, GameGear, & Genesis], games [Sonic 1 & Sonic 2], and shows [[AoStH, "SatAM", & SU] first).
Don't forget Sally appeared in some episodes of AoSTH Season 2. Weren't American developers involved in the development of Sonic The Hedgehog 1, hence why we got a promotional comic, and Greg Martin's Sonic was drawn because of Naoto Oshima's Sonic in concept arts/drawings looked weird (because SEGA of America had to soften him up). Especially Yuji Naka was worried how Sonic looked like in the US because it wouldn't sell copies of the blue blur himself before he changed his own mind, and he started liking Americanized Sonic.
It is now!
Hmm, this looks kinda nice especially since Sonic games are essentially platformers with speed. Too bad they forgot the speed part lol but I would've loved to give this game a try.
Looks more like a stealth-platformer to me.
Either way, not really the direction I'd want Sonic to go, but... it could have been a fun spin-off game.
They never did. This video was a pitch by Sega Technical Institute that got turned down.
So we in the West DESERVE our fair share--especially since SEGA itself started in America if you look through its history with Capain N before Sonic's creation--instead of SEGA of Japan taking full control and turning Sonic largely into crap since the Dreamcast bombed (and partially earlier with Sonic Underground, instead of DiC giving us the SatAM seasons they should've given us).
Yeah speed isn't in every Sonic game! This looks like more of an adventure platformer! It looks like so much fun. I would really like to play a demo.
Someone make this I would play it till next year
Me da pena que hallan canselado este juego se veia bastante bien.
No offense should be taken, we are all entitled to our own opinions (at least as are as I know.) :)
If only.
Looks like Flashback: The quest for Hedgehog
ClassicTeam: No. She wasn't. She was owned by manga company Shogakuken, from the day she was created until 1992, when the manga guest-starring Sonic was created. In 1993, Sega precured Amy from Shogakuken, planning to use her in Sonic CD. Oddly, despite the fact that we Americans already had a love interest for Sonic--in Sally Acorn--Amy was introduced in CD's American manuals as "Princess Sally" in response to SatAM airing on TV (whereas in European and Japanese manuals, Amy remained as Amy).
Of course, Amy's reception was less than well-received. For instance, a Games Radar article called Amy's introduction "the only bitter taste" in Sonic CD, but added that "she's just a pink hedgehog here and not a whiny, annoying brat like in Sonic Adventure."
She's been a whiny annoying brat since Sonic CD, dude.
As for Madonna, the idea of using her was scrapped before the first Sonic game itself even released. I mean, to start off, Sonic himself--though JOINTLY made--was ORIGINALLY targeted towards Western audiences, so we in the States (and our neighbors in the UK) not only got the GAMES first (the first game started on the Master System & Game Game Gear in the West BEFORE the Japanese ported the MegaDrive over, rechristing it the SEGA Genesis), we also got cartoons and comics first.
This looks so fun! Why SEGA WHY!!!!
It just
Sonic 3D Blast Engine!
And
Segasonic Engine!
Good god, how do you think the developers and artists felt who put all of the man-hours into it?
Would have been nice to play sonic among Comix Zone Stages...
@ClassicTeam
Oh. Nevermind, but Sonic X-Treme became many other things to.
If I'm reading that correctly, ya. Except Amy (as far as I know) wasn't bought by Sega. She was created for the game Sonic CD that came out the same year SatAM and the Comic's where coming out. And there's no proof he likes or dislikes Amy, only speculation. Sally and Sonic, maybe... But, if I remember right, the SatAM Universe and the Game universe are two different things, so that's true SatAM-wise, but game-wise we don't know. XP