All Are Welcome... In Hell
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Increasingly, we’re seeing movements in the #Church that want to say, come as you are, stay as you are, all are welcome as they are - with no simultaneous message of, if you want God’s promises of eternal life, you’re going to have to change, you’re going to have to respond in some way - first and foremost by repenting.
You’re going to have to recognize your faults and renounce them to begin the process of being healed of them. You have to embrace a process of sanctification. That’s what it means to be a disciple of Jesus.
And to endorse or give your blessing to someone as they are, in the name of inclusivity, is not inclusive and it’s not loving. And so anybody who wants to say that’s the defining feature of a God of Love, is lying to you.
A Church that prioritizes unconditioned inclusivity has more in common with Hell than it does with God’s Kingdom. Because all are welcome as they are in Hell. Hell doesn’t expect you to change or become better as a prerequisite to admission. In fact, it doesn’t want you to change, it wants you to stagnate and miss out on your fullest happiness and purpose in life, which we admitted from the beginning, is not where we are. We can all improve, remember? Hell wants you to skip out on all that and is happy to take you as you are.
Admission into God’s kingdom is conditional. All are invited, but not everyone comes.
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Nothing is as diverse, equitable and inclusive as hell.
Hell is what you can find at the core of a star like the Sun. That is real.
That is why the alphabet soup athiest people say "diversity is our strength".
True, unbaptized infants also go there.
Council of Florence:
The souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone (i.e. unbaptized infants), go down straight away to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains
Perfectly said
@@UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHellwhat you’re stating is incorrect. There are different levels of hell. Hell is the separation from God. Not everyone in hell is treated equally which is spoken about in Scripture. For example when Jesus descended to hell the OT saints were there like Moses and Abraham along with others who led a good life. They were in what is called Abraham’s bosom. If infants are separated from God they would be in a state of natural happiness.
Lastly God can override the commandments because he’s God. The purpose of the Sacraments is the ordinary way of salvation.
So you’re either ignorant or trolling. Considering your name on here I’m going for the latter
While Jesus meets us where we are, He loves us too much to leave us as we are. An ongoing spirit of repentance and conversion is necessary for Eternal Life
If the living knew what the dead knew the whole world would follow Jesus Christ…
That just makes me wonder why Jesus doesn't just clearly show and tell all humanity what it needs to know about Heaven, Purgatory, Hell, sin, holiness and God's Will rather than letting 99.99% of us wallow in cluelessness. But that would actually make sense, so of course He won't do it.
Luke 16:27-31
[27] And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house- [28] for I have five brothers-so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ [29] But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ [30] And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ [31] He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”
there are people who sadly would still choose separation from God
@@fishofgold6553 Jesus (in John 3:12): I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
NDE...near death experiences mostly reveal a mirror image of your living belief...Christians see Christians...Buddhists see Buddhists...Muslims see Islam. In general this is the norm...interesting.
God loves us as we are.
But, He loves us too much to leave us that way.
Thank God!
Deus Vult
He doesn’t love us as we are. We are basically sin itself after the Fall.
@@UnbaptizedInfantsGoToHellI think that was his point if you read the whole quote. He still loves us before we are born again…
He still loves US through our sin… not our sinful ways themselves but who He knows we are meant to be according to His perfect will. ❤
@@emilymarie5413 I mean, He loves the Elect before they are born again, but He doesn’t love the non-Elect (not in the same way at least)
You sound like you have read and admire Calvinism.
@@Chamindo7 I have read a lot of Augustine..
That's an excellent point, God loves us the way we are, but He doesn't want us to stay the way we are. If religious leaders are saying, "You should just do whatever you want and sin as much as possible" there's something wrong there.
“Abstain from all appearance of evil” 1 Thessalonians 5:22
St Paul pray for us.
People think affirming trans and LGBT practice is “nice” it’s actually affirming their soul will be eternally damned. That’s not nice.
The same thing for Adulterers, Fornicators, Divorced People, Gamblers, Alcoholics, Abortionists.
@@user-kf8wb2cq4fEwww, divorced people. 😅
The mistake they make is the same mistake you're making. They think that niceness is a virtue. What niceness really is is cowardice masquerading as virtue. Jesus was NOT nice, people forget that Jesus was a firebrand force to reckon with. People remember the Jesus of the inane stories we tell to children in religious cartoons and forget the Jesus of the Bible that drove away the moneylenders from the temple using a whip. Niceness is the very essence of choosing the easy way out, avoiding uncomfortable subjects and potential conflict and allowing problems to fester, Niceness is the most surefire way to end up in a very literal hell of your own making, both in life and in eternity. It's incredibly soul crushing to realize how many self proclaimed Christians worship this modern care-bear rainbow-land God; God is not a Teddy-Bear, God is fearsome, and if you're not mortally AFRAID of God, you do NOT truly believe in Him. To know God is to be afraid of God. The best remedy for this is to revisit the Old Testament and give it some serious thought.
@@user-kf8wb2cq4f ALL sin.
@@khatack Jesus brought the sword. Meaning he divided many. He said himself if you don’t love him more than you love your own parents you will not have him.
Everyone can go to Hell, we have to make an effort to get to Heaven.
Calvanists enter the chat 😂
pretty critical design flaw on god's part that one is easier than the other especially when he allegedly prefers who choose the harder one.
I think this is less of a flaw in God and more of a flaw in us. If we are wiling to put our trust in Him, it’s not that hard to go to Heaven. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. The fact that people choose to avoid Him is more on them than anything. If God just wanted everyone in Heaven, then He wouldn’t give us any free will at all. We are given a meaningful choice. When we choose wrongly, we really only have ourselves to blame. God Himself is not harmed by this choice either. Only the damned are.
I once posted a comment on one of your videos saying that you are one of the clearest voices of reason from the West in our times and someone replied that he pitied my country which is in Africa.
I remain as persuaded now as I was then. Here you are teaching truths that the Pope appears not to grasp. Truths that are integral to the Catholic faith!.... I'm grateful you made this video.
Keep up the good work and may our Lord and our Lady be with you and your family always.
Many of us in the West are grateful to Africa and its wonderful bishops.
May the next Pope be a holy man from Africa!
Recovering overachiever here. Workaholism can be another form of sloth so sometimes it’s good advice to rest and prioritize health and relationships with others and God above self improvement. That being said, I agree we can’t stay stagnant and tolerate sin. But sometimes self improvement and spiritual improvement don’t look the same.
Brian thank you for this video, my brother took his own life and we found him Christmas Day just gone. The next day my only son who I've just found out is an addict, die in my arms but I called out to God not to take him and thanks be to God and His Holy Blessed Mother we got his heart beating again before the ambulance arrived. Me and my deceased brother were not in contact with my parents, they were very abusive to us as children and as adults. I had to speak to them for the sake of my brothers wake and funeral. I've been wondering why God hit me so hard in two short days and I was thinking that it's to bring me closer to Him and bring Him to my parents before they leave this world. I totally understand that souls are saved through suffering and this is the suffering that will save my soul and my sons soul and please God my parents as well 🙏 I really needed to hear this message today. Thank you for listening to Christ and letting God love people through you and your channel.
God bless you and everyone here. I beg you and everyone here to keep me and my son in your prayers, God can break addiction in the blink of an eye 🥰
I am so sorry for your loss and pain. At the same time in awe that you are seeing what God is doing. Blessings on you. I will pray for you and your son.
@@tolkienlewis6887 thank you so much for your kind words and prayers they are really appreciated. I'm in awe too that God has helped me see His Blessed Beautiful Hand in my life at the minute. Trusting Him is harder than the suffering and I have been praying the last year for the Grace to Trust Him above all else. The Lord is Faithful and Will Give us what we ask, if it's for the good of our souls. I'm going through the fast track lesson for Trusting Him and I know that He Will Carry me through 🙏 I will also keep you in my prayers. God bless you and your family.
@@suzannelangdon your words and faith strengthen my faith. What you write is so true and we all struggle to trust. We will pray for one another and j greatly appreciate your promise to pray for my family. Have a blessed Sunday 🙌
@@tolkienlewis6887 isn't that what faith is all about, our Communion with each other. The Lord's Prayer starts with "Our Father" not "my Father". Your words of kindness and encouragement are nourishment. You and yours are now in my prayers before bed 🙏 please God we'll meet in heaven, I'll be eternally grateful for your prayers. God bless you and your whole family my friend 🙏
@@suzannelangdon and you and your son. I hope a reconciliation with your parents will be possible 🙏
Respectfully, becoming a better (more moral) person is not a prerequisite to discovering the Church. It is a co-requisite. There's a significant difference.
That depends on what you mean by "discovering the Church."
Because an immoral person is not going to see the Church through the same ethical or moral framework as a moral person would.
So becoming a more moral person definitely seems to be a prerequisite for discovering the Church as it actually is vs. that distorted image of the Church that is held by an immoral person.
Better yet, the result
you cant be a moral person without Christ. The Church is the body of Christ.@@richvestal767
A better way to see it I think is that becoming a better person is not a prerequisite of faith but the result of it.
Churches are mortal institutions and a such they're highly corruptible. Churches are not God's representatives for us, they're OUR representatives for God, their state revealing the state of our collective faith.
Very well said, brother. They're harsh words, but its needed, and you delivered the harsh words in a kind and gentle way.
You can conform to the church or conform to the world. When the church begins to conform to the world, we're in deep trouble.
If you conform to the church instead of conforming to God, you're just as lost as those who conform to the world. Worship God, not the institution created by man, run by man and ruined by man. The Church does NOT represent the power of God on earth for man, the Church represents the dedication of man to the God in heaven, and if man's dedication to God is false, so will be the Church he builds for God.
@@khatackthat’s where you’re wrong haystack….. aligning with the is aligning of God……you cannot be sure the God you are aligned with is the real God without some guidance….. to think otherwise is not rational but is arrogant.
BTW, the Church was created by Christ, so is a DIVINE institution.
@@khatack - there should be no difference between conforming to God or to the church, as the church ought to reflect his will. That they are increasingly becoming two different things is exactly the problem.
@@khatackthere is nothing in this world which God does not ultimately control.
But it will never.
Listening to this I suddenly realized the contradiction of the "Jesus did it all so you don't have to do anything except rest in that fact." It's essentially the same as saying "Don't pick up your cross because Jesus picked up everybody's cross when he carried his." Which of course isn't remotely what happened or what he said.
I saw the video title and thunbnail and immediately thought "Oh good, a video I can send my mom"
Wasnt expecting to get called out the first 10 seconds of the video. Thank you. You truly care and I need to make some changes.
I might for the first time have understood the part in the Bible where the man not wearing a wedding garment is evicted from the wedding feast.
The fact is that a blessing has an objective reality of its own and thus cannot be redefined at will to fit a subjective intention that is contrary to the nature of a blessing.
When we bless a couple we are blessing a relationship. When that couple is engaged in a public sinful relationship and has no intention of repentance, we are blessing sin.
“God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. Sexual intercourse outside of marriage, cannot bring people closer to God and therefore cannot open itself to God's blessing.
Therefore, if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what He cannot bless. This “pastoral” blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing” -Cardinal Muller
God will not be mocked.
The Church has MORE THAN ONE type of blessing. There are different forms of blessings. You only focus on sacramental blessings for “approvals sake”.
Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?
The Priest can recite a simple prayer like this over two gay people:
“Lord, look at these children of yours, grant them health, work, peace and mutual help. *Free them from everything that contradicts your Gospel and allow them to live according to your will.* Amen”.
Then it concludes with the sign of the cross on each of the two persons. This is all *done in private.*
We are talking about something that lasts about 10 or 15 seconds.
Can you tell me what is wrong with this practice?
@@harleymann2086Amen!!!
St.John of the Cross said at the end of life we will be judged on LOVE, not by other people’ s opinions and judgments. +
“All are welcome” and “come as you are” are both important elements of the Church’s pastoral mission. God wishes that all will repent and be saved, and they usually do not repent if they don’t think they are welcome in the hospital for sinners. But of course, while sick people are welcome, sickness is not welcome in a hospital. You don’t go to a hospital if you have no intention of getting better. How do we help them want to get better? We must show them what it’s like to be healthy, that’s evangelism.
I'll accept that the slogans aren't outright wrong or even evil, and I'm not even saying that they need to be paired with anything else (although maybe they should), but the parish or group that says these things need to conduct themselves in a manner that actively, openly, and explicitly demonstrates the power of repentance and accountability to life ordered in Christ. They can't just be social groups, which is exactly why slogans like "all are welcome" and "come as you are" become corrupted and has largely not convinced sinners to seek the Church for God's mercy, not even realizing the purpose of His grace that He still offers despite their choices. Yes, all are welcome to come as they are. That's how anyone starts, and the Church does give them a place to go, but sometimes her children have a bad habit of convincing others that it may not be worth the sacrifice.
Don't get me wrong, I understand why we sometimes do that, and it's not simply because we are just trying to be nice, but we understand the reality that for some people, their journey involves a sacrifice and a life change that we were blessed to never have to endure, and that is a difficult thing to demand of someone who is so spiritually impoverished.
Faith in Christ is accessible to everyone. Repentance is the only thing we need. It's not like we have to reach an unreachable level. the Church in the mercy of Christ has the bar only 6 inches off the ground. It's not a huge jump, but only a simple step.
How do we repent if we do not understand that we're sinners? How do we understand that we're sinners if we do not understand that what we do and what we desire is sinful? Repentance is not the only thing we need, we need a whole lot of other things before we can even get that far. IF you are to do God's work here on earth and save souls of fellow men, you need to first have the humility to understand that sin is not so easily overcome, faith is not so easily discovered and prideful arrogance not so easily dismantled. Most Christians fail in their basic duty to God precisely because in their arrogance they're blind to their own sin and blind to the struggles of others. They're like the Pharisee who thanked God in their prayers that they're not like the sinful publican, thinking they were so much better, rather than being like the sinful publican who sought forgiveness. Do NOT discount the monumental struggle against sin, nor how difficult it is for a sinner to reach that bar even if it is only 6 inches off the ground. If you're honest to yourself you will find times you cannot even reach that bar yourself; saying that you repent and truly repenting in your heart are two VERY different things.
@@khatack you are right repentance isn't the only thing you need but it is the first. The first step is the acknowledgement that there is sin in our life and that are willing to turn to God for forgiveness. That is the "6 inches" off the ground that we can recognize our sin and acknowledge it before God, confess, and begin the process of the healing from sin. It's about personal response to God.
You are correct to say that there is a monumental struggle against sin. It is, in fact, impossible to overcome your sin which is why God became man to overcome your sins for you. This is why the Catholic faith is a religion of Grace. Grace is the life of God that Christ gives you through His forgiveness and comes to you to give you new life. You aren't meant to overcome your sin by your own power but by his love.
Faith and repentance are not accessible to everyone.
correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth ~ 2 Timothy 2:25
He “may perhaps”. Not: “Hey, I am definitely open to give it to everybody”. Also, Philippians 2:13 says that it is God who works in us to will and to act. So it depends upon Gods willingness, in order for us to even will. That’s why we pray for somebody’s salvation, like Paul in Romans 10:1. Praying for somebody’s salvation doesn’t make sense if people have to autonomously respond to or cooperate with God, since how can God save them then? God would have no control over it
I recommend all of Augustines anti-Pelagian work, but most specifically his two works against Julian of Eclanum.
This is the best video tittle I've seen. Your content is great.
I send you my blessings from Venezuela
A simple way to think about it that all are welcome in a gym, and you are free to come as you are, but even a gym has rules about what you come there for (especially if you're trying to cause trouble to prove some point), and a good gym will also prevent you from using equipment in a way that is highly unsafe, but ultimately, it is understood that everyone is there to exercise, strengthen, and maintain themselves. Anything that disrupts that purpose is likely going to get you kicked out, and no one, except those doing the disrupting, finds that unreasonable or unfair.
I love this video. As an educator, I always question myself if I should be gently pushing my students to reach greater heights. Now I know what I am doing is right and I don't have to wrestle with my conscience on this anymore.
I ALWAYS am aware I can and should be a better person. Holiness is a hike uphill, not a walk in the park.
To love truly requires the courage to rebuke and to punish.
You’re a very good communicator. I love the way you articulate and present your thoughts.
The fact that this pisses me off proves that I needed to hear it. Thanks.
Thank you for providing the music you use in the description I have always loved the sound
Fiducia supplicans is not denying that the change is necessary. It shines a light on scenarios where an individual or a pair of people asks spiritional strength to change from God. This supernatural help would be poured by God in a form pastoral blessing.
No, it specifically says blessing as a couple. We don't all want to see priests blessing sinful couplings.
@@sliglusamelius8578 couple = pair of people
@@Justeelisjust
Keep gaslighting. It's clear to all that if I approach a priest with my wife and ask for his "blessing", that we are asking for a blessing for our relationship. If I wanted a personal blessing, I would not approach with my wife. Also, he would not bless us simultaneously if it were individual.
@@sliglusamelius8578 blessing doesn't always mean approval! And the document is also clear about this. What do you benefit from willingly interpreting the document's message as a total opposite?
@@Justeelisjust
It's convenient that I am a native English speaker and understand the plain meaning of their texts as written:
III. Blessings of Couples in Irregular Situations and of Couples of the Same Sex
31. "Within the horizon outlined here appears the possibility of blessings for couples in irregular situations and for couples of the same sex, the form of which should not be fixed ritually by ecclesial authorities to avoid producing confusion with the blessing proper to the Sacrament of Marriage."
Section 4 of the clarification statement:
"The real novelty of this Declaration, the one that requires a generous effort of reception and from which no one should declare themselves excluded, is not the possibility of blessing couples in irregular situations. It is the invitation to distinguish between two different forms of blessings: “liturgical or ritualized” and “spontaneous or pastoral”.
So they are merely saying that there cannot be a liturgy attached to the blessing of the COUPLE. The COUPLE is being blessed as a COUPLE. But no LITURGY is attached to the blessing of the COUPLE.
We are not stupid. James Martin SJ proves by his actions that they are lying.
Well said, thank you!
Thank you, Brian, I, for one, definitely got your message. GOD bless you!
Thank you for making this video, god bless you Brian!
I'm that student watching this video 😂😂
I thought the same thing today when I saw a downtown store with its door smashed in and boarded up with a sticker saying "all are welcome" with a rain ow background.
This is what I needed to hear today. I need to get better with this.
Well said, Brian. And that's part of the beauty of blessings, to help those in need find sanctity in their lives and overcome their sinful ways. Blessing a sinner doesn't mean one is blessing or pampering their sin, but having faith they'll find the necessary strength to change their lives for good and be saved.
A great lesson.
Keep going to Mass, pray for our Church and remember this is all a distraction from the financial corruption going on in The Vatican
Only a Calvinist devil could think them selves to be more clever then the Vatican
That’s a complete stretch, I don’t know how you even connect the 2 lol
@@Metanoia000there are no coincidences. They simply don't exist.
That said, just because everything is connected doesn't mean it's connected in a particular way. So it could just as easily be that difficult sorts of corruption have a common cause, rather than one inspiring the other
Today is the first Saturday of the month. Do the first Saturday devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, requested by Her Majesty at Fatima.
Thank you! Great talk to inspire the occasionally necessary course corrections in our lives.
Wonderfully presented. The current word from Rome is for me lazy theology. I belueve Bonhoeffer called it "cheap grace".
Excellent reflection! We all have the potential of being better or being bad, our choice!
I love how you put in words what I’m feeling. A problem is that many people don’t think that the declaration is saying what some of us see; many people have told me that the document did not say you can bless illicit couples. It clearly does, although it says not in official ceremony, and do it in private. And then the debate continues and still does and everybody is confused.
We pray in the Rosary, as our Holy Virgin asked: "lead all souls to Heaven". Which doesn't mean that no one goes to hell. And many, many souls will be saved, but a long and painful purgatory awaits for them.
Mr. Holdsworth, would you consider making a video on "the fewness of the saved"? I think you could articulate that very well as this is something that must be brought to the light more.
Well said. Thank you.
Fantastic topic you covered today. 🙏
Very good talk
Enlightening. Good message.
Come as you are, but definitely don’t stay and end up as you are.
I agree with the start of the video but disagree that playing video games is a waste. It stimulates the brain more than watching a movie, challenges our puzzle solving, creates hand eye coordination, and multiplayer games can create lasting friendships and bring together existing ones easier than making in person plans
True, but we need to do things in moderation. It’s just an easy example.
Excellent video
Hell is an all inclusive, very diverse place with everyone welcome without any need for change! Like the Synodal church in Germany ....
I’ve always used that term is a different manner. Indeed, I’ve often said the Lord is a “come as you are” God. But I’m so saying, I mean that it is the invitation to come to worship. Come to the house of God, open your heart to Jesus, listen to what He has to say.
The Lord doesn’t care what you look like, how much you weight, or what clothes you’re wearing. That doesn’t mean there isn’t work involved. The Lord will ask things if you, but the invitation goes out to all, and all are welcome to come as they are.
Read : The little number of those who are saved by St. Leonard of Port Maurice. Adjust your life accordingly ✌🏼
"Unless you do X, you will not inherit the Kindom..." is a warning that everyone falls short every day, and that we need the righteousness of Christ imputed to us. Changes in our behaviour result from accepting that amazing gift. The change in us is born of divine love bestowed on us subsequently requited.
My issue is that I'm taking Logos Spermatikos too far and enjoying Pagan aesthetics that I like like the music and good ideas of spirituality that aren't contradictory to the Logos and because I take my skepticism too far and I rarely agree with Christians anymore yet Christ and His teachings are still the most Holy and perfect thing we have and He is the only true eternal imperfect Divine masculine to worship it would seem and atheists also seem to go too far with dogmatic skepticism while pagans go too far with nature and death worship rather than veneration and respect those are my only issues and I don't know what Heaven and Hell means based on reading the Bible and hearing Christian's talking about it all day because we're all agnostic towards death and sin seems so subjective
It’s always good to listen to religious people talk about an argument for their religion. It helps me to remember that it’s not true. What a loving God sending people to burn for all eternity just because there is not sufficient proof to prove that the God of the Bible is real. The same standard exist in Islam and yet Christians don’t convert to Islam.
Thanks. Wise men from the East were prepared to change direction, as shown by their perseverance to find the new born King and their taking a new way home. Herod's wise men, the religious leaders of the day, were not so prepared -- even to go ten km south.
Very well spoken
SOUNDS LIKE OUR WORLD RIGHT NOW IN SPADES!!
St Paul makes it clear that we are to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. He describes it as a race that needs to be finished. Jesus Himself says that we are to conform to the efaith, not the other way round.
can you do some content on the fewness of the saved?
Here is a theme song for what appears to be the general moral outlook of at least some of the clergy:
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Let them brush your rock and roll hair
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Let the stories be told
Let them say what they want
Let the photos be old
Let them show what they want
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Let them brush your rock and roll hair
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Won't you let the (good times roll)
If the illusion is real
Let them give you a ride
If they got thunder appeal
Let them be on your side
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Yes if you are physically fit you can unretire over the age of 65.
The oldest truck driver, regional driving unretired at 67 and drove till the age of 92..
Everything you said in the first half of the video was true. But the implication made that the magisterial document on blessings is asking for people to come as they are without repentance is bearing false witness. The blessing itself, as the document says, is intended to assist those who desire to fix their lives. Those who are trying or wish to try and simply ask for extra graces should not be turned down.
Yes sir. You are correct.
You are bearing false witness. Section III of Fiducia Supplicans says "blessing of couples". And the newly released document doubles down on that. And James Martin SJ gleefully does just that all over social media, proving that this is a blessing of same sex couples as couples.
Gaslighting is the same as lying.
I totally agree. Modern traditionalists are becoming very similar to reformers. They do not recognize the role of Holy Spirit in nowadays Church and want to do things how they want.
You are bearing false witness. The document calls for blessings of couples as couples.
@@TheXone7
Modern leftists want to remake the Church in their own image.
So, in heaven, all are invited...but entrance is conditional.
Yes?
There's nothing wrong with the phrase, it's just incomplete. It should be "come as you are, leave a better person."
Missed Mass today. First time in 20 years. Not sure if I will ever go back. If Sodomy is no longer a mortal sin how can missing Mass possibly be a Mortal Sin.
In all seriousness, why did you bother to go to Mass for the past 20 years? If you don't believe you meet your Lord and Savior at the altar, why did you ever go?
@@kimfleury Because I believed everything the Church taught. Now that the Sin that cries out for vengeance for has been given the 👍 thumbs up how can anyone possibly believe anything the Church has taught? How can something be true for 2,000 years and then not up to 3 weeks ago?
The church has never taught that. Sodomy is still one of the four sins that cry out to heaven. New Revelation died with St. Paul, come back to mass my friend, find a reverent parish that emphasizes truth.
Truly inspirational- God bless.
Tagline creds, @ Gabe Finochio?
Great podcast
Great video, thank you.
Dumb question: Where do you get your waistcoats? I want one.
Go to a tailor and have him make one for you. They’re notoriously hard to fit otherwise.
BRILLIANT!!!!!
Come as you are, leave with a penchant to be better
Aside from "penchant" being a rather… fancy word in comparison to "come as you are," I like this line a lot.
Best title!!!
The Roman Catholic church does not believe its call to inclusivity and it's welcome to bless and walk with the people, most especially those in need of grace, will lead "all" souls to Christ. Indeed that is an individual's right to choose. But by walking with our brothers and sisters, whoever they may be, however sinful they may be, like you and me, the church will have dialogue with all people in the hope of conversion.
It should be honest dialogue. Not deceitful.
Church welcomes all, yes...come as you are, but does not mean hell as some trads present. There is a BIG part of work done by Holy Spirit after they come. Don't forget about this part, because then you are not far from sedevacantists.
I've been dying to know what your intro song is
Anyone have a link for that lantern Brian's got displayed in the background? TIA
I know my Catholic Faith extremely well, that's all I need.
Giving someone a blessing is not the same as saying they are perfect. The whole point of a blessing is that it is help from God. Without God's grace, nobody is going to Heaven.
You said "giving someone" a blessing, singular. But we already knew that, and now we are being told that couples should be blessed as couples, even if they are in a sinful coupling relationship. That's new, and we don't all wanna go along with that.
If I presented to a priest with my pet donkey, and told the priest that my donkey and I are a couple, can we have your blessing.....what would he say? "But we just want God's grace in our relationship!"
We know what Bergoglio and Fernandez are doing. It's a blessing of a sinful coupling.
People have this really hippy image of Jesus as someone who just accepts literally 100% of everything, and people who go to those churches have no reason to go to church if it's just going to say what all the corporations and governments are saying anyway, instead of what the Bible says and the churches historically taught. It's nice to hear someone say almost the exact opposite, that accepting everything is a direct path straight to Hell.
In contrast, it's really hard in the modern day to think of Jesus as something, say, a warrior could invoke to inspire him to do better in battle, when although He is a symbol of mxrtxrdxm, he is also a symbol of an explicitly pacifist form of mxrtxrdxm. So Christianity is good for elxmxnating fear of dxxth, but not really for any of the offensive aspects of cxmbxt. And the "swxrd vxrse" is generally interpreted metaphorically, of course.
But a stronger image of Jesus that does comport with scripture, etc. is that of a judge. To me, that's the only way I can inject any masculinity back into the religion in any way that seems viable for a young guy in the current year to live by.
But then again, Jesus never commanded any humans to K or fxght anyone, and no one can claim to speak on behalf of God (right at the beginning of the ten commandments), so there still is no real Christian justification for wxr or K-ing that would make a modern Christian not doubt every single thing they do which they actually need to do in order to win.
Especially now that the entire apologetics-industrial apparatus has been completely transformed in the modern age into almost 1000% a tool of convincing non-Christians that Christians aren't evxl or mean, and as a result of that, they haven't convinced anyone and the enxmies just double down, while worst of all the entire body of Christians themselves have been indirectly brainwashed by secular fxrces in the world via the secular-facing apologetics community into genuinely believing this watered down, biologically unviable (anti-viable even) version of their own religion that barely resembles what their ancestors believed and practiced and used to inspire them to survive and thrive.
Instead it turns Christians into collectively s-cidal pacifists (even dragging down non-Christian co-nationals down with them) who define themselves purely as people who accept literally everything in the name of tolerance and pacifism, want to be replaced by foreign hxstile invxders who just have to say they're Christian to be preferred over much more patriotic co-nationals who are less (or not) Christian, and then be used by the state to prop up Mxrxism and post-humanism, or even worse when Christians embrace being replaced by people from a completely different hxstile foreign religion, and focus 10,000% of their political capital on fxghting against abxrtion and gxnder stuff and nothing else (which causes them to embrace being invxded by hxstxle foreigners even more, when the invxders happen to agree on abxrtxxn and gxnder stuff).
If one religion says to convert the entire world by the swxrd BAMN, and then the other says to turn the other cheek 77 times and then wait 4 whole centuries to wage any kind of reactionxry counter-crxsxde, then it's obvious which will win in the long run. Especially if you look at the chronological order the religions appeared in, and that the later one specifically appears almost as if intentionally designed to counter and defeat the earlier one.
If Christians are losing at literally everything by constantly appeasing cxmmies, anxrchxsts, and Mxslxms while alienating other parts of the political spectrum who support their religion but reject it out of disenchantment when all the Christians spend all their time appeasing the very people committing civilizational ethnxcide against them while ignoring the victims of the g-cide in such a way that accxlxrates it, then they're probably discerning the will of God a bit wrong, is what I'm mainly saying.
Europeans evolved under 1 to 2 millennia of ancient and medieval selection pressure which can no longer be replicated in the modern world, and evolved as such while under Christian law and within a Christian worldview, so to completely discard the entire European gxnx pool as something useless, frivolous, even evxl, is to discard the long-term evolutionary effects of the entire Christian religion in and of itself, and do so in a permanent way that will never be reversed, and that in and of itself will be the long-term downfall of Christianity: its inability to defend even the physical existence of the initial people who converted to it and spread it around the world in the first place. (I thought the whole point of Jesus sacrificing Himself was so we don't have to, let alone have an entire arbitrarily-defined chunk of the human gxnx pool commit g-cide against themselves out of some kind of Jesus complex, as if their entire gxnxtic group is some kind of second Jesus that needs to be sacrificed for the rest of humanity; very weird.)
The fact that all Christians would just buy into this and embrace it and help accxlxrate it is ridiculous, just because a bunch of cxmmies and people of hxstile fxreign religions who are g-cidal against them got control of all the West's corporations and governments and convinced them that their entire gxnx pool is inherently hxteful and must be phased out of existence to replace them with people who openly have declared g-cidal intent against them, and are the polar opposite and furthest from the cultural values that Christianity has evolved Europeans into instinctively promoting and living out.
Hopefully though we can find some way to reframe this image of Jesus as a judge into something that is more faithful to the way that the original Christians in ancient and medieval Europe practiced and believed, such that the religion actually helped their nxtxxns survive and thrive, rather than accxlxrating any kind of collective s-cide as the religion is mainly used for by enxmies of the West today.
I don't remember ancient or medieval Christians ever deciding to collectively at all levels of society replace everyone on their entire continent with hxstile foreigners of any type purely out of self-hxtred, so I have no idea why that's the "conservative" form of Christianity that's still mainstream today.
This is A great post. Very insightful. Thank you!
@@Ransetsu Thank you! Did you like any certain point in particular?
If you think about it, in the Old Testament, who is the focus on the entire time (aside from God obviously, and all the thematic connections to Jesus, etc.)? If you had to pick one single name, you would probably pick the nation of Isrxxl, because that's the entire narrative and collective of individuals summed up with just one name.
Christianity has individualist elements, but people forget that it is fundamentally a collectivist religion on all sorts of levels. People's fear of the concept of the new nation of Isrxxl causes them to take on all these collectively self-destructive ideolxgxcal ideas from the secular world dxstroying itself around us and implement those same beliefs in the church, warping it into the weird anti-reality inversions of itself it is today.
Although acknowledging that the Biblical nation of Isrxxl and the current nation-state with the same name are two separate things (with some minor degree of spiritual overlap from a Christian perspective, and a massive, overwhelming overlap from a physical and biological perspective [Theology of the Body, right?]), despite that, it's still fair to say that the modern nation-state of Isrxxl is by far overwhelmingly the one single real nation-state on Earth that anyone would expect to embody the spirit and legacy of the Old Testament more closely (or at the very least even be attempting to embody) than any other nation-state on the planet, for many obvious reasons I won't bother to list.
And yet, the second that some Cxthxlics become cxsxxlties in the Strip, the most authoritative human Christian on the planet IMMEDIATELY jumps to blaming Isrxxl without even suspecting the enxmy staged some kind of obvious prxpxgxnda op like they always do constantly.
Both sides are accusing each other of g-cide, and the top Christian instantly, instinctively, and impulsively with no reflection or suspicion or contemplation unequivocally blames the J's who currently identify as being targeted for g-cide (more credibly than the T activists liberal Christians prefer so much), and doesn't even so much as suspect the M's for a second. It's like the thought never even crossed his mind. Very interesting. Almost like he's under some kind of dxmxnic spell or something. Technology-induced, perhaps. The internet. The liberals and lxftxsts who control it.
So his instinctive reflex is to be a trxxtxr against the surviving physical/biological nation of Isrxxl (imagine if Jesus had descendants or relatives still alive and Christians supported what leads to them D-ing), and to support those committed to elxmxnating them to fulfill their sxck, twxsted religious prophecy.
Does the Pope think the Ms are going to stop there?
Is he not aware that Christendom is analogous to the new Isrxxl?
Does he think the Ms aren't going to try and erxdxcxte anyone analogous to Isrxxl in spirit after they solve the biological component that all these misguided fundamentalists (who are all more true and accurate than each other despite disagreeing on everything; fundamental indeed) give zero crxps about.
Obviously the physically surviving biological descendants of the OT should be kept alive if your religion cares about . Pretty weird they would flip over some random groups in Afrxca no one's ever heard of, but take the opposite side in this cxnflict of all cxnflicts, against this one group of all groups.
Think about it. If the West pushes back and the Js win and the Ms lose, what is the risk of Ms suddenly no longer existing? Close to zero.
But if the West only pressures the Js and helps the Ms win, giving the anti-Western lxft everything they want, then what is the risk all Js in the Holy Land will no longer exist? Close to 100% if it ever gets to the point where the defense forces cxllapse and everyone invxdxs them. The risk of the opposite happening in the opposite direction is zero.
So the Pope and USCCB are siding with the army of wolves outside the fence over the lamb inside the fence.
I think the confusion here is around the concept of sxcrxficing yourself to save your enemy persecuting you, vs. their apparent interpretation of sxcrxficing the Js on their behalf for them without consulting them first, and then also sxcrxficing the whole of Christendom and Western civilization (the latter part concerns me the most, personally), in order to save the Ms persecuting everyone (even the Hindus and Buddhists and atheists and pagans).
Seems like a weird thing to do, sort of dxmonic almost.
Especially considering that Jesus as a poor carpenter with just a few armxd followers was in the mxlxtarily weaker position vis-a-vis the local authorities, needless to say Rome at large, whereas the West and Christendom are in the superior position where we could stop a lot of the injustices happening if we really wanted to, or at the very least not import all the chaos and problems from the worst parts of the world and dxstrxy ourselves so we never have any chance of trying to uphold justice anywhere ever again.
It's like the USCCB who work with mxss mxgrxtxxn NGOs to funnel as many people from M countries and Afrxca as possible are literally just welcoming the opening the gates to hxll to let it engulf the planet, rather than taking what little bit of heaven we have left and rebuilding it to spread it to the rest of the world.
Should they just excommunicate themselves, or what?
Their interpretation of the overall geopxlxtxcs of the Bible is almost as if they imagine the Js were in charge of Egypt and the majority population, and then let mxgrants in until they become an enslxvxd minority, and that's where the story begins, and the first half was a good thing that they just gave up everything voluntarily and got enslxvxd for no reason.
Except in real life the West doesn't make it when we get to that point (probably century after the Js are gone pretty soon if the lxft keeps winning elxctions), and once we go down, the rest of the species goes down in rapid sequence after us. They won't survive the power vacuum and cxnflxcts between them with the tech that'll be out there by then.
But that's exactly what they're having the West do right now. I can't think of any actual parallels in the Bible to what they're doing to us (including non-Christian Westerners who oppose this, just everyone in general), but I'm not an expert. Either way, it seems like they're doing whatever the villain in the story would be doing.
I guess that's one way to interpret realpolitik in either the Bible or modern reality. No wonder America was founded on separation of church and state, if the church is having people who have zero understanding of political science, or even any kind of biology for that matter (young Earthers still holding out), interpreting the Old Testament and influencing religious pxlxticians with what they teach.
Anyway, long live Isrxxl, or whatever, I guess. Either one, I guess.
And, in hell, everyone “loves” you just as you are; no need to repent and change your ways…
Assuming hell mentioned in the Bible is a state of mind and that it doesn't necessarily have to be a literal Dante's Inferno to make other people fear you for not interpreting the Bible the same way you do does it?
Family members want acceptance of alcohol abuse, drug use, divorce etc. This is the default position of all sin: make Vice into Virtue and quell the cognitive dissonance.
Hell is nature where stories relative to individuals compete for survival..
And then civilization is a shared story where nothing is with out assigned place
"What do you want be when you grow up?"
This is a clear sign you have ended up in hell
Planned Parenthood is an intelligent design program that shuts the doorway into this realm
"All good things come through sacrifice" is so easily abused without some limiting principle to identify that not all sacrifice is good. It's not a given that a parent stressing healthy eating and exercise has a child's best interests in mind. Over-emphasis of these "good" sacrifices has quite often lead to body image issues, anorexia, and worse. Over-emphasis on the "goods" of prayer, confession, sacraments can manifest in sometimes debilitating religious OCD. The link between rejection by families and communities and increased rates of depression and suicide in LGBTQ folks is well-established. Far from there being some obvious line where this messaging results only in healthy introspection and positive changes, high control religion makes it possible, nigh easy, to justify inflicting even severe temporal harm, too-often including child abuse, under the premise that it's justified by an eternal good to be realized later.
I think that the primary issue driving polarising discourse is the set of unspoken assumptions which bifurcates the universe of discourse. When my experience drives me to speak out against this oversight, distortion, and abuse, and your experience is of an opposite oversight, distortion, and abuse, then my cry rings in your ears as just another voice contributing to and in fact furthering the distortion and abuse.
The hot button topic in the Church today concerns itself with fundamental questions of human identity and sexuality. Everyone recognises that it's an important topic, and that the Church has to get it right. What is right is that which will bring people back to a correct understanding and response.
The problem is that the issue, naturally polarising, is already polarised, and many people neither know nor care that there are important things that must be done to bring people back to a correct understanding and response who are already moving away from the center on the opposite side from the forces the listeners themselves encounter. Not for the listener, but for such, the correct form of ministry is to push a message which would be harmful and damaging to the listener. Recognising the threat of harm to themselves and others like them, the listeners object to the threat that the message represents, which further justifies the ministry to a different audience.
The solution is an act of faith that God arranges all things well, with perhaps the further consideration that you might be the support that God provides for those who need the support that you are able to bring.
Is this asking us to think more of agape, rather than the other three loves?
The divorced and remarried, the polygamous(african problem that's becoming rear now among Christian converts) The not married and sexually active. Engaged but living together and the homosexuals are all irregular unions. All mortal sin along with private mortal sins of the congregation that should be confessed as they reconcile with God. The church has always blessed these categories of persons. Priests do not refuse to bless usually, now they have the conditions for how they can bless the above categories without scandal is we done in Germany and by fr Martin and others like him.
Very well said ‘ Bergoglio and his papacy would serve themselves Well to take a cue from this ‘they want you to take the wide open path to HELL
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Hey Lay People, Catholic Evangelization meets people where they are at, builds relationships, and then shares the truth in love (Jesus) and gradually teaches the Tradition, Catechism and Vatican Documents. Jesus brings Salvation (Healing). Brian, you are a good man and I care about you but make sure you are solid and listening to your Archbishop and following the path of the Saints. I highly recommend Companion of the Cross Faith Formation training for you in these challenging times. It will take work, but it's needed to be more effective and proper. Reach out if you have questions; united in the Holy Spirit. Praying for you and may our Blessed Mother intercede for you and your family always.
If there's something lacking in my formation, it would be more helpful to identify it, don't you think? If I've said something that is wrong, then it should be possible to offer that clarification. Vaguely asserting that I'm not formed properly is not a helpful correction.
Well said. Thank you Brian. God bless you.
Finally, I see you are in agreement with the Pope and the Magisterium. We accept those in sin in order to pastor them and encourage them into repentance and a closer union with the teachings of the Church and of Christ.
Im so glad FS was released , to explain what you just said, to the Priest and Bishops who would encourage no change and offer only validation for peoples sins.
Nonsense.
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What is nonsense?
@@lonniestoute8762 All of it. You misunderstand FS. It was only issued to enable homos to receive a blessing as a couple. This is the opposite of calling them to holiness.
those who don't believe will always encourage defeat
What's the intro song name ?
We are transient.....
It is wrong to justify sinful behaviour but it is also wrong to condemn what is permissible. The clarification to Fiducia Supplicans of January 4 again states clearly that no doctrine has been changed, that no sinful union can ever be blessed, that no blessing can seem to imitate marriage... Yes, a priest can bless an irregular couple, but not in the way of James Martin or the German bishops. For me, Pope Francis and the Vatican are still orthodox (at least in Fiducia supplicans), and those wrongfully accusing them are undermining the unity of the Church.
The fact is that a blessing has an objective reality of its own and thus cannot be redefined at will to fit a subjective intention that is contrary to the nature of a blessing.
When we bless a couple we are blessing a relationship. When that couple is engaged in a public sinful relationship and has no intention of repentance, we are blessing sin.
“God cannot send his grace upon a relationship that is directly opposed to him and cannot be ordered toward him. Sexual intercourse outside of marriage, cannot bring people closer to God and therefore cannot open itself to God's blessing.
Therefore, if this blessing were given, its only effect would be to confuse the people who receive it or who attend it. They would think that God has blessed what He cannot bless. This “pastoral” blessing would be neither pastoral nor a blessing” -Cardinal Muller
God will not be mocked.
@consecratedsoul You're making a lot of assertions here. Care to site some sources regarding blessing a couple necessarily blessing their relationship?
@consecratedsoul I always find it interesting how people feel they have speak on behalf of God. He is incapable of Judging himself so I have to do it on his behalf on issues because I know what God consider a mockery of himself more than He does
@@consecratedsoulMay I ask why in your part of the world, the divorced and remarried are blessed at the altar while others receive communion. What does that blessing signify? In my last of the world (Africa) divorced remarried catholics were not given this grace, nor polygamous converts to Catholicism nor anyone who felt they were not in a state of grace to partake in communion etc.
You could not receive communion, you sat or knelt at the pews through communion time.
You cannot give one set of irregular unions such grace and not give another set of irregular unions such grace. This is a pastoral approach not doctrinal.
Imagine denying communion to single mothers, denying communion to parents that their children have left the Catholic church (usually symbolised by the childs marriage outside the church) Denying communion to parishioners who do not meet their compulsory contributions to the church. Draconian pastoral approaches I must say that we're being implemented by some dioceses. This is clearly misguided but had good intentions. It's clear every that with law we have, that humans can choose to abuse our not abuse it.
@@kevinezema6159my dear, about the blessing you are concerned with, the Church teaches there are many types of blessings; not just one type. Many people are focused on the “blessing of sacrament” or “blessing of validation”. But there are other types of blessings.
The blessings in the FS Document is not the same as above. This blessing is for those who are beginning to realize their life needs a change to be more Christian, but they realize without God’s help they don’t have the strength make the change. This is a blessing for them to begin a conversation in life.
Thank you Brian for telling the TRUTH!! Great podcast!! 👍🙏