Mahoyo is such a beautiful piece, in this world of fantasy we get such a comforting and personal character driven story that just works so well. It's small in scale, but honestly does enough to set and build this world of Type-Moon that other works would then follow, and its cast is some of the best in the franchise, balancing entetainment and depth perfectly without sacrificing either, it's such a masterpiece and I cannot wait for the next TM work to drop.
You put it brillantly. It strays from the norm of most Type-Moon works, but in doing so creates a unique essence that's difficult to replicate. I cannot either! We have more FGO and Tsukihime stuff on the horizon for certain, but Mahoyo piques my interest in new works that are not apart of their established series. Maybe Girls' Work or a completely new IP, who knows? Only time will tell, and I am more than happy to wait for something like that!
12:00 "People are riddles. They want someone else to solve their riddle. They live life wanting someone to solve the riddle that they are. The most difficult riddle in the world."
I'm right there with you! It's not as large scale as Stay Night, or as intense and anxiety-inducing as Tsukihime, but just intimate with it's characters and atmosphere. Would love to see Nasu write more stuff like this!
I finished the MahoYo main story on New Years Eve and I have to say it's really Nasu's best work by far. For me at least. It's a simple story but carried by great characters. Aoko is my favorite Type Moon heroine and MC now. Alice and Shizuki are great deutergonists. Meanwhile Touko and Beo did a good job as antagonists. I'm very interested to see how the story of Soujuurou-kun and the two witches will continue ^^
I'm right with you! All of the characters are phenomenal and fulfill their roles to perfection. Hopefully we will see those sequels in the next few years!
It has been months since I finished this novel and still I cannot forget about it, so I often come back to its world and characters. I really hope the movie goes well, because this story deserves love. Fortunately, the news of the Steam release are great (though I hope they fix some of the texts issues I encountered, specially in the last chapters where certain sentences had a "/" at the beginning for no reason). Great video btw.
Same here. Every so often I listen to the OST and I'm thrust back into the emotions of reading it for the first time. It has an atmosphere that is just as impactful as it is comforting. Depending on how many movies they decide to do, it could go one way or the other, but like you, I'm remaining hopeful! the Steam release was really surprising to hear about, fixing those small typos would make it a lot better. Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
an absolute masterpiece of a story! with the characters conflicts there struggles and of course the comedy everything was so beautifully done I also want of the characters and their journey together, but for now this will do. Witch on the Holy Night will always have a place in my heart❤
Mine too! It would be amazing to get more Mahoyo content, the characterization and dynamic of the cast, together and indivdually is too good to not show up again.
My pleasure! Mahoyo is a story filled with passion and being able to showcase that in anyway makes me more than happy to. Seeing the support for Mahoyo has had so far is amazing! Thank you!
mahoyo is nice. havent really finished it, but i like their character and words that connect and entertain me in their way. this work is amazing and as i get older maybe ill find more beautiful subtleties that i have not noticed in this. also very cool video !
It only gets better as it goes on! Mahoyo is one of those stories that can easily be read again and again, as you come to better understand the characters and how they interact with amongst themselves and the world. I hope you enjoy the rest! Thank you!
Going to guess the shi > si is something that the official Japanese company wanted they did the same thing with rewrite Shizuru-> sizuru since that's how that's officially spelled in Japanese despite it making more sense to be the former to English speakers
@@NeNeiSan It's always worrying when they adapt a whole VN into a single movie. Too many scenes and too little screen time. Let's just hope it can stand proudly on its own legs as a movie and not just as an adaptation.
That's what I'm most concerned about. I feel like they would be able to fit all the major key points into 1 movie, but doing so will take away the essence of the story and characters. The slow SOL is a major part so I hope they don't scrap it in favor of a face-paced plot. I don't think they've confirmed how many they are making or how long they will be, so I'm hoping for the best!
The localization is weird in many places as it falls at worst to losing important delicate context to the characters (or things related to them) and at best its just weird editing with typos. Still, its arguably better then most fan translations that is and will exist probably (so far i liked old BL one at most out of them but its just me). Good one on this seemingly in-house team. Now waiting for TsukiRe English localization as Nasu said he wanted to do.
Yeah, I saw a few posts pointing out the contextual errors in the translation, which is in someways disappointing, but am still really glad with what we did get. Having an official TsukiRe translation for Other Side of Red Garden would be a dream come true! Tsukihimates is almost finished with their TL which is really exciting.
So the Sequel will be about Alice and what it means to be a Witch. And if Souju full arc will be not finished in the sequel, then planned Threequel will wrap this brilliant story very beautifully however much it could be bittersweet, seeing by lore hints here and there.
Since this part of the story focused on Aoko's struggle between her role as mage and her life as a human, having the following two play out how you described is so interesting, and would complete a beatiful thematic trilogy! Though it does have an open-ended "completeness" to it, there are many ways these characters and their lives could be expanded. That whole thing with Shizuki's bandages is a total mystery so far and love to get more details about it. Hopefully we get an announcement for it within the decade! Cannot wait for that day!
Does it have any connection to Fate stay night and tsukihime or would you say it is mostly separate since I do they take place in the same universe. Also would you recommend this as a good starting point for nasu verse among visual novels or would you say it is better to read fate stay night or Tsukihime first then they have gotten their remake outs in official release?
I would say this is one of the better starting point for anyone getting into Nasu's works! This was originally going to be Nasu's first ever published novel back in the 90s--- of course revised and changed over time ---and you can tell with how it so succintly establishes the world and its major characters. Each of Nasu's works can be read standalone, and though a lot of worldbuilding ideas and even some characters are shared between these works to varying degrees, your understanding won't be majorly affected. You can really go in whatever order that interests you, but if you don't really mind and just want to see what this world has to offer this is the order of the major entries I recommend to understand as much references upon your first viewing of these entries: Witch on The Holy Night - Kara No Kyoukai: Garden of Sinners - Tsukihime - Fate/Stay Night Again they aren't majorly connected, but Nasu likes to make callbacks quite often and allows you to get a sense of progression of a few shared characters. Nothing major, but something you can appreciate on the side!
@@NeNeiSan It won’t entirely be my first intro to fate with having watched fate zero and unlimited blade works anime. Either way I was wondering if there is a specific order I should read the routes for fate stay night plan to read it in the future then the remakes come out.
@@axelpettersson1482 Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, then Heaven's Feel is the intended route order you don't want to stray from! The original game had the routes locked, meaning you could only go through a route if you beat the previous one. That may be the case for the re-release too, but keep that order in mind just in case they make any changes!
havent read this, but already a fan of the nasuverse, i thought mage family's can only have one heir, which is why sakura was given to the motous in fate. why are aoko and touko both heirs? are they a special case
This is actually really interesting because I have had an idea about a very similar storing that could take place in the nasuverse my stories idea is about a normal person who somehow discovered that magecraft exist and then decides to dedicate their life to learn magecraft despite the fact they are not a mage and do not come from a mage family. So I'm surprised that such a similar story actually exist in the nasuverse.
That is pretty interesting! While Soujyuro does become aware of magecraft, he doesn't learn any of it. So that does leave open another story where it follows that very premise. That's honestly something I would love to see, as the process of learnring magecraft isn't touched upon all that often, especially from someone completely unaware of the mystery side of the world discovering it all on their own.
You can watch it! Aside from establishing the premise, some of the characters, and talking about the themes the VN covers, I don't spoil any plot points or twists.
![Witch of the Holy Night | Alice Kuonji [Extended]](/img/n.gif)
Mahoyo is such a beautiful piece, in this world of fantasy we get such a comforting and personal character driven story that just works so well. It's small in scale, but honestly does enough to set and build this world of Type-Moon that other works would then follow, and its cast is some of the best in the franchise, balancing entetainment and depth perfectly without sacrificing either, it's such a masterpiece and I cannot wait for the next TM work to drop.
You put it brillantly. It strays from the norm of most Type-Moon works, but in doing so creates a unique essence that's difficult to replicate.
I cannot either! We have more FGO and Tsukihime stuff on the horizon for certain, but Mahoyo piques my interest in new works that are not apart of their established series.
Maybe Girls' Work or a completely new IP, who knows? Only time will tell, and I am more than happy to wait for something like that!
Well said!
12:00 "People are riddles. They want someone else to solve their riddle. They live life wanting someone to solve the riddle that they are. The most difficult riddle in the world."
Just finished Mahoyo yesterday and man. What a ride it was.
It really is something special
I'm really into this now.
My peak type-moon and comfort series. MahoYo is incredibly underappreciated given that people only discuss how great other TM works are.
I'm right there with you! It's not as large scale as Stay Night, or as intense and anxiety-inducing as Tsukihime, but just intimate with it's characters and atmosphere. Would love to see Nasu write more stuff like this!
Its fun how the Town (and Modernization) is also like on of the main antagonists of the story.
That's true too, haha!
I finished the MahoYo main story on New Years Eve and I have to say it's really Nasu's best work by far. For me at least. It's a simple story but carried by great characters. Aoko is my favorite Type Moon heroine and MC now. Alice and Shizuki are great deutergonists. Meanwhile Touko and Beo did a good job as antagonists. I'm very interested to see how the story of Soujuurou-kun and the two witches will continue ^^
I'm right with you! All of the characters are phenomenal and fulfill their roles to perfection. Hopefully we will see those sequels in the next few years!
@@NeNeiSan For sure!
It has been months since I finished this novel and still I cannot forget about it, so I often come back to its world and characters. I really hope the movie goes well, because this story deserves love. Fortunately, the news of the Steam release are great (though I hope they fix some of the texts issues I encountered, specially in the last chapters where certain sentences had a "/" at the beginning for no reason). Great video btw.
Same here. Every so often I listen to the OST and I'm thrust back into the emotions of reading it for the first time. It has an atmosphere that is just as impactful as it is comforting. Depending on how many movies they decide to do, it could go one way or the other, but like you, I'm remaining hopeful! the Steam release was really surprising to hear about, fixing those small typos would make it a lot better.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I don’t know, even when the world is ending Nasu stops for a bit slice of life.
an absolute masterpiece of a story! with the characters conflicts there struggles and of course the comedy everything was so beautifully done I also want of the characters and their journey together, but for now this will do.
Witch on the Holy Night will always have a place in my heart❤
Mine too! It would be amazing to get more Mahoyo content, the characterization and dynamic of the cast, together and indivdually is too good to not show up again.
I am really glad we got such a beautiful video about Mahou already, thanks for your hard work my dude :)
My pleasure! Mahoyo is a story filled with passion and being able to showcase that in anyway makes me more than happy to. Seeing the support for Mahoyo has had so far is amazing!
Thank you!
mahoyo is nice. havent really finished it, but i like their character and words that connect and entertain me in their way. this work is amazing and as i get older maybe ill find more beautiful subtleties that i have not noticed in this.
also very cool video !
It only gets better as it goes on! Mahoyo is one of those stories that can easily be read again and again, as you come to better understand the characters and how they interact with amongst themselves and the world. I hope you enjoy the rest!
Thank you!
very thoughtful and good video, mahoyo was such a good read
Thank you! It has it's own unique magic that is so engrossing!
I'm glad you did a video on this one, I'm like 10 hrs in and loving it so far
Once I reached the end, I knew I had to!
I hope you enjoy the rest, it only gets better!
Going to guess the shi > si is something that the official Japanese company wanted they did the same thing with rewrite Shizuru-> sizuru since that's how that's officially spelled in Japanese despite it making more sense to be the former to English speakers
That makes sense. It really threw me off at first given I've never see it translated like that before, haha!
You put my thoughts to word very well
Great script and editing as always
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing work btw, Nei, keep this up!
Thank you so much, I appreciate it! I will continue doing my best!
Literally I can't wait for the movie tbh
Same here! I'm curious as to how they will go about adapting it.
@@NeNeiSan It's always worrying when they adapt a whole VN into a single movie. Too many scenes and too little screen time. Let's just hope it can stand proudly on its own legs as a movie and not just as an adaptation.
That's what I'm most concerned about. I feel like they would be able to fit all the major key points into 1 movie, but doing so will take away the essence of the story and characters. The slow SOL is a major part so I hope they don't scrap it in favor of a face-paced plot. I don't think they've confirmed how many they are making or how long they will be, so I'm hoping for the best!
The localization is weird in many places as it falls at worst to losing important delicate context to the characters (or things related to them) and at best its just weird editing with typos. Still, its arguably better then most fan translations that is and will exist probably (so far i liked old BL one at most out of them but its just me). Good one on this seemingly in-house team. Now waiting for TsukiRe English localization as Nasu said he wanted to do.
Yeah, I saw a few posts pointing out the contextual errors in the translation, which is in someways disappointing, but am still really glad with what we did get. Having an official TsukiRe translation for Other Side of Red Garden would be a dream come true! Tsukihimates is almost finished with their TL which is really exciting.
@@NeNeiSan Yeah, can't wait for full TL patch by Tsukihimates.
So the Sequel will be about Alice and what it means to be a Witch. And if Souju full arc will be not finished in the sequel, then planned Threequel will wrap this brilliant story very beautifully however much it could be bittersweet, seeing by lore hints here and there.
Since this part of the story focused on Aoko's struggle between her role as mage and her life as a human, having the following two play out how you described is so interesting, and would complete a beatiful thematic trilogy!
Though it does have an open-ended "completeness" to it, there are many ways these characters and their lives could be expanded.
That whole thing with Shizuki's bandages is a total mystery so far and love to get more details about it. Hopefully we get an announcement for it within the decade! Cannot wait for that day!
The best.
I knew you will love it, Nei.
Does it have any connection to Fate stay night and tsukihime or would you say it is mostly separate since I do they take place in the same universe. Also would you recommend this as a good starting point for nasu verse among visual novels or would you say it is better to read fate stay night or Tsukihime first then they have gotten their remake outs in official release?
I would say this is one of the better starting point for anyone getting into Nasu's works! This was originally going to be Nasu's first ever published novel back in the 90s--- of course revised and changed over time ---and you can tell with how it so succintly establishes the world and its major characters.
Each of Nasu's works can be read standalone, and though a lot of worldbuilding ideas and even some characters are shared between these works to varying degrees, your understanding won't be majorly affected.
You can really go in whatever order that interests you, but if you don't really mind and just want to see what this world has to offer this is the order of the major entries I recommend to understand as much references upon your first viewing of these entries:
Witch on The Holy Night - Kara No Kyoukai: Garden of Sinners - Tsukihime - Fate/Stay Night
Again they aren't majorly connected, but Nasu likes to make callbacks quite often and allows you to get a sense of progression of a few shared characters. Nothing major, but something you can appreciate on the side!
@@NeNeiSan It won’t entirely be my first intro to fate with having watched fate zero and unlimited blade works anime.
Either way I was wondering if there is a specific order I should read the routes for fate stay night plan to read it in the future then the remakes come out.
@@axelpettersson1482 Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, then Heaven's Feel is the intended route order you don't want to stray from!
The original game had the routes locked, meaning you could only go through a route if you beat the previous one. That may be the case for the re-release too, but keep that order in mind just in case they make any changes!
@@NeNeiSanIt is me I was also wondering then you rate is there a common route or do you read the routes in order?
@@axelpettersson3126 the first 3 or so days are the common route, but are some choices will be locked until you beat the previous route!
I need a switch just to play this game man
If you have a PC, emulation is always an option.
@@NeNeiSan riiight i forgot i had a emulator, that went completely over my head
How spoiler based is the video should I read the VN before the video or can I watch the video first?
You can watch it! I don't give away any major spoils about the plot or characters arcs, and more so establish how its themes and characters line up!
havent read this, but already a fan of the nasuverse, i thought mage family's can only have one heir, which is why sakura was given to the motous in fate. why are aoko and touko both heirs? are they a special case
That is true, even here. I can't really say anything more as that point is a huge spoiler that is an important part ot both of their character arcs!
This is actually really interesting because I have had an idea about a very similar storing that could take place in the nasuverse my stories idea is about a normal person who somehow discovered that magecraft exist and then decides to dedicate their life to learn magecraft despite the fact they are not a mage and do not come from a mage family. So I'm surprised that such a similar story actually exist in the nasuverse.
That is pretty interesting! While Soujyuro does become aware of magecraft, he doesn't learn any of it. So that does leave open another story where it follows that very premise. That's honestly something I would love to see, as the process of learnring magecraft isn't touched upon all that often, especially from someone completely unaware of the mystery side of the world discovering it all on their own.
So like Shinji? Huh
Can I watch it without playing or is there spoilers?
You can watch it! Aside from establishing the premise, some of the characters, and talking about the themes the VN covers, I don't spoil any plot points or twists.