Kramnik Approved Viewer Game Analysis (Probably)
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2024
- Clip with Ben [05-12-2024]
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The Ben “rant opening” was one of the strongest plays I’ve seen in a long time.
The Grumpy Old Rant opening popularized at Hastings 1895, or was it 1066?
😂
shorter Ben: "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong."
kids are always wrong tho
Obligatory old man shakes fist at sky comment
What's a sky comment?
@@beirutleb1376 "Old man shakes his fist at the sky" type of comment.
I suppose shaking your fist at the sky it's a metaphor for an old person getting mad about the changes that are inevitable or not capable of being reversed by that person alone.
It's a Simpson's reference
Old man yells at cloud
Fischer thought it was possible to play perfectly. Magnus knows that it is not possible. We don't live in a world of nonsense. We live in a world where chess is a combat sport, not a logic problem.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It sounds like an insight, so people upvote it, but if you think about it for even a few seconds, it falls apart. Why would have Fischer thought that, and how would Magnus "know" the opposite? Chess was exactly the same "combat sport" 50 years ago as it is today.
@@istvanmagi473 Because Magnus got engines, so he knows that humans suck at chess, and so he figured it can be no more be seen as an art only as a sport .
@@istvanmagi473 What the other commenter said, but tablebases were even bigger for Magnus's understanding of human chess. He would set up endgames where White wins by force in 100 moves, and try to understand why one move was better than another, and could not. In Fischer's day, chess was considered to be a game of complete information. Now elite players know that it is a game of incomplete information, closer to poker than tic-tac-toe from a human perspective. Managing emotions and getting a comfortable game are more important than playing the absolute best move, which humans cannot do. A good example is Prag's opening choices at the Candidates.
Tell me you're old without telling me that…
this is some serious debbie downer stuff from Ben. Magnus doesn't care about WC anymore because of forced lines, long time controls and not enough matches. I don't blame him. Not to mention several months of study of the same openings trying to find some incredibly small advantage.
AS long as Kramnik approves, it's all good.
After many user requests, finally a Kramnik joke. Go Ben.
One for each of ya.
ironic that we in the silly era of chess and we still require the top gm's to dress up for events where even poker celebrities dress in pajamas for their events!
don't have fun playing a game
Ben crushing his dreams
I don't think black missed Bishop takes rook; I think black wanted to be able to castle first. But maybe that's not an important consideration.
White is dead lost on move 3, if you play a4 Ra3, at lest go to e3 or g3 if black doesnt take it, this goofy ass dude just played b3 instead, so taking it immediately is justified
Magnus is also retired, fully ... and not world champion anymore
the banned opening
this is the greatest rant I have ever witnessed
GM Finegold, You’re owed a debt of gratitude
Ah... but Fischer went crazy! And developed Fischer Random because he didn't like normal chess anymore... not sure what my point is... I guess when you reach that level you have to do something else.
As long as it's not 0, there is a chance! Thanks Ben
having watched that game, I'm almost certain the opponent was telling the truth when they claimed to be Magnus
"i feel like I'm owed something for looking at this" isn't this sub game analysis? Didn't the person who sent the game in pay $5 to get it analysed?
The good old man talk!
take chess seriously! *rawr*
Ben the voice of sanity in chess world.
That's sanity enough for so many platforms: chess, football, basketball...
Another anthology quote from Ben: "half of the chess players want to play blitz while been high or drunk and the other half is cheating".
Surely Alekhine's Defense is an early troll opening, inviting White to harass the knight with pawn moves, forcing the knight around the board.
A lot of GMs speed run on alt accounts. But they wouldn’t tell you
Great rant. Who speaks so is not stuttering.
Gawking Rebel? Well, it is Georgia. XD
rabble*
@@vivvpprof Your word sounds like my word, yet means something different. One of us must be making a joke. I wonder which one?
Ben you need "a Bex and a good lie down". Catch up on that sleep. The fundamentals are still in place and honoured. Christ look at the depth of opening study needed to compete successfully OTB. All is well young Ben🎉
LOL!
I agree, popular = nonsense
When top players go with joke openings, it’s crap for 5 moves but then they play to win. They’re odds games.
If the gawking rabble wanna play odds games, let’em.
So timely! Just yesterday I was watching Eric Rosen playing the Stafford while high, drinking, _and_ cheating! Also swearing like a mofo.
Lighten up man it's just a game, it's very funny that ben is like "chess isn't serious anymore, chess should be very serious, yeah i don't take it serious because it's more fun to do silly things, but everyone else should be very very serious"
Haha exactly, children are dying around the world and we're supposed to take a board game seriously 🤣
That game is exactly why I don't play rapid or blitz....I wouldn't even feel good about beating that white player.
if you want some great advice on which stupid openings you should play, go to Gothamchess, you certainly won't be disappointed👍😆 (and he also adds some extras: he almost always suggests the stupidest possible variations even in the openings he's been using for years.. .) a misunderstood genius in short🤣
I love how Gotham is always showing moves that aren't the best or simply losing for the opponent when playing something from his course. Then you analyze it and see how much he manipulates information.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 very true😆👍 I, on the other hand, want to give just a simple example, but which explains many things: according to him, the Caro Kann is his favorite defense, and he knows it very well down to the smallest details (and he is an I.M.) in his videos and courses, in the Advanced Caro-Kann, where the best (and most played) 3rd move by the black player is 3...Bf5, he instead suggests 3...c5, and has stated several times (including on Lex Fridman's podcast), that according to him it is the best variant since "the computer says that black has already equalized"... that is, being pawn down on the fourth move and with white still having the advantage of moving first? But which computers does he use?🤣 but even if it were true, the vast majority of kids he offers it to are 500-1400 elo at most, certainly not Stockfish... do you think they would gain any advantage by playing in a similar way? I don't think so, and as a "teacher" he is actually making good money... America is a Great Nation...🤣👍
@@andreitiberiovicgazdovici Yeah he should just say that 3... c5 is less known and can give your opponent trouble but instead he's just lying.
That was terrible. The game too. Just kidding. It sucks but Magnus is serious most of the time. Hikaru too and all the top guys. Try not to take it so hard Ben.
yes
I believe I played Magnus Carlsen and I know MJ and Elvis Presley are alive and in hiding because I've met both of them simultaneously and they told me everything...
this is a very stupid take. im here for it!
I think my chances of playing against Magnus Carlsen is minus Infinity.
It can be interesting to watch a good player come back from a bad position. Bad players, not interesting.
The truth hurts.
But the question is how do you get away form this nonsense and actually improve your play when the nonsense is so prevalent?
You have a point, but it comes across like the old guy yelling at kids for having fun.
I honestly thought it was going that way, but he never really stated it was bad or he disapproves, he just kinda explains the situation how it is. I think it's obvious it's not how he prefers chess to be, but I don't think his analyses of the situation is all that bad.
Besides, clubplayers who take the game seriously and are passionate about getting better still exist. They still run most of the actual tournaments being played in real life, no matter what your level. It's just where before online chess was just a place club players tried to improve in their free time, it has now just kinda become a world of its own. But the sillyness doesn't erase those serious players. And dabbling in both worlds is honestly pretty fun.
Maybe when you are present to such a degree in that online chess world, it's easy to forget the OTB serious players are still thriving.
Meme Chess, What else?
your whole life was very serious, but how hard was it to make a living? Imagine you were single the whole time, would have made enough to never worry about paying for rent, food, health, entertainment, holidays, etc? I got the impression back in the good old days, it was a tough life being a full time professional chess player.
It's a game, old man.
moves start at 9:41, dear god, 2nd move at 11:56
seems like someone stole the keys of the key keeper
About the only thing I really enjoy about the world today is that people are getting less and less serious about it, about the sh*t that is whirling everywhere. I mean in the old days when people worn shirt with tie and they pretended everything was serious and made sense and everyone had a big family with the idea this was the right way of life and for the betterment of everything , I just don't know how people were able to move forward with that zillion tons of bullshit. In contrast, when somebody like Nakamura who has 50 million $s plays Magnus who could play 2900ish chess and they are just trolling each other for minutes and laughing like Beavis and Butt-Head, that restores my fate in life and humanity.
Apparently Danya didn't play Magnus, some GM made a post on reddit about the whole thing and said he was banned unfairly as he wasn't cheating. Weird stuff.
So I think perhaps you're being a bit too angry old man. At the higher professional level, everyone has 60 moves of theory. The crazy openings drag people out of theory so that you get down to playing chess rather than remembering book moves as soon as possible. And the engines have shown its just how much we stuck at chess, and how far from perfect we play even when playing as well as humanly possible.
That's a good assessment of today's chess scene. It seems that majority of new chess players since the pandemic are more interested in trolling than in learning chess. That's fine I suppose. They can continue trolling while the few continue to improve and gain rating. Eventually, the trolls will get tired of wasting their time and move on to something else while we continue to enjoy this beautiful game.
I welcome troll openings as they are really fresh and fun to play against especially in short time formats. As long as they aren't cheating it's all good in my book.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 . I hear you. My point is that I also play OTB and use online to get better as a chess player. My goal is to get to NM and playing troll openings aren't going to help me. But like I said, trolls can play whatever they want and I will continue improving my chess. Thanks for the reply! Cheers!
Why are you even covering this awful, senseless game?
downvote for "kids these days" attitude. don't go down that road, don't die angry and sad. see the light, there is plenty.