Well I shot both these bows at Adam's Archery in Michigan just a few days ago. I made my decision pretty quickly. I thought the Traverse beat the Helix hands down. Biggest difference for me was vibration. The Traverse was completely dead in hand. The Helix had significant vibration. Secondly was the back wall, the Traverse's back wall was rock solid the Helix was just a tad spongey. and thirdly which surprised me the most especially because of what this video said in the comparison was the grip. The traverse's grip was perfect for my hand the Helix grip didn't really let me bury my thumb all the way up in there like the Traverse. I took 8 shots with each bow alternating 1 for 1 on each shot. I walked out of there with the Traverse.
Zachary Page Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. You made a great choice. The traverse is a great bow and I know you’ll absolutely love it.
You give very articulate reviews and I just bought a Mathews Traverse today. The Hoyt Helix Ultra wasn’t in stock at Dead On Archery but I really loved the Traverse. I should see some great service from this bow
Good stuff but I would like if you talked about each cam style and yoke twisting or shimming involved to set up and adjustability for resale. Number of strings for each and cost. Thanks
Wish you could of included the Bowtech Reckoning in this review. These are the three bows I’m trying to decide between. Great review, thanks for the breakdown.
@@brandonsnell6744 IMO, the Reckoning is the wave of the future. It's soooo customizable, so stable, and on the comfort setting it may be 10fps slower than these bows but it has a perfect draw-cycle. As soon as I found out about the Reckoning I put off buying a bow until I could try it. I shot everything with a 33-35" ATA and the Reckoning was, by far, my favorite.
Elk Calling Academy Yep, that’s a good choice. The Vertix was too short for my tastes but I think it was still a better bow than the VXR 31.5 and way better than the 28.
What release are you using/recommend? My release is the weak spot in my setup. Currently running the $25 local archery shop special. Thanks for the content!
JUST SAMSON both bows tune easily. The Mathews uses Top Hats while the Hoyt is done with Yoke tuning. Each has advantages. The Yoke allows you to be more precise but you to retune whenever you change out your strings. The Top Hats don’t require you to re-tune after replacing strings.
Brett Bandlow thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. The Traverse is an impressive bow and I’m sure you’ll be happy with it.
After shooting one I custom ordered a Traverse and should have it very soon. I am pumped up to say the least. I haven't heard anyone say a bad word about this bow. Can't wait to tune mine in and take it hunting this season!
@Rusty Shackleford That's awesome. I should be getting mine any day. Season is open here in Missouri but I'll wait until mid October for a little cooler weather. But just a couple weeks away now so I need to get to shooting! I'm trying to decide what arrows to go with. I've always shot Goldtip after shooting carbon express but now need just a slightly heavier arrow.
@@brettb4452 try gold tip kinetic piece platinum. I use 250 spine as I don't cut mine because of my draw length. You could use 300 spine if you have a draw length under 30". Just my two cents.
Hi! Great review!! I want to replace my old 2001 Hoyt Intec with Carbonite limbs 40inc axle-to-axle… I hesitate between Hoyt Helix, Hoyt Helix Ultra, Mathews Vertix and Mathews Traverse !! What do you think? I doesn't shoot in the last 10 years lol
iGotClutch4 for me, I preferred the Mathews over any of the bows I shot this year. Extremely smooth, Dead in the front hand and just plain fun to shoot. I always feel people to go shoot several different bows and let the bow choose you. Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment.
@@ElkCallingAcademy I'm starting to stray now. I'm hoping to shoot a Bowtech Reckoning.. I like a longer bow. It's comical to me when I see reviews that say a bow (33" or longer)may not be very suitable for hunting out of a tree stand. What a hoot! How far we have come!
Luis Sanchez I haven’t shot the Reckoning and it’s on my list of bows I still want to shoot along with the PSE Evoke. So many bows, so many choices. Lol
Great review. I knew they'd be very similar. I think the Helix Ultra is a better buy than the RX3 ultra and the Traverse is the better buy than the Vertix. Both of these bows are top notch. I run the 80 percent mods on my Helix ultra. Where you running them or the 85 percent mods?
Here are some facts as to why people like the Traverse better. The Traverse is a bit easier to draw. It's longer which makes it more forgiving. Also it has more brace height which helps in forgiveness. There's a reason target archers don't use 30 inch bows with short brace heights. Because they aren't as forgiving/accurate.. It's just as quiet and shock free. So tell me how the Vertix is so much better? Or is that just your opinion?
If you're going through 2 strings a year on a hunting bow you might want to find a new string builder. Yeah I know about long stabilizers. I shoot 5 spot and 3D archery quite often. But I guess you know so much and the Traverse is a POS.
@Rusty Shackleford sooo, you don't fine tune your bows at distance? 20yd windage is plenty good huh? The archer is always a factor but some bows are just more accurate and it will show at distance with a random poll of archers. I don't agree with you statement. Please don't take offense.
I don’t understand how measuring the draw length to the Berger hole on these two different branded bows shows they are set up the same? The Berger hole will not sit in the same place from one manufacture to the next. You need to use the industry standard to measure draw length between any bow and especially between different manufactures. The way to measure draw length is from the back of the grip in the deepest part of the throat to the nocking point at full draw, then add 1.75” to that measurement....I would be curious to see how using the the correct method to measure draw would affect how you set these bows up and the speed comparison.
Gritty Grizzly the idea to measure to the Berger was the idea of someone that actually worked for Hoyt up until two weeks ago and is an avid Hoyt shooter. We went back and looked at the picture and there is only an 1/8 - 3/16 difference between the two bows on the draw length. From now on I am going to put the bows in a Hooter Shooter with the same draw arrow and do the industry standard. With each video I am learning more and more about how to make these videos better. As always, I appreciate the input.
I think this would be an awesome addition to the test. Some of my favorite tests out there are the ones you do. Both of these bows are outstanding but I have owned and played with both quite a bit, and the Mathews always feels longer when set to the same mod setting (29 on both).
I ended up with the traverse blacked out couldn't be happier the Hoyt was 1200 at my shop and the Mathews 1000 Hoyt wasn't 200 dollars better to me or did I think it was a better bow still nice though and prefer there grips more but Mathews are nicer in my opinion and have been since the halon series
I just did the opposite of you! The Hoyt was only 1050 but both were very nice. I still don’t know for sure if I made right choice haha. The Mathews felt amazing upon release
Well I shot both these bows at Adam's Archery in Michigan just a few days ago. I made my decision pretty quickly. I thought the Traverse beat the Helix hands down. Biggest difference for me was vibration. The Traverse was completely dead in hand. The Helix had significant vibration. Secondly was the back wall, the Traverse's back wall was rock solid the Helix was just a tad spongey. and thirdly which surprised me the most especially because of what this video said in the comparison was the grip. The traverse's grip was perfect for my hand the Helix grip didn't really let me bury my thumb all the way up in there like the Traverse. I took 8 shots with each bow alternating 1 for 1 on each shot. I walked out of there with the Traverse.
Zachary Page Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. You made a great choice. The traverse is a great bow and I know you’ll absolutely love it.
You give very articulate reviews and I just bought a Mathews Traverse today. The Hoyt Helix Ultra wasn’t in stock at Dead On Archery but I really loved the Traverse. I should see some great service from this bow
Thank you. Enjoy your new bow
That was an excellent well detailed video sir. Thanks for taking all the time to really throw all the comparison details out there for us.
down stream thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Great video! I've always liked the dry fire testing Hoyt does.
Bruce Barthalow thank you.
Love the white background. We can clearly see the shape of the bows during the draw and shot. Nice review sir. Thank you.
dude perfecto thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment
dude perfecto thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment
Other than the way you measured the draw length I thought you did a very good detail review on these two bows.
Gritty Grizzly thank you
Another great review, Traverse is for sure my pick. Hands down!!!!!!!
Brian Mcfaddin thank you
Good stuff but I would like if you talked about each cam style and yoke twisting or shimming involved to set up and adjustability for resale. Number of strings for each and cost.
Thanks
Luis Sanchez Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. I will add those points for future videos appreciate it
Wish you could of included the Bowtech Reckoning in this review. These are the three bows I’m trying to decide between. Great review, thanks for the breakdown.
Brandon Snell thank you. I’ve reviewed a couple of the Bowtechs but haven’t done the Reckoning. I’ll try and get a review of that one done.
I think the Reckoning spec wise should compare very similar. Thanks again for the great reviews, keep up the good work.
@@brandonsnell6744Snell the specs are very similar to these two. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
@@brandonsnell6744 IMO, the Reckoning is the wave of the future. It's soooo customizable, so stable, and on the comfort setting it may be 10fps slower than these bows but it has a perfect draw-cycle. As soon as I found out about the Reckoning I put off buying a bow until I could try it. I shot everything with a 33-35" ATA and the Reckoning was, by far, my favorite.
TheIngoBeck thanks for the info! I’m going to go shoot one this weekend. Can’t wait!
Great review. It’s all about the VXR now but after shooting these bows I still ordered the Traverse. Real nice do it all bow.
Dre Sted thank you. I shot the 2020 line up and bought the Vertix as I wanted a little shorter axle to axle this year.
Elk Calling Academy
Yep, that’s a good choice. The Vertix was too short for my tastes but I think it was still a better bow than the VXR 31.5 and way better than the 28.
Great content you have got there.
compoundbowpro thank you
What release are you using/recommend? My release is the weak spot in my setup. Currently running the $25 local archery shop special. Thanks for the content!
Logan Hallman this release is the Stan Perfex and it’s a great release that is completely customizable
Try the wise guy
Hi, great vid. What about ease of tuning for both bows?
JUST SAMSON both bows tune easily. The Mathews uses Top Hats while the Hoyt is done with Yoke tuning. Each has advantages. The Yoke allows you to be more precise but you to retune whenever you change out your strings. The Top Hats don’t require you to re-tune after replacing strings.
Great video
Gary Miller thank you
Excellent video would there be any possibility of a Mathews vertix vs hoyt helix video?
SFbear17 I did the Ultra in a previous video. I’ll see if I can squeeze in the Vertix vs the Helix video.
I appreciate it I'm actually watching that video now and that's what spurred the idea love the content keep up the awesome work!
SFbear17 thank you
That's it, I'm ordering a new traverse! I was between it and the elite ritual 33. Going traverse.
Brett Bandlow thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment. The Traverse is an impressive bow and I’m sure you’ll be happy with it.
After shooting one I custom ordered a Traverse and should have it very soon. I am pumped up to say the least. I haven't heard anyone say a bad word about this bow. Can't wait to tune mine in and take it hunting this season!
@Rusty Shackleford That's awesome. I should be getting mine any day. Season is open here in Missouri but I'll wait until mid October for a little cooler weather. But just a couple weeks away now so I need to get to shooting! I'm trying to decide what arrows to go with. I've always shot Goldtip after shooting carbon express but now need just a slightly heavier arrow.
@Rusty Shackleford Any luck as of yet? I just got the traverse and I'm hoping for some late season action.
@@brettb4452 try gold tip kinetic piece platinum. I use 250 spine as I don't cut mine because of my draw length. You could use 300 spine if you have a draw length under 30". Just my two cents.
Hi! Great review!! I want to replace my old 2001 Hoyt Intec with Carbonite limbs 40inc axle-to-axle… I hesitate between Hoyt Helix, Hoyt Helix Ultra, Mathews Vertix and Mathews Traverse !! What do you think? I doesn't shoot in the last 10 years lol
iGotClutch4 for me, I preferred the Mathews over any of the bows I shot this year. Extremely smooth, Dead in the front hand and just plain fun to shoot. I always feel people to go shoot several different bows and let the bow choose you. Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and leave a comment.
Elk Calling Academy Wow that was quick response! You are right, I will go try the bows in store. Thank you!
iGotClutch4 haha! I just happened to have my phone sitting next to me and was notified of your comment.
Can you do Prime Ct5 vs Traverse?
Thanks in advance.
Luis Sanchez I’ve shot both of them separately but not head to head. I’ll see if I can put a video together.
@@ElkCallingAcademy I'm starting to stray now.
I'm hoping to shoot a Bowtech Reckoning.. I like a longer bow.
It's comical to me when I see reviews that say a bow (33" or longer)may not be very suitable for hunting out of a tree stand. What a hoot! How far we have come!
Luis Sanchez I haven’t shot the Reckoning and it’s on my list of bows I still want to shoot along with the PSE Evoke. So many bows, so many choices. Lol
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Gritty Grizzly thank you. Greatly appreciate that.
Great review. I knew they'd be very similar. I think the Helix Ultra is a better buy than the RX3 ultra and the Traverse is the better buy than the Vertix. Both of these bows are top notch. I run the 80 percent mods on my Helix ultra. Where you running them or the 85 percent mods?
Would also be cool to see the Elite Ritual 35 compared to these two.
Lee Lathrop thank you. These had the 85% and I agree with you about the Helix being a better but than the RX3.
Here are some facts as to why people like the Traverse better. The Traverse is a bit easier to draw. It's longer which makes it more forgiving. Also it has more brace height which helps in forgiveness. There's a reason target archers don't use 30 inch bows with short brace heights. Because they aren't as forgiving/accurate.. It's just as quiet and shock free. So tell me how the Vertix is so much better? Or is that just your opinion?
Well no crap it's faster than the Traverse. It has a shorter brace height and a stiffer draw.
If you're going through 2 strings a year on a hunting bow you might want to find a new string builder. Yeah I know about long stabilizers. I shoot 5 spot and 3D archery quite often. But I guess you know so much and the Traverse is a POS.
Did you have a 2 or 3 cam on the hoyt
Hoytshooter 1990 #2 cam and I made sure to announce that in the video.
Mathews still would be faster by 3 to 4 fps
None of this shows which bow shoots and groups better. Gotta shoot distance
kidbowjb thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
@Rusty Shackleford sooo, you don't fine tune your bows at distance? 20yd windage is plenty good huh?
The archer is always a factor but some bows are just more accurate and it will show at distance with a random poll of archers.
I don't agree with you statement. Please don't take offense.
How about evoke 35 vs helix ultra ?
Zbych Zbychowski I need to shoot the new PSE lineup.
I don’t understand how measuring the draw length to the Berger hole on these two different branded bows shows they are set up the same? The Berger hole will not sit in the same place from one manufacture to the next. You need to use the industry standard to measure draw length between any bow and especially between different manufactures. The way to measure draw length is from the back of the grip in the deepest part of the throat to the nocking point at full draw, then add 1.75” to that measurement....I would be curious to see how using the the correct method to measure draw would affect how you set these bows up and the speed comparison.
Gritty Grizzly the idea to measure to the Berger was the idea of someone that actually worked for Hoyt up until two weeks ago and is an avid Hoyt shooter. We went back and looked at the picture and there is only an 1/8 - 3/16 difference between the two bows on the draw length. From now on I am going to put the bows in a Hooter Shooter with the same draw arrow and do the industry standard. With each video I am learning more and more about how to make these videos better. As always, I appreciate the input.
I think this would be an awesome addition to the test. Some of my favorite tests out there are the ones you do. Both of these bows are outstanding but I have owned and played with both quite a bit, and the Mathews always feels longer when set to the same mod setting (29 on both).
Helix is 4,9 on the scale!!!!!! Use it !!!!!! Its to dificult????? Under dog in this test is evoke 35.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
I ended up with the traverse blacked out couldn't be happier the Hoyt was 1200 at my shop and the Mathews 1000 Hoyt wasn't 200 dollars better to me or did I think it was a better bow still nice though and prefer there grips more but Mathews are nicer in my opinion and have been since the halon series
The Traverse is a great bow.
I just did the opposite of you! The Hoyt was only 1050 but both were very nice. I still don’t know for sure if I made right choice haha. The Mathews felt amazing upon release
@@ElkCallingAcademy I just bought two pristine used. My favorite bow. My son got one.
Very easy pick, Mathews more dead in the hand, more silent, and no vibration. Mathews 6 fps faster.
If you shot better with the Hoyt, would you choose it over the Mathews?
Mathews the best!!!only mathews!!!😍😍😍